WEBVTT - Chicago Cubs team preview w/Mooney

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of like a spring training meg extension. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any any real possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that happening. Yeah, we got Patrick Mooney on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go over some Cubs storylines. You know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go right into it and then cutting a few things

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<v Speaker 2>on the back end. AJ. I just want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the simplest possible terms what I'm leaving told me a

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<v Speaker 2>few times now, what do you think of the Cubs

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<v Speaker 2>off season?

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<v Speaker 3>Aj?

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<v Speaker 2>Not bad?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh?

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<v Speaker 4>Better than this team?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that teams that bird's hibernating. It's not a way.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I saw my my less crop seen babblehead,

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<v Speaker 4>right because oh wow groover right. Uh but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 4>why it sits there every day, because they're until they're

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<v Speaker 4>sleeping with less or I p less love you. But uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the Cubs have had a good off season. I have

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<v Speaker 4>to give them credit. As much as that pains me

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<v Speaker 4>to say, I think they've had a pretty decent offseason.

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<v Speaker 4>I love to get one more nice piece, and whoever

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<v Speaker 4>that is, I don't know. It's not my money. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the uh, you know, the people that own the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 4>And I hate to say their names, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to uh, but they've had a good offseason. They've

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<v Speaker 4>had a better off season than probably anybody except maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the Dodgers and the Aches and the Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they're I would also say that off

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<v Speaker 1>season is not done yet. I mean we still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my colleagues scided if Sharma Ke and Rosenthal we still

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing the Cubs are active. We don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that will be. There's a big difference between sort

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<v Speaker 1>of hanging around and talking to Scott Boris about Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Bregman versus actually like going out and doing it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where the the Astros have had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an advantage in a way that the Cubs don't,

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<v Speaker 1>because Tom Ricketts is not that type of owner who's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna call up Scott Boris and.

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<v Speaker 3>Close a deal here.

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<v Speaker 1>But whether it's another pitcher, I think until Bregman signs elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs are gonna be involved. And I think by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they get to Mesa, it could the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been pretty good, could look a lot different

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<v Speaker 1>by that point too.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, So before we dive into twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>storylines and things that we know, for certain, and what's

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<v Speaker 2>on the roster. Let's cover Bregman really quickly. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think where are we at with the Cubs one inning?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they at with Bregman and the negotiations? And do

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<v Speaker 2>you think that it's real? I know someone was floating

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<v Speaker 2>out a four hundred, but and if it has opt outs,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's enticing for him over a six I think

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<v Speaker 2>one point fifty six from the Astros. But do you

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<v Speaker 2>think this is serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's definitely serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just a matter of how serious and

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<v Speaker 1>what the appetite is to get something, don't hear?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is the way the Cubs are sort

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<v Speaker 3>of set up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Jed Hoyer does not have an unlimited budget,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has managed it in a way that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs kind of in the conversation for any of

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<v Speaker 1>these you know guys who maybe are a little disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>or frustrated with kind of where how their market has developed.

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<v Speaker 1>And also they built up, you know, pretty substantial amount

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<v Speaker 1>of young talent to where you know, if teams are

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<v Speaker 1>looking to make moves late, they are certainly in those

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<v Speaker 1>conversations here as well. And I think what we've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of learned over the years here as the Cubs have

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<v Speaker 1>transitioned away from THEO and overhauled their front office, it

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<v Speaker 1>is really all about.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever the computer tells them to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, they certainly have preferences and they dictate their own strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really all about whatever deal fits in their system.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see if Bregman gets to kind of get

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<v Speaker 1>falls to their level.

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, well, they love those former astros, they

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<v Speaker 2>really do. We'll get into that, right Tucker, Presley, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hit the storylines. We've got four storylines that we

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<v Speaker 2>promised will hit. Maybe a bonus question if we have time,

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<v Speaker 2>can Kyle K Tucker vault the Cubs back into the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 2>And can they convince him to stay long term? This

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<v Speaker 2>is year two of Craig Counsel super rich manager disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>season in year one of his expedition with the Cubs,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously ditching the hometown team, getting the contract, getting what

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<v Speaker 2>he was worth, but so far it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we thinking with Matt Shaw? Can he make

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<v Speaker 2>an impact starting on day one? And is patients wearing

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<v Speaker 2>thin with the front office? This is kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>make or break do they have to make the playoffs

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<v Speaker 2>for this current front office to be set up the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start at the top, because Kyle Tucker is a really,

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<v Speaker 2>really strong player. You can call him a superstar. Many do,

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<v Speaker 2>right based on the seasons he's put together consistently and

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<v Speaker 2>what he was on pace for last year before he

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<v Speaker 2>got hurt. What do you think of this addition Tucker

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<v Speaker 2>in and Bellinger out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy they absolutely needed to get. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubs have been an eighty three win team, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a stable, conservative organization, like just good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>play meaningful games in September, not good enough to advance

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<v Speaker 1>and win in October. And I think if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the contours of those previous seasons, it was they

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<v Speaker 1>needed a star. They needed someone to step up and

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<v Speaker 1>hit that three run homer to kind of win a

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<v Speaker 1>series on the road, to make sure that like four

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<v Speaker 1>game losing streak doesn't turn into like a three week spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Tucker is one of the best all

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<v Speaker 3>round players in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the second point of this will be really

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating to watch, like how is he gonna function as

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the man in Wrigleyville. He didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that in Houston, And at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think either side has any sort of expectations

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<v Speaker 1>about a long term deal. At this point, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation is that he will play this year out.

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<v Speaker 1>The Cubs will have a year to sort of lay

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<v Speaker 1>the groundwork and recruit him. But in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>a spring training Meg extension, I don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>any real possibility of that happening.

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<v Speaker 5>To use one of Count's favorite words last year that

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<v Speaker 5>was repeated ever once in a while, is this season

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<v Speaker 5>going to be daunting for Craig counsel or is the

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<v Speaker 5>second season of him moving into an organization that now

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<v Speaker 5>he gets more of his own fingerprint on and kind

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<v Speaker 5>of the processes of like I want these types of

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<v Speaker 5>guys to come up and everybody playing under me. Is

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<v Speaker 5>there going to be something new in year two?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a great get you guys had of

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<v Speaker 1>Pat Murphy acknowledging that a council wouldn't call it trolling

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<v Speaker 1>the Brewers, but it was definitely a specific word choice

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<v Speaker 1>of saying that the Brewers are this daunting challenge when

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<v Speaker 1>on undaunted, is this kind of very personal motivational slogan

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<v Speaker 1>for his.

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<v Speaker 3>Old good buddy Pat Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean this is where Council is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to really put his imprint on the team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the front office views him as part of the inner

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<v Speaker 1>circle for every major decision, So the product on the

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<v Speaker 1>field is going to be on some level a reflection

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<v Speaker 1>of his belief system and priorities. He's someone who comes

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<v Speaker 1>into the office occasionally throughout the off season. He's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on slack, he's reading reports, he's watching video. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, as you guys know, he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>most animated guy. But in terms of how this pitching

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<v Speaker 1>staff is going to be deployed, that's a huge point

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<v Speaker 1>of emphasis for Counsel. I think he was the one

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<v Speaker 1>who put pressure on the front office publicly at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of last year, during that daunting sort of monologue

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<v Speaker 1>of saying, we should be trying to build ninety win

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<v Speaker 1>teams around here, and he, you know, has certainly been

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<v Speaker 1>a voice behind the scenes trying to kind of create

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of urgency that I think you've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the moves the Cubs that made this off this winter.

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<v Speaker 4>Is one of the reasons the moves. We talked about

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<v Speaker 4>Alex pragmant sorry still have cardinal hair on my is

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<v Speaker 4>one of the One of the the reasons why is

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<v Speaker 4>because the prospects are coming. And we talked about Alex

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<v Speaker 4>Pragman earlier, and they have Matt Shaw and he's supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to possibly be there on opening day as their third basement.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what's happening with the Cubs. They finally built

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<v Speaker 4>this farm system up to a point where the prospects

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<v Speaker 4>are coming and they're gonna be used a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>help solidify this roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Well age.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, the Cubs would never overhype their prospects.

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<v Speaker 3>That never happens, but no.

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<v Speaker 5>Team does does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do think I think there's a certain logic

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<v Speaker 1>you in getting Kyle Tucker, you trade away Cam Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>another first round pick out of Florida State who had

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<v Speaker 1>crushed it at the Cape Cod League, was very much

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<v Speaker 1>a fast riser in your system. I think there's also

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<v Speaker 1>dovetails with counsels, you know, philosophy, his demeanor. He created

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<v Speaker 1>a great space for Pete Crow Armstrong to really develop

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<v Speaker 1>at the major leagues last year at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of questions about you know his

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<v Speaker 1>offensive development, whether he could kind of play under control,

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<v Speaker 1>and he told PCA, like, look, just just play great defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, focus on what you do well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Councils has sons who are right around the same age

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<v Speaker 1>as PCA, which I think gave him like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>bit of context to kind of what these players are

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<v Speaker 1>going through.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point in their careers. And so Matt Shall,

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't get Bregman would get a nice run there.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it's his job to lose at third base.

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<v Speaker 1>Cops also of Nicol Horner coming off surgery, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a question mark when he would

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<v Speaker 1>be ready, and you know Shaw could play second base

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And I think if you're looking kind of

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<v Speaker 1>over the horizon, it's this trade deadline of the Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have a lot of pieces that they can

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<v Speaker 1>move to go get whatever they need this summer, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would probably be in their best interest

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<v Speaker 1>to move some of these guys because they have a

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<v Speaker 1>cluster of roughly you know, six to seven players in

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<v Speaker 1>that top one hundred, you know, top one twenty in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry, and there's just not enough room to give

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<v Speaker 1>these guys the pathway to develop in the major So

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<v Speaker 1>I think if.

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<v Speaker 3>You give Shaw and maybe another guy comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a big part of this the last

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs era with Joe Madden. Of you have a Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarber coming up to DH during those mid season injured

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<v Speaker 1>league games, and all of a sudden, he's just hitting

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<v Speaker 1>bombs in the playoffs against your Cardinals AJ. So I'd say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if they can kind of methodically work some of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys in, I think this year will be a success

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<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that makes sense. Listen, you know where I stay

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<v Speaker 4>with the Cubs. You know how I feel about the Cubs. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's the happiest place on Earth behind Disney World, right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the Friendly Confines. But his patients growing a little

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<v Speaker 4>thin because they won. It's almost been ten years now

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<v Speaker 4>since they won. They finally did it. They broke the curse.

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<v Speaker 4>The Cubs were told we're gonna win for the next

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<v Speaker 4>ten years, and the next year after they pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>started kind of going downhill rapidly. You know, Rizzo gone,

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<v Speaker 4>Bryant gone, everyone gone. These guys are all gone, and

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<v Speaker 4>they haven't really done much much since. So is the

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<v Speaker 4>patience of the Cub fans, not that they had a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of patience to begin with, but is it wearing

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<v Speaker 4>thin with Jed Hoyer and the rest of this front

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<v Speaker 4>office to put a winning team and yes, I'll say

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<v Speaker 4>his name, Tom Ricketts and the Ricketts family to spend

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<v Speaker 4>money to put a quality team that can go out

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<v Speaker 4>and win the World Series.

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<v Speaker 1>Again with the Cubs, well, I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>time you spend in Chicago in the winter, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bleak here, man, Like if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>city sports. Yes, that's a good move to say sports

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<v Speaker 1>franchises right now, the Cubs are actually like pretty competent

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<v Speaker 1>in comparison. That doesn't mean that does not mean parades

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<v Speaker 1>down Michigan Avenue, But I do think it speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship between Tom Ricketts and Jed Hoyer. Now, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate metric is the wins and losses at the

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<v Speaker 1>major league level, when the Cubs have not made the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs since twenty twenty, and that is certainly on Jed

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<v Speaker 1>Hoyer's ledger. But I think if you look at kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stylistically, temperamentally, philosophically, like Jed Hoyer is exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>type of executive that Tom Ricketts wants running his team,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, that does mean playing, being kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the hunt every single year, and having a good base

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<v Speaker 1>of young talent, being to use a Rickets phrase, rational

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<v Speaker 1>with contracts in free agency. I mean, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a team that is spending like the Dodgers, or is

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<v Speaker 1>spending like the Mats.

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<v Speaker 3>And now that's a whole separate episode.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think within the confines of what the friendly

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<v Speaker 1>confines of what the Rickets family are trying to build,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jed Hoyer checks a lot of boxes what

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for. And I don't know this division is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Cardinals are not trying this year. Major

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<v Speaker 1>questions about the Reds and the Pirates. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>underestimate the Brewers every single year. But you gotta think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna miss a damis so like it's set up here,

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<v Speaker 1>and to kind of call back to the previous answer

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<v Speaker 1>about the trade deadline, like Jet's gonna be in position

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<v Speaker 1>to go for it and I think you will.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, last one bonus question here, how much better do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the Cubs bullpen is this year?

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<v Speaker 3>They just got.

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<v Speaker 2>Brazier, Porter Hodge looks good. Ryan Presley obviously for the

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<v Speaker 2>back end among some others that they did. Like, it

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<v Speaker 2>just starts to shift some of the guys you were

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<v Speaker 2>thinking high leverage more to mid leverage or whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call it. So should Cubs fans be excited

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<v Speaker 2>that they won't blow as many late leads?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's always going to look better on paper, and

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<v Speaker 1>then as soon as the first blown save at Wrigley Field,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone will be, you know, criticizing the manager and things

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature. But yeah, it looks better on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Presley organizes things in a way that should help.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at these past couple of seasons too,

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<v Speaker 1>what really hurt them was early in the season just

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<v Speaker 1>getting knocked out with injuries and not having those answers

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<v Speaker 1>in the ninth inning. Like if if they're just like

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<v Speaker 1>a higher floor there, more stability. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>a guy the highest paid manager in baseball, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pressing those buttons in the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think it would look better. But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see who's healthy by the time they get back

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<v Speaker 1>from Japan and like the season really starts. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you look at a pitching staff from one

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever, however, many guys are gonna have in camp,

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<v Speaker 1>like over thirty. I think it looks pretty solid on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>with like we said, some flexibility to maybe even add

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<v Speaker 1>here before camp starts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good enough. Cubs fans will take it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know Cubs fans don't at me. We didn't put

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<v Speaker 2>everyone on that list. I like Nace Pearson too. If

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<v Speaker 2>you can stay on the mound, Patrick, thanks for the time,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you got it, guys, take care.

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<v Speaker 2>All right here we are. It's a good point about

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the division.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, it's just not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's not that good. So it does help

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago because the Cubs weren't bad last year. They just

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<v Speaker 2>we're in a playoff team and it's been a problem

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<v Speaker 2>in the last couple of years. So like, can we

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<v Speaker 2>improve a little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>And will that put us counting on you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, counting on you, Tito, counting on you Ellie.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, it's just not great, right, Like Cincinnati's done some

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<v Speaker 2>things Kratz and I've liked some of the smaller moves

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<v Speaker 2>they made, but the Cubs made the bigger impact moves.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh oh my goodness, I mean what an upgrade Kyle

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<v Speaker 5>Tucker over Cody Bellinger. Even Cody Bellinger's like the reason

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<v Speaker 5>they signed him to that deal, like the year he

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<v Speaker 5>had two years ago. Kyle Tucker's still an upgrade. That

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<v Speaker 5>move alone with getting Presley, it's awesome. Would I would

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<v Speaker 5>go against that? I think I think the starting pitching

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<v Speaker 5>for the Pirates is gonna be really tough. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be tough to just bludgeon the Pirates to death

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<v Speaker 5>if you're the Cubs. But I still think the Cubs

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<v Speaker 5>are the better team. I still think the Reds win

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<v Speaker 5>this division currently currently where they're at.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we had a couple of answers about schemes

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<v Speaker 2>from earlier. Igarashi in the chat said, Yamamoto got a

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<v Speaker 2>twelve year contract. Why couldn't Skeens get a ten year offer?

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<v Speaker 4>Because different things you could, but he ain't gonna sign it,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're not going to make a ten year offer.

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<v Speaker 5>Yamamoto was a proven substance.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, Skeens. One year just not the way the salary

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<v Speaker 4>structure works, and most teams don't do that with pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, others like cr in the chat, Scott's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the pirates right. Never will they extend schemes.

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<v Speaker 5>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to see. I just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>anyone to overlook the fact that money matters. More so

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<v Speaker 2>to some owners. Bob Nutting is money, money, money, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to look at his books and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh damn, this dude makes me money.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at just go look at Look at the picture

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<v Speaker 5>Paul Skins and Bob Nutting. You tell me if that

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<v Speaker 5>is a guy who's going to extend the person on

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<v Speaker 5>his right. Bob Nutting's standing to Paul Skeins left the

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<v Speaker 5>picture they took at the Beas, And you tell me

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<v Speaker 5>if you think that guy's gonna give the other guy

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<v Speaker 5>an extension.

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<v Speaker 2>He gave other people extensions. And that guy makes some money.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the other side, you're a pitcher, get your

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<v Speaker 2>first big check. It's hard to turn down nine figures

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a young pitcher.

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<v Speaker 4>Even he won't offer him that. I don't think he'll

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<v Speaker 4>offer him that, though. I just don't snee him. If

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<v Speaker 4>he yeah, if he went something like that, if he

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<v Speaker 4>went six years one hundred and twenty six years one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred something like that, sure, but he ain't gonna do that,