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Speaker 1: Welcome to playmakers. Coming to you from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine here in Indianapolis. I'm Haley Ellwood and

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Speaker 1: joining me today is ESPN's Wendy Nicks. Wendy, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, A little sleep deprived, yeah right, but I'm

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Speaker 1: really I'm really well. It's been a good week. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What is this week like for you? You You know what it's? Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I commute. First of all, I commute when I'm at

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Speaker 1: ESPN two hours each way, so that's four that's four

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Speaker 1: hours of my day. I get back when I'm on

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Speaker 1: be away. Um. You know, it's a great week for

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Speaker 1: us because obviously we do NFL live live from here,

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Speaker 1: an unlike a normal day in the off season, we

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Speaker 1: have such great access to coaches and players and you know,

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Speaker 1: guys who are willing to stop by and talk. It

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Speaker 1: just makes it a lot more fun, you know when

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Speaker 1: instead of talking about Mike McCarthy, you talked to Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy or Matt Naggie or whomever it might be. So

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Speaker 1: it's a busy week, but it's it's well laid out

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Speaker 1: it's fun. It's a lot of fun ex. So part

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Speaker 1: of this week is really build as the ultimate job

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Speaker 1: interview for the players who were here. You've obviously covered combines,

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Speaker 1: you covered the draft as well. How cool is it

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Speaker 1: to see, though those young guys start out their pro

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Speaker 1: careers here and then go on to have careers in

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Speaker 1: the league. Well, it's interesting because I covered college football

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Speaker 1: for so long, So for a while it was watching

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Speaker 1: them even as like freshman college. You know, mark Ingram.

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Speaker 1: We're still good friends because you know, I covered him

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Speaker 1: all through Alabama and then he won the Heisman. Now

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Speaker 1: he's gone on to have a great pro career. So

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Speaker 1: now I don't see them as much in college. I

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Speaker 1: get to know them here a little bit. And look,

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Speaker 1: I think the NFL's great. I don't think we hear

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Speaker 1: enough with the positive stories, you know. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: bad ex in every bunch, but there are so many

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Speaker 1: great people, and so it is fun to see the start.

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Speaker 1: I still get a kick out of Tom Brady's Combine

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Speaker 1: picture and yeah, you know how that started, and you

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Speaker 1: think that was twenty years ago and what he's become.

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Speaker 1: It's just and somebody looks that will be somebody again, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know when, maybe not Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: but there'll be a story like that. And so you

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Speaker 1: don't you don't know who, which is really cool as

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Speaker 1: you get to know people. So we're here. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: draft is in a couple of months. It's really the

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Speaker 1: off season. But it never stops. No, it really never

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Speaker 1: almost busier between the Combine and getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: Draft because because the draft airs on the ESPN, we

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Speaker 1: have so much program and geared up until the draft.

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Speaker 1: After that it slows down. But no, it people cannot

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Speaker 1: problem obviously and the draft, but it uh. People ask me,

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Speaker 1: who don't follow the NFL, it's closely what do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you work during the off season?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what does it become. It's a Monday there,

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Speaker 1: Friday show and it goes year round and you know,

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Speaker 1: clearly there's those days in June and July that slowed

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Speaker 1: down and we take time, but it doesn't stop. What

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Speaker 1: is it though about the NFL that makes it so

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Speaker 1: captivating that it's turned into just a year round storyline sport. Look,

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Speaker 1: I you know, my dad's a football coach, or was

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Speaker 1: love it. I mean I really do. And that is

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Speaker 1: one thing that hasn't changed after twenty plus years of

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Speaker 1: but the one constant has been how much I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I think it's a great game. I think

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Speaker 1: it's intriguing. I do it's cheesy, but I think it's

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Speaker 1: the ultimate reality show. And I think people, you know,

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Speaker 1: I still believe it has a pivotal place in our

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Speaker 1: What is it like working the draft ka Scout? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the draft. I don't know, drafts even

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Speaker 1: is never going to be and it doesn't really matter, right,

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Speaker 1: So once that first pick is made, it's it's all

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Speaker 1: But again, when we go there for NFL Live, it's

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Speaker 1: So in speaking of watching, female viewership for NFL games

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Speaker 1: So when you look at ESPN. The network really does

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Speaker 1: But when you get big news stories like that, how

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of having you and you're not going

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Speaker 1: I will say he was relatively convincing talking about his

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Speaker 1: Because there will be a lot of talent at that

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Speaker 1: I didn't get that sense. But we'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting time, it is, it's fun. Well, Wendy, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining me. We will see you

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Speaker 1: in Vegas, Yo. That doesn't that sound funny, Yes, you will.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Have a good one. Thank you.