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Speaker 2: Today, we're diving into the movie trailers that debut during.
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: While we didn't get any doomsday trailers, we did get
Speaker 2: plenty of big names, including Yoshi torn Tons, David Fincher,
Speaker 2: and even Steven Spielberg. So we're bringing back a Boo
Speaker 2: our representative on the floor of the xr V Stuff
Speaker 2: Exchange to tee us up so we can tell you
Speaker 2: if we're stock up or stock down? Is it bye
Speaker 2: bye bye or sell sell sell.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Aboo, Welcome to the Stock Exchange.
Speaker 4: Great to be back.
Speaker 1: I hand you the I hand you the microphone.
Speaker 4: All right, So we have we have a number of
Speaker 4: trailers that we had during the Super Bowl that I
Speaker 4: wanted to talk to you both about. Thank you so
Speaker 4: much for your recommendations in the last episode. By the way,
Speaker 4: I have invested all of my fake pop culture money
Speaker 4: into fake pop culture stock and things are looking up
Speaker 4: a So, first up, I want to talk to you
Speaker 4: Tube about Steven Spielberg's disclosure Day. Is Steven Spielberg stock
Speaker 4: going up or down this year? And should I invest?
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg stock remains a very sound investment for those
Speaker 1: investors looking for a safe place to park their art
Speaker 1: or bucks, and it's a in an ove that will
Speaker 1: only grow with time. That said, I'm a little I'm
Speaker 1: a little stock down on disclosure Day, a little bit
Speaker 1: of a I thought it was a little bit boring.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little bit of a boring trailer.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a trailer that was not more
Speaker 1: exciting than two thousand and two's trailer for Signs. I
Speaker 1: thought it was not more exciting than any other Steven
Speaker 1: Spielberg movie about Aliens trailer. And I was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, I'm waiting for something to happen. Crop Circles
Speaker 1: is not getting it done for me in twenty twenty six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say push on disclosure Day, not stock down,
Speaker 1: not stock up. We need to see more. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for a second trailer before I invest.
Speaker 4: All right, you're waiting, Jason, Rosie, what about you? Crop
Speaker 4: Circle's doing it for you.
Speaker 2: I think Jason's really covering the biggest points that I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit more cynical. It's been a
Speaker 2: while since we had a big Steven Spielberg hit. Some
Speaker 2: of those more contemporary movies, even the ones that have
Speaker 2: since you know they were released, like West Side Story
Speaker 2: or even Ready Player one a controversial movie at release,
Speaker 2: but that has now garnered a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a fandom. These movies have not necessarily had the same
Speaker 2: cultural cache as Steven Spielberg. And while I think the
Speaker 2: idea of Steven Spielberg and Aliens is getting the audience excited,
Speaker 2: I think Jason's right, we haven't seen enough. It so
Speaker 2: far feels a little bit derivative. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: he's bringing enough newness to the notion of what a
Speaker 2: science fiction movie can be. So I'm gonna actually say
Speaker 2: I think I'm a little stock down. I'd say, if
Speaker 2: you want to sell a little bit, I wouldn't think
Speaker 2: it was the worst. But I agree with Jason, this
Speaker 2: is essentially a legacy studio stock, so you could slow
Speaker 2: burn it and kind of keep it around for a
Speaker 2: little and see what happens. But this closure day, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be getting the markets hyped
Speaker 2: up either way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how I feel about it, too. Real life
Speaker 4: feels stranger than fiction, and so I'm not sure that
Speaker 4: this movie is doing it for me. Yeah, Okay, let's
Speaker 4: talk about a movie that I'm sure is going to
Speaker 4: do hundreds of millions of dollars at the box office.
Speaker 4: We also got a trailer during the Super Bowl for
Speaker 4: the Super Mario Galaxy movie. Jason, what did you think
Speaker 4: are you investing?
Speaker 1: I'm buying. I'm buying big time. I'm pushing all my
Speaker 1: chips this center. Keep this, folks, and I'm I'm looking
Speaker 1: at you, Mandu Grogu, uh, mister Fallowy, John Foureau. This
Speaker 1: is how you do a fifteen second Super Bowl trailer. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank You've got action, You've got conflict, You've got characters.
Speaker 1: You've got a wonderful hook upon which to set the
Speaker 1: bait to get people to show up to the debut
Speaker 1: of this movie. April first, twenty twenty six. I am
Speaker 1: buying the Super Mario Galaxy movie, and I'm saying right now,
Speaker 1: one point twenty five billion dollars billion dollars be Rosie.
Speaker 4: Do you agree?
Speaker 2: Absolutely agree? Jason is onto something here. The truth is,
Speaker 2: the first movie was a massive smash hit, even though
Speaker 2: it wasn't maybe the intergenerational, cross generational kind of Pixar
Speaker 2: esque comedy that some fans were hoping for. It hit
Speaker 2: with that big buyer kids market and it made so
Speaker 2: much money.
Speaker 3: So bye bye bye on this one.
Speaker 2: I think it looks fun. I can't wait to see
Speaker 2: how they expand out the galaxy. And if we're just
Speaker 2: talking monetary, Jason's wright, this has the potential to be
Speaker 2: the biggest movie of the year. There is a very
Speaker 2: very large chance that we end up with this being
Speaker 2: the biggest global hit rather than Doomsday, which is kind
Speaker 2: of a crazy thing to say because didn't make money
Speaker 2: like this, But this was one of the biggest movies
Speaker 2: of the year it came out. Plus it's made by
Speaker 2: the team behind Teen Titanscoe, who are incredible. Plus the
Speaker 2: star roster is incredible, Plus kids loved it, So I
Speaker 2: think this could be a big hit. So yeah, bye
Speaker 2: bye bye on this.
Speaker 3: One, guys.
Speaker 4: I agree. I think that is a very safe investment
Speaker 4: to make this year. Okay, next up, we got a
Speaker 4: trailer for the Adventures of Cliff Boom directed by David
Speaker 4: Fincher by Quentin Tarantino. Rosie, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 4: this trailer and are you buying?
Speaker 2: Okay, So I am buying, which might may surprise some people.
Speaker 2: As we know, I'm not the hugest Tarantino fan. I
Speaker 2: do think he has made some masterpieces, like Jackie Brown,
Speaker 2: but I also think and I really enjoying Glorious Bastards,
Speaker 2: but I also think that his cultural cachet is waning
Speaker 2: with all of that set I have to support this
Speaker 2: one because actually the trailer was incredible, So I will
Speaker 2: say I think this was a big surprise. We didn't
Speaker 2: know it was coming, and I think, m hmm, it
Speaker 2: sold people. But the real reason I'm selling I'm buying
Speaker 2: Bye Bye Bye because Guardina Cinema is in this trailer, guys, and.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is all.
Speaker 3: The interior shooting.
Speaker 2: They actually shot Guardia Cinema for a month for all
Speaker 2: the interiors shooting. Inside the screen, they have a different
Speaker 2: old school concession stand that they used, but the Guardia
Speaker 2: cinema was in this. This was a bit supporter to
Speaker 2: the cinema staying open and continuing on. So I'm buying
Speaker 2: for that reason because this is gonna be a big
Speaker 2: smash hit. You got David Fincher, you got Brad Pitt.
Speaker 2: But even if you're not necessarily the biggest fan of
Speaker 2: you know, the male meritocracy of Hollywood, this is actually
Speaker 2: something that is also supporting a Korean American family owned cinema.
Speaker 2: And I love that and it was really exciting to
Speaker 2: see everyone get excited and that sequence was also just
Speaker 2: really cool and weird.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm buying on this one.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: It's a little niche biting is worth supporting. Jason, how
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we've got David Fincher doing Quentin Tarantino. You
Speaker 1: said niche. The niche is middle aged movie critics slash
Speaker 1: letterbox commentators, folks. I have to invest because I am
Speaker 1: the target audience that said I like, I have concerns.
Speaker 1: I do have concerns, and it's the same ones that
Speaker 1: you voiced Rosie, you know, question Mark. It is a
Speaker 1: Fincher feature off a Quentin Tarantino script. But again, I
Speaker 1: think as a as a a person with a letterboxed
Speaker 1: who goes to the cinema regularly, lives in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and has arguments about john Ford and whether Fincher takes
Speaker 1: too many takes. I gotta buy. I'm buying where buy
Speaker 1: it is?
Speaker 4: Sense? I think I agree with both of you. I too,
Speaker 4: am buying. Okay, next up, this is weird. I did
Speaker 4: not realize this trailer came out at all. But the
Speaker 4: Minions are getting meta and we got a trailer for
Speaker 4: minions and monsters. Jason, are you still buying minion stock
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven?
Speaker 1: Yes, course, science Listen. Look at the track record of
Speaker 1: the Minion. It speaks. It speaks for itself. Okay, whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not, it's a fact of life, folks.
Speaker 1: That's it. And this trailer has been two days on YouTube,
Speaker 1: approaching eight million views already. Folks, all the all the
Speaker 1: early metrics say, by I don't have to say anything more.
Speaker 1: Whether you are a fan of Dominions or not. You
Speaker 1: know about the Minions and you know that they are
Speaker 1: culturally huge, folks, just buy into it. By gans, Jason
Speaker 1: is correct.
Speaker 2: By the minions, there's no a com by the Minions.
Speaker 2: Also guys, just think about this. The Minions became so
Speaker 2: popular that in one of the late Dominions movie they
Speaker 2: had to caininically freeze the Minions during World War II
Speaker 2: to explain why they did not support Hitler. So really,
Speaker 2: this is kind of franchise we came you've dreamed of happening.
Speaker 2: So yes, they did caninically get frozen during the World
Speaker 2: War two periods, so they wouldn't because you know, they
Speaker 2: help the most evil people on earth. So I think
Speaker 2: that's why spanning more into the fantasy, you know, not
Speaker 2: nod wink wink universal move here, but yes, guys, if
Speaker 2: you've ever been to a Universal Studios park, if you've
Speaker 2: ever been to a target, kids love Minions.
Speaker 3: Every kid in my life loves a minion. I know
Speaker 3: adults who love Minions.
Speaker 2: They still they'll be selling a nine dollar Minion lollipop
Speaker 2: and Universal Studios and people are buying it. You buy
Speaker 2: Bye by the Minions, baby, and you're gonna be making
Speaker 2: that yellow Minion cash.
Speaker 3: It's gonna go well for you.
Speaker 1: The entire the entire series basically is over a billion,
Speaker 1: every single one of you know, every single movie threele
Speaker 1: be more media. It's the Rise of Group. They're all
Speaker 1: doing just insane numbers, insane bang up hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: into billions of dollars of numbers. They fucking re released
Speaker 1: the Spicklement like it's just it's just a cash machine, folks,
Speaker 1: buy in you ever bought it by now?
Speaker 4: Okay, it sounds like it's never too late to buy
Speaker 4: in on Minion, it's just.
Speaker 1: Going it's the lesson today, guys.
Speaker 4: Well on that mini note. Let's take a quick break,
Speaker 4: Jason and Rosie, and when we come back, we'll continue
Speaker 4: going through our list of trailers.
Speaker 5: Bye bye bye, Okay, we are back.
Speaker 4: Next up, Jason, Rosie. Yes, the Hoppers trailer. Are you
Speaker 4: buying or selling? Rosie?
Speaker 6: Guys, I'm just like so baffled that Disney was basically
Speaker 6: just like after the success of Avatar, let's do that,
Speaker 6: but we put people into the bodies of animals, Like,
Speaker 6: I am still baffled how.
Speaker 2: This movie got made. It could be super charming. It's
Speaker 2: a Disney Pixel co production. The animation looks great. I
Speaker 2: love animation, but also like, do I need to watch
Speaker 2: like a movie about somebody who's become a beaver?
Speaker 1: A beaver like a beaver?
Speaker 2: Minion two. I don't really understand. Why do you want
Speaker 2: to go inside a beava's head. They're not selling it
Speaker 2: to me. Sorry, An's corrected me. It's not a minion,
Speaker 2: it's not a beaver. It's not groundhog, it's a gopher. No,
Speaker 2: it's a beaver's ava.
Speaker 1: It is a beaver.
Speaker 2: I'm sure some kind of animal with a long tail,
Speaker 2: a wide tale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you are a cell I'm a cell. I
Speaker 1: am you know. Here's here's what I think the thinking was. Uh,
Speaker 1: inside out is huge, right, like internal inside the psyche
Speaker 1: of a character, right, Avatar is huge where another character
Speaker 1: goes inside another character is Combine those two things with
Speaker 1: a cast of adult faves Meryl Streek, John hamm Uh,
Speaker 1: Dave Franco, Sharon Richard, and I Vanessa Bear. Like all
Speaker 1: your comedy and dramatic faves for the parents, give the
Speaker 1: kids this kind of mashup of inside out an avatar
Speaker 1: to play with with cute animals, and we we rake
Speaker 1: it in. But up with you?
Speaker 3: I understand the logic you're selling it.
Speaker 2: You're selling it feels a little bit pitch to me,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's giving slap dash. Also, it seems like
Speaker 2: they're trying to also evoke a little bit of Turning Red,
Speaker 2: which was a huge hit for them, but they didn't
Speaker 2: realize it. And Aaron even pointed out a little wild
Speaker 2: robot like they kind of trying to get that oscar
Speaker 2: bait back. I think, do I think they're gonna do it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: So I'm on the I'm on the cell train, but
Speaker 3: I hope it goes well.
Speaker 1: Here's my here's my issue with me and why I'm selling,
Speaker 1: and and this is and maybe this improves. The trailer
Speaker 1: is a concept. It's not here's what the story is, yes, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just telling you, hey, there's this there's this technology
Speaker 1: where you can go into the robots, the robots, robot animals. Right,
Speaker 1: I'd like to know more. Say, here's the thing with
Speaker 1: the Super Mario is it gives you a little bit Okay,
Speaker 1: I get I get an idea of the outline of
Speaker 1: the adventure here, it's just merely the setup. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna sell for now, but maybe there's a second trailer
Speaker 1: that gives me something more to grab onto. Story wise,
Speaker 1: I gotta have story in my trailer, guys, I agree.
Speaker 3: I gotta happy, Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, I do want to ask Jason and Abou do
Speaker 2: you think this is representative of one of the real
Speaker 2: standout talking points this year, doing a teaser for fifteen
Speaker 2: seconds during the Super Bowl because you want people to
Speaker 2: go to YouTube. Do you think part of the issue
Speaker 2: here is like we're not getting enough time with these stories.
Speaker 1: I think that there is something to that, and I
Speaker 1: think it's also an acknowledgment that YouTube generational YouTube is
Speaker 1: where it's at, That's where everybody under twenty is, and
Speaker 1: if you want to really capture that audience, you have
Speaker 1: to be there. But I agree with you, it doesn't
Speaker 1: it makes you know. The current structure of trailer drops
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl feel very, very different and unsatisfying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, unsatisfying is definitely the word for me. I don't
Speaker 4: want to have to go to a link after I
Speaker 4: watch like ten seconds, ten seconds, But I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Just lost my hand.
Speaker 4: Come on, other things to do? The next trailer list
Speaker 4: here scream seven folks, the killer is coming for Sydney's Dogs.
Speaker 3: Well, bitch, I'm selling, selling, selling.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: They can't do enough to make me want to sell it.
Speaker 2: More like they just doing too much. I think that
Speaker 2: the obviously I've spoken about my feelings about Melissa Burrera recasting.
Speaker 2: But let's like and the refirming of this being like
Speaker 2: Sydney and her white daughter, and I feel like that
Speaker 2: is not the right story for right now.
Speaker 3: But anyway, aside from.
Speaker 2: That, the trailers are giving away both everything and nothing.
Speaker 2: It's giving Halloween kills, we get it. There's going to
Speaker 2: be an opening kill at Stew's house. It's giving like
Speaker 2: they rushed it through. And also, you know, they've not
Speaker 2: made a lot of friends with the burn it Down
Speaker 2: billboards that they've put up all over the area where
Speaker 2: the fires were last year. That was the hashtag they chose.
Speaker 2: They also haven't made friends with the meta AI ability
Speaker 2: that is going to allow people to put themselves into
Speaker 2: the film. They've also gone back to an old school
Speaker 2: marketing technique that was never very popular, where you get
Speaker 2: us students or free people online to do fan art
Speaker 2: and then you use it to promote your multi billion
Speaker 2: dollar movie or whatever. So I just think that while
Speaker 2: I want the franchise to succeed, I do say feel
Speaker 2: like we are about to get off us kind of
Speaker 2: mid fop ish scream movie that probably won't have a
Speaker 2: cultural renaissance in the way that some of the other
Speaker 2: ones have had. So I'm going for sell not only
Speaker 2: based on the trailer, but also based on the way
Speaker 2: that the movie is being marketed.
Speaker 1: I'm also a sell. You know, Scream originally nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: six is Scream. Part of what was so thrilling and
Speaker 1: to made that movie so legendary and so timeless is
Speaker 1: it was a perfect amount like mix of a wonderful
Speaker 1: horror movie, comedy horror movie and it's own right, and
Speaker 1: also a very very sharp edged satire of some of
Speaker 1: your favorite horroronies. Yeap, how can it be with horror
Speaker 1: as vibrant as it's ever been, I would argue that
Speaker 1: that satire piece feels completely gone slash rudderless. Yes, there
Speaker 1: does appear there's like a Halloween Kills aspect to it,
Speaker 1: but it's not even clear that that's a cont kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And there's none of the there's none of
Speaker 1: the finally needle pointed, targeted hit set tropes that have
Speaker 1: developed in the genre over the last ten years. There's
Speaker 1: some there's some really incredible horror movies out there, like
Speaker 1: really you can't take a shot at five nights something
Speaker 1: like it's.
Speaker 3: Just weird that the shows you're still in the wesgeist.
Speaker 1: That you're still in it. Yeah, you still understand what
Speaker 1: is going on inside the genre, not just inside your
Speaker 1: movie franchise. IP and so I gotta sell sadly I go.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's talk about this next trailer. Personally, I'm already heavily
Speaker 4: invested in this. Whe Oh, Jason, what are your thoughts
Speaker 4: on the Project tail Mary trailer we got during the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm buying. I'm buying. It's a book that you read
Speaker 1: that you're like, I can see this being a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and here it is. I think it's the perfect combination
Speaker 1: of director and cast. It's a it's a hopeful sci
Speaker 1: fi about saving the globe from a you know, ecological collapse.
Speaker 1: And honestly, if this had been the trailer that Steven
Speaker 1: Spielberg could put out, people would be fucking climbing like
Speaker 1: over walls, Yes, going crazy, jumping.
Speaker 3: Absolutely true.
Speaker 1: This is a This is a wonderful, magical trailer. I'm exciting.
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm barbray, I'm buying. Also, I got
Speaker 3: to tell you, guys, I think that we really know.
Speaker 2: The a studio believes that the movie has legs when
Speaker 2: they make a Lego out of it, and they have
Speaker 2: revealed some really freaking cool projectile Mary Lego, and I
Speaker 2: think like that, alongside the fact that this trailer looks
Speaker 2: like the kind of Amblin nostalgia bait, but with something
Speaker 2: else like pushing it forward, this is a different kind
Speaker 2: of protagonist than we've seen before. Ian mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: have the trailers spoiled the book. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: The magic of the book and the reveal in the
Speaker 2: book is incredible, but how do you market a book
Speaker 2: like that. We've had that conversation, and I think that
Speaker 2: what they've managed to do is bring in the aspects
Speaker 2: that are usually more secretive in a way that just
Speaker 2: makes you more excited to see the movie, which I
Speaker 2: think is a really a testament to the skill of
Speaker 2: the editors. I love Ryan Gosling. I think he's a star.
Speaker 2: I think he's a great person. I just I want
Speaker 2: this movie to do well. I'm buying not only because
Speaker 2: I think it looks magical, but also because I want
Speaker 2: it to succeed. This is like an investment I'm spending
Speaker 2: with my wallet. Guys, I'm supporting with my wallet. Let's
Speaker 2: support weird sci fi movies with great casts and incredible
Speaker 2: creative teams.
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I want to see it.
Speaker 1: Kids are gonna love this rocky. Yeah, they want They're
Speaker 1: gonna want a rocky plushy. They're gonna want a rocky
Speaker 1: little boo boo. They're gonna like it.
Speaker 3: I think, Jason, great cool because.
Speaker 4: By you are, science nerds are going to be all
Speaker 4: over this movie.
Speaker 2: If part of the reason that they'd spoiled it is
Speaker 2: because they knew the toys would come out, So if
Speaker 2: they hadn't have spoiled it, the toys would have spoiled
Speaker 2: it anyway.
Speaker 3: So now you can have the lego, now you can
Speaker 3: have the plush the hot topic. You're absolutely right, He's
Speaker 3: going to be the little guy of this movie.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. That's very exciting to
Speaker 2: me as a little guy lover.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm currently working my way through the book, which
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying. I also wanted to say, I believe Greg
Speaker 4: Frasier is the cinematographer for this film. He previously worked
Speaker 4: with Danny Villanovo on both Dune films, and it shows
Speaker 4: the shots in this trailer are gorgeous. I cannot wait
Speaker 4: to watch this on a giant massive I'm.
Speaker 2: So glad you brought up Don actually a Boo, because
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that with the Lego collaboration. Because
Speaker 2: also that is another adult focused franchise where they understand
Speaker 2: that there is a nerdy market, a collectible's market, a
Speaker 2: market of people who are one going to have an
Speaker 2: an orna for copter or you know whatever the fancy
Speaker 2: bird copters are and doing like and I love that
Speaker 2: they understand that Project hel Mary is a similar audience.
Speaker 2: So I love that you bought the connective tissue behind
Speaker 2: the screen too.
Speaker 3: I think this could.
Speaker 2: Really be the breakout of the year if it's as
Speaker 2: good as it looks like it's going to be, and
Speaker 2: maybe that will push us to some really fun new
Speaker 2: sci fi places in the next couple of years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I certainly hope, so I'm investing my money. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's take one more break, Jason Rosie. When we come back,
Speaker 4: we're going to talk.
Speaker 2: About Mando and Grogy, which we have not song that.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're back, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Jason.
Speaker 4: We got a teaser trailer I suppose for Mandaloris Grogu.
Speaker 4: I don't know that. I don't know that. I want
Speaker 4: to call it a trailer, But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 4: And are you buying or selling Mandoin Gregu's stock after
Speaker 4: seeing it?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, sell, sell, sell, sell. The previous teaser
Speaker 1: that we saw left us wondering, uh, why does this
Speaker 1: look the same as watching it on my laptops watching
Speaker 1: you know, the mandalorian of my laptop screens shouldn't be
Speaker 1: judged up a little, shouldn't be jazzed up. And then
Speaker 1: we get this teaser trailer that I guess was like
Speaker 1: half a teaser, half a satire of a Budweiser Clyisdale
Speaker 1: ad using tontons, no story, no conflict. Is this a
Speaker 1: scene from the movie or not? Like so many questions,
Speaker 1: I gotta sell this. This movie comes out in May, Crazy,
Speaker 1: And what you're telling me is, if this is the
Speaker 1: scene from the movie, this is your most completed set
Speaker 1: of footage, you have to you have nothing else, There's
Speaker 1: no there's This movie comes out in three months, and
Speaker 1: there's no other anything that you can show us. During
Speaker 1: the turny second ad Crazy, I had to sell this
Speaker 1: is a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm a lot alarming Jason's having the right response. Guys,
Speaker 3: this is alarming.
Speaker 2: There is a time that a two minute Star Wars
Speaker 2: Super Bowl trailer would have been the talk of the
Speaker 2: Internet for months. We would have been dissecting it, we
Speaker 2: would have written fifty articles, we might have done three episodes,
Speaker 2: and yet instead they have managed to turn this into
Speaker 2: feeling like a TV special. I think the Clydesdale commercial
Speaker 2: plays into the TV special of it. Or Also, the
Speaker 2: funniest thing was all I saw were people sharing their
Speaker 2: memories and memes of the time that the Clydesdale's knelt
Speaker 2: after nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: So I do not think it had the culture and
Speaker 3: meme impact that.
Speaker 2: Disney was expecting. I've got to be honest. That is
Speaker 2: the legacy of it, all those memes. We love the baby,
Speaker 2: we love Pedro Pascal. But guys, come on, we need
Speaker 2: to know what is the movie about, what is the plot?
Speaker 2: What is going to make it stand out from the
Speaker 2: TV show?
Speaker 1: Like come on, sal sal sal, love, Love the Baby,
Speaker 1: Love Pedro Pascal. Sixty of the shots in this trailer,
Speaker 1: or close up some ton CON's head and see what
Speaker 1: ass what is going on?
Speaker 3: What can we do it?
Speaker 4: Guys?
Speaker 1: Also, but to me, the platonic ideal of a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl movie trailer spot is twenty twelve's a dangers spot
Speaker 1: during during whatever that was LEXV Like, I forget which
Speaker 1: super Bowl that was, but I went from hopeful but
Speaker 1: not particularly enthused to holy shit, I think they did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that.
Speaker 1: Answered all my questions, calmed all my fears. This just
Speaker 1: made me very nervous. It truly has made me very concerned.
Speaker 2: Because also like, what could even if that wasn't just
Speaker 2: made for this, Like what could the plot be? And
Speaker 2: also like I think that Disney is misunderstanding the cultural
Speaker 2: cachet and place off Star Wars right now. If this
Speaker 2: was the first Star Wars commercial for the first project
Speaker 2: that we've.
Speaker 3: Got on for ten years, and you see it and
Speaker 3: you think.
Speaker 2: It's a Clyesdell commercial and it turns out to be
Speaker 2: a torn to one and it's a tease that there's.
Speaker 3: Going to be a new Star Wars movie.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a world where that works, But the idea
Speaker 2: that people are going to be so excited that they
Speaker 2: have Star Wars characters like homaging one commercial didn't even
Speaker 2: commit to it being a recurring bit, which someone on
Speaker 2: the pod suggested, and I think would have been way
Speaker 2: funnier if they'd have homaged. You know, you could have
Speaker 2: had them surfing like or the Guinness Horses commercial on
Speaker 2: the waves or whatever. Like there's a bit of more
Speaker 2: commitment that would have made it maybe land But yeah,
Speaker 2: not delivering, not hopeful, and it makes me feel like
Speaker 2: they heard people say, hey, it looks like that's what
Speaker 2: I would watch on my TV, and they went, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's basically exactly what it's gonna look like, so better
Speaker 2: not show you guys anymore. That's kind of how it
Speaker 2: feels to me, sadly. So I want to see that
Speaker 2: bombastic trailer for example, Guys. I meant to say this
Speaker 2: before I saw the project hel Mary Traylor. Just the
Speaker 2: other night when I was watching sent Help, really fun movie.
Speaker 3: It was on XD.
Speaker 2: It looked incredible. I was like, I want to see
Speaker 2: this on an imax. That is not how I feel.
Speaker 2: I will watch Mandalorin and Grogu on my phone and
Speaker 2: I don't even watch stuff on my phone, but that's
Speaker 2: the vibe.
Speaker 3: It was giving.
Speaker 2: So like, give us something more, guys, please please sell
Speaker 2: us help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is is Pedro? We don't even know.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, was that even the
Speaker 3: real baby?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Like the fifth is that the fifth baby Yoda puppet?
Speaker 2: They had that one in Canada on the side, so
Speaker 2: they used it, and they had the the Stumpman in the.
Speaker 3: Suit, Like are these even really the Staws? Did you
Speaker 3: pull out the stars for the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Guys?
Speaker 3: Well they got us both on a Steven A. Smith
Speaker 3: type brand today, but I think it's a silly choice.
Speaker 3: They didn't do a good job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel like we're in dire straits and
Speaker 4: that we're heading toward a potential done of a movie,
Speaker 4: which is really tragic because I want this movie to
Speaker 4: be good, good.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: They got to pull out something desperate now. They need to,
Speaker 4: like Grogu's Dad needs to like show up Dad. We
Speaker 4: need like a Dad off movie or something to get
Speaker 4: me reinvested, because right now I don't know what this
Speaker 4: movie is about and it looks bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, imagine if Groguity and a Budweiser frog hilarious.
Speaker 1: Karen, Yeah you should be.
Speaker 3: That would have been great, Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, And again, there's nothing worse
Speaker 1: than a half a joke like was such Clydesdale, Budweiser
Speaker 1: satire or not?
Speaker 4: Right, don't make a commit to Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well
Speaker 4: those are some of the trailers from the super Bowl
Speaker 4: that we wanted to highlight. But I think to wrap up,
Speaker 4: it's worth maybe touching on some things that didn't air
Speaker 4: during the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 4: Notably we did not get any Marvel trailers and the
Speaker 4: Supergirl trailer which was released the day of the super
Speaker 4: Bowl directly to YouTube, skipping the super Bowl altogether, Let's
Speaker 4: start with Supergirl. Jason, how are you feeling on your
Speaker 4: investment strategy for James Gun and Supergirl?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm bullish on James Gun. My worries are more
Speaker 1: the structure around him. They're all kind of like corporate
Speaker 1: volatility and whether it is the case or not that
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers and whoever you know puts down the price
Speaker 1: for Warner Brothers in the coming months. Actually is fully
Speaker 1: one hundred invested in the James Gun averse the strategy
Speaker 1: he has put forward for DC. I think this trailer
Speaker 1: is wonderful, but but the only thing that keeps me
Speaker 1: from a full throated investment, and I'm a buye just
Speaker 1: based on the quality I'm a buye, but what is
Speaker 1: going on with the company in general? And and it
Speaker 1: concerns me. And you get the sense that whether it's
Speaker 1: because of this underlying volatility and the questions about the
Speaker 1: the ultimate fate of the company, that the company is
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent are pedal to the metal behind anything,
Speaker 1: including Gun and DC. It just feels like that, like
Speaker 1: why not do this at the Super Bowl? Why why
Speaker 1: do this in the day of and then the weird
Speaker 1: James Gunn kind of like, oh, it's going to be
Speaker 1: the public bull but then I'm going to It's like
Speaker 1: it's it feels again, very slap dash, very kind of
Speaker 1: like let guns own personal arm who at a marketing
Speaker 1: department ship agree? And so I am I have concerns.
Speaker 1: I'm a bye, but I'm attentative.
Speaker 2: I'm I think Jason's covered really the worries you need
Speaker 2: to know, guys, But I'm gonna be a little bit safer.
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna be a push Let's wait and see
Speaker 3: what happens. I think I think that I agree bullish
Speaker 3: on Gun, bullish on his vision, but I am not
Speaker 3: bullish on the fact that DC believes in it.
Speaker 2: I'm already getting one, James Gunn did not direct this movie. Two,
Speaker 2: I'm already getting the feeling of okay, so you didn't
Speaker 2: do a super Bowl commercial for the female led superhero
Speaker 2: movie that's meant to be your biggest movie of the year.
Speaker 2: That's smacking of someone at the top does not believe
Speaker 2: this is a sellable movie. I'll be interested to see
Speaker 2: what are the toy lines gonna look like.
Speaker 3: Are they gonna really heavily market it in that toy
Speaker 3: ethic sense that they did with Superman? Those kind of things.
Speaker 3: You need people at the top who believe in the movie.
Speaker 3: And sadly we know from people like Ike Perlma, from
Speaker 3: the experiences of Marvel, even just from the fact that
Speaker 3: we don't really have a lot of female led superhero
Speaker 3: movies even now compared to how many male ones we have,
Speaker 3: that has never been seen as like a buyer's market.
Speaker 3: I also will say, even though great trailer really fun,
Speaker 3: there is not a lot of new footage in here.
Speaker 2: The new footage mostly is just of the Kryptonians, which
Speaker 2: I love, and I love Kryptonian law.
Speaker 3: But I again slightly worried.
Speaker 2: About what this movie's gonna look like and feel like
Speaker 2: especially because the art style is so stunning.
Speaker 3: Bill Chris Everly's art in the first.
Speaker 2: Original Supergirl Women of Tomorrow book is so incredible and fantastical,
Speaker 2: and they are definitely pulling back on that and making
Speaker 2: it look a bit more like generic orangey superhero movie.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say push. I think the movie will
Speaker 3: be great.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna find its audience, But I do
Speaker 2: worry that if it doesn't make a billion dollars, we
Speaker 2: could be at the end of the James Gunn era
Speaker 2: of DC, because it does feel like whoever was his biggest,
Speaker 2: loudest champions there have maybe got a little bit less
Speaker 2: power now, and we know that that can.
Speaker 3: Totally derail a movie release.
Speaker 2: I got to do a really cool interview once with
Speaker 2: Alex Winter and his collaborator on the movie Freaked, a
Speaker 2: very now cult classic movie.
Speaker 3: That movie was beloved by the exec at the studio.
Speaker 3: It was going to get this huge release. They had
Speaker 3: spent all this money on it.
Speaker 2: That exec left and the next exec went to one
Speaker 2: bad screening of it and was like, we're shelving the
Speaker 2: movie because it was like a crazy screening in South LA.
Speaker 2: Nobody got it. It was like totally rowdy, like those
Speaker 2: kind of things. It can be personal opinion, and my
Speaker 2: feeling just feels like the belief and impact that they
Speaker 2: had with Superman, the way they did the Superman roll out,
Speaker 2: the junket, all of that was so incredible. They got
Speaker 2: people feeling hopeful, excited. I worry they're not going to
Speaker 2: put that same amount of energy into Supergirl, and then
Speaker 2: it could become a self fulfilling prophecy. So I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say push, but I believe in it, and if you
Speaker 2: believe in it, this could be a good little investment
Speaker 2: to kind of support Supergirl with your fake pop culture money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in the push camp as well, because I
Speaker 4: also I'm a little worried about the tone of the film.
Speaker 4: I really love that the comic is. The darker parts
Speaker 4: of the comic, the more slower reflective parts of the comic,
Speaker 4: and I feel like the movie's getting a little bit
Speaker 4: of the like and down the Edges agreed, make it
Speaker 4: You're a little more palatable generic superhero movie, which I
Speaker 4: think would be a miss. It misses a lot of
Speaker 4: the what makes the comics so so goot.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: Okay, Rosie's sticking with you for a minute, let's end
Speaker 4: on Marvel, who were a no show at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Does that make you worry? Does that make you want
Speaker 4: to pull back on some of your some of the
Speaker 4: things you've already invested in Doomsday and Marvel franchises this year,
Speaker 4: or do you think Marvel doesn't need the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3: They're firing to be real?
Speaker 2: I think at this point, Marvel, I think this was
Speaker 2: a missed opportunity for them. I think this would have
Speaker 2: been a great place to tease, even a fifteen second
Speaker 2: teaser of how all those characters were going to come together,
Speaker 2: even just an amalgamation teaser of all of them with
Speaker 2: maybe a title reveal at the end, with a good logo.
Speaker 2: They need the momentum to go. In the past, we
Speaker 2: know that Marvel has loved to show their own self
Speaker 2: importance and place in the market, which was for a
Speaker 2: long time number one, by essentially going outside of these
Speaker 2: systems that usually make these announcements. They did it with
Speaker 2: the El Capitan announcement, a very famous one where multiple
Speaker 2: of the movies never came out, but a lot of
Speaker 2: them did.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 2: The last huge one was presented by ash Cross and
Speaker 2: they were there they were talking about Blade with Marsha
Speaker 2: l Ali. Again didn't come out, but we did see
Speaker 2: some of that phase stuff happen. Marvel likes to be
Speaker 2: either at San Diego Comicon or say hey, we don't
Speaker 2: need that, let's do it here, let's do it outside.
Speaker 2: I feel like here they felt like they were doing
Speaker 2: something like that, maybe with the rollouts, but I feel
Speaker 2: like that rollout was far from smooth, and while it
Speaker 2: did get people really excited, including us, it would have
Speaker 2: been cool to see them come out with a big,
Speaker 2: bombastic strategy. You know, we saw Robert Downey Junior there,
Speaker 2: he was wearing the Doomsday's T shirt. Then the hype
Speaker 2: on the internet started going, Oh, are we going to
Speaker 2: get a five second teas or are we going to
Speaker 2: get something? And we're going to get to see him as Doom.
Speaker 2: And I think that they missed the opportunity to be
Speaker 2: the main conversation starter, especially because as we've kind of
Speaker 2: talked about, none of the trailers hit in a way
Speaker 2: that made it the trailer you needed to talk about,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the ad time was actually taken
Speaker 2: up by corporations and glps and AI and all this
Speaker 2: other stuff that didn't hit with people in the same way.
Speaker 2: They felt like they were being sold to, which obviously
Speaker 2: is the purpose of an advert, but the whole idea
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl is you're meant to not really.
Speaker 3: Feel that way.
Speaker 2: So I think that Marvel could have come out here
Speaker 2: with an incredible talking point if they had something great,
Speaker 2: and the fact that they didn't do that and instead
Speaker 2: Disney spent the money on that Mandalorian Grogu and that
Speaker 2: makes me worried because I'm like, you didn't have fifteen
Speaker 2: seconds of doomsday that was better than that?
Speaker 3: Like that's worrying.
Speaker 2: Like I just think I think they were trying to prove,
Speaker 2: like we don't need the Super Bowl, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they proved that is how I feel.
Speaker 3: Jason, what have been?
Speaker 4: Do you agree? Jason?
Speaker 1: I mean you said it all. I agree. I think
Speaker 1: that you know, Robert Jannny Junior did post a picture
Speaker 1: of him watching the Super Bowl wearing a doomsday shirt,
Speaker 1: which smacked of desperation degree it. It smacks of disagreements
Speaker 1: within the Marvel Disney camp about whether or not they
Speaker 1: should something. That shows me that Robert Downey Jr. Is like,
Speaker 1: why didn't we do something and I think when you
Speaker 1: put that all together, the rollout of the various teasers
Speaker 1: that we've seen in recent weeks, with the kind of
Speaker 1: secret code that people are excited about but have kind
Speaker 1: of lost interest in again, it feels like a kind
Speaker 1: of it's like when Lebron you know, claps and throws
Speaker 1: the chalk in there. There's a lot of chalk in
Speaker 1: the air, but the but I don't see anything yet. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. You've said it all. It
Speaker 1: was a missed opportunity and it does leave me worrying.
Speaker 1: Now here's my tea. If this was a May release,
Speaker 1: I would be very, very worried. Like Mandalorian Grogu, it's
Speaker 1: a December release, so there is more time on the clock,
Speaker 1: and I think, hey, it's the yeah, yeah, it's December,
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna start seeing trailers like back to school
Speaker 1: time and it's gonna be it's a different rollout schedule. Fine,
Speaker 1: I still feel like you could have done something, And
Speaker 1: the r DJ kind of like rogue post makes me
Speaker 1: wonder if there isn't trouble in I agree.
Speaker 4: All right, Well that's it for the Super Bowl trailers.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go make some tweaks to my stock portfolio
Speaker 4: after these conversations. Thank you for enlightening me.
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