1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Time now for a sports update on a podcast. Joe 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Buck honored by Baseball's Hall of Fame as the twenty 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: twenty six Frick Award winner. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Pretty amazing. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: He will join his dad Michigan fire Sharon Moore for 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: inappropriate relationships. And he's in custody as a suspect in 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: an alleged assault. And finally, there was a great Emu 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: war in nineteen thirty two between EMU birds and the 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Australian Army. 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: The EMUs won. How about that? Israel Gudieirez our boy 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Joe Buck going to the. 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: Hall freaking awesome? I would say he was, but I'm sorry. 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: I know we do the whole song and dance. But 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: how did a flock of birds win a war against 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: a bunch of humans? 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: So it says the emu war was a bizarre nineteen 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: thirty two Australian military operation. Soldiers were armed with machine 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: guns were deployd to call around twenty thousand destructive EMUs 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: that were ruining crops, but the operation failed spectacular as 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: the fast Brazilian birds proved impossible to effectively target, leading 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: the military to withdraw and defeat and have to surrender. 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 23 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: You couldn't just bomb the birds? How are you not 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: beating this girl? I'm looking at some photos here. It 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: is nightmare fuel Like, it is absolutely just scary as 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: hell to see these large ass birds running at you. 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: But it's not like you gotta go with a single 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: gun with all these just bomb the birds. 29 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: I had totally with you that army should be ashamed 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: of themselves. I mean, say, you can't beat birds? What 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: you weren't in the thick of it? Yeah, I know, 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't ya. 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: And I'm starting to wonder who's in charge between Doug 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: and the EMU, because those commercials seem like Doug's in charge, 35 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: but EMU seems to be the one that's running shit. 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: I think Liberty Mutual has kind of ruined the emu's reputation. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: I think schools should make their mascots the EMUs. I 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: had no idea that this was even a thing, and 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: now all of a sudden they're winning wars. 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm with you, the EMU deserves more respect after winning 41 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: a war. I'm totally with you. 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 4: Put it on the pall. Does the EMU deserve more respect? 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, listen, it's not respected enough. It's just not 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: the EMU, especially when you consider it took down a 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: fucking army. 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: Do you know that EMUs will shake their feathers to 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: make a rattling noise like a snake to warn predators. 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: That's crazy, They're bad assence, wait to say that again. 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: They shake their tail feathers, right, and to make a 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 3: rattling nose. 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: You're doing this, shake as you do it, hold on. 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: Hold on slow, Say it again so I can see 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: you shake again. 54 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: EMUs will shake their feathers right. I don't know if 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: you can see that. 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 57 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: I had to make a rattling noise to warn predators. Wow, okay, 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: so they're giving you a warning. 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: Yes, they're trying to make it sound like you've got 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: like a rattlesnake there, So don't come near me. 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: Ah, the old bait and switch. Yeah, that's We'll get 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: to the Michigan story just the second here. 63 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Check it on, Doug. 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have five burning NBA questions for 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Israel Gutierrez. Who wants me to do this every Friday? Uh, 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: to finish the week while smoking a joint? 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: Uh? And I made right the burning listen, I promise. 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: You next week me you joint burning NBA questions collision 69 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: course next Friday. 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll pass it around the zoom. How's that? 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: But I have five today? Just say that all right? Right? 72 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: Uh? 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: But Taylor had told me thanks to Mike Francesa for 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: joining us and no hour number one Josh Paikin had 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: joined us, uh in god bless football coming up. But 76 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Taylor was telling me right before we came on air, 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: there is someone who has dipped his toe into the 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: podcast waters and came out with an amazing I think 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: this is this is how you positioned it, an amazing 80 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: first take to start his podcas cast career. I don't 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: want to guess, so I just I would prefer Taylor 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: to reveal it to us, unless you guys feel like 83 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: guessing who this person might be, you know, I. 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: Mean, is it a veteran that we know of that 85 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: just happened to be a podcaster all of a sudden 86 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: that we didn't recognize, or so it's. 87 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: A it's a combo of a vet and somebody he's 88 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: bringing in to his world to do a podcast. 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: Is it skip Bayless? 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: No, but close along along the taket skips so long? 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean, jeez, yeah, So. 92 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: The podcast is a Spotify Ringer original podcast. It's called 93 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 4: Game Over with Max Kallerman, Ah, Rich Paul. 94 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: Really Rich Paul. 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: And then in the first episode he said, why don't 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: the Cowboys trade for Patrick Mahomes? 97 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Wow? Why not? 98 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: Because the Chiefs won't do it? I mean, but that 99 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: is a good, excellent job at a Rich Paul. I 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: mean that is I'll tell you do it. That's how 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: you dip your toe into the podcast waters by trading 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to the Cowboys within your first five sentences. 103 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: That's great. 104 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: How many draft picks and starters do they have to 105 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: send back to Kansas City for Patrick Mahomes? 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: You keep Dak. 107 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: You start with Dak, right, I mean Dak, Ceedee, Lamb, 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: George Pickens, six first rounders. 109 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: I think Andy Reid went to Super Bowl with that. 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: So I mean maybe the Chiefs should listen Rich Paul 111 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: really Rich Paul. 112 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: Yes, now it's got me thinking about agents. 113 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: It would be good at this. 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: I swear I thought he was going to say Billy Gill. 115 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: The second he said the ringer, I was like, wow, 116 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: Billy Gill. It must be some sort of crazy take, 117 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: which for Billy would have been normal take. 118 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm certain Billy will be dipping his toes into 119 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: the podcast warders soon. 120 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: I would imagine. 121 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: So really Rich Paul and he's teamed up with Max Kellerman. 122 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Now Simmons a part of this. 123 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't look like it. It looks like it's just those. 124 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 3: Really, but wondering what Max has been up to. He's 125 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: really waiting on that around the Horn follow up. 126 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, listen, it's been a while for Max, right, 127 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: it's he disappeared once, uh once he left, uh first take, 128 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: and so I'm excited for him to come back. I'm 129 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm sorry. I'm speechless that I'm shocked 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: because I've never had Max Kellorman coming back with Rich Paul. 131 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Mean, all right, well, let's talk about something that's You're 132 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: more comfortable talking about. 133 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: Your pingo card. It was I thought it'd be skipped. Yes, yeah, 134 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: oh I might. 135 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: Listen to that. Exes xes and os. 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Taylor put this on the pole. Has James Franklin 137 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: already tried? Has he called his agent in an effort 138 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: to try to wiggle off the Virginia Tech contract so 139 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: we could take the Michigan job. 140 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: It's a wordy poll, but I'm pretty certain a lot. 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Of coaches have called their agent saying, hey, I'd be 142 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: interested in that job. What a crazy story that broke 143 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: yesterday is mid afternoon where Charon Moore, the Michigan head coach, 144 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: was let go by the university and then we find 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: out maybe about an hour or so later, that he 146 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: has arrested. He is arrested by the police. He is 147 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: still in custody right now. We don't have any updates 148 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: on the story. But just a shocking story. And I 149 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: hate when this happens when people start saying, yeah, it's 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: a shocking story. But this has been kind of lurking 151 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: around the program. There have been rumors for a couple 152 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: of weeks. Now, this is not a surprise to Edie One. Sorry, 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: I was fucking shocked by it. I had no idea 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: that there were rumors around the program that Sharon Moore 155 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: was having an affair with someone on the Michigan staff, 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: that allegedly he gave her a fifty five thousand dollars 157 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: or fifty five percent raised out of nowhere, that he 158 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: was not trying to keep this a secret. I had 159 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: no idea, and so just a shocking story. And it 160 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: comes not that there's any good time for this, but 161 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: in terms of Michigan's timing, it's the worst possible time 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: when you consider recruiting, when you consider a lot of 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: these coaches have heard he left their current schools to 164 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: go elsewhere. 165 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: So what were your thoughts on this is he as 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: it broke yesterday? Yeah. 167 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: I had two sort of overriding thoughts as I was 168 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: reading through everything. Number one was, oh, yeah, that's Michigan's 169 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: new head coach, because honestly, like after Harvard, I wasn't 170 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: really paying that close attention and so I was like, Okay, 171 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: that's in the head coaches. The second one was the 172 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: thing that I don't know if it bothered me or 173 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: if it was So I'm trying to put myself in 174 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: the place of these reporters who heard, you know whatever 175 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: it was secondhand, heard rumors about more and these relationships. 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm here in wetsill say this is not a surprise 177 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: to him yet he wasn't reporting on it. But I 178 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: don't blame him because he doesn't report on rumors. 179 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: Well, this is what I'm talking about, right, So it's 180 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: like you have to weigh whether you believe this reported 181 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: rumor is something you should sort of pull at right, 182 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: pull on that thread. Or if it's just some salacious 183 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: bs that you don't want to get involved with because 184 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 3: it's their personal life. 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: Right. 186 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: If you happen to know that Michigan is very strict 187 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: about this sort of policy with dating within within the organization, 188 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: then maybe you should try to report on it because 189 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: it is a violation of the Michigan program. 190 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 6: Right. 191 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: But then if it's not true, if it's something that 192 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: you're just sort of pulling on, you're just like, well, 193 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: they're gonna hate me for this. It's going to ruin 194 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: my reputation as a reporter. I'm not going to want 195 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: to get involved here. Let somebody else handle that. But 196 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 3: when you consider what happened with the Boston Celtics and 197 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: email Udoka and how sort of instant that was and 198 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: how they separated themselves from him, if I was a 199 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: I'd be wondering, man, I think I might have to 200 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: ask some questions about this. And even if it's like, hey, 201 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: I could be dead wrong here. I'm not saying this 202 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: is true. I am working on rumors here. 203 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: Tell me. 204 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: If there's anything to this, then you'd be able to 205 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: get a read from them, whether they're panicking saying no, no, 206 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: you got to stay away from the da da dah. 207 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: And then there is you know, maybe that is something 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: you need to continue to report on, or if they 209 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: just flat out say, hey, it's a lie. 210 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: Get don't even worry about it. 211 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: You'll be doing yourself a favor by not reporting on 212 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: that to me was the big question mark. It's just like, wow, 213 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: what do I as a sports reporter because I hated 214 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: having to do anything like this. Like I remember one 215 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: time with the Miami Heat, there was a player my 216 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: first year, so you can go back to two thousand 217 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: and just guess which player it was. But there's a 218 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: player who had an ex who was reaching out to 219 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: reporters saying, oh, this player has not been paying his 220 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: child support and it's gonna get sued and all this 221 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: and this and that. 222 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm just like, what the hell am I supposed to 223 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: do with this? 224 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: And so I ended up going back to said player 225 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: and just saying, hey, I'm getting easy. I don't know 226 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: what to do, and he was just like, thank you, 227 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: just so you know, here's my side of the story. 228 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: It's all nonsense, blah blah blah, And then I just 229 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: dropped it and then it turns out that there was 230 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 3: nothing there. There's nothing there, and it ended up being 231 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: okay that I dropped it. But in a situation like this, again, 232 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: especially because of the Boston Celtics situation, just makes me 233 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: think that, yeah, maybe it should have been something that 234 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: you ask about early. 235 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: But it felt like Michigan was even like in a 236 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: wait and see situation. 237 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: Let's let's see if he's a really good coach, because 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: then maybe we can overlook this. That's kind of what 239 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: it felt like in the reporting that I that I read. 240 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Wait, so this is interesting to me. 241 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: You did not like the reporting where you had to 242 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: dig into someone's personal life. 243 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? No, I hate that. 244 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: I hate it, And like I got into sports to 245 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: cover sports, dude, I got it, spot, I didn't go 246 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: even when you chose to. 247 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Be a journalist, you chose to be a reporter, you know, Yeah, 248 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: and that comes along with it, right, and you know. 249 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Crossing my finger that it doesn't come up that often 250 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: in whatever team that I covered, and you know, fortunately 251 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: it hasn't. 252 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't like covering that stuff. 253 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna guess most of the people, unless you 254 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: are an investigative journalist. That's what you're you know, the 255 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: itch that you scratch, and you would love that. But 256 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: for me, I would say probably most of the people 257 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: who got into a career of covering sports and don't 258 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 3: want to cover family law situations, you know what I mean? 259 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: Yes, the second part of the story is at least 260 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: for me, uh far more jarring. There was an affair, 261 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: they happened, he was fired, he was let go. The 262 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: second part of the story where you're wondering to yourself, 263 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: why is he in custody? Okay, he was fired by Michigan, 264 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: But why is he in custody? Because then you start 265 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: to think, what did he do? What has happened here? 266 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Is there something crashing out? Is it something we should 267 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: be concerned with? Yes, And so the reports are that 268 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: he showed up at this person's house, the person he 269 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: was having an affair with, broke into the house and 270 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: threatened to kill himself and her and so, and now 271 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: he's in custody. And so the second part of the 272 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: story where you start to wonder, Wow, this is more 273 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: serious than a coach just having an affair. This is 274 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: more serious than a coach being let go by Michigan, 275 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: there might be something wrong inside that person's head. 276 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: And Izzy, I've said this for. 277 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: A million years, and you have been way closer to 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: the athletes than the coaches than I have. We do 279 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: not know these people and what they're going through. We 280 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: have no idea what's inside of those. 281 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: Books, regardless of Michigan policy, regardless of who works where. Right, 282 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: if you're in a situation, you're a public figure, you 283 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: have a family, and then you get caught doing this, 284 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what it feels like to have your 285 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 3: entire world collapse in a day and everybody know why, 286 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: and everybody and just judging i'm sure from a distance 287 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: and mother fing you because they're you know, Michigan fans. 288 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: It's like, how could you do this? Blah blah blah. 289 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: I can't imagine how quickly anybody could spiral out of 290 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: control in that situation, because that's your entire life potentially 291 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: just being gone, just like that. 292 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Right, it's such a great point by you, the idea 293 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: that this guy was the big man on campus, the 294 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: most probably one of the most powerful men on campus, 295 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: and now everyone's sprinting away from him, and so right, 296 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom what that must feel like, the 297 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: fall from grace. 298 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: There's so many layers to it too, Like you don't 299 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: get too many black men who get the opportunity to 300 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: be head coaches in football, and you know. 301 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: Especially in a place like Michigan. 302 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: Is he Yeah, especially at a place like Michigan, and 303 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: you don't want to mess up that opportunity, right, That's 304 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: another layer of this whole thing. But to me, it's 305 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: just it does make you wonder, Hey, let's make sure 306 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: that he's okay, that he's not doing any damage to himself, 307 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 3: that she's ony obviously right, or other people, because it 308 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: is It is, honestly one of the most I can't 309 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: imagine outside of a death in the family, a sudden 310 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: death of multiple members of your family. Just how if 311 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: there's anything that compares to this level of shock. 312 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: A lot of college football fans too, I think we're 313 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: skeptical about the timing the announcement because they lose to 314 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 4: Ohio State. They do this right after signing day? Was 315 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: this a move for Michigan to try to protect themselves? 316 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: But you're you're looking at the reporting, this is from 317 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: John U. Bacon. You am conducted an internal investigation interviewing 318 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: both More and the employee this summer, both said that 319 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: this didn't happen, that Michigan didn't really have much to 320 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: go on. But John U. Bacon the sports journalists, He said, 321 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: her account flipped yesterday morning. So then when when her 322 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: account flips yesterday morning, then all of a sudden, Michigan 323 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: does have something to now act on. 324 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: What do we think of John Bacon using his middle 325 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: initial and John U. Bacon. 326 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: It's a memorable name, it's a memorable byline. 327 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Johnny Bacon is a memorable I'm saying 328 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: I think Johnny Bacon might have been better. But anyway, 329 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: I think. 330 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: If your last name's Bacon and your first name is John, 331 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: you have to go Johnny Bacon. Don't you put it 332 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: on the pall Tayler, Yeah, your. 333 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: First name's John and your last names and do you 334 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: have to go. 335 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: If your last name is Bacon and your first name 336 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: is John, do you have to go Johnny Bacon? 337 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: John you Bacon. It's just a little rough on the mouth. 338 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't just fly out. 339 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: Yes, you have to give a pause there, Well is 340 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: he What do you make of what Taylor just told 341 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: us there? 342 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: Because this goes back to the summer. 343 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: All right, they were investigating this internally in the summer, 344 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: and we don't have a firing here until right before 345 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: the new year. 346 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: So it's basically what I was saying earlier. It's just 347 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: like Michigan is just like, well, let's see because if 348 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: he's a really good coach and we beat Ohio State 349 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: and we get to the playoff, maybe we'll just sweep 350 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: this under the rook and then it turns out, oh no, 351 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: none of those things happened. Sorry, complete violation of our policy. 352 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: You got to get out of here. 353 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Are you making the allegation that if Michigan beats Ohio 354 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: State is playing in the college football Playoff? 355 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: Sheroon Moore is still the head coach today. 356 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: If this was something that was rumored in the summer, 357 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: We're not talking like late October. 358 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: We're talking the entire season. 359 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I'm going to go ahead and 360 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: put that out there. 361 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: Just to your earlier point about what it's like the 362 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: fall from grace. I'm sorry, Mikey. I'll get to you 363 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: in just a second. That fall from grace. This is 364 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: not just a fall from grace. This is a fall 365 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: from grace. Where this guy is not coming back from 366 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: it period, end of discussion, career over, money gone, marriage 367 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: probably over, and I cannot imagine what that must feel 368 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: like in the moment for Charon Moore. I'm not trying 369 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: to make him a sympathetic figure at all. I'm just saying, 370 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: there is no telling what any of us would do 371 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: in that moment. Have we gone through the same situation. 372 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: And people will say, well, we put himself in that situation. 373 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: You're one thousand percent correct, get it, And whatever comes 374 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: his way if he did some of these things, if 375 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: he broke into a house, if he threatened to kill 376 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: if he threaten to kill himself, he deserves it. Okay, 377 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make a figure. I'm just trying 378 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: to say that people who are I'm just trying to 379 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: make the point that people who are going to make 380 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: who are going to cast judgments today and criticize Sharon Moore, 381 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: you have every right to do it, but you also have. 382 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: No idea how you would respond in a similar situation. 383 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: That's all I was just saying that the that to me, 384 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: like the affair, I don't think would have ended his career. 385 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 3: I think he could have been you know a coordinator 386 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: somewhere and just kind of re just let things settle down. 387 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: But I think the aftermath, I think the the arrest 388 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: and everything else, I think that's going to be where 389 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 3: it's just like, maybe we should stay away from this person. 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, to the story to a whole new level. Mikey, 391 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: you were gonna say, I'm sorry I cut you off. 392 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 6: That's okay, you cut me off like three times. But 393 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 6: that's cool. 394 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: Well this he coming off with it. He's not cool 395 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: with it at all. 396 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 6: I'm not That's why I said it that way. 397 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: And I'm okay with him not being cool with it 398 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: because I shouldn't have done it to him, but I 399 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: did anyone stuff. 400 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 6: I'll be the first to raise my hand and say 401 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 6: when when the. 402 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: Initial report came out, my immediate thought was if he 403 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 5: beats Ohio State, we're not hearing about this. But there's 404 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 5: more and more details come out, you go, yeah, okay, no, 405 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: this is this is this is a thing. This is 406 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 5: more than just he wasn't the football coach and we 407 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 5: were looking for a way out and the only other 408 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 5: the the closest comparison I can come to to what 409 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: we are getting from Cheril Moore is Bobby Petrino back 410 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 5: when he had the neck brace and it was all 411 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 5: this talk of oh, he got into a car accident. Wait, no, 412 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: he didn't get into a car accident. Who was with him? 413 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 5: And all this. 414 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 6: It's one of those where it. 415 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 5: Feels like almost the lies and the cover ups are 416 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 5: what do you win? 417 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: More so than the affair. 418 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: It seems like Michigan was trying to get ahead of 419 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: a story that was possibly going to come out very 420 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: very soon. 421 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: Is that fair? Is he? 422 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: That? 423 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: Is that seen? Were they trying to get ahead of it? 424 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: Or well, you ask yourself why now? 425 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: If they were investigating this back in the summer, you 426 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: must ask yourself, okay, so why now? 427 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: What happened between the summer and now? 428 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: For them to decide and you might say they lost 429 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: to Ohio State, for them to decide the part ways 430 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: with youraron more, that's all it could have. 431 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it could have. It could have been a 432 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: lot of things. 433 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: It could have been early in the season where they're 434 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: just like, hey, we know about this, you know, stop 435 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: it or else, and then he didn't, and then it 436 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 3: was a situation okay, now you're gone. Have been a 437 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: lot of things, but I think if you are Michigan, 438 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: I think, especially in today's climate, especially when you know 439 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 3: you feel like everything eventually will get out, you should 440 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: just be as transparent as possible. And yes, if it 441 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 3: was a pre season situation, if it wasn't handled, nipped 442 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: in the butter or whatever by September, I would have said, 443 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: all right, I think it's time now, because we can't 444 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: keep burying ourselves. And then and then what happens, right, 445 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: what if they were really good? What if they did 446 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: surprisingly win the Big Ten and make the playoff, and 447 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: then the reporter just started saying, hey, you've known about 448 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: this since September or since August? 449 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: What the hell? So? I don't think they've gotten ahead 450 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: of it. 451 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 3: In fact, I think they probably got lucky that they 452 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: didn't have a lot more aggressive reporters in the area. 453 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: From a football perspective, if you're Michigan and Sharon Moore 454 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 4: does give you the pathway to fire him with cause 455 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: like that Michigan job is probably we talked about how 456 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: great the LSU job is. That Michigan job is without 457 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 4: question a top ten job and off college football, and 458 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 4: now it's like their chance to get their next. 459 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: Guy, which makes it feel like that exactly what we 460 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: just said. They're just like, hey, let's give it a second. 461 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: Maybe we won't need because again, for them, worst case scenario, 462 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: he's involved in a scandal, we get to fire him 463 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: for cause, don't have to pay all that money. Can 464 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: hire whoever the hell else we want, but let's make 465 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: sure he's not great first. 466 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Why couldn't you fire him with calls two weeks ago, 467 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: three weeks ago if you started investigating so. 468 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: You knew you weren't getting it once you knew you 469 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: weren't in the mix for the playoff? 470 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean, listen, that's it's a leap, 471 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: and I'm certain a lot of people are making that 472 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: leap today. But I'm also wondering the speculation they had 473 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: more information yesterday or in the days leading up to 474 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: what happened yesterday, and everything that happened after the fact 475 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: has nothing to do. 476 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: That's not what Michigan was investigating. They had no. 477 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Idea that that was going to be his reaction to 478 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Michigan firing him. But I do wonder is it as 479 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: simple as we had a chance to get rid of 480 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: our head coach. 481 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: This is a plush jobs job. 482 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: I would say why not do it two weeks ago 483 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: when a lot of the coaches were available, so or 484 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: and I think this is probably where it's at. Michigan 485 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: was armed with new information and they were left with 486 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: no choice but to release and fire sh run more. 487 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 2: That would be my best guess. So it's going to 488 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: be interesting. 489 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I do wonder who Michigan because this is Taylor's right, 490 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: This is a top ten job in America. 491 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: This job I would like. 492 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh got himself back to the NFL, won a 493 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: national championship, laid a foundation, laid the groundwork. It's a 494 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: storied football program. There are going to be a lot 495 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: of people, including NFL coaches, who are going to be 496 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: interested in being the next head coach at Michigan. 497 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: See a lot of Michigan alums who are probably going 498 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 3: to be very vocal about this, like Tom Brady, Like 499 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: Tom Bradys. 500 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: A coach, listen to Brady ever wanted to listen. If 501 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: he ever fancied himself a head coach, this would be 502 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the time to do it, because is your university. It's 503 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: desperate times, right, They're up against it. They need someone 504 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: they need to bounce back. It needs to look good 505 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: when they do bounce back. This is a terrible story 506 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: that's only getting worse. And how can you bounce back 507 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: any better than having Tom Brady on your sidelines in 508 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: the quarter view? 509 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 6: Can you call games for Fox while coaching Michigan and 510 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 6: owning same time? Because if anybody could. 511 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: TV twelve method, it would make the entire thing go away. Right, Hey, 512 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: look there's Brady. You'd stop talking about your own work. 513 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 4: I consider myself a college football matchmaker of sorts, because, uh, 514 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: I think I am college football. I I told everybody 515 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: from the Star, Brian Kelly else, you made no sense. 516 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: Time out You college is Taylor college football. I think 517 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: I am college football. Is one of the grandest takes 518 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. 519 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 2: Yes, in the preseason college football. 520 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: In the preseason, I said Fernanda Mendoza was going to 521 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: be a great quarterback. I told, I told everybody that 522 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: would listen. Hey, Drew Aller, Kate Klubnick, these guys stink. 523 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: Stop talking about them. 524 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: He did. What did you say about Belichick when he 525 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: got Yes, That's. 526 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 4: Where I'm gonna go. I wanted John Somemrall, I said 527 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: I wanted. 528 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: John Some did say that in fairness day, and he said, 529 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: John Summerroll College. 530 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: I remember it like it was yesterday. Kept asking who. 531 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: So I have my next guy who has to look 532 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: at it himself in the mirror and just admit he's 533 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: not the fit at this school and Michigan is a 534 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: lot better fit for him. Caitlin de Boor, lose to 535 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 4: Oklahoma in the first round of the playoffs, get on 536 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: the first flight to ann Arbor. You're not cut out 537 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 4: for the SEC, buddy, I'm telling you that right now. 538 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: What if his kids don't want to lose that game? 539 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 6: I mean, what if you're gonna anyway? 540 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: That cut out for the SEC? The Big ten is 541 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: right right there. 542 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: It'd be great if Kaylin de Bora all of a 543 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: sudden announces like half his starting defenses out wide receivers 544 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: are missing, just because he wants to type the game 545 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: so we can get himself back to Michigan. 546 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: I am telling you there are a ton of coaches. 547 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Out there have already taken new jobs who regret taking 548 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: those jobs because they would have had a chance of. 549 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: Being the Michigan head coach. 550 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, of course, yeah, yeah. 551 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: If only they'd heard the scuttle. But that's been going 552 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: on for months at Michigan. Somebody get a reporter to Michigan. 553 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 3: I'm sorry I shouldn't say that, So I for. 554 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: Being honest here. I think I meant to say I 555 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: know college football, and then I just. 556 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: Like college football. 557 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: I like you leaning into that I am college football. 558 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 6: By the way, name of the episode. 559 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: What I am college football? Yes, I think he meant 560 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: it as I am college football. I do. He certainly 561 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: defended himself. 562 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean there's not very many other in 563 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: the game that have played it. 564 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: Let's say, if we were to deem a person in 565 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: college for mccollins, who would it be? 566 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Because I feel like Kirk herbs reprobably fancies himself. 567 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: He started doing NFL games. He's just football. He's not. 568 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: What you think Tebow fancies himself as college football. 569 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I don't think No, I think he is Jesus. I 570 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: think he fancies himself as the new Jesus. 571 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Do you think Pat McAfee fancies himself as college football? 572 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: No, No, he's entertainer. 573 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: He's Rhys Davis college football. No, too wide, to too 574 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: large a resume, right. 575 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: Lee Corso college football closer. 576 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I'd be happier with Corso as college football than you. 577 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: That's Corso retired. Though Corso's done, somebody took it over. 578 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: We didn't notice. We didn't notice, but Taylor was back 579 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: there saying, give. 580 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 2: Me those rains. Finally Corso's out. Now I'm college football. 581 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: You didn't notice him because he was wearing a big 582 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: giant mascot head and he just tried the reins right 583 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: from It's so great? 584 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: So what do you is he What do you imagine? 585 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: What do you imagine going on right now? 586 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: Like, so I think Michigan they do their diligence, they 587 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: fire him, and no one expects what happens next, And 588 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: so what do you think is happening right now inside 589 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the athletic program at the University of Michigan, Because this 590 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: has become a scary story. 591 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: This is like, hey, listen, how did an affair? We 592 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: fire you? 593 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: The next step on this is something that no one, 594 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: not even the people at Michigan could foresee, and so 595 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: it has to be jarring up there right like no 596 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: one expects him. 597 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 2: To do what he actually did allegedly. You know, yeah, no, 598 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 2: I was imagining we were going to move on to 599 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: another subject. 600 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Half five burning NBA questions, But I want to stay 601 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: here because I think it's a fascinating consent on fire. 602 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: What do I imagine going on in that? I mean, look, 603 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 3: I think they're all in damage control. I think it 604 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: is Hey, let's establish what the rules are again because 605 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: this can't happen again. And I think that they are 606 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean probably low key. I didn't about a new 607 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: college head coach. 608 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what the fuck the school was investigating 609 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: when the guy gave her a fifty five percent raise 610 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: out of nowhere and no one thought, hey, red flags 611 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: beat Ohio State. 612 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 4: So I think the the athletic director at Michigan right 613 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: now is just thinking, like, can somebody tell Brian Kelly 614 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: to please stop calling? 615 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: Seriously? 616 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: He keeps working out these Michigan accents. I don't really 617 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: know if it's if it really works. 618 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: I don't love Brian Kelly. 619 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: Do you have Brian Kelly parked right outside of the 620 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Michigan Athletic Department? 621 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 2: Is that right now? Climbing over and over again. 622 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: He's circling it like sharks right now? 623 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh, so he's not parked, he's just driving around. Yeah, 624 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: he can't stay still, So what are you doing? You 625 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: drive around? 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Is he? 660 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: I do have five burning NBA questions for you if 661 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: you uh, if you're interested, I'll do it next week 662 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: on a Friday with a joint. 663 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so okay, So this week you're sober? No, 664 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: it's just Thursday. 665 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready? Is it? I think so? 666 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm burning NBA questions as the man the NBA Cup. 667 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm over it. The heater are out. 668 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: It's really getting I mean, we're getting to the good parts. 669 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm with Francesa. The Cup is ridiculous. That was the 670 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: most predictable. Friends, that's opinion of all time. That in 671 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: college sports is dead. 672 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: He's right. 673 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? College football? 674 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: He can't talk now, he's dead. 675 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Princesses said, your sport is dead. You might be college football. 676 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: He's sports. Anyway, here we go. Is he five burning NBA. 677 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Questions on a Thursday Joe Missoula Coach of the Year. 678 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 6: Maybe? 679 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: No. 680 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: It is pretty funny that I was reading clips about 681 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: them and how they're just doing the same thing that 682 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 3: they did with Jason Tatum, which has just launch a 683 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 3: bunch of threes and it's just not a whole lot 684 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: of fun to look at. 685 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: But they've got some good players. 686 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Man, Derek White, I think is just one of the 687 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: most if not the most underrated player in the league. 688 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 3: And obviously Jalen Brown is still out there taking a 689 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: bunch of shots. Missoula should be credited for what he's 690 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 3: doing there. But to be honest, when you look at 691 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, you know the Heat have fallen off, 692 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: the Raptors seem to have fallen off a little bit. 693 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: It's basically been a two team race up there with 694 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: Detroit and New York. So Boston hanging in a team 695 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 3: that knows how to win not too shocking. I don't 696 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: know if they can still stay in the top six, 697 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: but if they stay healthy, they got a pretty good chance. 698 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: So I to to be fifteen to nine, win five straight, 699 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: be third in the Eastern Conference without Jason Tatum is 700 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: pretty impressive, right, I mean. 701 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: It is, And I think, you know, Joe Mizzoula is 702 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: just probably the most interesting coach in the league, and 703 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: I think for him to win Coach of the Year, 704 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: I think people would vote for it just for the 705 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: press conference. 706 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: By the way, you think Ruden is poking around Michigan 707 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: college football? 708 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's where you want to go from this 709 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 3: scandal to another scandal. I don't know, right, it's not 710 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: Tom Brady, You are right, somebody cleaner. 711 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: Here we go. 712 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: NBA burning question number two. Lakers worse with Lebron. 713 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't know if they're worse 714 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: with Lebron overall. Their defense sucks. Their defense with Lebron 715 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 3: is terrible. Like I did not have the whimby list 716 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 3: Spurs just getting every shot they wanted in that first 717 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: half last night, and I think that's what basically they 718 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: said after the game is like, listen, I don't really 719 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 3: care about offense. We've got to figure out this defense now. 720 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: It ended up being a little bit better because the 721 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: Spurs shot fifty percent for the game, But Lakers defense 722 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: is bad with Lebron out there. Lebron's old Austin Reeves 723 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 3: is a target. Luka Doncic is a target like DeAndre 724 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 3: Ayton is not exactly a defensive stalwart. So it's a 725 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: lot pressure on whoever they have as defensive you know, 726 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: specialists on that team. Because those four names I just 727 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: gave you, other teams are looking at and saying, yeah, 728 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 3: we can eat them up. 729 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: Yep. Question number three New York Knicks a Yannis away. 730 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: I gotta can I pepper you a little bit with this, Taylor, 731 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: because I was giving you a hard time earlier in 732 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: the season, just because the Heat were on a little 733 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: bit of a streak. But I do believe the Knicks 734 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: are one of the three best teams in the Eastern Conference. 735 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 3: But I somehow in the same breath, don't believe they're 736 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: going to be better than last year. And if you 737 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 3: look at Karl Anthony Towns, Taylor, yes or no, Karl 738 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: Anthony Towns is the player that can be the biggest 739 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: difference from conference champion to I'm sorry, from conference championship 740 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: appearance to NBA Finals appearance. It's he the biggest difference, 741 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: the biggest leap the Knicks have to make. His performance 742 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: in the playoffs. 743 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, just because it feels like you could count on 744 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson and we really haven't seen Kat turn that 745 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 4: switch on for a sustained period of time. 746 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 2: Well, he's been good, he just hasn't been consistent. That's 747 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: all right, right. 748 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 3: Right, He's he can have all good game and then 749 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: I'll have two stinkers and it's just not good enough. Now, 750 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: if you look at Karl Anthony Towns this season, yeah, 751 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 3: the Knicks have been doing well, He's not been doing 752 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: so hot like he's had. Actually, he's having actually, in 753 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 3: terms of numbers, one of the worst seasons of his career. 754 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: The twenty two Hang on me, look at this real quick. 755 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: The twenty two points a game is not the worst 756 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: like He's had a couple of seasons lower, but the 757 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 3: forty six percent shooting, that's the lowest of his career. 758 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: The three point shooting thirty five percent, lowest since his 759 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: rookie year. You know, say what you will about other 760 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 3: parts of his game. His rebounds are there or whatever. 761 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 3: Never really been a shot blocker. He needs to be 762 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: more efficient. And if he's not more efficient, then I 763 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: don't think they're going to be better than they. 764 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: Were last year. 765 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: So I'm just curious as a Knicks fan, if you 766 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 3: are bought in or if it's just a matter of 767 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: that he's not that good, we're gonna take it. 768 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: So I'm kind of bought in, and I just seeing 769 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: what Mike Brown could do with this core once they 770 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 4: get to the playoffs. That's why I wasn't too worried 771 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: about when you're saying the Miami heater coming. I look 772 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: at life through the windshield, not the rear view mirror, 773 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: and that and the heater is so far behind us 774 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 4: right now, it's like, oh, well, what am I Tyler 775 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: Herroes back, big whoop? 776 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: Mike Brown is coaching the Knicks. 777 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: What you remember Tom Thibodau, right, what happened to Thibbs, 778 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: he's hating on the Knicks. 779 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: I know that, huh. 780 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: But the Knicks defense has gotten better last few games. 781 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: Is it sustainable? 782 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 2: Is it? You know? Again? 783 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 3: Can you rely on Karl Anthony Towns? Are Michale Bridges 784 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 3: and ogn and Obi like? Are they going to be 785 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: able to play this good last season? 786 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 2: Long? We'll see, But I think. 787 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you off because it was a simple question. 788 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: Are the Knicks of Giannis away? I mean yes? 789 00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: Or no? 790 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: I mean yes, They'll never They're in that position where 791 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 3: they'll never get Yannis with what they have to offer 792 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: unless Milwaukee is sold. 793 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: On Karl Anthony Towns. And I think that ship has sailed. 794 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 3: Nobody's going to be sold on centerpiece Carl Anthony Towns anymore. 795 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: Well, the Knicks were sold on it. 796 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: Well, Jaylen Browns there sent piece. He was the second 797 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 3: piece and if you send him to Milwaukee, he will 798 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 3: be the first piece again. 799 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: Question number four here Oklahoma City Thunder or the field. 800 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Thunder because it's ridiculous. Like I will 801 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 3: say this though they have an achilles heel that I 802 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: think there's one team that's ready to pounce and take 803 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 3: over and that's the Houston Rockets. Like, not only do 804 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: the Rockets have I do, I do, and they continue 805 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: to prove to me that there's a reason for it. 806 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: They have the size that's going to disrupt Oklahoma City. 807 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: That's what they've had an issue with over the last 808 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: two years. Now, granted last year some of that was 809 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 3: because chet Holmegren was out for a decent amount of 810 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: time in the regular season, but legitimate thick dudes always 811 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: they have a problem with. And Steven Adams and Alprin 812 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 3: Shangoun might be the best duo of thick dudes in 813 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: the league. And they're the best rebounding team in the league, 814 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: and they slow the game down, and they have an 815 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: individual defender and the men Thompson who can probably do 816 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: as good a job as anybody else on Shae Gilders 817 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 3: Alexander So another year of experience with Kevin Durant to 818 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: sort of stabilize your half court game. I think Houston's 819 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: built to beat okay See. Not saying they will, but 820 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: they are built to beat okay See. And if you 821 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 3: look at the Golden State season where they went seventy 822 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 3: three and nine, all it took was one sweat wet 823 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: spot on the floor in Houston for Steph Curry to 824 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 3: injure his knee and then all of a sudden, he's 825 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 3: playing the rest of the playoffs not one hundred percent. 826 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: If that happens to Shay, there isn't a team maybe 827 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 3: maybe the Lakers, I don't know. There isn't a team 828 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 3: that's so dependent on their number one guy as Shay 829 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 3: Guilders Alexander, and so if he is not one hundred percent, 830 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: that's all it takes for them to go from an 831 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: unstoppable force to just another team in the playoffs. 832 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 4: Stue twenty five games into the season on FanDuel NBA 833 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 4: Finals Odds, the Thunder plus one ten. 834 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that has to be a record. I mean, 835 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: they're essentially a lock. 836 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 3: It's crazy too, because it feels like the rest of 837 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 3: the league rather like is looking at it and saying, 838 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 3: let's make sure that doesn't happen. And I think that's 839 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: what I'm not saying. That there's GM saying, oh, let's 840 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: get Yannis to a place where they can compete with 841 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 3: the Thunder. But I think everybody in the league is 842 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: probably like, it's not bad that the Thunder of this 843 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: good We just love for them to have some competition. 844 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: So maybe if Yannis goes here, maybe if John Morant 845 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 3: goes there, maybe there'll be something to do, something someone 846 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: with them to compete. 847 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 2: But right now it does not look good. 848 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: I heard Kendrick Perkins last night on Sports Center with 849 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: Scott Van Pelt say that shake Gilgess. 850 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 2: Alexander over the last year and a. 851 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: Half has been he's been Michael Jordan and Scott had 852 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: the same reaction that I did. K Perk, do me 853 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: a favor. Slow down. He's not even Kobe Bryant. I mean, 854 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: he's not even Larry Bird. He hasn't reached Magic Johnson 855 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: level yet, and we're already putting him in Michael Jordan's category. 856 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: He won one championship, one okay, five to go really 857 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: eight my personal record book. 858 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: But why are we doing that? 859 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: Why do we have to go straight from one title 860 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: best player. 861 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 2: In the Land, best player in the land. 862 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: Why do they call it the land best player, best 863 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: player in the world over the last year and a half. 864 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: Why do we have to go from that to Michael Jordan? 865 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: There are a few stops along the way, is he 866 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah, I think where you are naturally thinking. 867 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, he's not there yet, He'll never be 868 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: there where. I think that perk is saying, if he 869 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 3: continues this path, he is on that path. 870 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Because what if I told you then shake goies. 871 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 3: Alexander this year is averaging thirty two point six points 872 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: on fifty six percent shooting. 873 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: I know, and forty did that. 874 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 3: No, and Michael never did that. He shot three fifty 875 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 3: four in his first MVP season and everybody was like, 876 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 3: this man is a god. 877 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: Shay is doing better than that. You're right, Michael never 878 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 2: did that. He had a championship and in the back pocket, 879 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 2: but Michael never did that. You're right. 880 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: You know what he did. He dunked. You know what 881 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: else he did. He went back to back three peats. 882 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: You know what else he did. He would have won 883 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: eighth street NBA titles had he not taken two years 884 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: off because the NBA forced him to do it. You 885 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: know what else he did, He won a national championship 886 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: in college. 887 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the goat. I mean seriously, so, the 888 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: only way Shaye, the only way Shaye. 889 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 3: Can even compare in your record book is to win 890 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 3: the next seven titles straight, right, because in your record book. 891 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: Brand donks yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, six 892 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: titles while dunking. 893 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 2: That's all right. 894 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 6: Go back to college and win one, two, and. 895 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: Go back to college and win a national championship. 896 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep while hitting a buzzer beater. 897 00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 898 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: More right, dream team Yep. He plays for Canada, win 899 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: a gold medal. Oh well, he's never gonna win one. 900 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 6: I mean, win one with Canada. That should take away too. 901 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: He's the greatest player in the land. Does that include 902 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 2: Canada or. 903 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: Well no, Actually, if you're in the land, I can't 904 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: believe I said that. If you win one with Canada, 905 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: I might be willing to have at least the Larry 906 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Bird conversation. 907 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,240 Speaker 2: All right, he might not even be the best player 908 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: west of the Mississippi. He might not be the best 909 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: player in that Organization's his theory might not be top two. 910 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 2: K Burk got caught out. Listen, I've been there. He 911 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: got caught up in the moment. All right, he did 912 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: get Careada, But he doesn't a lot of question. 913 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: What's that He doesn't really have a whole lot of 914 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: hangtime perke and caught up in the air. 915 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: It is not really thing that he does. It was 916 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: where Scott van Pelt had this reaction. 917 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: Like, how dare you compare him to Michael Jordan? And 918 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: then he did and it made sense. And then Scott 919 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 1: vam pelp wanted to say what I would have said, 920 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: which is, do me a favorite sprinkle and a dunk 921 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: because he gave all those shooting percent it is out. 922 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: What's his dunk percentage? 923 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you still watch Sports Center. Thanks, somebody 924 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: has to. 925 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: That's how I get caught up on sports question number 926 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: five Hooper fleg bufs. 927 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 3: That question keeps getting funnier because he keeps getting better 928 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 3: and better. But there is this funny there's this fun 929 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 3: conversation around Dallas now, which I know it's not shocking 930 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: to everybody now that Nico has been fired, but is Anthony. 931 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: Davis going to get traded? If Anthony Davis gets traded, 932 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 2: does that do anything for you? Stud? Does he like nothing? Right? 933 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: Like the second he got there and then this year 934 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: was starting the year hurt and then you're showing images 935 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 3: of him and he just looks huge, and I'm just 936 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: like everybody could have predicted that this was the path 937 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: that was this is what's going to happen, and I 938 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: just I mean, look, he could go to a handful 939 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 3: of teams and make a huge difference, But Anthony Davis 940 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 3: is I think we're past the point where Anthony Davis 941 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: is considered somebody that you can rely on for an 942 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 3: organization to be your top two guy. 943 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 2: Period. Yes, I think. 944 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: He's a nice piece to a championship team now if 945 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 3: you can get him. 946 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 2: Is there a team that he could help. 947 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: Help win an NBA He did it with the Lakers, 948 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: I mean, to his credit, but I'm wondering if there's 949 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: another team out there that he could help. 950 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: I'll tell you would not want him as a New 951 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: York Nick Anthony Davis. 952 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 4: No, no, No. 953 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 3: The Detroit Pistons could use a half court sort of, 954 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 3: you know, guy down low that they could rely on. 955 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 3: If you can get him without having to trade Jalen Duran, 956 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: I would take them. I would take him. It's always 957 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: interesting to consider the Golden State Warriors in any trade, right, 958 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 3: they need to do something. I don't think a lot 959 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 3: of people think, even with a healthy staff, that they're 960 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: a contender. I don't think anybody wants Draymond green back, 961 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 3: but they might be dangling Draymond Green for an Anthony Davis, 962 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: that would be interesting. And then the only other place 963 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 3: that I would consider him to be an immediate like 964 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: game changer, yeah, would be san Antonio because if you 965 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 3: you've got him down low, and you've got Wemby effectively 966 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 3: like roaming, and just you got a second shot blocker. 967 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 3: I don't know who scores against san Antonio. So I'd 968 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 3: say those three teams are probably like, huh, Anthony Davis 969 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: might be playing in you know, the final four of 970 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 3: the NBA. 971 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: If he's on one of those three teams. 972 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 1: What would san Antonio will have to give up in 973 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: in terms of getting Anthony Davis? Because I agree with you, 974 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: that's the team right there. Like if Wemby and Anthony Davis. 975 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: Now it's a big if, but if they could stay healthy, 976 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 1: that would, at least for me, catapult them to one 977 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: of the you know, one of four teams that could 978 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: win an NBA championship this year. 979 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, who would they have to give up? 980 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 3: They probably have to give up you know, one or 981 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 3: two of their maybe a Stefan Castle. They probably you know, 982 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 3: want to keep their draft pick from last year, Dylan Harper. 983 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 3: But I think they've got the thing about the Spurs 984 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 3: is they've got young pieces that other teams can be, 985 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 3: can fall in love with easily and could consider, you know. 986 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: And plus you're talking about Anthony Davis here like you're 987 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 3: not giving up the farm to catch him. He's no 988 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: longer somebody that attract that large of a trade. 989 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: Packet, is he? 990 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: All I'm saying with SGA in the comparisons to Michael 991 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: Jordan just stopped doing it, okay, because two years ago 992 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 1: it was Anthony Edwards that was he was Michael Jordan 993 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: and he's he stinks no