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Speaker 2: You know bt know how it goes, shout out oct
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Speaker 4: Oh, you can't stand on the homes see. I already
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Speaker 6: The name you know bt cet where that the money
Speaker 6: in the building.
Speaker 1: Got them nails manicured, shining.
Speaker 2: What's up, sir, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm great, I'm I'm I'm a big fan.
Speaker 2: Man, thank you.
Speaker 4: I was telling my co host my AKA my friends.
Speaker 4: I was just driving one day and of course I
Speaker 4: knew you did music, but and I saw that you
Speaker 4: did music. I was driving listening to Cyrus x Sam
Speaker 4: and I was like, damn, this is so hard as fun,
Speaker 4: I said. I looked down. I said that this is
Speaker 4: the money WHOA downloaded it added to my playlist. Been
Speaker 4: a fan ever since.
Speaker 2: Man, I love that man. I appreciate it. M your
Speaker 2: serf for real?
Speaker 6: You ready out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take it back to the beginning the money.
Speaker 1: You know, this is your first time on the platform
Speaker 1: on ball alert. Uh you know, can you take us
Speaker 1: back to you know how the money grew up the
Speaker 1: makings of who you are. Now we've seen you grow
Speaker 1: up on TV. But you know that's the production aspect
Speaker 1: of it, you know. But you you mentioned Riverdale many
Speaker 1: times I heard throughout all most of your albums, So
Speaker 1: let us know about the Dale a little bit.
Speaker 2: So I stayed with my mother and stayed with my mother.
Speaker 2: Most people don't know that we got different moms. So
Speaker 2: me and Messiah got the same Momssida as my older brother.
Speaker 2: Uh so boom, we both we both lived with her,
Speaker 2: and uh we did stand Riverdale for a while.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I didn't know you had the
Speaker 4: same mom.
Speaker 2: Us that it turned out to be a good balance.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't looking at it like that at the time.
Speaker 2: But so you could imagine, uh, going from this type
Speaker 2: of situation which wasn't like bad, Like I didn't look
Speaker 2: around like, man, we need to this is crazy. I
Speaker 2: wasn't like that. But it's just like when you see
Speaker 2: something else that's uh just like totally opposite of that.
Speaker 2: It's like it make you you, you make you feel weird.
Speaker 6: What do you what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Like your dad like your dad's living arrangements and then you're.
Speaker 2: Right and it's not like a like a bad thing.
Speaker 2: It's just like I'm thinking about, dang, how does my
Speaker 2: mom feel like going on trips and stuff? And she's
Speaker 2: at the house and uh, going over here. Uh we
Speaker 2: come back with closed toys. Uh, just whatever we asked
Speaker 2: for for real, and uh, that's it, Just wondering how
Speaker 2: she feel.
Speaker 4: But she was very thoughtful of you that way too.
Speaker 4: Most kids would be like, man, I'm good, I'm.
Speaker 6: Living everybody like I'm going to my daddy house.
Speaker 1: That's that that water sign you No, I'm gonna cancer though?
Speaker 4: What was that.
Speaker 2: Crying?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: You you feel the emotions. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You feel for your family. My brother's a pis, so
Speaker 1: you know he has a lot of emotions, and y'all
Speaker 1: are the most emotional sign.
Speaker 6: Of the whole.
Speaker 1: Like we not yeah, but you know, were you her
Speaker 1: only kids? You and Messia or did she.
Speaker 2: Have were but at the time we would, but now
Speaker 2: we got a sister. Okay, so she got another one.
Speaker 1: So you know, when you came back from you know,
Speaker 1: living such a lavish life, like you said, going on
Speaker 1: trips and then you have it to adjust to go
Speaker 1: back home home, was it kind of hard not to
Speaker 1: be like braggadocious or you know, to your friends because
Speaker 1: I know they're looking at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I probably started off being braggadocia because I
Speaker 2: didn't understand it just yet. But then I realized, Man,
Speaker 2: it's not that's not cool coming back telling everybody all
Speaker 2: this good so I started keeping it to myself. So
Speaker 2: you know how you might come back from a from
Speaker 2: spring break or holiday, breaking the teacher to tell everybody
Speaker 2: what you did over holiday. I just started just keeping
Speaker 2: it simple. Just was chilling.
Speaker 1: But when they saw you on TV, that's.
Speaker 2: When it took it to another level.
Speaker 4: And what grade or what year was this for you TV?
Speaker 2: I think it might have been fifth grade.
Speaker 4: Wow, damn, that's alloted to handle in fifth grade.
Speaker 3: Man, I couldn't even imagine being on TV in the
Speaker 3: fifth grade and then coming back to school. How was
Speaker 3: that first experience when you first got on TV going
Speaker 3: back into school, going to the fifth grade.
Speaker 2: Of course, everybody see you on TV. But I was
Speaker 2: already cool, like I I've been going to the same
Speaker 2: school since well fourth grade actually, so that was a
Speaker 2: shock to people, but they kind of grew with me.
Speaker 2: It's like I didn't. I didn't pretty much switch schools
Speaker 2: after that. So all my friends was already my friends.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's just and everybody already knew t I was
Speaker 4: your dad obviously.
Speaker 2: Right, they had some people knew, but the TV definitely
Speaker 2: they was like, oh, that's his daddy for real, and
Speaker 2: I just seen you last night. Yeah, but it did
Speaker 2: it give you.
Speaker 1: Cool points that a lot of people want to be
Speaker 1: your friend?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 4: Did you like that though?
Speaker 2: Did you like?
Speaker 4: How did you feel about because I don't think you
Speaker 4: really had a choice, did you Did you have a choice?
Speaker 2: Choice? Yeah? I mean they asked, I mean they asked,
Speaker 2: did we want to do it? And I was like, shoot, yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone had a choice.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: And you're older than Massiah, right.
Speaker 2: He's the oldest thirteen months older than me, I believe.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, were you looking to him a little bit
Speaker 1: for guidance when you were younger?
Speaker 2: I would, it'd be crazy, I said I would, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I think I think I did for sure. That's my
Speaker 2: older brother. I mean I look at I try to
Speaker 2: learn from everybody. I look at my younger siblings too
Speaker 2: for guidance too, because they'll mess around and say something
Speaker 2: too soaking it all up exactly. So, but I definitely
Speaker 2: did look look to him forgottness.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in your first project, I believe you
Speaker 1: mentioned being a rapper and you know, helping your mom
Speaker 1: live a better life for sure? Can you expound on
Speaker 1: that a little bit?
Speaker 2: A better life? I just wanted to match, just wanted
Speaker 2: to match it, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 2: we go on a trip here, we can go on
Speaker 2: a trip here. So that's just what, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about how she may have felt
Speaker 2: because we didn't really had that conversation, and I turned
Speaker 2: to my music. I really just had that conversation in
Speaker 2: my music. But after I guess as she heard the music,
Speaker 2: she had to let me know because she didn't know
Speaker 2: I was thinking like that. She was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't be thinking like that. The money and so, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just that, it's just that it's just making sure
Speaker 2: that is the same thing that we do over here,
Speaker 2: that we're able to do it over here too.
Speaker 4: Now, you said in the music when is when did
Speaker 4: you start playing around with music?
Speaker 2: Nine years old? Nine years old? Pops was locked up.
Speaker 2: It was at the grandma house. My cousins was in
Speaker 2: the studio. So my cousins kind of took over the
Speaker 2: studio at my grandma house. And I was just around
Speaker 2: in the basement just playing. And then one day I
Speaker 2: just sat in the studio and they was playing some beats,
Speaker 2: and then I just told my cousin, I said I
Speaker 2: want to do something, and they all just looked at
Speaker 2: me and they're like, what you talking about? I want
Speaker 2: to do some music. And that's how it started.
Speaker 4: When did you start taking it really seriously though?
Speaker 2: Probably fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 4: Now you really be you really be into your vibe. Now,
Speaker 4: correct me if I'm wrong, Like hear a little.
Speaker 2: J Cole is Jay Cole one of your favorite rappers,
Speaker 2: Jake Cole, Jay z Andre, my father Wayne.
Speaker 6: But yeah, you got you got a lot of favorites.
Speaker 1: What do you feel like when people you know compare
Speaker 1: you to Jake Cole or say, man, he sounds just
Speaker 1: like j Cole.
Speaker 2: I think that's the introduction to That's how everyone basically says,
Speaker 2: this is something new and I like it, like when
Speaker 2: you eat some food and you like it about Oh, this.
Speaker 6: Tastes like woo, so you take it as a compliment.
Speaker 2: Take it as a compliment.
Speaker 6: Have you ever had a conversation with Jake Cole.
Speaker 2: Or not about that? But we was at a camp.
Speaker 2: Who was at a camp recently actually for his album,
Speaker 2: and somebody was looking for I was there. Somebody looking
Speaker 2: for me and thought I was him. He said the money.
Speaker 2: He turned around, he said, nah, it's me.
Speaker 4: You got the dress? What what what made you decide
Speaker 4: to grow dreads locks locks?
Speaker 2: That's a good catch too. I was just in class,
Speaker 2: just twisting my hair. I had a fro at first,
Speaker 2: and I was just in class twisting my hair and
Speaker 2: I just left it.
Speaker 4: That's simple that. There was no nothing behind.
Speaker 2: It, no parting, no getting done, none of it. I
Speaker 2: didn't sit down in my chair. I was just in class,
Speaker 2: probably not paying attention doing this. It's just stayed.
Speaker 1: Well, you're doing inspired your daddy. It looked like because
Speaker 1: he got.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talking about it. He was he was the
Speaker 2: main one talking about.
Speaker 6: What was What was he saying when you when you
Speaker 6: got locks?
Speaker 2: He was just because you know, you got to go
Speaker 2: through that phase. You got to go through the with
Speaker 2: your hair. Don't know whether to drop or stay up.
Speaker 6: It's like it's like a yeah right all over the place.
Speaker 2: So he was talking about it at first. It's just
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. I'm going through that phase and he
Speaker 2: don't understand it, but he trying to. Yeah, he grown
Speaker 2: lots now.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the crazy hair phase. That's what
Speaker 3: I tell people. I said, that's that's really when you're
Speaker 3: gonna test yourself if you really think you got good
Speaker 3: self esteem. When you go through that phase where you
Speaker 3: like your hair, you know, you can't just calm it
Speaker 3: down no more. You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: Being a kid and going through an awkward stage.
Speaker 2: For sure, and you got to just just commit. You
Speaker 2: gotta lock in for sure.
Speaker 1: So you speak a lot in your previous albums about
Speaker 1: going to college. Why did you choose not to do that?
Speaker 2: I already had a team, already had music was my
Speaker 2: main focus, and I knew one I knew if I
Speaker 2: went to college, I wasn't gonna want to do the
Speaker 2: work I was just gonna figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get around doing the work and have someone else do
Speaker 2: it for me too. But I did want to go
Speaker 2: for the experience though. I wanted to go for the
Speaker 2: experience just to be around of people. I guess all
Speaker 2: working towards the same goal. I guess that's always good.
Speaker 2: But already had a team. I already had this music
Speaker 2: thing going, and I'm like, man, and I had like
Speaker 2: a tour opportunity. So I'm like, I'm either go to
Speaker 2: college or either go on this tour. I chose the tour.
Speaker 2: I chose music. So and that was only because it's
Speaker 2: like my team really been waiting on me to get
Speaker 2: out of high school too, because we never really we
Speaker 2: couldn't really do nothing, like until the weekends. We couldn't
Speaker 2: travel on to the weekends, to the studio to the weekend.
Speaker 2: So it was like, yeah, we finna do this full
Speaker 2: force now that we just graduated. So I just chose music.
Speaker 1: How did your parents feel about that choice?
Speaker 2: They didn't care. They didn't care. They wanted on. They
Speaker 2: just wanted me to do something. You know, you just
Speaker 2: want your kids to do something right, have a plan,
Speaker 2: just really be put one hundred and ten percent into it,
Speaker 2: and they seen that it was They seen that I
Speaker 2: was serious, And I guess they always let me rock
Speaker 2: because everything I did I was they seeing it. I
Speaker 2: had like a look in my eyes. I was just
Speaker 2: so serious about it, even like some weird stuff. They
Speaker 2: just they just always let me rock.
Speaker 4: Now, I know we're talking about all this stuff, but
Speaker 4: how was your personal life? Did you have a girlfriend
Speaker 4: at the time or when? At any point?
Speaker 2: Any point?
Speaker 4: Okay, so how do you maintain both?
Speaker 2: Just conversations, I guess conversations, communicating, letting each other know what,
Speaker 2: we let each other know how we want things. And
Speaker 2: I think it's just all a.
Speaker 4: Conversation was very mature. Is the money in a relationship?
Speaker 2: Now? Man, I'm good right now?
Speaker 6: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: That you're open to whatever.
Speaker 3: No, I think that means he's in a relationship. I
Speaker 3: think I think that means he's in a relationship and
Speaker 3: they're good right now?
Speaker 1: Would this be the young lady who likes Hennessy and Crystals?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: That song you on?
Speaker 2: What you talking about? She definitely likes Hanny and Christal.
Speaker 2: You like your song? Yeah? I love that song. That
Speaker 2: song is actually not about a specific incident though. That
Speaker 2: song is really about me saying that I like a
Speaker 2: girl who know how to have fun and like also
Speaker 2: a little spiritual and like she's smart at the same time.
Speaker 2: Hennessy and chrystals. That's what I mean, That's what That's
Speaker 2: what I was thinking when I made it. But it
Speaker 2: turned into someone you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get it. So what so is that
Speaker 1: what you look for in a woman like you said,
Speaker 1: spiritual who has fun too?
Speaker 2: For sure? I like a well rounded person man who.
Speaker 1: Know how to cook rice.
Speaker 2: Okay, now you know what's going on, y'all not even
Speaker 2: catching I'm guessing.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a celebrity cush crush of any gun?
Speaker 2: I like Ericabad Okay, I like.
Speaker 1: For sure, You're I love like and I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought up Sha because I love the production. I can tell,
Speaker 1: like from your first project up into you know, your
Speaker 1: latest project, the the growth and production. I love the
Speaker 1: saxophones and the horns that that that are played softly,
Speaker 1: because at first it was like, you know, it gave
Speaker 1: you know, you had the samples going and it was really,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot going on. But now it's kind
Speaker 1: of more laid back and chill type of thing, like
Speaker 1: how it kind of goes with your flow kind of
Speaker 1: matches that is there was there a method to that.
Speaker 2: Nah, I just think we just grow. I think I
Speaker 2: just allowed myself to just I never felt like I
Speaker 2: mastered a certain sound or a certain uh thing I
Speaker 2: was doing in the studio, so I always was just
Speaker 2: open and just trying new things. And yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think it was played out at all. I just love instruments.
Speaker 2: I love live music. But at the same time, I
Speaker 2: like eight o eights and I just combined it too,
Speaker 2: and I just ran into I ran into and like
Speaker 2: always just been around just dope musicians, people who know
Speaker 2: how to play the guitar, bass, guitar, saxophone, viola, all
Speaker 2: type of stuff. We all just sat in the studio
Speaker 2: and just kept coming back and now we just just
Speaker 2: got a great chemistry.
Speaker 1: And is that one of the advantages of having you know,
Speaker 1: half of you being you know, well off in a
Speaker 1: sense as far as your what your dad provides for you.
Speaker 1: Is that a perk of it, like being able to
Speaker 1: bring in musicians like that versus somebody without the resources
Speaker 1: to kind of you know, make a beat on free
Speaker 1: loops or something, versus you getting like true musicians to
Speaker 1: create a masterpiece. I mean, I'm not, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that's all some people got.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a lot of people need to Weezy
Speaker 2: Fruity Loops. Weezy got a ugly looking you know, we
Speaker 2: got an ugly laptop, and he got Fruity Loops and
Speaker 2: he been on Fredy Loops for since he started, probably
Speaker 2: and Weezy is out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. But it's hard to conduct a big,
Speaker 1: massive sound.
Speaker 2: I know what you're saying, but I just didn't want
Speaker 2: people to get the wrongs.
Speaker 1: No, shout out to Loops.
Speaker 6: Too.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I used to be a reason person, a propeller head,
Speaker 1: but I haven't really done it in a while.
Speaker 2: But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not down.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: The last thing that I really liked was pretty so
Speaker 1: honest Studio one, because it allowed me to you know,
Speaker 1: record live and your mentor just use their stuff and
Speaker 1: like combine the two analog and digital in one.
Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, I see what you're saying, because that
Speaker 2: is difficult to do in fl Most people start, uh
Speaker 2: start to beat the fl and then add instruments on
Speaker 2: some other stuff. Yeah, exactly, But yeah, that is an advantage.
Speaker 2: That is definitely an advantage having a relationship and then
Speaker 2: just people. Sometimes you get genuine people and then sometimes
Speaker 2: you get people with a motive of course, but yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all still end up getting something done. But yeah, that's
Speaker 2: definitely an advantage for sure.
Speaker 6: So you got any dream collapse.
Speaker 2: I know this is just a broad answer, but I
Speaker 2: really want to genuinely work with people who genuinely want
Speaker 2: to work with me. But if I had to say
Speaker 2: some names, it would be, uh, I like Tyler, I
Speaker 2: like Tyler the creative, Tyler the creator talking about Tyler.
Speaker 4: Tyler the water for singer creator too and.
Speaker 2: Cold Cold.
Speaker 4: I definitely want to hear you in Cold for sure.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: I hear him on Sleep It Off for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we get a remix or something he if he
Speaker 2: stumbled across it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I heard he's similar to you, like if
Speaker 4: he if he genuinely likes something, he'll hop on it.
Speaker 4: He doesn't charge for features.
Speaker 2: For sure, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's why we got to put this in the energy
Speaker 3: because because when y'all do hop on a song together,
Speaker 3: you know, magical are you.
Speaker 4: And your dad gonna ever? He's on the Libra project,
Speaker 4: but I want, I want, I want y'all to drop
Speaker 4: off full full project. We get that. I've talked about
Speaker 4: it on our stage.
Speaker 2: I don't see why not. It just gotta happen.
Speaker 4: Mm hm, who got who gotta convince you? And we
Speaker 4: actually we had we had your dad and King on
Speaker 4: the show when he was promoting the movie and I
Speaker 4: said this to him. I was like, Man, the mine's fire.
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of the money man. Oh man too,
Speaker 4: me too?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Now did that kind of hit you left field when
Speaker 4: he started doing music like that, the way that he's
Speaker 4: recording his music.
Speaker 7: Nah, I mean it didn't really hit me left field
Speaker 7: because at first it sucked right at the beginning. It
Speaker 7: was because he wasn't talking about them. But like you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, going to the mall and buying stuff.
Speaker 7: I said, Man, you think you get beat up because
Speaker 7: don't nobody want to hear no rich kid talk about
Speaker 7: all the stuff that they can't do. I said, you
Speaker 7: gotta find ways to relate, you know, find the things,
Speaker 7: Find the things that matter to you that would matter
Speaker 7: to other people, regardless of where they live, how much
Speaker 7: money they got and this stuff like the common you
Speaker 7: gotta you gotta find common ground.
Speaker 6: And uh, he accepted the challenge.
Speaker 7: And when he came back and you know, he was
Speaker 7: kind of you know, talking about being rich on the
Speaker 7: weekends and move and going back.
Speaker 2: To the part mans live with their mama. You know. See.
Speaker 7: I was like that kind of stuff, that's that's what
Speaker 7: you need to talk about. And he just kind of you,
Speaker 7: I guess, you know, through trial and error and and uh,
Speaker 7: taking the lessons that every for every every project that
Speaker 7: he dropped, cause he got like eight projects.
Speaker 2: And he owned them all. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Salute to that guy.
Speaker 7: He has a catalog, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 7: so throughout their catalog he just picked up lessons along
Speaker 7: the way and he applied to to to the music
Speaker 7: he's doing there.
Speaker 4: Could we get a joint project with y'all to oh no,
Speaker 4: they don't.
Speaker 2: Want to do no project with me. He just know
Speaker 2: that at he know that we be feeling like he
Speaker 2: we in hit shadow, and we be we just be
Speaker 2: keeping that in mind. Sometimes he forget about that. He
Speaker 2: don't look at it like that because you're the parent,
Speaker 2: You're looking like you're looking like these are my kids,
Speaker 2: and this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to make life easier. We looking at it like pops.
Speaker 2: We trying to stand on our own trust, stand.
Speaker 6: On business, standing on business, standing on business.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more of The Baller Alert Show.
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Speaker 2: What's going down? This is the money? And I know
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Speaker 4: Show, can we talk about when the Ink drys?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure, EP, it's a EP. Four songs?
Speaker 4: Why why only four songs?
Speaker 2: Only four songs? Because that's a good question, because they
Speaker 2: were trying to make it five and I was so.
Speaker 4: Who's they your team?
Speaker 2: Team?
Speaker 4: Because you're independent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, they was trying to make it five,
Speaker 2: and I was telling everybody, no, it gotta be for
Speaker 2: but for real?
Speaker 4: Why for?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just felt like.
Speaker 4: I felt like naturally funny, by the way.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I felt like five was.
Speaker 1: He's selling.
Speaker 2: I feel like I five wasn't a good number, but
Speaker 2: it really was, no thought for real? Just four songs,
Speaker 2: four songs that I teased on the on the internet
Speaker 2: with some uh visuals to it, and people said they
Speaker 2: wanted it, so just before the holidays get crazy, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to put it out now.
Speaker 1: You know, let's speak on being independent. What are some
Speaker 1: of the advantages that you've seen so far of being independent?
Speaker 2: Being independent? Advantages you could do what you want. Disadvantages
Speaker 2: is that you can do what you want, same thing.
Speaker 6: That's a good answer.
Speaker 2: I think it's a known it's a known play that
Speaker 2: every that every artist, uh that every artist sees so
Speaker 2: they they m hmm, every artist that that take enough
Speaker 2: time to sit back and that's comfortable enough to sit
Speaker 2: back and scope the scene. They see that. Before I
Speaker 2: get a major label, before I before I sign a deal,
Speaker 2: I want to have leverage so I could make a
Speaker 2: good deal or be able to negotiate. If I don't
Speaker 2: have leverage, I won't be able to negotiate a good deal.
Speaker 2: So I don't think people just sit and say I
Speaker 2: want to be independent and that's it. I don't want
Speaker 2: to see no deals.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I think people just want to have the leverage. That's
Speaker 2: how I feel. I want to be able to show
Speaker 2: something to say this is why I want this because
Speaker 2: this is it. You see this right here?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're building leverage.
Speaker 2: Right now for sure.
Speaker 4: Great answer.
Speaker 6: Do you have any labels that reached out to you
Speaker 6: in the past.
Speaker 2: Reached out like said some things, but like presented paperwork
Speaker 2: that's different. So a lot of labels and said some stuff.
Speaker 2: But like I said, man, I'm just just doing my
Speaker 2: own thing, building leverage, just having fun with it for real,
Speaker 2: figuring it out as I go.
Speaker 3: Now, who talked to you about the art of leveraging?
Speaker 3: Because I feel like a lot of artists don't talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, going in these labeled you know, meetings and
Speaker 3: having leverage.
Speaker 2: Experience experience and of course my father, but just being
Speaker 2: in meetings and hearing how conversations go that I would
Speaker 2: say that taught me a lot. But I think more people.
Speaker 2: I think more people got an outdated mind mindset, like
Speaker 2: thinking like if I get a label deal like I
Speaker 2: made it.
Speaker 4: Nah, it's not it really the beginning that Really, I
Speaker 4: do have a question for you. How is you and
Speaker 4: your father's relationship wonderful?
Speaker 2: That's like mine, that's my father, but that's like my
Speaker 2: best friend.
Speaker 6: For real, that's Doe.
Speaker 4: Now, the music only came from him, because I see
Speaker 4: you're you're very well around the artist. To me, did
Speaker 4: you mom do any music? Nah?
Speaker 5: Change it.
Speaker 2: She was joking talking about like she's gonna do a
Speaker 2: verse or something.
Speaker 4: But so no music bones in her body.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 4: So it's just it's just from pops.
Speaker 2: From pops, uh, my sisters, my cousins. No shot of God,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, shot of God because that's the home. Before
Speaker 2: before that he was in the Rich Kids of course. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Orange Girl, my whole family really on that side.
Speaker 2: It's just my mom didn't do no music at all.
Speaker 4: So besides, I don't do music at all.
Speaker 2: Before he didn't do music.
Speaker 4: Now he's doing it now.
Speaker 2: He just started doing music maybe like four years ago.
Speaker 1: He got his own flow, like, he got his own.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he definitely, he definitely has about.
Speaker 1: The sixties or so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the only two that don't is Major in Danger,
Speaker 1: right Major, and they don't do music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because as Air is killing it right now.
Speaker 6: She could sing, Yeah, she could sing sing for sure.
Speaker 4: Now. All right, so you and King got a song
Speaker 4: like like father father like son? Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 2: What is it about?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Now Kings sounded like Gunner a little bit.
Speaker 2: I never heard no one say.
Speaker 6: He definitely has a similarly, you never thought about that.
Speaker 6: I never seen give he give me a little too.
Speaker 4: He gave me a little tune in that and that
Speaker 4: and did y'all record that together?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Not together, but the same night. So I'm at
Speaker 2: the studio. I think I might have been playing cards downstairs,
Speaker 2: and then he came down said I got one for you,
Speaker 2: but I had to finish my card game was getting heated.
Speaker 2: But by the time I went up there, I think
Speaker 2: he left. So then I heard what he what he made,
Speaker 2: and then I just did mind right there.
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if you saw King went and
Speaker 4: he went viral on that show, because that's when h K.
Speaker 4: Dubb And and Pops's I was giving him a compliment
Speaker 4: about his teeth. I said, King, thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 4: I appreciate.
Speaker 6: What the tooth for the matter is. J Ain't got
Speaker 6: over toothbox. She was in there movie with queens and man.
Speaker 1: Now y'all going to far.
Speaker 6: Old old t D Boyd to change.
Speaker 4: That's all right?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 6: How is you and King's relationship same?
Speaker 2: Same man? That's smile a little big bro. Okay, stand
Speaker 2: on business always.
Speaker 4: When when things happened, do you do you call him?
Speaker 4: Because you're big bro? Do you call him and calm
Speaker 4: him down?
Speaker 2: I think he I think he called you. Something happens.
Speaker 2: I think he sits down and expects me to call
Speaker 2: you already know I'm Finn car.
Speaker 1: So we're just say to him this last time after
Speaker 1: the game, just.
Speaker 2: Relax, I said, this too shall pass, you know, so
Speaker 2: just just calm down.
Speaker 1: That's a real TI I answer.
Speaker 6: Shall pass now? Was that strategic to drop the song
Speaker 6: after the incident.
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with that, right there. I
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with that. But I'm just glad
Speaker 2: it's it's it's out m because you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of music stayed in the hard drive and just on
Speaker 2: the flash drive or on a computer. So to see
Speaker 2: a moment like this actually get released, I love it.
Speaker 1: How did your dad feel about the song?
Speaker 2: He loved the song? He loved the song for sure.
Speaker 4: Does he tell you when he doesn't like a song?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't heard that lately, but yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: When I like first started making music, it'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just just keep going.
Speaker 6: He hit you with the joke keep going for Shell,
Speaker 6: keep going man.
Speaker 3: Now, y'all was really expressive in this in this uh,
Speaker 3: the song that y'all just dropped. Do you ever feel
Speaker 3: pressure about, you know, feeling like you have to portray
Speaker 3: yourself a certain way because of who your dad is.
Speaker 2: Pressure. I don't think it's more so pressure right now.
Speaker 2: Maybe it could have been at the beginning. But when
Speaker 2: you just sit back and really understand what's going on,
Speaker 2: understand the position that you're in, and accept the position
Speaker 2: that you're in, it's all easy for because you see
Speaker 2: the bigger picture. You see it from a different perspective.
Speaker 6: Not a way that y'all that y'all grew up.
Speaker 3: Do y'all feel like y'all grew up like from the
Speaker 3: hood based on you know, the living situations.
Speaker 2: That when we say, y'all, you want me to speak
Speaker 2: for everyone, No.
Speaker 6: You don't have to speak for everyone. I was just
Speaker 6: listening to the song and.
Speaker 3: It sounds like, you know, just just from hearing the
Speaker 3: song that you know, King feels a certain type of
Speaker 3: way of like, Okay, y'all think of us pertaining to
Speaker 3: you and him a certain way because of the TV show.
Speaker 6: But this was what really what's going on that you
Speaker 6: know that the public doesn't know.
Speaker 2: I think King. I think everything King is trying to
Speaker 2: say is just coming off. He's using the wrong words.
Speaker 2: I feel like, and I told him this. I feel
Speaker 2: like what he's trying to say is what was on
Speaker 2: TV is not exactly what actually happened. And I think
Speaker 2: he's only trying to say that because people try to
Speaker 2: treat him differently because they think that. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's just out here just saying it out the blue
Speaker 2: because of something. I think like we are living our
Speaker 2: own lives. He got his own thing going on. I
Speaker 2: don't know what be going on when he go outside
Speaker 2: or he was in school. We went to different schools.
Speaker 2: He went to school by himself actually, so yeah, that
Speaker 2: was another thing. So I just think he's using the
Speaker 2: wrong choice of words. I think he's just trying to
Speaker 2: say for the he went to school from his grandma house.
Speaker 2: He stayed at his grandma house.
Speaker 1: Like just to have a more realistic life versus just
Speaker 1: being some rich kid. I wanted to really experience life
Speaker 1: like everybody else, right.
Speaker 2: I think just us as in the black community, I
Speaker 2: feel like we just treat we treat kids differently when
Speaker 2: their parents are success for so I think right now
Speaker 2: we're just witnessing how a family deals with that, how
Speaker 2: a family deals with that backlash. You know, growing up
Speaker 2: in school, we all went to regular schools, public schools.
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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people don't understand the
Speaker 3: fact that, you know, what King was saying is like,
Speaker 3: hey man, we didn't. That TV show is portraying us
Speaker 3: to make it look like we all like one big,
Speaker 3: happy family and we all live in this big house together.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm saying like in a sense of like,
Speaker 3: you know, the public, like everybody thinks that watched y'all
Speaker 3: grow up on TVs that y'all all just lived in
Speaker 3: this one big house together.
Speaker 2: I did think that That's how I thought, definitely saying, nah,
Speaker 2: that's not the case that I think that is what
Speaker 2: he's trying to come across. Definitely trying to get that across,
Speaker 2: but it's I don't think people are gonna understand it
Speaker 2: for real, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the way that it was edited and shot.
Speaker 4: I thought you stayed there. I thought everyone.
Speaker 6: I thought everybody stayed there too.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie there, but I understand though I
Speaker 4: understand now looking back, I was like, Okay, but you know,
Speaker 4: as you're watching, this is a damn you.
Speaker 6: You was like you were a kid.
Speaker 4: I remember, and I feel like I've known you forever,
Speaker 4: but I've only met you like three times. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like for real, for real? So yeah,
Speaker 4: I was just saying, yeah, it's just the way that
Speaker 4: they produced it. But it definitely looked like y'all all
Speaker 4: stated in the house and everyone was all the way happy,
Speaker 4: which I think in all families that's never the case.
Speaker 1: Do you run into that problem the King has when
Speaker 1: people think that you come from this big life.
Speaker 2: I let people rock out, unless I feel like it's
Speaker 2: not healthy for them to think that. Help man, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I let people rock out.
Speaker 2: It's like sometimes they'll be like, yeah, I've seen your mom,
Speaker 2: but I know they not talking about my real mom,
Speaker 2: talking about tiny I don't care to correct you. I
Speaker 2: know what you meant. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 2: I understand they talk about. Yeah, Man, if I see
Speaker 2: you you stay in the house, I know what you're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 6: It's so pretty you just pretty much let people be dumb.
Speaker 2: People go with people go with what they're comfortable going with. Real,
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it's it's like because it's not like wrong,
Speaker 2: like I was there, So it's like Andy is your
Speaker 2: step mom, it's my stepmm. It's like I just don't
Speaker 2: see your mom, all right, I just don't care to Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm not feelings. It's like trying to change someone's religion
Speaker 2: and like in public though, walking and talking and trying to.
Speaker 3: Because it'll be it'll kind of be like you're embarrassing
Speaker 3: them because of something that they right trying to correct.
Speaker 2: I know what you man? Man, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: How was having Tiny as a step mom wonderful?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, wonderful. She was always singing you wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning here, just just harming these melodies
Speaker 2: from downstairs. She walking through the house just.
Speaker 1: Singing, and she seems super supportive.
Speaker 2: Yeah with everyone for sure, both all parents for real.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, she's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back, like when people think that you come
Speaker 1: from a certain background, you have people who try to
Speaker 1: lead you on to you and try to take advantage
Speaker 1: of you and and your your one of your projects,
Speaker 1: uh Amigdalve from Still Got Still Got Love? Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you were talking about someone stealing from you, was that
Speaker 1: a real experience?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes it was, for sure, that was I ain't
Speaker 2: eve never talked about that outside of the music. It's
Speaker 2: like people like it was like they want people though,
Speaker 2: but for sure you'll get you'll get some of that.
Speaker 1: Can you expound on that experience and how what it
Speaker 1: taught you? You know, was it did it heed you
Speaker 1: not to be so care free?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What happened with that?
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I ain't really ever had the
Speaker 2: conversation with myself, so just be here just freestyling. What
Speaker 2: did I take from it? Just to just to roll
Speaker 2: with the punches a little bit better? I think roll
Speaker 2: with the punches were still cool, but it's just we
Speaker 2: not where we was for sure, just rolling with the punches,
Speaker 2: not not getting not getting your hopes up about a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff and about people.
Speaker 1: Did it help you choose your friends going forward more
Speaker 1: wiser or no new friends?
Speaker 2: With you or new friends. I'm I'm a cool person.
Speaker 2: I like learning from people, so I sit in, I'll
Speaker 2: sit and have a conversation with someone. And I'm a
Speaker 2: good I'm a good I got a good vibe detector,
Speaker 2: so I got I can feel people vibes. I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people say that, but I really do.
Speaker 1: Okay, but still got love for sure.
Speaker 2: And my brother Massiah, he actually produced that one.
Speaker 1: Does he produced some of your projects?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He produced that one. He produced Family Connect Me
Speaker 2: and Pops.
Speaker 1: What's it like working with your siblings in the studio.
Speaker 2: I think it's like working with another dope artist, but
Speaker 2: just with with already a built down level of respect.
Speaker 1: I say, that's that's I mean because sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: you can argue and fight with your siblings and.
Speaker 2: Do it over.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it, you know.
Speaker 2: Nah. I think we're good at letting each other do
Speaker 2: our own thing, and then we take turns doing our
Speaker 2: own thing, come back in and add stuff, take away stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I think we're good at that.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we get we're so good at that,
Speaker 2: But we let each other rock out. We let each
Speaker 2: other rock out, and we come together and oversee it
Speaker 2: from a bigger perspective and we you know, we put
Speaker 2: something out.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Let's hold you when you walked up, I'm before.
Speaker 1: The ink dry and is that available now?
Speaker 2: Yep? So it just came out.
Speaker 6: So it's just let's drop how you feel.
Speaker 2: Just more music, man, It's.
Speaker 4: Just more music.
Speaker 2: It's just more music. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love that everything that I do is just been
Speaker 2: an upward trajector more people just getting getting to hear
Speaker 2: the dope music for real. So I love it. I
Speaker 2: love the process. I'm loving the journey.
Speaker 6: Do you like the grind? Do you like being independent
Speaker 6: and really having a grind?
Speaker 2: For sure? For sure? I think that's not even like independent.
Speaker 2: I just I do like the grind.
Speaker 1: Though, Before you get out of here, what are those
Speaker 1: beads that.
Speaker 3: You have on?
Speaker 2: Are someone gave me these? Uh this tigers? The Brownes tigers.
Speaker 2: I don't know what these real ones are. But people
Speaker 2: be giving me like crystals and bracelets and necklaces, and
Speaker 2: I just accept them. Okay, so sometimes I be wearing them.
Speaker 4: Gave me this Thanksgiving for real?
Speaker 2: What I'm saying at home?
Speaker 6: Man, I got the ayst poss I have to say
Speaker 6: I got that too.
Speaker 2: I got I left my beads the planet. So that's
Speaker 2: what it's supposed to look like. You got all the chakras.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, well the money. We appreciate you for joining
Speaker 1: us right here on the Battle of the show before
Speaker 1: the drows is out. Now, I hope everybody goes and
Speaker 1: streams it. And do you have a tour coming up
Speaker 1: later for it or.
Speaker 2: Top of the year next year, we will be rolling
Speaker 2: out a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll be looking out man, and I hope you
Speaker 1: come back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta come back, man.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: Of course, before we get out of here, though, we
Speaker 1: do have a pep talk with the money.
Speaker 2: What's going down? This is the money pep talk. Let
Speaker 2: me see. Uh, I ain't gonna say nothing crazy. Everything
Speaker 2: you heard before. You can do anything you put your
Speaker 2: mind to. I know everybody hate to hear that, but
Speaker 2: it's the real deal. Let me see. Don't let nobody
Speaker 2: just it's the regular stuff, man. Just look up common
Speaker 2: quotes and y'all be safe. Man. You can do anything
Speaker 2: you push your mind.
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