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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Rudy tom Janovic was inducted into the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame player and coach, and I thought he brought

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Speaker 1: up of all of the things said this weekend. Then

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Speaker 1: they were wonderful speeches. The composure that Vanessa Bryant showed

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Speaker 1: speech this way, Congratulations baby, all of your hard work

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Speaker 1: and sacrifices paid off. You once told me, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to bet on someone, bet on yourself. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you bet on yourself, you overachiever. You did it. You're

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Now you're a true champ.

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Speaker 1: You're not just an MVP, You're an all time great.

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. I love you forever and always.

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bean Bryant, who that's the third time I've heard

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Speaker 1: it still hits me, man, But just Tim Duncan. Tim

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Speaker 1: Duncan didn't have any notes. Tim Duncan just talked. We

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Speaker 1: never heard from Tim when he played. They never cared

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Speaker 1: about any of that. It's just like a taller version

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Speaker 1: of John Stockton from the standpoint of I just played

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Speaker 1: about well everybody, including Greg Popovich, where you just like,

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Speaker 1: those are really poignant speeches, you know. Kevin Garnett. Kevin

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Speaker 1: Garnett kept trying to compliment Tim Duncan, but I know

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Speaker 1: there's this the intense rivalry, and KG would have to say,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm you know, I'm serious, you know, because

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Speaker 1: It's just wonderful moments. I mean, I love this. I've

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Speaker 1: and it comes alive, the voices come alive in there.

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Speaker 1: And to see all of those greats there, and Michael

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Speaker 1: was a great point guard in her own right now

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Speaker 1: going down Lash Hue. She got inducted. It's just wonderful.

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Speaker 1: It's a celebration of the sport for all of the

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Speaker 1: great things, and Rudy tom Janovich got up there and

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Speaker 1: I did not expect this to come out of his mouth.

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Speaker 1: I want to speak up for Robert Are to be

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Speaker 1: inductive into the Hall of Fame. He is true a

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Speaker 1: legendary player. He made so many clutch shots. He's got

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Speaker 1: seven rings to prove it. This is where he belongs.

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Speaker 1: I went, whoah, I got a topic for a Monday

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Speaker 1: show because we've brought this up before. We've had Robert

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Speaker 1: on before to talk about this, and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to when you bring up Robert Orry. Yes, part of

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Speaker 1: seven championship teams, big shot Bob, but he was an

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Speaker 1: average regular season player. He had less than eight thousand

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Speaker 1: career points. He started about thirty percent of the time. Like,

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Speaker 1: what is a Hall of Famer? We get caught up

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Speaker 1: in stats. It's all about stats. We've joked about Julian Edelman.

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Speaker 1: You know you can't you can't write the history of

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Speaker 1: with Robert without Robert or Now does that make you

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? Neither made the Pro Bowl, he

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Speaker 1: neither made an All Star team. I love the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I like that. We don't forget some of these players

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Speaker 1: who did contribute, knew their roles. But then how far

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Speaker 1: do you extend it? If I put Robert Or into

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, I'm putting Julian Edelman into the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Contributions, big games, MVP of

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl playoff numbers. Do I put Derek Fisher

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Speaker 1: in the basketball Hall of Fame? He had more points

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, he had ten thousand career points,

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Speaker 1: He won five rings. You know who has the most

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Speaker 1: postseason games of all time? Derek Fisher. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's a Hall of Famer. I like the discussion,

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Speaker 1: but I don't like getting to the point where you

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Speaker 1: then denigrate a player, and I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Robert Or contributed on a big stage, and I applaud

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Speaker 1: his former coach Rudy tom Janovic for giving him a

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, there's a million Robert

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Speaker 1: Or or this guy's career. Okay, hold on, hold on

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Robert Or's career or Chris Webber

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Speaker 1: the national title in college basketball and I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's going in next year along with Ben Wallace, Chris Bosh. Yes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little more extreme on on Robert Ory.

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Speaker 1: Would you have rather Robert Ory's career rings that go

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Speaker 1: considered that, and it's really Barkley might be second, you

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Speaker 1: Malone's first ballot. He's got He's got everything. He's got

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Speaker 1: the numbers. He does not have a ring. Ye, Robert

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Speaker 1: Or's got seven, and he's responsible for some of the seven.

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Speaker 1: He's not just along for the riding. Now Jake Jack

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Speaker 1: Carl Malone's career. I mean, look, it's nice to win titles.

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Speaker 1: Malone came up short twice against Michael Jordan. He's the

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Speaker 1: Those those guys played eighty two games, no load management

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Speaker 1: Robert Or or Chris Webber. That one's a little tougher.

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Speaker 1: See Webb was great, made a lasting impression in college.

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Speaker 1: No titles. I'd probably say Robert Or Oversea Webb. When

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Speaker 1: Bob Now, they might go, who's the tall guy there?

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Speaker 1: you immediately go on its big shot bob and he's

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Speaker 1: or under man that dude belongs in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: the expectations from Mellow were so high that he almost

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Speaker 1: feels like he under underperformed. Where or exceeds? Is that expectation? Well?

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Speaker 1: Or wasn't good enough to be a starter, but he

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Speaker 1: Therefore you expect more out of him. You know, he

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Speaker 1: rather be Steve Nash close. I'm MVP two times. Alan

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Speaker 1: Iverson Man Iverson Iverson changed the game. He changed the game,

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Speaker 1: of ways. How he looked, what he said, how he played. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: mean he just is. Uh. Maybe Steph finishes second, Chris

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Speaker 1: So it's like here our our three guests, Reggie Miller

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Speaker 1: obviously a Hall of Famer. Yes, I wonder if Reggie

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Speaker 1: But it's like, okay, let's say you're a sports center

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Speaker 1: singled out right, So there's a lot of Robert Or's

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Speaker 1: at ESPN. There aren't many Alan Iverson's. Well something like that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do a very good job. Yes, Paul, I

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Speaker 1: think Fritzie has a Sports Emmy or two for Lucy

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Speaker 1: hell yet? Yeah. Yeah, it's like the equipment manager gets

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Speaker 1: like you hand out jerseys and towels. I know. That's

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Speaker 1: why I've always insisted on talent coordinator or talent producers,

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Speaker 1: anything other than senior talent. I think it's towel towel coordinator.

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Speaker 1: It just sounds shady. Booker, sounds like bookie. It just

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Speaker 1: sounds like yours. How about we check him right here.

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Speaker 1: five titles, He was MVP in the finals three times,

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Speaker 1: he won two league MVPs. He was first or second,

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Speaker 1: you know, all NBA defense fifteen years, All Star fifteen

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Speaker 1: Like he he did everything you would ask a great

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Speaker 1: player to do, without any fanfare and really no signature moment.

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Speaker 1: He just he was kind of perfect for San Antonio.

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Speaker 1: I wonder, though, Bill, if he played in LA or

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Speaker 1: New York or Boston, would we be looking at Tim

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Speaker 1: Duncan differently if he had this resume. That's a great question,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, the guy like Clayton Clayton Kergiall is

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Speaker 1: very quiet like Duncan and just does his job and

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Speaker 1: he's he's revered out here. But I would the Kobe

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Speaker 1: brings them a mentality I know that's such a cliche

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Speaker 1: and everybody laughs. Nason, when did I say it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I want my club to have the Mamba mentality.

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Speaker 1: That's why I want to go. Yeah. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's a wrong answer in there, but well, I

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Speaker 1: think Kevin Garnette would be wrong answer. Well, he had

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Speaker 1: a run there where he put up you know, like

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Speaker 1: twenty five fifteen, you know, five block shots or four

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Speaker 1: block shots like he he put up some pretty big numbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he did, but he really wasn't. Didn't have the consistency

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Speaker 1: and the length of career that these other guys did.

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Speaker 1: He didn't, and he wasn't. He wasn't as good as him.

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Speaker 1: He just wasn't as good. Great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: He's the star of around the Horn It's your words,

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Speaker 1: not mine, Your word's not mine, and does a decent

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Speaker 1: job as the columnist for the La Times. Bill. Thanks,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Great to catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller hald of famer Turner Sports NBA analyst A

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. Reggie, let me hit you with

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Speaker 1: the early whole question that we had mclove and you

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Speaker 1: want to give Regg the first owner pull question, first

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Speaker 1: hour poll question. Who's creator would you rather have? Robert

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Speaker 1: Ory or Chris Webber? Wow? Uh, well that is a

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Speaker 1: tough one. That's a great question. I guess seven championships

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Speaker 1: kind of trumps everything, right, is it? Seven? Or six?

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Speaker 1: Seven championship? A lot of big shots for Robert Doory,

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Speaker 1: But think about the culture change Chris whoever was a

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Speaker 1: part of being part of the Fab five in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: because you're encompassing the whole career, right, not just NBA. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like C Webb's career. Obviously he didn't doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a championship to back it up, but a hell of

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Speaker 1: a career for C Webb. You could not go wrong

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Speaker 1: with either or Um. But seven championships ring that's hard

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Speaker 1: to turn down. That's hard. Would you rather have Robert

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Speaker 1: Ory's career or yours? Take him up? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm taking mind. I know I don't have

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Speaker 1: any chips to show for it, but it was all

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Speaker 1: about the struggle for me, all about the struggle to

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Speaker 1: win one. And I will never change my career for

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Speaker 1: anyone's because that's to me, that's what it was all about. Now.

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Speaker 1: Is Robert or a Hall of Famer? Yes, I really

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Speaker 1: do believe so. And if you think about it, you

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Speaker 1: could take away a chip from Tim Duncan, and you

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Speaker 1: probably could take a chip away from Kobe if it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for the fact of big shots by Robert Or.

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Speaker 1: I do believe he's a Hall of Famer. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at some of the guys that are currently

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Speaker 1: getting in that don't have gaudy numbers. I mean, Ben

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Speaker 1: Wallace was a great defender, but he doesn't have gouty numbers.

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Speaker 1: Ben Wallace is going in this year to Coombe Matumbo.

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Speaker 1: Great defensive player, defensive Player of the Year, but not

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Speaker 1: gaudy numbers in the Hall of Fame. Robert or he

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Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. I as

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Speaker 1: much as I like Ben, I don't think he's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Ben Wallace. I think he was a

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Speaker 1: really good player. He was a key player for you know,

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Speaker 1: some good teams. But um, I just don't say it's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. No, no, I do. I don't

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Speaker 1: like Chris Bosh was a wonderful player in Toronto. He

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Speaker 1: was the third person in Miami. I know, health issues,

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Speaker 1: but he was second team All NBA one time. And

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Speaker 1: that's it. Like I I don't. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: we judge. And maybe my bar is too high here, Regie,

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Speaker 1: you know when it comes to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: apologize for being kind of tough on you know, the requirements.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to demean Ben Wallace. You know, Dick Kembay,

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Speaker 1: you want to put him a Hall of fame. You

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Speaker 1: want to put Ben in there, Boston. I mean that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I guess I just trying to understand the criteria here.

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Speaker 1: I think the Garteria you're thinking about out is in

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Speaker 1: terms of other hall of fames, because it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: to get into Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame, very

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Speaker 1: tough to get into the NFL. I think the NBA

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Speaker 1: criteria of getting in is not as high, and I

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Speaker 1: think they do encompass a person's body of work going

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Speaker 1: back to college too. So I think when I look

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Speaker 1: at Ben Wallace's career, again, not gaudy numbers, but was

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Speaker 1: on great teams, championship teams in Detroit. He was the

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Speaker 1: head of the snake defensively for that team. He was

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Speaker 1: a couple of times defensive Player of the Year. I

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Speaker 1: believe I think he deserves now. Again, I've gone against

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Speaker 1: these guys head to head, so I'm a little biased

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Speaker 1: because I've seen their body of work up close. But

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Speaker 1: it is Derek Fisher a Hall of Famer. No you

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Speaker 1: got you got five times, five titles, He's played in

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Speaker 1: more playoff games than anybody in NBA history. He's he's

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Speaker 1: got three thousand, twenty five hundred more points than Robert

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Speaker 1: or he does made some big shots. Yes, So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I just throw that out there. Throw that

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Speaker 1: out there. Steve Kerr is going into the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: in't he? Well? Why he's got Well, a coach and

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Speaker 1: player he's got So he's got eight grades. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think so, right, five and five as a player, three

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Speaker 1: as a coach. He's he's going in as a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer combination coach. He's going into the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer as a coach. Yeah, as a coach, he'll going

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Famer. He probably won't go in

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Speaker 1: as a player, but they just they would just say

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr Hall of Famer, but they would designate him

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Speaker 1: as a coach going into I think he will go

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Speaker 1: with I think he'll go in as a coach, but

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Speaker 1: he's still a Hall of Famer rather. You're a coach, yeah, player, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: hey joined the Hall of Fame. I know, oh, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're a Hall of Famer. Yeah. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you could start your team with Kobe Duncan kg

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Speaker 1: What era, what rules? Nineteen ninety five Tim Duncan okay

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Speaker 1: I said the same thing twenty fifteen. Kobe Bryant, so

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Speaker 1: I said too, Kobe would learn to well, yes, he's

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Speaker 1: student of the game. He's going to learn to be

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Speaker 1: great in today's NBA. Would he be a volume three

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Speaker 1: point shooter? Kobe? Yeah, it was a great I thought

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Speaker 1: he was a great shooter anyways, But yeah, he would

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Speaker 1: be a volume You'd be a volume scorer because I

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Speaker 1: don't want to label him as a shooter, because Kobe

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Speaker 1: can give you buckets. So he would be a volume

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Speaker 1: scorer as very much as he was throughout his career.

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Speaker 1: Better in game dunker Kobe or Jordan Jordan, Man, I'd

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Speaker 1: looked at him flights and Kobe, Yeah, I would say

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Speaker 1: that Kobe was probably more artistic because he had the

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Speaker 1: great reverse dunks that Jordan never had. Um, but Jordan

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Speaker 1: needs to embarrass you on some of them dunks. To me,

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Speaker 1: the all time classic Jordan dunk is the one against

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Speaker 1: the Knicks in the Garden when he's going baseline, makes

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Speaker 1: the other way and then continues to go baseline and

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Speaker 1: just pipes on. I don't know if that's Patrick or

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Speaker 1: I don't know who. It looked like all of the

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Speaker 1: New York Knicks. That's probably my best dunk ever of

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Did Jordan ever get you? Well, I was

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Speaker 1: guarding him, so I let he blew boy into the

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Speaker 1: David's Boys and Rick Smith, so I was never under

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Speaker 1: their waiting for him. So I got the wrath of

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Speaker 1: it from Yale and Antonio like Rich, keep them in

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Speaker 1: front of you. I'm like, I'm sending them to hell.

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Speaker 1: He see you never got postrized because you weren't the

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Speaker 1: guy who was going up to try to block right,

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I was smart enough. That's their job is

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Speaker 1: to protect the rim, not mine. Did you postrize anybody

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Speaker 1: with a dunk? I'm sure there's someone I got you.

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Speaker 1: There have to be someone you should remember. You should remember,

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Speaker 1: like a two hander down the lane against the Knicks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Mick Lovin seton look it up against the Knicks in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. I did. I got Charles Oakley and Charles Smith.

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Speaker 1: I did. I got them in the playoffs. They must

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Speaker 1: hold up hold. Yes, I did against the Nets, the

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Speaker 1: New Jersey Nets, in the overtime game my last year

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Speaker 1: or second to last year, that sent the game to overtime.

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Speaker 1: I dunked on the whole net Steam. It's the most

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Speaker 1: famous dunk of mine, Everest my last dunk. Actually yeah,

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Speaker 1: PAULI yeah, he dunked right in the Kmart's mug. Kenyan

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Speaker 1: Martin was, yes, do you think that they They had

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Speaker 1: to be so surprised. They're like this, this dude ain't jumping,

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Speaker 1: like like Carrie Kittles, Who's going this guy can't jump?

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Speaker 1: Hold up? I was just as surprise. I didn't believe

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Speaker 1: I was up that high. Believe you should. You should

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Speaker 1: see Jason Kidd's face. He's like, what what did Redgedic do? Hey?

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this. When I started to go up,

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Speaker 1: I heard the theme I heard the theme music. I believe.

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Speaker 1: I believe back in touch this guy, I'm telling I

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Speaker 1: felt you're holding onto the rim. You've never been up

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Speaker 1: that high before. And what's funny about that. Mark Jackson

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Speaker 1: was at the game just to come watch his play.

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Speaker 1: And I remember after the dunk and the time mountain,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking back to the bench and his seats were

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Speaker 1: kind of behind our bench, and I'm walking and he's

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Speaker 1: just shaking his head. I'm giving them one of these

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Speaker 1: looks like you remember that it was hilarious Reggie Miller,

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. How concerned would you be if

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Speaker 1: you're the Lakers with Steph Curry here, that is a

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Speaker 1: nuclear bomb that can go off at any time. Um,

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Speaker 1: look that, let's face it. The Lakers are the better team,

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Speaker 1: they're the bigger team m championship experience, but so do

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Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. But Steph Curry, the way he has

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Speaker 1: played all season and especially the last two months, he

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Speaker 1: can explode in a one game series if he gets hot. Look,

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Speaker 1: I will say this for the Lakers. They have a

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Speaker 1: lot of wing defenders that they're gonna throw at him.

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Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder, Contavious Caldwell, Pope Crusoe will get some time

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Speaker 1: on them. And if need be, Lebron James, if it's

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Speaker 1: you know, last possession of the possible game. So it's

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Speaker 1: the Lakers to lose, they shouldn't win it. But Steph

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00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: scares me. The Lakers do well against Steph. And there

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Speaker 1: are two teams that seem to do well. Clippers and

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: Lakers do well. They have length and I think you know,

631
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let whoever you know, we're gonna pick somebody.

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00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: If that guy gets thirty thirty five final, I can't

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00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: let Steph have you know, over thirty five. I just

634
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: I can't. And then if it's the other guys who

635
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: beat us, you know, okay, but I'm not gonna I'm

636
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna make sure Steph has to give the ball up

637
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, for the Lakers too.

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00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: When Anthony Davis was in the New Orleans he used

639
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: to dominate Golden State during the playoffs. And I just

640
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: don't think they have a matchup form as great as

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00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: Draymond Green is. He is giving up six or seven

642
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: inches and a lot of length going against a D,

643
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: so a D should have a field day versus Golden State.

644
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: But I just don't think they have enough scoring unless

645
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Wiggins reverts back and gives them twenty five or thirty.

646
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Fool has played great coming off the bench for them,

647
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: had a career high believe thirty eight a few games ago.

648
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think they can generate enough scoring against

649
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the number one rated defensive team in the Lakers. But

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00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: looking at the Lakers, it feels like if you don't

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00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: get them early, then you're in trouble because I think

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00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: once they get back into the rhythm here, then they're

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: gonna be less vulnerable here. Do you feel that way

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00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: or do you think the health of Lebron and Anthony

655
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: Davis are going to be sort of a cloud hanging

656
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: over this team, you know, the entire postseason. I think

657
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: it's always going to be a question mark. We just

658
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: saw within the last five minutes of that Pelicans game

659
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tweak to the ankle of Lebron. Now,

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: coach Vogel came out and said, he's okay, he's good

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00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: to go. But what else is he going to say? Oh,

662
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: he towards it. You know, he turned his ankle again,

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00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: so he's got to put that out. I think health

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: and concern will always follow these Lakers throughout these playoffs. Um.

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00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: But it's funny how teams in the Western Conference we're

666
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: kind of dodging a little bit not to fall into

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00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers path und the Clippers if the Clippers did it.

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00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Um but I will say this, I feel bad for

669
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: Phoenix because Phoenix is I mean great here. Chris Paul

670
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: is an MVP candidate. Devin Booker has been ridiculous. Montie

671
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: Williams will probably win coach of the Year. And what

672
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: how are you rewarded. You've had the best record, a

673
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: resurgence in the Valley of the Sun, and you were

674
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: rewarded by playing the world champs, possibly knock on Wood

675
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: in the first round. Come on, who else is dangerous

676
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: in the West or just in general? Just in general?

677
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I could just say, hey, here's a team that just

678
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: keep an eye on health. If they're healthy, and this

679
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: is a scary first round matchup in the East. How

680
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: did Milwaukee draw Miami? Miami outs of them last year

681
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They know how to play Yannis. Now,

682
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee's credit, I think they've done a great job

683
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: of going out and getting some pieces. I think that

684
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 1: will help them. Getting Drew Holiday and PJ. Tucker two

685
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: tough guys, two defensive minded guys that are going to

686
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: help you honest in the playoffs. But Miami is a

687
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: team that has championship aspirations. We saw them get to

688
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: the finals if they can find that shooting touch because

689
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: their defense has been really good. Bam has been playing great.

690
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler has to stay healthy. He's been up and

691
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: down all year with health. But when he's right, when

692
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: those shooters are right Hero and Duncan. This is a

693
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: scary team to watch. It's almost a Pickham series for me.

694
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: I know Milwaukee's the third seed, but to me, that's

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00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: a pick him series. If you did your MVP vote today,

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00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: who would get it. I'm voting for Stepot. I know

697
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: Yo will win, and rightfully so. He's played every game

698
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: and he's had unbelievable numbers. He'll win it. But my MVP.

699
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: No one expected Golden State when they heard the news

700
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: that Clay Torres is Achilles, that they were going to

701
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: be in this position. And he think about other than Draymond.

702
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I know Wiggins is good, Kelly Bray got off to

703
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: who else is who? I know you're number two? Pick

704
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: Wise been went down about a month and a half ago,

705
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: so they Steve Kerr has found ways to patch work

706
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: this team and now they're in the playing game. He

707
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: is my MVP. His last two months have been ridiculous.

708
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous what he's done. That's the video game. If

709
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: you could have Robert Ory's career or Steve Nash's career,

710
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: Steve Nash two time MVP kind of changed the game.

711
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Steve Nash. Yeah, I know, championships

712
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: are great, don't get me wrong. But to be a

713
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: baller and to be the best player on a team,

714
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: and to be the leader, and to be a face

715
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: of a nation two and with Canada too, for you know,

716
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: for a long while, I'm taking Steve Nash. Okay, Robert

717
00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: or Vince Carter Woo. Now, I might have to go

718
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: with Robert. But half man, half amazing. He started the

719
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: basketball revolution along with Steve Nash for Canada when he

720
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: was up in Toronto. But seven ships. I mean, Robert

721
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: already needs to be in the Hall of Fame. I know,

722
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I get where you're going. Robert already needs to be

723
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Theodore Man. But okay, iverson

724
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: Robert Dory, Oh, come on, stop, Its well, that's easy.

725
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: He's a cult hero, That's true. He is a cult hero.

726
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: He He's like Shock, Wilt, Steph, They Jordan. They change things,

727
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: They change the culture of things, the way we perceive things.

728
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm going with Ai. I'll leave you with this. How

729
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: much of you wanted to hear Kobe give that speech

730
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: yet Saturday? Well you know we heard Jordan's speech right

731
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: when he went You know he took names and went

732
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: after guys. I think we would have seen kind of

733
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: the same thing. Do you think he would a roast

734
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: to the audience, Yes, and then some see. I thought

735
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: he would have roasted KG and Duncan. I think he

736
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: probably would have told a story about m J two

737
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: because I'm sure MJ. He would have asked MJ to

738
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: stand up for him as well, and just see them

739
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: side by side because they will forever be linked because

740
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: they are the two best shooting guards this game has

741
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: ever seen, and just to see them side by side

742
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: would have been really cool because of how much Kobe

743
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: looked up to his airness. But Vanessa was fantastic. I

744
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know how. I don't know how she does it.

745
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: How she did it at the memorial at Staples, which

746
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: was that was too soon for me, and then this

747
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: it's she was fantastic. I got more emotional than she did,

748
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: like she held composure and I'm going, oh man, this

749
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: is hitting me hard. It really is. Uh, It's it's tough,

750
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: it really is. Because I'm glad we're starting to get

751
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: us sense and see how Kobe was away from the court,

752
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, and we're getting a better glimpse of that

753
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: because all we see was win win, win by any

754
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: means necessary, go right through you, and rightfully so, because

755
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: you know play haven't played against him. That's how he was.

756
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: But I kind of knew Kobe away from the court,

757
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: and how Vanessa and his and the family have kind

758
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: of made him more human has been fantastic along with Gigi.

759
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: I mean just great, absolutely great. Great. Chuck to you, Bud,

760
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: You're always the best theatres. Well we'll talk to once again.

761
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: You would have your career over Robert Doris, Right, yeah,

762
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: I love you, big shot, but you're getting this and this.

763
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: I have big shots too, I just don't have these.

764
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't have me. But I can go big shot

765
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: for big shot with you. Okay, but can I have

766
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: one of these? You're a better shooter than Robert door Man.

767
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Come on, stop it, I just stop it, like still,

768
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: stand still, kick out Robert ory you but you like this.

769
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: He would come to me for shooting, okay, and they're

770
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: coming to me for shooting. There's a lot of guys

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00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: who would thank you, buddy, talk to you for the

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00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: best theaterore. I love you, Dan. That