WEBVTT - Situational Awareness

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Colin, And I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard radio podcast is everyone voting for the People's choice word?

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<v Speaker 1>If I vote today, Let's get on it, because here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Yes, mamma, do you want to do a party?

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<v Speaker 1>You and your party? I love throwing a party. I

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<v Speaker 1>love a party. Do you want to have a party

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<v Speaker 1>for the People's choice nomination? Danielle and I have some

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<v Speaker 1>things up our sleeve? And what do you think? I

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<v Speaker 1>love that I'm asking on the air, because how can

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<v Speaker 1>you say no? We should do a co party with

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<v Speaker 1>the scrubbing in Michael No. I was so excited to

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<v Speaker 1>just even be like again nominated and with them. I

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<v Speaker 1>love both those girls so much much fun. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have we have the party in Nashville because both

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<v Speaker 1>those girls want to go. And I've been texting both

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<v Speaker 1>those girls like crazy to how much fun would that be? Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly with me, literally I've been talking to both

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<v Speaker 1>for those girls this past week, like I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I love you, congrat some gonna love you

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<v Speaker 1>congrat like and then we're like, let's do a Nashville trip,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, an l a party in the Nashville party.

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<v Speaker 1>Well then if you are, of course you are. We

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<v Speaker 1>got time those shows not till November, that's true. We

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<v Speaker 1>can do a party in September. Yeah, we could do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Daniel and I are on it. We can

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<v Speaker 1>also do a party in October, November, where December or

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<v Speaker 1>January that's after to everyone's in, keep on, keep them,

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<v Speaker 1>keep them coming. So we can have another party in

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<v Speaker 1>December January to celebrate then winning again. Getting older. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing though, it's not I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Dak Shepherd's people vote. It's like it's the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>nation that votes because it was you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. But who knows. We'll see you got

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<v Speaker 1>anything you want to talk to me about there? Let

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<v Speaker 1>me answer this if you well, I don't think we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever touched on this. If there's one thing that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to do in your life that you've always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thought like answer in another life, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna actually gonna make this more difficult for you

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you're going to is gonna be I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be an anchor women. Well, that's like my

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<v Speaker 1>third thing on my list. Okay, why do you say

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I want a women because and then like

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<v Speaker 1>the home videos that you show me when you're like twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you're sitting. I'm Janna Freemer recording Lifeless News.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much that. Um, so, what is it that you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to do or would want to do in

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<v Speaker 1>a different life. What do you think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be besides um an in person? Well, then you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of live in your dream because you're an younger person.

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<v Speaker 1>For extra, extra extra, you're gonna see Jana on your

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room TVs. Hey, guys, I booted Mario Lopez out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Janna Kramer, Janna Kramer this week on demand puppy pause.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, so what would you want to do? I

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<v Speaker 1>just guess the anchor UM Eastern give me a good guess.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I like to play the guests and game.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to play games. I want to play more

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<v Speaker 1>games on the show. Like, what what have you always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do? Like a pipe dream? Like, uh, let's see,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see Jannah being like a secret agent, martial

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<v Speaker 1>arts expert, that kind of thing, like a black widow type.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. Um okay, so my number one would be, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've always wanted, because that's what I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do, right, Yeah, just something that you you've always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been drawn to, but your life went in

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<v Speaker 1>a different direction. But yeah, what would you want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna change your question a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say what I

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<v Speaker 1>would have, what I still would love to accomplish in

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<v Speaker 1>this lifetime. Not the question. Yeah, it is not a question. Okay, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll answer your question and I'll answer mine. So

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<v Speaker 1>what I would want to do in another lifetime. I

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<v Speaker 1>would want to go into politics, and I would want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a political figure because I loved current events

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<v Speaker 1>in um, you know how people get like like House

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<v Speaker 1>of Cards, people are like scared of you know. Characters

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<v Speaker 1>like Robin would be my Janna would be the real

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<v Speaker 1>life like Robin White, Robin Robin, Right, Yeah, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be my dream. Like would you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of the city or would you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to run. I would want to go

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<v Speaker 1>because I loved politics when I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it so much. So, I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>did extra credit homework, so that my UM homework us

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<v Speaker 1>in my current events class, they still use my like

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<v Speaker 1>extra credit project. I did just because I even just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to come in and talk all about George Bush

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<v Speaker 1>and so, Um, I was so excited because I got

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<v Speaker 1>I won the trip to go to the capital, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was living my best life, just like being in

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<v Speaker 1>the capital, being in that room. It was just maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we passed each other on a field trip back then.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you were in the senior in high school. I

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<v Speaker 1>was graduating sixth grade. Yeah, but in this lifetime, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be Um, I've I would love to go

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<v Speaker 1>to college and get a degree in UM psychology. I

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<v Speaker 1>would actually love to get a degree in psychology too. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't take mine. No, I took a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>psychology classes in college, and I wish I would have

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<v Speaker 1>focused on that. Yeah, but that's awesome, Michael, what's yours now?

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<v Speaker 1>And then in another life, since I did too, since

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<v Speaker 1>I added my question into this one, Um, in another life,

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<v Speaker 1>actually applings there since he made fun of mine, Since

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<v Speaker 1>you made fun of mine, just called me Carl Winslow. Um, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, after this numerous time, it's probably even on here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably even say it later today because we have

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing guest who has a background in military and

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<v Speaker 1>special ops. But I've always been drawn to law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>and not just being a cop. But fbi CI just

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, you still can I'm thirty two? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that matter? It's like you like are like sixty when

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<v Speaker 1>you say it's like I can't take up piano, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two, Like that's no, that's not true. Just think

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<v Speaker 1>about where you could be at a Dixie too. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not sixty, You're not dying. You're thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Okay, I'm gonna quit everything we're doing and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go be a secret what you want to do? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think I said this before too. That ship

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<v Speaker 1>has sailed because all of our ship is out there.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't That's not gonna mean that you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do sweat because the undercover agent though,

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<v Speaker 1>well anyways, so that But then, honestly, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, besides I've wanted to play in the felt

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<v Speaker 1>since I was like four. But besides that, in law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought I'd be a really good teacher, like

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<v Speaker 1>I love to teach and I wanted to teach either

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<v Speaker 1>late elementary school or late high school. Elementary school like

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<v Speaker 1>fifth grade, like fifth sixth grade, or late high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably late high school. But I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just always thought I would enjoy teaching. I would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good teacher. Not middle school, because all those

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<v Speaker 1>kids are well sixth grades middle school in some in

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<v Speaker 1>some places, that's why I was, well, where I come from,

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<v Speaker 1>is it really one through six, seven eight middle interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the normal way. I don't know if you if

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<v Speaker 1>I see you being so, you actually see you being

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<v Speaker 1>more of a middle than elementary and high. My patients

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<v Speaker 1>could not handle middle schoolers, but yet you can handle

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<v Speaker 1>fourth and fifth graders because because their fourth and fifth

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<v Speaker 1>graders there, you're still partly cute. Seventh and eighth graders.

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<v Speaker 1>We all went to middle school. That's the worst time ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's a head. Everyone sucks and stinks. Middle school sucks

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<v Speaker 1>and stinks, and everyone's stinky and they don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. So people aren't really putting on either they're

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<v Speaker 1>not putting on perfume, cologn or deodorant, or to put

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<v Speaker 1>on too much. I think you, because I don't, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not good with the cockiness, and you're not good with

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<v Speaker 1>the shyness cockiness like if a kid was being yeah

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<v Speaker 1>grade yeah, but I have a way to break through that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what would you want to teach? What subject? When?

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<v Speaker 1>When I had this dream, I wouldn't be a history teacher? History? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>So who won the Battle of Gettysburg? Your mom, Michael, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna quiz your history nous in school history and

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<v Speaker 1>social sides? Was like my favorite? Who won the Battle

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<v Speaker 1>of Gatlinburg? Gatlinburg? I don't know, do you you're the

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<v Speaker 1>history teacher? Let me get some O. When did when

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<v Speaker 1>did um Columbus sail around the world? And what did

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<v Speaker 1>he realize that he's not alone and that all made

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<v Speaker 1>up answers, foes and the right answer? I see? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I could have said, kay, I would have known

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<v Speaker 1>that the bat with him Um finally keeping check at him.

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<v Speaker 1>I see. Actually it wasn't too far off. I did

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<v Speaker 1>say when was the pilgrimage? Looks sick brush and is relevant?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he said you wanted to be a history teacher?

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<v Speaker 1>What history are you talking about? Anyway? I'm just this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't my dream. Now, this was a different lifetime, but

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<v Speaker 1>you still have to have some knowledge like I have

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge in mine were yours? Again, I don't know it's

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<v Speaker 1>give any more. Okay, Well, I'm really excited because I

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<v Speaker 1>just heard that our special litterally literally our special guest

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<v Speaker 1>is here. So um, let's take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're going to intro our guests. I know Michael

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<v Speaker 1>and I both can say that this is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be one of the coolest interviews as we've had

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<v Speaker 1>one like this yet, and no offense to our other

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<v Speaker 1>guests was we love all of our guests, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is just something that's I'm so excited because it's very

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<v Speaker 1>um how do I say, very relevant topic that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been discussing the house and um, you know, our guest

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<v Speaker 1>has been through a lot, so I'm excited talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the journey. But then also the things that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about be safe too. Okay, Michael, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you the let's welcome before I give the elevator pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Aaron Cohen, alright, elevator pitch here, elevator pitch. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go to my nets just so I don't mess

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<v Speaker 1>anything up. Aaron is a former Spec Ops commando of

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<v Speaker 1>turned bodyguard turned actor Little Mr. Everything. The age eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're volunteered and selected to serve in the dubbed an

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<v Speaker 1>the Secret Israeli Commander Unit operating undercover and in disguise

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<v Speaker 1>inside Palestinian territory, which was designated to infiltrate terrorist cells.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've done everything, So you're just a you're a

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<v Speaker 1>you're a badass. Yeah, I love it? Where it? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something, Mike, I mean, this is what um so.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the unit that dresses up as Arabs

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<v Speaker 1>to go undercover to kidnap terrorists to bring them back

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<v Speaker 1>to Israel. Wait say that you dressed show. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>show on Netflix called Felda. Felda is blowing up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in its third season, I think, right, and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>unit that specializes in dressing up as Arabs for the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of infiltrating terrorists neighborhoods to kidnap terrorists to bring

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<v Speaker 1>them back to Israel for trial and interrogation. So in

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<v Speaker 1>the first American to ever serve in the unit. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a show on Netflix called Falada, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>with Leo Roz. Yeah, totally blowing up right now you

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<v Speaker 1>get a picture of it. There and uh, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>the number one show on Netflix right now and the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why is because it's in Hebrew and Arabic and

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<v Speaker 1>all the Arabs that hate Israel love the show because

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<v Speaker 1>finally like getting to see behind the curb a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, yeah, I did that for seven years. That's fast.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like your dream, wasn't it, Mike, Well, just

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been I'm have a sports background, played professionally

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But my biggest thing, like, once

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<v Speaker 1>I retired, I even thought about doing law enforcement, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's just been That's one of those pipe dreams for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to serve in some kind of law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but the but here's so I was all

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I was like, babe, go. He even went

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the what's that called you're you're a

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<v Speaker 1>former football player? The fantastic so but he was like, well, babies,

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<v Speaker 1>like the kind of law enforcement I would want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is like I would want to be the ones

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<v Speaker 1>like breaking down the doors and like yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 1>like I told her there's this unit in Nashville where

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<v Speaker 1>we're living at the time, and now we're back there

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't remember the name of it, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was basically the squad that kind of does all the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the down and dirty stuff. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>next job. I spent the last fifteen years training SWAN

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the Israeli methodology of Active Shooter Response and

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<v Speaker 1>uh c QB or Forced Entry for High Risk Warrant

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<v Speaker 1>Service and hostage Rescue. Do you have a family? I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Was your wife terrified? My fiance I met after the

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<v Speaker 1>military in my career. She still is kind of terrified

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<v Speaker 1>with the stuff I do. But she likes all the

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<v Speaker 1>acting stuff now. But I think she likes the more

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<v Speaker 1>badass stuff, do you know what I mean. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, Hollywood's cool, Like she loves the Hollywood stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the Hollywood stuff. I like working in films

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so much more fun. Like I'm like blanks

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<v Speaker 1>versus bullets. It's like the blanks, um. But she likes

0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.920
<v Speaker 1>me because of the real stuff, because she knows the

0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood stuff is nonsense. And do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel safer with me because of the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a reserve deputy. I carry a firearm. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie theater, I can respond to an active

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<v Speaker 1>shot which leads us to this thing. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>terrible anxiety because well I've had anxiety for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but I recently had anxiety attack because I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a target and I was with our nine month old son,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had just read a story about a baby

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<v Speaker 1>that passed away and the you know, the arms of

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<v Speaker 1>a mom who was at the Walmart um in El Paso.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second I was in that target, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, how am I going to protect my

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<v Speaker 1>son when a shooter comes in? And so I told

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<v Speaker 1>my about my panic attack and how I had immediately

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<v Speaker 1>left target, and and he was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>babies like I've been thinking too, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about this is like, would you be

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<v Speaker 1>okay if I got to carry a carry carrying license?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like a million percent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to to protect, you know, just to know that we

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<v Speaker 1>can at least protect ourselves and people around us if

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<v Speaker 1>something like that were to happen. It's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>scary reality though too, to have you know, what's how

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<v Speaker 1>do you how do I guess? Like is that is

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<v Speaker 1>that safe? Address it? Let me address it. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>fair question because my fiance gets gets anxiety allso she

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<v Speaker 1>hates going out. I've got Amazon boxes at my door

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<v Speaker 1>every night because she doesn't want to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. And that's all I do. And listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't carry this knife, don't get too far from the

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<v Speaker 1>mic for self defense. I carry this to cut them,

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<v Speaker 1>to put them into boxes so I can get them

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<v Speaker 1>into garbage. I literally bought and just like that for

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<v Speaker 1>that reason. So let me address that. So my primary job,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, for the last seventeen years as a

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<v Speaker 1>body are and then after not eleven, a tiny SWAAN

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<v Speaker 1>team in the middle of nowhere called me. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you do the Israeli thing? Can you train us in?

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<v Speaker 1>That turn into like three thousand police officers and military

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<v Speaker 1>units all over the world. We traveled and Tom, here's

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<v Speaker 1>my training coordinator, and I'm all for it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get to training. The average law enforcement officer has

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<v Speaker 1>to qualify once a year, once a year, and they

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<v Speaker 1>shoot maybe five thousand rounds in the academy. In my unit,

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<v Speaker 1>it was five thousand rounds a week. That Special operations great.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Seal Team, same thing with rangers, same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Delta Delta is even more it's at at

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<v Speaker 1>a more extreme level. So my unit, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>Tier one unit like Delta Force or like dev Grew

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<v Speaker 1>or Seal Team six um, which these units have come

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<v Speaker 1>to to come to the movies more with With with

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Wahlberg and Marcus Lattreelle and you're you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing more of the Special Operations community. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>to training. What I mean is in Israel, anyone who's

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<v Speaker 1>issued a firearm has to go through a minimum of

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<v Speaker 1>forty hours of training, which involves everything from point shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>which is behavioral based. So if you're stressed, what's that

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<v Speaker 1>going to feel like? One? Two firing in and around

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd? What does that look like? When I bring

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<v Speaker 1>in to the Americans, they look at me, They're like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out of your mind. We could never get away

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<v Speaker 1>with that. And my answer is that's because the liability

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<v Speaker 1>of not firing into a crowd is still greater than

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<v Speaker 1>the liability of firing into a crowd. So until that

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<v Speaker 1>becomes congruent and there's more active shooters and terror attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>there cautious about the types of things. They look at

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<v Speaker 1>with me, But then at the end they go, You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that's really smart. Carry the pistol, get the permit.

0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.359
<v Speaker 1>But to get one is easy, you know, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you don't have a felony and fire a few

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<v Speaker 1>bullets at the range of whatever it is you're find.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to train like an animal so that

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<v Speaker 1>while you're carrying with your wife, with your kids, you

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<v Speaker 1>have some blocking capabilities like a bodyguard and how to

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<v Speaker 1>cover them, and how to work into a crowd and

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<v Speaker 1>how to find a single threat with a crowd of

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<v Speaker 1>people running around? Where was it a Walmart? The way

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<v Speaker 1>that was episode? Where were you when you so targets

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.080
<v Speaker 1>like the Jewish Walmart? That's like the jappy Walmart. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a jew, I can say, okay. So so it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same vibe though, right, Like there's gonna be people running everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all gonna be running towards the exit, and

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<v Speaker 1>your instinct is gonna be running also. But law enforcement

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<v Speaker 1>has to run to the threat. So if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it, just get law enforcement great active shooter training

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<v Speaker 1>and there's more of it now than everyone. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be be in touch with me and I can

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<v Speaker 1>connect you with an agency in Nashville. You said, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are so everyone's training is getting better. Just make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you get a lot of training. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in football, everything is like designed to make

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<v Speaker 1>it so it's real when you're in the place. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the football animal exactly, and we call it dry fire.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing you have to be doing drills under stress,

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<v Speaker 1>your heart rate is were what happens to your vision

0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.720
<v Speaker 1>tunnel vision, what happens to you're hearing auditorious sclusion in

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<v Speaker 1>normal reaction? Right, the same stuff that you do in football,

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<v Speaker 1>we do with a gun. So just take that and

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<v Speaker 1>put that on the range and if you want, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make you guys a menu of some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to start looking at training and after you get the

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<v Speaker 1>department and then you feel a little bit better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, it's not making

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<v Speaker 1>her happy because she's not happy, you're not happy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go. I just would love to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go shopping and or go to the mall, or

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<v Speaker 1>go to the freaking church and not feel like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is it gonna happen today here, you know everything,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like you can't go any church, malls, schools.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like not theater anyway. So I just I want

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I want to get off the topic. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about your new movie. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>not even know if we can talk about it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get political, I really don't. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious. You know, they say, because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>our guns to be taken away. I love the right

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<v Speaker 1>to bear arms. I think that's, you know, great, But

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<v Speaker 1>when people say, when they talk about like Australia and

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<v Speaker 1>there's been they don't they can't have guns. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there's no But people say, well, you can find the guns.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you take away the guns, people are always

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<v Speaker 1>going to find the guns. Well, then why haven't they

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<v Speaker 1>found him in Australia. Why haven't there been any shootings. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're never taking guns away from Americans. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a we don't have a second Amendment. In Israel, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>serves in the Israel Defense Forces. So between the ages

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen twenty one, every man and woman picks up

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<v Speaker 1>a rifle and does some type of national service in

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<v Speaker 1>the Israel Defense Forces. Um and nobody has a gun

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<v Speaker 1>out of the army unless your law enforcement so I again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're ever gonna take guns away from Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the Second Amendment is so we even

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<v Speaker 1>into the culture in the fabric of this country because

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<v Speaker 1>let's just cowboy, it's a cowboy country. We've founded this

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<v Speaker 1>whole kind I'm Americans, So this whole country was founded

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<v Speaker 1>on the ability to be able to defend yourselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>so anyways, you're not getting the guns away from Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you can't legislate and get tighter on is

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<v Speaker 1>the mental health restrictions and making sure that people who

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<v Speaker 1>have mental health problems can never get a gun. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with making sure that people who

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<v Speaker 1>own a gun should be checked and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they're checked and maintain that checking so that there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>mental health is just because everybody knows it's a giant

0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.159
<v Speaker 1>mental health problem. Here kind of being muddled with a

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<v Speaker 1>gun problem when it's sort of a combination of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Um A RS or no a RS. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that. Uh, you can do just as

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<v Speaker 1>much damage which with a pistol as you can with

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<v Speaker 1>an a R. Can you do more than you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? That doesn't have most of the shootings

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<v Speaker 1>we see here with the a AR because they're higher

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<v Speaker 1>cap mags and the bullets firedcon is supposed to supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to nine ft per second. The a R is more lethal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a fact. Do you need an a

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<v Speaker 1>R in your house where I use it for home defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not, because I would want frangible rounds that don't

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<v Speaker 1>go through walls and stuff. Um, but um, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful with that because again I'm all four weapons,

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<v Speaker 1>but the training has to be there. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting the guns away from the Americans, then you

0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 1>can regulate the training and then regulate the mental health checks.

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<v Speaker 1>In Israel, if you want a pistol, or you can't

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>even get a rifle. If you want to pistol, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to live either like right near the border of

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<v Speaker 1>Lebanon where there's terror attacks coming, or near the southern

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<v Speaker 1>border in Gaza, and it's to protect your family from

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<v Speaker 1>a terror infiltration. What's been the scariest thing that you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever witnessed during all of your lines of work? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Right when I finished my pipeline in the Israeli Special Forces,

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<v Speaker 1>in the counter terror unit, I was sleeping for like

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<v Speaker 1>three days straight. I couldn't move. I was so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a monster terror attack and this was

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<v Speaker 1>in nineties seven at a mall in Tel Aviv, and

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>it felt like an earthquake because I'd grown up with

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<v Speaker 1>earthquakes and I'm like in my underwear running with my

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<v Speaker 1>m sixteen down the street with an officer of mine

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<v Speaker 1>who I was living with on my team, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were we responded to a deadly terror attack where twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven people were killed and it was like right outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the mall. And then at that moment I realized

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<v Speaker 1>just how ugly the face of terror was because it

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<v Speaker 1>has no name. It has you know what I mean, redbuddies,

0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 1>open target and yeah, and there were not eleven hit.

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<v Speaker 1>After I was out of the army and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the planes hit the towers, I went, well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>it's here. It's here. Unfortunately I'll have a career, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's here. So I would say that decent golf mall

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<v Speaker 1>attack was was terrible because it was on the day

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel's Halloween and there was like kids and costumes

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<v Speaker 1>you know who were who were uh in pain and

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<v Speaker 1>suffering and there's like nothing you can do. And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, all of our pages went off

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire unit got called back, and then for

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<v Speaker 1>the next three months we didn't sleep, just hunting down

0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the architects of that, this terrible wave of attacks in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. I mean, this is the guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>play on your video games, Like this is their real

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>life version, the Jewish version. I mean yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's speechless in some sense just because all this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I could sit with you someone like you for hours,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just don't even know what kind of questions

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I would have. They just keep coming and coming. But

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<v Speaker 1>to get back for our topic ab out you know,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying everything, And I agree with you for sure, Like

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even feel comfortable carrying until I get enough

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>training where I feel confident comfortable, Like you're not gonna

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>get on the field, un listen, right right, I'm not

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna go see if I don't know what I'm going right. Um,

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>But for people that maybe either live in a state

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.919
<v Speaker 1>that has tighter gun laws or don't believe in in

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily you know, weapons or guns to protect themselves, what

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.719
<v Speaker 1>would you advise people who want to still feel secure

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in some way without using Um, good preventative good question

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>smart good preventative measures. Like everything has behavior before it actualizes.

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.360
<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, my girlfriend is trained to look

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>at the cars when she's walking to her car, because

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>if someone's gonna follow you, they're gonna be sitting in

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a car. Look at the vehicles. When you pull out,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you'll see a car. You'll hear a car engine turn on,

0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So get ahead of it, open your eyes and look.

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Situational awareness is like a real thing, Like you can

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Michael all the time because women are buried here and

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>we're in such an Instagram culture, which is great for

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>advertising because you can force feed them what you want

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 1>infiltrate their cell phones with c I A level capabilities,

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, because everyone's on their phone now and we

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>can advertise and make millions of dollars selling whatever we

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>want today. But you gotta get your head out of

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.119
<v Speaker 1>your phone and when you're walking and you're moving, have

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a look at where you're going. Another thing is download

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Find My Friends, Like there's all kinds of great trackings,

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>now download it. You know, Like not only will you

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to find her if her phone dies, yeah then,

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 1>but also if you lose your phone, you can find

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 1>it for her without having the log on, you know

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So, Um, it's just about getting in

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>front of the threats. So looking at cars when you're

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:43.879
<v Speaker 1>walking to your cars, stay away from the night stuff

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>like don't be out at night. There's no reason anywhere

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in the world, you know what I mean. Crime thrives

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>at night. That's where it breathes. It's like a fungus. Um.

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>And um, I'm not a big fan of like self

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>defense training to protect yourself because I don't think it's

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna work under stress unless you're like m M A

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>grade Jennifer for that moment. But if you put a

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>gun in her hands and she's trained, it's the total

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.959
<v Speaker 1>tactical equalizer, you know what I mean. I don't care

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>how big you are or if you're teo or tease.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>You come at her and she fires and put three

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 1>shots in you, you're gonna go down. So there's a

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>reason why you know, weapons exist for self defense, but

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got to be trained to be able to use

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>them under stress. So but I've trained tons of women.

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta see Heywire with Gina Krano. I trained Gina

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>for that movie. She's an m M A fighter. So

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>when she picked up the gun. She was a natural

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>because she could already, you know, do all this stuff.

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I started in movies. And we can

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>get to that whenever. But um, you can learn how

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to shoot weapons. Everybody can and it changes. There's no

0:26:50.040 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>difference between you two with a gun. Period. So great.

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>So my first day with my fiance was she had

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>no idea what I did? Do you want to go shooting?

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sick of this business. I'm like what she

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>must have stocked my Facebook page. I've got my stuff

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 1>on there. I post him here and there and we

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>went and then I and then I said, I sent

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>the target like fifty yards down the range and I go,

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 1>if I hit it, you have to kiss me in

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>our house. I sent it back and I folded the

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>target up like this big. But it's like, that's our story.

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:33.639
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. That So into the movies, right, you you

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>worked on do you work on the earlier MBO to Rambour?

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Last Blood is the one? Yes. I was in john

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Wick and I trained Keanu Reeves for john Wick. I

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>did a portion of his firearms training, so he had

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>about five different instructors he had. He can Machado. He

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>had a whole diet of like really top guys and

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:53.439
<v Speaker 1>I was lucky enough to get in there for all

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of his uh concealed carry work and his room clearing

0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>work and um, so that was for John Wick two

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>kana when I are still pretty tight and um he

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.000
<v Speaker 1>trains all the time, but it's a very perishable thing.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>So that's another thing to remember with training, Like you

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep shooting absolutely it goes down. It's like, so

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>sorry for you. What position did you play? Was a

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>tight end? So what is tight end? Here's the football master? Catch, block,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.959
<v Speaker 1>do everything. So you're like I used to be, like

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to do everything everything, run

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.679
<v Speaker 1>past guys faster than you, block guys bigger and stronger

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>than you, and catch balls. Yes, so that's the real deals.

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 1>He's a football like nerd um. So that's awesome. So John,

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I actually just watched John with three Parabellum, which was

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>watched it. I told you I was going to, but

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care anyways. Anyways, So how how is that

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>working with these do you find yourself where when you

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>work with these actors more of them are are interested

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and locked in? Or do you think it's hard to

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of get their attention and be like, hey, no,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>this is It depends on who it was. So I

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>started off tech advising. Uh. In two thousand and eleven,

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that was my first movie. That was Haywire Um Trained,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Gina Chrono and Channing Tatum before he blew up, like

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>before magic might hit my kid. I was there in

0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the room and he pitched it to Soderberg, and Soderberg

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, I would do that movie. It was like

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I got the stripper movie idea in Florida. It was like,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I would do that movie. And I was like, dude,

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I just saw a hundred fifty million dollar payout happened

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>right like, and that was the real deal. Um. So uh.

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Most of the actors are into it because the action

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>today has the bar has been set so much higher,

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Like throughout the eighties and the nineties was about like

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a single physique with Schwarzenegger Rambo, but then all of

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, after the Matrix changed everything, all of a

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>sudden was about the action. So once John wu came in,

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and the child Skis came in, and and and the

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>martial arts became the star that the level has just

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>continued to grow. So it opened up a market for

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>guys like me to come in and bring great tactical training.

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>So I did a couple of movies and then Soderberg

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>put me in my first movie, which was Hayward and

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>had a tiny of the role with like three lines.

0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Did you love it or you just like oh my god?

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Like I was done. I'm like, wait a second, you're

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna pay me to do what I'm just like I

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>can hustle this. I'm like I And so I did,

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and so we're five movies later. Um the producers of

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Rambo called me up um asked me to join the

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement side of the cast, and Rambo's got a

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>very contentious relationship with law enforcement, going back to First

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Blood with Brian Denny and he's like, listen, it's not

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a huge part, but it's important and we think you

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can carry this. Would you come and play the police

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>State Captain? And I did, And that was coming off

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>another movie I've done with the same company called to

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>eleven with Nick Cage, which is on Netflix, and I

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>had a monster scene with Nick Cage and not like

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>as that it's called to eleven because I just watched

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the Nicholas cage of the gun running one Lords of

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Lords we just saw. So they're turning that into a

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>TV show. I can't I can't see anymore. But that's

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>turning into a TV show and I'm going to be

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>working on that as well. Yes, be a Netflix series. Oh,

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was. I just I just find that fascinating.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>Just I'm like, I want to just go along with you.

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do you know. I'm like, I just

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I want to just for a day, I really truly

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>good for a day. I would just love to just

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>get in the inner workings of that and just see

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the messed upness of everything and how these people are

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>getting those guns, and it's very interesting. I actually wouldn't

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>want to sell the guns in the largest supplier of

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>arms all over the world. So yeah, just hanging out

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.719
<v Speaker 1>with like you know, cult American, Like America sells more

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>guns than anybody. What are you the most scared of?

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you scared of anything? I don't think about fear.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know what I mean. I'm just aggressive,

0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, my my my fears. I don't know. It's

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a good questions. What is there to be afraid of?

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I could be dead already, I'm grateful and beyond scared.

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. There's nothing that you just because like what's

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? But someone's gonna light me up in a

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>movie theater on arms, I could bring it. You walked

0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>into the wrong theater. Oh I want you on every

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>plane every like I want you. I want you to

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and then in and here's the exactly what I was

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>just gonna say, is the same thing. Right in football,

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't scared because I was prepared. I knew what

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I was doing, I was trained. I have that mentality.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>But the difference clearly between me and Scott is that

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you are trained and so in those scenarios like I

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't know necessarily what to do if I'm carrying that,

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but I had the mentality. Right. But that's the thing.

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like, those those kind of scenarios that are going

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>on in the world in our country today, are I

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>still have fear around them because at this current moment

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I am not. You need to catch up and right exactly,

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's that mentality that I just love. Well, you

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>were taught, as I was, how to turn fear into aggression. Yeah,

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and that's a and that's and that's a really important

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>life skill. So I'm not afraid. I'm just like Antsie,

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like let's get more going. You know. I have to

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>move at the pace of like the next thing and

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the next thing, like you know what I mean my

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>fears that I don't get to do it all? What

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do next? I just want to

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>keep supporting actors. I want to be like the next

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Tom size more without can I swear on the show? Yeah?

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Without in all the nonsense that he's done. I just

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>want to take his job because he's no longer welcoming

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>that job. But I'm in that forties right there, which

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is like the sweet spot. I just want to support

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys because we don't have to carry the weight

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of the film, but we can be in like every

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>one of them. We'll take it well. I I just

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I You're fascinating, So thank you for coming on and

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>sharing your wisdom and love and guns and Rambo September theaters.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen it in its entirety yet? I have not,

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh when the premiere, I don't know if they're gonna

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>do in l a premier. Um slides pretty smart. He

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>might do like some social media. Yeah, he's cool. He

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, he was like, so I got my sides

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it was like I shut up on set

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and and I was like, you know, like you know

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone's you know, they they're careful round slide because he's

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>such a legend, and I wanted to run it because

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got a scene with John j He's coming down

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this hill and I'm like, I gotta talk to him

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and so many a couple of lines, but I'm like,

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out to slides, so if he wants

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>to run lines. And I walked over and I go, hey, slowly,

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to run this? And he goes yeah, and

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>and and then like I can't believe you the nerve

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>to ask him, because I wouldn't. I could never do that, Like,

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:48.760
<v Speaker 1>but dude, it's so good to run this, Like gets

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>make it good because he, you know, half wrote the

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>script and he's you know, half directing the movie. He's like,

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a real filmmaker. And it's in Rambo. He's

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>coming down on his horse and it's raining and it's

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like a ten dollars set up, and I'm like and

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I walked over to Slim, like yo, you want to

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>run and he goes and I threw the lines and

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>he goes and he goes, yeah, just like that, and

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like cool, and then I went back to my

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>mark and then it was like and then we shot

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 1>it and then it was awesome. So and everyone needs

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to see it September. Everyone needs to see in September

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty Um. I think this will be the final Rambo.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But he's an incredible shape. He looks amazing. The knife

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that they picked for him is awesome. He goes up

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>against the Mexican cartel, which isn't a new storyline, but

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>it's new for John J. And this is Rambo like

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies. So you're gonna see some like you're

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna like. But we everyone they played it close to

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>how it would really be, so it's a much Yeah,

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it's a much Rambo nine at the v A Right,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>where's my money? Thank you guys so much. Okay, so

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>this is what happens when you're in California because we're

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously um, we did our last podcast in California, last episode,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and so now we know we're um recording again and

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we just had a visitor coming Pop on the show

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so intrigued because I just got a very snipped,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>small snippet of what this is and I just cannot

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.840
<v Speaker 1>wait to hear. So, Michael, would you like to announce

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 1>our podcast? We have and I haven't known much about it.

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit of reading about it when

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I found out that you were going to be on.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>And I've heard of Dirty John, which is apparently like

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the most popular podcast ever. But we have Tara Newell

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>from Dirty John, the original, the one that went through

0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>it all that everything was based off of. Here with

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>us today, So just start. Okay, So my story is

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>my mom married a con artists. This guy ended up

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>being a really bad guy. My mom left him a

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, and the last time that she left him,

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>he ended up coming after me and trying to kill me.

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty five at the time. Yeah, so he

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>tried to kill me and try to stob me. Well

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he did stob me, but I was actually able to

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:32.720
<v Speaker 1>get the knife and defend myself and kill me attacker. Wow.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Have you done a lot of therapy? Yes, so much therapy.

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 1>We're big therapy advocates, and I can't even imagine going

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>through something like that. Yeah. No, I've done actually um

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>E M d R therapy. Yeah, and that's helped so much.

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'm still targeting all my triggers, so I'm still

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>going through it. Did you do visual or audio e

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>M b R um So I did it with the

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:03.439
<v Speaker 1>tappers and then you go through the event and then

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 1>you kind of bounces a brown from image to image

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>when you do it, but they're all correlated together. Wow,

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating. Can I just add in one thing that

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I love? Not love, that's a terrible word to use,

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>but that's very fascinating to me about Tara is how

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>you knew how to attack John because it's it's kind

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>of badass. Oh the walking zad I watched a lot

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of Walking Za, so it's kind of like Monkey Sea

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Monkey You. And then you learn how to hold the

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>knife correctly and to basically kill a zombie but kill

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>a person basically the same thing. You know, Just what

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>did you run away after that? Or what did you Okay?

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>So at first, when someone grabs you, you need to

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>try to flee the scene. You need to try to

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>run away from them because just to fight them your

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>chances kind of go down. Um, So you try to

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>run away and then if you're unable to run away,

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>then you need to start doing anything you can to

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>try to like defend yourself. Where I put my arm up,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:17.439
<v Speaker 1>I blocked my heart, so he stabbed me on my arm,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>my forearm instead of my heart, and then I was

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.839
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of disconnect. I would scream. I bit

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 1>him as hard as I could. I ended up on

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the floor and just I used my feet and my legs,

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>my thighs. You know, your legs are your biggest muscles

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in your body, your largest muscles in your body. So

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you've got to use what um basically you were born

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to do, because we have instincts as a human to survive.

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>So in this case, I used everything I could to

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>survive in that instance. I'm sure you've talked about all

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>of this so much. How many years ago did this?

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>This happened three years ago. I just celebrated my three

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>year anniversary, so it actually is still recent. It's pretty recent,

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like a good amount of time has

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gone by to heal. How did this story become dirty John? Okay,

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>so it was at l a Times story and then

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>it ended up into being a podcast. And what I mean,

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like they just they nicknamed him Dirty John. Why I'm

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so his ex wife Tanya had that nickname for him,

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and when the show was coming to play, they were

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of thinking of like what should we name it

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>in the podcast and stuff, and then she was just like, okay,

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>dirty John. And that's kind of how they got the name.

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>But how did it get picked up to be that?

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Like did she write it? Did she like, who got

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this story to turn it into? Because I mean this

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is I mean, you know there's there's a lot of stories,

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>not a lot of stories, but you know there's con

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>artists and so it's like how to become that? Though,

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>like how did it start to even start that to

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>be a story? Okay, so I believe it was Hannah

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Fry from the Daily Mail. Not the Daily Mail. Um,

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like a local newspaper. They told Christopher Gofford

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 1>about it, and also, um, the prosecuting attorney who was

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>supposed to and prosecute me if I were to be

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>on the wrong side of things kind of Um. He

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>told Christopher Gofford also about it, and then he became

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of intrigued by the story and contacted my mom.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 1>And at this time it was like do we want

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this because it's such a traumatic, yeah,

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a traumatic experience, and I didn't want my name to

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>be out there for something like this, but I honestly

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>prayed about it and I gave it to God and

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I just had the answer that this was gonna help people,

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's actually helped so many people. So that's why

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I put my story out there and how it kind

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>of came out there. That's has it with As much

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>as you talked about this, does it get easier every

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>time you do or is it still something that just

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>every time it's still just kind of hits that chord

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 1>of triggers a little bit. Um there's a sense of

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:27.400
<v Speaker 1>me being disconnected to it. Now. I talk about certain

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>things that I want to talk about. I don't talk

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about things that necessarily bother me, that triggered me, Like

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about like the hospital that triggers me because

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm scared to death of hospitals. And then it was

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>like my personal space after being attacked and then going

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>into intensive care, not intensive care, but the trauma unit.

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>They touch you everywhere. And when I say like everywhere,

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it's everywhere and they're poking you with it was so

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of like re traumatizing to me. So

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the part that's triggering to me. And then just

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>if I smell blood, then that's triggering. Why why did

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he come after you? I didn't not go after your mom,

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like you know. He went after my mom the night before,

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but he was in unable to get into her apartment complex.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if he came after me the

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>next day because I was an easier target or if

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just so when he was going after it

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>from the beginning, because he had my Facebook page printed out,

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like where I worked. He called my work the day before,

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>so it was premeditated. We're during the whole like prosecute

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 1>the process after the fact, right, we'd like to think

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that the justice system is going to do the right thing.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But did any part of you have any fear of, well,

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 1>what if they mess this up somehow? Like what if

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 1>someone tries to manipulate the situation and they try to

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>put something on me? So John has done that with

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>so many other people, but I killed him, so I

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that fear of him turning that around on me.

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>But I did after a few months when I heard

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that the case wasn't closed. Then I was like, am

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I going to get arrested for this? But I was

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like I shouldn't because it was strictly self defense. I

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.439
<v Speaker 1>tried to flee away from him, I tried to run,

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I defended myself. There was nothing that I wanted to

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 1>harm this person. What hurts you the worst with saying

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>what you just said, um that I honestly had to

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 1>take another person's life. But I remember that they're evil

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 1>and that helps. Yeah, I mean you shouldn't. Hopefully you

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>always remember that because you know, I come from an abuse,

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 1>abusive relationship who he tried to kill me, and I remember,

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.879
<v Speaker 1>like you know, but they make you think that it's

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>your your fault. So I just want you to not

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 1>twist that that's my only And I'm sure, I'm sure

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you've done so much work, but well, thank you for

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 1>sharing that with me. Also, I respect that it's just

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's such evil people out there and people

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be aware to look out for red flags

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and um the signs because there's so many cases that

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 1>women are abused in you know, their person that supposedly

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>loves them tries to harm and kill them. Do you

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 1>work with any shelters like Safe Horizon. So right now

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I work with Safe Passion, Safe Passage heels Um. I

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>am doing a five k run for them on September amazing. Well,

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Is any of this, Janna, Is any of

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>this triggering for you? Yeah, I'm but in a way

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, because she got out, we got out,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and it was like it could have been so much worse.

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>We're survivors, but but I just I can't imagine, like

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.319
<v Speaker 1>because I tried to fight back, you know, I ended

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>up getting like choked where I lost breath, but you

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>know I couldn't. Yeah, I just to know what you

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 1>had to do the extra level. I mean that just

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you were you were surviving and you you know, you

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 1>saved your life, and I just the trauma with all

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 1>of that is just very overwhelming, I'm sure. And yeah,

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean and just thinking. I mean, my guy, my

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>abuser was he was a complete conartist, and he had

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>million different last names, and it was in jail for

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 1>things I had no idea about, took out credit cards

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and you know my mom's names, and you know, we

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 1>had no idea about any of it. So it's just

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the list adds up. You know. He was targeting my

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>mom before we even knew. He took out so much money,

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>and he took out like three hundred thousand dollars of

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hers And it's just so scary because people are out

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 1>there and they will do this to you. Yeah, and

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just but the women, that's it's just the staying

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in it is like the hard thing because it's like

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>when you're hearing like, oh yeah, I got back right

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 1>after he said I was gonna you know, right back

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:20.319
<v Speaker 1>to his bed right after he said he was gonna

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>kill me. But that's so the cycle, I know. And

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what if anyone any women and men listening, because

0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it is both ways, you know, um that you that's

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>hardest thing. I don't even know what to say because

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, when you're in that moment, you don't know,

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>like you don't, you can't you can't see until you're

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Yes, No, it's really hard to walk away. Yeah,

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.879
<v Speaker 1>he's part of the trauma, to say, prize, And that's

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 1>where I wouldn't wish I would have. He was part

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.399
<v Speaker 1>of the trauma. Maybe also playing the scenario like what if,

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>like what if you didn't you weren't able to do

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 1>what you had to do. Yeah, she would have died, right,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like make up. I don't know. I haven't

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.920
<v Speaker 1>experienced something that traumatic, but is that part of your

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>trauma is going through and like, what if something the

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 1>negative consequence would have happened? I mean, now you're going

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to make me cry. I'm it was just like my

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>nieces and nephews, like heaven forbid if anything happened to them,

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I would have tried to kill this guy like

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times. So for like, it's just like my family.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He was coming after my family and families everything to me.

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's just so emotional thinking that what

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 1>if it could have been one of them? So I'm

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>so thankful it was me. That actually makes sense, totally

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Another thing too, is I think, Mike, maybe

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.919
<v Speaker 1>you can get from the anxiety standpoint, Like why I

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 1>have such bad anxiety when I feel trapped is because

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I am He's on top of me in that moment

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and I can't escape. So that's why I like, I

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time I expressed because it's like you like,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that's my PTSD and as the moment I got it,

0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I have such a bad anxiety. Now,

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 1>it's like when I feel trapped anywhere I go, all

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I envision is him on me and I can't escape

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>because what would have I thought I was dying in

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>that moment, right, So that's the like anxiety there, which

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I feel that. Like there's sometimes when I

0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:20.080
<v Speaker 1>go to country festivals and it's like I have to

0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 1>feel every exit. Yeah, I know, every exit. I have

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to have space. And people touched me then I kind

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of freak out on them and it's not because they're

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:32.120
<v Speaker 1>like a bad person or anything. It's just because my

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>boundaries are being breached. How is this, let's take a

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 1>turn a little bit. How is this maybe affected or

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.320
<v Speaker 1>not affected your personal life as put in an aspect

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of dating or like are you dating? Are you married?

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Or you say, like, what's your relationship and how much

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>has this affected it. I'm I'm definitely not married. How

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm tony a love things, um, but I am dating

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:01.439
<v Speaker 1>people here and there, and I'm trying too well. This

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:05.240
<v Speaker 1>is honestly like a reoccurring problem with or without the trauma.

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to self sabotage relationships because welcome to

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>wind down. Yeah, because it's so easy. Yeah, but it's like,

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you find a great guy and then

0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>he does not do like one thing that makes you happy,

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, okay, I'm gonna just turn it all

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:27.360
<v Speaker 1>around on him. And then you're like, I'm going to

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:31.120
<v Speaker 1>sell sabotage myself. So I'm learning right now not to

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>do that. And how's your mom? She's doing all right.

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>She has a new boyfriend and we like him. I

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>really do a nice, nice guy. Yeah. No. So he's

0:50:42.760 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>from Newport and that's like kind of where I grew up.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 1>So I've asked a round about him. My sister has,

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can find any dirt on anyone in Newport.

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's like he was just like a guy that

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>went to the bars and now he's like kind of

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.479
<v Speaker 1>find the love of his life. So it's like it's

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.120
<v Speaker 1>really cute. And he takes such good care of my mom.

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. Yeah, he gets her massages twice a week. Yeah,

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>he probably even, Um, do you get any do they

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>have to come to talk to you when they do

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the dirty john stuff? I am? So I'm actually officially

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.839
<v Speaker 1>out of that contract, so not anymore. Okay, So you're

0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:28.320
<v Speaker 1>okay out of it. Were you in in the beginning

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>with the show with the Connie Britton and all that.

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I am so I was kind of involved with that,

0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't really have a say in anything. It

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>was more so they kind of took it and did

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted. It was more so Alexandra Alexandra hunting

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Hand's version of Dirty John. Okay, I've never talked to

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody that's had a story based on them or based

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>around fact in their life. How was that to see

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, if you've listened, if you've listened

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to podcast, if you watch the show or movie, whatever

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it is, how is that to see something that happened

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in your life and it not be exact in the

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>factual element. It was interesting, Like it was so triggering

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>actually because so many of that did hats your life. Yeah,

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and but there was like some things that didn't happen

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly the way it happened, and I'm just like, Okay,

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>that's a little off. And I honestly needed those parts

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.360
<v Speaker 1>because then it brings you back to reality. I'm watching

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>something not real. I can get that. So it's really cool,

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's also triggering. Yeah, Well, Tara, thank you for

0:52:39.440 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>popping in and chatting with us on Wine Down, and

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I just yeah, I have a lot of love for you,

0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>my heart, and thank you for on our podcast. We're

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>all about being very open, very honest, and our whole

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>goal is to help people in their relationships because we

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<v Speaker 1>people not feel so alone and what they have to

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<v Speaker 1>I do you for doing that. Yeah, well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought's honestly my life goal now. And and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can obviously can imagine you can, but you can Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>please take this class. You don't like my s I

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<v Speaker 1>where my son glasses? That is no, but see, I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't. I mean, can you imagine self defense or

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:17.000
<v Speaker 1>not taking someone's life. You and I have kind of

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>talked about this if we would be able to, and

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:24.239
<v Speaker 1>we both agreed the only way would be if for you,

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<v Speaker 1>the only way would be family self defense, self defending,

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>defending my defending me and my family. I mean I

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>would I would truly hurt someone very badly if they

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:40.320
<v Speaker 1>ever hurt my kids, you know. And this is especially

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.760
<v Speaker 1>with the theme of today's show with like Aaron on earlier,

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:48.200
<v Speaker 1>who's I didn't even ask him, but he's definitely killed people. Okay,

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he was in special Ops. Is really special Ops? Like, yeah,

0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 1>he's killed people. So I don't mean to be disrespectful

0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to anyone who has either serve this country down whatever

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and had to take a life. I feel like, um,

0:56:05.200 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have a problem with it in the right circumstance,

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Like if someone hurt Jolie or j Yes, like I

0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, oh absolutely, Like without hesitation would not

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>have an issue. So again I say that just purely

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>out of my own emotion and how I feel as

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a human being. But but here's playing god. You're taking

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 1>someone's life. Do you think you could be on a

0:56:28.239 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>jury with a death penalty case because I could not

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 1>do it. I could not do it. Yeah, I think

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I could depending on the circumstance in that situation. But again,

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 1>like by you taking someone's life, and again I'm saying

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I probably could too if it's my children, or if

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm defending, like if if if I if I could

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>have gouged, you know, and and hurt Mike, I mean

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I want I want to live in that moment, but

0:56:56.200 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and not Mike is sorry my views are Mike, but

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.600
<v Speaker 1>um so yes, But at the same time, if it's

0:57:03.600 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a situation where we go out, so in that situation,

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 1>see if someone but if someone hurts our kid, which

0:57:09.360 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>again I could see red and I can see doing it.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But then again, you are playing God in that sense

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>where you're coming and you're saying, all right, but it's

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 1>not it's not necessarily it is a choice. But at

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it's not. It's it is when you're

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>not there though in that moment for the right reasons,

0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it's protecting. But what if I'm saying, I'm saying, if

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like a Julia Roberts that one movie where if

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>she they had already you go back for revenge to

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:40.280
<v Speaker 1>kill the person. That's what I'm saying, of course protection,

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying it to go back to revenge. So

0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like say someone harmed one of you three, Yeah, like

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they killed one of us and I didn't get them

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 1>in the act, I would still be able to do it,

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I believe. Again, I don't mean that to any disrespect

0:57:56.920 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>to anyone who has had to do that, but I

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 1>just feel, knowing who I am as a person, I

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like I would be So then here's my question,

0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>would you still do that even let's say let's say

0:58:08.360 --> 0:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>let's say they hurt God forbid, one of our children.

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Would you then go kill someone? But then now you're

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>in jail and you're away from one of our kids. No,

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying no, I'm not at all saying that.

0:58:21.240 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying I would be able to. But that is

0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:28.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely different situation because then then, yeah, then whoever's remaining,

0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 1>who's still living, you're screwing over twice there he lost somebody.

0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Now they're gonna lose you for murder charges. Now. One

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of my absolutely there is where that's a judicial system.

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:49.600
<v Speaker 1>But a movie that I've always loved enough, such a

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:53.439
<v Speaker 1>good movie. Q Jackman love that movie, Jake, Jake, Jolan

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>hall Uh, Terence Howard. That is a movie that impacts

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.000
<v Speaker 1>me so lately because what Hugh Jackman does is something

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that I could see. Didn't didn't they imprison him? They

0:59:06.080 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like that was the Yeah, they're like trapped, Yeah, imprison them.

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's just I feel so much emotion when I watched

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>that movie because I just feel like that's something that

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I would just it would be hard for me just

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to give it up to somebody else to take care of.

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I would want to see justice, for sure, and sometimes

0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 1>justice I don't think it is served properly. I mean

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>in in situations for sure, especially when you know jails

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:36.600
<v Speaker 1>are overcrowding too. I mean remember when Mike got sentence

0:59:36.640 --> 0:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>my abuser and it was like, you supposed to serve

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>what nine years? And he got out in like four

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>or five? Mike, wait what you know? But anyways, it's crazy,

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. I'm glad she Yeah, it seems like she's,

0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, handling it the best that anyone could handle

0:59:56.640 --> 1:00:02.280
<v Speaker 1>a situation like this. Yeah, you know, mm hmm crazy.

1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>What an episode though, It's the whole theme of the

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 1>episode has been very powerful. I know. I'm excited to

1:00:10.640 --> 1:00:11.800
<v Speaker 1>wind down again next week