1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The That's the sunnd of Sunshine 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: come in down. Addition, as the Bengals hit their bye 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: week on a high note after ending the first half 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: of the season with a victory over the five and 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: one Tennessee Titans, coming up, Dave Lapham joins me to 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: discuss the latest Bengals news. Plus we'll hand out first 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: half of the season awards like MVP, Biggest Surprise, and 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Biggest Disappointment, complete with some spiffy Award show background music. 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: And since Joe Burrow has officially been the big story 11 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: of the season to date, we'll discuss his play so 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: far with a pair of former NFL quarterbacks, Phil Simms 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: and J. T. O'Sullivan. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: by bud Light Seltzer ref the Game and here's a 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, or computer 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing since snack sized candy bars. There's 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot of candy left over in the Hoarde household 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: after Halloween, and it's all what's labeled on the bag 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: as snack sized. I'll admit it, we're not the much 22 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: loved house in the neighborhood that hands out full sized 23 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: candy bars on Halloween, but we do give each kid 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: a few different snack sized bars for the variety. The 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: point of all this is that I don't really need 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: a full sized candy bar. For example, one Reese's peanut 27 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: buttercup does the trick and I don't feel guilty for 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: eating it. Of course, with all of the leftover candy 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: we have in the house, I wind up grabbing several 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the day, But at least in theory, 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: the snack sized candy bar is perfectly satisfying. Now let's 32 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: get to football. The Bengals hit the halfway point of 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: the season with a record of two five and one, 34 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: but the second half includes several games that look extremely winnable, 35 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: as they faced the two and five Washington Football team, 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: the two and six Cowboys, the one in six Texans, 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: and the one and seven Giants. And keep in mind 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: that the Bengals took the lead to the fourth quarter 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: in six of their first eight games, so a strong 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: second half seems very possible. This is the Bengals by week, 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: and it was also NFL trade deadline week. The deadline 42 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: was Tuesday at four pm, and that's where I start 43 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: this week's conversation with my broadcast partner Dave Lappham. Big 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: news broke about eleven minutes after the deadline. The Bengals 45 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: have added Brian Allen to the practice squad. He's appeared 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: in seventeen NFL games. So that was the only news 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: on the day of the trade deadline. It came and went, 48 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: John Ross is still here? Were you surprised? Not shocked, 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: not totally shocked, because honestly, as we saw with the 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, he's an injury away from being a factor, 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: you know. And and if you've got guys that know 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: your system and you can plug right in with COVID, 53 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: you know everything that goes along with bringing guys off 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: off of other football teams and brow the calls and everything, 55 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: you know. I guess number one, there was no value 56 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: that they are. There wasn't Nobody felt that he was 57 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: worth what the Bengals thought he was worth. Obviously if 58 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: they were trying to trade him and couldn't do it, 59 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: particularly with the fact that, Okay, if there is an injury, 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: we can use them, So you got to offer me 61 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: more than what you're offering, And maybe they didn't get 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: much of any offer at all. So they decided stand 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: pat and finished the season with John Ross and he'll 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: be going elsewhere after the season, and people are going 65 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: to be, oh, I didn't you move John Ross and 66 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: get something. You don't know what there was offered, if anything, 67 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: that's the big deal. That's the big question. So that's 68 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: and then Billy Price, you know, was another one that 69 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: people might have been thought thinking about a little bit. 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: And you just give him a game ball and he's 71 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: playing pretty well. Trey Hopkins, who was out there at 72 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: practice today. I stopped by after picking up some media 73 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: information for the football for the bye week in the 74 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh upcoming football game, and Bobby Hart was on the 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: rehab field, Jonah Williams was on the rehab field, Joe 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Mixon was on the rehab field, but Trey Hopkins was 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: out there doing things. They weren't doing much the part 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: of practice we're able to watch, but he was out 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: there as well as Michael Jordan was out there so 80 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: they were lining up at their respective positions, but without 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: those two tackles out there on the rehab field, he 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: had Identagy was lined up at the left tackle position 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: and Big Fred was lined up at the right tackle position. 84 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: As they were going through things early stages of practice. 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Unfortunately this time of year, we can't watch much of practice, 86 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: but I would be very interested to know how John 87 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: Ross is going to handle this. He publicly has come 88 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: out asking for a trade. If you're not going to 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: use me, trade me, that's understandable. On the other hand, 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: is he going to mope? Is he going to show 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: up but go through the motions, or at some point 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: is he going to say, basically, screw you, I'm better 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: than Mike Thomas, or I'm better than Alex ericson whoever 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: he thinks he's better than in his own Maybe he 95 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: thinks he's better than Tyler Boy. Who knows, But is 96 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: he going to have that attitude? Do you know what, 97 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: I've got eight games left here, I'm going to be 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of this season. I'd 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: like to get a good offer from somebody. I'm going 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: to go out there bust my tail at practice in 101 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: hopes that maybe I'll get the opportunity to do something. Well. 102 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I think his agent has probably said, look, the trade 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: deadline passed, you didn't get traded. Don't do anything to 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: hurt your value worse, you know, just go out and 105 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: do what they're asking you to do. He was out 106 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: there at practice today with a helmet and pads on, 107 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: just like everybody else. You know, the little little tiny 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: shoulder pads. It wasn't a physical day today obviously at all. 109 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: And you know, bottom line is if you do have 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: your opportunity, get ready to capitalize on it. The thing 111 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: that he should do is watch the offensive line. What 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: those guys did, all five of them get a chance 113 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: to shine. A four of the five. Alex Redmond hoop 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I thought, played his best game of the year against Tennessee. 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: He was knocking people around, man, telling you he in 116 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Spain when they were double teaming those down linemen. They 117 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: were moving those guys. And I'm telling you watching tape 118 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: prepping for that Tennessee Simmons was a load. People weren't 119 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: moving him. I mean they moved him against his will, 120 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: and they moved them on both sides of it, you know, 121 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Spanning Redmond working Billy price. Oh man, it was like, yeah, 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I like that. I'm telling you. Get a little movement boys, 123 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: make those linebackers have to move around things or put 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: them in their lap. That was all good. So take 125 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: your queue from them. Look at what they did. They 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: were ready. You know, they they practiced hard, they studied 127 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: in the meetings, they did the extra work trying to 128 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: get themselves better. When you're oportunity presents itself, capitalize. Don't 129 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: make be in a situation where you can't take advantage 130 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: of your opportunity because that's only going to enhance his 131 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: opportunity as a free agent if more than one team's 132 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: interested in you. When you're done with the Bengals, you know, 133 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: it's just market whatever the market will bear. Right now, 134 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: there wasn't much of a market, or it it wasn't much 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: on the market in terms of the Bengals eyes again 136 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: to say we're going to just let him go for 137 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: nothing or whatever and we're not going to cut him. 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: We'll wait till the season's over and see how it 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: all goes down. But you know, that's that's the nature 140 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: of the beast. That's the way it is in the 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and you know today he 142 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: was doing. He was over his illness. It was no 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: illness today. He was out there running around. Everything was fine, 144 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: no problems whatsoever. I wonder the Michael Jordan thing, though, 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: it's a little bit scary, you know, Michael Jordan. I 146 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it flu, migraines, food poisoning, whatever it was. 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: But he ended up he went down there to the 148 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: stadium and they sent him to the hospital and it 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: wasn't COVID nineteen. They knew it wasn't COVID nineteen related. 150 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: He had tested and you know, there was nothing there, 151 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: but he had something cooking, something going on. So it 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: was a major issue. But he was out there today, 153 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: which was good. Good sign. Trey Hopkins in the early stages, 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: very early stages, he was kind of standing in the 155 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: back of everything, but he had his helmet on and 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: ready to go. And then once they started going through 157 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: some plays, he jumped right in there at his center position. 158 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: And you know, Billy Price was obviously they're doing his 159 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: work today, as was this is the guy that I'm 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: really intrigued b J. Finney. I wonder if he threw 161 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: they threw his name out there and said, you know what, 162 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: anybody interested in b J. Finney. You know, we don't 163 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: need three centers necessarily. They can all play guard, but 164 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: their best position is center. When Finney, you know, when 165 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: he jumped there in there for the Pittsburgh Steelers, I 166 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: mean they have a Pro Bowl center who goes down 167 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: and he steps in there. I thought he played his 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: tail off. I thought he played really well. So I 169 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: got a big deal from Seattle this offseason, no doubt, 170 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: no doubt. And for whatever reason, you know, it fell 171 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: apart out there. I think it was the same thing. 172 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Spain signs a big deal, Finney signs a big deal. 173 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: They're not starters. Got a little ashy, sure, a little 174 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: bit of ancy, you know, between the and the and 175 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: the organization's side. Let's just move on. Well, suddenly there 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: is an action, actually a glut of offensive lineman. Who 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: would have thought that right on the Bengals roster. But 178 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: you got the four tackles Jonah, Bobby Hart, Fred Johnson 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: and Hikimadenagy. And then you've got this massive pile of 180 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: interior guys, Trey Hopkins, Billy Price, Michael Jordan, Alex Redmond, 181 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: Quentin Spain, b J. Finney, Xavier Sue Philo, is expected 182 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: to be back sometime soon. Keaton Sutherland still on the 183 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: main roster. Shaq Calhoun is back on the practice squad. 184 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: But that's nine interior guys. Now you can have veterans 185 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. So yeah, so you can hold 186 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: onto these guys. But man, you get a lot of guys, right, 187 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: You can protect a number of your practice squad players 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: in Spain since you wasn't the practice squad active for 189 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: the game, went back to the practice squad. You know 190 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: they've gotten protected. Who knows how it all? And you know, 191 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: shakes down. Honestly, next week's practice is going to be 192 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: interesting because you know, there's two schools of thought and 193 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: here's here's the interesting dichotomy as such that the Bengals 194 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: are facing. Because I'm sure over the last year and 195 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: a half, the offensive line coaches would say saying to 196 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: the owners, we got to have we can't have this 197 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: revolving door, you know, left tackle, that was ridiculous. We 198 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: need to get five guys and let five guys work 199 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: together and five guys become one. You know, like you're 200 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: making a fist, four fingers, wrap the thumb, curl the 201 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: four fingers. That's the way we want to play. Now, 202 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have five guys that show 203 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: up in this game and they show they can play. Well, 204 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: you know what, we'd like to play a lot of 205 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: guys because we get guys capable to play. And that's 206 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: the difference. When they were saying to the organ say 207 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: so we need to get five guys and hopefully live 208 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: through a five guy, they didn't have five guys. They 209 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: didn't have has to fill out an offensive line. Now 210 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: as you say there's a glut and these guys can 211 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: all play, and there's not. I don't think there's a 212 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: huge difference between hardly any of them. I think they're 213 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: all capable. In NFL starters, you can only have five 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: quote starters, and to me, starter it's it's so over 215 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: we're overused whatever. But I know it's contract related all that, 216 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: and it's dollars and cents. But if you have seven 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: or eight linemen that can play, play them, if they're 218 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: all good enough to play, play them, so all of 219 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's like all right, Well, Michael Jordan, you 220 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: know you're gonna play the first three series Spain, You're 221 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: in for a series on the right side, you know, 222 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: Alex you're gonna go a couple of series, and Xavier, 223 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna go a series, and then we'll see and 224 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: then just because if you have a if you have 225 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: a utility player in baseball who can play, you don't 226 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: go twenty twenty five games thought I'm doing anything. So 227 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: you have you have lineman that show they can play, 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: and that's good. So if a guy gets damed or 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: guys in effect, boom, you make a move. But if 230 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: everybody stays healthy and everybody's playing at a decent level, 231 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: don't let those guys rot on the bench. They showed 232 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: they can play. Let them go in there and stay sharp, 233 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: because God forbid, if something does happen to somebody, now 234 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't just yeah that was a game, but well 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: that's a month ago. Man, You've got to knock off 236 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: the rust and dustin. So if you've got players that 237 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: a meritocracy, if you've got players that, during the course 238 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: of practice and then in game tape, have shown that 239 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: they should play in the National Football League, let them play. 240 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I've seen situations in college football. They'll play ten guys, 241 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: they'll have two lines, they'll have shifts like in hockey. 242 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Boom boom, the whole offensive line will shift. That's happened 243 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: in games that I've covered. So, I mean there's there's 244 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: two schools of thought, and I think the school that 245 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you go to is based on how many students do 246 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: you have that can pass the test? You know, I mean, 247 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: if you have smart enough guys that can go play 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: and play well enough, let them play. Billy Price got 249 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: a game ball yep. After last week's victory over Tennessee. 250 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: Here's my question. How his his play in the last 251 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: two games compared to Trey Hopkins play before that. I think, 252 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, solid, I think he's been solid, you know. 253 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I think that the penalty issue is greater than him 254 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: down and rightfully, so, you know, you can't have holding penalties. 255 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: You can't be jumping, you know, as you pointed out 256 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: during the game, they went into the game with sixteen 257 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: false start penalties and they got two more. They were 258 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: number one in the NFL most penalized with false starts 259 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: thirty second they're remaining there, which is not a good 260 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: place to be. So you know that that will that 261 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: will hurt you. But I don't think I don't think 262 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: Billy's play necessarily has should unseat Trey Hopkins because he 263 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: got a concussion, but he's playing well. Before we get 264 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: to our first half of the season awards, complete with 265 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: authentic awards show music. Here's a quick reminder that the 266 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Light Seltzer. It's light 267 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Burrow, We'll 268 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: look to throw. He's gonna throw it up the sideline, 269 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: back shoulder, throw on and take comes down with the 270 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: ball on the titan sideline. It's a catch and that 271 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: should be coffin nailam bam. We've hit the halfway point 272 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: of the season, and you know what that means. It's 273 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: time to hand out some first half awards. Not the Grammys. 274 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: We call these the Shrammys in honor of Bengals media 275 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: relations assistant Pete shram who goes above and beyond to 276 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: help us out. So he's great our first half Shrammy's 277 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: let's start with the MVP. Who's your MVP in the 278 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: first half? Lap Well, I have to go with Joe Burrow. 279 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Burrow is living up to and beyond. 280 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: I think what people expected Dan he made more than 281 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: a handful of like jaw dropping throws and plays. I 282 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: mean the touch he puts on, the feathery touch that 283 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: he puts on these passes, with the arc that just 284 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: drops down out of the sky to these tight little 285 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: spots these windows are incredible. And he's got so much 286 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: confidence in a short period of time. I mean without 287 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: OTAs and mini camp and training camp, and you know 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: they did have some training camp, but no preseason games. 289 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: He's gotten to a level of trust and confidence with 290 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: his receivers that is remarkable. I mean, everybody said he's 291 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: mature beyond his years. He's playing beyond his years. There 292 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: are veteran quarterbacks in the National Football League that are 293 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: watching Joe Burrow and play and saying, my god, does 294 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: he have poise and confidence. How about the music? I 295 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: love it, jim Jimmy Sandy getting it done. He's producing 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: for us today. That is the theme music for the 297 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Shrammy's My MVP is obviously Joe Burrow as well. He's 298 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: gotta be on a pace to pass for more than 299 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: forty five hundred yards as a rookie, which would be 300 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: a Bengals record and a rookie record. But here's the 301 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: one other thing I'm going to add that has wowed 302 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: me about Joe Burrow. And we knew this about him, 303 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: but when you see it face to face, it really 304 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: does resonate. The toughness. Yeah, twenty eight sacks, sixty six 305 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: quarterback hits, keep getting up with a smile on his face, 306 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: firing a strike on the next play. So, for all 307 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: of the reasons you described and a few from me, 308 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: a well deserving first half MVP, my next guy would 309 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: be his number one, Tyler Boyd. Thirty six first down 310 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: reception is tied from most in the NFL. Thirty seven 311 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: first downs overall, thirty six are receiving, and he's moving 312 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: the chains, and he is Joe Burrows guy. It's very 313 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: obvious that they have something special brewing. So he's your 314 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: second most valuable player would be and mine would be 315 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates. I'll take one from defense. Highest graded safety 316 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL according to Pro Football focused by a 317 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: wide margin more than ten points in their system. Couple 318 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: of interceptions, eight pass breakups, the passer rating on passes 319 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: throne to him in coverage or when he's in coverage 320 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty two point one. That's how good he's been as 321 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: a past defender. Younger than Joe Burrow. He is my 322 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: second most valuable player, My second most valuable just edged 323 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: out Carlos Dunlap, just by Scotia. All right, biggest surprise 324 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: of the first half, Dave Lap, I'm fire away. The 325 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: biggest surprise of the first half is what occurred in 326 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: last week's game, the offensive line playing to the level 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: they did, Dan, I cannot tell you how hard it 328 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: is for them to accomplish what they accomplished. I mean, 329 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: it's it's mind boggling, honestly. You know, as a former linement, 330 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I look at it, and I look at the table 331 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: room like this is historic. I mean, you have eighty 332 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: percent of the guys not you know, have not even 333 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: a handful of now Spain had starts, six years experience, 334 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: but not next to these guys. And I'm telling you 335 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: it's not as easy as people think. It's not like 336 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: rolling out of bed and line up next to a guy. 337 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: And you show up on Friday and you have a 338 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: walkthrough in the head coach's office with the line coach 339 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: and the assistant line coach and some of the offensive 340 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: line members, and they're giving you a crash course on 341 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: terminology and language. And you know, then they've realized anah. 342 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: This guy does understand football. He sees the big picture, 343 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: he understands the concepts here. I think we're gonna be okay. 344 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: And then you know, the next day or the day 345 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: after that walk through. The very next day, you're you're 346 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: on the football field and Shaq Calhoun, god love him, 347 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: jumps offside, whiffs on Clowney, and I think Jim Turner says, 348 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: like Paul Brown used to say, the game's a little 349 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: too big for you. Right now, I'm going to the 350 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: bullpen bringing the right hand or actually Spain's left handed, 351 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: using that left handed stands bringing the lefty. And I 352 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: feel good about him and the way he played. Come on, 353 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean I do remember I mentioned this before. Mike 354 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: Wilson got traded to Seattle on a Wednesday, and he 355 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: played on a Sunday. The advantage he had Blair Bush 356 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: was the center. Blair Bush knew the exact vaccine calls 357 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: that Mike Wilson knew with the Bengals. So he would 358 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: say to Mike Wilson, what we're doing here is exactly 359 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: this is what it was in Cincinnati. So he had 360 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: a translator that was like a un translator. I mean, 361 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: it was much easier Spain didn't have that luxury, you know, 362 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: and man to do what he did and everybody else 363 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: that stepped up and played in that game. To me, 364 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: by far, that was the biggest surprise of the first 365 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: half of the season. My biggest surprise is also an 366 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I'm going to caution people who might 367 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: be listening in their cars they're driving home, have both 368 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: hands on the wheel when I say this. Bobby Hart. 369 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Coaches always say he's better than you think. He's better 370 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: than Pro Football Focus says, well, guess what Pro Football 371 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: Focus finally agrees. I'm not here to make the case 372 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: that Bobby Hart is great. We know he's not. But 373 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus has him ranked as the thirty eighth 374 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: best tackle in the NFL so far this year, ahead 375 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: of Jake Matthews, Anthony Costanzo, Carlton Miller, Taylor Lawan, and others. 376 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams is twenty seventh best, so a little bit 377 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: better than Bobby easily best among the first year tackles. 378 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is he's actually been okay. 379 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: I think he's having the best year he's had as 380 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: a Bengal there's no doubt about that. And I think 381 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: what he did in the offseason to prepare himself for 382 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: the season, um and the commitment that he made, I 383 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: think are paying off. It was it was sad to 384 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: see him get hurt because he's I know, I know 385 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: the line coaches believe in him. They are in his 386 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: corner without question. I mean one's one's rubbing him down, 387 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: the others taking care of cuts as the cutman in 388 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: the corner man, they're they're working on him and getting 389 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: him ready to go. So there's no question in my 390 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: mind that I think as guys come back from injury 391 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams with the sting or Bobby Hart with the knee, 392 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna They're not gonna lose their jobs 393 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: because of injury. And five offensive lineman playing a really 394 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: good football game. Again, I'm not trying to be smirched 395 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: or belittle the Tennessee Titans. They ain't no Pittsburgh Steelers, 396 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: there ain't no Baltimore Ravens and these other guys have 397 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: experienced it, gone through it, and there's something to be 398 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: said for that, because I'm telling you, when you get 399 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: into that situation, you think, you think you might be ready, 400 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: but then it's rush hour and it's there's so many 401 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: people and doing so many things, and what were the rules? 402 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: And that's the other thing that I want to, you know, 403 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: give some credit to Jim Turner and the rules simple, 404 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: a few rules applying to so many different things. That 405 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest reasons they were able to 406 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: accomplish what they accomplished because Jim Turner makes this system 407 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: kiss keep it simple, stupid, don't overcomplicate it. And guys 408 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: were able to adapt and adjust very very quickly. And 409 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a tribute to the teacher who gave 410 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: you the tools and taught you how to properly implement them. 411 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: The Shrammy's continue with your biggest disappointment of the first half. 412 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: My biggest disappointment would be everybody they spent money on 413 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: a free agency is on IR. You know, I mean 414 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: Trey Wayne's we haven'tn't seen him yet, you know, DJ Reader, 415 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Mike Daniel's on IR. Everybody they paid money to get 416 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: in free agency has been hurt. And then throwing Gino Atkins, 417 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, with the shoulder injury. The defensive line I 418 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: thought was going to be a strength of the football game, 419 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: football team, and you know, the thing unravels with Carlos. 420 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: He's now a Seattle Seahawk. God bless him, good luck 421 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: to him. Hopefully both parties benefit. But you know, Gino 422 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: playing like a one armed paperhanger, and that's that's hard 423 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: to hang that wallpaper with one arm. It's and it's 424 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: difficult to play defense, attackle with one arm. I can 425 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: tell you that. And then the injuries. That's my biggest 426 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: disappointment is the defense has never looked the way I 427 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: thought it was going to look because everybody they paid 428 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: big money foreign free and then Xaviers Touaphila as well. 429 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: I mean, my biggest disappointment is free agent dough and 430 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: it was a bunch of its spent well over one 431 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: hundred million bucks. They have not gotten a return on 432 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the investment for themselves, teammates and fans. My biggest disappointment, 433 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: and it pains me to say it, is Aj Green, 434 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: largely because I thought he was going to be the 435 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: old AJ Green and just take off and looked like 436 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: he looked pre all of his injuries, and obviously that 437 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been the case. Now the good news is it's 438 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: not too late. He had the great two game stretch 439 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: against Indian Cleveland where he had fifteen catches for nearly 440 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: two hundred yards. But in the Baltimore game, we saw 441 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: something we thought we would never see him. Loaf on 442 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: that interception, sulk on the bench. That's not the aj 443 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: Green we know and love. So again, it's not too late, 444 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: but to this point, clearly it's been a disappointment. Sure, 445 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: no doubt he'd be the first one to agree with 446 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: you on that Dam's and he basically chastised himself after 447 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: the Baltimore game, saying, that's not me. I can't do that. 448 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I think he realized the error in his ways last 449 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: category and the Shammy's the play of the first half 450 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: of the season. What do you have the play of 451 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: the first half of the season. My gosh, I mean, 452 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of Joe Burrow plays, you know, 453 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Um is it? Is it? The fran tarkeet didn't like Houdini, 454 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: make you miss a bunch of scrambles, you know, uh, 455 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, making guys miss and uh serpentining around like 456 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: fran tarkeeting and throwing the football. You know, I think 457 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: that that might be one, but so many times Dan 458 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: so many times. I think of the Sethon Carter throw. 459 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that couldn't have been in any better spot. 460 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: The Tyler Boyd throw that couldn't have been in any 461 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: better spot for him to and on the other end, 462 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: for him to not even see the football and then react. 463 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: The ie hand coordination of Tyler Boyd and the and 464 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: the reflexes of Tyler Boyd just unbelievable. And Joe Burrow 465 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: trusted him to do that. I just think so many plays, 466 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: so many throws of his he has put in spots 467 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: where it's like, are you kidding me? Are you serious? 468 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Sideline throws to t Higgins. I just think that Joe 469 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Burrow has had many moments of wow, I mean pin 470 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: point spots. I would add the third down pass to 471 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: Autumn Tate that we heard earlier in the show, the 472 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: Coffin Nails play from last week. But if I had 473 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: to play pick a play from the first half, I 474 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: would pick one of the ones you were talking about. 475 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: That Tyler Boyd catch last week, fourth quarter, Bengals up ten, 476 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: nine minutes to go third down to nine. Burrows somehow 477 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: maneuvers in the pocket and throws to Boyd when he's 478 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: basically tied up by a defender and not looking, he 479 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: turns and the ball is there on top of his 480 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: left shoulder. Great throw, incredible anticipatient, unbelievable catch, one of 481 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: the most remarkable quarterback to wide receiver combos I've ever seen. 482 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: And for Joe to pull the trigger on it, the 483 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: faith and trust and Tyler Boyd because he was there 484 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: should have been a flag. I mean, Tyler board after 485 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: the catch, he went right to the official and it's like, 486 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? You'd call nothing on that? And 487 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: then the safety was, you know, coming closing from the backside. 488 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: If Tyler Boyd does not react to that football, Joe 489 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Burrow is risking a red zone interception. That's trust, that's confidence, 490 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I mean, I just can't wait to 491 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: see the wide receiver corps, including aj Green as a 492 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: whole the Arrow go up in their efforts with Joe 493 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Burrow in the second half of the season. Jimmy is 494 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the theme music from The Shrammy still available to wrap 495 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: up this segment. I love it that concludes the Shrammy's Yeah, 496 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: We're going to take an in depth look at the 497 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: first half of Joe Burrow's first season with two former 498 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks up. First from the NFL Today on CBS 499 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: and Inside the NFL on Showtime, it's former Super Bowl 500 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: MVP Phil Simms. Well, Phil, you know where we want 501 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: to start, and that is with Joe Burrow. What do 502 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: you think through eight games? Wow? What do I think? 503 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: I can honestly say I've watched every Joe Burrow throw 504 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: this year, so I don't have to lie. And I 505 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: like to be of course coming out, you know, for 506 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: many reasons. One just his movement, his size, played in 507 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: a pro offense, just abused to so many great things. 508 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: But all those things I talk about, and I just 509 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: said this to my son today. He's better at all 510 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: those things now than he was at LSU. And it 511 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: just each week I see something, I go, oh my god, 512 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: the anticipation, you know, he's he's starting, a guy going 513 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: over the middle, coming over the middle of the field, 514 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: and where's he? Oh, there he comes, and he it's 515 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: just of course he learned that, you know, being a 516 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: point guarding basketball playing like he did an LSU with 517 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: Joe Brady, and he just he puts it all together 518 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: and it's been a it's been a surprise with that. 519 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: But I gotta honestly say, his physical ability. I think 520 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: his arm, it looks even better in the NFL than 521 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: I expected it. And you know, the great word for 522 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: him in the pocket and all that. He is just slippery, 523 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: A big guy that just has it. Man, he can. 524 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: He feels the pocket great. I need to tell him 525 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: to compare and teachs Daniel Jones. That would help the 526 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Giants out a lot. But it's really it's just it's 527 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: been tremendous. There's nothing else to say. You know, you 528 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: are a great that Super Bowl where your MVP, to 529 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: have your best game in the biggest game of your life. 530 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine what that must have felt like. 531 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: But Mike Pope, who coached with the Giants when you 532 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: were there, coach with the Bengals and I talked. I 533 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: talked to Mike Pope about you as a quarterback, and 534 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: I said, if you had to give me the biggest 535 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the best quality that Phil Simms had at the quarterback position, 536 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: what would you say? He goes, let me tell you 537 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: something happen. Tough, This dude tough might have been the 538 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: toughest guy in the football team. Joe Burrow has that 539 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: people don't realize Joe Burrow gets knocked around like a pinata. 540 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh and just you know, give me more. And that coach, 541 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: Mike Pope said, Phil Simms may have been as tough 542 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a man as I've ever met. What do you think 543 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: about that man? Well, listen, that's nice compliments on my 544 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: great friends. Unbelievable coach through his career all that. If 545 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I didn't play that way, Parcels would have benched me anyway. 546 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: So and they he just my coach in the NFL 547 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: was the same as it was in high school and college. 548 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean I had the same guy all three. In fact, 549 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels was probably the nicest one of the group. 550 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: But you know, Joe Burrow, if you go back and 551 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: look at his LSU games, which I watched them very closely, 552 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: he took beatings down there too. You know, he playing 553 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Auburn Alabama. I mean the pocket was tight, they collapsed 554 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: it a lot as right as LSU was. You know, 555 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: in the SEC you play quarterback. Maybe Alabama is the 556 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: only exception I can think of. You're gonna get hit 557 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: by NFL lineman and uh yeah, hit his look his 558 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: calm demeanor and all that stuff. That is a great 559 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: point to how tough he is that when they played 560 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: in Baltimore this year, now, that was across that went 561 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: over the line. For me, I was like really mad 562 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: when the game was over, and Boomer goes, why are 563 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: you so mad? I go, well, it's too much hitting 564 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the game when the game is over, 565 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: and I was just really, you know, and Boom goes, 566 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: I know, Boomer, he's your man crush on one of them. 567 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: But when the game was over, I was starting to 568 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: worry about Joe Burrow taking too many hits because all 569 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna do is being unlucky one time. But but 570 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: he's he's weathered the storm. The amount of dropbacks, the 571 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: amount of throws is just gonna it's just speeding his 572 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: career up. And you know how many times can you 573 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback as the defensive lineman, guys. I mean 574 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: that's the other thing and the right the one thing 575 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: wide receiving group. Oh my gosh, it's it's tremendous. But 576 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: they're good. They're getting even better because of all the 577 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: repetitions in the game that they have, which is what's 578 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: has been fun to see. And the C. T. Higgins 579 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: you just come along here lately, is just adding to 580 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: the group. Talking to Phil Sims from CBS. What is 581 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: Boomer like when you guys are hanging out on the 582 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: set watching games between your segments and he's watching Burrow? Well, listen, 583 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: he played enough down there in Cincinnati, So you know, 584 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: he's arrogant, thinks he's the best looking person in the world. 585 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: What else can I say about Boomer. I'm a little 586 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: disappointed he actually lost wait and trimmed up this year. 587 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: That was disappointing. But you know, no, he's great and 588 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: he focuses. Of course, he does a radio show up here, 589 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: so he's always on the Giants and Jets, yelling and 590 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, screaming about that. And of course is right there, 591 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: right there with it. She told about Joe Burrows. Did 592 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: you see hi feel? Yeah, Boomer, I got I'm watching it. Yeah, 593 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I got it. You know. But whatever, So he's he's 594 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: really into it. He loves the fact that the Bengals 595 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: are back on the map. You know, I do too, 596 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: isn't It's something The Browns and the Bengals are extremely relevant. Again, 597 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: and I don't know, you wouldn't think this, but it 598 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: just seems to be a great thing. For the league. 599 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with you. Um quarterback play problem solving? 600 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: How big of a factor in Joe Burrow? In my 601 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: mind is a great problem solving. I mean, when he 602 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: looks over the field, he sees where are the problems 603 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: may exist and avoid you know, he solves problems. How 604 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: big of a factor is that for a young quarterback? 605 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, Dave it's it's and Dan it's it's. It's 606 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: almost really unfathomable too. I don't say words that I 607 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: can't pronounce. It's all to believe that what he does, 608 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: in other words, it's above where I was probably ever 609 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: in my career and my first couple of years. I mean, 610 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: come on, it was just dropped back, And why'd you 611 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: throw that ball there? Well? I thought I could get 612 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: it in there. Well, okay, all right, you know, I 613 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: mean he got intercepted. But it's just his whole thing 614 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: about having that great feel seeing the defense and really 615 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: understanding the defense. Of course, now and late my career, 616 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 1: you couldn't fool me when you lined up on defense 617 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: and when the slot guy's gonna blitz year nine yards 618 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: back and said at ten, you idiot, you think I 619 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: can see that? No, I'm really being serious. Safety could 620 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: line up twelve yards I go. You know, he's usually 621 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: at fourteen. So this is telling me, you know, you 622 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: knew right away, and he already has that factor in him. 623 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: I know he can. I can tell he looks over 624 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: the defense quick. He's already got his you know, not 625 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: his mind meet up, but he has a feel for 626 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: where he's gonna go. And then he can find the 627 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: next receiver so fast, which he did in college. And 628 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: then when he's going to get hit and he knows 629 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: there's trouble in the pocket, he immediately before he falls apart, 630 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: can find the outlet guy and just get rid of 631 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: the football, which is again the repetitions he had at 632 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: LSU that last year. But it's natural to him. Two. 633 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you just think what he'd be like 634 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: if he had three years of LSU's offense in him 635 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: when he came to the NFL, he'd be well. I 636 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: don't know if he could be any better, but it 637 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: might have been easier for him. Who knows you were 638 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: good as a rookie, Phil, I mean a lot of 639 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks their rookie year stats are brutal. Peyton Manning still 640 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: holds the record for rookie interceptions. John Elway completed forty 641 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: seven percent of his passes as a rookie. You giants 642 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: for six and five in the games you started as 643 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: a rookie. But are you amazed that so many guys 644 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: now succeed right away? I mean, Justin Herbert's got a 645 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: passer rating one or four point five. Burrow has been great. 646 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: You know Kyler Murray terrific last year. Does that stun you, Well, yeah, 647 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm a little stun but I understand the dynamics of it. 648 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, what do I do during the off 649 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: season with my younger son, Matt. We train quarterbacks and 650 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: we have a lot of them. And I have high 651 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: school kids that if you watch them work out, then 652 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: if I didn't tell, you, go what major is he 653 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: going to? Ohio State? Or you just can't believe because 654 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: they're brought up differently. I mean, we have guys that 655 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: run left and throw to the right sideline. We have 656 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: them going you know, we had a kids. You'll see 657 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: the video on showtime. I don't know whatever, but we 658 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: teach a lot of stuff, especially like moving, throwing, awkward 659 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: stuff and all that the kids can run and jump 660 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not exaggerating. We have some kids that can 661 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: throw it jumping straight up in the air, throw it 662 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: over sixty yards, yez. But it's a teaching lesson on 663 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: how to use your body to throw and all that. 664 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: It's why we do it. My son showed it to 665 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: me one day. I said, wow, Ma, I don't know 666 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: about this. You know, these kids and they started doing it, 667 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I was like this, I 668 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: gotta film it. And of course I film everything, but 669 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: these but these young kids are getting such great teaching 670 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: and maybe not up here in the Northeast, and I 671 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: don't know how it is down there in the area 672 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: you guys live in, but Texas, California. They throw the 673 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: ball so much in high school and then they continue 674 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: to throw a lot in the college. So they're coming 675 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: into the NFL. I mean many they got it. They 676 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: feel it and know and the teachings better for the 677 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: mechanics a little bit, but just the teaching of the 678 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: offense and the rule changes too, of course, are a 679 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: huge advantage now these quarterbacks, I mean, it really is 680 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: just running the ball out, easy throws, easy reads. You know, 681 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: about thirty percent of the time, I think it's really 682 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: easy for the quarterback, but it's those other moments when 683 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: it gets rough and you've got to be very instinctive 684 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 1: and have talent is what really separates you from the rest. 685 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: But these these Joe Burrow, We're gonna have a route 686 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: that comes out every year that are really quality, ready 687 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: to start franchise quarterbacks. It's just a question where they 688 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: get in the right spot. But they get in the 689 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: right system and have an organization that's good enough to 690 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: let you show everything that you have. And that is 691 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: the challenge of course now for the Bengals and the 692 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: Chargers that can they get the organization and the team 693 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: in a position for these guys to really show their 694 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: talent and win games under pressure and all that. Our 695 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: second in depth look at Joe Burrow comes from former 696 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback JT. O'Sullivan, who has a channel on YouTube 697 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: called the QB School where he breaks down video of 698 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: quarterback play. It's outstanding and this week, for the second 699 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: time this season, he put Joe Burrow under his microscope. 700 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: Go to YouTube and type in super Burrow and it 701 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: will pop right up about twenty five minutes of great insight. 702 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: Earlier this year, after the Bengals played the Eagles. Back 703 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: in Week three, at posted a video titled Joe Burrow 704 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: Becoming NFL Joe Burrow, and that week he spoke to 705 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Lap and me, when you watch him, what jumps out 706 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: on tape. Initially, if you go back and watch the 707 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: college stuff, specifically last year, I think what jumps out 708 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: on tape has probably the best season that any quarterback 709 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: has ever played at the college level. And you know, 710 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: you go back and kind of peel apart and analyze 711 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: why that is. I think that there are things that 712 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: you're already seeing in Cincinnati as far as his pocket savvy, 713 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: his ability to be technical and smooth within the pocket, 714 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 1: two hands on the ball, shufflin, staying alive, those types 715 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: of things. He's a better athlete, and you probably think 716 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: initially watching him, and then he's just so ridiculously accurate 717 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: last year in their in their scheme, and now they 718 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: had some dudes out there as well, but he was 719 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: the one orchestrating it. And you know, those are the 720 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: things that jump off for me, the accuracy, the pocket presence, 721 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: all those things. And so even now you just look 722 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: to see if how that translates into the league it's 723 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: obviously going to translate really well, but it's you know, 724 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: it's not quite the same as being around a loaded 725 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: LSU at the Division one level, and so it's about 726 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: bridging based capacity to play the position at a really 727 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: high level with what Sundays called for you to do 728 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: with that position, you know, the thing that was impressive 729 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: to me in college watching him now it's translated so 730 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: far as like you'd say, with the pocket presence and 731 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: his ability athletically. He's got some quick twitch to him 732 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: and he was an all state point guard in high 733 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: school and he was really he had basketball opportunities to 734 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: play at the next level. So he's got some athletic ability, 735 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: and he's making these guys in the sec you know, 736 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: quick feet making a miss slide step and stepping up 737 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: in the pocket and stepping up to vacate instead of 738 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: just vacating, stepping up and then vacating, and you know 739 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: he did that in the game. It's always everything in 740 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: athletics starts with your feet and ends with your hands, right, 741 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: everything with Joe Burrow starts with his feet and ends 742 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: with his hands. He's got unbelievable feet in terms of 743 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, mechanics extending and creating all that kind of 744 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: stuff across athletics. It's always from the ground up. I 745 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: think for a long time, you know, most people in 746 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: the the quarterback sphere would say playing quarterback is absolutely 747 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: from the ground up. I think it's evolved a little 748 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: bit more to be center out now kind of torso driven, 749 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: core driven, But you're absolutely right. The thing that jumps 750 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: out on the film for him is his ability to 751 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: be smooth, always ready to throw, technically efficient from within 752 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 1: the pocket, and just so consistent. I mean, that's the 753 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: thing about it, you know. I just I can't ever 754 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: remember somebody coming at that level, the college level the 755 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: season he had last year and looking like such a 756 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: polished pro guy within the pocket, and those things aren't 757 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: going to go away, And so now it's just about 758 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: being able to do it in a longer season against 759 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: better competition, when everything's probably a little bit more equal 760 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: out there. We're talking to former Bengals quarterback j T. O'Sullivan. 761 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: I highly recommend subscribing to the QB School, his YouTube 762 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: channel looking at quarterback play in the NFL and also 763 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: college football leading up to the draft. Joe Burrow has 764 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: been sacked fourteen times in three games he's been hit 765 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: about thirty When you watched that game against Philadelphia, how 766 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: how bad was that protection in comparison to what other 767 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are facing these days. It's not great. It's not sustainable. 768 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: I think it's probably the more important element, you know, 769 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to looking at the first few weeks. Now 770 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: Also you know even you know whether whatever sector you're 771 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: analyzing the Bengals performance and Joe Burrows specifically up to 772 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: this point, it's hard not to jump to conclusions, even 773 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: if it's just a three game sample size, but getting 774 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: hit like that, it's probably not sustainable over the course 775 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: of a season, let alone a career. And so it's 776 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: about building in combination, taking advantage of what Joe does 777 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: really well, with what they're doing scheme wise, with how 778 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 1: what their personnela is upfront and so some of the 779 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: elements are you know, about knowing how to get the 780 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: ball out of your hands quicker. Some of its concept driven, 781 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: meaning we need to design place and have the offense 782 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: structure to get the ball out quicker. And then it's 783 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: about your guys winning on the perimeter as well, and 784 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: so and then he'll get faster playing as he gets 785 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: more reps like anybody with experience, and so all of 786 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: those factors combining into an aggregate to allow him to 787 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: play at a high level for a really long time, 788 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think anybody you know is looking for 789 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: a short career from a franchise type of guy like that. 790 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: How does the quarterback determine the balancing act of Okay, 791 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm athletic. I can extend and create like you. You 792 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: did a good job on it the naked bootleg and 793 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: he came back on his own. When you come back 794 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: on your own, you're on your own, you know. And 795 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: he took a shot from the league Jackson. So how 796 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: do you balance? All right? I want to try to 797 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: make a play, but I don't want to put myself 798 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: in the danger it looks like I might be putting 799 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: myself into How does that if you're skilled enough, that 800 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: athletic enough to do it like he is, how do 801 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: you make those decisions? Where's that balancing? Where's the tipping point? Well, 802 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: you know the tipping point right there is You're gonna 803 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: get smacked right that, and you're gonna learn pretty hard 804 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: pretty quick. I think it's a combination of his sports staff, 805 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: meaning the coaches, the other quarterbacks, his ability to learn 806 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: from watching other people. You know, you watch. I think 807 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: the thing about it is the position is getting so 808 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: much more athletic across the league. You know, the best 809 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: players now or the best athletes are playing quarterback younger, 810 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: and so the the position across the board, across all 811 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: sectors of football is getting more athletic. And so you 812 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: see guys like Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson, Aaron 813 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: who a certain extent for a long time, getting outside 814 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: the pocket, making ridiculous off platform throws, athletic throws, staying alive, 815 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: and you think you can do that, and he can 816 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: do that, but the guys who are chasing you are 817 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: just better, faster, bigger, stronger than you're used to and 818 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: so you have to learn that, Hey, if I'm gonna 819 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: come back, you know that's not on my offensive line. 820 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: If I'm going to reverse fields, so that's not me. 821 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you can never do it. You can 822 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: do it, but you just have to know, like, hey, 823 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: maybe I tip don't take quite as sharp as angle downhill. 824 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: Maybe I know you see Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, guys 825 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: kind of when they go to turn, they'll peek the 826 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: other way out the side of their helmet. Now I 827 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: can tell you that's not easy to do. And just 828 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: because you can peek doesn't mean you can make the turn. 829 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: You know, I for a long time I would peak, 830 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: but you know, I get smacked because I can't move 831 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: as fast as the defensive end. And so it's one 832 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: thing to be to know it. It's another be able 833 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: to do it, and then it's another to be able 834 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: to do it consistently on Sundays. A couple more questions 835 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: for JT o' sullivan. You were a Bengal in two 836 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: thousand and nine. You spent time with a lot of 837 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: NFL teams, whether it was on the roster or in 838 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: practice squad or in training camp. Also played in NFL 839 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: Europe and the CFL. What stood out JT about that 840 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine season where you backed up Carson Palmer? 841 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 1: That was probably one of the more fun teams that 842 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: I was around. And what I mean, I don't mean 843 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: winning and going to the playoffs that obviously helps, but 844 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: just the group of dudes on that team is the 845 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: nicest way I can say. You know, I felt like 846 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys that were all kind 847 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: of around in the same area of their career, all 848 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: cared about ball, all, you know, came together to really 849 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: make a dent in that division that year and it 850 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: was great. You know. It started and stopped with Carson 851 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: at the time, and he played at a really high level, 852 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: played hurt. I was able to do things with that 853 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: offense that I think took advantage of what we had 854 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: on the perimeter and what we had up front. And 855 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: it was a blast night. I really enjoyed my time 856 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: in the real sense, city sense city I like it. 857 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: Final question, appreciate you taking the time you have whether 858 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: us this has been outstanding. A young guy like Joe 859 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: Burrow comes in the league and manipulating defenses with his eyes. 860 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean usually that's not something rookie quarterback does. Jesse Bates, 861 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: who was very intelligent safety on the Bengals defense, said 862 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: during training camp, Man Borrow, he's really good with his eyes. Man. 863 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: You know, I've learned, I've learned the kid. The kid 864 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: he will he will play with you with those eyes. 865 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: Is that unusual? I mean, to be that skilled even 866 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: at that with with your eyes at that coming out 867 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: of college, I probably think it is. I really do 868 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: think that the position across the board is getting better. 869 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: Do you see so many younger guys, you know, at 870 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: the seven and seven circuits, and they're just getting more 871 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: reps at more things that you're used to doing on 872 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Sundays and Sundays have changed too. It's a little bit 873 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: more spread out concepts. You know, information, whether it's a 874 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: YouTube channel or better coaching across the board. Uh, you know, 875 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: your you have better access to better information. And I 876 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: remember going to the NFL and there were concepts that 877 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: I had never played before, where now Joe Burrow is 878 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: probably familiar with a lot of things that he's being 879 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: asked to do it now. It doesn't mean that you 880 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: can then go out there and do it in an 881 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: NFL practice or game like he does. But I think, 882 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I think collectively the position is getting better. But I 883 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: still think it's impressive that he's able to do that, 884 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: even though you know, I think, you know, manipulating people 885 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: with your eyes usually happens in zooe coverage. You have 886 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: to be really comfortable with the concepts. You have to 887 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: know why you're manipulating someone, and you also have to 888 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: have the rhythm and the timing to still deliver the 889 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: ball on time. So it's one thing to look someone off, 890 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 1: it's another thing to come back and be on time 891 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: where you're trying to go, and so it's not it's 892 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: never just the one off thing. For me. With Joe Burrow, 893 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: the thing that's so impressive is just the package in 894 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: the combination of things that he's able to do within 895 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 1: the pocket. I just never really seen from someone that 896 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: young to be that consistently elite at it. Thanks to 897 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: Phil Sims and j. T. O'Sullivan And here's a quick 898 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: reminder to join lapping me for the Bengals pep Rally 899 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: show Friday from three to six on ESPN fifteen thirty. 900 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: That's going to do it. For this episode of the 901 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, brought to you by Bud Light Seltzer, 902 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: refresh the game. 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