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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: hot pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right, we have I would say a legend on

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Speaker 3: Is that a legend and a guru and a doctor.

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Speaker 2: Frank Stephen Wallaser is going to join us. He is

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Speaker 2: the CEO of Bentley, the new CEO of Bentley, and

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Speaker 2: was at Porsche for two decades. I think longer.

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Speaker 3: Actually, right now, I think longer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we all know him because he was

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Speaker 3: He really is.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the genius behind it. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 2: Also, my favorite Porsche supercar that I've never driven, but

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Speaker 2: I've never driven any of them, right, so I would say,

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Speaker 2: like the nine to fifty nine, the Carrera GT, and

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Speaker 3: It's so cool. It's so cool, you know.

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Speaker 1: But also we should say now he's at Bentley, and

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Speaker 1: I think we can really expect that some of this

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Speaker 2: Yes, the question is when are we going to see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: And you know we have frank on because Bentley announced

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Speaker 1: goals for another five years and we'll be making hybrid

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Speaker 1: combustion engines at least until twenty thirty five, which I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, delaying that so yeah, interesting times.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone wants them to kill their internal

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Speaker 3: Right yet, not yet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there are a few people out there, but probably

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Speaker 2: most of those who will be buying Bentley's would prefer

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Speaker 2: So, Oh, I got to tell you something that's amazing

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Speaker 2: I showed them the song remains the same and they

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Speaker 2: loved it. And at one point Robert Plant introduces Jimmy Page.

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Speaker 2: He says, ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Page on the electric guitar,

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Speaker 2: and Edna says, Daddy, his guitar doesn't need gas. That's amazing,

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Speaker 1: That's an amazing connection in her head. Yeah, she's been

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Her favorite thing. When I say it's an electric car,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, maybe that's as far as you need

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Speaker 1: A revolution and a revelation.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there were a lot of people who thought,

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Speaker 3: Those people were called parents.

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Speaker 2: It's Honda civics and late model BMWM cars.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's so and they're going fifteen miles an hour,

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to talk to Frank Wallacer

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to start start with yourself, Like,

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Speaker 3: White glove chauffeur.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Bentley is more about driving it yourself.

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Speaker 1: real luxury is being driven by another human. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'll have to ask him. He does

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really interesting stuff, and your story on

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Speaker 2: that is going to come out later later.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking it as a very good thing. It was

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Speaker 3: We include more words. So I like the sound of that,

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Speaker 3: So stay tuned, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I look forward to that. And now I want

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Speaker 2: Me, he really think, I guess I've got that's so expensive.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna go ahead and look at Bentley dot com.

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Speaker 3: It'll be in my review.

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Speaker 2: Right, Prices are just much higher than we thought they were, right.

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Speaker 1: It's so wild to me that this car costs that much.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that is a strange I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't have that experience. And in any case,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and so to me, it like a

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Speaker 2: you have to pay attention to that, Hannah, if you

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Speaker 2: I've never seen it in any car before, so it's

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Speaker 1: I think I was too distracted by the fact that

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Speaker 1: you notice this? No, this single very poorly and this

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Speaker 1: Cup holders for the coffee and the center console are two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You get a very small cough, you get a normal

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Speaker 2: That is probably a problem well a lot of cars

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about the sound. Did you notice

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Speaker 2: No, But I, like I said, I had it in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's where I'm like, Oh, but it's it's

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Speaker 2: That didn't feel heavy to me either. I mean it

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Speaker 3: It, because I had a couple of days of it.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I knew you would.

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Speaker 1: I literally said in the car, Matt Miller is going

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Speaker 2: And I couldn't. I couldn't not compare it to the

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Speaker 2: they're both extremely luxurious. The Bentley felt tighter. I had

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Speaker 2: In the Bentley it's four hundred thousand dollars for two doors,

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Speaker 2: I just to me, the value proposition falls easily in

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you this, which car do you

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. What's the Mercedes exterior design?

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Speaker 3: How is this?

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Speaker 1: I'm completely that is highly ironic and funny that it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was that. I mean, I am. I

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Speaker 2: imagine you could turn that off and I will own

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Speaker 2: the car. All right. Well, next week I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about it more because I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: It's a great car. It's just at least it makes

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Speaker 1: I feel a little conflicted. At least it makes me

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Speaker 2: For sure, And I can't wait. Are you going to

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll do something on it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, let's get to Frank Stephen. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: guy had an incredibly storied career with Portia. I'm not

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Speaker 2: his own baby right now, he's moved over to be

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Speaker 2: the boss of Bentley. And you talked to him in Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and ander Mott that was the first time I

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Speaker 1: German CEO follow Adrian Hallmark who was Bitley's British, very

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Speaker 1: now it's like we've got a whole new regime. And

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Speaker 1: it does make me excited about the future of Bentley

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Speaker 1: because I because Frank is very open, like, yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: I like that, Yeah, I like it too. Let's listen

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Speaker 2: to actor Frank Stephen Ballasser.

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Speaker 1: Frank, you're actually not that new to Bentley anymore. You've

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Speaker 1: been there since July. Where are you along your big

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Speaker 5: Well, there's something about the famous hundred days for a CEO.

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Speaker 5: You have to set up the scenes, and I got

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Speaker 5: some interesting books on that.

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Speaker 4: I got even a book with ninety days. But this

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Speaker 5: You need and we work with the team here on

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Speaker 5: Ass or Beyond one hundred strategy was close to five years,

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Speaker 5: so every five years you rework your strategy anyway, so

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Speaker 5: that fit nicely together. We just announced last week or

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Speaker 5: Beyond one hundred plus strategy that already signs out. It's

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 4: I think over the.

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Speaker 5: Last five years, everybody in the automotive industry is a

444
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Speaker 5: better understanding of the biggest transition in the history of

445
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 5: the car to switch to the electric drivetrain. Also in

446
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: the market feedbacks speed of the different markets, A lot

447
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 5: about technology. Not so easy for an industry that was

448
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 5: used to have a proper life cycle. You launch a product,

449
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 5: you have it seven years in, you do different model years,

450
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: you have a proper legislation. It changes tremendously, changes very quick,

451
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 5: changes different in different angles of the world.

452
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Speaker 4: But nothing to complain and nothing we can really influence.

453
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Speaker 5: We just have to be in our technology and our

454
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 5: product offer flexible enough and this is what we mainly

455
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Speaker 5: work through with the team.

456
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Speaker 1: Frank I have to say I received no shortage of

457
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: messages in my social media inbox of people who are

458
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Speaker 1: very happy to hear that Bentley will continue to make

459
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: combustion engines and of course we're all very excited to

460
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: see what the new electric model is. Can you tell

461
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: us what the feedback has been like. What do you

462
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: hear on your side of things.

463
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: We're reading the media feedback, we get some personal messages.

464
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 5: We have a very strong feedback from our investors and dealers.

465
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 5: They they are happy with the strategy. They see the

466
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 5: more balanced product portfolio and an additional car, the additional card.

467
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 5: It can hopefully grow their business. It's not a substitution,

468
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 5: it's growing the business. The more balanced portfolio gives them

469
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Speaker 5: the opportunity to keep a lot of the existing customers

470
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Speaker 5: staying Bentley customers all in the future, and was pretty

471
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 5: well received. If I say pretty well, this is Brittish understatement.

472
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Speaker 2: The W twelve has been a big focus of Bentley

473
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Speaker 2: for as long as I can remember. What's the future

474
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Speaker 2: like for that engine? I mean, is it short lived

475
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: or can we expect it to stay around in some form,

476
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Speaker 2: you know, for at least another five years or a decade.

477
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 5: I have to say we already stopped the production also

478
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Speaker 5: in summer.

479
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: It was around July end of June we stopped the

480
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Speaker 4: production of the W twelve.

481
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 5: It is replaced by the fabulous V eight quag In

482
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 5: hybrid like the Continental GT, and I could drive it.

483
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 5: It's a It's interesting because well, there's so much history

484
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: about this W twelve and it was the defining engine

485
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: of Bentley. But Bentley is more than only only the engine.

486
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Speaker 5: This makes it also really exciting in deciding now the

487
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 5: future of the carrs but also of the company.

488
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: There's more about Bentley than only the engine.

489
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 5: And driving this we eight, especially in the PF configuration,

490
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 5: it just shows you how good it.

491
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Speaker 4: Can be without being a W twelve.

492
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Speaker 5: For sure, there's an emotional part, but from a pure

493
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 5: driving perspective, from the emotions you get, from the feedback

494
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 5: you get, and how good the car is.

495
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 4: Good technology can replace something like that.

496
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Speaker 2: I would say, there's no replacement for displacement. Do you

497
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: have a different take. I mean you come from a

498
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: place where a three liter flat six is more than enough.

499
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: So am I wrong?

500
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Speaker 4: I went through this and.

501
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 5: This is the magic of electrification, and this is more

502
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Speaker 5: than displacement.

503
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: It can do things better.

504
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 5: This is new technology and it is really driving some

505
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: magic into it. And without referring too much to the past,

506
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: but I had the fun.

507
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: In making a Superspot's got a hypercar.

508
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: Everybody believed five point five V ten is the best

509
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 5: what you can get with a manual, and then we

510
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 5: put a D eight in with a hybrid.

511
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 4: A little bit more heavier, and everybody.

512
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: Was super happy. But only after sitting in the car.

513
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 5: It does not work to judge it from an office.

514
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: Sorry to say, you have to drive it.

515
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: You have to feel the sensation and then it really

516
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 5: it really changes.

517
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Speaker 3: You know. That's a really interesting point.

518
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Speaker 1: I'm curious if you think that we're at a similar

519
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: spot right now, just in terms of educating consumers that hey,

520
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: just because we're going we're losing some cylinders, doesn't necessarily

521
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: mean you're going to feel any less excited when you

522
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: drive things because this is a new technology.

523
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: Is that sort of similar to what you went through

524
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: in your previous life when you introduce some of.

525
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: These harbards, I would say yes.

526
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Speaker 5: The majority of the customers is not engineers. They're not

527
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 5: not their education to judge something from paper.

528
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: Or from information.

529
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 5: They get their customers, and we have to respect this.

530
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 5: They need their own experience, they need good media that

531
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Speaker 5: is explaining it. What is kind of confirm is doing so,

532
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: but there's nothing like own experience and coming back a

533
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 5: little bit from an engineering perspective, nothing else and displacement.

534
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 5: It was right, but with the introduction of all the

535
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 5: new exhaust gas limitations and Knox reduction and all what

536
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: we have, the character of these engines is changing. It's

537
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: it's not the old math and not the old physics

538
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 5: and the old engineering that is behind it. That just

539
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: war makes it better. You must make it different to

540
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 5: fulfill the regulations and to bring the magic back of

541
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Speaker 5: such an engine and well, and the customer has to

542
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: be educated is maybe a little bit too strong in

543
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: the wording, but give the chance to have to make

544
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 5: an own opinion and to have an own experience in

545
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: that And all the feedback I got from the customers,

546
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 5: they're more than happy with what they can feel and

547
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: how balanced the car is. While the experts were driving

548
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: the car, what is the automotive and on automotive media,

549
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 5: and they had been really blown away by the performance

550
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 5: and the easiness of driving it. And this character of

551
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 5: such an electrified powertrain fits perfectly to a Bentley because

552
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: we're always talking the wave of torque, and that was

553
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: coming from big displacement back in the days, a six

554
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: to three quarter that was a nice size of an engine,

555
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: and everything was about tor but we are over exceeding

556
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 5: these talk numbers. Today the spontaneous reaction of the engine

557
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: is way better and the same will come on the

558
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: electric drive train. More talk, more response, nice and quite driving.

559
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: But if you want and if you put the accelerated

560
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Speaker 5: down to the floor, it will happen.

561
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Speaker 1: Something I think I should say for the listeners in

562
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: case anyone is not aware. Doctor Wallace are actually holds

563
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: a doctoral degree in mechanical engineering and is sort of

564
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: considered the grandfather of the nine to eighteen Spider hypercar.

565
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: In case anyone didn't mention that, or didn't know that,

566
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: or we didn't mention it.

567
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: Sure the Bloomberg terminal has you down as the project manager,

568
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: so I would say you were the boss on that.

569
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: And you've been doing this for I mean, gosh, twenty ten,

570
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Since before twenty ten, working on this type of technology.

571
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I started in nineteen ninety five, so it's nearly

572
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: thirty years now of experience in the automotive sector, different projects,

573
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: but on these electrification part.

574
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: I started working on.

575
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 5: I think it was pretty much around in November, maybe

576
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: even the day matches in two thousand and nine where

577
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 5: the first ideas on electrification electrification of big cars started.

578
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: Gained a lot of experience in that some of the

579
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: technologies still around.

580
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: So I mean basically you were at Porsche since the

581
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: turn of the century, right running the motorsport division, I

582
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 2: think in starting in two thousand and three, and then

583
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: the ninet eighteen and now you're at Bentley, and I

584
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: think it must be incredibly exciting for you to have

585
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: now this whole brand that you can shape and mold,

586
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: you know, Obviously it's storied and has a long history,

587
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: so you're working with everyone who's already been there. But

588
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: you have this leadership position now at such an incredible mark.

589
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: What are you most excited about at Bentley?

590
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 4: It's exactly what you described.

591
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: It's not only an engineering job, it's not only a product.

592
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: It's a complete company.

593
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: It includes communications, it includes the customer interaction. It includes

594
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: our sales channels, our dealerships, all the partners we have

595
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 5: outside there, but also.

596
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: The production stuff. How to develop our.

597
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: Culture here within Bentley what is really an important part

598
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: of it.

599
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: How to.

600
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 5: Continue to being a high performance theme bringing great products

601
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: and we all know the surrounding is not easier.

602
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: We have to make decisions. We have, yeah, as I said,

603
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: the biggest transformation in the history of.

604
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: The car, and well that's part of the fund and

605
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: daily work. But this is also very motivating. And sure

606
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 5: you're responsible for the half thousand people here on site,

607
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 5: the crew, but also on the international dealer network and

608
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: all the partners outside, and for sure on the customers.

609
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: That are really fans. I don't think we have really customers.

610
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 5: We have fans of our brand and of our cars

611
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 5: and the history and everything behind that.

612
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: That's great, it's really exciting.

613
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: What was your perception of the brand? I mean, if

614
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, you are from Stuttgart, so you have

615
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: been immersed in you know, Porsche, Mercedes. You're not far

616
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: from a falter Bach, you know. I imagine you were

617
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: a huge German car fan, and then you must have

618
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: taken note with extreme interest when Volkswagen acquired Bentley, as

619
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: well as all the other brands they acquired. So what

620
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: was your perception of it growing up?

621
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 4: Growing up?

622
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: I think it was it was the interesting time when

623
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 5: these when these big changes happened, where there was this

624
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: big consolidation of the of of some of the smaller

625
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: brands and the acquisition strategy of Volkswagen that but honestly,

626
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: maybe based on information and based on age and experience

627
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 5: from outside, it looked a little bit what exactly is

628
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 5: the idea and how will that work?

629
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: And who did do the better deal?

630
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: Back in the days, because one company took over the

631
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 5: name and the other one took over all the assets.

632
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 4: And the Bentley name that was not so known outside.

633
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: Of the customers. It was a very small customer group.

634
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: But obviously this master plan behind it. Now we can

635
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: look back well twenties, more than twenty five years ago

636
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: when the decisions were made, and seeing the outcome, how

637
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 5: this idea really started to have a balance steps business.

638
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 5: To have a modelized there, to have grown the fans

639
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: by multiplus of thousands in comparison.

640
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 4: To number of cars that have been produced before. This

641
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: is really great.

642
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to hear you call Bentley owners fans.

643
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: It's really nice to hear because I think that term

644
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: I would naturally think, okay, that applies to Porsche people.

645
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: But you know, with Bentley, you're kind of in a

646
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: different space, and I'm wondering if you could talk about

647
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: how you see Bentley positioned as a brand in contrast

648
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: to Rolls Royce for instance, or in contrast even to

649
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: my bock. I know when we've spoken Ander Mott, you

650
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: mentioned that Bentley might it might improve by sharpening its

651
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: image a little bit. So can you talk a little

652
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: bit about what that means in your mind moving forward?

653
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: Well, my learning is over the last weeks or months

654
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 5: and discussions with the with the team here engineering and

655
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 5: also with the comms team and marketing, and honestly also

656
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: the chance to drive a lot of these heritage cars

657
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 5: to really learn what makes it Bentley so special and

658
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: also reflecting.

659
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 4: On the history.

660
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 5: When the thing that that's also a car that that

661
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: really impressed me by by driving it was the turbo r.

662
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: Oh Boy. But we talk about that car a lot.

663
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of, like I desperately want one.

664
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So we are three.

665
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: But something obviously happened in the company back in the

666
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 5: days that someone from me and some of the engineers decided,

667
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: let's make a variant out of.

668
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 4: That that is more sport here. That is considering times

669
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: and everything was kind of revolutionary considering the company.

670
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 5: So obviously there had been even though for this long

671
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 5: long time where Bentley was kind of a second brand

672
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: with together with Voice, there must have been enthusiasts for

673
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 5: this brand that pushed it again and that they have

674
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 5: seen a business opportunity also and they had been right.

675
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 5: They had been proven right because everything I know then

676
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 5: the sales numbers definitely went up and Bentley established again

677
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 5: as a as a special brand. And I think this

678
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 5: specialty within Bentley, besides for sure having a super valuable car,

679
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 5: a unique car, small numbers you have to blend with having.

680
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: A sportiness that is built in.

681
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: I think there's still a chance to emphasize even more

682
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 5: the sportiness of the brand and we can maybe maybe

683
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 5: more even more exotic cars that some would not have considered. Well,

684
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: that's that can work with Eventley. But I consider that

685
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: the brand is being really really strong. It can offer

686
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: a lot of products under the.

687
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: Bentley brand as long as you keep this heritage.

688
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: This is this unique blend of having this super valuable car,

689
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: of having the sportiness, of having the craftsmanship in the

690
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 5: future for sure, also having the sustainability, with the technical

691
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 5: knowledge we have, with the abilities we have, and we

692
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 5: have to say we have from group technology what we

693
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: can use in certain degrees.

694
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: I kind of liked that idea about you didn't say it.

695
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying this so this isn't on you. But having

696
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: the Turbo R and that family of Bentley's sort of

697
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: as a touch point in the history that you can

698
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: refer to, but also maybe a bit of a north

699
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: star as you move forward to tap into whatever you

700
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: describe the excitement around that really gutsy, brawny, powerful driver's car.

701
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 5: This is a car for drivers, for sure. You can

702
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: be shuffled with them and that works pretty nice. But

703
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: it's a driver's car, and this this is aldo then

704
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 5: part of the engineering and the product is designed is

705
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: also made for drivers. I wonder in the car it handles,

706
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 5: how the acceleration is, how the steering is.

707
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: Is this driver's car?

708
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Yes? Well, and you're, you know, just starting out there

709
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: as the head driver. I was talking with Hannah about

710
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: this when she went to drive the the new Continental

711
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: and interview you. I thought, well, I'm sure the Continental

712
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: is a great car, and now I've driven it, so

713
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: I know it's fantastic to drive. But it wasn't something

714
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: that you developed from the start. And I've been thinking,

715
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: what is the first project that we will say, five

716
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: years from now? This was Frank's first car at Bentley.

717
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: Have you already started on it? Do you know what

718
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: it's going to be?

719
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: I have a very clear idea that I hope it

720
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: takes not five years.

721
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: How long will it take? I don't you know. I

722
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: don't know more.

723
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: The next podcast.

724
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: Come on. I mean, look, you have you have Benega

725
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: and a longer version of Flying Spur Continental and the

726
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: and the convertible version. Do you think there's any holes

727
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: in the portfolio? Is there something missing that you want

728
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,479
Speaker 2: to put back or recreate or create for the first time.

729
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: I would not say holes, even knowing well on the

730
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: things that are coming, especially with our next expect but

731
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 5: looking in some of the derive tips and looking on

732
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: ideas based on these cars, we have some ideas.

733
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: They might be surprising, but it would definitely have fun

734
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: in driving them.

735
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about the process,

736
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: because I've always thought start to finish a motor vehicle

737
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: takes five years. That's just a round number that's stuck

738
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: in my head and maybe it's from twenty years ago

739
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: and I'm wrong. So what is the process like when

740
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: you started the nine to eighteen to when it started,

741
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: you know, to when the first customer took delivery? How

742
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 2: long did that take?

743
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: Thirty eight months? Wow, very exact.

744
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: That was a very specific number.

745
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: Very specific, and it was it was pretty quick. I

746
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: would say today. It depends always what is a new car.

747
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 5: If there's a lot of things around, numbers are communicated

748
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 5: by different manufacturers.

749
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: Why it's always so difficult to compare.

750
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 5: But if you have an existing platform and you do

751
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: a new car based on that, so you have engines

752
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 5: and gearboxes and things to carry over. I would say

753
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: it would take you today between forty eight and fifty

754
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: six months, so your five years is pretty much the number.

755
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 5: But we also see that there is a need to

756
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: be quicker, to react quicker. I would say the progress

757
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: we are doing on the electronic software side forces a

758
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: little bit of manufacturers really to accelerate what I would

759
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 5: appreciate well, also with a little bit of motorsport background,

760
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 5: So being.

761
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: Quicker is not bad.

762
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Greak, I'm dying to know where are you living now

763
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: in your new role and have you found any great

764
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: driving roads in your area that you like to drive

765
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: just for your own enjoyment.

766
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: Well, I'm living not so far away from Croup on

767
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 5: the office, twenty minutes in Cheshire on a farm in

768
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 5: a bar conversion.

769
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: So come frut, how old? How old is the bar

770
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: and can version?

771
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: Maybe one hundred years, I guess.

772
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 6: I guess driving around in Cheshire is looking at the

773
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: size of the of the of the streets is a

774
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 6: little bit demanding, but not maybe the best place.

775
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: You'll look for, I've heard, but it's.

776
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: Not so far away to go peak district where you'll

777
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: find the first great roads to drive. And next weekend

778
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: we go north of Wales, what is definitely a great

779
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 5: place to drive amazing. So step by step, week weekend

780
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 5: by weekend, we're looking for opportunities going out taking my

781
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 5: Continental GG convertible a little bit around. That's but it's

782
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 5: also part of learning about the product, how to handle

783
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 5: what is it in the day to day usability.

784
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: I'm wondering about you growing up. I don't know if

785
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: you spent most of your time in Stuttgarter around I

786
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: went to tubing in so I'm familiar with the roads,

787
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: and I spent a lot of time at Filterstart and

788
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: Winstadt and you know the counch dot Vasen. What were

789
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: you into growing up? I mean you're like generation Golf, right, So.

790
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 4: What kind of cars?

791
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: Yes? What kind of cars were you driving in high school?

792
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: And what what spurred you to get so involved in

793
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: this industry other than you know, obviously growing up in

794
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: the bosom of it.

795
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: It was well a part definitely from the area because

796
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: I was growing up near to Voidling and so tubing

797
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 5: and that and giving me away, so you should know that,

798
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: of course, and car industry always was important. But my

799
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: parents told me when I was a kid, I was

800
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: always in cars all the time in everything.

801
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 4: And I remember in we had been on a on.

802
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 5: A holiday travel and I was excited about every car,

803
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: but it was I fell asleep and my parents later

804
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: told me there was a Lamborghini parsting us and I

805
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 5: missed that.

806
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: Since that time, I never s again in a car.

807
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: Now it's getting better, but for twenty years I never

808
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: ever slept because I.

809
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: Could miss a specific exotic supercar or something. Okay, and

810
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 5: well then always in technology, always interested in cars fascinated

811
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 5: me my whole life. The first one was what that was?

812
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 5: What I could afford was a Fia do know?

813
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh cool?

814
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: But it was an S so important. I did not engine,

815
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: only the super small engine.

816
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 5: Then was the golf too, and after the Golf tour

817
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: I have to think on after the GLF tour, it

818
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: was a Boxer.

819
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Nice.

820
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 4: My first colleagues.

821
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: Car are your car as an employee?

822
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Then?

823
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: Right?

824
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

825
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Do you own a car that you know you will

826
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: have forever? Currently?

827
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: Two of them? Yes?

828
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: What are they?

829
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 5: One is a nine nine to three convertible model year

830
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 5: ninety seven.

831
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: What color black?

832
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: Black? Black? Reimported from New York City?

833
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: Wow?

834
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: All black?

835
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, triple black.

836
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: It's key Manuel with the Molia upgrade on the Stormer

837
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 5: engine two hundred and eighty seven.

838
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 2: Power and the other.

839
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 4: But I keeped out on the c the US suspension

840
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: that was not good.

841
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: And what's the other one?

842
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: Everyone is a Citish Rae Touring two thousand eighteen.

843
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Great common wow and better for the for the Autobahn

844
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: than other roads. Don't you think the rest of US

845
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: could learn a thing or two from Germany about unlimited

846
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: speeds or do you think that they need to change that?

847
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: That's an interesting question.

848
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 5: And number one, the reality in Germany is not so

849
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 5: many unlimited roads that everybody seeing, especially if.

850
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: You're south of Germany. Everywhere one set down really open

851
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: is super limited. The traffic is very dense. Even if

852
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: it's unlimited, it's super dense.

853
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 5: Well, I like to I enjoy it if it's if

854
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: it's possible, but it needs a.

855
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 4: Lot of experience as to do so and to have

856
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: it properly. And he has to be vice if you

857
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 4: have a powerful.

858
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: Car or I like that. I agree, I don't.

859
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't think drivers in LA should have unlimited speed limits,

860
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: knowing how knowing how these people drive out on these streets.

861
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: We cannot have that here. You can't trust us with us.

862
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: I would highly recommend to not do so.

863
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: That was Frank Stephen Walliser, Doctor Frank Stephen Wallaser, the

864
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: CEO of Bentley, holding his cards a little bit close

865
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: to the vest.

866
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: No, we're gonna have to have him on again. I

867
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: guess I take it as a good sign. It means

868
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: this is a conversation ongoing.

869
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: I suppose.

870
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to watch. Also,

871
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: their competition with Rolls Royce. I don't know, do they

872
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: see themselves as direct competitors anymore or something completely because

873
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: still offers a twelve cylinder motor and Bentley does not.

874
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Let me just take the liberty of saying, I don't

875
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: think Rolls Royce thinks they're competitors. Yeah, so you know,

876
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: and that's no shade on Bentley. I think Bentley, of course,

877
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: is going more to what we talked about at the

878
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: beginning of this show, more of a sporting driver, like

879
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: perhaps the higher end Mercedes.

880
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Right.

881
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

882
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't crossh up those cars for the record, sounds

883
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: like you in your mind there's some cross shopping, but

884
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

885
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean, look, if you're gonna pay four

886
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars for a car, you're not going to

887
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: probably price it shop at against something that price is

888
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: priced it at half.

889
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: I'm good in a Ferrari. If I'm spending four hundred thousand,

890
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: I feel for the record.

891
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: I would get a Lamborghini therein lie our differences, I

892
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: guess you would still compare the Bentley Continental against Does

893
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Rolls Royce even make the Wraith anymore? I don't know. Yes,

894
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: those those are too too much for me, obviously to

895
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: even configure, because in my wildest dreams, I can imagine

896
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 2: getting the nine to eleven that I want, But I

897
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 2: cannot imagine ever spending Bentley or Rolls Royce money, even

898
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: if I somehow earned it, you know what.

899
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: This is on a totally different topic. But I was

900
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: in the same room as the guy who won the

901
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: two billion dollar Power Bowl payout a few days ago,

902
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: and he's very you know, and you can google him

903
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: and he's buying like old stuff at auctions, And can

904
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: you imagine, I mean, this is just a guy.

905
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: This is Can I imagine or do I on a

906
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: daily basis?

907
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: I either I it can't even my mind can't process.

908
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, you would never in a million,

909
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: even still I think he won in twenty twenty two.

910
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Even still, you never ever ever guess he looks like

911
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: just some dude.

912
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: I mean, so weird. I do this all the time

913
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: in my head. First of all, if you win the

914
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 2: two billion dollar jackpot.

915
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: Do you take it all up front?

916
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: Would? I would probably get the payout it's higher, but

917
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: there are many, I think maybe better arguments for taking

918
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: it up front. You're you're not getting half of that,

919
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 2: so you're not gonna end up with even a billion

920
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: after the government takes you know its share. But don't

921
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: you put your dream garage together every time you daydream

922
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: about having a billion dollars or one hundred million or

923
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: fifty million, like I do that constantly. Yeah, Yes, I

924
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: would need a truck and that would be probably right now.

925
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: That would be the Chevy Silverado twenty five hundred ZR two.

926
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: I would need a nine to eleven. I think I

927
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: would take a careerra tee even if I had all

928
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: the money, because I don't really need an ST and

929
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: I think it would take forever to get one. I

930
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: would need a big luxury sedan for the whole family,

931
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: and you know that I want like the twenty twenty

932
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: two BMW M seven sixty with the V twelve. Yeah,

933
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: probably needed a big suv. I don't know. No minivans, No,

934
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: definitely not a minivan. By the way, So I was

935
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: talking to you last week about my minivan and I

936
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: had them cut it out of the podcast because I wasn't.

937
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 3: Gonna say that we don't have to talk about it.

938
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem. On the day we recorded last week,

939
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: I had driven it for all of a half hour

940
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: and it was like I was in a good mood.

941
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: I drove it a few people to Pickleball and I

942
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, this is so cool. I'm driving the Chrysler. Yes,

943
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: because it's brand new, beautiful paint. It's not a great

944
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: looking vehicle from the outside, obviously it's a Chrysler Pacific,

945
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: a minivan, but the seating position is so different from

946
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: anything I'm used to. You're sitting like at the front

947
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: on the edge of a skateboard. Yeah, And I thought, wow,

948
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: this is really cool and it kind of glides along

949
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: the ride felt fine, you know, on my suburban roads

950
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: out to the pickleball and I was so into it.

951
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: I was like, that's awesome. Why have I been avoiding

952
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: a minivan? It's so spacious, you know, the load floor

953
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: is so low, and you know the two doors that

954
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: go all the way back. Like I thought, this is

955
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: I've been missing this, this is your new you. Yeah.

956
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: And then the next day, like I commuted to work

957
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: in it, and I realized, no, that is not a

958
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: good car.

959
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Man. It's a good thing you didn't actually buy that. Like,

960
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: what if you actually bought it after a fifteen minute I.

961
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: Would know that, And that actually is a very good point. Yeah,

962
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: so many people test drive a car for fifteen minutes

963
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 2: or a half hour or maybe an hour max. And

964
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: you just don't have any time to get used to

965
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: a vehicle, not at all.

966
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: And that that would be like my mood.

967
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: My mood would determine how I feel, like whatever I

968
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: ate for lunch, you know, that would determine how I

969
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: was feeling potentially about a car, Like if I had

970
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: just done a great workout or whatever.

971
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: I can see how that affects. You know, you need

972
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: more than fifteen minutes.

973
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: You need it for a week because you got to

974
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: commute with it, go to the grocery store, go to

975
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: an event. You know, I take it on date night exactly,

976
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: get your friends in it, take it up to Bear

977
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Mountain or Angelie's Crest or whatever. Like, you need to

978
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: do a whole gamut of things with it to understand

979
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: if you want to spend your harder in cash.

980
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not to say that a car has

981
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: to do everything, but it's just to say you will

982
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: learn which tasks this tool is good for.

983
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're okay with.

984
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: That or not, where do you want to make compromises?

985
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: Where are you willing to make compromises? Yeah? So the

986
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: Chrysler minivan, I mean, for for what it is, Like

987
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: if it was just if I was using it just

988
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 2: in my suburbs taking the kids to you know, basketball

989
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: and dance or whatever. I guess that makes sense. But

990
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: as soon as I got into the city, I realized

991
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: it already felt like a beat up uber over these roads.

992
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: And I actually had kind of a revelation because you

993
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: know how disappointed I am with the suspension in the

994
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: GLS that we bought. I realized, I need a body

995
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: on frame truck as a family car.

996
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: Isn't like that? Yeah that's cool, Yeah, I mean why not?

997
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: I just need the heavy duty suspension. It's not like

998
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking it off road. I'm not really tolling anything.

999
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: It's just that suspension in these roads here in New

1000
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: York in the metropolitan area. Like you need something that

1001
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: could survive armageddon?

1002
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: Is that a crew cab? I mean, is that big

1003
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: enough to fit the family realistically?

1004
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean a crew cab like F one fifty

1005
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: or Silverado for sure fits the whole family. I was

1006
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: thinking like a Tahoe, you know, or a Yukon, which

1007
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: is essentially the same thing with a bat Yeah, but no,

1008
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: what I mean is body on frame. I mean, not

1009
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: you a yeah, so yes, not any suv in fact,

1010
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: most SUVs. No, it's only like Tahoe and probably what's

1011
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: the Nissan, the Armada, you know or whatever. The Tundra

1012
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: is called an suv form it starts with it Sequoya,

1013
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: sequoyah Sequoya. And I imagine that the Ford Expedition is also,

1014
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, a body on frame truck. And if it's not,

1015
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: I just I don't have any time for it as

1016
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: a family car because I need solid suspension for driving

1017
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: my kids around the New York metropolitan area.

1018
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I support it. I've no comeback to that other

1019
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: than you. It makes sense to me, honestly.

1020
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 2: All Right, I guess that's all we have time for

1021
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: this week. Yeah, I'm really looking forward, Hannah, to you

1022
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: spending more time in this Mercedes AMG S sixty three

1023
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 2: E Performance.

1024
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look for those Easter eggs. They're better be

1025
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: an American flag in there somewhere today.

1026
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: Today, on the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of

1027
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: the eleventh month, it all ended.

1028
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 3: Oh, November is my favorite month, my too.

1029
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 2: Yep, wait, when's your birthday?

1030
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 3: The sixteenth?

1031
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: Nice? Yeah, coming November babies excellent. Okay, that's it for

1032
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: us this week. I'm Matt Miller, and

1033
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 3: I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is Bloomberg.