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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody, I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading the

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<v Speaker 1>Blaus Herplause. Addition, as we hear from the two legends

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<v Speaker 1>selected by season ticket holders this year to join the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Ring of Honor, Boomer Asiasin and Chad Johnson. The

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<v Speaker 1>one of those locations, I can personally recommend dodgeball archery.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember the five d's of dodgeball still apply dodge, duck, dip, dive,

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<v Speaker 1>and dodge. Now let's get to our first guest. Two

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<v Speaker 1>players in Bengals history have won the NFL MVP Award,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Anderson in nineteen eighty one and Boomerisiasin in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight. Each quarterback led the Bengals to the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl in his MVP season, and now they are both

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<v Speaker 1>members of the Bengals Ring of Honor. Boomer ranks in

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<v Speaker 1>the top three in team history in passing yards, touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>and yards per attempt, and the final pass of his

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<v Speaker 1>career was a seventy seven yard touchdown strike to Darnay

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<v Speaker 1>Scott but Boomer's impact went far beyond the stats. He is,

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<v Speaker 1>without question, one of the most charismatic leaders in team history.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my conversation with the Blonde Bomber, Norman Julius assiasin Boomer,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a former MVP, you won the Walter Payton

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<v Speaker 1>Man of the Year Award, you are in the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Maryland Hall of Fame, and now the fans have

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<v Speaker 1>selected you for the Bengals Ring of Honor. What does

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<v Speaker 1>this particular honor mean to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's pretty cool, Dan to say, at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years, I was doing Monday Night football and

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<v Speaker 2>I would go to these stadiums and I had watched

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<v Speaker 2>the home teams all celebrate their past. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>Jacksonville Jaguars, the Carolina Panthers, all these new teams had

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<v Speaker 2>rings of Honor, and I always wondered why the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>chose not to do that. And I think that was

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<v Speaker 2>at a difference to the great Paul Brown. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was the one that brought the team there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the one with one of the greatest coaches

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of the league, if not the greatest coach.

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<v Speaker 2>So in my eyes always felt like it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was Paul Brown's team, it was Paul Brown's legacy. And

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<v Speaker 2>then really, when you think about his grant granddaughters coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to work for the franchise and being exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>everything else that was going on around in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why don't we celebrate our history? And that

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<v Speaker 2>took place three years ago with obviously the inaugural class

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<v Speaker 2>of Paul Brown and Anthony Munos and the great Kenny Anderson.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to say it's taken a while, It's

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<v Speaker 2>finally happening, and I'm great. I'm very grateful to our fans,

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<v Speaker 2>our season ticket holders for voting me in this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to get there that Monday night to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Mike Brown about you. Here's what he had

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I'm going to read this off my notepad.

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<v Speaker 1>Boomer was tough. He could play under harsh conditions that

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<v Speaker 1>could be physical injuries or whatever else, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>not deterred. The players liked him. He was a leader

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<v Speaker 1>that they all respected for his abilities as a player,

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<v Speaker 1>and it went beyond that. He had a way of

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<v Speaker 1>talking to them and they acknowledged him as the first

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<v Speaker 1>among equals, if you will, they listened to him. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think of Mike's quote?

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty special. Actually, it means that he noticed he

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<v Speaker 2>noticed me in college. I know that he scouted me

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<v Speaker 2>in college I think six or seven of my games,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was one of the reasons why they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up selecting me. I wish they would have selected me

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit earlier. That would have been nice. But

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<v Speaker 2>I always knew that he liked me as a player.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he respected me in the locker room, the

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<v Speaker 2>way that I treated my teammates, the way that I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the guys, but also the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I carried myself in the meeting rooms and on the

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<v Speaker 2>practice field and then ultimately out to the game onto

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<v Speaker 2>the game field. And you know, nothing is more satisfying

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<v Speaker 2>and more fulfilling than watching a young player that you

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<v Speaker 2>can impact. And that's why my final five games in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety seven were some of the best games that

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever been a part of, not only because we

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<v Speaker 2>were scoring a lot of points, but because I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the impact that an old geezer like me could have

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<v Speaker 2>on young players. With just a little bit of direction,

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<v Speaker 2>they could find their game and find out truly how

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<v Speaker 2>great they were, and I think that's really what Mike

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<v Speaker 2>is talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the eighty fourth draft. Let's go back. You

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<v Speaker 1>were the first quarterbacks selected, but it did come in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round, number thirty eight overall to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any idea why you lasted until the

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<v Speaker 1>second round.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably was perceived to be a pain in the neck,

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<v Speaker 2>which I probably turned out to be for Sam Wish

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<v Speaker 2>a few times, I was not afraid to voice my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably another reason why. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>know that there was a bidding war going on for

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in the USFL, and I do believe that the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals would have taken Steve Young had they held on

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<v Speaker 2>to the number one pick. But Steve Young decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go to the USFL and go play with the La Express,

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<v Speaker 2>So that left me as the next quarterback. So you

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<v Speaker 2>would think, Okay, maybe they'll take me number one. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't really know the true story as

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<v Speaker 2>to why they traded that number one pick and ended

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<v Speaker 2>up with three picks in the top twenty eight in

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<v Speaker 2>that particular draft and didn't select me with any of

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<v Speaker 2>those picks either. So I was wondering if maybe my

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<v Speaker 2>name had fallen off the board or something, or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had forgotten about me. But when Sam Weisch did call,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, do you want to be a Bengal?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, are you sure you want me? So our

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<v Speaker 2>relationship started off very uniquely at that on that particular day.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know why. You know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons why things happen in life that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>really control, and I just think that, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was out of my hands, and I knew this that

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<v Speaker 2>prior to that draft, I did say that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be an NFL player, that I did not want

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<v Speaker 2>to go play for the Washington fed Erroles or the

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<v Speaker 2>Memphis show Boats. I mean, I wanted to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL. So I remember my agent telling me, you

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<v Speaker 2>should have never said that, because that's going to take

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<v Speaker 2>away any bargaining that we have. But you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals credit, people don't realize this. They gave me

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<v Speaker 2>the largest contract that a second round draft pick had

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<v Speaker 2>ever received in the NFL, and they did it really

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<v Speaker 2>quickly with me. I wasn't holding out or any of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and we came to an agreement relatively quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So your rookie year was Sam's rookie year as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny was still around as the starting quarterback, although you

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<v Speaker 1>did start four games that rookie year and went three

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<v Speaker 1>and one. What stands out about those early beginnings in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the first time I walked I walked into

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive meeting room, and I mean I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>I was the dumbest guy on the earth. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had guys in there, Chris collins Worth, Anthony Munos,

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<v Speaker 2>Max Montoya, Dave Remington, Pat Mcanalie, Steve Krider. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they just had traded for James Brooks. I believe Rodney

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<v Speaker 2>Holman was in there. mL Harris was in there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just overwhelmed. I couldn't believe all that you

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<v Speaker 2>had to learn, and they were talking a foreign language.

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<v Speaker 2>I really had no idea what I was getting myself into.

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<v Speaker 2>And quite frankly, I think if I went back and

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<v Speaker 2>asked those players whether or not they thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to turn out to be anything, I guarantee you

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<v Speaker 2>every single one of them would say, there's no way

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's ever going to make it. And I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>forget playing in those four games, I really had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea what I was doing. This is why Chris collins

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<v Speaker 2>Worth I think his career was shortened because my rookie

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<v Speaker 2>year I almost got him killed. And I remember my

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<v Speaker 2>first touchdown pass was to all people, a tackle that

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<v Speaker 2>was playing right tight end on the goal line in Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>to Anthony Multios. I mean, it was just it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So but I was blessed when I really think back

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<v Speaker 2>to it, to have a coach like Sam, an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator like Bruce Coslet, an offensive line coach like Jimmy McNally,

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<v Speaker 2>a great running back coach and Jimmy Anderson, and a

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<v Speaker 2>tight end coach and Tiger Johnson along with all of

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<v Speaker 2>those great players. I finally figured it out in year

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<v Speaker 2>two and from that point on it was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. The more we can do, the better we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So all of that is really interesting to me because

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<v Speaker 1>together you and Sam helped change NFL history really by

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<v Speaker 1>pioneering the no huddle offense. And this is before helmet radios.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sam isn't telling you what you can do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're running the whole show. You made it look easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but how hard was it Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the beginning, it was pretty tough. Know, my rookie year,

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<v Speaker 2>I really struggled. I mean I would go home at

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<v Speaker 2>the playbook and my wife Cheryl will be sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd be trying to memorize it like it was

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, lines in a movie or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was not easy. But the more once it clicked

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<v Speaker 2>for me and I started to understand how they were

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<v Speaker 2>describing defenses, how we were calling plays, and our personnel

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<v Speaker 2>groupings and why certain past protections didn't work with certain

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<v Speaker 2>personnel on the field, it really started to come easy

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And I think Sam and Bruce saw me

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<v Speaker 2>as a guy that needed more, that I needed to

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<v Speaker 2>be challenged, that I needed to be challenged mentally, that

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to be challenged physically, and Bruce was great

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<v Speaker 2>at that. Bruce would really, I mean, you'd get on

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<v Speaker 2>my ass like you wouldn't believe in practice, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could take it. And I love being coached hard like that.

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<v Speaker 2>My high school coach coached me hard, my college coaches

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<v Speaker 2>coached me hard, and Bruce Cooset was really the hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam was, you know, he was the brains behind a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of this, but Bruce was the one that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>after every practice I would watch film with and he'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like, you gotta hold your arm up, you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>do this. Look at your footwork is terrible. And Sam

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<v Speaker 2>would put me through all the drills. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just felt like the more I got,

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<v Speaker 2>the easier became. And you know, we just had so

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<v Speaker 2>many different aspects to it, and I know that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys had trouble with it, but at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, I would always make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knew what was going on on the field because

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<v Speaker 2>my life depended on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're the MVP in eighty eight, you lead the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to the Super Bowl. That team still holds the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise record for most points scored per game in a season.

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<v Speaker 1>When you remember eighty eight, what's the most vivid part

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<v Speaker 1>of that season that stands out?

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess you're just going to pass over eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven half.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want to talk about laying down in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a bus, that's fine with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know, this is the thing, This is maybe

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<v Speaker 2>why I dropped in the draft, right. You got to

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe these are the things that they projected could

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<v Speaker 2>have happened if they would have drafted me. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven is a part of eighty eight. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of me as a player. And eighty seven, you know,

0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I stood up for our players rights. I believed I

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<v Speaker 2>was making the most money in the NFL at the time,

0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.000
<v Speaker 2>so I was losing the most money as we sat out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was seventy five thousand dollars a week.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, while I'm not proud of some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that went on during that time, I am

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<v Speaker 2>proud that that was the impetus to where we are

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<v Speaker 2>today in the NFL some forty years later, with the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL players, you know, making it, at least at my position,

0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.280
<v Speaker 2>forty million dollars a year. So who would have ever

0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.720
<v Speaker 2>thought that would have been the case. So maybe something

0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.160
<v Speaker 2>good did come out of eighty seven. And I remember

0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I was booed, and I can't imagine what it would

0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.360
<v Speaker 2>have been. Had social media been around. I probably would

0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.160
<v Speaker 2>have been run out of town. I was this close

0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.120
<v Speaker 2>to being run out of town. I'm sure instead of

0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.240
<v Speaker 2>running me out of town, they ran Dave Remington out

0:12:55.240 --> 0:13:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of town because he was the assistant players representative along

0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.520
<v Speaker 2>with me. So eighty eight, I did have a chip

0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.400
<v Speaker 2>on my shoulder because I lost my best friend. He

0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:12.000
<v Speaker 2>ended up ended up in Philadelphia. And we had a

0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.680
<v Speaker 2>good team, you know. Eighty six we were really a

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<v Speaker 2>good team. We were very close. We were ten and

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<v Speaker 2>six and didn't make the playoffs. And eighty seven we

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<v Speaker 2>got off to a really unique start by losing our

0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.040
<v Speaker 2>second game to the forty nine ers. We should have

0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.720
<v Speaker 2>never lost. And then we lost so many games in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter when we came back from the strike

0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:31.959
<v Speaker 2>and it was just a killer. It killed all of us.

0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.920
<v Speaker 2>So eighty eight was great. We got off to that

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<v Speaker 2>seven and zero start, and I think I threw like

0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.680
<v Speaker 2>four or five interceptions in New England, and interestingly enough,

0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you know the Bengals. We created a lot of rules

0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.719
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. A lot of people don't realize this,

0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.079
<v Speaker 2>and one of the rules that we created was the

0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.200
<v Speaker 2>double catch rule, meaning where the receiver and the defensive

0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.160
<v Speaker 2>back both had their hands on the ball, tie goes

0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.520
<v Speaker 2>to the offense these days. Back in those days, ties

0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.040
<v Speaker 2>would go to whoever the official thought control the ball.

0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget throwing what I thought was a touchdown

0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.360
<v Speaker 2>pass to Chris collins Worth and he coming down with it,

0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and the dB was draped all over and I forget

0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.960
<v Speaker 2>who it was, and they gave the ball to the

0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.000
<v Speaker 2>New England Patriots in the end zone. This is a

0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.640
<v Speaker 2>game we should have been eight and oh and we

0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.440
<v Speaker 2>were so ticked off. And I think it was either

0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the next year or the year after that they amended

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<v Speaker 2>the rule saying that if two guys do come down

0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.640
<v Speaker 2>with it, the offense is going to get the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of great things happened in eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>of a lot of fun stuff and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>crazy stuff. At the end of the year with whether

0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.040
<v Speaker 2>or not we're going to be able to run the

0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 2>no huddle in the AFC Championship game, I think Marvel

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Levy did a really good job trying to get into

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<v Speaker 2>our heads and distract us from, you know, what was

0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:48.000
<v Speaker 2>the most important thing, and that was winning that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So the simultaneous catch rule should be the Assias and

0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.000
<v Speaker 1>collins Worth rule.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is. I mean, you know, there were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things that we did that pushed the

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<v Speaker 2>envelope on the field, and I think that was one

0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:00.960
<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been thirty four and a half years since

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<v Speaker 1>Montana to Taylor. What about that game gets under your

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<v Speaker 1>skin to this day.

0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Third down, I think we had a lot of third

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<v Speaker 2>and shorts, and unfortunately, you know, we lost one of

0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.840
<v Speaker 2>our best players the night before and Stanley Wilson, and

0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:25.000
<v Speaker 2>everybody who is a Bengal fan obviously knows the story

0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.600
<v Speaker 2>about Stanley. What a lot of people don't realize was

0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.400
<v Speaker 2>just how valuable Stanley was to our team and all

0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the little things that he would do on third down

0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and special teams, and he was a virtual lock to

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<v Speaker 2>get a third and one or fourth and one, and

0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.560
<v Speaker 2>we would go for it when Stanley was on the field.

0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, Sam made this fateful decision to basically suspense

0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Stanley from the super Bowl the night before the game

0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.040
<v Speaker 2>because of drug use, which he had already been suspended

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<v Speaker 2>I think three times for. And we were angry meeting

0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.520
<v Speaker 2>that night that Stanley did this, you know, I remember

0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Chris Collins were getting up into a meeting, said we

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<v Speaker 2>got to win the game for Stanley. And I don't

0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.920
<v Speaker 2>think any of us thought that. I think all of

0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.600
<v Speaker 2>us thought like, we cannot believe that this is going

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<v Speaker 2>on right now, and we need to win this for us.

0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've all, you know, tried to help Stanley

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<v Speaker 2>in so many different ways and support him and love

0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.680
<v Speaker 2>him and give him all the support that he needed.

0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And here we are, the biggest day of all of

0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.480
<v Speaker 2>our lives, and unfortunately he could not resist. And we

0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.280
<v Speaker 2>understand that drug addiction is very strong, and it showed

0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.320
<v Speaker 2>itself in that regard. But you know, the next day,

0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:41.440
<v Speaker 2>we woke up and we played well. Our defense played outstanding,

0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 2>especially after losing Tim Krumry in the first quarter to

0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 2>a broken leg. And I'll never forget David Grant and

0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Skip McClendon and Jim Scale and Jason Buck those guys

0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.760
<v Speaker 2>played great and they held down one of the greatest

0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.640
<v Speaker 2>offenses the NFL had ever seen until, of course, the

0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.080
<v Speaker 2>last drive and we just could not score a touchdown

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and we could not convert on third down. And thankfully

0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.359
<v Speaker 2>we had what I consider one of the great big

0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.040
<v Speaker 2>game kickers of all time in Jim Breach, and he

0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.720
<v Speaker 2>would miss. I think he probably would have been the

0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.240
<v Speaker 2>MVP had we won the game because he was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I know your shoulder wasn't one hundred percent down the

0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.000
<v Speaker 1>stretch that year. You downplayed it super Bowl Week and

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.439
<v Speaker 1>at the time and immediately afterward. How bad was it?

0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I mean, I just it doesn't really matter.

0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.159
<v Speaker 2>You're on the field. You're on the field, you know.

0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 2>And I say the same thing today about today's acts.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're good enough to be out there and playing,

0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.080
<v Speaker 2>then you then that means the guy behind you isn't

0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.280
<v Speaker 2>good enough to beat you. So I was on the

0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.879
<v Speaker 2>field and I never make any bones or excuses about

0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.760
<v Speaker 2>any of it. We had our chances to win, and

0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget walking off, you know, with about three

0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:51.160
<v Speaker 2>fourteen or so to go in the game, and Sam

0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 2>actually said, I think we might have left too much

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.879
<v Speaker 2>time on the clock. And I think back some of

0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the decisions that we made. We meaning we all had input,

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.479
<v Speaker 2>and Sam was great that way. He would always ask us,

0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the players, what do you think? What do you want

0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 2>to do? You know, most coaches nowadays are so much

0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:12.560
<v Speaker 2>more aggressive on third and fourth down, especially if you're

0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 2>playing against great quarterbacks, which we obviously were. And you know,

0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.520
<v Speaker 2>we played it close to the best, and we played

0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.520
<v Speaker 2>it by the book, and that book ended up kicking

0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 2>us right in the ascid at the end, at the

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>end of the game, because what we should have done

0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.240
<v Speaker 2>has been more aggressive, probably on third and fourth down,

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and gone for it and tried to keep the ball

0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:34.440
<v Speaker 2>away from the great Joe Montana and score touchdowns ourselves,

0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:35.840
<v Speaker 2>which we are unable to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier in the conversation, you mentioned the final five games

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<v Speaker 1>of your NFL career. I had just moved to Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first year I covered the team for

0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Fox nineteen. To this day, I say it might have

0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.719
<v Speaker 1>been the coolest thing that I've ever covered because your

0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.399
<v Speaker 1>kids were there. I don't know how much they remember it.

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They were really young at the time, but obviously we're

0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.119
<v Speaker 1>all familiar with Gunner's story at that point, and you

0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>were spectacular in those games. Statistically, it was the best

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you ever played. What was it like as a professional

0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.200
<v Speaker 1>athlete to go out that way?

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.679
<v Speaker 2>It was remarkable. I often think of Peyton Manning winning

0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl fifty and walking off into the sunset knowing

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that was his final game, and how lucky and how

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 2>fortunate he was to be able to have that. But

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I had six weeks where I was a part of

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:28.440
<v Speaker 2>something that I don't think anybody expected. I certainly knew

0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.080
<v Speaker 2>we had a good team. I knew we had a

0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 2>really good young, aggressive, young team, especially on offense that

0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.760
<v Speaker 2>just needed a little direction. And unfortunately Jeff Blake was

0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 2>struggling and he got hurt and things weren't working out,

0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>and there was a lot of like I think distain

0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.399
<v Speaker 2>in the locker room, and I hate that kind of stuff.

0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>And I'd been through losing before, so I knew that.

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>When Bruce came to me and said you're going to

0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.840
<v Speaker 2>be the guy going against Jacksonville, I was like, okay,

0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and I just told our guys that look, man, you

0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 2>better be awake because if somebody is not open on

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.160
<v Speaker 2>a particular play, that doesn't mean I'm throwing it to him.

0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, if I call seventy eight X hook and

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Carl Pickens is the number one receiver, if he's not open, Darnay,

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:12.240
<v Speaker 2>you better get your ass where it's supposed to be

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.160
<v Speaker 2>because I'm throwing the ball to you, and I'll never forget.

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.520
<v Speaker 2>We called that play and I came back to Darnay

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and I threw it the Darnay and he caught it,

0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and he came back to the hoddle and he was

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.920
<v Speaker 2>smiling like, oh my god, this really does work. And

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that was some of the most fulfilling football that I

0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 2>had ever played, because I had a young offensive line.

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Willie Anderson was a part of that offensive line. My

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 2>center Derek Brills used to get mad at me because

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I was going so fast, like before he could even

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.439
<v Speaker 2>get his hands on the ball. I was calling for it,

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was doing that in practice too, because I

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 2>wanted those guys to think fast. I wanted everybody to

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>think fast because I wasn't the athlete that I once was,

0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but up top I could think better to end faster

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.680
<v Speaker 2>than anybody on the field. And I knew that if

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I could just get like Corey Dillon and Kajanna and

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Eric b Enemy and James Hundon and David Dunn and

0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Darnay and Carl Pickens and Marco Battaglia and all those

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.640
<v Speaker 2>guys on the same page. Man, we had a lot

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of talent, and all I did was provide a roadmap

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 2>and they all bought into it. And you saw just

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 2>how explosive that offense could be. So like I said,

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 2>it was fulfilling for me. It was heartwarming because my

0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:29.040
<v Speaker 2>kids really started to understand what I was doing, and

0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.680
<v Speaker 2>they were at most of the games. Gunner was six

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and Sydney was five, and I'll never forget walking off

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>of that field for the last time against the Ravens,

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.200
<v Speaker 2>wondering if I was ever going to come back again

0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:42.919
<v Speaker 2>as a player, because I knew I had in my

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.679
<v Speaker 2>back pocket one of the best broadcasting offers a player

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.240
<v Speaker 2>had ever been offered. At that point.

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.400
<v Speaker 1>You would have been thirty seven the next year. Tom

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Brady played for nine more years after he turned thirty seven.

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>But you elected to take that Monday night football broadcasting job.

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Any regrets, you know?

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember sitting in Mike Brown's office talking about contract extension,

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and the Browns wanted me back. Don't think that they

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, they did, and they made what I consider

0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>a legitimate, significant contract offer. But I also remember Mike saying,

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is a pretty damn good job that

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.679
<v Speaker 2>maybe you'll have for the next twenty five years, and

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 2>it is an unprecedented offer. And I'm like, well, maybe

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 2>he wants me to go.

0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure. But in my heart, and I've

0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.480
<v Speaker 2>said this before, I don't know if I could have

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 2>given them thirty two games, meaning two more years of football,

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.040
<v Speaker 2>like I had just given them the last five weeks

0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.760
<v Speaker 2>of that season. I don't know in my heart that

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I could have. And remember that it was still different

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.880
<v Speaker 2>back then. We were still getting hit. We were still

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:51.640
<v Speaker 2>getting you know, hit around the ankles and the knees,

0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we were playing on just awful fields.

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, Riverfront Stadium was one of the worst fields

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. It was hard, and you know, you

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 2>all always came out of those games banged up and bruised.

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I said, I think Chris Collinsworth probably

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 2>could have played an extra three years if you would

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.840
<v Speaker 2>have played on grass this entire career as opposed to

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the rock that we were playing on in the Riverfront

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and three River Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was.

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<v Speaker 2>A tough decision. I don't regret it, but I also

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 2>understood why I did what I did, and I never

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 2>really looked back.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thing, and I'll let you go. For most professional

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>football players, a fourteen year career would have been the peak,

0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>followed by a highly successful broadcasting career, but not in

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 1>your case. The Boomerasiasin Foundation has raised more than one

0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty million dollars towards cystic fibrosis and the

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 1>research and trying to find a cure. Your son, Gunners

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 1>in his thirties. He's a dad, he's thriving. Do you

0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>ever think about just how remarkable a life you have lived?

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<v Speaker 2>You put it that way, and it kind of makes

0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 2>me feel a little melancholy. I will say that. You know,

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons we are fighting this fight was

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 2>because of people like Frank the Ford and all the

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 2>parents that lost children to CF well before I ever

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>even got involved in this, And I was exposed assistic

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 2>bibrosis well before Gunner was born because of the Cincinnti

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Children's Hospitalistic Bibrosis Wing and hearing Frank the Ford's story

0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.479
<v Speaker 2>about losing his daughter Alex, so I just picked up

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 2>where he left off. And I remember calling him when

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Gunnar was diagnosed in nineteen ninety three, and at that

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 2>time I had just become the quarterback of the New

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 2>York Jets. The Bengals had traded me there to them,

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 2>And there was a thirty second kind of pregnant pause,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and then we were both kind of crying, and he

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 2>was saying, you know, my prayers have been answered, not

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>meaning that he wanted somebody to have seet, but somebody

0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>with some stature, somebody with a platform that could go

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 2>out there and fight for people to listen to if

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>we were willing to share the diagnosis. And we really

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 2>had no choice, and we took that and we ran

0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>with it. And I often say that, you know, Gunner

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>is my hero personally, and his son Casper is our

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 2>miracle collectively, and that miracle has been passed on or

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 2>will be passed on to generations to come because of

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the fight that Gunner fought, the fight that Frank the

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Ford has fought, and the fight that all other CF

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.919
<v Speaker 2>families and patients have fought. So I'm just kind of

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like the guys that's part of the quarterback, if you will,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 2>that has the football card that everybody seems to want.

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, it's truly a

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>team effort and that's what it has been for the

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>last thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations on this honor. Thank you for all you've done.

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<v Speaker 1>We look forward to seeing you at the ceremony this season.

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Thanks Dan, I appreciate it. Good to see again.

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>The Thing of Honor ceremony this year will be in

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>week three, September twenty fifth, when the Bengals host the

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<v Speaker 1>second player selected by the fans to join the Ring

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<v Speaker 1>of Honor this year is Chad Johnson, who joins another

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:38.439
<v Speaker 1>number eighty five, Isaac Curtis, as the second wide receiver

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to be honored. Chad holds the franchise records for career catches, yards,

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>and touchdown grabs. But it's not just what he did,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it's how he did it. Chad's fun loving persona and

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>elaborate touchdown celebrations made him one of the NFL's biggest

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>stars and one of the most popular players in team history.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my conversation with o Cho Senko Chad Johnson. Chad, congratulations,

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you have been selected by the fans for the Bengals

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Ring of honor. You are one of the first eight members.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Can you articulate what this honor means to you?

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<v Speaker 4>It means Oh my goodness, listen, it means everything. It

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 4>means everything. The fact that everything has come full circle.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Everything is come full circle, from getting that phone call

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 4>from Dick Lebow in two thousand and one to talking

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 4>to Mike Brown to being a part of the organization

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 4>and coming in there. And my whole thing was, how

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 4>can I make everyone's job around meetings? How can I

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 4>make football and Cincinnati fun again. I'd like to believe

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.400
<v Speaker 4>at some point I made it okay to wear Bengals gear.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Outside of Cincinnati.

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to be a breath of fresh air

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 3>do all I could.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, the Lombardi Trophy is always always an end goal,

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 4>but I wasn't able to tieve that it's a a

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 4>team effort, you know, on that matter. But from an

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 4>individual standpoint, I just wanted to make it fun for

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 4>Cincinnati and man and and put that that team and

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 4>that city back on the map in a respectable manner.

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I think I did that.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I did that just to some degree and to you know,

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 4>be shown appreciation for all the years of hard work

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 4>in tears.

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 3>It's awesome, It's it's a great honor. I'm very appreciative.

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm getting my flowers now while I can smell them,

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 4>which which is a good thing. And to me, I

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 4>think this honor means much more than that gold jacket, honestly,

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 4>because this is home. This, this is home for me.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 4>This is this is this is home. People have played

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 4>for throughout the years, fans that are voting, that understand

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 4>what I went through, the good times, the bad times,

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 4>ups and downs, and they accepted me as my true

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 4>authentic self, you know, myself. So I think this to me,

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 4>it means much more. No, I didn't have to beg

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have to knock on the door. I didn't

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 4>have to cry about being in This is This was

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 4>this was a welcome home.

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, you will always be a part of us.

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 3>And this means a lot to me, a lot.

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked Mike Brown about you. Here's what he said.

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Chad was a splendid player, but he was even greater

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>as a performer. He was fun, He made the people smile.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>What does that quote mean to you and what's your

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>relationship like with Mike and the Brown family.

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Listen my relationship with Mike and the Brown family. I

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 4>will always be indebted to him. I will always be

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 4>indebted to him. I have a special, a special place

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 4>at my heart of Mike Brown, obviously, Dick lebo Uh,

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Barbara Calse who was still on the table for me

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 4>when his draft time. And to think about the day

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 4>you get drafted, and I everybody cries on drafting, and

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't think understand, well, why why does everybody always cry?

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 4>It's really not the feeling of getting drafted. It's all

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 4>the work and preparation and all the ups and the

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 4>downs and the obstacles that you went through that play

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 4>through your mind and it's sort of an exhale moment,

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I finally made it, not on to

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 4>the next hurt. And that's where the tears come from,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 4>all the hard work and the fact that Mike Brown

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 4>gave me the opportunity to fulfill a childhood dream of mine,

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 4>even through all I've been through all those years and

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 4>never never almost not even making it, never really getting

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity, you know, bounce from college to college, and

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 4>just him giving me a chance. I will always be

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 4>thankful and grateful to mister Brown and that and that family.

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>You've brought up the draft a couple of times. So

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>let's go back to two thousand and one. Michael Vick

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>was the first pick, Drew Brees was the first pick

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of the second round. You were the fifth pick of

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the second round, skinny wide receiver out of Oregon State.

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You'd only been there for one season, and the Bengals

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously had been struggling. How did you feel about it

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Did you have any reservations about coming

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati considering how the team had performed.

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 4>Listen, I don't think people understood back then. It wasn't

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 4>about where you went. It's not where you go. And

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I ap preached this all the time even today. It's

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 4>not where you go, it's what you do when you

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 4>get there. I wouldn't care how bad they were at

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 4>that time, and people in Miami at my little draft

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 4>party were saying, oh, man, listen, look where you're going.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 4>You're going to Cincinnati. They're not really good. You know

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 4>the joke of that, I said, listen, give me a

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 4>year or two. Just give me a year or two.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Let me get in my first year, let me get

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 4>an understanding of the game.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Let me get my.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 4>Feet wet, give me a year or two and watch

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 4>how I turn things around. I will try to get

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 4>as many wins as possible, but I will turn things

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>around and get us back in a respective light nationally

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 4>and publicly. I guarantee you I will be able to

0:31:55.120 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 4>do this all by myself. And I did just that

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 4>that because it doesn't matter. I want to tell people

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 4>all the time they were about even even commits come

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 4>out of college, out of high school, my four star,

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 4>three star, five star, or I go to Alabama, I

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 4>go to Florida. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 4>what you do once you get there. If you can

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 4>play the game, the product will show on the field.

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 4>And dude, I was excited. I did listen. I exhausted

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 4>all possibility to do all I can to make the

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 4>game fun again. And I chose not to conform to wait.

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Not the higher up in Cincinnati, but the higher ups

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 4>around the NFL. They feel, once you get to a

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 4>certain level NFL, for that matter, you're supposed to change

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 4>the way you play, you supposed to carry yourself a

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:46.239
<v Speaker 4>certain way. And I refuse the change who I was,

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 4>and Cincinnati accepted me for being me. The Brown family,

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 4>my coaches and players accepted me for my physical self,

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 4>and that's what you got, cure entertainment weekend and week out.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>When players and coaches talk about what made you great,

0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they always start with your lightning quick feet and your

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>ability to stop and start. When I went back to

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>your draft profile, I saw that four five seven time

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>in the forty Yeah, what happened? I mean, that's not

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily fast.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 4>It's I think for being in that situation in Indianapolis.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 4>The nerves, my nerves got me. My nerves got the

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 4>best of me, and I wasn't four or five. When

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 4>you turn on the film, you obviously see I play

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 4>as if I'm four to three. I play as if

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm four or five. I mean, not play if if

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm four to four. But I play fast, which is

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 4>not Which is one of the reasons why I'm not

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 4>sure why we dictate so much about running in a

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 4>straight line when the game of football is not played

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 4>in a straight line. I'm four to left and right

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 4>stopping a dying red accelerate. You know I'm four too

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 4>all around as a football player, if that makes sense.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, as opposed to running in a straight line. Listen,

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't run track. I'm not a track runner, you know,

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 4>So if I was the track runner, I'd probably come

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 4>and last. But when it comes to playing the game

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 4>of football and get an open, creating separation, that's my

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 4>cup of team.

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>So the franchise really turned the corner in your third year,

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals hired Marvin Lewis. They drafted Carson Palmer. Of course,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Carson didn't play that first year. But let's talk a

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit about your Yeah, let's talk a little bit

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>about your relationship with Marvin. As an observer. At the time,

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like he mostly let you do your thing

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and understood that was important for you to be great

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 1>on the field, right.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I think Marvin and I we were always on the

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.720
<v Speaker 4>same page. I didn't do anything malicious for one. Nothing

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.799
<v Speaker 4>I ever did with malicious. It was always in a fun,

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 4>loving nature, adding pressure to myself and taking the pressure

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 4>off everyone else. So all they had to do is

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 4>go out there and play. I will provide the entertainment

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 4>I need to make sure I play at the highest level.

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 4>And I enjoyed welcoming that pressure, and it's it's what

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 4>I did. I think, as I'm sure you will be

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 4>able to remember, on the back end of my career,

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 4>some of the fun was kind of misfreud and that

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 4>was why, Okay, we're losing because he's doing this. But

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's really not the case, you know. But

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>there had to be a story had to be written.

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 4>And that's when Marvin kind of kind of tightened the

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 4>bolt and said this is just the stop.

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Just go play ball and understood that.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand and five you had the list.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>You sent pepto bismal to the Browns. Yeah, the weekly

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>celebration was a national obsession, but opponents never seemed to mind.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>They could find that balance of not offending the people

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that you were beating.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 4>The funny The funny thing about it is is I

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 4>am so likable. I am so likable, whether it be

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 4>the referees, whether it be the opponents we were playing

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 4>the following week. I was a very like the bulletponent

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 4>regardless of where I was playing. The fans even within

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 4>the division the Browns and seeing that they're supposed to

0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 4>hate me, but there was a love for me regardless

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 4>because of the fun and entertainment aspect. That I brought

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 4>to the game, whether I was playing home or way,

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 4>and the balance would just how can you hate me

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 4>when I'm doing nothing but making the game fun and

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 4>challenging those I'm playing week to week.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 3>That's it. It was merely a challenge.

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 4>It was a friendly challenge, and they never had any

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 4>issues to the point where people in pregame.

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.959
<v Speaker 3>As far as players, what you got for us this week?

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean? What do I have?

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 4>You're supposed to stop me? You know, the referees every

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 4>game for like three years straight. Referees would always catch

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.880
<v Speaker 4>me at the fifty. I can't wait to see what

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 4>you have for us today, And like everybody became somewhat

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 4>of an excitement to where I had eyes watching everywhere,

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 4>just not in Cincinnati.

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand and four, Carson takes overs the

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback and you two take off as one of

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 1>the great quarterback to wide receiver combos in NFL history.

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you put yourselves right up there with Montana to

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Rice Manning to Harrison whatever QB wide receiver combo you

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 1>want to name.

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would like to, I would like to.

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm not I'm not a I'm not a numbers guy,

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 4>but I think we had a consistent run. Carson is

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 4>one that I always say is responsible for my success,

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 4>being the person at the helm for most of my

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 4>most of my numbers in touchdowns. We did it consistently

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 4>for a very long time, which is hard to which

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 4>is hard to do. You know, I was healthy really

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 4>really all of my career. I don't really didn't really

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 4>get hurt. So I would like to put us up there.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about the time you two guys drove to

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Indy Indy P and mar I do did you the stands?

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Huh, yeah, we said, we said in the stands? What

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>year was this? Two thousand and four? We did that.

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 3>I forgot what year was.

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>It in the two thousand and four to two thousand

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>and six window. I don't remember the exact year.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we we just we just wanted to watch them

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 4>operate from the stands, not TV, to see how they

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 4>communicated with each other on the field, the chemistry that

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 4>they had. That is something that Carson and I really

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 4>wanted to harp on and build on and being something

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:21.880
<v Speaker 4>like Marvin and Peyton to where there was a certain

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 4>we got to the point where there was eye contact,

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 4>eye contact.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.719
<v Speaker 3>There was no signal needed, and based on what we

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 3>saw defensively, we already.

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 4>Knew what to do and we felt that was something

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 4>that Marvin and Peyton had because we had seen it

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 4>numerous times on TV and announced that we'll try to

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 4>break it down based on the chemistry they had in

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 4>the eye contact, not giving anything way to the defense,

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:46.280
<v Speaker 4>but like, you know what, we need to go watch

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 4>them and see what we can take from that and

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 4>implement it, you know, to our own our own union

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 4>here in Cincinnati.

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>There are a million memorable moments and games. There were

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the two hundred and sixty yard game against San Diego.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.319
<v Speaker 1>There were several games of three touchdown catches. Do you

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>have a favorite moment, a favorite game, a favorite catch,

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 1>anything along those lines.

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Man, No, not really, not really, because I think

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 4>my favorite moment would have would have had to be obviously,

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.320
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't able to win a win a Super Bowl.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, all those moments are great to me, man,

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 4>but nothing, nothing beats that phone call drafting. You know,

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't even on the field for my best moment.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna be honest that nothing can replicate or

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 4>duplicate or emulate that feeling man like my heart.

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't do if I cry, just make sure you edit that.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 4>But when you get that up here, when you get

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 4>that phone call, damn nothing not one catch, no touchdown,

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 4>nothing beats that.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Nothing beats that.

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing the low moment is easier to remember, and

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that's probably when Carson hurt his knee in the playoff

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 1>loss to the Steelers. Pittsburgh went on to win the

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl that year. If Carson doesn't get hurt in

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>your heart of hearts, do you believe you have a

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>ring right now?

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? Easily, easily.

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 4>No disrespect to the teams that were planning that year,

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 4>but we were doing offensively, but we were doing decently

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 4>with the takeaways and giving us the ball, allowing us

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 4>to outscore opponents, and then allowing the defense just to

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:29.360
<v Speaker 4>play with everything in front of you. Easily, easily. We

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 4>had a crazy number of takeaways that year. If I'm

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 4>not mistaken, defensively and offensively, it was we were jugging out.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:38.839
<v Speaker 4>We were jugging out.

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I would lose my reporter card if I

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you some question about celebrations during the course

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>of an interview. Did you have like a list did

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you take requests back at the height of the celebration mania. No,

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me that like everybody in town was

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:00.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to predict what was me next.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just I just as as things went at

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 3>what I think about.

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I would see something on a on a on a Saturday,

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, you know what, I'm gonna do that,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 4>like the river dance, the Lord of something, whatever the

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.399
<v Speaker 4>stage player musical was. It was in Chicago at the time,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 4>and the commercial came on in the hotel and so

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 4>you know what, if I score, I'm gonna try to

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:23.759
<v Speaker 4>do the river dance.

0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 3>And that's where they came from. Tiger Woods.

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Tiger Woods had won something either Friday or Saturday, and

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 4>I remember him doing doing the fist.

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 3>I like, you know what I'm gonna try. I'm gonna

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 3>try that when I score.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 4>And the proposal when I when we played Indy, a

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 4>friend of mine has got married, So you know what

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna listen, I'm gonna redo your proposal on the field,

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 4>and the cheerleaders knew exactly what to do. Everything like

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 4>its just it was further moments stuff. It was never

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 4>it was never thought out. Well, the dollar bribe. It's

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 4>not a celebration, but trying to bribe the red for

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 4>the dollar, like, just that's it in the moment.

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, I got in trouble for it, but it's

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 3>so memorable and so fun and just I don't know.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 4>I just kept the tension at ease if there was

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 4>any I just kept it lighthearted and fun.

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you like Jamar doing the gritty or do you

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>need more variety?

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean the gritty is him.

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 4>I think I think it's very fitting for him, is

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 4>fitting for this style of this era that we're in

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 4>right now.

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I.

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 4>Was more creative in an entertaining fashion purposely adding pressure

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 4>to myself. I don't think that's in the player's DNA

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 4>in this day and age, because it forces you. I

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 4>put all this pressure on myself now I have to

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 4>go out and perform like I was the complete opposite.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So one of the things I admire about you is

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>your willingness to try anything. You box, Yeah, not on

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>a bull one time, you're a bull rider. You famously

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>raised a horse. I mean, you name it, You're willing

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to try it. You've played professional soccer. Is there something

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>on your plucket list still? That you are eager to try.

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm going I'm swimming with killer whales in the wild.

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 4>You're laughing, I'm serious, I'm serious.

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>That's serious. You're gonna swim with killer whales.

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 4>From swim with killer whales in the wild. Listen to

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 4>the people in Norway, the people that live in New Zealand.

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 4>They have the luxury of actually doing so just on

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 4>a whim. It's like it's normal. It's like it's normal

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.680
<v Speaker 4>there and that. And obviously if the NFL didn't pan out,

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, I always wanted to be a marine biologist

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 4>and a veterinarian.

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge dog lover and a huge killer whale lover.

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.359
<v Speaker 4>For those that don't know, my entire right leg from

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.279
<v Speaker 4>my waist all the way to my my ankle is

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 4>orca theme. I'm tattooed with orcas. So I'm a huge

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 4>fan of them. Know everything there is about killer whales,

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 4>and my dream is to swim with them in the wild.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna happen, and I'm going to create a YouTube channel,

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 4>and that's going to be my first and could be

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 4>very well be my last video. But if I do

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 4>go out, I'm going to go out the way I want.

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 1>To all right, Just if you're going to do this,

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>go with somebody that knows how to do it safely.

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Please on behalf of all Bengals fans. They want to

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>see you, you know, represent this franchise into old age.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.359
<v Speaker 3>I got you, I got you, all right.

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>On one hand, you describe yourself as frugal very you know,

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>get imitation jewelry. You don't go crazy on things that

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 1>other people splurge on. On the other hand, you're the

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>most generous tipper of anybody I've ever met. You will

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>leave a thousand dollars tips on bills of less than

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollars.

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Why do you do that?

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 3>I just.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 4>It's my version of always giving it back. Especially in

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 4>the service industry, you know they need it. I have

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 4>a great understanding of what they go through. Always had

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 4>that understanding. So this is something that I've always been doing,

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 4>even before social media came. When I was in Cincinnati.

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 4>People gonna test to be tipping in that manner, and

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 4>it's something I've been doing the past twenty some years.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 4>Anytime I go out to eat, I just want to

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 4>make sure I have no idea how your day's going,

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 4>But I noticed like dealing with multiple personallets, attitudes, having

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 4>a bad day and really nobody give me your break.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 3>So any I always want to be that shining.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 4>Like for people in the service industry, if you know,

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:30.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm coming in from traveling and just always making sure

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 4>their day is okay, no matter what, no matter who

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 4>they had to wait on throughout that day.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>It gets back to what Mike Brown said, you make

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>people smile.

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to.

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.879
<v Speaker 4>If I could just it'd be even better if at

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 4>some way, shape or form of fashion, I get lucky

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 4>and end up with like Zuckerberg or Jeff Bezos or

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk type money, those thousand dollar tips, I would

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 4>add a zero.

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 3>So then you know that's that's the way I think.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, you know what I mean.

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, I mean, we'll see what happened from my mouth.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 4>At God's ears, all tips would be ten thousand from

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 4>now on.

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Recently, your daughter Shielle committed to the University of Kentucky

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to run track, which is awesome. She has won multiple

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Junior Olympic championships. Is your daughter going to be an Olympian?

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 4>I hope so, I hope so, And it's all on her,

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's all on her.

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 3>It's about putting the work. She knows I mean to

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:27.919
<v Speaker 3>get to this point.

0:46:28.120 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 4>You know what it took to get to this point.

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 4>You gotta put in the work. Again, It's not where

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<v Speaker 4>you go, it's what you do once you get there.

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<v Speaker 4>They get my kids to get the same message that

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.759
<v Speaker 4>I tell everyone else. You know, you have to put

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<v Speaker 4>the work in, and you put in the work, you

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 4>put the time, and it's going to show up. There

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 4>was also going to show up regardless, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>How does watching your kids compete in sports compared to

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<v Speaker 1>doing it yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it a lot. I like

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<v Speaker 3>it a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>But I still work out in train with all of

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.439
<v Speaker 4>them in their respective crafts to make sure they can't

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<v Speaker 4>beat me. That's that's the scary part. So I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>very active. Since I have stopped playing. I try to

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 4>train with my son. I train with my daughter. When

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.280
<v Speaker 4>it comes to track, I do all the drill she does,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 4>and I make sure I'm always on points. So if

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 4>at any point I need to show how it should

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 4>be done or how it should look, I'm still in

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 4>elite shape to be able to do so. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just me talking it. I can actually walk it too.

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<v Speaker 4>On what it should look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Most physically fit forty five year old man in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five fifty five year old man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's that's how.

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<v Speaker 1>Fit you are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hey, listen, I call it the wear and tear

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 4>from the from the from the NFL. It aasts ten

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:51.400
<v Speaker 4>years on the body, even though I had no injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, A few questions about the current Bengals. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you admire and respect about Joe Burrow?

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<v Speaker 4>His ability to stay calm under pressure. He's always I

0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 4>think that's obviously the name Joe Cool is. It's therefore

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 4>a reason he's always cool under pressure. And how most

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<v Speaker 4>of the time for a quarterback that's young. When you content,

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 4>when you consistently get hit, you get rattled. It's just

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:21.760
<v Speaker 4>it's just the nature of the besis. You get rattled

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 4>and for some reason, I don't know who, or or

0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 4>or where it came about. Usually over time with repetition

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:31.479
<v Speaker 4>at the highest level, then you become cool and calm

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 4>under pressure. But he came out the gate just that way,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he's the reason for you know, their success.

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Higgins or Boyd or excuse me, Chase Higgins and

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Boyd or Johnson, Hushman, Zada and Henry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>good one. I'm gonna have.

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to go with us, even though I

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 4>have an appreciation for all three of those dudes. Man,

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.959
<v Speaker 4>Chase is special, Higgins obviously a special and Tyler Boyd

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.760
<v Speaker 4>is misterconsistency, you know, throughout the years. But I obviously

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:03.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to go with us. You know, Chris

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 4>was special. Chris was special.

0:49:06.440 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 3>And TJ.

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 4>TJ can do it all. He can do everything under

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<v Speaker 4>the sun, short Entermedya, he can go along, he can

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 4>beat you underneath, I mean just all around. And then

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 4>obviously myself was just just pure entertainment.

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:23.320
<v Speaker 3>But I don't have to go with us regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, A couple more questions for you. You spent

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<v Speaker 1>ten years in Cincinnati. You're still the all time franchise

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>leader in catches, receiving yards, touchdown catches. What do you

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>think is your Bengals legacy? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I would I would. I would say making it

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<v Speaker 3>fun and entertaining.

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 4>And then the funny thing about it is I made

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:49.240
<v Speaker 4>it so fun and entertaining with what most were called antics.

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't think people even realize how really good I was.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that they do.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 4>I think outside of the game, like because I made

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 4>so much noise in other areas, I don't think people

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 4>understand how good I really was.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as like.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:07.839
<v Speaker 4>If you if you break it down and think about it,

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.239
<v Speaker 4>to be able to talk trash through the week and

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.439
<v Speaker 4>then still go out there and execute, knowing everyone trying

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.680
<v Speaker 4>to knock your head off, to have a have a

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.400
<v Speaker 4>list of dvs in your locker before the season starts,

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 4>and still go out week the week and beat everybody.

0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't. I don't think people understand.

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 4>To lead the AFC and receiving yards what four years

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<v Speaker 4>in a row, while all while entertaining and talking trash

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:36.439
<v Speaker 4>week three, I don't. I don't think people understand how

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 4>difficult I made the game. And remember the climate that

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 4>in the era I played in, defensively, remember the division

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm in defensively, it's it's it's it was very difficult.

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Like a lot of people play Madden, the video game Madden,

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 4>and its hardest feature is being as playing it on

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 4>all Madden All Madden's very difficult. I always love to

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 4>say I played the game of football, and if feel

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 4>on old man because I made it that much more.

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Difficult and was able to get away with it.

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, yeah, yeah, I like a degree of difficulty.

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I needed it.

0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 4>I needed because if I didn't force the difficulty on myself,

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:20.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I would have performed to the best

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<v Speaker 4>of my ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Final thing, and I'll let you go. Last year, when

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Willie Anderson joined the Ring of Honor, several of his

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:30.319
<v Speaker 1>former teammates made it back to Cincinnati to be there

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:34.160
<v Speaker 1>for the celebration. If possible, Who are a few guys

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>that you would really like to attend your Ring of

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Honor ceremony?

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 3>All of them? All of them?

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<v Speaker 4>But I definitely want who's there. I definitely need Big

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Willie because Big Willy and I have some some great

0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.279
<v Speaker 4>memories of me bothering the defensive lineman and will you

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 4>telling me to shut up and huddle.

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 3>We gotta we got to bring those memories up.

0:51:53.960 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 4>And Carson TJ, Big Willie, who else man the DB's

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<v Speaker 4>Roddneny Heath Tory, James delt O'Neil. Some of those dudes

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.200
<v Speaker 4>that I battle with, you know, throughout those days.

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean just it's meaning as possible, it's meani as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>But those three, you know, Big Willie, TJ and Carson,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be it would be a joy to see

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<v Speaker 4>them there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say to others on a daily basis, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you, I love you. Congratulations on this well deserved honor.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for ten magnificent seasons in Cincinnati. Thank you

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for making it fun and for making Cincinnati cool. You'll

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>always have a place in our heart.

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, appreciate it.

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