1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to a Thursday edition of Texans All 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: John Harris on this Thursday evening. We're gonna have plenty 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: from John McLean later in the show. And I've in 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: being in radio, and I've been in radio since two 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: thousand and seven. There have been moments in radio where 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world takes such a precedent 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: to what is going on in our little football universe, 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. And what's happening now with 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: coronavirus COVID nineteen has just completely and totally dominated people's thoughts, 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: dominated their lives. Things have been changing at a completely 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and totally rapid rate. And it really got accelerated on 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday night when the Utah Jazz playing Yoklhoma City Thunder 14 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: and right before it was about to tip off, somebody 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: ran on the court grab the officials. Don't start this game. 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Do not start this game, And all of a sudden, 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: before you know, Oklahoma City PA announcer is telling everybody's stands, 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: you gotta go home. We're canceling this game. Gonna find 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: out Rudy Gobert the shot blocking Frenchman was found to 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: have contracted coronavirus COVID nineteen and so the Jazz were quarantined. 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: They did tests on the Jazz team, everybody in the 22 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Jazz traveling party. They canceled that game. Shortly thereafter, the 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: NBA suspended the season. We found out that Tom Hanks 24 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: was in Australia. He posted on Instagram that he and 25 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: his wife they contracted coronavirus and they were going through 26 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the quarantine process. And this thing was just I guess 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the reaction to it was probably spreading about as fast 28 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: as the illness has. Travel to and from the United 29 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: States for a non United States citizens was shut down. 30 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: My except to the UK. My brother and sister law 31 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: moved to the UK about three months ago and they 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: had planned to be there for six months. They both 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: my sister in law flew back today. They got back. 34 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 1: They're getting it back tonight, I believe sometime, and then 35 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: my brother in law is coming back on Sunday. And 36 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: he is the CEO for a huge international corporation, so 37 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: which is while they moved to London in the first place. 38 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: So there's just so much going on. Obviously, the country 39 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Italy is just shut down. But in our little sports world, 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: seeing that the NBA had suspended its season, and there 41 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: were college basketball tournaments going on, and tournaments right before 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: the tip off on Thursday in the morning, games were 43 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: about to start, teams were pulled off the court. That 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: tournament shut down, the Big Twelve, the ACC was shut down, 45 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: the AAC University of Houston's conference shut down. You had 46 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: the Big East, actually started a game, got the halftime, 47 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: and then they shut that game down and the rest 48 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: of it down. Then the nc double A stepped in, 49 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: no March Madness, men's and women's tournaments shut down, canceled, 50 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: not even postponed, canceled, all springs sports, NCUBLEA cut them down. 51 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: So it's been a pretty pretty wild twenty four hours, 52 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: to say the least. I thought yesterday when I got 53 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: into building yesterday. And for those who don't know, I've 54 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: been doing the six to ten painted pender Gass Show. 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: I have been Pendergass because Sean has been on his honeymoon. 56 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: Sean's honeymoon, you're supposed to go to Italy, and they 57 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: luckily made that change to get out to California. And 58 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: I think they've been you know, up and down northern 59 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: southern California, and they'll be back next week. But I've 60 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: been doing the six am to ten am show with 61 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Seth and I got in the building. So I left 62 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten about ten. It doesn't take too 63 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: long to get here, but I got here. I don't 64 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: know but ten thirty maybe after take care a few 65 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: things coming over here. And I get into building and 66 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: I've looked down. I got a text from Drew Rodeo 67 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: is shutting down. And that was I mean, that was 68 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: like whoa. Okay that that was kind of the start 69 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: for us locally that man, this thing is boy. And 70 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: then you start seeing the various things, Okay, this is 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: being considered. Schools are considering closing now that all these 72 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: different things are, you know, considering, Hey, there's a new 73 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: case here. I found out today there's a new case 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: up in Montgomery County. All this is going on. But 75 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: then when the NBA suspended its season, it was like whoa. 76 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you got the Tom 77 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: Hanks information, which I think I found out that, you know, 78 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: maybe within about forty five minutes of one another. So 79 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: it's it's been sort of a wild ride. And I 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: recount all of that too, But I mean, we've been 81 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: talking about it so much. We talked to something I 82 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: talked about it. We tried to squeeze in some sports. 83 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: This is Texans All Access. We're gonna try and give 84 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you as much about the Texans, especially when we have 85 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: a guy like John McClaine joining the show, and John's 86 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna join us and we're gonna talk about Jonathan Joseph, 87 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about the signing of DeAndre Carter and those 88 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: things going on. We just kind of felt like, look, 89 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: this is and we know its place. We understand we've 90 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: been through this before where we've had whether it's a 91 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: weather tragedy or you know, some of the things that 92 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: go on. We've tried to Mark and I have always 93 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: tried to give this show as hey, man, if we 94 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: can kind of take your mind off it talking a 95 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: little bit of Texans, talking a little bit of NFL, 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: then we're gonna we're gonna try our best. The reality 97 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: of the situation is that there's nothing more important than 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: the people's health anywhere, everywhere, and we know nothing supersedes that, 99 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we are very cognizant of. But we 100 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: also obviously have a job to do, and that's to 101 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: talk about the NFL and talk about football and talk 102 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: about what we know, so we understand as best we 103 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: possibly can what people are going throughout there. We also 104 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: know there's some people that are like, dude, just talk 105 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: to football, jo, I just want to hear you talk football. 106 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: Please do that, So we will try and do that. 107 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: A couple of things that go kind of in conjunction 108 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: with this coronavirus outbreak, the Texans response to it, similarly 109 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: to a lot of things that have been done throughout 110 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. The Texans coaches, staff, business ops people, They're 111 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: taking them off the road. Obviously, how this impacts pro 112 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: days and scouting and such, and we've seen a lot 113 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: of pro days canceled. I know Clemson, I think Clemson 114 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: was to day. The days are running together. I think 115 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: Clemson's Pro day was today. It could have been yesterday. 116 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. They're all kind of running together, but 117 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I know Clemson had a pro day. Oklahoma there's yesterday. 118 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: But Michigan Penn State both shut their pro days down. 119 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: A lot of them shutting athletic events down. So scouts, personnel, staff, 120 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: football ops coming off the road coming back here. If 121 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: they were on the road and handling, handling their business 122 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: like that, and I think that's gonna be NFL wide. 123 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: But there have been teams throughout the day. You've seen statements, Hey, 124 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. I saw one from the 125 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Vikings earlier today and the Texans following suit. And when 126 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you start the thing. I talked about this on Sports 127 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: six ten. The work that's done on these prospects is 128 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: done so far in advance. Our college scouts are out 129 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: there in July and August talking to teams, looking at players, 130 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: studying players, so they've been on top of this. I 131 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: don't worry too much about it. We'll see how this 132 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: impacts the draft. But that from a Texans perspective. One 133 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: massive thing. The other one that goes with this is 134 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: that the NFL's NFL's Owners meetings, and they've got two 135 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: sets toed. They're gonna have one in March that has 136 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: been canceled, that was gonna be down in West Palm 137 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Beach that has been canceled. The one that is going 138 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: to be out Marina del Rey in May middle of 139 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: the end of May. That one will stay. So basically 140 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: the agenda moves from the March meeting to the May meeting, 141 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: and that will stay for now. See how that goes, 142 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: but that will stay for now. So Texans, like everybody else, 143 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: getting everybody off the road, thinking about everybody's health. At 144 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: this point in the NFL owners meetings are being taken 145 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: being taken away unfortunately from West Palm Beach due to 146 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: everything that has gone on, and it's understandable they can 147 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: move those things. They would like to get it done 148 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: in March. It's very relaxed setting. It's good to get 149 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: everybody together down there at the owners meetings and get 150 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: the Rules Committee to vote on certain things. But where 151 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: we are in the ward, if you will, probably the 152 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: smartest thing to do at that point. The draft stays 153 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: on for now, but we'll attack that one down the road. 154 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: We'll see how we attack this virus as a nation 155 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: to see. I would imagine that over the next few days, 156 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: things may get worse, make it better, they may just 157 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: stay the same. We'll see. I mean, it's been so crazy, 158 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: things have been changing so incredibly rapidly. But that's pretty 159 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: much the news as it pertains to the virus itself. 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: One good piece of news came out today as well, 161 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: and that is that the Texans are tendering a restrictive 162 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: free agent offer to Dylan Cole. And Dylan's one of 163 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: my He's one of my I love watching this guy. 164 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: He was a guy that I studied a few years 165 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: ago heading into the twenty seventeen draft, and I was shocked, 166 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: shocked when he was not drafted. I thought, they think 167 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: he's too short. He was not slow, he was not small. 168 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean he was a stout guy, but he was short. 169 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean he is short. He's a shorter guy, but man, 170 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: he can play. The unfortunate thing for him had been injuries. 171 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: Injuries have really just slowed his career. He had the 172 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: risk last year, he ended up having the knee injury 173 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: this year, and I think we missed him. I think 174 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: we missed him on special teams and opportunities to come 175 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: into the game and passing situations and helping coverage for 176 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: sub units. So we I think we missed Dylan Cole 177 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: and he will be back tendering an offer to him, 178 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: which that's great news. We signed over the last few 179 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: days three players, Darren Fells, Kemmy Fair, Baron, and DeAndre Carter, 180 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: and now we tended an offer to Dylan Cole. So 181 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: when Drew asked me that question to the over under, 182 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I think he put it at eight. I'm counting Cole. 183 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm counting Cole, so that counts, I said over. So 184 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: we're moving in that particular direction now, as far as 185 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: free agency goes in the franchise tag and all those 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of things, obviously, intendering an offer to Dylan Cole. 187 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: There is football operation going on now. How much of 188 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: that continues, what they do with the new league gear, 189 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: is it gonna start next week? How are they gonna 190 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: go about that? If there are changes. Obviously we're gonna 191 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: update it because it's going to impact our team, our organization, 192 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: the players throughout the league, and the players that can 193 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: potentially be coming to Houston. So we'll see what the 194 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: environment is over the next over the next few days, 195 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and see what ends up happening as 196 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: we get into the new league year next week. The 197 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: tampering period was supposed to start on Monday, the new 198 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: league gear, I believe Thursday. I think Thursday. I think 199 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: it's Thursday. But either way, those things I'm not gonna 200 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: tell you they're on hold. I just we don't have 201 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: information as it pertains to that at this point, so 202 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Texans taking their personnel off the road. Similarly to the 203 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: teams throughout the league, NFL owners meetings, they are they 204 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: are shut down in addition to any number of things 205 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: that are going on, including the hub A tournament both 206 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: men's and women's, all the conference tournaments, college sports for 207 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: the spring. It's not just the IVY League. The IVY 208 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: League shut down the god their basketball tournament and then 209 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: also their spring sports. They did that a few days ago, 210 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, ah, hey nerds, and then all of 211 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: a sudden, every conference is of following suits. So a 212 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: lot of things going on. I know people have asked, man, 213 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: what are sports talk show hosts are gonna talk about? 214 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean I feel for them. At least 215 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: on this show we talk a lot of NFL. This 216 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: is what we talk all year long, and we can 217 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: all we could always talk draft prospects and free agents 218 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: and those things. Just don't know at this point if 219 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: it's and when it's gonna happen, if it changes. I mean, 220 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: obviously we know the schedule. Next week you can start tampering, 221 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: then you can start signing, But is that gonna go 222 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: on as scheduled. We'll kind of plan as such and 223 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: talk about those free agents and talk about things that 224 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: are going on. And we will do that with the 225 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: Venerable Sean McClain next. It Thursday night, that's his night. 226 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: We can't short change the general at all. And I 227 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: had a chance to sit down with him and we'll 228 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: have that for you next on Texans All Access. Welcome 229 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: back to a Thursday night edition of Texans All Access 230 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris. 231 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: The world obviously is going through a massive undertaking with 232 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: the various cancelations and postponements of just life in general, 233 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, whether you're in Italy, China, 234 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: whether you're in the United States, it's somewhere state of 235 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Ohio where apparently one percent of the population has apparently 236 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: contracted coronavirus. Man, it's it's really changing everything for us. 237 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: But we got a show to do talking about the 238 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Texans and talking about the NFL, and on a Thursday evening. 239 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: That means that I get the opportunity only about two 240 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: or three times a year to do this, but I 241 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: love it, nonetheless to sit down with the General the 242 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle John McClain, John, how you doing, my man? 243 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm great, John, How are you? I'm doing well. But 244 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you and I get the 245 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: shut Mark out when he's on vacation and sit down 246 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: and talk some ball. I love to do it. We 247 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: were on sports Radio six ten yesterday morning. I thought 248 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: that was very cool being on with you and Seth 249 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Payin and and especially being on with you at this 250 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: time of year with free agency about to starting a 251 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: draft around the corner. A great time a year to 252 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: talk ball. It is definitely time to talk ball. And John, 253 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: We've got Texans news to start off the day, and 254 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: it comes courtesy well of the Houston Texans and Jonathan Joseph. 255 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: We saw Jjoe at the end of the year, banged 256 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: up a little bit, did get himself active for the 257 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: Chiefs game, but he didn't play in that Chiefs playoff game. 258 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: It was announced that he and the team mutually agree 259 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: that Jonathan will move on into free agency. John, just 260 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: your initial thoughts about that move. We'll talk about j 261 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Joe the player and what he meant this organization a 262 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: little bit, but what about just this transaction surprise. Not 263 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: surprised is one. Are your overall feelings when you heard 264 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: that news. I'm not surprised at all. I knew j 265 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Joe was gone. He wasn't playing much down the stretch, 266 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: he said. Right after the last game, he told us 267 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: in the dressing room he definitely wanted to keep playing. 268 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: He'll be thirty six years old in April. It's his 269 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: fifteenth season. If he plays another season, and I feel 270 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: confident that once his career is over, whether it's now 271 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: our next or Bill O'Brien will try to bring him 272 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: back into the organization as he's done without Andre Johnson, 273 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: t J. Yates, Bryan Cushing came Dent because Bill likes 274 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: to have the former players on the staff, and j 275 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Joe whether it was on the coaching staff or a 276 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: player relations of the front office. I think he'd be 277 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: outstanding because he's the best free agent signing in history. 278 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. In two thousand and eleven, the Texans 279 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: were coming off a terrible season. Defensively, secondary was the 280 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: worst in the league. General manager Rick Smith was trying 281 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: to get Nambia as Mwaw who was leaving Oakland, and 282 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: everybody said he's the best corner in football, and he 283 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: was also negotiating with Jonathan Joseph and he needed his safety. 284 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Daniel Manning was out there, so they asked him why. 285 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: The negotiations came down to the Eagles and the Texans 286 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: and had to make a decision signed Jonathan Joseph and 287 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: Daniel Manning or stay in the sweepstakes for Aismwa and 288 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: maybe losing him to the Eagles. So he pulled out 289 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: and signed Joseph and Manning. They helped along with the 290 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: addition of defensive lineman named wat Karl Farmwood coming back 291 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: from an injury, and all of a sudden, they had 292 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL and won 293 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: the division for the first time. And then Aisenwa goes 294 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: to Philly and bombs out. Now he's an actor on 295 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Broadway getting rave reviews, and what a great move. Of 296 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: all the players. I've covered Jonathan in my forty five 297 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: years at the Chronicle in three and a half years 298 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the Waco Tribune Earral, I've never known anybody I like 299 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: more than j Joe. A pure, pure class act who 300 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: is a great leader, and I'm assuming several teams will 301 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: try to get him to work for them, and I 302 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: just told he'll come back to the Texan. I know 303 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: he turned down the Raiders last year or two years 304 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: ago for more money because he liked the Texans. He 305 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: liked living in Houston, they liked where they live in Memorials. 306 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: Kids are happy. So I hope Jonathan comes back here 307 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: because he has always just been a pleasure to deal with. 308 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, John, it's interesting that you say that because 309 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: of all the media members that are in this town. 310 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Obviously you've been here covering to Texans from the beginning, 311 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: cover to oilers, etc. There's so many people covering this 312 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: team now and I don't think you would find any 313 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: one of them that would have a cross word to 314 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: say about j J. Nobody, nobody on a team, no coach, everybody. Jonathan. 315 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: It's amazing to me. He's about six foot, weighs about 316 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, one eighty five, one ninety and I think 317 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: about playing fourteen years in this league, especially today, covering 318 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: some of these monster receivers. And when Jonathan came out 319 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: out of college, he ran in the four to three 320 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: and not many corners play as long as he did. 321 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: That's why Darryl Green, playing twenty years was amazing. It's 322 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: a minor miracle. And so I can't say enough good 323 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: things about him as a person. As a player, eight 324 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: touchdowns in his career and I think it's been an 325 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable career for him. And if he wants to keep playing, 326 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I hope he does. Yeah, it's funny because I've said this, oh, 327 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, to numerous people. I remember talking to 328 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Jog Johnson about this, who is now coaching with Indianapolis Colts, 329 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: and Jod was trying to figure out this about two 330 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: three years ago. He's trying to figure out, like do 331 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: I keep playing? Do I keep trying to play? And 332 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: Rod was a younger guy in twenty six, twenty seven 333 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: at the time. He's a younger guy and he's trying 334 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: to figure out. I said, look, this is the kind 335 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: of game that you don't go play tackle football pickup 336 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: games out and you know, uh, you know, a memorial mark. 337 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: When you're done with this game, you're done. So if 338 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you still have got something in the tank and you 339 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: still have a love for it, go for it, Go 340 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: do it. And I think that's I mean, if Jjoe 341 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: over asked my advice, that would be it. If you 342 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: feel like you can still play and you want to 343 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: still play when you've played in this league for fourteen years, 344 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: your body's gone through god knows what, but you feel 345 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: like you could still play. Man take a shot. Andre 346 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: Johnson decided to do that with the Cults for a year, 347 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: and then when he got to Tennessee, got to about 348 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: week three or week four, and he realized, I'm just 349 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm ready to I'm ready to hang it up. 350 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: And maybe we'll get to that point with Jjoe. Maybe 351 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: he you know, we'll have some sooners. Maybe he won't. 352 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. But if he can still play, keep 353 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: keep playing until they have to peel you off that field. 354 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: As long as the love is there, do it. Terence 355 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: him and played until he was thirty eight. That's right, 356 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: that's right. And Terrence Knew was one of his teammates. 357 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: If I remember, Micol Adams just played him many sixteen years. 358 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: He was thirty eight and he just retired him the Texans. 359 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: Mike Adams. I was glad he was here for a year. 360 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: John I know there will be a lot of plays 361 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: from the Buffalo game that we all remember, but there 362 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: will be a few that I remember. Mike Adams making 363 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: in that game that will go It'll probably they'll go 364 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: under the radar, thankfully. Jj and his press comment he 365 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: talked about Mike making one or two of those plays. 366 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: But all the years him being with the Colts and 367 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: coming in here with the Colts teams and beating the 368 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Texans and then coming in here with the Texans, he was. 369 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: I can imagine that defensive back room last year with 370 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: Jjoe and with Mike Adams and the wisdom that they 371 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: can impart with Jililla die back there. They had some 372 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: serious wisdom that they could impart. So let's talk about 373 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: we had thirty years of NFL experience combined. Yeah, it's amazing, 374 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: and so let's talk about that room now. The on 375 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: the field aspect of things we know under contract heading 376 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: into the new league. Gear. We know Lonnie Johnson, we 377 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: know Garant Conley, we know those two at corner. Bradley Roby. 378 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: That's a guy. We'll talk about that in just a second. 379 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: Guy that is a free agent. Would love to see 380 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: him come back. But he missed about six games this year, 381 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: but when he was on the field, there were times 382 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: where he was just flat out brilliant. Would love to 383 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: bring him back. We've probably talked about this on air 384 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: off air about what they end up doing at the 385 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: corner position. Now, no no j Joe to add to 386 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: that mix. But you've got those guys that mentioned Lonnie Johnson, 387 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: garry On Conley, maybe Bradley Roby if you be able 388 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: to bring him back in free agency. How do you 389 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: think the Texans attack this thing over the next week 390 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: as we move on to a league, new league year. 391 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna resign Roby and that means they 392 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: don't have to go sign another veteran corner. I still 393 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: think they'llu is one of their high pigs. They got 394 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: a two to three and two fours on a corner, 395 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think they're gonna bring back 396 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves. I'm not sure, but he's sure l a lot, yeah, 397 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: and he's he's gonna be unrestricted. But I'm not sure 398 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: how they feel about him, but I know how they 399 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: feel about Roby and the fact that Roby can play 400 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: inside and outside that makes him more valuable. You know, 401 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: you don't want your guys hitting the open market because 402 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: there's teams out there with a lot of money to 403 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: spend and it's like DJ Reader. If Reader hits the market, 404 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I think he's gone. I think if Roby hits it, 405 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: I think he's gone. But Bill O'Brien, Jack easter By, 406 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: and Kevin Krokovic are working really hard to try to 407 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: keep their guys. First, I thought it was good they 408 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: got the specialist all done. Darren fails. Now the tight 409 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: ends not an issue at all, and they can turn 410 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: their attention to those two. I believe Carlos had is gone. 411 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: So the two most important Reader and Roby, and I 412 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: was asking on sports Radio six ten who was more important. Well, 413 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: a corner is always going to trump an those tackle. 414 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: The way the NFL is played today, the high paid 415 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: guys are the pass rushers and the corners on defense. 416 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Whether those pass rushers are three four outside linebackers, defensive hands, 417 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: or that rarity an inside guy who can get the quarterback. 418 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: If you got one of those man, you gotta lock 419 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: him up. That's that's become like the unicorn in football, 420 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: the interior pass rusher. Because I was kind of talking 421 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: about this with Drew the other day off the air, 422 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: because we were talking about that. So you got Chris 423 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: Jones with the Chiefs well, I would imagine he's getting 424 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: a franchise. You got Aaron Donald, and so you got 425 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: Jones and Donald. And then after that you're like, Okay, 426 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox does a good job with Philly, but it's 427 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: not like he's piling up Donald sack numbers or Jones 428 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: sack numbers. But he's a really really good player with 429 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: the Eagles. And then you kind of go down to 430 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: list and you're like, it's a short list. You have 431 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: an interior pass rusher that creates havoc from in there. Now, JJ, 432 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: he's a guy that can do it from all over, 433 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: but early in his career he'd do it from He 434 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: likes to be outside, so he kind of goes inside outside. 435 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: That's why when I was doing a film room the 436 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: other day, John and I looked at the sack that 437 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: Charles A men Who has against the Chiefs, and you 438 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: look at that front four and it's outside of Whitney 439 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: Merciless Jacob Martin and the inside is JJ Watt and 440 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: Charles a Mena Who and I point out the screen 441 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: and I told our producer, I was like that right there, 442 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: that's where you need to get to on third down. 443 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: If those four can get on the field on third down, 444 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: somebody can get to the quarterback. Now do you have 445 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: all those guys for all sixteen games? You'd like to 446 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: be able to feel that. I think that could happen, 447 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna have that. So you've got to 448 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: obviously have depth, and you also got to have Charles 449 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: a men who step up in a second year. I 450 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: think this is a massive year for Charles to step 451 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: up and help that pass rushing. Those are all big alps. 452 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: That's why they need to get a pass rusher hide 453 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: in the draft or a free agency. Remember the guy 454 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: was it who was a guy from Buffalo, Jordan Phillips. 455 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips who signed and had nine and a half 456 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: sacks and never come close to anything like that. Ye 457 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: and and of course Jack Barrett yea, my goodness, what 458 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: he'd never come close in Denver five or six a 459 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: year than he leads the league with nineteen. Texas need 460 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: to get lucky with somebody like that, whether it's outside inside. 461 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like one of their priorities and this 462 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: is not counting replacing DJ Raider fee Leaves and those 463 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: tackle which will be a priority too, but somebody who 464 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: can get that inside push even when they throw on 465 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: running down right exactly, you'll first attend you put your 466 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: you put your bass. I say that air quotes, you're 467 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: base shooting out there, and yet it's play action pass. 468 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: Can that guy get to the quarterback? I know, I 469 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about. And so you take 470 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Charles Amna who hey, Charles, can you play the run 471 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: and then adjust to go get the go, get the 472 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: quarterback playing inside, because Charles will play outside on some 473 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: rundowns and they bump inside of pass downs. That's the 474 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: optimum situation. If you're not slowing teams down against the run, 475 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: then obviously they can stay in run pass dual sets, 476 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: and that obviously can be difficult for you. But you're right, 477 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: there are some there's some things that they need to 478 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: do on the defensive side of the ball. But on Tuesday, 479 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, they signed Darren Fells. 480 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: And I've seen some people opine on Twitter, in the 481 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: social media, what good deal, bad deal, all that kind 482 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: of stuff. I cannot come around and anybody saying it's 483 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: a bad deal. I think it's a fantastic thing. A 484 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: bad deal, Well, I don't know. I couldn't think money 485 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: to spend it, so why not spend it? And it's 486 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: really not a big massive deal deal. It's for god, 487 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be thirty four years old, who's a massive 488 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: red zone target, who Deshaun Watson loves, who just set 489 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: a team record for touchdowns for tight ends? How could 490 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: anybody complain about what he got, which is good for 491 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: a player his age, but his you know, tip money 492 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: for a lot of players. I don't know why anybody 493 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: could complain about that deal. Well the complaint, if you will, was, 494 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: isn't that too much for a thirty four year old 495 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: tight end? I'm like it's reported it's two years, seven 496 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. If they given him that last year when 497 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: they didn't know what he could do, and you might go, 498 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: they overpaid for the guy. And if you don't bring 499 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: him back, they don't know what they have in Collie 500 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Wearing and Jordan Nakins looked really good, but he's not 501 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: a traditional tight end. I thought Jordan Thomas was a disappointment. 502 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna really take off after having 503 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: those four touchdown catches. I thought Jordan Thomas would do 504 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: what Jordan fell. I mean, what Darren Fells did give 505 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: watching a big red zone target. Now he's got a 506 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: lot of proving to do so now they don't when 507 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: it comes to needing players. They don't even need to 508 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: think about tight ends, right, So I thought that was 509 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: a trip terrific deal. Like you, and at that money, 510 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: I look at it and go this. I'm not gonna 511 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: say anything in NFL's chump chains at all because I 512 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: know people out there go, well, I make X. Well, Okay, 513 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: look it's professional football, professional sports. It's a little different world. 514 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: We'll try and eject yourself in. Unless you can run 515 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: a four three and cover anybody in the league and 516 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: play corner, you're not going to see that kind of money. 517 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's monopoly money to people out there, But 518 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: even at that point, it's a lot lower monopoly money 519 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: to me. It's a seven million dollars over two years, 520 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: seven million dollars insurance policy. If Collie Waren doesn't work 521 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: out or he gets injured again, if Jordan Thomas gets 522 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: banged up or doesn't get it in year three, Darren 523 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: Fells becomes a really inexpensive insurance policy if those guys 524 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: don't work out, and he's pretty damn good to boot. Yeah, 525 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: that's the other thing. He can still play. Another thing 526 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: not to underestimate is how you know when you hear 527 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien talking about players. First thing he talks about 528 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: good teammate. Darren Fells is the epitome of a good 529 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: teammate and so he fits in well. And when you 530 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: have young tight ends like Aikens and Thomas and Wearing, 531 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: you need a guy like that in the team meeting room. Absolutely, 532 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: and they can bounce things off of him. He'll see 533 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: things at practice they won't say. So his value to 534 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: the Texans extends beyond what people see on the playing field. 535 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Will we get back, we'll talk about the other signing, 536 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: the third one that took place this week, and we 537 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: announced it yesterday, and that is DeAndre Carters coming back, 538 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: and how does that fit amongst the receiver crew, and 539 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: we take sort of a positional outlook on the receivers 540 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and beyond. We'll do that next right 541 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. We got one final statement 542 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: to this Thursday edition of Texans All Access from the 543 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris. It 544 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: has been a crazy seventy two hours, and it might 545 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: be even crazier the next seventy two hours. But we're 546 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna keep charging along talking about Texans in the NFL 547 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: and bringing you news when it suffices. This afternoon was 548 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. Instable A tournament, Men Who Win, canceled college 549 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: World Series, canceled conference tournaments, canceled NHL season, canceled last night, 550 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: NBA season, canceled school districts, extending spring breaks, or Ohio 551 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: sending the kids home until April third. Hopefully they we 552 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: can do that, we can start heading down a road 553 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: of recovery and start getting things back on track, getting 554 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: people healthy, hopefully with everything that's gone on with COVID 555 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: nineteen aka coronavirus. But we're gonna keep charging along here 556 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access, and I have the General with 557 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: me and the news of DeAndre Carter coming back to 558 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: the team, and I know that people the last thing 559 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: they remember about DeAndre Carter the funnel of the playoff game. 560 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Over the last couple of years, I've seen DeAndre Carter 561 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: do a lot of really good things for this team, 562 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: and so I hate the fact that's the memory because 563 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: of the last game. It was a big play in 564 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: that game that people remember. Andre Carter has been a 565 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: really good a good player on his team. You go 566 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: back to the words John said a little while ago 567 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: with Darren Fields, a good teammate, does anything in the 568 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver crew he's asked to do. And I thought 569 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: he made one of the more underrated plays of the 570 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: entire season when we went to Tampa Bay twenty to 571 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: twenty and the fourth quarter, third to six and they 572 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: try to cover DeAndre Carter down the scene with a linebacker. 573 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: DeShawn found him thirty nine yard pass set up the 574 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: go ahead field goal, which ended up being a game 575 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: winning field goal. DeAndre Carter made that play. He made 576 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: a huge play against the Jets in twenty eighteen on 577 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: a Saturday game, a fifty yard game when the offense 578 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: was really struggling. John, they bring back DeAndre Carter. Maybe 579 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm a little higher on DeAndre Carter than others just 580 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: because I know what he's been through to get to 581 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: this point. I see him in the building every day 582 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: and how hard he works at this. So maybe I'm 583 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: a little higher on him than some people might be 584 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: when they hear that news. But DeAndre Carter coming back, 585 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to apply as much as I did. 586 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: But one are your thoughts about him resigning with the Texans. 587 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: He's a good backup person. He's the backup slot receiver. 588 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: And the way the NFL has played today, returners have 589 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: been neutered. You know, he averaged nine yards of return 590 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: and that was among the league leaders on point returns, 591 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: and his kickoff returns were among the league leaders, and 592 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: yet neither one was spectacular. He was never a threat 593 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: to break a big one. But you don't see many 594 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: returners anymore who can impact feel position because the way 595 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: the game is being played and especially the way the 596 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: rules are, so I think they're not gonna go out 597 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: and try to find another returner. Carters. He doesn't say 598 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't fumble. That was on point returns. He did 599 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: on the kickoff return. But he's solid. Yeah, that's I 600 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: think that's a great way of putting it. He saw it. 601 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: And you can't have forty six man game day roster 602 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: that's all superstars. It's it's a cap league. You're not 603 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do that. You got to have 604 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: guys that do dirty work, that know every single position 605 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: on the field, that are trustworthy. Everything that they do, 606 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to rely on and I think 607 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: that's what you have with DeAndre Carter. I'll think it's 608 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: any question that if Keiki qt had emerged in his 609 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: second season like we thought he would after he flashed 610 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: as a rookie, you know, if the Texans were cut 611 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: him tomorrow, the Colts would be all over him because 612 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: he looked like a Pro Bowl player and a one 613 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: regular season game in the playoff games against the Colts, 614 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 1: so they haven't given up on him. But if they 615 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: knew going into this season they could count on him 616 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: to be the fourth receiver and the backup in the slot, 617 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: then they would maybe DeAndre Carter becomes expendable. But based 618 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: on what he saw last year, Qt's got a lot 619 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: of making up to do, and it would be great 620 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: if he could bounce back in his third year. You know, 621 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: if guys, most of those guys make their biggest improvement 622 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: between their first and second season, but there were guys 623 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: who have to take a third season if they don't 624 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: get it by the fourth season. That's why the average 625 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: careers like three and a half years, right and they're gone. 626 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: But that would be really important. If you could have 627 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: QT and Carter ready to come off the bench and 628 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: make some plays. Yeah, no doubt. And of course in 629 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: this receiver crew, I don't have to tell anybody. I 630 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: don't tell you obviously, John about the injuries that hit 631 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: that position with Will, with Kenny Kiki his first year 632 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Those injuries really set that group back 633 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: just from a consistency standpoint of Okay, who's gonna be 634 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: available this week? I mean, how many times Hey is 635 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: Will gonna be healthy this week? Is he's gonna be 636 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: active this week? I mean those are questions. Bill Brian 637 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: just gets tired of answering our press conferences, and but 638 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: we all want to know because we want to know 639 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: what offense we're gonna be able to see over this weekend. 640 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: So those guys staying healthy, all of them staying healthy, 641 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: all of them together, it ends up being a pretty 642 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: stout group. But I think you're right. I think it's 643 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: an X factor to this group is Kicky QT and 644 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: whether he can get his game back to where it 645 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: was as a rookie where we needed to see him 646 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: on the field. We were like, Okay, what's Qt. We 647 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: need Qt back, because when we got in the field 648 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: against Indianapolis the first time he played as a rookie. 649 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, Johnny had eleven catches. He's changing the game. 650 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: Will had gone onto that game at halftime, and Qt 651 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: became the guy. De Shan was looking for him in 652 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: that game because he knew he could rely on him. 653 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: So it was QT and Hopkins and ended up putting 654 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: up thirty seven points that day as a result. So 655 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to see Kiki get back in his mix. 656 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: One thing I think about those two guys, it's interesting, John, 657 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: as I've as I'm sitting down and I'm doing I mean, 658 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: all these different scouting reports for the Harris one hundred. 659 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you every single year i've done this, 660 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: I've done it for about twenty years. I would always 661 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: look for a guy, Okay, what else can this guy do? 662 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: Invariably I would find guys, Oh yeah, this guy's a 663 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: punt returner. This guy's a kick returner. He's got return skills. Okay, 664 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: that adds to his arsenal. I don't know if it's 665 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: just that those guys just aren't in this draft. But John, 666 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've written that once in a scouting report. 667 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,760 Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be able to return in the NFL, 668 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: because I'm with you, I don't know that it really 669 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: matters anymore. It's not nearly as important as a to be. 670 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: The Texans have one receiver they can come on and 671 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: as DeAndre Hopkins, Fuller steals was not hurt in his career, 672 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: and then he got nicked up last year. Was it 673 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: a hamstring? I can't even remember. And then Fuller going 674 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: into the last year of his contract. It would behoove 675 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: him to stay healthy because if he does, he'll make 676 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: a lot of money. But he has legitimate injuries as 677 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: we know, you know they don't want to have like 678 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: if they say they got rid of him, teams that 679 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: line up to get him, and he could be like 680 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson, all of a sudden he plays an injury 681 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: free season. But Fuller means way, way too much for 682 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: this team because I think it was two Sundays ago 683 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: I wrote a deal or were they ranked in every 684 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: category with Fuller and without Fuller, And it was a 685 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: drastic reduction in points in yards and passing yards and 686 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: third down. The only thing that was increased was Bill 687 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: ran the ball a whole lot more without Fuller, And 688 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: they went from like eight to third, and you know 689 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: they don't want to have to do that. They want 690 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: to throw the ball because that's the strength of the 691 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: offense because of Watson. So I think one of the 692 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: big needs would be to get another receiver in here 693 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: because Fuller and Stills are going on the last year 694 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: of their contract. And whether it's in free agency or 695 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: they use a second or third round pick on a receiver, 696 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: they've got to have another one come in here who 697 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: can line up outside. And I'll guarantee you it's gonna 698 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: have to be not even four or five guys, although 699 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: I did right at the combine, the combine and forties 700 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: of receivers like Hopkins, Mike Evans or like five of 701 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: them Michael Thomas who all ran into four or fives 702 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: and Quam Bowling, Randing forward sevens, and but they'd love 703 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: to get a guy and it's not gonna happen, but 704 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: a guy like Henry Ruggs, like Fuller, when you put 705 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: him outside, corners and safeties have to worry about it. Yeah, 706 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's backing up just a little bit because that 707 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: guy's on the field. And we see that with Will 708 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, we see that with Will. I mean, 709 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm watching the Falcons corners and safeties looking each other like, 710 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: uh oh boy. I mean it was it was so 711 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: evident how scared they were of him. The Colts too, 712 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean just talking. I was talking to Matt Taylor, 713 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: the voice of the Colts, and we were talking about 714 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: we were just talking about things, and we were talking 715 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: about the game on Thursday night, and he just looked 716 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: at me and said, I'll tell you what, when Fuller 717 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: is healthy, you guys are just a different ball club. 718 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: And it's true, it's very true we are. But he's 719 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. And the thing is he knows that. 720 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: Everybody didn't see. He knows that. Everybody nanafl knows that. 721 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: But he's got that ability to be as good as 722 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: he wants to be if he can stay in the field. 723 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: And it wasn't something that that ailed him at Notre Dame. 724 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: He didn't miss a bunch of games. That was not 725 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: He didn't miss this year that year. You know, Frank 726 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: Gore when he came out the University of Miami, he 727 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: had missed like two or three years the old ACL injuries. 728 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: He had two aclsh and his career was over and 729 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: then he got to the NFL and he's hardly missed 730 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: a kid, which is fascinating. Fascinating thing about Fuller is 731 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: they're all big injuries. I've seen players in my forty 732 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: five years that they get shampoo in their eyes and 733 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: name that's two weeks. But Fullers he's just say shampoo 734 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, he doesn't have little knicks and bruises 735 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: that he can't play. That's not Fuller. Fuller as major injuries, 736 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: and he's he's the most frustrated of any because he 737 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: knows it's costing him millions and millions of dollars if 738 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: he can't stay healthy. Well, I saw on Instagram he 739 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: cut off the dreadlocks. He looks completely different. So maybe 740 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: turning over to lead that's going to help his amstas. 741 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: Never know, John, If it does, then maybe everybody will 742 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: cut their exactly, yeah exactly. But I know people have 743 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: said I saw I think it was the Athletic an 744 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: article about forty two players that could be traded. I 745 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: know Aaron was probably forced. Aaron Reeese is probably forced 746 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: to write Will Fuller in there. But first of all, 747 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if any but he would would Will 748 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: will be no he will. He will not be. I 749 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: don't this, This organization would not do it. I don't 750 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: think it. But hoo's anybody. Look, you're playing on a 751 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: fifth year option. We haven't been able to extend you 752 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: only because of the injuries. Prove you can stay healthy, 753 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: and then we'll sit after the year and talk about 754 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: a contract. A lot of money. If he plays, he's 755 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: say fourteen games, he'd make a lot of money. God, 756 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: he played fourteen games. He played fourteen games. Well, I mean, 757 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to get greedy here. I don't want 758 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: to get greedy, John. I just want to see I 759 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: want to see our guys on the field. I used 760 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: to we used to say that about Clowney, and I 761 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: remember Clowney saying that after a playoff game. It was like, man, 762 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: what if Clowny could play for twelve games? I was like, Oh, 763 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: what have you played for sixteen games? Well, you'd see 764 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: exactly that, John, Thank you so much. Travel safe and 765 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: we'll see you when you get back. Thank you very much, John. 766 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: I'd appreciate it was great being on with you. Hey, 767 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: huge thanks to my man John McClain for being with me, 768 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: all of you for listening to everybody out there, Be safe, 769 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: stay patient, keep the faith, and at some point we 770 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: will reconvene tomorrow, hopefully at this same time from six 771 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: to seven I'll be on with Seth. From six to 772 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: ten tomorrow, we will update you on everything that is 773 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: happening in the world of coronavirus in sports. We'll talk 774 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: to NFL, probably some free agencies, some draft we'll do 775 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: all that and we'll be back tomorrow and presumably a 776 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer potential sighting, so you want to tune in 777 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: for that. Some big things going on with Mark. And 778 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, the fifty three on our website, 779 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com. The fifty three on Mark. It 780 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: is excellent. It is so so good, put together by 781 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: my man, Tyler Suttar. So we'll talk about that tomorrow, 782 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: hopefully with Mark. But for now, goodnight, be safe and 783 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: thank you, see tomorrow and as always, go Texans