1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody, John Middlecop three 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: and Out podcast. Those of you listening subscribed on Apple Spotify, 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: appreciate you. We're also live every single day of the week, 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: not this show, but all the volumes content on Amazon amp, 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: so make sure you download that bad Boy. We got 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: a good show coming up. A lot going on football wise, 7 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: some thoughts on Bryce Young Rogers and Jordan Love. I 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: saw Clark Hunt say that Mahomes he's underpaid and there's 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: nothing really they can do about it. We'll talk about 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: it all because the drafts is now over free agency. 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: The drafts, we had a pretty good idea who your 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: squad is. Now. You can make tweaks, you can make 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: a trade here there once the big cuts happen around 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: UH September first, but for the most part, like you're 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: not adding ten players moving forward. This is kind of 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: who you got to who you got uh and it's 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: fun time. So OTA's right around the corner. Aaron Rodgers 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: not skipping them this year. 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It's going to 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: happen next year with Caleb Williams. It happened with Trevor 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence right two years later, the Jags have a star quarterback. 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, people hated Justin Herbert Patrick Mahomes like people 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: thought he was a scrub. So it's just part of 51 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: the draft and whether you are an accomplished college player, 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: whether you didn't play that much and Anthony Richardson you're 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna get there's gonna be a lot of negativity surrounding 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: you leading up to the draft. Then once you get drafted, 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: everything becomes very positive. But I understand why people question 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Bray Show. He's small and for NFL standards, he's tiny, right, 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: And typically quarterbacks that have success in the NFL are 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: bigger players. Kyler Murray, who you know, I wouldn't say 59 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: he's had that much success on the field. He's obviously 60 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of success offfit with this contract, but 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: it was very, very easy to see how unique he was. 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: He's literally faster than every player basically in the NFL, 63 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: and his arm is really really strong. Bryce Young did 64 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: not run a forty. Why because he's not that fast. 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I remember when Lamar Jackson refused to run the forty. 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: It really bothered me. Fast players should always run why 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: cuse they're fast, and it'll be a positive once there's 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: a four to three to two next to your name. 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: I'll believe till my dying days that if Lamar Jackson now, 70 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: ultimately he got a massive contract and it all worked 71 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: out for him, But if he had just ran the 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: forty coming out of college or at the combine, he 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: would not have fallen. He'll pick thirty two because no 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: one's passing on a guy with a four to three 75 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: next to their name with his type tape. But he 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: didn't run, and part of that obviously was impacted by 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: Bill Poley in calling him a wide receiver. Bryce Shewing 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: didn't run a forty wide because he would have ran 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: a four to eight. But his game is not predicated 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: on running around. He keeps plays a live with his legs, 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: but he is not a running quarterback. He's not Kyler Murray. 82 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't play like that at all. He plays like, 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: i'd say, like Deshaun Watson. He plays like the Deshaun 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Watson before he got to the Browns, before all this 85 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: stuff came out about massage therapist, back when we all 86 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: thought he was a really sweet quarterback for the Houston Texas. 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: He keeps plays a live behind the line of scrimmage 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: and tries to win from within the pocket. And honestly, 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: in college, Bryce was even a better player than DeShawn, 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: and DeShawn was damn good. But here's one thing I 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: will say. I saw this stat on the interweb and 92 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: it was its eye opening, even though once you say 93 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: it out loud. Of course, the Georgia defense two years 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: ago is widely considered one of the great defenses of 95 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: all time, and now it has NFL draft status to 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: back it up. They had fourteen players over the last 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: two years drafted off that defense. Obviously, only eleven players 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: can be on the field at one time, so that 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: means guys that were backups last year were drafted, and 100 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: seven of those fourteen players were first round picks. That 101 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: is going to go down as one of the most 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: accomplished college defenses and one of obviously relative with all 103 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: the guys drafted, it might be unprecedented and it might 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: never happen again. Bryce Young played that team in twenty 105 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: twenty one twice in a month, and the first time 106 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: he played him, he kicked their ass. Alabama them forty 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: one to twenty four. Bryce was twenty six to forty 108 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: four through three touchdowns through for four hundred and twenty yards, 109 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and then in the National Championship game that ultimately Georgia 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: got them, Bryce was still good. He completed thirty five 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: balls through for three hundred and seventy yards and through 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown. He through two picks, but in that game, 113 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: unlike the game he destroyed them. His top two targets, 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and Metchie were injured obviously, Jamison top fifteen 115 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: pick and Metchie a second round pick with the torn ACL. 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: So Bryce Young has proven anytime you scout a player 117 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: in football, if it's a quarterback or a running back 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: or any position, you scout them against the best talent 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: they play. So whether that's teams or if I'm a 120 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's against the corners that are going to 121 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: get drafted if I'm a defensive lineman, it's against the 122 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: tackle or tackles that I played that are going to 123 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: be NFL players. And if I'm a quarterback, it's the 124 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: best teams that I play, right, And no player in 125 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: recent memory has played a team as good if you're 126 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: an offensive player as that twenty twenty one Georgia defense. 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: So when I see there's a lot of negativity and 128 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people questioning Bryce Young, how do you 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: take a quarterback who's five to ten And honestly, he 130 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: probably weighs closer to one hundred and eighty five than 131 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: the two hundred pounds that he weighed in at the combine, 132 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: because he's not really two hundred pounds. As a scout 133 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: told me that was there at the wighans, he looked bloated. 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: He looked like a guy who put it on a 135 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: bunch of fake weight. Of course he did, right, but 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: he's it doesn't it's not about the weight. It's like 137 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 1: can the guy play? And the guy can really play? 138 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: So is he going to get injured? I have no clue. 139 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Nobody knows. I heard Steve Kam tell Coward the other 140 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: day that like they had done studies in Arizona. There's 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: no way to know based on college information whether a 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: guy will stay healthy or get injured once he gets 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: to the pros. And I've talked about this before. We've 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: seen guys that get injured all the time in college, 145 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: then come to the pros and have no injury proms, 146 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: just like we've seen the opposite guys who have been 147 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: healthy their entire career high school, college, come to pros 148 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: and get hurt all the time. No one has a 149 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: crystal ball. No one knows. And quarterbacks, when you get hit, 150 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: typically get injured. Whether you're Russell Wilson, whether you're Peyton Manning, 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: whether you're Tom Brady. If I'm going to hit you 152 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and hit you hard justin Fields or justin Herbert, I 153 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: can injure you. So it's just whether you're small or 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: you're big. Now, in theory, you should be able to 155 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: take more pounding if you're bigger, for sure. But I 156 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: watch Bryce Young play that Georgia defense, dominate them and 157 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: get peppered in and keep getting getting up. Is Bryce 158 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: Young going to be a star in the NFL? No 159 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: one knows. I mean, all I know is that the 160 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: guy that I watched in college that shit translates to 161 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, and he proved it dominating against Georgia. Aaron 162 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Jordan Love. I don't want to start with 163 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Aaron rodgerscause I saw a headline the day he is 164 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: going and he mentioned this as introductory press conference, and 165 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: now he's living it. He is going to be with 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the New York Jets this offseason. In the last several years, 167 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: he was nowhere to be found in the off season. 168 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: When it came to the Green Bay Packers and their 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: OTAs their mini camps, he didn't show He did not 170 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: show up. And I know I can speak for myself, 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: and I'm a creature of Haver habit. I can do 172 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: the same things on a weekly basis. I like to 173 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: keep my schedule relatively routine. I like eating the same foods. 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't like a lot of change in my life, 175 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: though someone who hell, I just moved States a year ago, 176 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: not because I had to, but because I wanted to. 177 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: For me, it's very healthy when I create change sometimes 178 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: in my life it usually brings benefits for me. And 179 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: when I've been changed has been forced on me, whether 180 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: I've been fired from a job, whether you know, broken 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: up with a girl. Usually it brings very healthy benefits 182 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: to me. And I wonder if Aaron Rodgers knew that 183 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: he just needed to mix it up partly himself, right 184 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: like I need to leave this team, and partly because 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: the Packers wanted to leave him. And look what it's 186 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: already done, right, Like, he can't not show up in 187 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: the off season, Like that wouldn't work. He needs to 188 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: be there. But part of it's a little bit easier 189 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: knowing that, Like, you know what, I kind of want 190 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: to stay in New York this offseason. I'll go to 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: some NHL games, I'll go to Madison Square Garden, I'll 192 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: hang out with new people, and it'll force me to 193 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of get out of my comfort zone a little bit. 194 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes, and I think I speak for everybody, it's 195 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: easy to stay in her comfort zone. Hell, I'm king 196 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: of that. I love my little comfort zone. But when 197 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: I force myself to get out of it. And now, 198 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: once I've crossed state lines, I don't have a choice. 199 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: I have to a lot of times do things that 200 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say make me uncomfortable, but just are something 201 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: that I would not do if I still lived in 202 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Northern California and it has brought a lot of benefits 203 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: to my life professionally, personally, and I think you see 204 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: it with Aaron Rodgers, and I saw it with him 205 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: when I watched his press conference, that like making this change, 206 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: which i'd say kind of fifty to fifty forced on 207 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: him slash, he wanted this. I think it's going to 208 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: bring a lot of healthy benefits to him as a player, 209 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: right because, let's face it, last year, a big negative 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: with the Packers is he didn't have DeVante Adams, who 211 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: he had known for almost a decade. That like it 212 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: wasn't going to matter whether he was there throwing with 213 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: him in May and June because once they drafted multiple 214 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers and traded DeVante, like he had to get 215 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: on the same page as Dobbs and Watson, and they 216 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't get on the same page till it was too eight. Well, 217 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: this year, like there's urgency from the jump. You're on 218 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: the New York Jets and everyone's watching you. So getting 219 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: on the same page as Garrett Wilson, immediately, getting to 220 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: know these offensive linemen, getting this team to kind of 221 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: rally around you is really important. And getting the benefit 222 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: of doing this stuff in excuse me, in April, in May, 223 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: and in June is very very important. Building the foundation 224 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: of a relationship with someone else that you do not 225 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: know and have no you know, previous history with matters. 226 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think the Jets are going to benefit from 227 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of this new Aaron Rodgers of a guy that 228 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: has just gotten out of his comfort zone, because let's 229 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: face it, he had kind of been, you know, in 230 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: the same hamster wheel over and over as the Green 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: Bay Packers quarterback as the last several years. Kind of 232 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: knew the routine, knew the operation, and knew the players 233 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: around him. And listen, I think it's going to work, 234 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to be good. Obviously, he's 235 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. But if he stays healthy, I 236 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: think we see a rejuvenated guy. And sometimes when you 237 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: force change on yourself, you kind of chip on your 238 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: shoulders the wrong word. It just adds a little urgency 239 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: to your life. It just adds a little new motivation 240 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: and maybe he needed that. And listen, I think the 241 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: Jets are going to benefit from it. And I think 242 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: the players, obviously the Jets have been missing a quarterback 243 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: if they got the Aaron Rodgers version, even of last year, 244 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: the Jets are a wildcard team, so I think this 245 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty seamless transition. I said 246 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the other day. I guess it was yesterday's podcast that 247 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: like if And as of recording this right now on 248 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, the Packers have not exercised the fifth year 249 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: option on Jordan Love, and I need some more digging 250 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: on some of the comments and Gudakin's I thought had 251 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: a very fair like it's a lot of money to 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: commit to a pretty big unknown. It's not verbatim what 253 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: he said, but essentially, like to pay a guy Jordan 254 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Love picking up his fifth year option would be twenty 255 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: million dollars because he hasn't played any snaps. He hasn't 256 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: made any Pro Bowls or anything, so his fifth year 257 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: option is a different number than Herbert or Joe Burrow. 258 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: But he essentially said, like, giving you a twenty million 259 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: dollars that's essentially never played is whatdline nuts. And I 260 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: think if you look at last year with the New 261 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: York Giants, because in my take was yesterday, like, it's 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: a pretty bad reflection if they don't pick up the 263 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: fifth year option. Well, as I've had like twenty four 264 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: hours to think about it. I heard this guy in 265 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: finance the other day. He was on a podcast, very 266 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: successful individual kind of talk about, you know, the successful investors. 267 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: There's this balance. And I am a believer that optimistic 268 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: people tend to be more successful, but this guy, and 269 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: this guy reiterated that he's like I think in life 270 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: you need to be optimistic, but when it comes to 271 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: financial you know, freedom and investing and just knowing what 272 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: to do with money, you got to be very cautious 273 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: at times. You can't just be naively positive, right. Sometimes 274 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: you got to go, yeah, this is not a good 275 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: idea or this risk is not really worth it, even 276 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: if I believe into this. And I think, if you're 277 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: the Packers, what if Jordan loves terrible this year, even 278 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: if you like him, you've seen him grow over the years, 279 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: and you pick up his twenty million dollar option next 280 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: year and he's clearly a bottom ten starter and you're 281 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: stuck with him. That'd be terrible business. What has he done? Honestly, 282 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing he could have done, because he hasn't played 283 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: for you to feel good enough to pay the guy 284 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars guaranteed in twenty twenty four. Now there's 285 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: a chance after this year if you don't pick up 286 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: the option and he has a fantastic season and you 287 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Let's say throws twenty five touchdowns, and 288 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: you would you want to keep him on the team. 289 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Still you go, God, we should have picked up the option. 290 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: But that's playing Monday morning quarterback as of the day. 291 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: All completely understand if by tomorrow the deadline, they haven't 292 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: picked up the option and they just play it out 293 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, because the worst case scenario is also 294 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: a pretty good scenario. He plays really well and you 295 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: gotta pay him, and so what you know, he's not 296 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: We've seen kind of the market now for Daniel Jones, 297 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: who has way more playing experience. You would think if 298 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Love throws twenty twenty five touchdowns, his number might 299 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: even be a little less than that, and then you 300 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: can get the guy under a multi year contract where 301 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: you'd have to pay more than the twenty million dollars. 302 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: But he had done enough in seventeen games where you 303 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about him over the next couple of years. 304 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: But they are in a weird spot, and they're in 305 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: a spot that not necessarily their fault they had a 306 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: guy that started winning MVPs who was already one of 307 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: the great players of his generation. Or we're gonna do 308 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: play Jordan Love, you couldn't. You made the draft pick, 309 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: and you've put yourself in a position now to get 310 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: a tryout. Let's say he is terrible, and this to 311 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: me would be a bad scenario. He's terrible, your team's terrible, 312 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: and you picked up the fifth year option, and then 313 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're drafting a quarterback high, right, 314 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: really high, and in a quarterback draft that looks very, 315 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: very tasty, you just cut him. He's not tradable then 316 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: with a twenty million dollar price tag. So I've come 317 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: around and understand that by the time you're listening to this, 318 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: if it has come out that they have not picked 319 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: up his fifth year option, I completely understand why they 320 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: did that, And if they did, I do think it's 321 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: fair to say that's pretty risky scenario. That puts a 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: ton of pressure on him to feel very very good 323 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: about making him your starter still in two years, which 324 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: based where we're sitting today on May first, there's just 325 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: no way you can know whether or not you're going 326 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: to be in that situation because you have this great 327 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: unknown of the season beside practice, nothing to back that 328 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: up on. And speaking of nothing to back that up on, 329 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: I saw as of recording this, there have been eleven 330 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: guys that have had their fifth year option from two 331 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: thousand and this doesn't include Jordan Love twenty twenty that 332 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: draft picked up. And I always one thing I've really 333 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: changed my tune on over the years is like trying 334 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: to make bold takes on four fifths, six seventh round picks. 335 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: It's pointless because absolutely nobody knows. Nobody knows or good players. 336 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: The Tom Brady's, the Richard Sherman's, the George Kittles would 337 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: never sniff where they go, but at the time, no 338 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: one knows. Just like in this draft, there's going to 339 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: be a fifth rounder who becomes a stud, and there's 340 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: going to be a first rounder who stinks. But the 341 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: first round, which in theory should have the most talent. 342 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: Every single year just had a group. And this was 343 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: pre COVID, so this was based on two thousand nineteen. 344 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: A real college football season is going to have twelve 345 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: to thirteen guys max have their fifteenth have their fifth 346 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: year option picked up. That means over half the first 347 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: round three years ago, did not even get to a 348 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: point where you feel good enough about picking up their 349 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: fifth year option. Now some of them, right, Damon Arnette 350 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: was cut by the Raiders. Henry Ruggs is in jail. 351 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Rager different team, Akudah, different team. So some of 352 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: these players we have known now for months, if not 353 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: a year, that this was a disaster. And some of 354 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: them you know right away, Herbert Burrow justin Jefferson home run. 355 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: Some of them take a little bit longer, I uke, 356 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: but that is still a number that is well under 357 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: half the first round. So when you look at this 358 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: draft and I saw Clark Hunt came out and said that, uh, 359 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, of course Patrick Mahomes is underpaid. There is 360 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: no no way even if he was the highest paid 361 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: player in the league, he would still be underpaid. And 362 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it the other day watching Steph 363 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Curry go for fifty. There is no amount of money 364 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: the Warriors could pay Steph Curry that isn't like two 365 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: hundred to three hundred million dollars a year, which obviously 366 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: is not even allowed. Then you could say he's properly paid. 367 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: In the peak of Tiger Woods or the peak of 368 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, that there is no amount of money that 369 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: can come their way that can equal their value to 370 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: either their league or the PGA tour their team. And 371 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: I also thought about this with the draft. There are 372 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: really like four or five players in the league. And 373 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: in football it's quarterbacks, you know, in basketball it's less 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: than a handful of guys. If you don't have one 375 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: of those guys, you really don't have a shot. You know. 376 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: The reason the Philadelphia Eagles came so close to winning 377 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was not their roster was elite. It 378 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: really was obviously that helped. They had a really good 379 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: roster and a lot of good players. It was because 380 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: their fucking quarterback, like this season, like a top two 381 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: or three guy. He played like he was Burrow, Mahomes, 382 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Because if you don't have one of those 383 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: guys like Dak Prescott, people think I'm hard on Dak Prescott. 384 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Dak Prescott. Great guy, 385 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: very very solid player. And if he's your quarterback, every 386 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: year you're going to be in the playoff mix. And 387 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: if you saw this year you probably win a playoff game, 388 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: you are not winning a super Bowl. It's just not happening. 389 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the AFC, if you 390 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: don't have Mahomes, I'm going to include Josh Allen, even 391 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: though they've not made it out of the second round 392 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and it just feels like 393 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: they're a little short. But I do think he's good enough. 394 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: And obviously Burrow, I'm just not taking it that seriously. 395 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: I think we can add Aaron Rodgers, even though I 396 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: know they haven't got over the hump. Well, like you're 397 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: probably not winning it, like until the forty nine ers 398 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback situation, Like they're always gonna come 399 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: up short. It doesn't mean they won't make long runs 400 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: and win some playoff games, but like hard to win 401 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl that way basically impossible. If you don't have Lebron, 402 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: if you don't have Steph Curry, if you don't have Giannis, 403 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: like you're not winning it. Hell, you can have Kevin Durant. 404 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: Every time Kevin Durant is not around Steph Curry, he 405 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: ain't getting that close. You know, it's such a small thing. 406 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: So the draft, I love it, you love it. Fifty 407 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: four million people over a three day span and watch 408 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: the thing. It's fantastic television. But most of these players 409 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: have little to no impact, and well over half of 410 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: them will get cut, We'll be on different teams. And 411 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: then even the starters like those are replaceable starters. There's 412 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: a small percentage of huge impact guys, whether it's the 413 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: first round, and it only diminishes by the round. So 414 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: when I see Clark Hunt say he's underpaid, of course 415 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: he is because there's no amount of money the Chiefs 416 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: could give Patrick Holmes that he wouldn't be worth it 417 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: to them, right, just like Josh Allen, just like Joe Burrow. Obviously, 418 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, if Jalen keeps playing like that, he's just 419 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: his value to the franchise is unquantifiable. Like there's just 420 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: it's impossible to quantify what Steph Curry means, not just 421 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: to the Wars, but to the NBA. And he was 422 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: a seventh He was a seventh pick in his draft, 423 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: like three point guards went ahead of them, Like James 424 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Harden went ahead, way ahead of Steph Curry, and James 425 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Harden was a third pick. James Harden and Steph Curry, 426 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: they're not even the same fucking universe as players, and 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: James Harden's when All Sudden Done, is gonna make five 428 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, win an MVP. All these points they 429 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: have nothing in common, and James Harden is like gonna 430 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: be Hall of Famer. So the draft while fun, these 431 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: players will become really good players, but for the most part, 432 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: it's like, does it really matter that much to the 433 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: overall landscape of the league. Now? If Anthony Richardson becomes 434 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, then the Colts got a shot. And that's 435 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: what I saw a baller talking about it, like, listen, 436 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: this might fail, and I talked about it yesterday. If 437 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: it does, they're all screwed. They're all going to get fired. 438 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: But if it hits and he becomes like a bona 439 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: fide star, they got a shot. Like the reason when 440 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: Lamar is healthy. Listen, they haven't got over the hump yet, 441 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: but or even won that many playoff games, But you 442 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: can give him a shot. When he's playing at a 443 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: high level and he's running around fucking throwing touchdown passes, 444 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: the defense is playing well, it's intriguing and honestly, more 445 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: than likely he'll never be on that tier. But maybe 446 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: they're hoping they get his mind back right, and he 447 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: can get him back in the mix. Because right now 448 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: it's clear in the AFC two guys are head and 449 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: shoulders above everyone else in Mahomes and then Burrow and 450 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You know, I would put right in a 451 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: separate tier, but damn close, you know. And then there's 452 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Aaron Rodgers lamar jack. And that depends. 453 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: Like Aaron if he starts winning an MVP, if he 454 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: were to be the MVP of the Jets this year, 455 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: not the Jets actual team, but the entire league, you'd 456 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, they'd have a good chance as any 457 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, then Packers didn't win anything. Well, 458 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: their defense has been pretty atrocious historically with Aaron Rodgers. 459 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: So if the Jets defense is good, like part of 460 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: the reason the Chiefs have had some success in the playoffs, 461 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: like their defense plays well. Obviously, Mahomes an all time 462 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: special quarterback, but you got to have a solid defense 463 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: to go along with a special player. Like what are 464 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: the Bengals had the defense been prety damn good the 465 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Okay, let's bang out a little 466 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in 467 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: those dms. Get your question answered here on the show 468 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Easy to Do Instagram is just my name DMS wide open. 469 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: Start with Jordan, huge fan of the pot I'm curious 470 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: what the communication chain is as a scout. How did 471 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: you evaluate players? Who did you report to your findings 472 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: and were you evaluated? I love to learn more about 473 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: the process. Well, I would imagine every organization is different. 474 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: You know when I was when I became a road scout, 475 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: I had worked in the office and I had just 476 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: because you know, my first year, I basically was like, 477 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: how he's essentially scouting assistant. So when you put in 478 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: something to the you know, as a road scout, obviously 479 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: the bosses can see it, whether you're director of scouting, 480 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: your personnel guy in your GM. So once you put 481 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: it in, everyone can see it. Now, you know, my 482 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: relationship at the time, Like I could just shoot how 483 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: he a text like hey I saw this, love this right? 484 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: Or I could send the director of college scouting a text, 485 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: hey I like this. So I do think it depends 486 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: on the organization, your relationship with the boss. I think 487 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: some are vary by the book, Like if you don't 488 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: have a great relationship with the GM, not because he 489 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: doesn't like you, just because you don't know him that well. 490 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: You know, you don't spend that much time with them 491 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: as a road scout. Maybe you just report directly to 492 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: the college director, which I think is pretty normal. And 493 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: there are gonna be some scouts that are close with 494 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: the head coach, right so during not that he's locked 495 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: in during the season, but like you know, when Brett 496 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Veach was a road scout, like he could just shoot 497 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Andy a text, right, just like you know, there are 498 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: guys with the Chiefs that just you know, shoot probably 499 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Veach text all the time, and there are some that 500 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: just report to people under him. I'm just using those 501 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: two his examples because I know how they kind of work. 502 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I just think it's very dependent on the organization. I 503 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: can only speak from my experience, but I think knowing 504 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: some scouts, I think some probably deal directly with the 505 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: GM throughout the season, like just texting and emailing more 506 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: than others. And I think it's just it's like any company, right, 507 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: if you work and you know the CEO directly, you 508 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: know you might friends with a guy, right. If you don't, 509 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: you probably don't communicate with him that much. You communicate 510 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: with management. Now, I the hard part is like our 511 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: scouts evaluated. You know, the sad part about the profession is, 512 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think as much as you'd think, right, 513 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: coaches are if you're an offensive coordinator and your offense sucks, 514 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna get fired. Same thing with a defensive coach, 515 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: or same thing with a position coach. When it comes 516 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: to scouts, like if your buddies with a GM or 517 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: your buddies with the head coach, or buddies with the owner, 518 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: that's another thing the owner. You might be an average 519 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: below average scout and keep your job for a long 520 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: time and get elevated. But that's i'd say the same 521 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: and most industries anyone listening to this knows, and especially 522 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: if you consistently work in the office. Now it's crazy 523 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: that I even like consistently like it used to be 524 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: for the history of time to everyone just worked in 525 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,239 Speaker 1: the office, but their office dynamic mix of yeah, this 526 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: guy's overpaid, this guy's worthless, this manager sucks right, this 527 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: guy's stealing, this guy's underpaid. It's probably no different than 528 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: any industry. Now that the draft is over, how do 529 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys will do this season, shouldn't they 530 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl contender? If not, why not? Well, 531 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: of course they are, and partly because of the NFC. 532 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: There's them, the Eagles and the Niners, which I would 533 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: put on their own tier, and I'd probably put the 534 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Eagles in the Niners on a higher tier than the Cowboys. 535 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys went toe to toe with the Niners. 536 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: They easily could have won that game. The thing that 537 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: gives me pause about the Cowboys back to back seasons 538 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Dak throwing picks in the playoff games that they lost. 539 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: And listen, I don't think Dak is some scrub. I 540 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: think he's like the tenth, eleventh, ninth, twelfth quarterback, right 541 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have games like he did against Tampa 542 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: where he throws a bunch of touchdowns and he looks 543 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: like a superstar, but that's not actually who he is. Now. 544 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he's the guy that throws all these picks. 545 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: But last year he threw a lot of picks. He 546 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: threw multiple picks in a playoff game. And until he 547 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: like I will bet against him in big games and 548 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe he'll prove me wrong. But like I just said 549 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: earlier in the podcast, like the reason I don't think 550 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys can win the Super Bowl. They have talented 551 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: enough players on the roster. It's a quarterback is not 552 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: good enough. And maybe as a moment and I eat Crow, 553 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: I'd be happy to because obviously when the Cowboys play, 554 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting, everyone cares. Television ratings are big, which means 555 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: more people are watching football, which matters to me because 556 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: that's the business I'm in. You guys watch, I give takes. 557 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: You know, the less people that watch worse than is 558 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: for my business. I wish he was even better, but 559 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: I just don't. I think he has a ceiling. I 560 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: think he has physical limitations, you know. I think he's 561 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: closer to Alex Smith as a thrower than anyone wants 562 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: to admit. This guy ain't fucking Josh Alan and Patrick 563 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: Mahomes slinging around out there. So but he kind of 564 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: thinks he is at times, and that got him in trouble. Now, 565 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: if you can clean up on that, maybe they can 566 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: overcome it. But I don't know. I would say to me, 567 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys feel like a second round and out team. 568 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: But I do think they're really good. I think dan 569 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: Quinn's the stud I think their defense is gonna be awesome. 570 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: I think they're, you know, offensive solid. Their offensive line's good. Seed. 571 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: He looks like a stud. Paulard's a good player. I'm 572 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: a senior at the University of Oregon. I just got 573 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: a job in Arizona entry level sales. I'm an avid 574 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: golfer around a nine handicap. Was wondering what are some 575 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: good tracks to play in or around Scottsdale in my budget. 576 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, love the podcast. I think the 577 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: best thing to do when and this is what I 578 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: did when I first moved out here is there's an 579 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: app called golf Now, and download the golf Now app 580 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: and then just type in wherever you live. For you 581 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: type in Scottsdale, and it'll show all the public tracks 582 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: and the different deals throughout whatever day you want to play. Uh, 583 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: that's the way I would recommend it. So I don't 584 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: know what your budget is. I take it that you 585 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: just graduated college, or you are your senior in college, 586 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: or you know you'd like you don't want to play 587 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars rounds, then it can give you a 588 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: lay of the land. There's a course right down the 589 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: street from me. Silverado, which you know I was always 590 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: told I've played it before. It's like a muni. Someone 591 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: told me the to the day they're charging one hundred 592 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. One thing one industry you talk about the 593 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: inflation has impacted positively for their business is golf, because 594 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: not only have they raised the prices, they're filling out 595 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: the tea times. I saw in the Bay Area. I 596 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: see it here in Scottsdale. Average course is charged way 597 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: more than in your You're like, wait, this is you're 598 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: charging two hundred dollars to play this course. And then 599 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: you look at the T shirt. You're like, every fucking 600 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: foursome's packed. Right. You can be like, wow, this restaurant's 601 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: way over priced average food, and then you look in 602 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: the restaurant there's not an empty seat. You're like, well, 603 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: are they actually overpricing the stuff or are they just 604 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: being smartier? You know, right, if you can sell it 605 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: at that price point, you should keep selling it at 606 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: that price point. And I'll tell you this, download the 607 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: golf Now app, which maybe you already have your nine handicap, 608 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: but I don't you know, things are it's expensive to 609 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: play golf. The public golf around here is just it's 610 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: borderline outrageous. If you've been playing golf for a while, 611 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: I really enjoy your content. I'm not even a football guy, 612 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: but the but I like listening to some more people 613 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: break things now. I appreciate it. Love your work. Really 614 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: nice to listen to someone who has a NOBS approach. 615 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Most of those ESPN guys suck. That being said, I'm 616 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin and a huge Packer fan who follows the 617 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: draft process closely. I had this thought last night after 618 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: Day two of the draft about the Packers draft philosophy 619 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: and the results after and I wanted to get your 620 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: take on it for the mailbag. Our last thirteen first 621 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: round picks, beside Love have been defensive players. How much value, 622 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: how much valuable draft capital can we devote to that 623 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: side of the ball every year to end up with 624 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: the top five or ten defense this year in in 625 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: year out? Are we missing on picks that much? Is 626 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: it coaching, scheme, play calling? I'm not sure? But at 627 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: what point do we change or just our philosophy sounds 628 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: like the definition of insanity. Seems like we are behind 629 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: the times and need to adapt or die, especially in 630 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: the post Rogers era. I'll defend them this way. If 631 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking your last whatever seven eight drafts, the 632 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,959 Speaker 1: majority of those years, your team has not been under 633 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: five hundred. Hell, you've won the division many of those years, 634 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: right up until last year where you had a shitty 635 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: year and you still went eight to nine. The previous 636 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: three years you won the division, you were like the 637 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: one seed. You were drafting in the mid to late twenties. 638 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: You're just drafting. Even in a good draft, most drafts 639 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: have Let's say if last if this draft had just happened, 640 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: on average, had fourteen first round graded players. If we 641 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: just went throughout the whole league, let's say a good 642 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: draft has twenty three first rounders. Well, if you're drafting 643 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: on average every year twenty five, for the most part, 644 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: there might be a first rounder or two even left there, 645 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: so you're typically it is much easier. The best draft 646 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: the Niners have had in the last like five years 647 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: was the draft where they drafted Nick Boson, Deebo Samuel. Well, 648 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: what happened that draft? They drafted two overall. So when 649 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: you suck, you don't just draft high in the first round. 650 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: You draft high in every draft. Well, when's the last 651 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: time it's like all the Packers won three games. Well, 652 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: that wouldn't just be like, oh, they could also draft 653 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: whoever in the first round. That means every single round 654 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: you get to draft a good player. And that's just 655 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: typically not the case with you guys, because you're always 656 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: pretty damn good. And when I think about it, you know, 657 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: you have hit on some players over the years. Ji 658 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: Alexander's good, Kenny Clark is good. You probably know it'd 659 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: be hard for me to break down Savage his game, 660 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: but kind of liked him, you know. You, Yeah, you've 661 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: also missed on some players. But I don't think it's 662 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: ever wrong to just draft who you think is the 663 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: best player now, just because instead of drafting whatever defensive player, 664 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Let's say I wanted to say Kenny King, but I 665 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: don't think that's his name. Whatever, King's the corner that 666 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: you drafted a couple of years ago. Let's just say 667 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: you would have drafted an offensive player there. There's no 668 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: guarantee just because you drafted a guard or or tight 669 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: end that that guy's gonna be any good. So I 670 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, Like we've drafted all these picks, 671 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: how is our defense doesn't look like, you know, the 672 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: fucking forty nine ers or the Dallas Cowboys or something 673 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: like what's going on? And I'd go, well, your coaching 674 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: has been pretty questionable, right, your defensive coordinator. When's the 675 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: last time you've had a defensive coordinator that went on 676 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: to be a head coach? For example, you and the 677 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: forty nine ers have been pretty even over the last 678 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: three or four years. Right, one differentiating factors You had 679 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers and they had an awesome defense. Well, both their 680 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: defensive last two defensive coordinators became head coaches, and Kyle 681 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with that. Hell, John Lynch has 682 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. Now Kyle does in terms 683 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: of he hires them. But like, those guys are just 684 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: really good coaches. Well, Laflor and Goudikins, I forget the 685 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: guy you fired wasn't Oh's Pettin and then you go 686 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: with Barry. Well, are either one of those guys going 687 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: to be a head coach or even in the to 688 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: be a head coach? Doesn't seem like it, right, So 689 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: part of having really good defensive players, which you got 690 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 1: a draft well, but also defensive coordinators, really good ones 691 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: can make guys really good. I saw Fred Warner say, like, 692 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't think my career is here if I'm not 693 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Aroundmiko Ryans. What if Fred Warner's just on Seattle or 694 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: on the Houston Texans or on the Minnesota I does 695 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: he become that? Maybe? But I don't know. So coaching 696 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL really really matters. Like if I put 697 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: the top ten college coaches at Georgia these last two years, 698 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: I'd say eight out of ten of them might win 699 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: back to back national championships. And I'm not diminishing Kirby Smart. 700 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart's really good. But as we've seen, the teams 701 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: that had the most drafted players this year were Georgia, Alabama, Michigan, 702 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: and TCU. What do all four of those programs have 703 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: in common? Awesome? I mean Michigan, TCU, Georgia were playoff teams, 704 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State the one team that is not in that list, 705 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: and Alabama was basically the fifth playoff team. So, like, 706 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: to be good in college, you have to have a 707 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: ton of NFL guys. It's about the jimmy's and the 708 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: jokes way more than the exes and the os. The 709 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: NFL is the nex'es and o's game. Now, Obviously, if 710 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: you get Miles Garrett, or you have Ed Reed or 711 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis or Nick Bosa Khalil Mack in his prime, 712 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: of course they can overcome bad schemes. But like most 713 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: good defensive coordinator, like what makes Vic Fangio so good, 714 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: Like that guy's smart. That guy is a great defensive schemer. 715 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: And I've known people that have been in the meeting 716 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: room with him that just like I'm telling you, when 717 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: he tells a player something's gonna happen, it happens. Why 718 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: do we give offensive coaches so much because when you 719 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: hear these if you talk to Travis Kelcey, or you 720 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: talk to George Kittle, or you talk to trying to 721 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: think of really good offensive coaches in the NFL. You 722 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: know the Tennessee when Arthur Smith was there, they go, 723 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: these guys really know what they're doing because scheming and 724 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: game plans really matter. So I guess this is a 725 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: roundabout way of saying, I don't think your philosophy of 726 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: drafting these players is crazy. I don't even think it's wrong. 727 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: I think we could argue as like maybe your defensive 728 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: coordinators just our blow average out of the quarterbacks taken 729 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: in the first round. Who do you think has the 730 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 1: best chance to succeed? Bryce Young has the intangibles, but 731 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna go into rebuilding franchise much like CJ. Strout. Personally, 732 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: I think Anthony Richardson is in a really good situation. 733 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: They don't have a bad roster. The old line will 734 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: be healthy. Jonathan Taylor will also be healthy. The Colts 735 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: have promising pieces outside of Pittman, Pierce Downs and Woods. 736 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: A veteran quarterback who can teach Richardson. More importantly, a 737 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: coach with a good track record of coaching good young quarterbacks. Well, 738 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: I agree of all the I mean of c J. 739 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce Young, clearly he goes to the team 740 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: with the most talent on the current roster. The one 741 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: thing I will say, though, Bryce and CJ have played 742 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: a ton of football in the brightest of lights, in 743 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: the biggest programs and been multiple year starters. I mean, 744 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: this guy's a thirteen game starter and for the most 745 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: part it's been pretty ugly. So to think that this guy, 746 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: even if it's an easy landing spot, there is still 747 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: a massive, massive question. A couple of years ago, a 748 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of people like Trey Lance there's not a better 749 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 1: spot to go to than the San Franco forty nine ers, 750 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: And it was actually the opposite because the standards like, well, 751 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: gott he looks really bad. Now. The difference is the 752 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: cults are not as good as that team. But my 753 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: point is if we look at it like that, if 754 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: it doesn't go as well and he starts swimming, you 755 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: can kind of get into a weird spot. Now I 756 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: listen to podcast, everyone thinks it's gonna start. There's gonna 757 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: start him, which I guess that seems pretty risky because 758 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: what if he clearly isn't ready, Like what if it's 759 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: like he's a year away. Can they just take a 760 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: deep breath or are they just unwilling to because there's 761 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: there's a there's a fine balance of like the only 762 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: way to get better is reps, but like, is he 763 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: ready for the reps? And I'm talking outside of practice 764 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: because okay, I don't know their schedule, but like, you 765 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: play the Jags, then you play the Paths, and then 766 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: you play the Steelers and then you play you know, Seattle, 767 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: Like these are real teams. You're you're no longer playing 768 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: in Mississippi State or fucking Kentucky. This is like you 769 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: got the Jets this weekend. You know, then you gotta 770 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: go on the road and play the Patriots and Bill Belichick, 771 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: you are not playing Vanderbilt. You're not getting you know, 772 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: some of these lesser SEC teams. You know, most teams 773 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: in the SEC are not Georgia in Alabama, tex A 774 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: and m was terrible. So I I think long term, 775 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: I think it's Anthony Richardson has the highest ceiling. I 776 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: would say immediately, I think Bryce will probably look the best. 777 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: He's got Frank, He's got a coach who's had success, 778 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: who's been an offensive coordinator, has been the head coach, 779 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: who is a quarterback. So I think immediately I will 780 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 1: look for Bryce to look the best. It would not 781 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: shock me if early on and CJ, I would imagine 782 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: CJ will look better than Anthony Richson early on. I 783 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: would kind of expect Anthony Richison to look pretty terrible 784 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: early on. Remember Josh Allen's rookie year, it was like Jesus, 785 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: this has got a long way to go here. That 786 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: to me would kind of be the Anthony Richardson expectation 787 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: to be like what is happening? Okay, last one Hey John, 788 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: another boyfriend dming you for the mail bag from a 789 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: girlfriend's Instagram. Actually had my insta hacked from a bitcoin scammer, 790 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: semi similar to your Azuki running. Might have to retake 791 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: my Insta just to do DM for the pod. As 792 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: a Bills fan, should we be excited for Kincaid? Watch 793 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: a good amount of Utah football this year? And I 794 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: know you did as well. I like the pick, but 795 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: have mixed feelings about moving up two spots to get them. 796 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: I think it's comp of what I think DJ hit 797 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: it on the head is like a Travis Kelce type player. Now, 798 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: some of these comps comparing anyone to Travis Kelce, who 799 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: might go down is the greatest tight end is stupid. 800 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 1: Just like when Zay Flowers comes on DV, It's like, 801 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: who's this comp Tyreek Hill or the Pittsburgh guy. It 802 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,359 Speaker 1: was Aaron Donald, Like what it's not fair to any 803 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 1: Michael Mayer Gronkowski. But if this guy is a really 804 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: good tight end and can be an eighty catch guy 805 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: can be a just a security blanket for your quarterback 806 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: because to win in the playoffs in cold conditions, you 807 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: can't just go bombs away. Sometimes you got to ugly 808 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: up the game, and that's where tight ends I'm into play. Now. 809 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: I know you have Dawson Knox, and I think, is 810 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: he still on the team. I've always liked Dawson Knox, 811 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 1: but you clearly need you know, Burrows. It's pretty unique 812 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: because they got the two unreal receivers. Obviously, Mahomes has 813 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: has Kelsey. You know you look at Jalen Hurts, he 814 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: has Dallas Goddard. I think it is very, very important 815 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: to have a high end tight end. I'm a big 816 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: believer in the tight end position. Two teams I watch 817 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: the most have Kelsey and Kittle. Those guys are unfucking 818 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: stoppable when they get rolling because like safety can't cover them. 819 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: So if that's this guy who comes from a high 820 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: level program who's been one of the better players, they've 821 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: gone back to back Rose Bowls, like yeah, I like it. 822 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: I like drafting highly productive, high character guys on winning 823 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: programs Utah football back to back Rose Bulls, and I 824 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: wonder if you asked them who's your best player the 825 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: last couple of years, he'd be right there in the mix, 826 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: him and Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd got drafted pretty high too, 827 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: So I almost said Devin Lloyd was on the Bills, 828 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: but he's on the He's on the Jacks. I like 829 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 1: to pick, I do. I actually like you guys signed, 830 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: and I'm a little biased here signed a running back 831 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: out of Fresno State, MIMS. Love that guy. You can 832 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: keep an eye on mems prediction right now, he makes 833 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: a team. I know you just signed Latavious Murray. What 834 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: if he beats him out? That's all ind on that 835 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 1: hot take, MIMS. Undrafted free agent. Listen, everyone listening right now? 836 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 1: Who's a fan of said team? Vikings, Cowboys, Texans, Cardinals, Niners, Rams. 837 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: Undrafted free agent will make your team. That's what's so 838 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: cool about the NFL that undrafted some teams, several undrafted 839 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: free agents will beat out four fifths, six seventh round picks. 840 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: So what makes football so cool? Just because you get 841 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: drafted in the fourth round, you ain't guaranteed anything, and 842 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: that undrafted free agent that got seven thousand dollars to 843 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: sign might beat your guy out. Get a phone call. 844 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: I need to pick up audios. Talk to everyone later. 845 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: Peace the volume