WEBVTT - They stole $10K from me 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.760 I'm literally gonna walk you guys through something going on 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:05.880 in my life that no one knows about except for 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:10.880 Tyler and Amber and Chris my tour manager. Okay, and 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.720 now you and simultaneously everyone else on the podcast and 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:32.960 Granger Smith Podcast episode ninety one, ninety are we started? 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.880 We're going? We're going. So I'm gonna ask the first question? 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.280 Is that cool? We have to at least to knowledge 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.080 of this play? Why is there no blue board back here? Granger? 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.040 That's true? Why is there no blue board? You want 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.080 to tell everybody? I'll tell it. I'll tell everybody. We 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.160 are in the new spot. This is episode ninety one, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.080 but it's a the inaugural episode of the new We're 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:56.440 in the new podcast room. It has the we have 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.800 the reclaimed wood behind us for those of you that 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.240 are watching on YouTube, but it's a different We don't 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.080 have the blue board. That's right. People have commented about 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.119 the blue board. Does anybody else just watch the blue board? 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:12.200 I should paint. I should paint right there. So Bernie 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.720 Calcoate guest today. Thanks for having me back, one of 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.759 the one of the all time favorites. People love you man. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.160 When you're here very difficult to follow. You and Amber. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.040 Come on, y'all are just amazing together, and you have 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.800 this EE nation following you, guys and fans of y'all 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.440 for a reason. So it's been awesome to listen to 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.480 you all the last couple of weeks. I'm always surprised 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.119 that you actually listen when you're not on the episode, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.120 that you still listen to the episode. Yes, I'm on it. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.760 I don't listen no way, man. I feel you on that, 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.280 but it's hard for me to listen to myself. But yeah, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:54.320 I love you, know, Pastor, Chad and Amber and Tyler Parker. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.120 I love hearing you guys chop it up well. People 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.760 email Granger Smith Podcast at Gmail their questions and they'll 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.680 they mention you a lot like, Hey, Granger and hopefully Bernie, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.800 he'll say things like that, we answer questions on this 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.280 podcast for those that are new. Any anything under the sun, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.680 could be any kind of question, and we'll talk it 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.520 through as if we're sitting at a campfire together, Me 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.280 Burns and the person asking the question, they say, can 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.359 I run something by you guys, and we'll just kind 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.600 of walk through it. No notes, we don't have anything 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.680 on this table, no notes or or I haven't really 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.200 read these questions to figure out what I'm going to say, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.320 and I like it that way. Yeah, we could just 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.560 go off the cuff, so I have some ready for 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.440 you today. Burns, all right, let's do it. But I 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.800 want to start with my own. Okay, I got something. Okay, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.720 I got something for you. Man, this is good. Okay, 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.440 this is so guys. I've known Bernie for twenty one 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.880 years and he's always been the guy for me. And 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.679 the reason he's on this podcast is so that he 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.280 could also be the guy for you. But he's been 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.760 the guy for me that if I if I'm struggling 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:07.399 with something it could be good or bad. We could 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.320 we could maybe have not talked for a month, and 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:11.720 I'll call him like, man, I got to talk to 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.119 you about something, and he always will give me the 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.640 sound advice that I need. He doesn't necessarily take my side. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.839 He'll just give me the advice I need to hear. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.280 And that's what I love about him, and that's why 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.120 he's such a great guest on this podcast. And so 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.399 I'm gonna I'm literally going to walk you guys through 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.359 something going on in my life that no one knows 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:35.120 about except for Tyler and Amber and Chris, my tor manager, 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.680 and now you and simultaneously everyone else on the podcast. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:46.320 So here's the deal. Okay, this podcast is coming out Monday. Ye, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.160 so right now as we're as we're recording it, it's 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:53.160 the previous week where before you're hearing it obviously. So 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.160 on this coming Saturday, we're gonna be in Algona, Iowa. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.760 And this has been something that is there's been an 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.640 issue without going to Iowa that's been boiling over for 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.840 the past couple of weeks. Okay, Chris, this is a 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.480 this is a it's called Freedom Fest. It's a festival, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.800 evidently a big festival in Algona, Iowa, and a lot 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.520 of bikers go to this. It's kind of known to 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.520 be a biker rally type festival. Okay, Freedom Fest. That 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:27.560 to me that it's on July third, Okay, right, fourth July, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.560 it makes perfect sense. Yeah. So Chris, my tour manager, 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:36.640 advances these shows, and he usually advances about two weeks out. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.000 That means he gets the final details laid out for 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.680 where are we going to park. I'm going to confirm 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.800 our start time. I'm going to confirm that you got 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.680 all the information I've sent you last month, as far 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.000 as how many people we have, how many meals we need, 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.440 what time we need lunch, how long you know are 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.800 our set's going to be. So during that advance of 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:01.480 this particular show, something happened that hadn't happened in as 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.599 long as I've been touring. Okay, the guy comes back 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.560 to Chris and he says, I just want to I 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.520 want to go over this cool down with you and 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.440 let you know that we will definitely be squeeging the 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:24.120 stage after the cool down. Chris is like, okay, tell 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.000 me more about this. I'm pulling up the exact email second. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:30.120 I don't have to paraphrase it, says. He says, the 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.760 cool down is a big part of the rally. It 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:36.240 happens nightly. It's essentially a wet T shirt contest parentheses. 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.359 Most choose not to wear anything at all. It happens 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.320 on the main stage. The contestants are blocked from accessing 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.440 any parts of backstage, and this they will enter and 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.039 exit from the stairs. And then he goes on just 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.680 to say, don't worry, we're gonna squege you the stage. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.240 It's going to be perfectly fine. But it's such a 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.000 big part of the rally. I want to let you 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.359 know what's going on. So I replied to Chris and 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.520 I said, nix it. That's all I said. Let's nix it. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.480 I said, you felt convicted enough to screenshot this, So 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.920 tell them, tell them not to do it. And so 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.760 it is a It caused a big problem. They're like, no, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.920 we don't, we don't nix it. This is a big 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.320 part of our rally. This is this is what we do. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.680 These girls get up and they you know, they they 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.400 get water host on the front of the stage and 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.920 they dance around and they get judged by the audience. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.720 So in my mind, I'm thinking, this is Iowa Yee 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.360 nation like these are. This is gonna be farmer families. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.479 There's gonna be old couples, there's gonna be kids. There's 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.680 gonna be people that you know, with very conservative values 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:53.560 that trust me, and they trust that they're gonna that 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.880 I'm not gonna lead them astray at a show. No 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:00.640 matter what their thoughts are, I'm gonna stick with let's 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:05.640 make this family friendly. So this goes This goes into 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:10.520 like book an agency world, This goes into lawyer talk 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:15.080 and they're going back and forth, and I just told Chris, like, well, 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.720 I guess I guess we're going to cancel. If it 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:21.520 comes down to it, I'll just cancel, which really hurts me. 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.280 These kind of festivals really pay the bills through all 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.400 the club dates and everything else. And so I'm preparing 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.680 myself that, yeah, we'll just we'll have to cancel. We'll 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.520 have to figure out financially how to get everybody paid regardless, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.680 but we just can't have it. And they're adamant, and 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.840 so it came all the way. This negotiation thing went 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.320 on and on. They said, well, can we build a 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.160 stage twenty feet away? And I said, my stipulations are this. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.720 Either it happens before our buses arrive, which is going 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.840 to be like eight am, or after our buses leave, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.720 which is like two am, or completely out of sight 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.840 away from my stage. And they said no. They said, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.800 how about we build a stage twenty five feet away? 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.480 I said no, I said, how about we cover all 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.960 of your gear? I said, no, that doesn't change anything. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.320 I'm not trying to protect my image here. I'm trying 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.880 to protect the fans that'll be on the front literally 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.480 the front road. Yeah, can you imagine if you walked 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.360 into that, you're just wanting to see a show, you 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:32.200 didn't expect that it's a fully nude with my kids. Yeah, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.400 so okay, I could tell you where we ended up, 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:39.480 or do you want to comment now? Okay, you could 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:43.400 jump in now if you want. I think I would 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.680 rather hear where it ended up. Sounds like there's a 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.199 lot on the line. Keep in mind, Lincoln is coming 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.640 with me. This has been planned from day one. Yeah, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:59.400 he's riding with me the all weekend. Okay. So so 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.559 they come back and they said, my book and agent 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.360 said it looks like we'll probably cancel. And I said, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.240 I just want to hear it from you, Braden, he's 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.160 one booking agent. He's a great guy. I said, I 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.320 want to hear it from you. They're choosing the girls 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:19.400 over me, not necessarily me personally, but the headliner of 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.640 the the headlining band. They're choosing the girls over the 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:26.559 headlining band, taking my ego out of it. And he said, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.960 let me let me just get that out of their 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.439 mouth because I just wanted to. I'm curious. So they 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.000 come back and the final thing they said was they said, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:41.800 well Granger will Granger take ten thousand dollars less of 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.600 his pay and we won't do it at all. And 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.760 so I said, yeah, I said true, if that's what, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.480 If this is a money thing, if this is that's 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.560 what it's about, then yeah, well you could cut ten 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:01.360 thousand dollars. There's a lot, Yeah, there's a lot money. Yeah. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:04.240 And I said, sure, I'm not going to fight any 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.480 more than that. Yeah, if that's what it's about. So 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.679 that they said this is the first time in thirty 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.600 six years they will not do the cool down at 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:20.360 Freedom Test and I'll go to Iowa. Amen. So let 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:27.320 me ask you, how do you feel about that decision? Well, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:31.880 how do you feel about your I struggle with it, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.320 and once again that you know, straight up on the podcast. 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.640 This is like a phone conversation between me and you, 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.600 But straight up I struggled with it, and I you know, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.760 first I felt anger. First, I felt like, well, I'm 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:45.679 just going to go on that stage. I'm just going 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:47.920 to tell everyone in the crowd exactly what happened that 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.360 they literally stole ten thousand dollars from my touring company, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.880 ban crew management, everyone that's involved in that that gets 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.240 paid from that kind of thing. And and Chris was like, man, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.520 you can't do that. There's like a safety issue involved, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.240 Like what do people throw things at you? Like what 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.880 if there's bikers that come just to see that and 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.160 they find out you're the catalyst of why they don't 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.160 see it, they can get mad. And I was like, 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.800 I should be so blessed to be persecuted in that way, right, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.080 But there's a fine line, sure, like you don't want 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.120 to be stupid. Yeah, So I haven't totally you know, 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.760 here we sit doing this podcast, what four days away 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.679 from this happening, So I don't know. I do know. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.400 I'm going to get off the bus and I want 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.319 to shake that guy's hand and look him, look him 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.200 in the eye, not to not to be mean, but 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.520 I just want to. At first, I just want to 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.840 say I'm glad we came to an agreement. I'm not 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:46.000 going to apologize. I can't. I'm so sorry to put 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.559 you through this kind of trouble. I'm not going to 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.800 say that, but I do want to say, you know, 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.959 thank you for being patient and coming to this agreement 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:55.720 with us. And then I want to have Lincoln with 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.800 me so he could see kind of part of the motivation. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.840 So yeah, what's that I think? No, I think that 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.760 this is part of the reason I think there's so 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:14.000 many people that follow you, follow this podcast are fans 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:20.040 of you, guys, is because you're one willing to talk 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:25.120 about things like this publicly and how you're walking through 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:32.319 these things. It keeps, uh, it keeps the perception of 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:36.400 you being just a real person dealing with you know, 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.120 real struggles and trying to live, you know, the way 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.160 that you feel convicted to live and stand true to 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:47.240 those truths. And I think that everybody out there is 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.199 kind of trying to do the same thing. Like, Man, 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.000 I believe this, and now all of a sudden, I 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:58.040 have this situation that is kind of I'm put into 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.640 this position where I have to just so earn what 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:05.280 what what path do I take? And how do I 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:09.760 stand behind what I believe but yet still be considerate 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.199 of you know a lot of people that rely on you. 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.600 And I think it want it needs to be acknowledged 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.520 that Granger and Amber have to make these decisions and 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:25.160 discernments on a very public stage most of the time. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:29.800 Nobody's like I'm not you know, in that grade of 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.560 an arena to have to like and great of an 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:37.120 impact on people's lives, fans and a big crew and 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.319 band and everything. So I think that needs to be acknowledged, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.640 just that you know, God has given you the strength 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.360 and the the grace to navigate this. He's given you 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:57.040 the tools as well. I think that there always is 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:04.400 the opportunity for grace to shine through, right and knowing you, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.880 at the end of the day, when we get five 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.040 years past this, you're going to want to look back 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:17.120 on it and say, Man, did I exhibit grace? Yeah, 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:22.240 that's great advice for me. Did did the people involved 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:26.920 feel like? Man? Because grace? Somebody put it this way, 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:33.840 it's unmerited favor. Yeah, it's favor. It's favor that they 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:38.800 did not merit. They didn't earn it. And so was 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:44.360 their grace extended and given and shown and displayed through 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.120 the way that you kind of navigated this. And and 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.280 sometimes if people are just cold and their hearts are 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.480 hard and they're very selfish and just all in themselves, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.360 they're not going to grace is offensive to them. So 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.240 they're just not right. They're not going to understand it. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.240 And it's not your place to make them understand. It's 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.800 your place to just display it and live it out 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.200 and I think the real and I'll sleep better at 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.560 night doing that too. That's right. When we do give 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.760 grace in that way, we feel peace and calm regardless 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.640 of how they react to it, regardless if they're offended 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.920 by the grace. We're gonna go to bed and layer 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:27.560 ahead on the pill and go I felt good about today. Yeah, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.600 I will be anxious to hear how this goes. But 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.560 I want to say, just just if we're you know, 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.680 if nobody's here and you're talking to me on the phone, dude, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:41.240 I think you did the right thing you and who 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:46.440 knows what kind of conversations that this will you know, produce. Yes, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.720 there's still gonna be a world that just wants to 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.480 go see girls get water sprayed on them and see 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.760 them naked, and they're still gonna be that's still going 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.240 to be in the world, like you not doing this 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.200 show or doing this show for less or whatever. It's 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.000 not going to take that way. But we have to 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.480 and I know you have to and feel a conviction 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:15.040 to be a positive and godly example to your fans 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:21.040 and leading them to that. I think you're absolutely right. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:26.960 People could be just well, this is not ee Nation. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.320 They would be real confused and you would probably get 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.760 a lot of emails like, hey, man, I brought my 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.360 family see you. Hey, I came to see you. I've 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.440 been listening to your podcast, right, Someone could have been 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.960 listening to the podcast and then that's their first show. Yeah. 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.040 So let me say I have to insert here that 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.960 this is not a moral high ground battle for me. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.640 I'm not any better than these people. So you know this, 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.480 but I'm kind of just saying it publicly on this podcast. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.680 I don't feel any better better than they are morally, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.800 or I don't feel like I'm an inherently better person 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.119 on the inside, or I was born better, or I 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.200 was raised by better parents, or I have a better 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.720 circle of friends, and therefore I don't partake. I'm not 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.560 any of those things. What it truly comes down to 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:26.159 is I have an authority above me that's different than 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:30.200 they have, and I have a fear of that authority. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:39.399 My fear of God and what he expects from me 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:45.880 is much greater than their perception of me. Or I'm 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:51.600 sure they think this guy's the biggest prude pansy. We've 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.160 dealt with bands for thirty six years, and no one, 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.560 no male testosterone singer has ever said I don't want 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.119 to see that online stage. Who is this guy? Who 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.200 does he think he is? So I realize that that 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.840 is far less a concern to me than the fear 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:16.280 of the God that I worship, and not for any 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:21.080 like egotistical or self righteous reason. But I think that 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.919 you should be proud of that. If you are the 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.320 first one in thirty how many every year, it's kind 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.080 of cool, you know what I mean? It's kind of 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.520 cool and kind of like, wow, how has nobody in 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:36.080 thirty six six years had an issue with this? So 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.080 to your point of who knows what conversations will happen? 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.280 Who knows next year when the band comes in and goes, really, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.920 that's what you guys do, then they might say, well, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.840 last year Granger Smith actually opted out, and then they 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:52.439 can go us two, Yeah, we're opting out. Yeah, maybe 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.960 that could happen instead of saying no one in thirty 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.040 six years is said no, and then the band might go, 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.960 I guess it's not that big a deal. The other 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.280 thing I want to say, on the other side of 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:03.919 the flip side of this whole deal, I want to 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:08.359 say that it is. Still it still blows me away 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.680 that we as a band are even worth something that 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.680 if you take ten thousand out of the paycheck, we're 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.800 still going to play it. So I don't want to 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.639 let that just slide like they're taking ten grand from me. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.520 That's a big deal. It still is a big deal. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.639 I'm blown away that we could because for most of 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.960 my career ninety percent of it, we didn't earn over 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.320 one thousand dollars. Yeah, one hundred percent of my career. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:40.600 So I actually remember my first one thousand dollars show 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.080 and that was a massive deal. So I don't want 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.080 to just throw that number out like I'm in any 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.840 way bragging. I do want to throw the number out, though, 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.879 to say, the severity of what these people are doing, 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:58.280 it's significant. I've never heard of someone taking ten thousand 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.560 from any company like that because of a moral conviction. Yeah, 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:08.480 it's crazy, that is. Yeah, So there we go. That's 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.480 my question of Bernie too, right. I mean, you couldn't 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.239 have thrown like a calvinist question like last week at me, right, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:19.680 I had to be I also think that you have honestly, man, 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:23.680 I know Chris, I know your band. I know, Tyler, 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:28.880 You've got a great team that believes in you. And man, 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.199 when you have that culture, it's it's not dependent on 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.040 one decision of this and this it's like ride or die. Hey, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:37.959 I'll run through a brick wall, man, what do you? 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.359 Let's let's go any nation. After last week's podcast and 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.760 reading all the comments, man, they they support you, and 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:48.919 I think they'll continue to do it regardless. That's awesome. 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.600 And yeah, shout out to Chris for catching that in 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.960 the advance and go and screenshot it and be like, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:58.240 oh yeah, let's send this to granger So we're going 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.119 to get into your questions. Guys. This is it's anything 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.560 you email to Grangersmith podcast at gmail dot com. And 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.720 I have a bunch that I have ready for Burns 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.520 today and I wanted to kind of start with a 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:18.000 kind of a looser, easier one. Here's one subject. Subject 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.800 line is music. Okay, says hey Grainger. My name is Mark. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.199 I'm a huge fan of your music. I'm a local 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.080 musician from Wichital Kansas. I play guitar and I'm a singer. 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.840 I've been playing music since two thousand and six. I've 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.920 been in and out of bands since two thousand and eight. 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.720 I've always had trouble finding the right people to make 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.760 music with, and I've always had trouble finding the right 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.480 producers that could teach me more about making music. My 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.159 biggest dream is to play music and make music for 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.520 a living and then play I'll go to Iowa and 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:49.159 have them take ten thousand dollars from My question is 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.560 how'd you get into play music? How do you make 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:56.200 kids out here? So this is this is another question 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.440 Burns you and I have gotten before. How do you 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.840 find band members? And what advice do you have for 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:04.040 an inspiring musician as myself? And I love reading these 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:09.560 because you are also a musician. So first of all, 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.359 I want to say that there's a different world than 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.040 when I was kind of coming up, And there's a 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:19.040 different world on the internet and YouTube. And when you 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.960 say having trouble finding the right producers who could teach 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.159 me more about making music, man, there's a lot of 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.840 them on YouTube right now. Yeah, it's a different world. Now, 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.240 how do we direct Mark in wichital Kansas shout out 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.679 to Kansas? How do we how do we kind of 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:41.119 direct him to finding the right band? Yeah? I have 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.639 one idea. I think there's still a guitar center in 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.680 which talk Kansas. I'm pretty sure that's usually a good place. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.679 Go to guitar center and you go to any guy 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.920 that's working the counter and be like, hey, my name 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:59.320 is Mark, I'm struggling finding band members. Well, those guys 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:01.960 at guitar so have seen every band member come through 0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:06.240 which ital Kansas. Yep, that's right at the counter. Yeah, yeah, 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.040 I think it's you. You got to get out and 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.919 meet people, and you got to understand that probably the 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:13.399 first three or four people you cycle through the band 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.280 may not click, and you just gotta hey, let's just 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:19.680 let's just jam. Let's get together and play. Let's get 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:24.560 together and play. If yeah, I don't think you get 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:27.720 too far ahead, I think you've said this before in 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:32.359 this answer, Like he said he wants to how do I, 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:35.280 you know, find a producer to make music and I 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.679 want to do music as a career, and maybe, you know, 0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:41.800 I think you can't jump too far ahead, man, like 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:46.280 you got to find just start with finding the right 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.800 people to play with, see what see what music comes, 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.320 and see what the culture of the band is and 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:56.880 what everybody else in the band's desire and if they're like, yeah, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.399 we want to make a record too, And then you 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:04.000 guys collect actively can find a producer and then a 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:08.080 tour manager, and then you know, like, yeah, you don't 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.040 put on the balcony before the foundation. That's perfect. And 0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.800 I want to say, Mark, you say, my biggest dream 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.359