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Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all. This is episode thirty of Native Lamppod.
Speaker 1: We have the thirty thirty already. I'm your host, Tiffany Cross,
Speaker 1: and I'm here with my co host Angela Rye and
Speaker 1: Andrew Gillim. Welcome home, y'all. Hey, Yeah, it's been a
Speaker 1: crazy week. I have to say, like when it comes
Speaker 1: to politics, it feels like a week is an eternity
Speaker 1: in politics. So every time we get off air and
Speaker 1: we come back to the next week, it's like one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand things have happened. How have you all like
Speaker 1: processed all this information during the Trump administration? I always
Speaker 1: said like trying to cover him was like trying to
Speaker 1: catch confetti, And so sometimes I feel like something's like
Speaker 1: slip through the cracks. Some things I can't keep up with.
Speaker 1: I will tell you guys. Today I am looking at
Speaker 1: what is happening in with in the Middle East, So
Speaker 1: big news out of the Middle East. I'm curious what
Speaker 1: effect that will have on the administration. But by tomorrow
Speaker 1: it'll be a whole, whole other story. But how y'all
Speaker 1: feeling with with this new wind and swing in the campaign.
Speaker 3: I took some days off so well, you know, we're
Speaker 3: watching the news.
Speaker 1: It was your birthday. Birthday.
Speaker 3: Thank y'all for the love, and thank y'all also our
Speaker 3: listening family and everyone who sent you know, birthday shout outs.
Speaker 3: It was really overwhelming. Had a great birthday dinner, and
Speaker 3: then we turned the weekend over to the kids who
Speaker 3: all wanted to do breakfast with daddy one on one,
Speaker 3: lunch with Daddy one and nobody can cook but me, right,
Speaker 3: and that's putting it. Uh, but but had a great time.
Speaker 1: But can I ask real quick? Okay, so you're forty five.
Speaker 4: I hope it's better than that last president, though.
Speaker 1: Can I ask how old do you feel?
Speaker 3: Oh? It depends on and how I wake up. My
Speaker 3: back hurt and I feel you know, ninety yeah, and
Speaker 3: then some days I feel like a sprut thirty, you know,
Speaker 3: like our episode number. So just as they say, you know,
Speaker 3: aging number a number, it's more like ages like how
Speaker 3: you feel you're you're about how old you feel? But
Speaker 3: I feel really good, I feel really blessed and looking
Speaker 3: forward to this next three sixty five.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking forty five was old.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: I think I remember thinking forty five was and I
Speaker 3: think I still think it.
Speaker 6: But I thank you.
Speaker 1: They say forty five, like or old, is twenty years
Speaker 1: from wherever you are. So the you know, the older
Speaker 1: you get, the younger these older numbers get. I know
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm twenty eight, you know until I
Speaker 1: talk to you. Look you look as frowyk you Well,
Speaker 1: I feel twenty eight Until I talk to a twenty
Speaker 1: eight year old, it is like no, chick, you and your.
Speaker 3: Forty talk to your own peers.
Speaker 1: Well, happy, belated.
Speaker 3: You'll have some time away too. Oh yeah, I'm just saying, y'a.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious, like, do y'all feel like you miss
Speaker 3: something when you were away? Or like, are you like whatever?
Speaker 3: I'll fit in where I get in when I come back.
Speaker 1: Now I's connected, But I think Angela was looking at
Speaker 1: her phone.
Speaker 4: I actually left my phone quite a bit TIF and
Speaker 4: I told you did. I left it quite a bit.
Speaker 4: It was great to get away. We have an annual
Speaker 4: girls vacation with the Machetes, and we had a good time.
Speaker 4: We made sure to send our brother Andrew a happy
Speaker 4: Birthday video from Mexico Video, and there will be some
Speaker 4: clips posted. There's already one circulating where Natasha Brown was
Speaker 4: getting a kiss from a sea lion and I didn't
Speaker 4: look too pleased or excited about it. So those things
Speaker 4: will be circulating. But I tell you what, I am
Speaker 4: excited about forty seven being Madam resident, not Madam Vice President.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited about talking about this and all the
Speaker 4: things in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think let's get into it, because you know,
Speaker 1: there's so many opinions and so much information out there.
Speaker 1: And one of the things on Vacation Andrew that Angela
Speaker 1: and I talked about is I was saying, like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to spend a bunch of time, you know,
Speaker 1: picking over everything right wing Republican extremists say about Vice
Speaker 1: President Harris. I just, you know, like that, I just
Speaker 1: don't like it. But Angela had a different perspective, which
Speaker 1: actually like won me over and convinced me. So, Angela,
Speaker 1: what was your counterpoint to me saying I don't want
Speaker 1: to spend a bunch of time talking about that, A.
Speaker 4: Bunch of time time about west Side I was trying
Speaker 4: to check.
Speaker 1: Well, So Angela's point. Yeah. So Angela's counterpoint was, but
Speaker 1: people need to know what to say, you know, like
Speaker 1: when when they say, oh, she's a Dei higher, that's
Speaker 1: such nonsense to me that I'm like, why would we
Speaker 1: spend our time? Our audience knows she's not a Dei higher.
Speaker 1: But Angela's point was, I think we should arm people
Speaker 1: with a retort, you know, with a counterpright.
Speaker 4: No, I don't remember what I said, Yes, but that
Speaker 4: is true. You know what else, Taraji, I am a
Speaker 4: Deei higher and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm about to tell you what is going
Speaker 1: on with Angela? Why did she call me Tai? I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about you, girl.
Speaker 4: Let me make my point about Taraji p Henson. What
Speaker 4: I was about to say was, I am a Dei hier.
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris will be a Dei high.
Speaker 1: You know a de I means now, definitely earned it.
Speaker 4: Definitely earned it. So I'm excited about claiming claiming our title.
Speaker 1: What's the Taraji forgive me for? Taraji posted it?
Speaker 4: She posted it, and that's what I said, relaxed, man.
Speaker 1: I know you're tech.
Speaker 3: She's being.
Speaker 4: Why did you call me Taraji?
Speaker 1: I didn't know all that would be a problem.
Speaker 4: I left her too, but you should have your own name.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful and you've done so many great things.
Speaker 3: But moreover, I love that that she's been so at
Speaker 3: the forefront, I mean putting. I mean we talked about
Speaker 3: Project twenty twenty five some time ago, but by and large,
Speaker 3: you know, I think everyday folks hadn't really plugged in.
Speaker 3: And then she goes to the bet wards, she shouts
Speaker 3: it out, she gives it. You know, it's time in
Speaker 3: this space, and it blows up as like number one search.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I appreciate this. D What is Project twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five? So shout out to Taraji and whatever else
Speaker 4: and shout out to Stoever. In this episode, Joy did
Speaker 4: the whole episode.
Speaker 3: She did an incredible executive Yeah, exacutive.
Speaker 1: So we're going to get into all of this on
Speaker 1: the episode. We're also going to talk about the VP stakes.
Speaker 1: By the time you are listening to this episode, there
Speaker 1: is a chance that Vice President Harris would have named
Speaker 1: her running mate, So we'll we'll get into that and
Speaker 1: we Andrew, I know you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: child Tax Credit, which means a lot to you for
Speaker 1: obvious reasons and probably a lot to a lot of
Speaker 1: our listeners as well. So let's let's jump right in.
Speaker 1: Do you do you guys mind? Because I want you
Speaker 1: all to know that Angela has been reading Projects twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five line by line, and one of our listener
Speaker 1: questions Donald Trump has been trying distance himself from Project
Speaker 1: twenty five out of the blue, and one of our
Speaker 1: viewer questions points this out, and I think it's a
Speaker 1: great way to kick off the show. So let's roll
Speaker 1: that question, Nick. I believe this is from Douglas. Gill Douglas,
Speaker 1: Hey native lampod.
Speaker 7: My name is Gil Douglas. I live in Dallas, Texas,
Speaker 7: and I don't actually have a question. I'm more like,
Speaker 7: have just a comment. As we are encouraging folks to
Speaker 7: have conversation around Project twenty twenty five, which I wholeheartedly support,
Speaker 7: I'm reading it myself. I also want to make sure
Speaker 7: that as we acknowledge and understand that Donald Trump is
Speaker 7: trying to separate himself from that manifesto, that he actually
Speaker 7: has a series of videos out there that speak to
Speaker 7: his platform, his intention around what he would do should
Speaker 7: he get into office.
Speaker 4: It's called Agenda forty seven.
Speaker 7: Now I've not listened to Agenda forty seven yet because
Speaker 7: his voice makes my ears bleed, but I am want
Speaker 7: to listen to it because I think there'll be parallels
Speaker 7: between that and Project twenty twenty five. And as he
Speaker 7: continues to say I'm not proud of Project twenty five
Speaker 7: that has nothing to do with me, then I think
Speaker 7: we need to encourage folks to go listen to the
Speaker 7: things that he has put out them there himself in
Speaker 7: Agenda forty seven. You'll probably be able to draw parallels
Speaker 7: between the two, but it allows us to have the
Speaker 7: conversation with him about what he's actually said while he
Speaker 7: is trying to distance himself away from something that we
Speaker 7: all know he will implement should he ever get elected.
Speaker 4: Thank you, y'all have a great one. Yeah, thank you
Speaker 4: so so much. I love I love our listeners and
Speaker 4: our viewers turning in these great questions and comments letting
Speaker 4: us know that they definitely feel at home. So that's
Speaker 4: the most important thing I will say. Donald Trump cannot
Speaker 4: distance himself from Project twenty twenty five. We know from
Speaker 4: reports I think three weeks ago, that one hundred and
Speaker 4: forty people are associated with project twenty twenty five, who
Speaker 4: used to work for Donald J. Trump, Right, So there's
Speaker 4: no distancing whether you call it project forty seven, project
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, project throwback forty five, project January sixth,
Speaker 4: project Supreme Court, got bigots on it. Whatever you call it,
Speaker 4: it is Donald Trump's plan. They have been wanting to
Speaker 4: borrow in employees in the federal government who were partisan
Speaker 4: and would work the Heritage Foundation agenda since Ronald Reagan. Like,
Speaker 4: let's be very clear about the fact that nothing has changed.
Speaker 4: Their make America great again is to make America Handmaid's
Speaker 4: Tale again, and we're not here for it. So we
Speaker 4: know exactly what it is. We're not confused, and we
Speaker 4: can move right along. But I do look forward to
Speaker 4: getting more into the nine hundred pages where they take
Speaker 4: away more of women's rights, where they try to chastise
Speaker 4: and punish the LGBTQIA community, where they tried to make
Speaker 4: children work beyond what is okay for labor laws, all
Speaker 4: of that I would look I look forward to talking
Speaker 4: about how they would like to defund Headstart and make
Speaker 4: life more difficult for our seniors who have definitely served
Speaker 4: this nation and helped to build it, so let's talk
Speaker 4: about it another time.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important for the viewers to know
Speaker 1: what exactly is in Agenda forty seven. And one thing
Speaker 1: a lot of people have given the Republicans credit for
Speaker 1: is the First Step Act, which we've talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about on this show. The First Step Act was
Speaker 1: introduced by Congressman Hakeem Jeffries. He did have a Republican
Speaker 1: counterpart joined him in that it was a bipartisan piece
Speaker 1: of legislation that was intended to correct some of the
Speaker 1: previous injustices when it comes to crime. Now, I never
Speaker 1: gave Republicans credit for this, I think, you know, because
Speaker 1: they pulled the knife six inches out our back. It
Speaker 1: was still in our backs. Nonetheless, and all of that
Speaker 1: work that they attempted to do they are now or
Speaker 1: attempted to undo. Rather, they are now reintroducing in both
Speaker 1: Projects twenty twenty five and Agenda forty seven. Some of
Speaker 1: those things include the death penalty for drug dealers. Now,
Speaker 1: one wants to define, well, what exactly is the drug dealer?
Speaker 1: If you sell in a nickel bag of weed someplace
Speaker 1: where it's not legalized, are you then eligible for the
Speaker 1: death penalty? Another thing. He wants to invest significant amounts
Speaker 1: of the federal budget into police hiring, more police, training,
Speaker 1: more police. That has not served us well. The last
Speaker 1: time we saw something like that was during the era
Speaker 1: of a George H. W. Bush, who tripled funding for
Speaker 1: criminal justice efforts that basically declared a war on black people.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump wants to implement stopping frisk programs across the country.
Speaker 1: And this is when someone can law enforcement officer can
Speaker 1: just come to you and stop you for any reason
Speaker 1: and frisk you. A lot of people already live in
Speaker 1: stopping frisk areas, whether it's legal or not, of harassment
Speaker 1: like this. We just saw what happened with Sonya Massey,
Speaker 1: which Angela talked a bit about last week. He also
Speaker 1: wants to abolish the cash bail system. We don't have
Speaker 1: to recount how many people have been negatively and adversely
Speaker 1: impacted by that, from Khalif Browder to the names that
Speaker 1: you've never heard who were just in prison because they
Speaker 1: couldn't afford bail. He wants to overhaul the Department of
Speaker 1: Education to allow miners to be disciplined. This is the
Speaker 1: quote unquote pro Life party who purportedly cares so much
Speaker 1: about children. He wants to take federal tax dollars and
Speaker 1: create something called American University that's free education. And you
Speaker 1: can imagine with the wars on things they're imagined boogeyman
Speaker 1: of critical race theory that really isn't taught in K
Speaker 1: through twelve, they want to ban things like that at
Speaker 1: this American University. I can't imagine what they would teach.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of dangerous policy, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to exactly and I wanted to point out the crime
Speaker 1: part of this, because there's a significant number of people
Speaker 1: out there who misattribute Vice President Harris's record as a prosecutor.
Speaker 1: And one of those people, well is my friend. I
Speaker 1: love you, brother, and I appreciate what you did. And
Speaker 1: that's d o Hugh Glee. And he has since informed
Speaker 1: and educated himself and taken it upon himself to help
Speaker 1: educate voters and his listeners. So if we can, I
Speaker 1: want you all to take a listen to what Doo
Speaker 1: hughgly said and we'll talk about it on the other side.
Speaker 5: I have said before, I used to repeat to some
Speaker 5: of the same things at nauseum that people are right now.
Speaker 5: Oh well, she blocked up a lot of black men.
Speaker 5: I lived in this state my whole life. I had
Speaker 5: an occasion to talk to her on several occasions. I
Speaker 5: accused her on this radio station, on this network of
Speaker 5: the same things that people are doing right now. If
Speaker 5: you are the people right now who are misquoting her record,
Speaker 5: we are not the same. If you believe that her
Speaker 5: locking people up from weed is worse than a man
Speaker 5: who says he wants to give Adope Talers the definitely
Speaker 5: we are not the same.
Speaker 6: If you want me to remember her.
Speaker 5: Past but not Trump's past, were not the same. If
Speaker 5: you want to remind me of her record but don't
Speaker 5: want to talk about Project twenty twenty five. Have you
Speaker 5: ever known the same black people that want to tell
Speaker 5: you she sold all weed and locked all these people up.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you they don't believe the twenty twenty five
Speaker 5: as Trunk's plan for a second for a second term.
Speaker 5: There is a reason for that. If you're telling me
Speaker 5: you're not gonna vote for her because she has a
Speaker 5: white husband, then we're not the same. Well, she ain't
Speaker 5: black enough.
Speaker 7: I tell you what.
Speaker 5: She's a black woman. She went to Oakland, She's from Oakland.
Speaker 5: She went to an HBCU. She's an aka. She had
Speaker 5: a boyfriend named Willie, and she.
Speaker 4: Got a name.
Speaker 5: First name is hard for everybody. Pronounced it sounds different
Speaker 5: than it's failed. That's black enough for me. But what
Speaker 5: I do know for sure is that she can win
Speaker 5: if we decide it is so.
Speaker 1: I mean, Viols a comedian, So obviously there were some
Speaker 1: jokes there, but very serious message Andrew, and I feel
Speaker 1: like he was directing this towards a lot of black men.
Speaker 1: Curious your thoughts and what is like the chatter you
Speaker 1: here talk about your issues?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, Because I'm this personal regard to him,
Speaker 3: I do appreciate Fairs the example of learning from your
Speaker 3: past mistakes and being better and hopefully on the pursuit
Speaker 3: of continued betterment as we all should be, and moreover,
Speaker 3: hopefully setting an example for all of us that when
Speaker 3: we get it wrong, that we can, as loudly as
Speaker 3: we call out our wrongness, can loudly pronounce what is right.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate from him that example may continue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I take issue with a couple of things here too.
Speaker 4: I think it's important when we strive to fact check
Speaker 4: that we don't throw out things that also are a
Speaker 4: little incorrect, and even the highlight about Willie I deeply, deeply,
Speaker 4: deeply hate and I wish that he didn't. It's so petty,
Speaker 4: It's so petty and unnecessary. It gives them ammunition for
Speaker 4: something that we don't need. This is, you know, we're
Speaker 4: in a campaign season where I often say it's a
Speaker 4: political war where on another channel they can call Kamala
Speaker 4: the original hawk tool girl, right, So why are we
Speaker 4: feeding into any of that? Like I wish that he
Speaker 4: hadn't done that, I will also say that I wish
Speaker 4: that he'd said the actual number of people that were
Speaker 4: locked up for marijuana charges while Kamala Harris was DA
Speaker 4: was forty five people? Is that too many? Before? You know,
Speaker 4: marijuana was legal in some states? Arguably right, forty five.
Speaker 4: But let's compare that record to every other prosecutor in
Speaker 4: the country. Let's compare it to see how she did.
Speaker 4: And if you look at the things that she said,
Speaker 4: whether it was at the State of the Black Union,
Speaker 4: at Howard or was while she was running for office,
Speaker 4: she was a very progressive prosecutor at that time, and
Speaker 4: I think that her Senate record fulfills that legacy of
Speaker 4: being very progressive, progressive on criminal justice reform, on police reform,
Speaker 4: on voting rights, on black maternal health, on how we
Speaker 4: earn education, and how we earn a living. She has
Speaker 4: been extraordinarily progressive. And by that I'm not just talking
Speaker 4: about liberal right, I'm talking about someone who's thinking about
Speaker 4: the ways to move us forward.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you all added to what doo
Speaker 1: Heagley was trying to do. I do think it was
Speaker 1: with good intention, but I definitely I'm hearing you, guys.
Speaker 1: But we got a lot more to talk about because
Speaker 1: I Donald Trump, by the time you guys listen to
Speaker 1: this podcast, will be speaking to the National Association of
Speaker 1: Black Journalists, and I got a bone to pick about that.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna pay some bills and pick this conversation
Speaker 1: up on the other side. So we have been talking
Speaker 1: about this a lot in our group chat, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you guys. So the National Association of Black Journalists invited
Speaker 1: both presidential candidates to speak to their convention, which is
Speaker 1: happening this week in Chicago, Illinois. That in Harris had
Speaker 1: a scheduling conflict because she's campaigning, so she you know,
Speaker 1: offered what she could reportedly She offered a video, to
Speaker 1: which NABJA declined, and Donald Trump has offered to show up.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I think she offered as well a live chat sort.
Speaker 1: Of join remote, and they declined, and so Donald Trump
Speaker 1: accepted to be there in person to be interviewed by
Speaker 1: three journalists. I put that in quotes because one of
Speaker 1: those journalists is Harris Faulkner, who is from Fox News,
Speaker 1: and we all know that the challenges with that. I
Speaker 1: just want to say I do not agree with this decision.
Speaker 1: I strongly condemn it. Again, I understand that this has
Speaker 1: been the tradition of NABJ for a long time. You
Speaker 1: invite both presidential candidates, but to treat this like it's
Speaker 1: a normal election, like Donald Trump is a normal candidate.
Speaker 1: To me, this is what happens when black reporters take
Speaker 1: on the personality of white run newsrooms and then start
Speaker 1: moving with white sensibility. Donald Trump has been insulting to journalists,
Speaker 1: all journalists, but specific journalists in particular April Ryan, longtime
Speaker 1: NABJ member, Johnny Alsendor, longtime NABJ member, Jamel Hill, longtime
Speaker 1: Machete member and NABJ member, and our girl. He actually
Speaker 1: called for her to be fired while he was president.
Speaker 1: It is so disrespectful. There is a whole contingency of
Speaker 1: an LGBTQ task force. He is very or his administration,
Speaker 1: his policies are very anti LGBTQ. This is a place
Speaker 1: when we gather where we feel safe, and they have
Speaker 1: disrupted that. I don't like it. I don't like it
Speaker 1: at all. I think it's disrespectful and an embarrassment to
Speaker 1: NABJ and to me, they have increasingly proved they are
Speaker 1: less relevant today by making decisions like this. But Angela,
Speaker 1: I know you have thoughts, Andrew, you have thoughts, Angela,
Speaker 1: what do you think about it?
Speaker 4: I think, first, NABJ continues to be disappointment. I actually
Speaker 4: posted last night that this, to me is an extension
Speaker 4: of the harm that they themselves caused by not asking
Speaker 4: questions after your show was canceled three days before the
Speaker 4: election in November and they refused to really engage. And
Speaker 4: I think, to me, when you can't ask tough questions
Speaker 4: of networks, but you can ask softball questions in a
Speaker 4: range for a white supremacist, an insurrectionist, a terrorist, and
Speaker 4: a serial offender, questions because he said he wants to
Speaker 4: show up and he wants to know what the hell
Speaker 4: do we have to lose. I think that's highly problematic.
Speaker 4: You have an historic candidate who can't come because she's
Speaker 4: going to the funeral of a Congressional Black Caucus member,
Speaker 4: Sheila Jackson Lee, where Kamala Harris was very active as
Speaker 4: a member. You would think that they would understand the situation.
Speaker 4: I think moreover, you know, if they're to be fair
Speaker 4: to Kamala Harris's campaign, they did release a statement saying
Speaker 4: that all Donald Trump is gonna get up there and
Speaker 4: do is lie about the accomplishments he's made and done
Speaker 4: on behalf of black people. So I hope that they
Speaker 4: will rethink inviting her virtually so she can speak to
Speaker 4: the Zeta, so she can go to s jl's funeral
Speaker 4: and God rest her soul, but also be more mindful
Speaker 4: about what our obligations are as black people in media,
Speaker 4: as black journalists to cover. But this is exactly what
Speaker 4: Tip said. It's a safe space for her. Ain't never
Speaker 4: been a safe space for me. So I don't go there.
Speaker 4: I wish you all the best, and I hope maybe
Speaker 4: real soon, maybe this commision you elect better stronger leadership,
Speaker 4: that actually has integrity and knows what journalistic standards are
Speaker 4: all about, with the remembering first to do no harm,
Speaker 4: especially to your DU's pay members.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I've gone, and also not only have I gone,
Speaker 1: but I in different capacities professionally. I've funneled a lot
Speaker 1: of money to an ABJ because they function on sponsorship
Speaker 1: and contributions, and it's worth no voting. When they were
Speaker 1: vocal behind the scenes to me when everything went down
Speaker 1: with my show, they were silent publicly. It's worth noting
Speaker 1: that they take quite a bit of money from NBC Universal,
Speaker 1: So I don't know beyond those facts. That's what I'll say.
Speaker 4: When they select, they select which hands they gonna bite
Speaker 4: that feed them. You see what I'm saying. So a
Speaker 4: duce fand member they'll bite, a sponsor they won't, And
Speaker 4: hopefully all of our organizations can do better there. I
Speaker 4: know we got some conversations they have that our family talk, correct.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's real. I have to say. It
Speaker 3: does it does hurt when we have organizations like in
Speaker 3: the National Associated Black Associational Black Journalists who I think
Speaker 3: I probably connected most Tiffany to your comments about taking
Speaker 3: on and replicating white infrastructure and you know, a majority
Speaker 3: thinking methodology, when your existence might be different in this space.
Speaker 3: For instance, if what you exist to do is to
Speaker 3: perpetuate the same harm that's been perpetuated amongst you in white,
Speaker 3: largely white rooms of journalisms, of the of where the
Speaker 3: paper gets cut, where decisions get made, where editorial decisions
Speaker 3: to either prop up your byline or not, you know,
Speaker 3: are determined, it would just seem to me that you
Speaker 3: wouldn't then seek to replicate similar types of harm. That
Speaker 3: maybe it is worth asking why did we need to
Speaker 3: be set a part separate apart from the majority organization
Speaker 3: that exists in our honor and our name as journalists?
Speaker 3: What do we have to do differently to show up
Speaker 3: in this space that we don't have free license to
Speaker 3: do and therefore we need each other's backing in support
Speaker 3: to do. We don't create these organizations as a side
Speaker 3: just to be as sides. By and large, these separate
Speaker 3: organizations which cater largely to minority groups, groups that are underseen, underheard, promoted,
Speaker 3: and undersupport it needs spaces by which they get to
Speaker 3: experience that. And I'll just say, as a candidate for
Speaker 3: a state wide office in a state where black people
Speaker 3: are less than twelve percent of the state's population. It
Speaker 3: mattered to me when there were zero black journalists in
Speaker 3: the state wide press court covering politics. It mattered to
Speaker 3: me that the types of questions that I had to answer,
Speaker 3: the source of lambasting that I got from air editorial pages,
Speaker 3: by comparison to my opponents, who were far worse, I mean,
Speaker 3: just worse creatures, worse humans. I attribute to the fact
Speaker 3: that that there were people writing about this who had
Speaker 3: no sense or sensibility about what shared experience, because there
Speaker 3: was no shared experience that might exist on my road
Speaker 3: to leadership versus somebody else's. So when I draw back
Speaker 3: from this, it is I think it is important to
Speaker 3: have spaces like NABJ, But it's only important to me
Speaker 3: to the extent that they're helping to level the systems
Speaker 3: that so often level us in these professions. And I
Speaker 3: know good people who associate here, and I know they're
Speaker 3: not time wasters, They're people who are good at what
Speaker 3: it is that they do. I would seriously. I saw
Speaker 3: the president, one of the presidents or co chairs or whatever,
Speaker 3: on an interview on television earlier, and his comportment was
Speaker 3: so dismissive of the president of Kamala Harris, including referring
Speaker 3: to her as Kamala. Now, I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: longtime friends, but given the under which he spoke, of
Speaker 3: which he spoke, I have to assume probably not. Maybe
Speaker 3: they've never spoke. Maybe they are not friends, maybe they
Speaker 3: don't know each other life not friends.
Speaker 4: He had on a black undershirt. We talked about that
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 3: And therefore it might make sense, it might make sense
Speaker 3: to respectfully refer to her as vice president. He has
Speaker 3: no clue either way.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Andrew.
Speaker 3: We have to be better, do better. And to the
Speaker 3: extent that these organizations just become replicas of their majorities institutions,
Speaker 3: then it is of little use it as far as
Speaker 3: I'm concerned. And to the extent that you then rise
Speaker 3: up to level the systems that have kept you a pressing.
Speaker 1: In front of you're talking about the vice president of
Speaker 1: the United States and you're giving a press conference to reporters,
Speaker 1: you're speaking to reporters, and he was calling her Kamala
Speaker 1: like they just got a phone yesterday. I thought it
Speaker 1: was disrespectful, But I know there are people who have
Speaker 1: a challenge saying her name Angela. Yes, it's not me,
Speaker 1: Kamala and all this, and they do that right. It's
Speaker 1: not a mistake. It's with intention.
Speaker 3: I heard, I heard Doug has some advice for you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely got some gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Not just for them, but for the man who was
Speaker 4: once commander in chief, much to our chagrin.
Speaker 3: Wh we roll that real quick, Nick, Well, I can't
Speaker 3: wait to hear it.
Speaker 4: You see my times real quick wrote that real quick me.
Speaker 6: Mister Trump, I know you have so much trouble pronouncing,
Speaker 6: but here's the good news.
Speaker 3: After the election, you can just call her Madam President.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: That's easy.
Speaker 4: And here's the point.
Speaker 1: Doug's going hard with the bars.
Speaker 4: I just figured, I keep going go ahead to.
Speaker 1: I like your fretyle, I like your keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: Give it to a hater, such a hater. Okay, can
Speaker 1: I tell y'all. I'm not going to get into it,
Speaker 1: but let me just tell y'all. So when we were
Speaker 1: on vacation, Angela dropped a five minute freestyle that was
Speaker 1: off the dome that was so good. And there is
Speaker 1: a video I don't know that released.
Speaker 4: Nerves be released, but just what I tell you. It was, y'all.
Speaker 1: It was dope.
Speaker 4: It was it was Okay, it got kind of rough
Speaker 4: on that third verse, but it was to the bankers.
Speaker 4: I apologize the remix for all my machetes. I apollo,
Speaker 4: and I'll leave it there.
Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta take another break. But before we go
Speaker 1: to break, Angela, I I just want to because we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about more challenges on the other side, and
Speaker 1: I think we're halfway through the show. I would like
Speaker 1: to introduce a little bit of hope into the conversation,
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been feeling apathetic and I didn't
Speaker 1: see this, but you were telling us when we were
Speaker 1: on the phone this morning that Senator Rafael Warnock had
Speaker 1: something sweet to say. Apparently we did.
Speaker 4: We got We gotta run that thing for all the
Speaker 4: future and the kids that we have now out in
Speaker 4: the world, especially Andrews three, who he has locked up
Speaker 4: during the podcast. But they shall see freedom just like food,
Speaker 4: and they're comfortable at home. There's air conditioning. But I'm
Speaker 4: gonna I've read my niece and my nephews to get
Speaker 4: ice cream through Apple Bay after this, and we'll be
Speaker 4: back after this break.
Speaker 3: Oh, Lord.
Speaker 8: So I sat down and I wrote a letter.
Speaker 1: To my five year old daughter.
Speaker 8: She was five at the time, Chloe, and I said,
Speaker 8: dear Chloe. Today we confirmed to the United States Supreme
Speaker 8: Court Justice Kataja Brown Jackson in the history of our nation.
Speaker 8: She's the first Supreme Court justice who looks like you,
Speaker 8: with hair like yours. As we were confirming her, a
Speaker 8: friend of mine, the Vice President, suggested that I write
Speaker 8: a letter. By the way, she's the first vice president
Speaker 8: who looks like you. I write to say that in America,
Speaker 8: you can be anything you set your head and your
Speaker 8: heart to beat.
Speaker 3: Love that.
Speaker 8: I wrote that letter to my five year old daughter.
Speaker 8: I was so caught up with enthusiasm. I called on
Speaker 8: FaceTime to read the letter. She's five years old. She
Speaker 8: listened to the letter. She was not impressed. She said,
Speaker 8: can I go out and play now? She didn't understand
Speaker 8: that letter then, but she don't understanding in.
Speaker 5: A few years.
Speaker 1: I wrote that letter to my daughter.
Speaker 8: But Georgia, America, now is our time to write a
Speaker 8: letter to all of our children.
Speaker 1: Now is our time to write a letter to the future.
Speaker 3: All Right, So y'all know, you know, you know how
Speaker 3: I feel about these tech credits. I think I drop
Speaker 3: a mention of it nearly every episode, but I'm mentioning
Speaker 3: it today as JD Vance I think earlier this week
Speaker 3: in an interview, alluded to the fact that because Vice
Speaker 3: President Harris didn't have any kids, you know, the whole
Speaker 3: kitten child. Yeah, but Betty references her not having any
Speaker 3: biological children means that she would not have been four,
Speaker 3: alluding to the fact that she would not have been four,
Speaker 3: or in favor of extending the child tax credit increase,
Speaker 3: which is blooney, ludicrous, you know, any other word we
Speaker 3: can think of. But I did want to note that
Speaker 3: Senate Majority Leader Schumer decided to put on this week's
Speaker 3: agenda before the US Senate goes on its August recess,
Speaker 3: actually ring up that text credit relief for American families
Speaker 3: and just for those of us who haven't followed it
Speaker 3: closely back in January. The end of January, a bipartisan
Speaker 3: group of votes from Republicans and Democrats passed out of
Speaker 3: the House with three hundred and fifty seven votes tax
Speaker 3: relief for American workers and families, and a sentinel piece
Speaker 3: of it was expanding the child tax credit to cover
Speaker 3: sixteen million kids from low income and middle income families,
Speaker 3: lifting y'all over five hundred thousand children out of poverty,
Speaker 3: and just real quick, what it would have done and
Speaker 3: what it will do if it passes is the bill
Speaker 3: will raise the cap on the child tax credit for
Speaker 3: low income families, making all two thousand dollars now per
Speaker 3: chiut eligible for them to claim as part of their
Speaker 3: tax credit. And as you recall from the COVID relief package,
Speaker 3: those tax credit refunds came in phases so that folks
Speaker 3: didn't have to wait until reinging up and completing their
Speaker 3: tax work at the next at the start of the
Speaker 3: new year before they can recoup the benefits. The other
Speaker 3: thing that it did is the bill will stop the
Speaker 3: long standing discrimination against low income families who have multiple
Speaker 3: kids from being able to claim the entire two thousand
Speaker 3: per child. Before the government required if you were a
Speaker 3: low income family with multiple children, that you get the
Speaker 3: first two thousand on one kid and then it will
Speaker 3: go down appreciably for a future for other children. Again
Speaker 3: a penalty on those families who have multiple multiple children children.
Speaker 3: I think most folks who are watching this are not
Speaker 3: optimistic that it will gain the kind of Republican support
Speaker 3: that it's going to need the sixty vote threshold that
Speaker 3: it will need to cross over in the US Senate.
Speaker 3: But my hope is is that this is a piece
Speaker 3: of legislation that will be picked up before this Congress
Speaker 3: moves into a lame duck session or out of a
Speaker 3: lame duck session, and then it is recessed and the
Speaker 3: process would have to start, as you know, all over again.
Speaker 3: For those of you families at home who are following this,
Speaker 3: many refer to it as the Widen Smith Tax Reform
Speaker 3: and Relief Package. Please please, please, please please continue to
Speaker 3: follow it. Pressure members is incredibly important and again has
Speaker 3: the benefit of lifting over a half a million children
Speaker 3: immediately out of the federal poverty standards. It's it's it's huge, y'all.
Speaker 3: If it could could pait so well.
Speaker 1: The Democrats have the Senate, so I you know, think
Speaker 1: it probably has a good chance of passing.
Speaker 3: But Andrew, honestly, well, it's got across the filibuster threshold.
Speaker 3: That's where we are now, is that it won't cross
Speaker 3: the sixty the sixty voats that are necessary. Even though
Speaker 3: there is Republican support for this piece of legislation sponsored
Speaker 3: by both the Senate, by both the Senate Republican and
Speaker 3: a House and a Senate.
Speaker 1: So people really do need to press their elected representatives
Speaker 1: to make sure absolutely. Andrew, honestly, I'm really happy that
Speaker 1: you brought this up, because you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: the echo chambers I complain about every week if they
Speaker 1: focus on the same three story, same three sound bites,
Speaker 1: and it really is just an echo chamber of what
Speaker 1: we already know. If you watch the news at nine am,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear the same thing by five pm if
Speaker 1: there's no breaking news. But in this particular case, there
Speaker 1: hasn't even been a lot of coverage on this in
Speaker 1: print media, and I gonna say none, but there hasn't
Speaker 1: been a lot as much as it should be. And
Speaker 1: I think sometimes if we focus on policy and informing
Speaker 1: the audience, everybody has an opinion. I don't really give
Speaker 1: a damn about everybody's opinion all the time. So these
Speaker 1: constant opinion panels that we see you leave and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know how these who gives a shit people feel
Speaker 1: I did not learn anything. And so this is something
Speaker 1: that has an impact on a huge pocket of the country.
Speaker 1: That we virtually heard nothing about. So that's why you
Speaker 1: tune in a native land, because we don't just opine.
Speaker 1: We try our best to inform. So I'm happy that
Speaker 1: that we talked about that. I think it's hugely important.
Speaker 1: Can I I just want to shift a little bit.
Speaker 1: I kind of love and I am enjoying that. The
Speaker 1: Republicans are absolutely shook, like they don't know how to
Speaker 1: deal with the black woman at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 1: They don't know how attack her, they don't know how
Speaker 1: to vibe with her. Donald Trump said, did y'all know
Speaker 1: she was sixty? I thought she was younger? Yeah, baby,
Speaker 1: because we a's like fine wine, okay, like y'll never
Speaker 1: know how old we are.
Speaker 3: But I want you to you. You see, he didn't
Speaker 3: make that comment about his vice president right exactly, because.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I thought David Vance was about fifty and he
Speaker 1: is not. But I want I want you all to
Speaker 1: listen to what jd Vance said. Now he does not
Speaker 1: know he's being recorded. This was at a fundraising event
Speaker 1: and someone recorded the audio of what he said about
Speaker 1: Vice President Harris entering the race. So take a listen
Speaker 1: and we'll discuss it on the other side.
Speaker 9: All of us were hit with a little bit of
Speaker 9: a political suffer punch. The badges is that Kamala Harris
Speaker 9: does not have the same baggage as Joe Biden, because
Speaker 9: whatever we might say, Kala Harris is a lot younger
Speaker 9: and Kamala Harris is obviously not struggling in the same
Speaker 9: way as that Joe Biden did.
Speaker 1: Is this a campaign for the hair? What it sounded
Speaker 1: like to me? And I just think it speaks to
Speaker 1: uh that that we are such an impenetrable force that
Speaker 1: they really don't know how to deal with us. Angela,
Speaker 1: you expressed you have won me over on another perspective
Speaker 1: that you had, and that is about Secretary Pete Boudage Edge.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really made the rounds. He went on
Speaker 1: The Daily Show, which I do watch, I did not
Speaker 1: in real time watch his interview with Fox News. You
Speaker 1: know how I feel about people going on Fox News.
Speaker 1: He went on Fox News Sunday and was an amazing
Speaker 1: communicator and very compelling. I don't know how many Fox
Speaker 1: News viewers were receptive, but when I was watching, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is what Angela was saying, Like, go
Speaker 1: on there and beat them at their own game. Did
Speaker 1: you see that interview or see any of the stuff
Speaker 1: that he's been doing this week?
Speaker 4: I did not see it, but I know we have
Speaker 4: a clip, So why don't we roll that clip and
Speaker 4: then talk about it on the other side.
Speaker 10: Perfect, That's a real reason I think she's going to win.
Speaker 10: That most Americans already agree with her on the issues
Speaker 10: that they care about the most. Her stance on defending
Speaker 10: a woman's right to choose versus Donald Trump, who eliminated
Speaker 10: a right to choose in this country, well in the States,
Speaker 10: be fair, Let's be very clear. He is proud of
Speaker 10: the fact that he demolished the national right to choose
Speaker 10: in this country, period. And our country has watched our
Speaker 10: president lead, and yes, we've also seen the fact that
Speaker 10: he's ten years older than he was ten years ago.
Speaker 10: But unlike Republicans will take a look at Donald Trump
Speaker 10: and say he's perfectly fine, even though he seemed unable
Speaker 10: to tell the difference between Nicky Haley and Nancy Pelosi,
Speaker 10: even though he's rambling about electrocuting sharks and Hannibal Lecter.
Speaker 10: They say he's strong as an ox leaps tall buildings
Speaker 10: in a single bound. Well, we don't have that kind
Speaker 10: of warped reality on our side. On the contrary, the
Speaker 10: President confronted that reality in what must have been one
Speaker 10: of the most difficult decisions for an American president to
Speaker 10: make ever, and he did something that I don't think
Speaker 10: Donald Trump could even conceive of doing, which is putting
Speaker 10: his own interests aside for the country, trying to make
Speaker 10: people think that crime is up when crime is down
Speaker 10: under Joe Biden and crime was up under Donald Trump. Now,
Speaker 10: I don't know how often that gets reported on this network.
Speaker 10: So if you're watching this at home, do yourself a
Speaker 10: favor and look up the data.
Speaker 3: That great.
Speaker 10: So if you look this up at home, you will
Speaker 10: know that crime went down under Biden and crime went
Speaker 10: up under Trump. And I think the violent crime for sure.
Speaker 1: Yah.
Speaker 3: I think they not going to have her interview him again.
Speaker 1: Circles around that home.
Speaker 9: Let me take that.
Speaker 3: I think they retired here.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something at church, since I just
Speaker 4: called his lady at home. At church, they say, if
Speaker 4: you can't say a word, just wave your hand, secretary.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you Andrew, she said she cannot get
Speaker 4: a word in edgewise, and he got her so good.
Speaker 4: So this is my point. When you are strong on facts,
Speaker 4: when you know you're material, you go and you demolish
Speaker 4: the opposition.
Speaker 3: That is what you do.
Speaker 4: That is why Kamala Harris will go on the debate
Speaker 4: stage without Donald Trump, because she's still gonna stand on
Speaker 4: the strength of the facts. We do not have to
Speaker 4: be intimidated by Fox. Sure, it's nonsense, but people are
Speaker 4: watching that nonsense wall to wall coverage every single day.
Speaker 4: Go and be a disruptor. Sometimes, go and meet people
Speaker 4: where they are in their conspiracy theories, break down the
Speaker 4: myths behind all of those conspiracy theories, and do it
Speaker 4: with grace and class if you can. I already told
Speaker 4: y'all my ministry is not Fox News. I can't go
Speaker 4: on there. I'm gonna lose my whole career. But some
Speaker 4: of y'all can go on there with grace and clarity
Speaker 4: and conviction and fact check them and keep the host
Speaker 4: from even being able to get a word in edgewise.
Speaker 1: I think it's great, but he's a very I don't
Speaker 1: think the vice president should go on there. I do,
Speaker 1: like I know, I know.
Speaker 3: He's been doing this for a long time. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: a long time, and for a long time they were
Speaker 3: paired with interviewers who would would filibuster them to death
Speaker 3: so that they couldn't get complete thoughts all the way in.
Speaker 3: That was the power of that network. I've experienced at firsthand,
Speaker 3: where they interrupt and sort of you know, talk, you know,
Speaker 3: right over you. But I do think he's particularly skilled
Speaker 3: and would be skilled of that. And I'm not advocating
Speaker 3: for him to be the vice president's choice. I think I,
Speaker 3: you know, opined about who I thought should get it,
Speaker 3: you know, the last time we talked about this. But
Speaker 3: I think he's skilled, and I do think we ought
Speaker 3: to have surrogate voices on Andrew.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you this, do you think, as
Speaker 4: a former candidate, someone who successfully run multiple elections, multiple cycles,
Speaker 4: do you see any any any good coming out of
Speaker 4: a candidate going on a network that is not in
Speaker 4: favor of that candidate.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I do. I mean I went places you did
Speaker 3: all the time where we were not expected to show
Speaker 3: up and people respected you, even if they didn't agree
Speaker 3: with you, with showing up and treating them with respect
Speaker 3: enough to share your opinion, your thoughts and maybe contemplate
Speaker 3: their reaction and their response to it. So there's there's
Speaker 3: no doubt. But but but I, but I, I don't
Speaker 3: think we ought to get wildly optimistic in the sense
Speaker 3: that there is a whole swath in this, in this
Speaker 3: era of of of Trumpia, who will suspend with with
Speaker 3: with their own belief, with their own experience, with with facts,
Speaker 3: so long as it comports with with his universally described
Speaker 3: knowledge of what America is. They will look at numbers
Speaker 3: as say, crime is down, violent crime is down to
Speaker 3: a record low. We are the most we are the
Speaker 3: largest most massive producer of oil, you know, unfortunately, of
Speaker 3: in any nation in the world, and we've produced more
Speaker 3: than the United States ever has in the history of
Speaker 3: the world. But they will look at that, and they'll
Speaker 3: listen to Trump say, we're gonna, you know, get our
Speaker 3: mojo back and produce more oil than we ever have. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna bring down crime because it's violent all
Speaker 3: over the place. Yeah. So it's I just don't want
Speaker 3: to delude us into thinking that there are whole swaths
Speaker 3: of Americans to be gained here by doing this. I
Speaker 3: don't think that's the reason not to do it, because
Speaker 3: I do think in close elections, you know, we can
Speaker 3: sway some folks and maybe in the right place is
Speaker 3: that one percent may make a difference. But we are,
Speaker 3: by and large, I think as a society really living
Speaker 3: in alternative universes. They're a venus and we're on Mars,
Speaker 3: and I think there has to be some coalescing of
Speaker 3: that and some recognition of truth in fact, if we're
Speaker 3: gonna make any advances in it. Right now, there is
Speaker 3: no recognizable truth, no recognizable fact.
Speaker 1: Do you think that resulted in tangible voters for you? Andrew?
Speaker 1: Sounds like you'd think it.
Speaker 3: Did I do because it got us closer than any
Speaker 3: other Democrat has in eighteen years running for governor of
Speaker 3: the state of Florida. And I wasn't like majority of them,
Speaker 3: and in most cases it didn't look like any of
Speaker 3: the previous nominees. But I actually think where we do
Speaker 3: best is when we go to the places that are
Speaker 3: most susceptible to our message. The people who want, who
Speaker 3: really want to believe, but their life example so far
Speaker 3: hasn't hasn't given them great reason to believe, or to
Speaker 3: organize or to vote, and start to give them real
Speaker 3: reason to show up. It's the difference that a polster
Speaker 3: makes between going after a registered voter who is a
Speaker 3: Republican versus a non registered voter who, if they were registered,
Speaker 3: would vote Democratic. They're always going to go with the
Speaker 3: one that's registered because it's closer to the action that
Speaker 3: you want them to pursue, which is voting, rather than
Speaker 3: the one who has a register and then choose to
Speaker 3: show up. And what I'm suggesting is is Buddhases and
Speaker 3: others ought to make sure that they're readily and repeatedly
Speaker 3: in forums of constistuencies that want to believe that want
Speaker 3: to go and do this thing, but they need the
Speaker 3: extra push, the extra pool to do it well.
Speaker 1: Some would say you won that election, but that's a
Speaker 1: conversation that we always have here. Before we go to
Speaker 1: a break, I want to play this listener comment because
Speaker 1: they're talking about what it takes to up that GOTV game.
Speaker 1: So let's take a listen. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if this person gave their name, but they're talking
Speaker 1: about battleground states in the words the Angela Nick roll
Speaker 1: the right quick.
Speaker 11: So I'm sitting here on the puge sound thinking about
Speaker 11: anybody that can hear my voice on an idea that
Speaker 11: I think will bring out voter participation five or eight
Speaker 11: four battleground states specifically, but all in general. Artists that
Speaker 11: are from there, musicians, athletes come together at a voterfest
Speaker 11: in those areas that we need desperately to have increased
Speaker 11: voter participation, notaries on site, food trucks, the whole nine
Speaker 11: those states that won't allow water across the street. Really,
Speaker 11: I think it could be a viable.
Speaker 4: Answer to the problem that we face.
Speaker 6: This is import tempt.
Speaker 11: That's why Angela Rah, you know where I'm at, Tiffany,
Speaker 11: we met Andrew?
Speaker 9: What up?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: I like the block party idea.
Speaker 4: What do you think Anthela just shout out to the hometown.
Speaker 4: I just want to remind of the viewers that marijuana
Speaker 4: is legal in Washington State. And the vibe that he
Speaker 4: was on, he had to be.
Speaker 1: He was going so slow.
Speaker 4: I was like, what is happening? Remember to say his name?
Speaker 4: He was like, Hey, what's that? You know where I'm at?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 3: Welcome?
Speaker 4: So there's a reason he had a shades on. His
Speaker 4: eyes were sending real low. Okay, but anyway, No, I
Speaker 4: really like the voter fest ideas. I think that there
Speaker 4: are friends of ours that run these kinds of events. Andrew,
Speaker 4: you certainly ran them on your campaign. Natasha Brown does.
Speaker 3: Them all them together, love the time Black.
Speaker 4: Parties they do it with local organizations on the ground
Speaker 4: and what do I call black battleground areas that are
Speaker 4: just as significant to us as battleground states. I also
Speaker 4: think Collective Pack is doing some of that work. And
Speaker 4: what's the other one? There's another anyway, there are a
Speaker 4: bunch Black Pack higher Heights, there are a bunch.
Speaker 1: And so I do such a project.
Speaker 4: Yes, thanks, Tiff, I'm sure Andrew got something you can
Speaker 4: name too. There are a lot of entities that do
Speaker 4: this work. So I love the idea. My friend and
Speaker 4: Puget sound next time, I hope you give us your name,
Speaker 4: and I would encourage you to travel down south and
Speaker 4: catch our friends doing some of this work all the time.
Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe we can have one here.
Speaker 3: Obviously the music piece is the influence of celebrity. All
Speaker 3: there very important, certainly techniques that we tried in our
Speaker 3: campaign to stimulate vote voter turnout, but it can none
Speaker 3: of that, just to put it plainly, can replace what
Speaker 3: it means for you. The individual you brother on Future
Speaker 3: Sound going to five other people who you know motivate,
Speaker 3: registering them and then moving them to the ballot box.
Speaker 3: There's no influence on planet Earth as powerful as the
Speaker 3: personal network of you to your five friends, ten friends,
Speaker 3: whomever it is that you choose to influence. And that's
Speaker 3: why we've been trying to really sharpen and harp on
Speaker 3: this message of a ride with five you and five others.
Speaker 3: Make that the team that you're responsible for, and I
Speaker 3: promise you will see the results if all of us
Speaker 3: committed to do just that far.
Speaker 1: I love all those ideas, but in the meantime, keep
Speaker 1: enjoying those trees. If that's what you were in fact doing.
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 11: Come.
Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 6: What's that family? My name is Michael. I'm a nineteen
Speaker 6: year old college students studying political science at the university
Speaker 6: in the Metro Atlantic area. I have followed all of
Speaker 6: you for many years, since I was in middle school actually,
Speaker 6: and throughout all of you all's trials and tribulations, it
Speaker 6: has only continue to inspire me to keep going, to
Speaker 6: keep fighting, continue to speak up for marginalized groups in
Speaker 6: our country. And for that I can never say thank
Speaker 6: you enough. But right now I'm at a crossroad. So
Speaker 6: the question is who do I need to be reaching
Speaker 6: out to at the local, state, and federal levels to
Speaker 6: join the fight. What do I need to be asking
Speaker 6: them at these levels to constantly be providing folks with
Speaker 6: true information instead of misinformation so that way they can
Speaker 6: make the best decision for themselves. In this country come
Speaker 6: November twenty twenty four, it is not common for me
Speaker 6: to find young people who are willing to speak out
Speaker 6: and represent for most of the younger community. But I
Speaker 6: also am trying to figure out where to start because
Speaker 6: I'm still a novice and to feel, quite frankly, but
Speaker 6: that that's not going to silence me. It's not going
Speaker 6: to stop me, it won't break me. I will not
Speaker 6: become complacent. Thanks in advance for you all support and
Speaker 6: your guidance. Love y'all.
Speaker 4: Welcome home, Michael, I love this so much.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: First of all, that letter that Rafael Warnock wrote to
Speaker 4: his daughter, I think that there's some inspiration in there
Speaker 4: for you too. I am thrilled that you are this
Speaker 4: involved in the process. Tiff is atl fam and Andrew
Speaker 4: is close enough, so I think they should definitely weigh
Speaker 4: in here, but I just got a little shameless plug
Speaker 4: real quick. I have a professional development program where we
Speaker 4: spend time on developing the activism muscles of young black folks.
Speaker 4: I hope that you will continue consider joining that because
Speaker 4: I think you'll find a lot of folks who are
Speaker 4: like minded. Michael, and thank you for following us. Since
Speaker 4: you were a small tot. It makes us feel old,
Speaker 4: but we're glad you're young.
Speaker 1: There's a place he should go.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's always up on the applications open up
Speaker 4: and it's on my Instagram, Okay, at Angela.
Speaker 1: Rai cohort, and they are quite impressive, so I love it.
Speaker 1: It's was it Michael, Yes, Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was his name. Okay, Michael one. We are exceedingly
Speaker 3: proud of you, brother. And what I love about Angela's
Speaker 3: Fellowship is, yes, it is a place to plug in.
Speaker 3: But the truth is is sometimes our leaders need leaders,
Speaker 3: and our leaders need inspiration. And when you get yourself
Speaker 3: in common company with people who are trying to impact
Speaker 3: and make the same change that you're trying to make,
Speaker 3: you'll find that it's much more difficult for you to
Speaker 3: feel downtrodden alone. Feeling like you want to check out,
Speaker 3: or any of those other things that you you've already
Speaker 3: committed to not enduring. But by and by those feelings
Speaker 3: do tend to creep up. And so when you have
Speaker 3: a way to plug in, and I think Angela's Fellowship
Speaker 3: offers a great option for it, please please police supply. Lastly,
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us wake up trying to
Speaker 3: make history any day of the week. I certainly didn't.
Speaker 3: I can't recall if I ever had a day where
Speaker 3: I woke up saying I'm gonna my goal is to
Speaker 3: make history. I was always steered toward making some kind
Speaker 3: of impact, some kind of change about something that I
Speaker 3: thought was not right, usually something that interacted my personal life.
Speaker 3: And so don't feel like you're not playing on the
Speaker 3: big boy or big girl feel because you know you're
Speaker 3: not creating laws or writing constitutions every day. That little
Speaker 3: thing that you think maybe little may be the one
Speaker 3: thing that catapults your next work into the stratosphere and
Speaker 3: recruits hundreds of thousands of people toward it. So so
Speaker 3: so act where you are. I mean, I promise you'll
Speaker 3: get you where you want to go. I wish you
Speaker 3: you know I wish you well.
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for specific people to join in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I have to say, first and foremost Latasha Brown, our
Speaker 1: good sister, Latasha Brown. She runs an organization, Black Voters Matter.
Speaker 1: I have never seen someone so committed to the call,
Speaker 1: so committed to the people. She has an extraordinary team,
Speaker 1: an extraordinary ground game, and she is plugged in with
Speaker 1: all of the organizations not only in Georgia but all
Speaker 1: across the country. They issue grants. So I would DM
Speaker 1: Black Voters Matter, or you could DM Latasha Brown herself.
Speaker 1: She's on social media Instagram, Twitter, But shoot her a
Speaker 1: DM and and somebody on her team. We'll get back
Speaker 1: back to you. We can flag it for her, so
Speaker 1: she'll be looking for your correspondence. But yeah, they are
Speaker 1: to me, just top notch, the with the purest intentions,
Speaker 1: and she just has like the soul of black folk
Speaker 1: in her heart. So that's my always go to starting point,
Speaker 1: not just for you, but for anybody looking to get
Speaker 1: in this fight. We have one more viewer question. Do
Speaker 1: we have time to get to that? Are y'all up
Speaker 1: for another one? Okay, So this one I think is Craig,
Speaker 1: you ain't got to lie, Craig, what you got to say.
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, this is Craig Knight coming out of Brooklyn,
Speaker 12: New York, and I'm on a podcast called the Six
Speaker 12: Degrees Podcast, and I just like to say, we're very
Speaker 12: inspired by what you do. So just in the spirit
Speaker 12: of that, just like you, guys have conversations outside of
Speaker 12: the podcast, so do we. One of my friends and
Speaker 12: I on the podcast, her name is Charlene.
Speaker 8: She thinks that.
Speaker 12: One of the reasons why the two party system, in
Speaker 12: her view, is impotent is because of what she calls
Speaker 12: white control trauma and white people's desire on the blue
Speaker 12: side and both the red and the blue side, because
Speaker 12: of their desire to control, has pretty much made.
Speaker 6: Voting sort of a non.
Speaker 12: Starter or non issue for black people because at the
Speaker 12: end of the day, they're always going to try to
Speaker 12: one control. So that's pretty much her theory on it.
Speaker 12: I'm not sure if I agree with it, but as
Speaker 12: you do, you disagree, we do too. Just want to
Speaker 12: get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 6: Also.
Speaker 12: One of the things that we do agree on as
Speaker 12: a panel, there's four of us. We also think that
Speaker 12: white voters on the red side, which is most of them,
Speaker 12: think that they have some kind of skin in the
Speaker 12: game if they vote for someone like Trump. But we
Speaker 12: think that the only skin that they have in the
Speaker 12: game is skin. So want to get your thoughts on
Speaker 12: that too.
Speaker 1: I like that question. Yeah, I think if you listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast, you know how we all feel. One
Speaker 1: thing that I have to say that really bothers me
Speaker 1: is when people are like, oh, y'all have some Democratic shields,
Speaker 1: and y'all, you know, regurgitating talking points and let me
Speaker 1: just say, the devil is a lie. Okay. None of
Speaker 1: us on here is trying to be a talking head
Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. The party don't ask me for nothing, okay,
Speaker 1: and I certainly don't offer anything. We are always focused
Speaker 1: on harm reduction to our pe people. If we're a
Speaker 1: member of any party, it is the Black People's Liberation Party,
Speaker 1: because we want to see ourselves function and thrive safely
Speaker 1: in this country. And I think you know our mission,
Speaker 1: our collective mission, but certainly my personal mission that I've
Speaker 1: talked about is for the equality and liberation of black
Speaker 1: people and all people of color. And the unique thing
Speaker 1: about that is when that happens, everyone benefits. Now, when
Speaker 1: it comes to the white population, in this country, there
Speaker 1: are outside of people under you know, the working class
Speaker 1: white people and poor white people are certainly impacted by
Speaker 1: the same adverse policies in which we're impacted. But it's
Speaker 1: not a bad time to be a white person ever,
Speaker 1: So there is some truth to that. You know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's a Republican administration or democratic administration. Previously,
Speaker 1: for a certain level of white person in this country,
Speaker 1: a college educated man, white man is not really impacted. Well, well,
Speaker 1: this proportionately the rest of society is. And so that's
Speaker 1: why I think sometimes you see on these cable news
Speaker 1: panels people are laughing and joking, and you go in
Speaker 1: the green room and everybody's laughing and talking. It's like
Speaker 1: if you just got off air saying something truly abhorrent
Speaker 1: and supporting Donald Trump, for example, I'm not key kiing
Speaker 1: and hahn with you in the green room, like you
Speaker 1: are the enemy of the people. And so it's not
Speaker 1: a game to us, it's not a sports as we're
Speaker 1: literally fighting for survival. So yes, this two party system
Speaker 1: is harmful to us. We did a whole podcast on
Speaker 1: third party candidates. I encourage you to have your friend
Speaker 1: watch that because we talk about how third parties could
Speaker 1: be impactful in this election. We're riding with Vice President Harris,
Speaker 1: but the third parties can certainly have an impact at
Speaker 1: the state and local level and eventually perhaps on the
Speaker 1: federal level as well. Y'all got anything on that.
Speaker 4: I just have a couple of notes. My suggestion as
Speaker 4: a fellow podcaster to my good friend Craig is don't
Speaker 4: put the light behind you you Unyes, you're going for
Speaker 4: a mystery feel. And since we tell everybody welcome home,
Speaker 4: I got to talk to him like family.
Speaker 3: I would tell you guys that, yeah, thank you, and
Speaker 3: no backlighting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't backlight unless you're given a mysterious vibe and.
Speaker 3: Which which totally could have been your mission, I could
Speaker 3: have been his mission.
Speaker 4: But I just, I'm just it's just a suggestion. I
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 3: Shout out to six degrees podcast, though, and I'm glad
Speaker 3: y'all are talking to each other, to friends and recruiting
Speaker 3: new listeners in the your sphere. Y'all know where I
Speaker 3: am on this, which is power power power. Power acts
Speaker 3: to protect power, power acts to maintain power, and people
Speaker 3: act in ways if they don't feel like they have
Speaker 3: the power they act in ways that get the most
Speaker 3: approximate to the power. And I think that's all people,
Speaker 3: and I think that's what we see happening in our
Speaker 3: political system. As one of my friends used to say,
Speaker 3: who was running for office wasn't a friend, was a
Speaker 3: colleague at the time. I'm not looking for everybody to vote.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for those who are voting for me to vote.
Speaker 3: And I think that's by and large how people who
Speaker 3: are running and maintaining office of thinking is. I don't
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to turn out an unknown. I'm not
Speaker 3: out here organizing just anybody. I'm organizing the people who
Speaker 3: I believe if they show up, they'll keep me in power.
Speaker 3: And you're voting for them because you're you're believing that
Speaker 3: you are approximate to the power, which means if they
Speaker 3: look out for themselves, then the next layer they're gonna
Speaker 3: look out for is you. And I get that, and
Speaker 3: I think that that's what has the other side most
Speaker 3: afraid that they will lose some closeness, some approximation to power,
Speaker 3: and then they won't have given the.
Speaker 1: Whole idea though about like you know, white control, I
Speaker 1: think Angela brought up something earlier about like going on
Speaker 1: Fox and how you know she might not be able
Speaker 1: to control her responses to them on Fox, and there
Speaker 1: is you know, some level to that I think I
Speaker 1: could handle Fox. I could you know, articulate an argument
Speaker 1: and debunk the ridiculous they say. But I do wonder
Speaker 1: sometimes she's these videos that go viral. People confronting you
Speaker 1: like that is the time, because you have to make
Speaker 1: a split second decision on how you're going to handle yourself.
Speaker 1: And one, you know, if if a white person is
Speaker 1: approaching you aggressively and you feel unsafe, and you feel
Speaker 1: threatened because they're in your space, you either have to
Speaker 1: decide to be dismissive. So if law enforcement shows up,
Speaker 1: they're gonna see this calm black woman sitting across from
Speaker 1: this irate, crazy white woman, or you have to immediately
Speaker 1: go spider monkey and let them know I ain't the one.
Speaker 1: And you pick the right one today. So we are
Speaker 1: going to revisit.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Andrew, I was just thinking the same
Speaker 4: thing I was gonna say. Ray Charles said it because
Speaker 4: you got.
Speaker 1: The right one. An important moment in black history. I
Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to the sound and
Speaker 1: you may remember.
Speaker 6: It, t.
Speaker 1: Rest, I'm still in moving boat.
Speaker 11: Moo.
Speaker 4: I just want to flag for the listeners, not the
Speaker 4: viewers that win. Sis says, get out there, young bucks.
Speaker 4: She was talking to the brother that jumped off the
Speaker 4: boat and like ram to help his colleague while he
Speaker 4: was about to throw them things. Y'all knew it was
Speaker 4: going down when he took that shirt off and was like,
Speaker 4: forget it on my money.
Speaker 1: I might alway Anniverse three you guys. One year ago
Speaker 1: on August fifth, twenty twenty three, the infamous or famous,
Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it, Montgomery Boat Brawl
Speaker 1: went down. We have dubbed it a holiday August teenth,
Speaker 1: and that was a revisited audio and I have watched that.
Speaker 1: I could reenact the whole thing. Probably. I've watched that
Speaker 1: tape about thirty times when I'm frustrated. I watched that tape.
Speaker 1: It was such a moment of unity amongst us.
Speaker 3: Collective yes impact, Yes.
Speaker 1: It was a collective impact. And I really think that's
Speaker 1: how we have to move as a community. You mess
Speaker 1: with one, you mess with all. I don't care if
Speaker 1: I don't know you. If I see something going down,
Speaker 1: I'm coming over my phone ready, to hear what happened
Speaker 1: with everything? Okay over here? I think people have to
Speaker 1: know because you only see white people act like that
Speaker 1: when they are not outnumbered. Then it's real gully. But
Speaker 1: if they know, I can't go over here and start
Speaker 1: messing with this little boy because every black mama around
Speaker 1: is gonna come over here and make sure this child
Speaker 1: is okay. Or I can't go over here messing with
Speaker 1: this girl or call her out her name or harass
Speaker 1: her because I know every black person around is gonna
Speaker 1: come and make sure she's okay. That is the superpower
Speaker 1: of our community. So I know a lot of jokes,
Speaker 1: a lot of memes and all that was made around
Speaker 1: this video. It was worthy. Some of those voiceovers I
Speaker 1: still I steal. I hope y'all want to take a
Speaker 1: little time and watch it and celebrate. What do we
Speaker 1: guys go to work on August fifth? Because anybody knows that?
Speaker 3: Okay, oh no, But it is worth saying that it
Speaker 3: was the young black kid who was aggressed upon by
Speaker 3: a fool grown adult boat of of older white folks
Speaker 3: who had been drinking clearly and basically disrespected jumped on.
Speaker 1: He was a grown man. He was the guy, the
Speaker 1: young guy jump you have my black aquaman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was there was that one, But there were
Speaker 3: the two young people who and they were all they
Speaker 3: were still younger in comparison to this group.
Speaker 4: Of both establed.
Speaker 3: Well there's that allegedly allegedly, but but it was, it
Speaker 3: was it was the victims here on original cause were
Speaker 3: these these two young black men or these two uh
Speaker 3: workers who apparently weren't moving quick enough, weren't reacting quick
Speaker 3: enough to the to the drunk voters.
Speaker 1: And it was the voters took the park the parking
Speaker 1: was young.
Speaker 3: They were trying to they were they they were they
Speaker 3: were accusing these uh, the two black men of not
Speaker 3: responding quick enough. They weren't hastening quick enough to to.
Speaker 1: Bochearity guard was telling them, please move your boat because
Speaker 1: the Harriet, yes the boat was actually called the Harriet
Speaker 1: was coming in. White voters had the inebriated white voters
Speaker 1: had their boat there, and the security guard was trying
Speaker 1: to explain to them, you need to move your boat.
Speaker 1: And they were being very aggressive with him and surrounding him,
Speaker 1: and he maintained his cool for as long as he could,
Speaker 1: and they got physical, and that is when he threw
Speaker 1: the black hat, which is now the national symbol for
Speaker 1: a black person. He took it off, and people saw
Speaker 1: the bat signal, and then black aquaman descended from the sea,
Speaker 1: and the nation of domination descended from the land, and
Speaker 1: it became a melee and lessons were learned, I hope,
Speaker 1: and they got dealt with. But listen, I will say
Speaker 1: this on a serious note. Had they been armed, this
Speaker 1: would have been a horrific situation. Had their not been
Speaker 1: people in place to bear witness to this with video cameras,
Speaker 1: we would have seen the impacts of the criminal justice
Speaker 1: justice system. Uh possibly arrest these people for simply defending themselves.
Speaker 3: Had heard a different narratives right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, or heard a different narrative had that young boy
Speaker 1: not been fit enough to get in that water and
Speaker 1: swim across and get himself off. Our health matters too.
Speaker 1: He was fit enough and he was ready to address it.
Speaker 1: And I just think, you know, the universe sends you
Speaker 1: lessons until you learn them, and I think that was
Speaker 1: an appropriate lesson to be learnt with the tuh.
Speaker 4: You learn today today. So I tell you, guys, what
Speaker 4: news I was about to say. If I go on
Speaker 4: Fox News on the anniversary of August teenth. I'm straight.
Speaker 3: I can do that.
Speaker 4: I can do that one. But just know I'm coming
Speaker 4: with the Mississippi Mass Choir group of Negroes. Be it's
Speaker 4: gonna go down on live air. If y'all go left,
Speaker 4: know that I'm not gonna people to judge, y'all. I'm
Speaker 4: throwing up that black hat. It's going down live entertainment,
Speaker 4: live entertainment, not even pay per view.
Speaker 1: Free for you.
Speaker 4: Just know August teenth, y'all invite me on. That's what
Speaker 4: we're doing from the land. And Andrew is shaking his head.
Speaker 4: He's so disappointed. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, brother. Normally I'm
Speaker 4: a perfection kid with you, but I just felt like
Speaker 4: it would be really fun and it would be pay
Speaker 4: back from the ancestors I.
Speaker 3: Want the can't.
Speaker 1: Violence is always the answer, and we're.
Speaker 4: Not even leading with violence. We're just saying no that
Speaker 4: it's an option.
Speaker 1: It self defense.
Speaker 4: It's self defense, you know, you know what speaking of
Speaker 4: I know we're over, but I just want to say
Speaker 4: one thing, and I'm just going to say it vague here.
Speaker 4: If you are going to offend our historic likely president
Speaker 4: by saying things that are not accurate, and then telling
Speaker 4: stories about situations with said presidential candidate that you know
Speaker 4: never happened because you're a to social media. That is
Speaker 4: also violence, and I would like for you to calm
Speaker 4: it down and to not lie on our people because
Speaker 4: August teenth is coming up. The least you can do
Speaker 4: is fact check your answers, make sure that you're not
Speaker 4: here making up things out of thin air. It's not
Speaker 4: a good idea, and just try to keep the peace
Speaker 4: with facts that is really important. In fact, tip I
Speaker 4: didn't even mean too, but that's my call to action
Speaker 4: for this week. Stop lying on Kamala hairs is my
Speaker 4: call to action this week. If you black, especially, don't
Speaker 4: lie Kamala Harris this week in commemoration of August teenth,
Speaker 4: I would like for you to stop, period, but please stop.
Speaker 4: If you got a platform, you know who you are.
Speaker 4: If you've got a platform, stop them lies. It's not
Speaker 4: cute on you Booth, stop them lies.
Speaker 1: Man, watch your mouth, don Apollo, Apollo, watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: I would echo that would be my call to action too,
Speaker 1: but not only to people who are addicted to attention,
Speaker 1: be it good or bad, for telling these narratives on
Speaker 1: social media. I pray for your wellness and for anybody
Speaker 1: out there, I pray for your wellness with that kind
Speaker 1: of narcissistic behavior. But my call to action would be
Speaker 1: to people who follow people who don't apollo, you know,
Speaker 1: people who follow people who spread misinformation, share responsibly, you know,
Speaker 1: either unfollow or don't share those things, or challenge the person.
Speaker 1: But don't assume because someone has a platform and they
Speaker 1: say this thing happened, that it's true. Don't assume that
Speaker 1: what they're saying because they you know, can can correctly,
Speaker 1: you know, get a conjugated verb that they are smart.
Speaker 1: There there's more to intellect and intelligence to going viral.
Speaker 1: I would argue that typically fools would rather go viral.
Speaker 1: The intelligent sometimes know how to shut the you know
Speaker 1: what up. So share responsibly.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there,
Speaker 1: So just watch who you follow, and watch who's stories
Speaker 1: you believe, andrew what you want for us.
Speaker 3: And concert with y'all. I would just say, I know,
Speaker 3: we're feeling really euphoric a lot of the community about
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris's ascension to almost democratic nominee for presidents soon
Speaker 3: to be. I would say the other side hasn't kept
Speaker 3: the race for president as close as they have because
Speaker 3: they have great candidates. They've kept it this close because
Speaker 3: in the case of Kamala Harris, when there is not
Speaker 3: a salient enough attack on her based off the facts,
Speaker 3: they go gutter, and unfortunately gutter still sometimes wins out.
Speaker 3: It certainly captures opinion and imagination. And so just know
Speaker 3: that we have to be ready every single day between
Speaker 3: now an election day to go to the hilt for
Speaker 3: what it is that we believe, and strong and unapologetic
Speaker 3: defense of the candidate that we support, because they may
Speaker 3: look like chaos, but it should terrify you because when
Speaker 3: they lose on legitimate grounds, they're legitimate grounds of fighting,
Speaker 3: they go to the illegitimate and those tools they have
Speaker 3: spent centuries sharpening. And so let's not go to sleep
Speaker 3: on this thing. This race is nowhere near the end,
Speaker 3: and it will change generation to generation day by day
Speaker 3: until we get to election day. Power doesn't see it
Speaker 3: anything easily, and it certainly doesn't see it without a demand,
Speaker 3: and we're making a demand right now, and it's going
Speaker 3: to stretch people, and particularly the other side beyond its limits.
Speaker 3: Is my fear, which is why we have to We
Speaker 3: have to stay ready.
Speaker 4: Stay ready, so you ain't got to get ready. Can
Speaker 4: I just tell you guys one last thing. Yes, please watch,
Speaker 4: I'm lifting my eyebrows. I'm flaring my nostrils. So you
Speaker 4: notice anything different?
Speaker 1: What your glasses?
Speaker 4: No, you don't see my fore hair wrinkles are gone.
Speaker 4: I got botox.
Speaker 1: Oh well we should have been.
Speaker 4: We should have you.
Speaker 1: Know, well, how did it does it?
Speaker 3: What does it do?
Speaker 4: But I'm frustrated because I told him I'm known for
Speaker 4: my Yeah, I didn't get it done. I literally got
Speaker 4: it where my foreheadlines are. But I told him I
Speaker 4: need to make facial expressions. I'm known for facial expressions.
Speaker 1: But I can't look and you say something to me. Man,
Speaker 1: Lets see how she looks.
Speaker 3: Straining?
Speaker 1: Casey, Wow your movement. You look gorgeous? All this okay?
Speaker 1: No they're moving. Look, yes they are, no movement. I
Speaker 1: don't see no movement.
Speaker 3: Be pretty steady.
Speaker 4: All it's gonna wear off in six months. But I'm
Speaker 4: going to get somewhere just less. I was like, I
Speaker 4: need to I'm known for facial expressions.
Speaker 3: Well, everybody's gonna know when I get it because all
Speaker 3: them wrinkles that show up.
Speaker 1: Andrew, you look handsome. Angel I want to let y'all
Speaker 1: know Andrew looks handsome we are when we were together
Speaker 1: in person. I even tell him like, Andrew looks so good.
Speaker 1: I was just with Angela on a beach where Angela
Speaker 1: and nobody's wearing any makeup. Angela looks super gorgeous. We
Speaker 1: were on a yacht. She didn't want to take pictures,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, stand up there on the and
Speaker 1: take pictures. Oh, that's because I need to lose, and
Speaker 1: she's only thing that she needs to lose. And when
Speaker 1: I say she got a tiny, little size zero looking body,
Speaker 1: I don't know what size that actually is, but it
Speaker 1: looked like a zero. So y'all are both some good
Speaker 1: looking people away.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Guys know Tip took pictures. They're gonna be out Freaking
Speaker 1: Lily after Freaking Lily. Stay tuned, all right. Before we
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