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Speaker 1: off with the bad news. Former w w E Tough
Speaker 1: Enough winner Sarah Lee has passed away at thirty years old.
Speaker 1: Lee's passing was announced by her mother, Terry Lee, and
Speaker 1: a Facebook post on Thursday. Cause of death has not
Speaker 1: been disclosed. It is with heavy hearts we want to
Speaker 1: share that our Sarah Weston is going to be with Jesus.
Speaker 1: Terry Lee wrote, We're all in shock and arrangements are
Speaker 1: not complete. We ask that you respectively or respectfully let
Speaker 1: our family mourn. We all need prayers, especially Corey and
Speaker 1: her children. And Lee was voted the female winner of
Speaker 1: the most recent season of w w E. Tough Enough
Speaker 1: is one of the two winners of the show. She
Speaker 1: in a two hull w w E contract joined the
Speaker 1: Performance Center. However, she departed w w E in She
Speaker 1: was married former w w E wrestler Wesley Blake. The
Speaker 1: couple had three children together. Just a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: she posted something on Instagram she was she had been
Speaker 1: back in the gym after a sinus infection, and then
Speaker 1: word broke yesterday. So all the best to the family
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Speaker 1: weekend of shows coming up, one show after another, starting
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Speaker 1: Do we have a big weekend of shows coming up
Speaker 1: here SmackDown tonight, Rampage tonight, Battle of the Belt tonight,
Speaker 1: the ten A Bound for Glory pay per view Tonight,
Speaker 1: Extreme Rules Tomorrow. There's a new Japan show tomorrow. I
Speaker 1: can't watch it all, but I'm John Moxley and Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge also tomorrow. Oh my god, that's tomorrow as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now looking good, bro. Let me tell you something about
Speaker 1: John Moxley and Nick Gauge. I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: guys are aware of this or not, but John Moxley
Speaker 1: is the current at g c W champion And for
Speaker 1: those of you that don't know what was supposed to
Speaker 1: happen at the at the all out show this year,
Speaker 1: c M Punk beat John Moxley, and John Moxley was
Speaker 1: gonna go on vacation. He said it in a promo
Speaker 1: he was gonna be gone. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was six weeks, eight weeks, but he was gonna be
Speaker 1: gone for a substantial period of time. And as a
Speaker 1: result of that, g c W set up a storyline
Speaker 1: where John Moxley is going to defend the g c
Speaker 1: W title against the biggest baby face ever in gc W,
Speaker 1: Nick Gage, and the stipulation is that Nick Gauge's career
Speaker 1: is on the line. So Nick Gauge either beats John
Speaker 1: Moxley and wins the title, or Nick Gauge retires. Now
Speaker 1: it's possible that none of this matters and Nick Age
Speaker 1: is just going to retire, but it is professional wrestling,
Speaker 1: and I mean, if I had to make a bet,
Speaker 1: I would bet that Nick Gauge is not going to retire,
Speaker 1: and that he was probably scheduled to win this title
Speaker 1: from John Moxley because John Moxley was supposed to just
Speaker 1: be on vacation. He was supposed to be the a
Speaker 1: W champion. So then all hell broke loose and all
Speaker 1: out and now John Moxley is the a W champion,
Speaker 1: So now we got potentially an issue. As noted, if
Speaker 1: Nick Cage is just done, he's out, it's not an issue.
Speaker 1: But if Nick Gauge was supposed to win, now you've
Speaker 1: got the a W champion who was not supposed to
Speaker 1: be the a W champion. And my guess is Tony
Speaker 1: CON's I would think probably not high on the idea
Speaker 1: of the a W champion going to a g c
Speaker 1: W show, which Mike explained was outside in the parking
Speaker 1: lot or something and losing the title to Nick Age
Speaker 1: obviously not the a W title. So this is this
Speaker 1: is a potentially you know, I'm very intrigued by what
Speaker 1: they do this weekend because here's the deal. What's John
Speaker 1: Moxley's character. He's he's the man of the people. He's
Speaker 1: not a corporate guy. He goes out there, he does
Speaker 1: indie dates here and there. John Moxley's character, it's not
Speaker 1: the sort of guy that shows up and goes I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna hand over this title. John Moxley's character is
Speaker 1: not the guy who's not going to show up. The
Speaker 1: John Moxley character, right, he should be going to g
Speaker 1: c W and putting over Nick Gauge if that was
Speaker 1: a scheduled finish. But now he's got a championship that
Speaker 1: he you know, Tony doesn't usually let his champions go
Speaker 1: and just do jobs on indie shows. It's rare, as
Speaker 1: in it's never happened. So it'll be very interesting this weekend.
Speaker 1: What is going to happen in John Moxley and Nick Gage.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm just interested to see where they go.
Speaker 1: This thing is on the pier in Atlantic City, so
Speaker 1: they could be hanging off the uh one of the
Speaker 1: gimmick rides, or in the arcade or in the water.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very very interesting, especially on a night
Speaker 1: that's looking like it's gonna be under fifty degrees and
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of rain. It's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 1: Gonna be fascinating for guys like Nick Wayne and Shouldn't
Speaker 1: Skywalker that's on the show. That is a if you
Speaker 1: really think about it, it's like a head exploding match
Speaker 1: between the two Tony Deppen and your motto. They got
Speaker 1: a couple of the dragon Gate guys who have coming over.
Speaker 1: But you know, I worry about that. You know, you
Speaker 1: get the slippery canvas, you got all those other things
Speaker 1: that come with running outside, especially and possibly in clement weather.
Speaker 1: So it is a it's really gonna be an interesting weekend,
Speaker 1: you know. The The other thing, if if I were asked,
Speaker 1: what do you do in this situation, if you're Tony Khan,
Speaker 1: and here's my answer. My answer is that if Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge is supposed to win the g c W title,
Speaker 1: my answer is John Moxley goes in there and Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge beats him and wins the g c W title,
Speaker 1: and then whenever, guess who shows up on Dynamite and
Speaker 1: he's getting an a W championship match, and then John
Speaker 1: Moxley beats him. To worry about dominoes, I mean, here's
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Here's here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Let's say that wouldn't have been the end of the
Speaker 1: world if Juice Robinson would have beaten John Moxley that
Speaker 1: title eliminator, and then a week later they have the
Speaker 1: title match and Moxley beats him. Of course not it
Speaker 1: would have made no difference whatsoever. Is it gonna make
Speaker 1: one bit of difference business wise? If Nick Gauge goes
Speaker 1: in there and beats John Moxley. No, if you're concerned
Speaker 1: about it, then you can have John Moxley beat Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge on television. But honest to god, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: I don't think you even need to do that. And
Speaker 1: I think that given the character the John Moxley portrays,
Speaker 1: given the uh, you know, the the A E W,
Speaker 1: they they they want to give the impression that, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not a big corporation. We we care about the fans,
Speaker 1: and the fans you know, they were promised this match
Speaker 1: and circumstances came up, so you know what, We're gonna
Speaker 1: give them the match, and we're gonna do something you
Speaker 1: don't expect. We're actually gonna have our champion lose on
Speaker 1: an indie show and it gives it gives them cred,
Speaker 1: It gives John Moxley cred. And there's nobody, there is
Speaker 1: no passionate a W fan that's gonna hear that John
Speaker 1: Moxley lost a match to Nick Gauge the g c
Speaker 1: W show and go ah, this guy's a fake champion.
Speaker 1: I can't watch this show anymore with Roman how about
Speaker 1: not one? Hey? Look mean, honestly, it could very well
Speaker 1: be the case. That Nick Caage was going to retire
Speaker 1: lose this match, I think everybody. Yeah, I mean, as
Speaker 1: soon as you see it on paper, you go, well,
Speaker 1: Moxley has been champion over a year. This would be
Speaker 1: a great chance to get it off of them. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll do this. Like nobody's gonna believe that
Speaker 1: Nick loses. Maybe he does, And I think you're right.
Speaker 1: This is two thousand and twenty two, and considering what
Speaker 1: the eight W fan base is, I think they'll have
Speaker 1: more respect for John Moxley. I mean as far as
Speaker 1: the base goes. People on the outside casual fans maybe
Speaker 1: not so much. But you know, John Moxley losing in GCW,
Speaker 1: it's not one. It's two thousand twenty two. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody would care bat and I even really think
Speaker 1: about it, unless you know, they had an ax to
Speaker 1: grind against a W or against John Moxley or g
Speaker 1: c W whatever it would be. But you can also,
Speaker 1: because it's GCW, if there is some sort of screwy
Speaker 1: finish to this that ends up with Moxley winning or
Speaker 1: with you know, whatever it is. I know you don't
Speaker 1: like to do this, but Nick Gauge is a guy
Speaker 1: that a year from now you can bring back during
Speaker 1: Rustlemania weekend and have a passionate outcry from the fan
Speaker 1: base to to rally behind him, to get him out
Speaker 1: of retirement again, to flip the stipulation over. And I
Speaker 1: know it's a dumb kind of thing to do, but
Speaker 1: it's not like it hasn't happened in pro wrestling before.
Speaker 1: You just need to be able to have somebody. This
Speaker 1: is the scenario with Cody. You know he'll never get
Speaker 1: a title shot. You know five years down the line,
Speaker 1: you could always do an angle to bring it back
Speaker 1: where he can get a shot. And I think you
Speaker 1: could probably do that with Nick Gauge's career here as
Speaker 1: well too. But who knows what's going to happen, and
Speaker 1: who knows if this does change things where they do
Speaker 1: bring in somebody to cause a little havoc in the
Speaker 1: main event. He bro I hate to do this because
Speaker 1: we might have an issue, but unlug and plug your
Speaker 1: mic back in. It's got a horrible tinny noise to
Speaker 1: it everyone's complaining about. Luckily we'll be uh, we'll be
Speaker 1: hitting a commercial here pretty soon. But in addition to
Speaker 1: that show I have for you the lineup for some
Speaker 1: back Down tonight. I have for you the lineup for
Speaker 1: Rampage tonight, the lineup for the Bound for Glory pay
Speaker 1: per view, the Extreme Rules pay per view, and when
Speaker 1: we come back from the break. I know all of
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Speaker 1: if you want to see it again on Vice TV,
Speaker 1: the Vince McMahon documentary will be airing in just under
Speaker 1: two weeks. I'll give you the date. You can set
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Speaker 1: broke during the break. So Mike has it plugged in
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Speaker 1: not wiggle anything. No wiggling, Mike. If you wiggle your cord,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have big issues on the show today. I've
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Speaker 1: all right. Here's all of the lineups for the show's
Speaker 1: coming up here. First off, a two hour documentary from
Speaker 1: Vice on former chairman and CEO Vince McMahon, will debut
Speaker 1: later this month. The most reported The Nine Lives of
Speaker 1: Vince McMahon, while are on Tuesday, October eighteen at eight
Speaker 1: Eastern as it leading for that Night's a W, a
Speaker 1: focused edition of the Tales of the Territories. What a
Speaker 1: what a great day for this to air, a day
Speaker 1: where in fact we have got to both n X
Speaker 1: T n a W going head to head. Oh no, eight,
Speaker 1: Oh god, that's right, that's their head to head day.
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball me a favorite bloke set that DVR.
Speaker 1: I'm not these numbers ain't looking good, oh man. And
Speaker 1: you know that as an aside, Major League Baseball is
Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now. The NHL seasons officially day
Speaker 1: obviously basketball is gonna be kicked off here pretty soon,
Speaker 1: so prepare for a lot of moving around when it
Speaker 1: comes to the schedules. Al Right, here's the lineups everyone
Speaker 1: that I mentioned. By the way, October eight o'clock PM,
Speaker 1: Vice TV. I'll be reminding you regularly. I don't need
Speaker 1: this thing doing viewers. I prefer it did a little
Speaker 1: better than that. But who cares? Now? This is this
Speaker 1: is gonna be rough. If this does a good number,
Speaker 1: this does a good number, I want a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's some strong competition. A W and n XT and
Speaker 1: you know those You know those two shows are gonna
Speaker 1: be booking that night. What row everything everything neither side
Speaker 1: wants to lose. There's gonna be main roster guys all
Speaker 1: over n X T, A W is gonna have title matches.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're throwing everything at the wall. So look,
Speaker 1: I know saw Brian Solomon's on this, I know Dave
Speaker 1: Meltzer is on this. But can we really thank you
Speaker 1: for the house if it ends up doing a good number. Actually,
Speaker 1: now to think about it, wouldn't those shows at nine
Speaker 1: to eleven and this is eight to nine ten. God,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm in the first hour, all right, rampage
Speaker 1: Tonight we have the Death Triangle defending the trio's titles
Speaker 1: against John Silver, Alex Reynolds, and ten. We got Josh Woodson,
Speaker 1: Tony Nice versus The Varsity, Blonde, Madison Rain and Sky
Speaker 1: Blue versus Time Mellow and Anna j John Moxley, Wheeler,
Speaker 1: You to cloud Eo versus R and Private Party, as
Speaker 1: well as Jose the Assistant. I better do better numbers
Speaker 1: in that bloke coming up on Tuesday. A w Battle
Speaker 1: the Belts follows immediately afterwards, in which we have Jade
Speaker 1: Cardill versus Willow Nightingale. We have the Gates of Agony
Speaker 1: versus FTR for the Ring of Honor take team titles.
Speaker 1: We have Trent Boretta versus Pack for the All Atlantic title.
Speaker 1: So two hours of Rampage coming tonight. Also tonight SmackDown
Speaker 1: for two hours. We have got Zelena. She's gonna be
Speaker 1: back soon. I don't know if it'll be tonight, but
Speaker 1: Selena is on her way back. This has not been
Speaker 1: advertised these first two things, so Lena should be back
Speaker 1: soon maybe tonight. And Legato del Phantasma is expected to
Speaker 1: be a SmackDown team. I don't know if they will
Speaker 1: be there in person tonight, but I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised if you saw a vignette for them on the
Speaker 1: show tonight. We have a face to face with Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns and Logan Paul. We have the intercontinal title on
Speaker 1: the line. Gun Thir will face Samus. You seem to
Speaker 1: say that with a little bit of a smirk on
Speaker 1: your face, But Logan and Roman god their last That
Speaker 1: last Logan Paul segment was a netrocity. At least we'll
Speaker 1: get Paul. We had Paul last time, it was still neutrocity.
Speaker 1: And we have Solo so Coo versus Ricochet. And you know,
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, guys, you look at all those those
Speaker 1: matches on a W rampage and there is a match
Speaker 1: on SmackDown where the last time these two men were
Speaker 1: in the ring together got five stars. So there's a
Speaker 1: possibility that the best match tonight is going to be
Speaker 1: on SmackDown on to night where we have SmackDown Rampage,
Speaker 1: Battle the Belts and Bound for Glory. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what kind of time they give them, what they allow
Speaker 1: them to do. Wouldn't be surprised if Sheamus won that
Speaker 1: title either. Now that would be interesting. Leading into tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we've also got to the Bound for Glory Show. Brian
Speaker 1: Myers will be defending the Impact Media Championship against a
Speaker 1: TVD Josh Alexander versus Eddie Edwards for the Impact Title,
Speaker 1: Jordan Grace versus Musha Slamovich for the Impact Are The
Speaker 1: Women's title. The knock Knockouts. They're knockouts, that's right on
Speaker 1: or no more. Matt Tavid and Mike Bennett versus MotorCity
Speaker 1: Machine Guns for the tag team titles. Mike Bailey versus
Speaker 1: Frankie Kazarian for the X Division title. Mia Yim versus
Speaker 1: Mickey James. If Mickey James loses this match, she will
Speaker 1: retire from professional wrestling. And I'm not saying that if
Speaker 1: she retires she won't come back, but these sings me
Speaker 1: less than they used to. Well, we'll see what happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know some guy who keeps coming back
Speaker 1: and trying his hand at this wrestling thing and keeps
Speaker 1: losing tag matches. I can't remember his name, though, How
Speaker 1: dare you? We've got Chelsea Green and Diana Parazzover, Sajesska
Speaker 1: and tay A Valkyrie for the Impact Knockouts tag titles,
Speaker 1: and a Call your Shots Gauntlet Match, a twenty wrestler
Speaker 1: intergender gauntlet battle royal that is bound for glory. Coming
Speaker 1: up here tonight and then tomorrow Extreme Rules Live. Morgan
Speaker 1: and Rond Rousey Extreme Rules for the SmackDown Women's title.
Speaker 1: Matt Riddle and seth Rawlins. They fight pit match with
Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier as the guest referee. Drew McIntyre and Carrion
Speaker 1: Cross in a strap match. Bianca Versus Bailey and Eo
Speaker 1: Sky for the Raw Women's title, Edge and Finn Balor
Speaker 1: for the It's an I Quit match. Yeah, I quit.
Speaker 1: That's a step. And then the Browling Brutes will be
Speaker 1: facing Imperium in a good old fashioned Donnie Brooke match
Speaker 1: might be the match of the weekend right there, no
Speaker 1: matter what the promotion is. Well, I mean, if if, if,
Speaker 1: if Gunther and Shamus have a match the same as
Speaker 1: they had at that pay per view, good luck anything
Speaker 1: beating it this weekend. That would mean one of those
Speaker 1: matches I just read would have to be five stars
Speaker 1: are better. That's a high bar. So there you go.
Speaker 1: How do you think they're bringing back in your gut
Speaker 1: right now? Well, how do you feel that as though
Speaker 1: bring back bray Wyatt, because there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: speculation that Okay, we're gonna go ahead and cash in
Speaker 1: on the white rapid thing, or do at least a
Speaker 1: little bit of a bigger impact thing at the pay
Speaker 1: per view. Could you see him get involved in a
Speaker 1: match like a match with Edge where he helps finnmalor
Speaker 1: do something to to cause havoc, or do you bring
Speaker 1: him in against somebody else in a different type of scenario,
Speaker 1: you know, you bring him in and get somebody who's
Speaker 1: not on the card, or do you have do you
Speaker 1: put some impact on something that takes place tomorrow in Philadelphia. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about who this bloke would even
Speaker 1: feud with. Well, that's the thing, listen, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's coming back as a baby face. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a baby face reaction when he comes back.
Speaker 1: So maybe you could have a jolly old fiend and
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back and go after a a heel
Speaker 1: Dexter Loomis. I mean he could be he could be
Speaker 1: a heel, in which case, well, who does he Who's
Speaker 1: he gonna feud with Drew McIntire. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: do the the carrying a cross true mcutyre match, and
Speaker 1: you know Drew mcutyre. I think they really want to
Speaker 1: get this carrying cross going. So I could see carrying
Speaker 1: cross beating Drew after some sort of interference from the
Speaker 1: returning fiend. I could see them doing that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's what they're gonna do. And then Drew
Speaker 1: McIntyre could feud with the fiend. Poor bloke, but again
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the fiends. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna do magic if he comes back.
Speaker 1: And by the way, a correction, that match on SmackDown
Speaker 1: that I talked about was not with Shamous, it was
Speaker 1: with Kevin Owens, and uh, although I was although I
Speaker 1: was wrong, let me tell you something. Bray White with
Speaker 1: no hocus pocus versus Shamus had the a banger. So anyway,
Speaker 1: this guy can do hard hitting, you know, good matches.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to do the magic and ocus focus.
Speaker 1: And you know Drew mcutyre, if you've watched, if you
Speaker 1: watched a lot of Drew mctre, I don't think this
Speaker 1: bloke likes a lot of magic and hocus pocus, So
Speaker 1: that would actually be a good first feud to to
Speaker 1: kick off a new fiend who has the same mass
Speaker 1: character everything but doesn't do magic. I'd be fine with
Speaker 1: that well, and that, you know, if you wanted to
Speaker 1: throw Edge into the mix, because we already know what
Speaker 1: Edges feelings are on hocus post poco, hocus pocus and
Speaker 1: magic and what PoCA hoca. That's some some poconics pocus.
Speaker 1: So with that hocus pocus, we know Edge doesn't like it.
Speaker 1: So that's why I can see maybe him splitting off
Speaker 1: if they decide to turn a j Styles hav an
Speaker 1: aj Style's Edge feud or something like that leading into
Speaker 1: a big match at Survivor series. Could definitely see something
Speaker 1: like that, And then Drew McIntyre really in some ways
Speaker 1: would be the perfect person for him to come back with. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to do that, because
Speaker 1: obviously you got do you wrong to be done with
Speaker 1: Carrie and Cross and Drew McIntyre right away. I guess
Speaker 1: maybe you could be And if you could, that's probably
Speaker 1: the right guy to put him in with. And again,
Speaker 1: you just hope that there's not as much hocus pocus
Speaker 1: and there's a lot more fisticuffs and big meaty men's
Speaker 1: slapping meat because Kevin Owens, Shamus, Drew McIntyre, Bobby, anybody
Speaker 1: that goes out there in thumps. I mean that's really again,
Speaker 1: that stuff is always going to get over. That stuff
Speaker 1: is always going to be what people want to see
Speaker 1: in general, more than the magic. Hey listen, speaking of magic,
Speaker 1: Speaking of magic, this person says he'd love to see
Speaker 1: me and Edge go and uh go crazy at a
Speaker 1: magic show with anger. I like magic. I used to
Speaker 1: be a magician. You see this, see this coin, watch
Speaker 1: blow Mike whoaing? I like magic. I don't like magic
Speaker 1: on my wrestling show. You know what. I quit see
Speaker 1: you next week, everybody. I'm gonna make this guy disappear.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back wrestlings Overlive. Yeah, you're listening to
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Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing? And thankfully I was able to make
Speaker 1: Brian disappear, and thankfully for me, he doesn't have any
Speaker 1: type of weird magical ah. Oh, I'll be damned point
Speaker 1: to you, Brian Alvarez. I'm not sure how exactly how
Speaker 1: he did that. He's a big fan of Harry Anderson
Speaker 1: on Night Court when he was there anyway back on
Speaker 1: the show Restle Observer Live. It's Friday. It's Friday, and
Speaker 1: and Brian's out of here, and I'm here with you,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you can hear me, oh K with this
Speaker 1: tinny microphone. And there's still a lot of stuff to
Speaker 1: get into, not the least of which is lurkin Ony
Speaker 1: Larkin kind of forgot about OWNI actually when I thought
Speaker 1: he was released from the from w w E, and
Speaker 1: now he's working as a full time coach at the
Speaker 1: Performance Center, apparently according to Dave's Wrestling Observer newsletter, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're not a subscriber to the
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer newsletter, I if this isn't the year to
Speaker 1: try to convince you, I don't. I don't know what
Speaker 1: would be, to be honest with you, Because what Dave
Speaker 1: wrote about Vince McMahon once he was ousted from w
Speaker 1: w E was an amazing issue. This issue with Antonio
Speaker 1: Andochi is something else as well, too, so an incredibly
Speaker 1: packed newsletter this week, including the news on Ony Lurkin
Speaker 1: Chris Gerard, who was brought in working as a guest
Speaker 1: coast guest coach at the Performance Center. But he's the
Speaker 1: type of guy that I would love to see stay
Speaker 1: on in a role as a coach. I mean, how
Speaker 1: many bad matches did you see from Money Larkin? There
Speaker 1: really weren't a whole lot of them, were they? He's
Speaker 1: always technically proficient, always technically sound. He's one of those
Speaker 1: guys like Drew Goolak, who, yes, they don't have their
Speaker 1: wrestlers work in that style all of the time, obviously not.
Speaker 1: We've seen this with trainers. They had Steve Kern, they
Speaker 1: had Ricky Steamboat, They've had a lot of guys from
Speaker 1: the past who were great technical workers and that's not
Speaker 1: exactly what they want them to do. But they still
Speaker 1: need to be trained in some of this, and you know,
Speaker 1: actual trained professional wrestlers, and Toy Larkin is a great
Speaker 1: person to actually do that with. So, you know, good,
Speaker 1: good for him and congratulations. I think that would be
Speaker 1: a good move by w w E to bring him
Speaker 1: on full time. What I think is a big negative
Speaker 1: for w w E is the fact that they have
Speaker 1: apparently released Nigel McGuinness, and we heard about all of
Speaker 1: the announcer shake ups that were taking place yesterday and
Speaker 1: I kind of wondered, what does this mean for Nigel,
Speaker 1: you know, with book or T getting this the spot
Speaker 1: with Vick Joseph, which I believe is temporary for now,
Speaker 1: because once Pat McAfee returns from ESPN and gets back
Speaker 1: in his role on SmackDown, I would assume that Wade
Speaker 1: Barrett would slide back down to n x T. He
Speaker 1: and Vic Joseph, I think are a very good team.
Speaker 1: I like that whole team. Mackenzie Mitchell is a backstage interviewer.
Speaker 1: I like that whole package, and I think that's probably
Speaker 1: what was going to happen. But I thought with Nigel McGinnis,
Speaker 1: whatever happens with n x T Europe, he was she
Speaker 1: probably was going to have a role there because he
Speaker 1: was not inserted anywhere else. But apparently that's because he's
Speaker 1: been released, and that information comes from p W Insider.
Speaker 1: He's been with the company since two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: He was doing the n x T Level Up Show,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's uh, it's frustrating because he's really
Speaker 1: good at that job. And in a w they have
Speaker 1: a zillion announcers. I mean they hired Big Show to
Speaker 1: be an announcer, they hired Mark Henry to be an announcer.
Speaker 1: They have Jim Ross, they have Tazz, they have Excalibur,
Speaker 1: they have Tony Schavani. I'm sure there's names I'm forgetting.
Speaker 1: Nigel McGinnis would be a great person to have on
Speaker 1: one of those shows. And I don't watch Dark and
Speaker 1: Elevation much. I hate to say this, I just don't
Speaker 1: have the time. So a lot of times when I
Speaker 1: see Dark and Elevation, that happens to be on batcha
Speaker 1: Mania where there where it's Taz and we get some
Speaker 1: of the commentary there so and he and Excalibur are
Speaker 1: great together. They're hilarious together. The little bits I see,
Speaker 1: you know they're having a good time. But is that
Speaker 1: a good place to maybe have a Nigel McGinnis. Is
Speaker 1: it good to have Nigel McGinnis on staff because of
Speaker 1: all of his experience. He's got experience acting, you know,
Speaker 1: outside of the wrestling realm. He's got experienced, you know,
Speaker 1: being a a public speaker outside of the wrestling realm.
Speaker 1: On top of the fact that I mean technically he
Speaker 1: was fantastic. I mean, you know he could Again, I
Speaker 1: don't have to go through the the accolades of Nigel
Speaker 1: McGinnis for most of you out there. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was a tremendous professional wrestler. And you can't tell the
Speaker 1: story of Ring of Honor without Nigel McGinnis, without some
Speaker 1: O Joe, without Brian Danielson, without some of the guys
Speaker 1: that were there. And maybe that's a really good spot
Speaker 1: for him, is maybe ending up doing something with Ring
Speaker 1: of Honor, if not as an announcer, maybe in the
Speaker 1: role of a and executive, maybe in the role of
Speaker 1: a you know, the president or the commissioner or something
Speaker 1: like that. That would probably be in my mind, that
Speaker 1: would be a good thing to do. And I know
Speaker 1: they have a Caprice Coleman and they have ian Riccabani,
Speaker 1: and they're good. They're more than good. They're in fact,
Speaker 1: over time, I think Caprice really doesn't get his credit
Speaker 1: for how good and how comfortable he has gotten. And
Speaker 1: the same thing with Ian too. Although Ian started off
Speaker 1: really good, you know he's gotten a lot better as
Speaker 1: well too. You know, them getting back in the groove
Speaker 1: of each other, you bring in Nigel to do something
Speaker 1: there couldn't be the worst idea in the world, at least,
Speaker 1: I don't think it is a couple other things too
Speaker 1: that kind of clicking around in my mind. You know.
Speaker 1: Brian did bring up the at the beginning about Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge and John Moxley that the rest of that card
Speaker 1: as well too, And I did mention Nick Wayne and
Speaker 1: shouldn't Skywalker Tony Deppon and your motto? Maybe one of
Speaker 1: those matches this weekend too, And I'm sure there's going
Speaker 1: to be a handful that kind of can be put
Speaker 1: in the steal the show category, But that's one of
Speaker 1: those matches that probably isn't going to get a lot
Speaker 1: of shine with a lot of other matches taking place
Speaker 1: all over the place this weekend, but I love that
Speaker 1: match on paper. They have a GCW Tag Team Championship
Speaker 1: the Megabastards of Alex Cologne and John Wayne Murdoch against
Speaker 1: Arena Yamashita and Drew Parker, which ought to be violent
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure. Jordan Oliver and Jonathan Gresham just
Speaker 1: another you know, it's like kind of like Nick Wayne,
Speaker 1: just another brick on the on the steps for Jordan Oliver,
Speaker 1: to kind of continue to get better. They had Jordan
Speaker 1: Oliver and Nick Wayne in matching gear over in g
Speaker 1: c W when they went to Japan against Freedom, so
Speaker 1: you know, to see Nick Oliver and Nick Wayne, or
Speaker 1: to see Jordan Oliver and Nick Wayne were as a
Speaker 1: tag team to over here with the matching gear and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff, I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Joey Janelle and Cole Raderick against sik Lope and Mieto
Speaker 1: extrem Oh that ought to be interesting as well too.
Speaker 1: And then Ali Catch against Sawyer Wreck is gonna need
Speaker 1: to be what fills out the first night of the
Speaker 1: Fight Club shows. So outside in Atlantic City, I mean,
Speaker 1: that is certainly decision to make, and I'm not exactly
Speaker 1: sure if they had planned it that way or if
Speaker 1: something else had gone on. I know there's a kick
Speaker 1: boxing event that's gonna be taking place inside the show boats,
Speaker 1: so it's certainly a decision to make, and I just
Speaker 1: hope for the people that are going that the weather
Speaker 1: actually holds out for him a little bit, because that's
Speaker 1: a man fifty degrees with the wind coming off the water.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's gonna be under fifty degrees with the
Speaker 1: possibility to rain with the wind coming off the water
Speaker 1: like that. It is uh again, I man, I feel
Speaker 1: bad for the people that are gonna be working out there,
Speaker 1: although some of those people work during the pandemic outside,
Speaker 1: including and I think it was where did they move
Speaker 1: the collective Indianapolis, because I guess it was helped out
Speaker 1: along by spider Nate web or uh that was able
Speaker 1: to get a park to let g C w in
Speaker 1: And and for those people that had to perform outside
Speaker 1: in the sun, I remember that was the same way
Speaker 1: in Atlantic City. In fact, at the pier. You know,
Speaker 1: at least it's not during the day where you have
Speaker 1: to worry about all the sun and shadows and things
Speaker 1: like that that you know, as a fan you may
Speaker 1: not think about, but when you're in the ring, it
Speaker 1: probably throws you off. A little bit. Sad news for
Speaker 1: anybody looking to vote for Dwayne Johnson to be your
Speaker 1: president of the United States coming up. He is rolling
Speaker 1: out the run for president. Apparently told CBS UH in
Speaker 1: an interview that are that will air on Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: UH that he does not want to run for president.
Speaker 1: Says it's off the table. Yes, it's off the table.
Speaker 1: I will say this because it requires a b side
Speaker 1: to this. I love our country and everyone in it.
Speaker 1: I also love being a daddy, and that's the most
Speaker 1: important thing to me, is being a daddy number one,
Speaker 1: especially during this time, this critical time in my daughter's lives,
Speaker 1: because I know what was like to be on the
Speaker 1: road and be so busy that I was absent for
Speaker 1: a lot of the years when my first daughter was
Speaker 1: growing up in these critical in these critical ages, at
Speaker 1: this critical time in their life. And that's what the
Speaker 1: presidency will do. Sure, CEO sounds great, But the number
Speaker 1: one thing I want to be is daddy, and that
Speaker 1: is it probably a smart thing to do, you know,
Speaker 1: I uh, I don't know. I don't know. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the rock running for president when you've never served any
Speaker 1: public office, and I know, you know, the experience levels
Speaker 1: when it comes to the presidency has gotten less and
Speaker 1: less in this country. But I know he announced that
Speaker 1: we killed the Osama bin Laden and all, and he
Speaker 1: had some sort of connect that way. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, really, really, it's so I you know,
Speaker 1: I any thought of him running for president too, I mean,
Speaker 1: it drags up a whole bunch of things, not only
Speaker 1: from your past, but from your family's past, and is
Speaker 1: that something that you really want. Forget about the fact
Speaker 1: that you're gonna lose time with your daughters, what about
Speaker 1: the fact that you're gonna have people in the media
Speaker 1: and muck breakers and everything else, really diving deep into
Speaker 1: every single family member looking for some sort of dirt,
Speaker 1: looking for some sort of story to bring up, and
Speaker 1: doesn't sound very appetizing to me. So it's just to me.
Speaker 1: I never took it seriously anyway. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of other people did, and maybe you know he was
Speaker 1: dead serious about doing it, But I am more than
Speaker 1: happy that that is not happening. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: for everybody listening to on Sports Byline for sports the
Speaker 1: middle of the sixth right now, still no score. St.
Speaker 1: Louis and Philadelphia here is the NL wild Card Games
Speaker 1: has kicked off here and again. Some of these changes
Speaker 1: are going to affect programming when it comes to a
Speaker 1: W especially here coming up again hockey season starting. You know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people who get upset
Speaker 1: again when you look at the NHL's ratings in comparison
Speaker 1: to a w and you go, my god, You know,
Speaker 1: wrestling gets x amount of times better ratings for you know,
Speaker 1: against most hockey games, but prestige sport, you know, whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not, they're the ones who are
Speaker 1: going to make out and obviously bring in the advertisers
Speaker 1: and can do things that a w doesn't. So they're
Speaker 1: always going to be in that situation when it comes
Speaker 1: to the four major sports, even hockey, which in this
Speaker 1: country again is it can be a little bit shaky. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see here, what else we got going on in
Speaker 1: the world. I don't have a super uh, I don't
Speaker 1: have a super Twitter or whatever to to to to follow,
Speaker 1: so I can't really hype that up. And great Firefox
Speaker 1: is now crashed as well too. And I'm just expecting
Speaker 1: at this point in the game for the computer to
Speaker 1: melt down fully as it did a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and this time line to just die and this microphone
Speaker 1: to die, and then then I'm just stuck waiting to die.
Speaker 1: But at least I'll be watching a whole lot of
Speaker 1: pro wrestling along the way. Here is I'm not able
Speaker 1: to bring anything up is it's a blank screen. Now,
Speaker 1: hopefully you can still hear me. I assume you can
Speaker 1: still hear me. Of course, if if, if, if any
Speaker 1: of the producers were yelling in my ear, I you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to tell that as I stall
Speaker 1: terribly empathetically trying to get to this break here as
Speaker 1: I try to bring the camera back up for all
Speaker 1: of you who now lost it being on being on
Speaker 1: YouTube or being on Twitch. I am so happy to
Speaker 1: get this stupid week over with. I really really am
Speaker 1: in my back and my back. We got the giraffe.
Speaker 1: There's the giraffe. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly how this week was, folks,
Speaker 1: Just terrible, terrible. Somebody getting drafty in here to punch
Speaker 1: out the rest of this week so we can all
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here and go home. Thank god,
Speaker 1: there's the end music. We'll be right back. Ye you're
Speaker 1: listening to Wrestling Observer Live on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Al right back on this show, Mike Semper BB here
Speaker 1: with you still. I'm assuming you can hear me, at
Speaker 1: least I believe now you can see me again too.
Speaker 1: I think this was the perfect period to put on
Speaker 1: the sentence that was this week. It felt like a
Speaker 1: prison sentence at times for me, but damn it, we
Speaker 1: survive because that's what we do. And I always have
Speaker 1: the I always have professional wrestling at least that I can.
Speaker 1: They can keep me going and keep me inspired to
Speaker 1: want to get through things here. And if if you
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Speaker 1: other news that is taking place in the world of
Speaker 1: professional wrestling and mixed martial arts. And it is going
Speaker 1: to be a very busy weekend. Talked about g c W,
Speaker 1: We talked about extreme roles coming up here in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: We've got Smacked Down tonight, we have Rampage Slash Battle
Speaker 1: of the Belts tonight live from Washington, d C. You
Speaker 1: have cards going on all over the world, including this
Speaker 1: Impact Wrestling Bound for Glory show, which I am actually
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing. One of the reasons why is
Speaker 1: because I believe that Jordan Graysh and Mansta Slamovich can
Speaker 1: be a really, really good match, and I really like
Speaker 1: Masha slam Vivic a lot uh Jordan Grace. You know
Speaker 1: the angle that they did with Masha's flipping over the
Speaker 1: table on top of her saying she was gonna kill her.
Speaker 1: I thought that came across really well. It's impossible for
Speaker 1: me to believe that Josh Alexander and Eddie Edwards will
Speaker 1: not be a good match. I know that r O
Speaker 1: H fans in the moment at the time, really we're
Speaker 1: not big fans, some of them of Mike Bennett and
Speaker 1: Matt Taban. But when you take your personal opinions on
Speaker 1: what you wanted r OH to be or or them
Speaker 1: out of the mix, they're really very very good. They're
Speaker 1: really good as a team. Are they as good as
Speaker 1: the Motor City machine Guns? I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I had argued that the MotorCity machine Guns are a
Speaker 1: certainly of the two thousands, They're a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: two thousands tag team, and that match is going to
Speaker 1: probably be pretty damn good. Same thing with Speedball, Mike
Speaker 1: Bailey and Frankie Kazarian. Since Speedball has been back in
Speaker 1: the country, haven't seen a bad match with him. It's
Speaker 1: almost impossible. So I am really looking forward to this
Speaker 1: Impact Wrestling Show tonight, So whatever your style of wrestling is,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be there for you. She'll talk to you
Speaker 1: all again after a while. You have been listening to
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