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Speaker 1: that's the proximly about seven months ago when we talked,

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Speaker 1: about eight months ago, when we talked and and you

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Speaker 1: first of all, I can tell there's a difference in

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Speaker 1: you know, I really really appreciate that. Um. I've been

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Speaker 1: So do you have any employees? Are you there by yourself? How?

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