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Speaker 2: Welcome in What's Driving the Great? Episode two twenty five

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Speaker 2: ton to Do Today? Fun Show, Great night in the

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Speaker 2: NBA last night, the first time in a while, Producer

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Speaker 2: Daniel didn't have any you know, quippy NBA comments for

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Speaker 2: me because his Nuggets got blasted by the Suns. By

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Speaker 2: the way, that kind of annoyed me. I would like

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Speaker 2: to I would have liked the Nuggets actually show up

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Speaker 2: last night, beat the Suns, help the Lakers move out

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Speaker 2: of that ninth spot. We'll get to all of that.

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Speaker 2: Draymond Green could barely be bothered to show up for

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Speaker 2: work all of that demands here wearing new shades. I

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Speaker 2: liked the ones last time. More, I'm gonna send you

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Speaker 2: a pair of nice shades. Now you're gonna lose them,

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Speaker 2: which is unfortunate, but I'm gonna send them to you anyway.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say that demonse is an indictment on you.

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Speaker 2: It's just because sunglasses are like the number one thing

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Speaker 2: people lose, which is why people tend not to want

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Speaker 2: to spend a lot of money on them. But I'll

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Speaker 2: send you some nice shades. I like the look. I

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Speaker 2: just think the white framestone shar as good as the

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Speaker 3: Howr And I'm pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I think I think I'll be able to hold on

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Speaker 4: to them, though, Well we can take out.

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Speaker 2: If I send you some nice ones, you'll hold on

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Speaker 2: to them, Okay, all right, good, So I'll send you

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Speaker 2: some nice ones, or I'll just give them to you

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Speaker 2: in person when I see you in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: All right, Here's what missed the cut for today's show,

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Speaker 2: Jade and Daniel's elbow. Everyone's freaking out because everyone uses

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Speaker 2: Bursa sack. Like guys, Yes, the elbow looks funny. No,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with him. He does. It's just fluid

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Speaker 2: at the bottom of his arm. It's all it is.

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Speaker 2: You know how I figured that out? I googled it,

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Speaker 2: good old let me see which one I went to yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Com It did look photoshot. But then you're just like, hey,

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Speaker 2: why would someone have that on the bottom of their arm,

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Speaker 2: And the answer is it's a bursa sack. It happens

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh says he's living in an RV and classic

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Speaker 2: our brilliant deposition on gambling on Tuesday. It was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So all of that missed. The cut. Demons were starting

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Speaker 2: I was the league pass was popping last night, but

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Speaker 4: Explained to the audience, all Right, yeah, so, on a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the story with Draymond? I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: No Clay's played better lately, and he was coming off

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Speaker 2: But Steph is now going to be forced to make

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Speaker 2: Gotta choose. Impossible to do both, and so Steph Curry

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Speaker 2: now thanks to a lot of factors. But I would

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Speaker 4: The Warriors, there was something there before, and I think

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Speaker 3: I think that could have been unlocked, and he probably not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I listen, I don't think Jordan Poole

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Speaker 2: But it's the you. You could have. You could have

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Speaker 2: And so now Steph Curry has to choose what is

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Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if like, okay, the Warriors were

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Speaker 2: guess my last piece of it. Everyone else is at

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Speaker 4: All right, So Monday, Anthony Davis went off carrying the

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Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I I don't think that you

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Speaker 4: That statement might make a lot of sense for quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: like Justin Herbert or Patrick Holmes. Do you think that

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Speaker 4: makes sense for Rock Party? Are they going down the road?

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Speaker 2: Well? A couple of things, And on clarification, Jed York

431
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Speaker 2: is closer to team owner than GM. John Lynch is

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Speaker 2: really the GM. I know it's listed as GM. I

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Speaker 2: should have fixed that. Jed York is the CEO and

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Speaker 2: basically the owner of the team saying this, it also

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Speaker 2: should be noted. But per the CBA, they're not allowed

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Speaker 2: to pay Party this year, so they have to wait

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Speaker 2: another year, and Jed York can say whatever he wants.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you the Niners are not one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: certain they're paying Brock Party. Yet there's not and we'll

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Speaker 2: see how this year goes. My guess is that after

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Speaker 2: this year they find a reason to wait another year

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Speaker 2: and see they've got him for the next two years

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Speaker 2: at a million bucks and they can use the franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: This guy's got no leverage, and deep down, when he's

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Speaker 2: being honest, Kyle Shanahan knows what everyone knows that the

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Speaker 2: moment Brock Party where to go from one million fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollars and you have to pluck away a lot

448
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Speaker 2: of those weapons and that roster he is not going

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Speaker 2: to be able to carry you. And I think Ile

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Speaker 2: Shannan's a great coach and a brilliant offensive mind. And

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Speaker 2: I said this about Tua and Mike McDaniel, and I

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Speaker 2: will say it about shanahan and Purty. I grade McDaniel

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Speaker 2: and Shanahan on a curve of look at what they're

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Speaker 2: doing despite the limitations forced upon them at quarterback. If

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Speaker 2: either one of those guys sign off on that quarterback

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Speaker 2: becoming one of the highest paid quarterbacks in football, that

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Speaker 2: curve goes away, goes away entirely, and you are now listen.

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Speaker 2: You are judged as if you have a great quarterback

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Speaker 2: because you paid him as if you were a great quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: An interesting, interesting debate ignited online yesterday. If a hypothetical

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Speaker 4: draft allowed you to choose between Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 4: or Andrew Luck coming out of college, who would you pick?

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Speaker 4: For those watching on YouTube or showing a tweet?

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Speaker 2: But so this is just based purely on their pro profile, right,

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Speaker 2: Like this is based on pedigree. If they were all

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Speaker 2: fresh out of college in the same draft, I would

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Speaker 2: have it. I me, personally, I would go Caleb, Trevor Luck.

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Speaker 2: In reality, it would go Luck, Caleb Trevor, I think

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Speaker 2: the the I think Trevor for me personally, Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: would be my personal what I thought of them coming

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Speaker 2: out of school, Caleb than Trevor, than Luck. What the

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Speaker 2: general consensus would have been as far as like the

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Speaker 2: what scouts would have told you, it's Luck than Caleb

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Speaker 2: than Trevor. And this is the difference between pedigree, profile,

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Speaker 2: how what type of prospect you are and what type

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Speaker 2: of pro you are? The what? And I also think

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Speaker 2: era kind of matters even within this small decade long sample,

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Speaker 2: Caleb is more valuable today than he would have been

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Speaker 2: a decade ago, because today teams are more open to

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Speaker 2: the mobilerick, you know, quarterbacks that cannot exactly right, quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: that can operate out of structure. But Luck was considered

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Speaker 2: the best prospects since Lway, and Luck is still considered

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Speaker 2: the best prospects since Lway. They Trevor was considered the

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Speaker 2: best prospects since Luck. Caleb is considered the best prospects

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Speaker 2: since Luck a better prospect than Trevor. All right, quick break,

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Speaker 2: come back talk a little Caitlin Clark, and then some

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Speaker 2: NFL over unders do that next, What's right? All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back in episode two twenty five, What's right in

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Speaker 2: the right Before we get to the NFL win totals.

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Speaker 2: Demonte let's talk to Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, So Kaitlin Clark is a bigger lock

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Speaker 4: to go number one in the w NBA than Caleb

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Speaker 4: is in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So the INDIANAFA fever.

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Speaker 2: Equal locks. That's that's incorrect, equal locks, but go ahead equal.

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Speaker 3: They were just saying, JJ CA, I haven't heard any.

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Speaker 2: Time nobody, hold on who said that? Hold on pause?

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Speaker 2: Who said JJ McCartney might go first over Caleb? Nobody

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Speaker 2: said expected him he might go second. No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaum maybe said that he should. But the Bears

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Speaker 2: drafting Caleb number one is minus four thousand, I think.

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, just keep going.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, ice Cube seemed to confirm that he offered

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Speaker 4: he offered Kaylin Clark for his three on three Basketball

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Speaker 4: League five million dollars to join the league over the summer.

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Speaker 3: What would you do if you were in Kayln Clark's shoes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is where I like ice Cube a lot.

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Speaker 2: Ice Cube's son oddly really doesn't like me. Oh Shay

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Speaker 2: Jackson Junior, Yeah, well he's uh, he's an actor. He

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Speaker 2: was in that what was a great heist movie? Uh, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was the He was in an awesome movie. I

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Speaker 2: wish I could oh Den of Thieves. He's been in

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Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff. He obviously was in Straight out

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Speaker 2: of Compton, but he was in Den of Thieves, which

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Speaker 2: is a great movie. And I'm not trying to disrespect

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Speaker 2: ice Cube. Put me down as not believing this. Put

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Speaker 2: put me down as if the If the story is

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Speaker 2: that Caitlin Clark has the opportunity to join the Big

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Speaker 2: Three and get a guaranteed five million dollars, If that

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Speaker 2: is the story, I do not believe that to be accurate.

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Speaker 4: I do not believe you think she should have obviously

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Speaker 4: have gone it taken taken it up?

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Speaker 2: Uh I I I don't think that. Let me let

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Speaker 2: me see if I can find this real quick. I

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Speaker 2: found it yesterday. So the I I don't think that

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Speaker 2: the Big Three.

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Speaker 3: Has five million to give the No.

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Speaker 2: I think they have five million, but I don't I

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Speaker 2: think it would. I think five million dollars represents too

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Speaker 2: large of a percentage of the Big Three's total value

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Speaker 2: to make this story the way it is being presented accurate.

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Speaker 2: Now do I think it's in play that there is

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Speaker 2: an offer for Caitlin Clark to play in the Big

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Speaker 2: Three and get what is being purported as five million

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Speaker 2: dollars of value. Sure is it? You know, gets a

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Speaker 2: percentage stake in the league, which if the league is

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Speaker 2: valued at X and your percent is why that's worth

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Speaker 2: four million bucks plus will pay you a million cash? Yeah? Maybe,

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Speaker 2: But if what is being if it is being if

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Speaker 2: the story is Caitlin Clark can play one season of

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Speaker 2: the Big Three and get a check that you can

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Speaker 2: go to your local bank and cash for five million dollars,

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Speaker 2: she will obviously do that, and I just don't think

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Speaker 2: that's gonna happen. I think that this is really good publicity.

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Speaker 2: I think it's interesting, this was what we have. We

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: don't do a great job these days of following up

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Speaker 2: on stories or asking to me the obvious questions of

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Speaker 2: the finer details of stories. So I could be proven

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Speaker 2: wrong here, but I don't don't believe this story as

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Speaker 2: it's being reported, and you can be like reported ice

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00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Cube said it, I do not believe that Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 2: has the option of getting five million dollars in cash

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Speaker 2: money to play in the Big Three. I don't think

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00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: that's true. And so we'll see, We'll see if I'm right. Uh,

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00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: just go ahead and mark this down. My guess. My

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Speaker 2: guess is the offer is substantially less cash and a

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Speaker 2: lot of theoretical equity or something that on paper you

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Speaker 2: can say has a five million dollar value. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Kind of sound like a hater right now, but just kind.

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Speaker 2: Of why Why do I sound like a hater? Let's

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Speaker 2: talk through. I'm being serious. Let me hear, because I'm

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Speaker 2: sure a lot of people agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Five million dollars, Like, there's no way Ice Cube could

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Speaker 4: have offered a five million dollars to come play over

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Speaker 4: the summer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's Kaitlyn Clark, She's huge. It'd probably be

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Speaker 4: the biggest star for that. I don't know who's been

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Speaker 4: in ice qu'es Big three league, but probably one of

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Speaker 4: the bigger stars.

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Speaker 3: That's no, she.

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Speaker 2: Would be the biggest, huge straw all of the above.

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Speaker 2: I you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and make

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Speaker 2: the announcement. I haven't publicly said it, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: go ahead and make the announcement. I've got on the

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Speaker 2: table sitting out there, a ten million dollar offer for

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes to replace you. Demonse on the what's right

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Speaker 2: with the great podcast? Now, you might say, Nick, how

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Speaker 2: do you have ten million cash? Well, here's the way

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Speaker 2: that that offer is gonna work. Actually, I believe that

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Speaker 2: this podcast would instantly be worth fifty million if Patrick

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Speaker 2: were to sign up for it. So my offer is

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Speaker 2: actually a twenty percent ownership stake, which at a fifty

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Speaker 2: million dollar valuation, is worth ten million dollars for him

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Speaker 2: to take your seat offers out there ten million bucks.

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Speaker 2: That to me is more likely the line we're taking,

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Speaker 2: rather than I've got a check ready. So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: You can call me a hater. I call myself a

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Speaker 2: uh realist with a slight dose dose of healthy skepticism.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see, and I'm sure some intrepid journalists will

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Speaker 2: follow up on this story consistently, So we'll just see.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to NFL totals.

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Speaker 4: All right, We're we're doing we're doing gambling Goldilocks today,

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Speaker 4: NFL WIN Talking edition. We've got Yeah, that that's really cute.

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Speaker 4: Where's okay?

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Speaker 2: I didn't? Oh I was. That's pretty good guy.

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Speaker 4: This is how it works, NFL win told us for

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four dropped, So we're gonna dig in with

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Speaker 4: gambling goldie lucks. So start first off, we got the

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Speaker 4: Bears at eight and a half in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: they finished with a seven to ten record. Does Keenan

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Speaker 4: Allen and Caleb Williams equal two more wins? Is the

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Speaker 4: eight and a half too high?

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Speaker 3: Too low? Or just right for Chicago?

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Speaker 2: Too low? This is one of my favorite pre you know,

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Speaker 2: preliminary bets. The Bears are gonna win at least nine games.

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Speaker 2: I mean the very listen. It's not just Keenan Allen.

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00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 2: It's it's a full year of Montese sweat. It's whoever

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Speaker 2: they draft ninth overall, which could be the second best tackle,

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00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the third best receiver, Brock Bauers, an impact defensive player.

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00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: It's Keenan Allen's DeAndre Swift is the different moves. They've

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00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: made a massive upgrade at quarterback. They won seven games

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00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: last year, and so yes, I love the Bears over

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Speaker 2: that is too low? Next?

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Speaker 3: So called that one.

619
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Speaker 4: The Chargers have lost some key pieces but should be rebounding.

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00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: Plus they have Jim Harball coming in to turning things around.

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00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 4: Is eight and a half too high? Too lower?

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00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 3: Just right for the Chargers?

623
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: Just right, and listen, I think that this is gonna

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00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: be year one of a on the fly rebuild. They obviously,

625
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: and I don't think they're gonna draft Marvin Harrison or

626
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: Elak Neighbors at five. I think they're gonna trade out

627
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: of that pick and acquire more picks. I think that

628
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: is a prime spot for Minnesota to trade eleven and

629
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Speaker 2: twenty three to get that pick. So because of that,

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Speaker 2: I do not I simply don't see ah. I don't

631
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: see a quick turnaround for the Chargers. They'll be better

632
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: than last year, but last year they won like five

633
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: six games, so I think eight and a half is

634
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: just right.

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00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: Next all right, The Bills gutted their team this offseason,

636
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 4: but it seems that Vegas can't quit. Josh Allen, their

637
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 4: win total did not budge from last year.

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Speaker 3: Is ten and a half? Too high, too lower? Just

639
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: right for the Bills, just right.

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Speaker 2: This is right, Listen. They I would be very surprised

641
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Speaker 2: if they won nine games. I'd be very surprised if

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00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: they won thirteen games. Ten eleven, twelve is right where

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Speaker 2: they should land. And so the if I had to

644
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Speaker 2: bet on the Bills, I would actually go over because

645
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Speaker 2: I think that Vegas has will get to him in

646
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: a moment, but overvalued the Jets, so I think that

647
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: they probably have the Bills splitting with the Jets like

648
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: they did last year, so I think this is just right.

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Speaker 2: I think that the Bills are probably eleven and six,

650
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: so ten and a half is just right next all right.

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys didn't have the best offseason either, but I

652
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: guess they do get to play the Giants twice. Is

653
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: ten and a half too high to low? Or just

654
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: right for the Cowboys too low?

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00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: So Dallas gets four games against Washington and the Giants

656
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Speaker 2: obviously two games against the Eagles, so they should be

657
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: five and one right there. They've got the Let me,

658
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: let me get the rest of their twenty twenty four schedule.

659
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: Make sure I have it right. They're cross. They get

660
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: the NFC South, which is, in my opinion, the worst

661
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: division in football. So you get Carolina, you get New Orleans,

662
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: you get Tampa, you get Atlanta. They get the AFC North,

663
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 2: which is brutal, obviously, and they have the first place schedule.

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Speaker 2: But the Cowboys win twelve games every year.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: The question for the Cowboys is not are they you know,

667
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna be good in the regular season. The question is

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00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: the postseason. So I think that's too low. Next, no

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Speaker 2: one knows what to do with the Jets.

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Speaker 4: But now their quarterback, now that their quarterback won't be

671
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: vice president, they actually have a decent roster on paper.

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Speaker 3: Is nine and a half too high? Too lower? Just

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Speaker 3: right for the Jets?

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Speaker 2: Too high? I mean, I just I don't. I don't

675
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Speaker 2: understand the smoke surrounding the Jets. People like, ah, they

676
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: won seven games last year with bad quarterback play. Aaron

677
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: Rodgers is gonna be forty one years old. Guys this season,

678
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: he's coming off in Achilles. They they are they They

679
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: decided to replace their old injured offensive line with old

680
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: injury prone players. They have the maybe the worst coach

681
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Speaker 2: in football. Like that that they're not gonna win ten games,

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Speaker 2: So that to me is absolutely unequivocally too high.

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Speaker 4: Next, well, it finally be the year that you quit

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Speaker 4: the Jaguars. Dumb questions, should I just say too.

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Speaker 3: And can we move on? Is eight and a half,

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Speaker 3: two high, two lowers, just right for the Jags.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, it's probably just right. So here's the thing. I really, well,

688
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: no I trust Trevor, but I hated their offseason. Obviously

689
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: the division got better in that it's year two of C. J.

690
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: Stroud and the Colts with Anthony Richardson coming back could

691
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: be interesting. I don't love the Jags offensive coordinator. I

692
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: don't love the GM and so I want to believe

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Speaker 2: in the Jags because of how much I believe in Trevor,

694
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Speaker 2: but I don't love the roster and so you know,

695
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: fighting for one of those final playoff spots is probably

696
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: how this is gonna go for the Jags. It's unfortunate,

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00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: it is squandering Trevor's rookie contract. It's unconscious some of

698
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: the mismanagement they've had with this team. And last year

699
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: it was you know, they were eight and three and

700
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Trevor got hurt, and everyone wants to pretend like that

701
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: didn't happen, but that is what happened. This was an

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00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: eight and three team and their quarterback got hurt. But

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Speaker 2: I losing Ridley, spending money where they've spent it, I

704
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: just don't think it's smart. All right, So there is

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Speaker 2: a quick look at the we'll do the whole league

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00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: post draft for the over unders take a quick break

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Speaker 2: come back. The Chiefs signed a rugby star will do

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Speaker 2: that and answer your questions. What's right? Welcome back in

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Speaker 2: What's right with Nick?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: All right? Before we get to the listener questions, de Monsey,

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00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: go ahead, talk to me about the Chiefs and the

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Speaker 2: rugby guy.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 4: So the Chiefs signed a rugby player to play running

716
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: backslash wide receiver. This is an outside of the box

717
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: move and definitely very Andy reidish.

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00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: I feel like, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 2: So a couple things. One is people got to understand

720
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: and this is a free roster spot, so there are

721
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: different because the NFL wants more international players, there's different rules.

722
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: If you sign an international player doesn't count on your

723
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 2: ninety man roster, and if he's on the practice squad

724
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: does not count against the spot on the practice squad.

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00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: So it's a he only counts on your roster if

726
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: he makes the actual game day fifty three man active roster.

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00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it's to play running back wide receiver.

728
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: I think it's to get a look at him with

729
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: the new kick return rules. I think that I think

730
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: that there is real intrigue there and Andy get a

731
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: free look at it. The other person that I think

732
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs could actually be really valuable in the

733
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: return game. Yes, they're not gonna cut him because his

734
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 2: contract's guaranteed. He you know they're gonna He's gonna be

735
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: moved down the wide receiver depth chart by the draft,

736
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: by Hollywood Brown, all of that. But with the ball

737
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: in his hands, he's dynamic. So I think this is

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Speaker 2: I think it is an intriguing free look at a

739
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: guy that I think is actually super sharp by them,

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00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 2: and I like, all right, let's get to the listener questions.

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00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: Uh, Peter Deeve said, Nick pushed the Luca MVP agenda.

742
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 4: MAVs are very close to the four seed.

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're if they were to get to

744
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: the four seed, you could make the case. The fact

745
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: of the matter is Joker's gonna win the MVP. This

746
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: has kind of been set in stone. I think Giannis

747
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: has a legitimate case. I think Luca has a legitimate case.

748
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: Joker as the defending champ when people thought he should

749
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: have won last year. I'm fine with him winning it,

750
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: but Luca being so far down the odds rankings, to me,

751
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: is is ludicrous. But Joker's gonna win it. Tatum does

752
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: not have a legitimate case. Sorry, he's on the best team.

753
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 4: Next, So Ali, whose idea is it's to start start

754
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: doing the post show interviews on first things?

755
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: First, they're so great.

756
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: Our great social media producer Laurie gets credit. Wilds will

757
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: try to take the credit, but Laurie gets all the

758
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: credit for that. She does a great job with all

759
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: that stuff.

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00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 4: Next, Rico Am asked, who do you think the Chiefs

761
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: could get in the first round that would truly be

762
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 4: an impact player.

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00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: I want Lad McConkie, the slot receiver from Georgia. We've

764
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: never had that type of player with Mahomes, he's the

765
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: guy I want. I know a lot of people thing

766
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: Troy Franklin or Adam and I Mitchell the different wide receivers.

767
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: I also, if one of the excellent tackles falls, that's

768
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: what they should do. But I don't know if any

769
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: of those great tackles are gonna fall. Next.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Indy xtent question for Nick, what are the chances

771
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: that Jerry Jones tries to pull a Chiefs move by

772
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 4: trading up for quarterback in round one?

773
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: I think that's unlikely. I think that there's the the

774
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks are gonna go so high that I don't

775
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: think that's a likely move for Dallas. I also think

776
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't think they're excited about moving off Dak. I

777
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 2: just think they're open to the possibility of moving off

778
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: him in a year. All right, and then uh, go

779
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: ahead and the go ahead, and let's do Ryan Heffernan's demonse.

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00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 4: Ryan Heffernan, if you don't answer a Royals question on opening.

781
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: Day, well, listen, there haven't been any Royals questions. I mean,

782
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: go Bobby wit Junior. Bobby wit Junior is the only

783
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: like the Royals are not gonna be really good. The

784
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: question is do we have a superstar? Hopefully we do,

785
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: and hopefully we can build around it. Like that's the

786
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: reality of it. And I will you know, my interest

787
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball's regular season is directly correlated with

788
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: if the Royals are good. When the Royals were good,

789
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 2: I used to get MLBXRA. I was watching regular season

790
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 2: baseball all the time when the Royal stink I'll see

791
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 2: you in October. So this is probably a i'll see

792
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: you in October baseball season. And then Prime Lebron said,

793
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of dorks behind the camera because we

794
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 2: showed the control room. That's unfair. And there's a couple

795
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: doors behind the camera. It's not everybody. I mean, it's

796
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: it's not it's not everybody. Here's a couple dorks behind

797
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: the camera. I'm not gonna you know, name names, but

798
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: that's just a couple that was that was unnecessary. Prime

799
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 2: Lebron all right, great job everyone, great job. Demand's a

800
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 2: oh and Patrick mahomes in for the show. See just now,

801
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: I am gonna take a shot at the producers. Yeah, guys, producers.

802
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: Just so you guys know, I understand you guys worked

803
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 2: very hard on these photoshops. If I very clearly and

804
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: intentionally skip over the question in in the rundown that

805
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: allows me to bring this up, it's probably because I

806
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: saw it in preview and didn't think we should put

807
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: it on the air. Just for the record, it's not like, oh,

808
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: Nick missed it. Let's make sure listen, you miss one

809
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 2: entrepren of the shots you don't take. I'm not mad

810
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: at you for taking the shot. But if I say,

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00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: all right, that's it for the show, let's move on,

812
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: don't just jump me with the graphic that I thought was,

813
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not white camera ready that's all. Demand's

814
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: great job producers, great job listeners, great job. See you

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Speaker 2: guys on TV today at three.

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