Speaker 1: What about your boss makes you believe that he has
Speaker 1: the ability to levy curses.
Speaker 2: I had everything going great for me, and then as
Speaker 2: soon as I started working there a month in, I
Speaker 2: wrecked my bike.
Speaker 3: And there's like if you turn around for like just
Speaker 3: a minute and then you turn back around again, the
Speaker 3: man will just be gone.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, let's get into this. Let's get
Speaker 1: into this here.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, hey man, is this Lyle therapy techo?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is this Luke?
Speaker 2: Yes? It is.
Speaker 1: How are you, Luke?
Speaker 2: I could definitely be better.
Speaker 1: You could definitely be better. Yes, I can hear distraughtness
Speaker 1: in your voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know exactly what the call screener wrote down, but.
Speaker 1: Uh well, let's forget about what the call screener wrote down.
Speaker 1: Why don't we want to just tell me what you
Speaker 1: what did you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: Just a couple of days ago, I went up towards
Speaker 2: my old work where I ended up getting fired from,
Speaker 2: and went sort of cliff jumping. The jumps were not
Speaker 2: necessarily cliffs, and I ended up breaking my spine just
Speaker 2: by hitting the water. And not even five minutes after that,
Speaker 2: my dog ran away. Okay, not exactly sure what caused
Speaker 2: it because it was just kind of an unexplainable freak accident.
Speaker 2: But past October I ended up wrecking my motorcycle that
Speaker 2: I had bought from the same place I worked at,
Speaker 2: and I was pretty close to the place that I
Speaker 2: had worked at. So I think my boss, who had
Speaker 2: always had it out for me, may have something to
Speaker 2: do with that.
Speaker 1: You know, I know I said to forget about what
Speaker 1: the call screener said, but it says here that you're
Speaker 1: convinced that your boss cursed you, and that is why
Speaker 1: you believe you have been the subject of so much misfortune.
Speaker 2: Yes, I had everything going great for me up until
Speaker 2: I ended up working at this place. And then as
Speaker 2: soon as I started working there a month in I
Speaker 2: wrecked my bike and then I spent a month in
Speaker 2: the hospital.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I got hold on, so hold on,
Speaker 1: so hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get into this.
Speaker 1: Let's get into this here. You believe your boss cursed you, Yes,
Speaker 1: like in some sort of mythical way, he put a
Speaker 1: spell on you.
Speaker 2: That or he cursed the bike. There's there's a million
Speaker 2: different things that he could have done specifically.
Speaker 1: So why do you believe that he would want to
Speaker 1: curse you.
Speaker 2: I mean, he had it out for me from day one,
Speaker 2: and I was probably the only employee there that actually
Speaker 2: stood up against him most of the time. There were
Speaker 2: occasionally a few other employees that acted out, but I
Speaker 2: was the rebel.
Speaker 1: M what kinds of things would you stand up against
Speaker 1: him for?
Speaker 2: Just general unfair treatment? Like it was a it was
Speaker 2: a motorcycle dealership, and I was a technician, so I
Speaker 2: supposed to be working on the bikes, but instaid he
Speaker 2: would have me or other people going and like cleaning
Speaker 2: the floors or cleaning the restrooms.
Speaker 1: So do you believe that your boss has some kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know if you magic is the word,
Speaker 1: But would you believe he has some sort of magical
Speaker 1: powers that he can use to curse you? What about
Speaker 1: your boss makes you believe that he has the ability
Speaker 1: to levy curses.
Speaker 2: So I actually have a buddy that worked there with
Speaker 2: me here with me right now, and he was going
Speaker 2: to help me explain some of this. But my boss
Speaker 2: was from Louisiana before he moved here to Texas, and
Speaker 2: of course in the area that he was in, voodoo
Speaker 2: magic was quite common. So my buddy here has witnessed
Speaker 2: some sort of unexplainable things revolving around the boss. He
Speaker 2: can get more into that if you like.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk to him real quick. Hell, hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's your name? My name is Nathan, Nathan. Okay, Nathan.
Speaker 1: So you work with Luke correct?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well whenever whenever he still worked there with us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you worked with him, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: he told you everything that was going on in his
Speaker 1: life with a motorcycle accident and his his cliff jumping accident,
Speaker 1: and his dog and all these sort of negative things
Speaker 1: that are going on, and he believes that they're all
Speaker 1: happening as a result of a curse put on him
Speaker 1: by your boss, his former boss. What is your take
Speaker 1: on that?
Speaker 3: So, honestly, I've like, well, my boss, he's just kind
Speaker 3: of like a really he's a really weird dude. And
Speaker 3: there's like you can if you turn around for like
Speaker 3: just a minute, and then you turn back around again,
Speaker 3: the man will just be gone. He'll just kind of
Speaker 3: like disappear. And then it's like like he's he's always
Speaker 3: sending us on this like trivial tasks, and then like
Speaker 3: he'll be back and he'll just like he'll he'll be
Speaker 3: like completely gone, He'll his car will still be there,
Speaker 3: but even like check the whole shop and he's nowhere
Speaker 3: to be seen.
Speaker 1: So you think he is genuinely a supernatural human being.
Speaker 3: So I because of because of all of the like
Speaker 3: stuff that's happened, uh in the last like in the
Speaker 3: last while, since since the initial like motorcycle actment, actually
Speaker 3: like looked up a bunch of this, uh, a bunch
Speaker 3: of like this voodoo stuff, and honestly, it kind of
Speaker 3: seems exactly exactly the the the kind of stuff he'd
Speaker 3: be doing.
Speaker 5: He he he.
Speaker 3: Is a spiteful man, and it is a little bit
Speaker 3: suspicious how much how how much like his hatred uh
Speaker 3: effects really everyone he's around.
Speaker 1: M hmm, okay, let me talk back to uh real quick.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, on top of that, there is
Speaker 2: a a second level to the shop that we work
Speaker 2: at that we are just not allowed to step put in. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if anyone there, we immediately get called on the PA
Speaker 2: or on the walkie talkie and told to come back down.
Speaker 6: Due Actually there's some people expired for actually.
Speaker 7: Going up there. M.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think is up there?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I have no idea, and I'm scared to ask.
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to take that bullet and go up there.
Speaker 1: Like m hm so, so I'm on speaker phone with
Speaker 1: both of you guys. That sounds like.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 1: So, Luke, uh, have have you been Do you believe
Speaker 1: the subject of any supernatural magic before in your life
Speaker 1: or is this the first time that you believe?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: You this really be the first time I've ever experienced
Speaker 2: anything like this.
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Have you experienced other supernatural things in your life?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't quite say supernatural, but I have experienced some
Speaker 2: pretty unexplainable things.
Speaker 5: M hm.
Speaker 1: So, Nathan, are you afraid at all of any sort
Speaker 1: of repercussions from your boss now that you've seen what
Speaker 1: happens to Luke?
Speaker 3: See, I was for a while, but kind of in
Speaker 3: this this may have been a bit of an overreaction,
Speaker 3: but I kind of kind of from my from my
Speaker 3: little research, like Binge started taking some precautions, like like
Speaker 3: I always have like a kind of protection like crystal
Speaker 3: on me. I'm kind of like hoping that that'll ward
Speaker 3: off ward off some of the scary, the scary shit
Speaker 3: from happening.
Speaker 1: Mm So, in your research, where you you've sort of
Speaker 1: learned about these uh proactive protective measures like carrying these crystals. Yes,
Speaker 1: but have you learned about anything reactive after the fact,
Speaker 1: after having had a curse levied on you that you
Speaker 1: believe that Luke could use in defense?
Speaker 3: I have, but from what I've seen is a whole
Speaker 3: lot more complicated. There's like a lot of like, I
Speaker 3: don't know, the bloodshit freaks me out, so I kind
Speaker 3: of stried to like avoid looking into it. But from
Speaker 3: what I've seen, that's like half of what you can
Speaker 3: do to like get rid of it. I don't know.
Speaker 3: More of what I've seen is that it's easier to
Speaker 3: prevent it from happening, it's a lot harder to like
Speaker 3: undo it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, can you, like you can't you
Speaker 1: can't like tell the police on this guy? Can you?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: It's not? I feel like it's not illegal to curse somebody.
Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's not a crime, unfortunately, Although I
Speaker 3: mean that might be good, like the little separation of
Speaker 3: sures and state. Maybe it's a good thing.
Speaker 4: It's not a crime.
Speaker 1: Have you tried talking directly? I know that I can
Speaker 1: sense that there's a little bit of intimidation there because
Speaker 1: he has his weird secret room and the ability to
Speaker 1: levy uh curses upon people. But if you tried just
Speaker 1: talking to him about this and you know, be even
Speaker 1: bringing up the fact that you think he might have
Speaker 1: cursed you.
Speaker 3: So the thing about this guy is that he's like
Speaker 3: he's a big intimidating dude like this, this guy he,
Speaker 3: if you like, have his focus directly all you. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like you you feel smaller, you feel like
Speaker 3: you're suffocating exactly.
Speaker 6: Yet m.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, guys, you know, I mean, look you personally,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much I believe in curses and
Speaker 1: supernatural things and whatnot. I'm very sorry to hear that
Speaker 1: all of this stuff is happening to you, Luke. I
Speaker 1: don't think you deserve any of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: I hope that you can remain optimistic in the future
Speaker 1: and not let the idea that you are cursed pervade
Speaker 1: throughout your life. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on it. Honestly, After the motorcycle accident,
Speaker 2: I made some pretty significant advancements in my own life
Speaker 2: and hoping that after there's some good things come with
Speaker 2: it too.
Speaker 1: What kind of advancements.
Speaker 2: I got engaged and bought my own house.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'd call that a blessing. That's the opposite of
Speaker 1: a curse.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm not sure it really had anything to
Speaker 2: do with it other than me being motivated to get
Speaker 2: out of the situation I've been stuck in. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: after after spending three months without being able to do
Speaker 2: anything after the motorcycle accident, I was highly motivated to
Speaker 2: change my situation.
Speaker 1: Well, Luke man, listen, I appreciate you telling us all this.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you have a good fit. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you and you and Nathan have a good thing
Speaker 1: going on. So I'm glad that you have a supportive
Speaker 1: friends in light of this curse. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 2: Uh? I mean, if you live in Texas and you
Speaker 2: see a blonde colored dog that's part Border Collie, please
Speaker 2: return it to me. Other than that, I mean, no,
Speaker 2: don't piss off scary Booty Boston.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for calling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's unpack that one. Okay, we have this guy, Luke,
Speaker 1: a sweet man, A sweet man who unfortunately, has had
Speaker 1: some bad things happened to him all at once. I
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna say this while I was I was, I
Speaker 1: might have did. I forget if I said it or not,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to be a dick about it.
Speaker 1: I totally don't believe that that guy was cursed. People
Speaker 1: who do believe in that stuff, you know, power to them.
Speaker 1: Do what you want with your life. But what I
Speaker 1: said at the end there, like, you know, the idea
Speaker 1: of don't let the curse pervade throughout your life is
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of Luke walking around after all
Speaker 1: this bad stuff happened to him with the idea that
Speaker 1: he's cursed. Because while I don't believe in fucking witchcraft
Speaker 1: and crystals and stuff so much, I do believe that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you are I believe in like perspective
Speaker 1: and mindset and all that shit, And if you're walking
Speaker 1: around with the mindset that you're cursed, then it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if more cursed shit happens to you. So
Speaker 1: that's the thing that bothers me the most. I think
Speaker 1: about this whole thing, is the idea of Luke walking
Speaker 1: around thinking that he's he's, you know, living his life
Speaker 1: at the whim of his weird boss. As far as
Speaker 1: what's going on in this or fucking room, no idea
Speaker 1: when you mentioned, I wasn't on boy. In fact, you
Speaker 1: know what, I know, I was just painting myself as
Speaker 1: completely skeptic with no room for doubt. But when he
Speaker 1: brought up the room, I was like, oh, I was
Speaker 1: also a little bit like, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's in that room. There could be a cauldron in
Speaker 1: that room. There could be spells in that room that
Speaker 1: are causing all these things to happen to Luke. Another
Speaker 1: thing I liked about that call was the relationship between
Speaker 1: Luke and his friend. They seemed like they had a
Speaker 1: close bond. They were both united together in the idea
Speaker 1: that their boss is a fucking wizard, which is so
Speaker 1: interesting because if you're I feel like people who believe
Speaker 1: that they've been cursed are typically alone, you know, like,
Speaker 1: you think that your boss cursed you, and you're walking
Speaker 1: around and you're telling your mom and your friends and
Speaker 1: all that, and everyone thinks you're crazy and that just
Speaker 1: makes things worse. But they have each other, and they
Speaker 1: both and then you got and then you got Nathan
Speaker 1: like doing research on to bed you know, to this point,
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess for his own sake, not necessarily
Speaker 1: for his friends, although possibly for his friends. That's why
Speaker 1: I was asking him, you know, you have you found
Speaker 1: any reactive post curse preventative measures for uh, for for Luke.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the camaraderie that I that I witnessed
Speaker 1: between those guys. Towards the end of that call, I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to say. I don't have any advice.
Speaker 1: It is I've said a lot of the times before
Speaker 1: the show is not It's not really about me giving advice.
Speaker 1: It's more about talking through and exploring things. But I
Speaker 1: hope things look up for Luke. These seem like they are.
Speaker 1: It says here, oh shit, it says he's only nineteen,
Speaker 1: so a divorce is probably not that far away. But
Speaker 1: after that he'll he'll Luke has a long life ahead
Speaker 1: of him where I'm sure plenty of awful things will happen,
Speaker 1: and I'm also sure plenty of very wonderful and amazing
Speaker 1: things will happen, And hey, if it makes him feel better,
Speaker 1: then I hope he carries around the crystals of happiness
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it is. I don't understand the crystals,
Speaker 1: but but I don't have to Hello, Hello, Hi as Cam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: holy shit, Hi Lyle, what is going on? Cam?
Speaker 7: Holy shit? Okay, I'm so nervous. I actually called you
Speaker 7: because I have ohne anxiety.
Speaker 1: You know, I talked to a caller before that claimed
Speaker 1: to have phone anxiety. I don't know if I put
Speaker 1: that in one of these podcasts or anything like that,
Speaker 1: but what I found interesting when I talked to them.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what the case is with you,
Speaker 1: but apparently phone anxiety is this very specific thing where, uh,
Speaker 1: there's anxiety on the phone, but not in person. So, like,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If I were standing right
Speaker 1: in front of you and we were looking at each other,
Speaker 1: and we were talking directly to each other's faces but
Speaker 1: not over the phone, would that give you anxiety.
Speaker 7: I'm not generally a pretty anxious person, but I would
Speaker 7: say I would give me way less anxiety than being
Speaker 7: on the phone.
Speaker 1: Really, why is that?
Speaker 7: I think it might be like a fear of miscommunication
Speaker 7: or like not being clearly understood. I don't know exactly
Speaker 7: if that makes sense, but like I kind of I.
Speaker 1: Think it stems from that, that does make sense because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of cues in the face. A large
Speaker 1: percentage of communication is stuff other than the actual words,
Speaker 1: so like the tone, the facial expression, the body language,
Speaker 1: and so you only you're so you're really writing on
Speaker 1: your words and your tone to express yourself. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So you're worried about misrepresenting yourself because it's a phone call, I.
Speaker 7: Think, so, yeah, I'm really afraid I'm going to like
Speaker 7: misspeak and not be able to like correct it or
Speaker 7: like have it be offset by my body language.
Speaker 1: Sure, maybe, Okay, So how in a perfect world, how
Speaker 1: are you representing yourself?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: And then I guess it depends on the conversation. I mean,
Speaker 7: right now, I just want to like, come on, is
Speaker 7: like a chill person trying to have a conversation with
Speaker 7: the gek.
Speaker 1: You you are? You know, It's funny. I've had people
Speaker 1: on this show all the time. I can and I
Speaker 1: can kind of tell when somebody is clearly very nervous,
Speaker 1: but you don't sound like you are.
Speaker 7: I've been told and really good at disguising my anxiety.
Speaker 7: So like that's great. I'm really glad. I'm like shaking
Speaker 7: so bad and my heart is beating so bad.
Speaker 1: I can't tell it all.
Speaker 7: That's good. That's a good life skill.
Speaker 1: I feel like, hmm, okay, So you have phone anxiety,
Speaker 1: so you decided to uh take you decided to call
Speaker 1: into a show so that thousands of people could listen
Speaker 1: to you talk on the phone. Is there anything like
Speaker 1: in particular that you wanted to talk about while we're here?
Speaker 7: Honestly, don't really. I'm just I'm just open to any
Speaker 7: conversation if you want to lead it, or I can
Speaker 7: like say something about like my life, like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: I'm good.
Speaker 1: You sat you you know, I know you said you
Speaker 1: wanted to come off as a chill person, and you're
Speaker 1: coming off pretty chill. You've got that. Uh well, you've
Speaker 1: got that that. I'm down with whatever kind of vibe.
Speaker 7: I appreciate you, Lyle.
Speaker 1: All right, why don't we talk at least briefly about
Speaker 1: uh do you So you said you're a generally anxious person.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, what makes you the most anxious out of anything?
Speaker 7: Public speaking?
Speaker 1: Public speaking? So like, do you consider this to be
Speaker 1: public speaking? Or are we talking like you in front
Speaker 1: of an audience of people? Kind of speaking, I'm.
Speaker 7: Mostly thinking about in front of audiences as people. I
Speaker 7: am in graduate school right now, so I'm like having
Speaker 7: to give presentations to people that are like really well
Speaker 7: like planned out, and that just sends me like over
Speaker 7: the edge.
Speaker 1: Uh. You have to give speeches, and those speeches that
Speaker 1: you are giving are well planned out by you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it's my own research, and like everything.
Speaker 1: Does the fact that they are well planned out? Does
Speaker 1: that empower you? Though? Because you you you sort of
Speaker 1: are going in there with the plan of action. You
Speaker 1: sound like you're well prepared.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you would like think so, but no, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: It's like doesn't really matter what I do. I've taken
Speaker 7: medicine for it, no matter what happens. The second I
Speaker 7: get up in front of people, I just start like
Speaker 7: shaking and like I still get through it. But like
Speaker 7: it's like people always tell me they're like that was good,
Speaker 7: but you seem to really nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a it's a terrifying thing. You know.
Speaker 1: I just did these live shows and I was terrified
Speaker 1: to do that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: The body, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: It's it's funny. The body does whatever it wants. Regardless
Speaker 1: of the mind, right because like before, you know, the
Speaker 1: whole thing of like picture the whole audience in their underwear,
Speaker 1: and like you know, you can you can sort of
Speaker 1: sit there and try to talk to your central nervous
Speaker 1: system and give it all these logical reasons as to
Speaker 1: why you shouldn't feel anxious or nervous, and it just
Speaker 1: won't listen. It'll just do whatever it's sort of it's
Speaker 1: in it's kind of animalistic way, just whatever it's programmed
Speaker 1: to do. It won't listen to your human logic and
Speaker 1: reason because it's acting off of this weird animal instinct
Speaker 1: that I couldn't you know, sort of describe any further
Speaker 1: than that, But.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, that reminds me something one of my friends, Vince,
Speaker 7: told me this one time. It was something like, weird
Speaker 7: gods living in animal bodies. All the logic in the
Speaker 7: world and like all the like brain power in the
Speaker 7: world cannot overcome the fact you're like a pissing, shitting,
Speaker 7: like fucking eating human. And that's just how it is.
Speaker 1: I know, that's one hundred percent true. You're a pissing, shitting,
Speaker 1: coming snotty, sweaty, disgusting animal. But you have the brain
Speaker 1: of a god. It's kind of a wild thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how many of these presentations have you given?
Speaker 7: I had to do three in a row, like last week,
Speaker 7: like the week before last. I did do one on Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 7: and then on Thursday. I was thought to give too
Speaker 7: earlier in the semester.
Speaker 1: And five of them? You don't you done five of
Speaker 1: them by now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so after the r So on the fifth one,
Speaker 1: are you a little Are you a little bit less
Speaker 1: nervous than you were on the first one or the same?
Speaker 7: You would think so, so I was like, probably just
Speaker 7: as nervous, if not more, because the stakes were hired
Speaker 7: For the last one I had to do. It was
Speaker 7: like a twenty minute long presentation or as reading from
Speaker 7: the script that I wrote. And like again, you would
Speaker 7: think the script would make you feel better about it,
Speaker 7: but not me. I was just like queaking the entire
Speaker 7: time I.
Speaker 5: Was up there.
Speaker 1: Okay, how do you feel when you get off of
Speaker 1: the stage? Do you feel accomplished? Are you? Like? I
Speaker 1: was nervous for that, but I'm glad I did it
Speaker 1: sum up the mental state of you getting off of
Speaker 1: these Uh you know, after these these presentations.
Speaker 7: Oh, I guess I feel pretty good once I get
Speaker 7: done with them. I mean mostly like relief, but also
Speaker 7: like I don't know if I know I did a
Speaker 7: good job. At the same time, I'm pretty proud of
Speaker 7: myself for getting through it, like doing it with greed.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what makes you the most anxious
Speaker 1: is public speaking? In public speaking, it's kind of a
Speaker 1: what in your every day life because you're not really
Speaker 1: getting up in front of people and talking every single day.
Speaker 1: But what in your day to day life makes you
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 7: Anxious probably like like general social interactions, and it's like
Speaker 7: really weird, little specific things with like people I'm never
Speaker 7: gonna see again. I just I like load those little
Speaker 7: daily interactions where you have to like make weird, brief,
Speaker 7: awkward contact with somebody.
Speaker 1: Can we get an example of one of these?
Speaker 7: I don't know. I had like a weird exchange with
Speaker 7: somebody that was like a cashier at a grocery store
Speaker 7: a while back, where like she was closing her lane
Speaker 7: and I didn't notice, and she was like really agitated
Speaker 7: that I had come up like and she was just like, well,
Speaker 7: I'll just do it, And I just I felt like
Speaker 7: such an imposition, and I was like, I can take
Speaker 7: my stuff to another one, and she just like still
Speaker 7: did it, but she was like upset about it the
Speaker 7: whole time, and like that's we're right, I get it,
Speaker 7: Like you're about to get off your shift at the
Speaker 7: grocery store. I'm not trying to make you stay longer.
Speaker 7: And I just felt like super bad about it, and
Speaker 7: I just want the grocery store, Like ewh.
Speaker 1: You see, I know what you mean. I know what
Speaker 1: you mean. I've been thinking about those interactions a lot
Speaker 1: lately because they also kind of bother me as well.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to adopt the philosophy of like, look, I
Speaker 1: am just a person. I'm trying to move about the
Speaker 1: universe as kindly and as best as I can, and
Speaker 1: that's all I can do, and whatever anyone else wants
Speaker 1: to do to me around that, in any form of malice,
Speaker 1: is none of my business, as long as I am
Speaker 1: attending to my own personal duties of trying to navigate
Speaker 1: the world as best as I humanly can do. Anything
Speaker 1: that I said just make sense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like all I can
Speaker 7: do is just float around and like take in what
Speaker 7: I will and not what what other people are doing
Speaker 7: bother me. But I feel like it's also easier said than.
Speaker 1: Done, So Cam I I. You know, we're sort of
Speaker 1: ending the we're sort of coming to a close of
Speaker 1: this conversation and uh, you know, before before we move on,
Speaker 1: how do you feel now? Is your heart rate at rest?
Speaker 1: Story or are you still beating very heavily?
Speaker 7: I mean it's still done. I'm more more calm now.
Speaker 1: Okay. See, that's the thing is, you know, there's there's
Speaker 1: the initial hump of a high heart rate and a
Speaker 1: lot of nervousness, and then you just kind of relax,
Speaker 1: you get into it. You know. I'm sure you feel
Speaker 1: the same way when you're five minutes into your performance,
Speaker 1: you know, your presentation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean every every time I have had like
Speaker 7: advice given to me, like by a therapist or otherwise,
Speaker 7: it's always like, just do it until you get used
Speaker 7: to it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to do that, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it did, But just do it until you get
Speaker 1: used to it. It doesn't work, you you told me
Speaker 1: on the fifth presentation? Felt is the truth. And I
Speaker 1: and I feel the same thing because you know, these
Speaker 1: fucking live shows and all these other like times I've
Speaker 1: had to put myself out there, you know, repeated exposure
Speaker 1: to nervousness. I don't know. I don't know if it works,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna take your therapist and try.
Speaker 5: Cool.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go camp?
Speaker 7: Hello Internet people, and thank you for being my audience.
Speaker 7: I appreciate y'all, and I appreciate the get and everything
Speaker 7: you do for us.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Calling.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a good one.
Speaker 1: Let's unpack that call. This is this is my new
Speaker 1: segment that I do after the calls. It's called Let's
Speaker 1: Unpack that call. Fuck I I forgot what I was
Speaker 1: going to say. Oh yeah, okay, Cam. I liked Cam.
Speaker 1: I appreciate Kim. Here's what's cool about Cam and why
Speaker 1: she came off as instantly likable, is that she had
Speaker 1: a problem, which was that she was very nervous, but
Speaker 1: she was upfront about it, and you kind of respect
Speaker 1: her for going for it anyway. You know, she inherently
Speaker 1: put herself and what she knew was gonna be an
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation where her heart rate was going to go
Speaker 1: crazy and she was going to feel massively uncomfortable talking
Speaker 1: on this live stream in front of a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: She knew that that was going to happen, and she
Speaker 1: did it anyway, and that's inherently, you know, a respectable
Speaker 1: thing to do. So yeah, I thought that was very cool,
Speaker 1: and it was also I found it very interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys listening could tell she didn't sound nervous at all.
Speaker 1: I've had plenty of callers again, you guys can tell
Speaker 1: where you can kind of hear like stammers in their
Speaker 1: voice or or like like a like a like heavy
Speaker 1: breathing or or or they're stumbling over their words, and
Speaker 1: you can kind of tell when they're nervous. But you
Speaker 1: couldn't tell that she was nervous at all. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It makes when I hear people like her, I always
Speaker 1: think about, like, you know, what else are people hiding?
Speaker 1: Who else that seems like they are like put together
Speaker 1: or they're not under any pressure, like it's secretly inside
Speaker 1: is is you know, their hearts on fire or something
Speaker 1: like that. Anyway, shout out to Cam good luck with her.
Speaker 1: She's becoming a doctor, a dog scientist or something. When
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything funny to say. I say
Speaker 1: the word dog because it sounds like a funny word,
Speaker 1: but it's a cringey thing to do, and I need
Speaker 1: to think of I need to try and actually think
Speaker 1: of a funny thing to say. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: this segment has gone on for too long. Let's stop
Speaker 1: doing it, all right, So next up, we have a treat.
Speaker 1: We have a treat here. I'm not going to spoil
Speaker 1: the treat, but let's start off by bringing in the
Speaker 1: first of two calls. I'm gonna talk to two callers
Speaker 1: at once and it will be revealed soon. Why I
Speaker 1: have decided to talk to both of these callers simultaneously.
Speaker 1: But let's bring the first one on first. Let's bring
Speaker 1: Devon on first. Hello, Devon? Yes, how's it going? Devon?
Speaker 5: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: What's going on with you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, fam, I just well, I wanted to talk to you.
Speaker 5: I never thought i'd gone, but I wanted to talk
Speaker 5: to you about me losing my left nut.
Speaker 1: When did you lose your left nut?
Speaker 5: I want to say it was no last November.
Speaker 1: M Okay, so November of twenty twenty one, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so you currently only have one testicle?
Speaker 5: Yes, just the right one.
Speaker 1: Just the right one, and it says here you wanted
Speaker 1: to describe what living life with only one testicle.
Speaker 5: Is, like, yeah, it's it's uh, it's pretty normal. He definitely. Uh.
Speaker 5: The sack sits up a lot higher.
Speaker 1: The what is a lot higher the sack? The sack? Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: like the describe to me what you mean by that.
Speaker 1: I'm confused. Oh, the nuts, sack, the whole thing. What
Speaker 1: do you mean it's a lot higher.
Speaker 5: Well, it's just because he got instead of the weight
Speaker 5: of two nuts, you only got one.
Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, so it shrivels up and and it's it
Speaker 1: doesn't hang as much as when you have two.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. So so, Devin, how did you get You
Speaker 1: said you got into an accident. How did this happen?
Speaker 5: No, actually it was so. I was at the local
Speaker 5: fair and was the week before I found out, and
Speaker 5: I noticed my left one was really swollen and it hurt.
Speaker 5: For some reason, I didn't think anything of it. We
Speaker 5: goes by, it was swallowing, went down, it was fine.
Speaker 5: I get home from work and it was I was
Speaker 5: about to go to bed and it just felt like
Speaker 5: someone just punched me in the nuts as hard as
Speaker 5: I could, and that it's like the pain just never
Speaker 5: went away. It just stayed for about like an hour
Speaker 5: and then it kind of went away, and then shooting
Speaker 5: pain came back. Ended up going to the emergency room.
Speaker 5: And it actually found out that if you have testicular
Speaker 5: pain at all, you will actually get an emergency room
Speaker 5: right away.
Speaker 1: M Oh really, that's like that's a fast pass for
Speaker 1: the emergency room.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, like they don't. They don't. They don't screw
Speaker 5: out with that. They'll just send you right in, skip
Speaker 5: you ahead of the line. But uh yeah, no, I
Speaker 5: found that out and then uh I they did all
Speaker 5: the tests and everything, and basically that night they told me, oh,
Speaker 5: you have testicular cancer most likely mm hmm, which was
Speaker 5: which was kind of scary, and they booked me. They
Speaker 5: booked me for a yeurologist the next day in the morning.
Speaker 5: I they then they did a couple more tests the
Speaker 5: next morning, talked to him, and about a week later
Speaker 5: actually went in for surge to get it taken out,
Speaker 5: and then after that it was out whatever fine. As
Speaker 5: they said, basically they said the testing cancer is one
Speaker 5: of the most churable cancers, so they probably not to
Speaker 5: worry about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Devin, listen, Devin, actually, Devin can I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you on hold real quick. Yeah, yeah, no, pro Okay,
Speaker 1: I wanna put you on hold. I'm gonna bring right back. Okay. Hello, Hello, Hi,
Speaker 1: Hey is this Tommy?
Speaker 4: This is Tommy.
Speaker 1: How you doing, Tommy?
Speaker 4: I'm fantastic.
Speaker 1: Uh Tommy, Uh, it's great. It's great to hear from you.
Speaker 1: What is it that you would like to talk about today?
Speaker 4: Uh? So, I am twenty eight and I have one testicle. Mm,
Speaker 4: and that's you. My breaking the ice. With anyone I
Speaker 4: talk to, I usually tell them about my one nut,
Speaker 4: but so far no one really takes the bait.
Speaker 1: Really, what kinds of things do people tell you when
Speaker 1: when you tell them that you have one testicle?
Speaker 4: Why the fuck would I know that? Why would I
Speaker 4: want to know that?
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 4: Why are you in my house?
Speaker 1: M Do you do you know? Do you in? Do
Speaker 1: you know anybody else in your personal life that only
Speaker 1: has one testicle?
Speaker 4: I've actually never met someone of the same breed as me.
Speaker 1: No, really, you've never met another person with another with
Speaker 1: only one testicle.
Speaker 4: I've only held I've only heard.
Speaker 1: Stories, Tommy. What if I told you that I have
Speaker 1: a caller on the other line who also only has
Speaker 1: one testicle.
Speaker 4: My nipples are literally lactating with excitement right.
Speaker 1: Now, Tommy, I have a caller on the other line.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've ever spoken with someone else
Speaker 1: that has one testicle, but I'm gonna bring you both.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the chemistry is gonna be like. I'm nervous, I'm excited,
Speaker 1: but I want to bring him in. I wanted to
Speaker 1: introduce you guys to each other.
Speaker 4: This might be the first ever for twitch.
Speaker 1: Honestly, really is the first time you've have you ever
Speaker 1: like even spoken or like on a message board or
Speaker 1: anything with anyone who only has one testicle.
Speaker 4: I've honestly never thought about going to like a support
Speaker 4: board to my own kind. But no, I've only heard
Speaker 4: I'm gonna. I didn't even know. I thought I might be.
Speaker 4: I thought it might be the only one.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, hold on, I'm gonna all right,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna put you back in the queue.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell uh uh
Speaker 1: Devin what's going on? And then and then I'll put
Speaker 1: you guys both.
Speaker 4: His name's Devin. I'm already excited.
Speaker 1: Okay, give me one second, Tommy, Devin, Yes, Devin, I
Speaker 1: have I have a question for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know anyone in your personal life that only
Speaker 1: has one testicle?
Speaker 5: Uh? No, I've heard of people that I've never actually
Speaker 5: met anybody, so.
Speaker 1: You've never have you ever? You've never spoken with another
Speaker 1: person that only has one testicle? No, Devin, what if
Speaker 1: I told you I have a caller on the other
Speaker 1: line who also only has one testicle?
Speaker 5: No fucking way.
Speaker 1: Would you like to meet him?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm gonna bring right, I'm gonna bring both
Speaker 1: of you guys in. Tommy, yop, Tommy. This is Devin. Devin,
Speaker 1: this is Tommy. Both of you guys only have one testicle?
Speaker 5: Hi, Devin, what's up? Tommy?
Speaker 4: Are you brother? My brother?
Speaker 2: And kin?
Speaker 4: My one nut? Fam?
Speaker 5: Oh dude, it's living the life. Hey. Uh one quick
Speaker 5: question though, is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: We have left or the right one?
Speaker 4: I have the left one, dude, I have the right one. Well,
Speaker 4: so here's the thing, so technically I might actually be
Speaker 4: cheating in this. Technically I do have two. The other
Speaker 4: ones floating in like my stomach region. But for all
Speaker 4: intents and purposes, I got my left nut and then
Speaker 4: just a little empty pouch down there, just hanging out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, so same. Did did yours like end up
Speaker 5: like going inside you? Or you know?
Speaker 4: That's a good question because I actually don't really know.
Speaker 4: Somehow no one noticed this as a child. I didn't
Speaker 4: find out that it wasn't normal to have only one
Speaker 4: nut till I discovered porn at the right page of
Speaker 4: I Don't know can Yes, yeah, I was only twelve.
Speaker 5: But uh no, I so I actually have surgery and
Speaker 5: got mine removed.
Speaker 4: Wait, so did you actually have yours up in your
Speaker 4: body too?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: No, mine's completely out of my body.
Speaker 4: Oh shit. Okay, yeah, so see, like I've got one
Speaker 4: floating in kind of my abdomen area. So like if
Speaker 4: I which I should have surgically removed because I guess
Speaker 4: that's like dangerous or something, I don't know. But uh,
Speaker 4: if I like go up to a table that is
Speaker 4: waste level and I like reach to grab something, I'll
Speaker 4: nut myself. So like imagine someone kind of giving you
Speaker 4: a little nut tap but like yeap in your body.
Speaker 5: Dude. So I mean I told Lyle about this, But
Speaker 5: I'm saying if you you could probably go to the
Speaker 5: r if you have any pain or anything in it,
Speaker 5: they'll actually put you ahead of the line.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no.
Speaker 4: Pay, it's just hanging out there.
Speaker 5: Huh sez.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I didn't realize it was weird until
Speaker 4: I was watching porn, when I was like, you know,
Speaker 4: whatever age kids find out porn, I don't really remember.
Speaker 4: I helped a lot of free on when I was younger,
Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I started wondering why, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: why why their sack looked different. So I spent a
Speaker 4: lot of time as a kid just trying to push
Speaker 4: it back down into my body, which was very painful,
Speaker 4: and uh, spoiler alert, it didn't It didn't go down.
Speaker 4: It stayed right there.
Speaker 5: It's you like, talk to doctors about or anything, and
Speaker 5: what they said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been one of It was actually a
Speaker 4: big fear of mine letting people knew no that I
Speaker 4: only had one nut. So I went to go get
Speaker 4: a physical and the doctor gave me the all steal
Speaker 4: me up and ship they I had to give him
Speaker 4: the news, break him the news that they weren't going
Speaker 4: to find another little guy down hanging down there. And
Speaker 4: he looked at me and was like what And I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I've only got one nut. And he said, uh,
Speaker 4: are you gonna get the other one?
Speaker 6: Like removed?
Speaker 4: And I said nah, and he said, well you should,
Speaker 4: and so he gave me another little squeeze and then
Speaker 4: I left. Wor stentist visit ever.
Speaker 5: Huh do you do you have kids?
Speaker 4: No? No, oh my god, they would only have one
Speaker 4: nut too.
Speaker 5: Dude. That's honestly kind of a little worried about that,
Speaker 5: because the funny part is we were me and my
Speaker 5: fiance were trying when I had two, I lost one
Speaker 5: and now she's pregnant.
Speaker 4: Yeah see, yeah I didn't Uh yeah, yeah, no, it
Speaker 4: only takes one. Only one little swimmer the right to overdrive.
Speaker 4: Uh So you're you're one nut. You're a little solo.
Speaker 4: You're a little solo guy hanging out solo. As one
Speaker 4: would say, if it's small, because mine's tiny. It's like
Speaker 4: a little Uh, I would say golf ball, But that's
Speaker 4: pretty big for a testical size peanut, cashew, maybe an
Speaker 4: omen it's tiny.
Speaker 5: No, mine's not small. I'd say about like you take
Speaker 5: a golf ball split in the half.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just made me think about splitting a testicle
Speaker 4: in half. But yeah, no it's a little guy.
Speaker 5: Ain't nothing wrong with.
Speaker 4: That, Ain't no shame while you had something for us.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, is there. I'm trying, you know,
Speaker 1: because look, having one testicle, it sounds like it can
Speaker 1: be a lonely experience. And I'm wondering, while we have
Speaker 1: both of you guys on the line, you know what
Speaker 1: for each of you would you say is is is
Speaker 1: probably the worst part of only having one one testicle?
Speaker 1: Because I want to see if either of you have
Speaker 1: something like that in common that you might be able
Speaker 1: to bond over.
Speaker 4: I'll let you go, so, okay, all right, I'll take it. Uh.
Speaker 4: The worst part for me is well, I don't know
Speaker 4: if worse is the right word here because it's kind
Speaker 4: of subjective. But the most uncomfortable thing is I work
Speaker 4: in kitchens, so like everything is about waste level, so
Speaker 4: it is not an uncommon experience for me to reach
Speaker 4: for something, and like I said, I nut myself, which
Speaker 4: but here's the reason that that isn't necessarily the worst thing,
Speaker 4: because like say, someone goes to kick me in the
Speaker 4: nut through it gives me a little nut tap, they
Speaker 4: have a fifty percent cant of missing. And that sounds stupid,
Speaker 4: but it does happen people miss. So is getting nutted
Speaker 4: by a nut that is inside of my body is
Speaker 4: because that's pretty uncomfortable too, because it's like inside of
Speaker 4: your body doesn't feel right. But is that worse compared to, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, like a chance of someone hitting me if
Speaker 4: they give me a little nut tap. I don't know,
Speaker 4: but I would say that. I mean, aside from the
Speaker 4: health factors, it's kind of dangerous to only have one.
Speaker 4: But aside from that, yeah, that'd probably be the worst thing.
Speaker 4: I'm constantly hitting my abdomen and nutting myself.
Speaker 2: M I got a question, I have an answer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you ever like.
Speaker 5: Like when you wear a seatbelt in the car, do
Speaker 5: you ever like sinch a seatbelt that's too tight and
Speaker 5: hit it?
Speaker 4: No, it's not that far up. It's still down in
Speaker 4: my my nether region.
Speaker 5: So I would probably say my worst is I don't
Speaker 5: know why ever since I lost the last one, is
Speaker 5: when it gets any some sort of cold, that thing
Speaker 5: shrives up smaller than you've ever seen it.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's not smaller than my nut currently is.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like.
Speaker 1: This is the opposite of a dick measuring contest.
Speaker 4: How what's the size of your nut? So if I
Speaker 4: get like cold or something like that, you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know if everyone has this, but sometimes like one
Speaker 4: of your nuts will go up into your body. So
Speaker 4: if that happens to me, granted the minuscule size of
Speaker 4: my existing one testicle, it will do that. So there's
Speaker 4: it's it happens every once in a while where I'm
Speaker 4: just straight freeballing it empty sack. Now that's weird. I'm sure.
Speaker 5: I'm sure you gotta. It's probably good for swimming.
Speaker 4: Uh, maybe it makes me more like aerodynamic of Actually,
Speaker 4: I actually want to ask Gecko a question. Do you
Speaker 4: think if randomly, by chance, my other nut fell down
Speaker 4: into my sack? Do you think I would lose balance?
Speaker 1: Ooh, what do you think? Devin? Devin, Well, Devon is
Speaker 1: a fairly I think Devin Devn's a fairly new to
Speaker 1: the one nut life, right, I mean you Devin has
Speaker 1: had one nut for less than a year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh oh yeah. See No, I was born into
Speaker 4: this life. I didn't choose that. It chose me.
Speaker 1: Hm. Hm, so so, Tommy, you know you've you've been
Speaker 1: a one nutter for twenty seven years, Devon for less
Speaker 1: than one year. What advice do you have for Devon
Speaker 1: as he continues on his one nut journey? What can
Speaker 1: you tell him that you've learned? But really, only you,
Speaker 1: as the only other one nutted man that Devon has
Speaker 1: talked to before, can tell him.
Speaker 4: Make it your own. It's my breaking point. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I guess you have. You said you have
Speaker 4: a wife and kids, but usually it's my my go to,
Speaker 4: my icebreaker. Hi, my name's Tommy. I have one nut
Speaker 4: that's the best I got. Make it, make it you
Speaker 4: own it and conversation.
Speaker 5: If I mean new people, I tell that I want
Speaker 5: to be called writy so.
Speaker 4: Or the one nut Wonder. I'm a stand of that one.
Speaker 4: No one's called it. No one's called me it so far,
Speaker 4: but you know I'm working on it.
Speaker 5: I have a couple of friends that call me the
Speaker 5: one nut wonder.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Give them my phone numbers. Let's all hang
Speaker 4: out and have a little one nut party or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like there's a burgeoning, burgeoning friendship here.
Speaker 1: So I'm sort of like. You know, each of you
Speaker 1: can form your own chapter of the one nut legends,
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 4: Nut legend, the story of the Yeah, I got nothing.
Speaker 4: It's'll work. I'll figure something out.
Speaker 5: I guarantee it. Sleep we can find more people and
Speaker 5: actually create like a big club of one nut people.
Speaker 4: M hmm, a cult if you will, yes, doing like
Speaker 4: an like an AA format. My name is Tommy, I
Speaker 4: have one nut. I Tommy. Yeah. See we're.
Speaker 5: Hm.
Speaker 1: So Tommy, Devin, listen before we go, before we move on,
Speaker 1: first of all, it was it was a pleasure to
Speaker 1: bring you two together. I'm enjoying learning so much about
Speaker 1: the one nut life. You know, I'm enjoying. Uh. I
Speaker 1: feel like both of you, both of you guys. You see,
Speaker 1: you have the right now you have the left nut.
Speaker 1: So both of you together form a full sack of nuts.
Speaker 1: And I find that very beautiful. And you know, listen
Speaker 1: before we go, Do you guys have any other further
Speaker 1: questions or things that you would like to say to
Speaker 1: each other?
Speaker 5: I love you, yeah, I I I'm just speechless. Actually,
Speaker 5: got on, I love you.
Speaker 1: Get anything else you want to say to each other?
Speaker 4: Follow my YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, yeah, Vincent, it says here, you have a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel that's like about having one nut?
Speaker 4: Right. Oh no, no, it's not about having one nut.
Speaker 4: But maybe I should go in that direction. I'm having
Speaker 4: massive writer's block. Maybe I should use my own personal
Speaker 4: handy capable abilities content.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys should do a podcast together about having
Speaker 1: one nut.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I have a video where I dance about a
Speaker 4: pocket stake. But that's a conversation for another time.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, Hey, listen, Thank you guys very much for coming
Speaker 1: on the show, and good luck to both of you
Speaker 1: informing your new nut chapters.
Speaker 4: Awesome, thank you.
Speaker 1: Take care by this.
Speaker 4: Bye.
Speaker 1: But wow, let's unpack that. I liked those guys. They
Speaker 1: were very Yin and yang. Do we feel like they
Speaker 1: had chemistry? I think they did. I think they had chemistry.
Speaker 1: They were They were clearly very excited to talk to
Speaker 1: one another. It's always nice when you have something about
Speaker 1: yourself that makes you feel alone to find another person
Speaker 1: in whom you can share your experience. Tommy twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old, born into the one Nut life, a seasoned veteran.
Speaker 1: And then you have Devin, who is a recent member
Speaker 1: of the one nut cult but is making it work.
Speaker 1: He luckily had a kid. It sounds like he impregnated
Speaker 1: her before he lost the nut, which is quite miraculous luck.
Speaker 1: And it seems like both of those guys are doing
Speaker 1: very well. They're both very inspiring to me because I
Speaker 1: personally feel like I put too much importance on having
Speaker 1: both of my testicles, you know, to me, if I
Speaker 1: found out I lost one of my testicles, I would
Speaker 1: be devastated. I would be very very upset. But you
Speaker 1: look at these guys, especially Devon, who you know, look,
Speaker 1: lived twenty six goddamn years of his life with two
Speaker 1: testicles and then had to say goodbye to one of them.
Speaker 1: I find them very inspiring, the fact that they are
Speaker 1: able to live these beautiful lives despite having only one testicle,
Speaker 1: you know, having two testicles, it's not the end all
Speaker 1: be all, And that's what I've learned from this experience.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you meeting here's the thing is
Speaker 1: like if I had one ball and I met another
Speaker 1: guy with one ball, I feel like you could complete
Speaker 1: like platonically, Like no, there wouldn't be anything sexual about this,
Speaker 1: but would there not be some form? Would there not
Speaker 1: be like some enticement to want to take like your
Speaker 1: your right ball and his left ball and like kind
Speaker 1: of I guess, not like mush them together. But like you,
Speaker 1: I can't describe what I'm imagining in my head, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure you all are imagining it as well, a
Speaker 1: fusion of some kind, like a jigsaw puzzle. It would
Speaker 1: be a totally platonic thing. But like you would have, right,
Speaker 1: somebody in the chest that you would have, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: would have to. You would have to. And it worked
Speaker 1: out so because if they both had only their left nut,
Speaker 1: then they wouldn't need to pull out their nuts and
Speaker 1: mush them together. That would just be weird. But the
Speaker 1: fact that serendipitously one had a right nut one had
Speaker 1: a left nut, it just would make sense to smush
Speaker 1: them together. Hello.
Speaker 6: Hi, Oh my god, is this Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is this Mac?
Speaker 6: This is my Oh my god.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Mac?
Speaker 6: I'm good? How are you doing? Thanks for taking my call?
Speaker 6: Can I just say really appreciate you. I'm a huge
Speaker 6: fan and thank you so much. It's awesome to be
Speaker 6: talking to you.
Speaker 1: Oh of course, man, what's going on with you? Mac?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I recently got into pottery and joined a
Speaker 6: pottery studio near me. Since January been going. I've been
Speaker 6: loving it. And there's this older woman who's definitely over
Speaker 6: the age of sixty five there, and the last bunch
Speaker 6: of times that I've gone, like clockwork, if she's there,
Speaker 6: I'll be at the sink, you know, washing my equipment,
Speaker 6: my tools and stuff when I'm all done, and she'll
Speaker 6: inevitably walk by and like give my ass a little
Speaker 6: squeeze and then just continue moving. And it's happened every time.
Speaker 6: Every time she's there, it's happened. And it's weird because
Speaker 6: it's harmless, like obviously you shouldn't be touching anyone without
Speaker 6: their consent, but she's like this little old pottery lady
Speaker 6: and it doesn't really bother me, but it's it's still
Speaker 6: weird that it's it's like clockwork. If I see her,
Speaker 6: I'm like, well here it comes.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this sixty five year old little pottery lady
Speaker 1: is grabbing your ass every time that you go up
Speaker 1: to the sink.
Speaker 6: Yeah, every time I'm up there, she'll just kind of
Speaker 6: swoop in, like just kind of walk past me and
Speaker 6: grab my ass. And the last few times, it's just
Speaker 6: it's it's gotten to be so funny. The last few times,
Speaker 6: I've had to try and stop myself from laughing when
Speaker 6: it's happened. And again, like, I'm not even necessarily bothered
Speaker 6: about it, but i want to ask you, like, is
Speaker 6: it worth saying something to her? Like we've never even spoken?
Speaker 1: Wait, you've never even so you you, you have never
Speaker 1: exchanged any words with her. She just comes up.
Speaker 6: To you, not once, would not yet would not. That's
Speaker 6: the only interaction her and I have ever had. We
Speaker 6: have not spoken a single word to each other. It's
Speaker 6: just bizarre. And it's just like the little lady. So
Speaker 6: it's not even like an aggressive squeeze. It's just like
Speaker 6: this little, tiny, nothing squeeze. But I'm not really threatened
Speaker 6: by her, It's fine. I'm more worried about the optics.
Speaker 1: You said you worry about the optics. What exactly about
Speaker 1: the optics? Are you worried that people will think that
Speaker 1: you guys are together?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean I'm worried people will think I'm coming
Speaker 6: to the pottery studio to get with little old ladies
Speaker 6: or something.
Speaker 1: Hm hmm, Okay, So you does she like, has she
Speaker 1: ever made eye contact with you or or really had
Speaker 1: any kind of interaction with you aside from squeezing your.
Speaker 6: Ass when she's there, Like sometimes we'll kind of make
Speaker 6: that really brief eye contact where you make eye contact
Speaker 6: and then just kind of like turn your head to
Speaker 6: tend you're looking somewhere else. Like, so if we have
Speaker 6: made eye contact, it's been that sort of awkward. It
Speaker 6: doesn't last. It's not like we're staring into each other's
Speaker 6: eyes for a prolonged period of time.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you're telling me that you don't really
Speaker 1: give a shit. It doesn't.
Speaker 6: She's it's just like it's become this weird thing that
Speaker 6: happens that And you know, the whole reason I got
Speaker 6: into pottery was I wanted to go do something kind
Speaker 6: of like meditative and artistic and creative. And everyone who's there, like,
Speaker 6: no one's going there to meet. It's not a social place.
Speaker 6: Like everyone has just kind of like got their headphones
Speaker 6: in and is working and in their own little pottery world,
Speaker 6: you know. So it's not like anyone's going there to
Speaker 6: hook up, you know.
Speaker 2: But it's just I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't want to.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. We'll see again. It hasn't progressed.
Speaker 6: She hasn't said anything like, so I don't even know
Speaker 6: what it means. I don't I don't even know what
Speaker 6: her endgame.
Speaker 1: Is, to be honest, Well, here's the thing. Would you
Speaker 1: like her to stop?
Speaker 6: If she stopped, I wouldn't be disappointed. I wouldn't be like,
Speaker 6: oh what happened? Where did this fall off? But but
Speaker 6: if she again, my worry is that people someone has
Speaker 6: had to have seen it by this point, and my
Speaker 6: worry is that people are seeing it and thinking that
Speaker 6: there's something going on there.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there's no active good that you perceive in this,
Speaker 1: but but there is no potential. But there is the potential.
Speaker 1: But there's the potential for active bad.
Speaker 6: Yes, active bad, and not necessarily from her actions. But
Speaker 6: I don't want people think and I'm taking advantage of
Speaker 6: a little well the pottery lady.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what is stopping you mentally from telling her
Speaker 1: to stop?
Speaker 6: Because again, it's like a communal sort of environment. It's
Speaker 6: in a big open warehouse type of pottery studio. There's
Speaker 6: nowhere in there where you can really have a private conversation.
Speaker 6: Like it's dead quiet in there all the time. They
Speaker 6: play like some radio station with like very soft classical music.
Speaker 6: If anyone has a conversation in there, even if they're whispering,
Speaker 6: you hear every word, you know, so even if I
Speaker 6: like ask for politely, could you not do that? Like
Speaker 6: people will hear and it'll cause.
Speaker 1: A scene or so so you're so you won't even
Speaker 1: you won't even you want you won't even you know
Speaker 1: when she does it, turned her and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you not do that? Because you your desire to
Speaker 1: have that conversation is less than your desire to not
Speaker 1: make a.
Speaker 6: Scene pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well here's the thing. Uh yeah, this old lady,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck her fucking deal is,
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, she totally shouldn't Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: she totally shouldn't. Uh you know, be grabbing your ass. Uh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I mean this is this
Speaker 1: is a really like kind of a tough one because
Speaker 1: I understand all your uh all your concerns about it. Right,
Speaker 1: you don't wanna cause a scene, but like you don't
Speaker 1: sound like you give a shit enough to cause a
Speaker 1: scene even.
Speaker 6: Not not it's not worth it, it's really not not
Speaker 6: even like she's really forcefully or aggressively grabbing me, like
Speaker 6: her grip is it's a pretty sad little squeeze to
Speaker 6: be honest with you, like, and she's just like she's
Speaker 6: exactly like what you would picture a little hippie pottery
Speaker 6: lady to look like, like, you know.
Speaker 1: Hm hm, And I love the hobby.
Speaker 6: I've really enjoyed it. I don't want to just like
Speaker 6: stop going either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you talked to the the what would you
Speaker 1: say instructor about it?
Speaker 6: That's interesting. I hadn't thought of that, But that's almost
Speaker 6: even more embarrassing. It's sort of like.
Speaker 4: Go to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the people that kind of run facilitate the place
Speaker 6: and like rat out this old lady. And honestly, I've
Speaker 6: seen her work. She's really talented. She she makes really
Speaker 6: beautiful pottery.
Speaker 4: M m.
Speaker 6: I would hate That's the other thing too, Like I
Speaker 6: don't want to like throw her under the bus, Like.
Speaker 8: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tough one, man. I mean listen,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I you know, I wouldn't advise you to
Speaker 1: do anything that you're not comfortable with. It almost feels
Speaker 1: like when you look into your like when you really
Speaker 1: when you are really looking at the situation, it almost
Speaker 1: seems like it like her touching you makes you less
Speaker 1: uncomfortable than the idea of doing something about it.
Speaker 6: Does That's that's yeah, I can see that doing something
Speaker 6: about it seems like more of a hassle. But again,
Speaker 6: then I keep sort of uncut in this loop because
Speaker 6: then I just keep coming back to like, well, if
Speaker 6: it keeps happening, people are gonna notice.
Speaker 9: Hmmm, tell tell you should tell you should tell her
Speaker 9: to stop grabbing your ass. Probably, yeah, you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 9: I don't know why we're batting this around.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we've been batting that. We've been
Speaker 1: batting this around for too long. You should tell her
Speaker 1: to stop grabbing your ass. That's that's how That's how
Speaker 1: I'll conclude this. Uh, find a way to do a whisp,
Speaker 1: do a whisper, maybe, like hey, you know, bring her
Speaker 1: to a quiet corner of the warehouse, be like hey, ma'am,
Speaker 1: can I talk to you for a sec. You're be like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not here to make a big deal about this,
Speaker 1: but could you just stop doing that? Tell tell her
Speaker 1: to stop, Tell her to stop mac Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: there's no way. I know you're saying like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a small room. It'll make a scene. There's a way
Speaker 1: to do it without making a scene. Tell her to stop.
Speaker 1: You don't have to make.
Speaker 6: A little like I said, like kind of pulling her aside.
Speaker 6: And it's almost I want to be tactful. It's almost
Speaker 6: more embarrassing in a weird way. But I get I get.
Speaker 1: It, I get it. It's by the way, Look, dude,
Speaker 1: it's annoying that you have to do this at all.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to do this. She shouldn't be fucking
Speaker 1: with you in the first place. But go ahead, tell
Speaker 1: her to stop.
Speaker 6: Okay, I will, I will.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Wait?
Speaker 6: Is it weird if I like waited outside kind of like.
Speaker 1: The how? The how is less important to me than
Speaker 1: the than the the whether or not to do it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think we've decided we're going to do it.
Speaker 1: We're going to tell her. Uh And if there is
Speaker 1: a will, there is a way.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well I forgot you back, and yeah, I mean
Speaker 6: I'll tell her. I'll tell her to just you know, again,
Speaker 6: I don't want to make her feel bad. I'll be
Speaker 6: as polite as possible as you can be in that situation,
Speaker 6: but I'll just say, you know, stop grabbing my butt.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah, Like I said, I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a I don't think there's a wrong way to
Speaker 1: do it, as long as you do it.
Speaker 6: Okay, good do I think.
Speaker 1: You want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go.
Speaker 6: Mack, No, just I want to say thank you to
Speaker 6: you for having me on. It's honestly like a pleasure,
Speaker 6: in an honor to talk to you, and I really
Speaker 6: appreciate you. You're you do great work and it's always
Speaker 6: fun to listen to you and wild to be talking
Speaker 6: to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Brother Macket's wild to be talking
Speaker 1: to you too. Man, Take care and good luck with you.
Speaker 6: Thanks, have a good night.
Speaker 1: All right, let's unpack that call. Oh man, Mac Mac Mac.
Speaker 1: First of all, Mac, what a good guy. I liked
Speaker 1: him a lot. Uh. We patted that around back and forth.
Speaker 1: I did. He mentioned that it's funny because he mentioned
Speaker 1: that he was in a loop about it, the loop
Speaker 1: of like, well, I don't really want to make it
Speaker 1: a big deal because I don't really care that much,
Speaker 1: but I should, you know, get ahead of the issue
Speaker 1: in case if anything, one thinks that like I'm involved
Speaker 1: with this person and the optics are weird and but
Speaker 1: I don't want to do and he was just in
Speaker 1: a loop, and I got the reason that call was
Speaker 1: so long is I got caught in that loop with him.
Speaker 1: He brought me along with the loop, and I think
Speaker 1: eventually I noticed we were in this loop and I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, we let's break the loop. Let's
Speaker 1: tell this lady and stop uh grabbing your ass. I
Speaker 1: hope he does it. I hope he makes that decisive
Speaker 1: decision to exit his loop. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuck is up with this lady. She didn't say anything
Speaker 1: to him, no eye contact because she's just grabbing his ass.
Speaker 1: What the fuck's going on? Max? Seems like he's chill
Speaker 1: about it. Uh, dude, I don't know. That was a
Speaker 1: tough one. I'm trying to see if I have any
Speaker 1: further thoughts. That was what Mac needed, was to break
Speaker 1: out of his loop with a decision on what to do.
Speaker 1: And I hope he makes that decision, and I hope
Speaker 1: I hope he does not return to the loop again.
Speaker 8: There repeat goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 8: every night, the rep can goes doing his ride. He's
Speaker 8: teaching you cloud in the middle of your life. But
Speaker 8: he's not really an expert.