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Speaker 2: say good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodungs

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Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Sunday, November twenty second.

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Speaker 2: No rest for the wicked.

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Speaker 3: I'm j E.

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Speaker 2: Skeets giggling away at that cold open from JD. There

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Speaker 2: alongside me as always. We've got tasmellos.

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Speaker 3: Just love those.

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Speaker 2: We got the bass Master ripping them lips, Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: we've got the international Man of Mystery taking it to

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Speaker 4: Lee Ellis friends.

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Speaker 2: Man, the man making the match cap in JD. Hello,

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Speaker 2: various and here we are. Did you edit that down, JD?

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Speaker 3: Because that is an.

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Speaker 5: Incredible text, the all the hair drying, put it all together,

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Speaker 4: It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: The whole clip is amazing.

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Speaker 4: The most shown from sixty minutes down to four minutes.

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Speaker 2: And the most shocking part only thirty five dollars.

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Speaker 1: What a deal I've got a bit of a scoop

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Speaker 1: here because this morning someone tweeted me and said, as

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Speaker 3: People are still.

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Speaker 1: Getting their haircut and beards trimmed solely because of his impact.

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Speaker 1: And I said to him, does everyone get an hour?

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Speaker 1: And he said, sadly, no, that's reserved to center himself.

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Speaker 3: So there we go.

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Speaker 1: We're blown the lid off the whole scheme this morning.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone gets an hour?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we are back here on a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I highly encourage you to check out yesterday's No Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast that we posted on Saturday. That was recapping Day

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Speaker 2: Hornets out of nowhere for four years, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: task this is wild Hayward four years, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: Thirty million a year for four years is just a

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Speaker 6: I just don't think it's I don't think it's worth it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And there is the rumor that Terry Rosier goes

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Speaker 4: it and probably buy him out, and he goes to

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Speaker 2: That would be better. But yeah, that's just a report

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Speaker 2: I get that, which isn't all that great, but I

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell the Hornets are doing.

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Speaker 2: Why is Michael Jordan infatuated with Gordon Hayward. Maybe he

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Speaker 6: Jordan's trying to sign him every chance he gets.

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Speaker 1: It's just Gordon Hayward's one of those players. He was

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Speaker 4: I definitely do. Last year in the playoffs, Daniel Tye

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Speaker 6: Well got thirty million. Daddy's always happy. Yeah, Tristan Thompson,

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Speaker 7: Mine was Tristan Thompson.

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Speaker 6: So I'm happy to see him playing in a spot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think? Clearly?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's We sort of just haven't seen him because

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Speaker 1: He's missed a lot of time. He only played fifty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the rebounding should help. I think there's some weird

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Speaker 7: This is the Al Jefferson show.

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Speaker 2: Big Kevin Garnett show.

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Speaker 2: when Lowry was on the bench, Vamvleet averaged twenty two

432
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Speaker 2: and eight per thirty six minutes. So damn good numbers,

433
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Speaker 2: and the salaries comparable to Malcolm Brogden and a Rosier

434
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Speaker 2: even and sort of a dragic and your rubios and blood.

435
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Speaker 2: So it's in the ballpark there, So it feels right

436
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Speaker 2: to me. I'm interested to hear what you think tasks

437
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 2: with this Van Vleet four for eighty five.

438
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Speaker 4: I think it's fantastic. I think it's a perfect number, right,

439
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 4: in his prime here. I don't think he's going to

440
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Speaker 4: fade away by any means. I think he can be,

441
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 4: you know, one of your lead guards. And at that cost.

442
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Speaker 4: You mentioned the guys that he's getting paid, like, I

443
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 4: think it's a perfect dollar figure. I think it's totally fine.

444
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 4: I think Kawhi Leonard in the fact that he dragged

445
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Speaker 4: the Toronto Raptors to a championship while Fred van Vliet

446
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 4: was st rag outing and then got better deserves at

447
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: least like three percent of this contract. But Fred van

448
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 4: Vliet can keep the other ninety seven percent. I think

449
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 4: it's totally entirely fair. And when is he can start

450
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 4: putting up some fleets on Twitter, some van fleets take

451
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Speaker 4: it off? When's he gonna go back to Fleet Street

452
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 4: where Trey Kirby used to live in Toronto?

453
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Speaker 7: Right?

454
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Speaker 4: I love I love Fred van Vliet, and he I

455
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Speaker 4: think he earns it. He's not getting paid. It's not

456
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Speaker 4: getting paid Gordon Hayward money here. You know, Yes, it's

457
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Speaker 4: a decent contract.

458
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Speaker 2: We thought he might get a lot more. I mean,

459
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Speaker 2: in this free agency class lead were we were thinking

460
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Speaker 2: it could be a lot higher than really, you know,

461
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one or whatever. I know it bounces around

462
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Speaker 2: a little bit there, but per year, that's seems reasonable.

463
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Speaker 2: Raptors are moving forward here with Van Vliet, Siakam and

464
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Speaker 2: likely then og Anenobi, who they still have to you know,

465
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Speaker 2: sign they're going to depend on when they do that

466
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: as their foundation, a solid foundation. You know, are there

467
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Speaker 2: are there elite players within those three, I'm not. I'm

468
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Speaker 2: not sure. I mean, all started all NBA from Siakam already,

469
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Speaker 2: I get that, but it's it's a good core. It's

470
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Speaker 2: a really good core to then build your team around,

471
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Speaker 2: especially if you can make a splash in free agency

472
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Speaker 2: next year.

473
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Speaker 1: But what do you think I think to have full

474
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Speaker 1: forty five is very good price for the rep is

475
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Speaker 1: because I'm surprised that someone like the Knicks didn't come

476
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Speaker 1: in with one hundred million dollars off of him, and

477
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Speaker 1: really sort of yes the Raptors out to see if

478
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Speaker 1: they would go that far, because I think he could

479
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Speaker 1: have gotten that sort of money. He was very very

480
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Speaker 1: good for the Raptors in the finals. Remember as well,

481
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Speaker 1: he was outstanding defensively on Steph Curry and then I

482
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Speaker 1: mean so good that hub Brown even thought he was

483
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Finals MVP so this guy has performed big time for

484
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Speaker 1: the Raptors in the playoffs, and I think this is

485
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Speaker 1: a very very good contract and it will just keep

486
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Speaker 1: the Raptors like they didn't overspend, They spent a very

487
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Speaker 1: good price, so that gives themselves a little bit of

488
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Speaker 1: flexibility going forward. But a guy who knows the system,

489
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Speaker 1: they trust, they like each other. I think Messiah Jerry

490
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Speaker 1: did very well and I think I honestly think going

491
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Speaker 1: into that he probably thought there was going to cost

492
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Speaker 1: them a little bit more, just because there is a

493
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Speaker 1: competition and demand for a guy of his services, and

494
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Speaker 1: some of those teams that are desperate for a player

495
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Speaker 1: would have spent a little bit more because we see

496
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Speaker 1: like the Hornets, teams will overspend to get their player.

497
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Speaker 1: But the Raptors didn't have to do that. So I

498
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Speaker 1: think everyone will be very very happy. But a little

499
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Speaker 1: bit interesting though that Fred said he was going right

500
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Speaker 1: said Fred said he was going to meet with all

501
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Speaker 1: these teams in Chicago yesterday. But this deal came about

502
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Speaker 1: pretty quickly, so I wonder how things went there, like

503
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't get Maybe teams just thought he's going

504
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: back to Toronto, so they didn't pursue him as much

505
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Speaker 1: as they as they needed to.

506
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Speaker 3: But yeah, very very.

507
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Speaker 1: Happy for the Raptors to get in because it looks

508
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Speaker 1: like they are going to lose. Well, well, Surge is

509
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: gone and now Mark looks like he might Well. I

510
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 1: think they're going to try to get Marcus Ol back,

511
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Speaker 1: but it looks like they might be without a big man,

512
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Speaker 1: so Masa's going to have to find some fill out there.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bacca signing with the Clippers two years and eighteen

514
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: million dollars second year team option. We can get to

515
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Speaker 2: that in a second. But what do you think about

516
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Speaker 2: Van Vleet in that deal?

517
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Speaker 6: Tray, I think it's nice, right, said Fred said, I'm

518
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 6: too sexy for your other teams, which is why he

519
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 6: came back to the Raptors. They probably paid him a

520
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 6: little more than he's worth, but I think it's going

521
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Speaker 6: to be worth it because a, you got the championship

522
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Speaker 6: out of it, So I never mind giving somebody a

523
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Speaker 6: little taste for some past performance.

524
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Speaker 7: I think that's fair.

525
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Speaker 6: And like you're saying, Skeets, they're setting themselves up to

526
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Speaker 6: at least have a core that has a championship, that

527
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Speaker 6: has been playing together, that has that continuity.

528
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can say, hey, we.

529
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Speaker 6: Just need the star here, because they do need the star. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 6: with Siakam Fred van vlee og that's a core like

531
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Speaker 6: you're saying, but they still need that major guy to

532
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Speaker 6: take him over the top, just like they did with

533
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Speaker 6: Kawhi back in the day. But for a Brogden deal,

534
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Speaker 6: it looked like Malcolm Brogden was worth it pretty much

535
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 6: right away. You're paying Fred van vlee about the same

536
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Speaker 6: as Davis Berton, so I'm happy with that as well.

537
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Speaker 6: Good deal for the Raptors, great deal for Freddy.

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you think it's fascinating like he slipped

539
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: it in there at tasks. It's like it seems like

540
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Speaker 2: an even a decent deal if this is a huge

541
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Speaker 2: if if van Vleet didn't even get better, if he

542
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Speaker 2: stayed exactly sort of plateau what we see from him

543
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 2: right now, which is a great, great player, obviously unbelievable

544
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: defensive player for especially his size, hit big shots. He's

545
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: just he can get better at finishing inside, that's for sure.

546
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: He struggles inside, but obviously you can hit the three.

547
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: Takes a lot of them. He's not afraid of the

548
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: big moment. All those supportives. But if he doesn't get better,

549
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: it's still not a bad deal. The whole PI is

550
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: he's going to get better because he's only twenty six,

551
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: so he could even hit free agency, you know, with

552
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Speaker 2: that fourth year or ten Austion free agency and like

553
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: really in his prime at twenty nine, he could have

554
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Speaker 2: another paid, big, big pay day ahead of him. But

555
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Speaker 2: even if he doesn't, I think it's still a pretty

556
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Speaker 2: damn good deal.

557
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Speaker 4: I think so too. I think this is uh, it's

558
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Speaker 4: just it would be serious gravy if he gets better.

559
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Speaker 4: I think we can. If Raptors fans are looking at

560
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Speaker 4: Fred's performance the last couple of years and they get

561
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: that the next few years, I think they should be

562
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: totally content. They're still waiting for Pascal Siakam to take

563
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Speaker 4: that next step, and they feel like going into the

564
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Speaker 4: bubble with some unique there's some unique circumstances. It was

565
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: his first run as a lead guy out of their core.

566
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Speaker 4: They expect Pascal over Fred van Vliet. I think over

567
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Speaker 4: o g to be the guy, and uh, you know, ideally,

568
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Speaker 4: sure they pull a Disciples of Sam Presty and sees

569
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Speaker 4: a James Harden available. Hey, James Harden is available to

570
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: come on over to get a superstar with those guys.

571
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Speaker 4: But yeah, they're they're good, and the front court's just empty.

572
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Speaker 4: It's that's the scary part of this Surge going to

573
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Speaker 4: a Los Angeles to be a perfect backup big there

574
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Speaker 4: and Marcus Sole likely leaving. I guess, yeah, it's a

575
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: different team with no bigs. If Chris Bouchet is man

576
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Speaker 4: in the front court.

577
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Speaker 2: There, Yeah, this is top. Yeah, what'd you think, Liam Abaca?

578
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Speaker 2: I don't know when you saide, if you stayed up

579
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Speaker 2: Leete last night or you walk up to it this morning.

580
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: But Abaca, like I said, two years in eighteen million,

581
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Speaker 2: he's one of those guys getting that deal going to

582
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Speaker 2: the Clippers. It's a big loss for the Raptors. As

583
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Speaker 2: great as Van Vliet's been for them, Baca's been huge

584
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: in playoff, in playoff games and series for him.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had an interesting career there in Toronto because

586
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Speaker 1: there was times where it was like Surge looked old

587
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Speaker 1: and slow, and other times he was really really good

588
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Speaker 1: for him and they're going to miss him now because

589
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: his three point shooting improved, he was able to spread

590
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Speaker 1: the floor. He's good defensively and it just leaves to

591
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: such a big hole for them now that may not

592
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Speaker 1: be filled by Marcus Ol either. So they are definitely

593
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Speaker 1: going to miss in two years nineteen million, not a

594
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: huge contract either, So I'm not sure exactly where the

595
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: Raptor's cap situation is right now, but I kind of

596
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: would have thought they would have tried to hang on

597
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: to him knowing that that Marcasoli is likely going.

598
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Speaker 3: But yeah, big blow.

599
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: He's He was a very very instrumental player for them,

600
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Speaker 1: and you know, he grew into his role I think

601
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Speaker 1: in Toronto. Like I say, a little bit up and

602
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: down at the stop, but at the end of his

603
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: career in Toronto, very very important play for that team.

604
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Speaker 1: And I are going to miss him badly.

605
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Nurse will just lean into playing Siakam at the five,

606
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 2: just get funky with it. Forget about the big guys.

607
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: They wouldn't put it past Nurse. But yeah, there's no

608
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: guys inside. We're waiting on Marcasol see what he does.

609
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Speaker 2: But what do you think, Trey, I love it.

610
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Speaker 6: I think the Clippers have now had a good free

611
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 6: agency just by bringing in Sergebaka, they basically to me

612
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 6: are upgrading from Montrez Harrell. You know, Harold certainly was

613
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 6: the sixth Man of the Year. Great chemistry alongside Lou Williams,

614
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 6: pick and roll partner. But the step back you're going

615
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 6: to take offensively with Sergebaka, you're going to be able

616
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 6: to take a step forward defensively. I think he's going

617
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 6: to be closing games for the Clippers. Does he totally

618
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 6: give you a Lebron or Anthony Davis stopper? Certainly not.

619
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Speaker 6: But he's got some championship experience. He's been playing in

620
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 6: big games for basically a decade. Give me Serge Abacca.

621
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 6: That's a great signing for the Clippers.

622
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Speaker 4: And he's he is thirty, although he seems like he's

623
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: thirty five forever. Yeah, he has been around forever because

624
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 4: he's we knew, but he's thirty one. He's thirty one.

625
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: My mistake that he was you know with those Okay,

626
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: see guys, he is going to give that Clippers locker

627
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: room back with Kawhi Leonard again a little bit of

628
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 4: a jolt. You know, he is a positive guy. He's

629
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: a good raw rod type guy. And and yeah, you

630
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: you hope he comes off the bench behind zoobots and

631
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: doesn't play a ten of minutes, so he's fresh for

632
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 4: the playoffs. When he's got that that fingered away, keep

633
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: that finger fresh. When he's blocking shots down there, he's

634
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: going to be doing that for the Clippers. I agree

635
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: it is an upgrade. They got better.

636
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: And what do you think of the Raptors' chances of

637
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 2: keeping Marcus Saltas because there's Lakers rumors being thrown around

638
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: a few other teams in the mix. But you know,

639
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: losing out on Abaca, there is money for the Raps

640
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: to still try and convince him to stick around for

641
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: at least one more year. And then of course he

642
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: maybe just says, screw it, I want to go back

643
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: to Spain.

644
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: So I think he's going back to Spain. Still, Garden

645
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: is in Spain. He's part of the Garden gang. I'm

646
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: just guessing. But he's got his own team that he

647
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 4: owns there. Why don't you go play there? Man is Garden.

648
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: He loves, he loves eating what he grows. I just

649
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: don't see him going to Tampa. I don't see him.

650
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: I just I mean, it is a weird move for Sergia.

651
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 4: It feels like as well, winning a championship then going

652
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: and join the Clippers. I just I don't see Mark

653
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: doing the same thing. He's obviously five at least four

654
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: years older, so I think he's gone.

655
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 7: But I don't know.

656
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's just me being stubborn. The first

657
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: rumor I heard was that he's going to Spain. So

658
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm sticking with it. This La thing. I mean, they

659
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: need a backup big, that's totally true. They need another guy.

660
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: With Dwight Howard gone. They have Mantres Harrel now, which

661
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: is still weird. Still can't believe he jumped the hallway

662
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 4: to go to the Lakers. But I don't know. I

663
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: think that's I think now this year is going to

664
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: be the year we say the Lakers front court, you know,

665
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: besides Anthony Davis. Oh yeah, he's pretty good. Is a

666
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: little thin like that we said about the Clippers last year,

667
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: because you know, Dwight helped out and now it's it's Montrez.

668
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: So I don't know. You guys think Marcus sol in La.

669
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know, it's not it's not hitting

670
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: me right now.

671
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: It might be the Warriors, according to Waia's true too.

672
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: It could be California. You can grow a lot of

673
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: produce in California. And as people say, so the Lakers guards,

674
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: let's talk about them. You know, they're waiting to find

675
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: out whether they get Marcus sol But they made some

676
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: moves yesterday. They resigned Centavious Caldwell Pope three years forty

677
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: million dollars, but they lost two other guards. So Rondo

678
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: signed with the Hawks Kaka two years fifteen million dollars,

679
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: and Avery Bradley signed with the Heat for two years

680
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: eleven point six million dollars second year team option on that.

681
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: So they lose a couple of guys, but they keep

682
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: casep Rich Paul gets paid, gets his guys paid. But

683
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: my question, Lee, why do you guys started Did the

684
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Lakers overpay here for cold w What do you think

685
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: this year?

686
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: No, I don't think they did in years gone by,

687
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: I think they have overpaid for him, But I think

688
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: he actually had his best season with the Lakers that

689
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: he's coming off right now, even though his numbers were

690
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: a little bit lower than he had put up before.

691
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: I just thought in the playoffs he was much better

692
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: hitting those threes, playing that defense, and he got a

693
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: Dwayne Deadmond contract out of it.

694
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: So I think that's I.

695
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 7: Mean, when you get the Deadman.

696
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're getting paid Dwayne Deadman money, you're

697
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: you're almost being underpaid really if.

698
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: You're a KCP.

699
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: So you know, when he was getting eighty million for

700
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: one season, when it was getting twelve million on top

701
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: of that, and he was brutal, I thought he actually

702
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: this year grew into that role a lot better and

703
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: was an important part of what the Lakers doing. He

704
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: actually hit some of those shots in the playoffs, those

705
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: big shots that they'd given him in the past, but

706
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: he hadn't been able to make them, and this year

707
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: he was. So I think it's again with what guy's

708
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: getting paid. Thirteen million a year for KCP on that

709
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: don a championship team, I think is pretty good. He

710
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: plays that role well and understands exactly what's expected of him.

711
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: You know.

712
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Defensively, they know they've got to go I can go

713
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: out there and god the other team's you know, shooting,

714
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: go out to point god by that guy and then

715
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: he just sits in the corner to the Bruce Bowen roll,

716
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, hit those threes. And that's what KCP does.

717
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: So I think this is a decent contract.

718
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Fair Some people think maybe they did just because they

719
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: may have handcuffed themselves because they have four roster spots

720
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: still open to fill, and really they have I think

721
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: just the vet minimum that to play around with. But

722
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: you're a championship team and people ring chase and I'm

723
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: sure you can get guys come play with Lebron. But

724
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: what do you think, trail go to your next three years?

725
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Forty for KCP seem fair? Yeah, I think it seems fair.

726
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 6: He's getting a little bit of a title bump, he's

727
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 6: getting a little bit of a clutch bump, and like

728
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 6: you're saying, skeets, with the way the exceptions worked out,

729
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: he's getting paid a little bit more than he probably

730
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: would have been had the Lakers not gone after montrez Harrell.

731
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 6: But still it's basically thirteen mil for a quality wing

732
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 6: who proved it during the finals. I think that that

733
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 6: alone makes it a worthwhile deal for CACP. Not to

734
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 6: mention you're keeping the clutch group happy. I think it

735
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 6: all considered, it's fine. If you would have asked me

736
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: after we had KCP with what we called the worst

737
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: wedgie of all time during the regular season, I would say, no,

738
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 6: this is certainly an overpay. Once again, but he showed

739
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 6: up in the finals, made important shots, played some great defense,

740
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 6: and got a title out of it. So yeah, thirteen

741
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: million for a starter. That's easy, Tess. What do you

742
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 6: think of the Lakers moves here?

743
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: I love the KCP moved he deserved. He was their

744
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: third best player in the playoffs. He hit the most

745
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: threes on their team throughout the playoffs, which is bonkers.

746
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: He got helped that Avery Bradley going into the bubble

747
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: said no, I'm not gonna attend, and so CACP was

748
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: a spot starter during the regular season then became their guy. Yes,

749
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: So it also helped that Danny Green was gone, as

750
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: he said, Danny Green traded away. They needed him, but

751
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 4: CASEP earned it and that numbers is totally fine. I

752
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: mentioned Avery Bradley that one's unique. He wins the championship

753
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: with the Lakers, although he wasn't in the bubble, and

754
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: he goes to the team that they beat, to the

755
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: Miami Heat. It's like the anti Kevin Durant. It's like

756
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: the opposite going to that team. So that's an interesting one.

757
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 4: It feels like Avid Bradley's going to fit in pretty

758
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: well there in Miami with the culture that we always

759
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: talk about. But here, I mean you needed to sign Kcpu.

760
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: Him and Wesley Matthews will sort of be the same guy.

761
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: But I think he deserved every single penny that Clutch

762
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: earned for him these last few years.

763
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: Let's get to the Bucks here. They had an updated

764
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: deal yesterday. Pat Conaton actually re signed with them for

765
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: three years sixteen million dollars. It was reported I think

766
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: like two and eight or something like that prior, but

767
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: he got more money, three year, sixteen million dollars. They

768
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: also signed DJ Augustine for three years twenty one million dollars.

769
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Not a bad little payday for him coming out of

770
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: the Magic. Bobby portis og Bobby Ploris in his crazy

771
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: I signs with the Bucks two years, second year player

772
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: option for him, and they also agreed to a reported

773
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: two way deal with Jalen Adams, who finished second in

774
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: G League MVP voting last year for their G League team.

775
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: So Bucks making smooths here after the whole Bogdanovich dilemma

776
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: and screw up and all that, How would you grade

777
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: the Bucks offseason so far when we include, of course

778
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday and that big trade Trey.

779
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 6: What do you think I'm giving him a triple B

780
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 6: skeets because the Bucks be botching. They blew it with

781
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 6: bog Dan Bogdanovich. They tried to save it when they

782
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 6: brought in Bobby Bortis and bj Bougustine. Honestly, it's a

783
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 6: little embarrassing for the Bucks the way that this offseason

784
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 6: has gone so far. We don't exactly know what went

785
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 6: down with the Bogdanovich situation. We don't know if it

786
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 6: was the Kings who never approached him, if it was

787
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 6: the Bucks who never approached him, but they got a

788
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 6: lot of praise for bringing him him, bringing in him

789
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 6: and Drew Holiday, only to find out you're not gonna

790
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,959
Speaker 6: be getting bogued down as well. You're ridiculed league wide,

791
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: and it looks bad. Now they've low key botched this

792
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 6: Pat content thing. But they're not gonna get blasted because

793
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 6: ultimately they kept the guy. But basically what they did

794
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: they offered Pat Connaton a contract that doesn't exist in

795
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 6: the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. There was a great breakdown

796
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: of it by John Hollinger. You can subscribe to The

797
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 6: Athletic at the Athletic dot com slash No Dunks all

798
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 6: you really need to know, though, is that the headline

799
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 6: for it was Bucks score another salary cap own goal.

800
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 6: That's not what you want to see when they're recapping

801
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 6: your free agency moves. You know, bringing in Bogdanovic would

802
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 6: have been huge. Now they're running it back with Pat

803
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 6: Conaton and a guy who couldn't stick with a terrible

804
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 6: Bulls team.

805
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 7: That being said, they did get Drew Holliday. That's big.

806
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: They could set their sites a little higher. I think

807
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 6: on the star meter. If you were willing to Pat

808
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 6: to part with a Chris Middleton, maybe you get something

809
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 6: more than a fringe all start to put next to Giannis.

810
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 6: But they still did get Drew Holliday. If it was

811
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 6: Drew and bogdan Bogue Den, I'm talking to B plus.

812
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 6: But now that they've botched it with him and they

813
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 6: brought in a couple of guys who I don't really

814
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 6: think moved the needle much, I'm going more with a

815
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 6: B minus.

816
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: Okay, a B minus. So what do you? What do

817
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: you think?

818
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: Lee?

819
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: You're not in your head? You agree?

820
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: I think right now B minus is fine If Yanna

821
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: signs his extension, of course, it goes up to A

822
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, then it drops to a sea.

823
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: I think that's.

824
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Ultimately what it comes down to here with Milwaukee is

825
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: all these other little moves and missing out on bog

826
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: done is a big blow to them. All these other

827
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: little ones don't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

828
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: If Yannis chooses to sign, it's like, okay, fine, we

829
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: lock him in, so then they can move forward.

830
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: But if he decides, you know.

831
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: What, things didn't quite work out this way, I'm just

832
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna hold off until the end of next season or

833
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: start of for next season, then that's when the Bucks

834
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: really have to panic because if they blow it and

835
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: Yannis walks and they're in real trouble there. So I think,

836
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to say face a little bit

837
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: here and keeping pat connoton who you know, he's a

838
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: decent role player on that team. He fits what they

839
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: kind of need from him. But ultimately it comes down

840
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: to landing the big fish, and we should find out

841
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess they can offer that to him

842
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: any time now, I believe, And that's really what it's

843
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: going to come down to. Does Yannis grab that contract

844
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: that five years and around two hundred and twenty million

845
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: and say, yep, I'm here, or does he say need

846
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: another year to sort of see if this thing works out,

847
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: because that contract will be there anytime he wants it

848
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: next season. But maybe he just is like lose lost

849
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of faith in the front office because

850
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: they didn't quite get things right, even though Jannis was

851
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: apparently helping them to recruit bug Down and he thought

852
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: he thought he was coming. So not sure exactly what's

853
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen there, but I think my prediction is that

854
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Yannis does not sign it.

855
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: That's what I think. I think he holds off.

856
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: I should have added to the mixer too. Robin Lopez

857
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: is leaving the bus. He's signed a deal with the Wizards.

858
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 7: Task.

859
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: How would you grade the box offseason after this Bugdanovich thing.

860
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: I think it's even They got rid of one crazy

861
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: Eyes and Robin Lopez and they bring in Bobby Portis.

862
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 7: It's perfect.

863
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: Perfect the off season. I think they are better with

864
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: Drew Holliday being able to close games, you know, rather

865
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: than Eric Bledsoe. They really didn't have anybody outside their

866
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 4: big three that they knew that was closing games. West

867
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 4: Matthews probably should have done that. More. But now they

868
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: have Drew Holiday, so I think they're better. Although they

869
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 4: definitely botched in the in the front office. I mean,

870
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: that's that's just a matter of fact, and that's just the.

871
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: Bucks need to go and take a serious look at

872
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 2: Dan LaRue, a Pelton Holland Jerl LaRue, so you get

873
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: somebody in there and knows what they're doing.

874
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: It could have been better. It could have been better.

875
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, they definitely mess that up.

876
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 7: You know.

877
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: DJ Augustine could be the guy who's closing games with

878
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 4: their their new big four, as their fifth guy.

879
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: He could be. I actually I like DJ Augustine. I

880
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: like him as a backup guard on a championship contending

881
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: team for sure. But I was a little surprised how

882
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: much he got. I'll be honest. That was a seven

883
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: million per year for three years. Is not not a

884
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: bad little deal for him. But it's a d J.

885
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Augustine we're talking about.

886
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's that's what. Yeah, they really they don't

887
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: have depth. So D J. Augustine, he jumps that meter,

888
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: he jumps in line there on their pecking order. He's

889
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a guy who plays coming down the

890
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 4: stretching games.

891
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: He's good at end of games. He's almost kind of

892
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: filling that broken roll. They're a little bit, you know,

893
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: like he can hit big shots. He doesn't make bad

894
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: decisions with the ball. He's obviously not a twenty five

895
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: point the gang guy, but you can trust him in

896
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: the games, and I think that's important.

897
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is funny because like the Bucks, we used

898
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: to get on bud because he just played all of

899
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: his guys too many damn minutes. Now they're pretty well,

900
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: there are a much more shallow It feels like some

901
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: maybe this is a good thing. Maybe he is forced

902
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: to just play his best players a whole lot more,

903
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: including honest just play the forty four minutes per game

904
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: waiting to get into a postseason game. So maybe maybe

905
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: this works out for them. They just trade it away

906
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: all their depth, so he has to play these guys

907
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: because they don't have anyone left. Yeah, all right, let's

908
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: hear from you guys out there in the stream team

909
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: and of course listening later. Let us know on Twitter

910
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: at no dunk sync answers to all these questions. But

911
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: how would you grade the Bucks off season so far?

912
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: You're giving it a B minus a C, or are

913
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: you waiting to see whether you're on his Side's the

914
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: supermax likely said, all right, a few more questions, guys,

915
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: just to sort of touch on a lot of the

916
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: I guess called more minor deals. From Saturday, day two

917
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: of free agency, we had some vets returning to their teams.

918
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony resigns with the Blazers for one year, Paul

919
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Millsap resigns with the Nuggets for one year, ten million dollars,

920
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: and JJ Burrea I wanted to slip him in there

921
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: for you. Lee, he resigns with the Mavericks and on

922
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: day one has them resigned with the Heat. But Trey,

923
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 2: we surprised by any of these deals, these guys going

924
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: back to their teams. I know it's a weird one

925
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: saying Mellow going back to his team, the Blazers, but

926
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: he did play there and he played. All right, what

927
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: do you think?

928
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm shocked by you Donnis Haslam going back to the

929
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 6: Miami Heat.

930
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 7: I thought this was the ear.

931
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 6: I thought this was the ear he was gonna try

932
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 6: somewhere else. But uh no, this is impossible to be

933
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 6: shocked by any of these deals. You mentioned, Berea. That's

934
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: very funny to me, Lee got JJ Berea's Mavericks shorts

935
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 6: like a decade ago, and they're both still wearing them.

936
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 6: They're gonna both be wearing them as long as they're

937
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: playing basketball.

938
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: I do think Paul Millsap.

939
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 6: I think, you know, he became cheap when he struggled

940
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 6: during the playoffs, and then he became very important for

941
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 6: the Nuggets to have back once Jeremy Grant left for

942
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 6: the Pistons. He's your fifth or sixth starter, depending on

943
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 6: what they want for their lineups. But for the Nuggets,

944
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 6: it's all about Michael Porter Junior's development. So if they're

945
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 6: gonna be rolling him out of the four, maybe you're

946
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 6: more comfortable closing games with Millsap. I guess the biggest

947
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: surprise that still a tiny surprise, is that Mellow seemed

948
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 6: to have basically no interest in chasing a title or

949
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 6: going back to the Knicks, but he's happy to come

950
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: back to the Blazers on a team where his role

951
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 6: will likely be decreasing. You know, they signed him almost

952
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: as an emergency player last year. Yeah, after Zach Collins

953
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 6: got hurt and after they had to try guarding Lebron

954
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 6: James with Mario Hazonia. It didn't work, so they brought

955
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 6: in Mellow and he seemed pretty happy there in Portland.

956
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 6: It looks like the team likes him. He's showing a

957
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 6: little bit of loyalty there. The Blazers should be a

958
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 6: better team this year than they were last year, assuming

959
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 6: everybody stays healthy. You know, Gary Trent looks like he's

960
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 6: a real player. Looks like we're gonna get a little

961
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 6: less mellow amongst the Portland Trail Blazers, but I'm happy

962
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 6: to see him back there.

963
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

964
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: What do you think tests any of these shock you?

965
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: Or did you want to talk specifically about Melo going

966
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: to Portland or going back to Portland.

967
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for the Blazers team. Robert Covington move

968
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: we talked about a little bit. Is is sort of

969
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: sneaky and the radar because Robert Covington doesn't get a

970
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 4: lot of headlines. But him slipping in that small Ford

971
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 4: spot is going to be great and it probably will

972
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 4: take some minutes away from Carmelo Anthony who I'm just

973
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 4: admiring the discipline of the New York Knicks front office.

974
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: They don't go and say, hey, Melo.

975
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 7: Come on back.

976
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: We missed you man, come on back for a nice

977
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: big contract. They're just so disciplined over there. They've signed

978
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: Alfred Payton for five mil. They signed Neurlans Noel for

979
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 4: five mil. And that's it. They're just chilling over there.

980
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 7: Who are these guys?

981
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: Who are I don't recognize these knicks, but the Blazers. Yeah,

982
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: I'm just pumped to see their their top to bottom

983
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 4: lineup with Niscanter also in the mix there. Yeah, Melo,

984
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: I hope he's happy. I hope he's happy with a

985
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: little bit of reduced shot distribution probably, but they'll still

986
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 4: find a way. They'll still get those shots up.

987
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 7: He says.

988
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: A big part of the reason that he's going back

989
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: to Portland because they were so upfront with him, like

990
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: when he was deciding whether or not he was going

991
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: to come back to the league and play, and they

992
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: were like, this is your role and we need you

993
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: to fill this. But that's funny because, yeah, has the

994
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: role changed because they've brought in other players and he

995
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: I guess he's gonna be okay with that. You would

996
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: assume they've been still upfront with him, and he's he

997
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: likes playing in Portland. Likes playing with Damie Lollard McCollum,

998
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: and he can still contribute. I think he can too.

999
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: Maybe less mellow is better mellow right in sort of

1000
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,959
Speaker 2: spot situations, Lee anything to add with those three guys.

1001
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Well, just with JJ Breer the shorts situation, I remember

1002
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: when I got those. It was game two of the

1003
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: twenty eleven finals. My dear friend Simon rest in Piece,

1004
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: he's no longer with us, he said, we met down

1005
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: at Real Sports in Toronto. He said, I got a

1006
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: little present for you, and I was like, oh great.

1007
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: And again we met up in the bar and he

1008
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: pulled out a pair of JJ.

1009
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Burrey is down.

1010
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: Very random, very rare.

1011
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: I still got that they're great shorts, and yeah.

1012
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: These are authentic NBA shorts.

1013
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: These are the ones that JJ Burrew wore at some

1014
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: point that I guess JJ Bray is probably going to

1015
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: just be like the Eudonis Haslim of the Mavericks and

1016
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: just keep signing those one ideas just.

1017
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: Just that was the player coach, Yeah, for sure.

1018
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: So, but I bet he's He's much loved on there

1019
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: in Dallas as well, of course Berrara and.

1020
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: In the same way.

1021
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: So I think he's got a contract there for as

1022
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: long as he wants won.

1023
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right.

1024
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: Other signings from again Saturday Day two. I'll run through

1025
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: a couple of them and you guys can tell me

1026
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: your favorite one. So Jay Crowder signed with the Suns

1027
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: for three years thirty million dollars. Mo Harkless signed with

1028
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: the Heat for one year three point six million. That's

1029
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: the bi annual exception. Chris Dunn signed with the Hawks

1030
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: CACAW for two years, ten million, second year player option.

1031
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: You said the two Knicks signings there tasks. Alfred Payton

1032
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: and nerlens Noel both one year, five million. Brad Wannamaker, Oh,

1033
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Brad Wanamaker, he is out of the Eastern Conference. I'm

1034
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: pumped as a Raptors fan. He's signed with the Warriors

1035
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: for one year two point twenty five million. De Anthony

1036
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Melton resigned with the Grizzlies for four years thirty five million.

1037
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Javon Carter resigned with the Sons three years eleven point

1038
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: five million, and a couple other ones. I won't go

1039
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: through them all, but Jeff Green signed with the Nets.

1040
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 2: He is going to Brooklyn Vets minimum. And Jeff Tigue

1041
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: signed with the Celtics also for the Vets minimum, and

1042
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 2: there's other ones, but again task gets started. Of those

1043
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: I mentioned, or maybe one I didn't even what was

1044
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: your favorite deal from day two? A free agency minor

1045
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: deal at least?

1046
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the Miami Heat. The NBA finalist

1047
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: Miami Heat had Jay Crowder starting throughout the postseason, but

1048
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: now he's going to Phoenix, and mo Hearkless could be

1049
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: the guy who takes this spot for only three point

1050
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 4: six million dollars if we're in the playoffs next season

1051
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 4: and mo Harkless is playing a key role, which he could.

1052
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: He played pretty well as a starter for the conference

1053
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: finalist Portland Trailblazers in twenty nineteen. I'm gonna be angry.

1054
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 4: I just it's just one of those It's one of

1055
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: those perfect signings. He could fit Jay Crowder's role, who

1056
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 4: he could wrote Phil really well, who kind of outpriced

1057
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: himself going to Phoenix. But I love what Phoenix is

1058
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: doing there with Jay crowd and resigning at Javon Carter.

1059
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 4: They look like a squad now. But mo Hearkless's is

1060
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: just perfect. That guy left. He's a little too much

1061
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 4: for us, because you know we are a championship team here.

1062
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: We're paying a lot of other guys, but you want

1063
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: to come in here for three and a half mil. Wow,

1064
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 4: And they get Avery Bradley as well. Their roster are

1065
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: just looking real strong there in Miami.

1066
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And they did all of this again without

1067
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: handicapping themselves for the twenty twenty one class, right with

1068
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: those three like Dragich, Myers, Leonard and Avery Bradley, and

1069
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: then of course Harkles is only a one year deal.

1070
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: Those those three previous guys I mentioned, they are all

1071
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: second year or team option second year, So yeah, they

1072
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna be good. Still, brought in all these pieces

1073
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: and didn't you know, handcuff themselves for the possibility of

1074
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: a big name coming into play in that free agency

1075
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, Trey, you already talked a little

1076
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: bit about, like Tristan Thompson and the Celtics. Is that

1077
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 2: one of your favorite deals there? You think he can help?

1078
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 7: I did.

1079
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 6: I did like that deal, but I don't have to

1080
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: Tristan Thompson takes in me, so I'm gonna have to

1081
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 6: play pay drum Martinez here and hit you with the

1082
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 6: change up. I do like the j Crowder deal for

1083
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: the Suns. I think he's going to be a huge

1084
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 6: help for them. I don't know if he's gonna shoot

1085
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 6: as well as he did in the Bubble. If you're

1086
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 6: able to combine the Bubble Sons with Bubble J Crowder,

1087
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 6: you might be the best team in the league right there.

1088
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 6: But at least very he is gonna at the least

1089
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 6: give them another option for a small ball for He's

1090
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 6: kind of a player type that the Sons don't really

1091
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 6: have yet, in that he's a very strong guy. He'll

1092
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: be able to take bumps a little bit more than

1093
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 6: maybe a Michale Bridges or a Cam Johnson would. It's

1094
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 6: just another defender who theoretically should be able to shoot.

1095
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 7: The ball pretty well.

1096
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 6: Coming off kickoffs kickouts from maybe Devin Booker or Chris Paul,

1097
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 6: there's going to be three pointers to take. Hopefully Jay

1098
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 6: Crowder is able to make him pretty good get I

1099
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 6: think for the Suns, Jay Crowder is one of those

1100
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 6: guys who helps teams on the verge become good teams.

1101
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if he takes a good team to

1102
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 6: a great team, but right now the Sons aren't there.

1103
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 6: He will help them for their playoff push.

1104
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, sons. I mean the moves they've made obviously with

1105
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: the big Chris Paul deal, like they they got to

1106
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: be in the playoffs, Like this is a playoff team.

1107
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: I love what they have there. And that's what Booker

1108
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: going to the next level too, which you would think

1109
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: would happen. So I like that as well, Crowterer coming

1110
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: in there, and I love Javon Carter too as a

1111
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: sort of a backup guard. The guy's a bulldog man.

1112
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: That guy's a good defensive player. He's sort of in

1113
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: the veen of Vampleet that way, Lee, what do you

1114
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: have for a major deal that you liked?

1115
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: Jeff Green just keeps on keeping on.

1116
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: Ah, Yeah, team I think in seven years.

1117
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's only thirty three to Jeff Green, so

1118
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I can see him he can maybe do fifty percent

1119
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: of the league by the time his career is done,

1120
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: and he can join that many teams. But you know,

1121
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 1: you go back to a couple of those games against Okay,

1122
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: see he had twenty two points twice. He hits six threes.

1123
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: You know, like that's what Jeff Green does. He just

1124
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: does enough for someone to think maybe maybe he can

1125
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: still contribute in the NBA, but actually joining up with

1126
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant again might be good for him as well,

1127
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: because I think if you look back over Jeff Green's career,

1128
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: his best year was probably like his second or third

1129
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: year there. And okay, see with Kevin Durant. So will

1130
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: that make have any impact on him?

1131
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe not.

1132
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: But Jeff Green can hit those three pointers, that's all

1133
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: he really needs to do. He'll have a couple of

1134
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: games where he goes for twenty five points and then

1135
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: he'll probably have ten games where he scores less than

1136
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: five points. And you wonder how he sort of hangs

1137
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: on onto a team, but he just does just enough

1138
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: to have everyone sort of thing. Maybe this guy is

1139
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: still a legit NBA player, so good to see him

1140
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: in the league.

1141
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: Still, is Jeff Green going to play center for the

1142
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets like he did at times with the Rockets?

1143
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: I made sure, sure, why not? Why not?

1144
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: That's how he may may stay out on the floor there,

1145
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: but you know, he'll have a couple of explosive dunks

1146
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: as well. He'll he'll have his moments.

1147
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 7: That's what he does.

1148
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: He has his moments for sure, and.

1149
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: By all accounts, he's like the best guy.

1150
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1151
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean everybody loves Jeff Green. They like want him

1152
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: on their team, they want him in the locker room,

1153
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: and he's such a professional. I guess he's a great hang.

1154
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.

1155
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 4: They do Jeff Green.

1156
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 7: There is I think I think they need.

1157
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 4: I think they need a guy like that in the

1158
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 4: locker room too. I know they have those type of

1159
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: guys on the coaching staff, but I think it's it's

1160
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: good to have one of those dudes, you know, amongst

1161
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: KD and Kyrie.

1162
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure.

1163
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 4: I think it's a nice little fit. Team number ten

1164
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 4: for Jeff Green, but I like it.

1165
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: Team number two. He played on the Sonics, right with

1166
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant.

1167
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Yes, he did his yeah season, I think only the

1168
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: first season and then he did. Anyone want to have

1169
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: a quick trivia if he can name Jeff team Jeff

1170
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: Green teams.

1171
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: Him and k are the only guys left in the

1172
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: league that played on the Seattle super Sonics. Y.

1173
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we're so we're counting the Sonics. Yes, okay,

1174
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: so then we're thunder. He played on the He played

1175
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: on the Wizards. He played on the Celtics.

1176
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Wizard Celtics, Yes, Rockets, Rockets, Yes, Caves, Jazz Magic, Jazz Magic, Yeses.

1177
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know if you said one

1178
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: more yes, he played for the Clippers, Yes.

1179
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 4: First round draft?

1180
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: So one more team?

1181
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 3: Did you say Washington? I'm not sure? Yeah, yeah, that's all.

1182
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: That's all.

1183
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: Wow, do we know Jeff Green? Or do we know

1184
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: Jeff Green?

1185
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: And he missed an entire season due to a heart

1186
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: condition he had when he was only twenty five, So

1187
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, good on him for being able to bounce

1188
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: back from something like that.

1189
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: All right, so you're going Jeff Green going to Brooklyn.

1190
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: I'll finish this off here. I'm interested to her take

1191
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: tre Chris Chris dunnos.

1192
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: None.

1193
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: No, he's more than that, Chris done. He got actually

1194
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: ten million dollars from the Hawks. I think this makes sense,

1195
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: Like the Rondo and him, they had money first off,

1196
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: and they still have enough money to make a move

1197
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: at Bogdanovic. I think it's still in play that they

1198
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: could throw like something like I think it's like eighteen

1199
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: or nineteen million they could offer him, and then you

1200
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: can see what the Kings do whether they match. But anyway,

1201
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: I like these two guys coming in here defensive guys,

1202
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: of course, and who knows with Rondo. I mean, if

1203
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: you make the playoffs, then you're laughing because you've got

1204
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: playoff Rondo. But Chris Done, he's damn good on that

1205
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: end of the floor, and he's not that old. He

1206
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: sort of fits the timeline a little bit here for

1207
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: the Hawks, and you just need some defensive players. Like,

1208
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: he's not going to be a star by any means,

1209
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: even though he was a high draft pick. I think

1210
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: we all know that now. That doesn't mean he can't

1211
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: carve out a long NBA career, especially bringing it on

1212
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: the defensive end. So he played for your bowls, Tray, Like,

1213
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: what did you think about the Hawks picking him up

1214
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: here in free agency?

1215
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 6: Well, I think you're exactly right with what you call

1216
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 6: them skeets. On defense, he's Chris Done. On offense, he's

1217
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 6: Chris None. You're not gonna be getting me to give

1218
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 6: a review on any Bulls player who played from twenty

1219
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 6: seventeen onwards. This guy stinks on offense. He's as bad

1220
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 6: on offense as he is on defense. But he's gonna

1221
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 6: likely be the third point guard for Atlanta. They'll throw

1222
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 6: him into guard. People when it's absolutely necessary and they

1223
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 6: need it. They got mostly offensive players on that team,

1224
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 6: so somebody who actually cares about defense will certainly help

1225
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 6: the Hawks. But you shouldn't expect a whole bunch from Christmaler.

1226
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that's fair though. But you can see

1227
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: you can squint and see him sort of working if

1228
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: he's out there, even as a second guard with Trey Young,

1229
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 2: who doesn't.

1230
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 6: I mean, I hear about I honestly can't you, because

1231
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: that's exactly what the Bulls had with Chris Dunn. They

1232
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 6: couldn't play him at guard. They had to play him

1233
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 6: at a backup small forward. And yes, he was a

1234
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 6: good defender as a backup small forward, but he's way

1235
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 6: quicker than everybody he's guarding because he's a backup small

1236
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 6: forward who's actually a point guard. But yeah, they also

1237
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 6: got Rondo, who is great in national TV games in

1238
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 6: the playoffs.

1239
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: Let's see how that Yeah, I know that that one

1240
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: is interesting. You got paid too, I mean, fifteen million

1241
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: not bad for Rondo as he gets up there in

1242
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: age and is not making nearly that for the last couple. So, uh, yeah,

1243
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 2: the Hawks are bringing in some guys that actually give

1244
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: a give a damn every once in a while about

1245
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: the defense, so that maybe.

1246
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: Every once in a while that's what you want.

1247
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: Well, four games, that's great, done done.

1248
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: Cares, But I don't mind it. I don't look again

1249
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: as long as he doesn't take him out of the

1250
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: Bogdanovitch running here, which it really doesn't. And I think

1251
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 2: that's what it would cost to get him. If they're

1252
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: going to make a move on him, then then I

1253
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: don't mind it because they have the money. They got

1254
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: to give it to somebody here. And have you seen

1255
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: the left the rest of the names and free agency

1256
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: out there? There's not a whole lot.

1257
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

1258
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: You know, we're still waiting on Anthony Davis. He's going

1259
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: to Lakers, brandon Ingram. I don't think he's leaving New Orleans.

1260
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: And then what is there?

1261
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 7: Guys?

1262
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: It's like Marcus sool as we talked about Harry Giles's.

1263
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 7: Gotta take a chance on Harry Giles. I'm still a believer.

1264
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Reggie Jackson I think is still a free agent.

1265
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a Morris Twin that I think is

1266
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: still available, But there's not a lot Tassela, Is there

1267
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: anyone else?

1268
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 4: I'm forgetting No, yeah, Mark Heith Morris, I'm looking forward

1269
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 4: to some Harry styles, Harry Giles split screens when that happens.

1270
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: And Lee Ellis let's get oh yeah les.

1271
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, still still a free agent.

1272
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 4: Might not happen, so that sucks. That sucks forru Lee Ellis.

1273
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, nothing yet so far. But still it's early.

1274
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: There's a few days to go.

1275
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see.

1276
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: I could see the next offering. You were one here.

1277
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah, I mean, geez, who did you say?

1278
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: You said Nerlin's Noel and well and that's it.

1279
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 7: Wow, Well didn't Larry Johnson go from the Hornets?

1280
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: They not better than giving Gordon Hereward one hundred and

1281
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: twenty million for four I think.

1282
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: It is man, Yeah, I don't know it just man,

1283
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: just like they brought in Steve Stouton and who else?

1284
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: Maverick Carter is there too, is he?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: And they haven't even I mean they haven't even been

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00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: rumored really to get anyone close, have they really? I

1289
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Speaker 1: don't think so. I can't think of anyone who was

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Speaker 1: like maybe going to the Knicks, So that's pretty bad.

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Speaker 7: Not really as a free agent.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they've been in the they've been in the

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00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 6: Knicks mix for Westbrook. Obviously they'll probably somehow accidentally get

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Speaker 6: John Wall, because that'd be the Knicks plan of getting Westbrook.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know. They're slow playing it here.

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Speaker 6: You know, if if they threw the bag at Fred

1297
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 6: van Vliet that the Hornets did at Gordon Hayward, the

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Speaker 6: Knicks are getting crushed today.

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Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. I think that that much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, if it was four eighty five, maybe not,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: But if they get John Wall and give up some

1303
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: of the future of him, they'll get crushed for that too.

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah. Playing it right now, they're doing all right,

1305
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 7: they're doing all right. The next you're just gonna be bad.

1306
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 7: They're just gonna be bad. Maybe they'll get the number

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Speaker 7: one pick.

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Speaker 3: That's cool, that's something being bad.

1309
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's their their galaxy brain thing is like

1310
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: everybody things, we're just gonna be bad again, but we're

1311
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: actually gonna be good. Now. That's it's just gonna happen

1312
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: that they're gonna somehow be good because kicks them.

1313
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Speaker 1: I guess the fans want to be booing them in

1314
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Speaker 1: the arena for a year, so they can at least

1315
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Speaker 1: live off of that and be like, listen, we gotta

1316
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: be bad anyway?

1317
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Speaker 3: Who cas? So? Yeah? All right?

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Speaker 2: Anything else to add? Guys here on a Sunday recapping

1319
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: day two of free agency, was there any deals that

1320
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: you wanted to really address or you know, waiting to hear,

1321
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: like I said, Bogdanovic, Any predictions tasks on what happens

1322
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: with this guy? Do you think it is the Hawks

1323
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: who vince Carter Wright? Is that going to be enough

1324
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 2: to get him?

1325
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: I think so.

1326
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1327
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 4: They have a lot a lot of coin, as you said,

1328
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 4: whatever that number works out to be in the high teens.

1329
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: Bogie is, He's coveted, and I just wonder what it

1330
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: does for the Hawks. Obviously. I know a lot of

1331
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 4: people outside Atlanta don't have any faith in in the

1332
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 4: Kevin Herder, Cam Reddish, DeAndre Hunter triumvirate.

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: But why not?

1334
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: Why not have a little faith in those guys. I

1335
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: just wonder what it does to those guys if you

1336
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: bring Bogie in plus Gallinari, plus John Collins. But hey,

1337
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: I'm just a Hawks believer here, so don't mind me.

1338
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: If they'd be a bog Bog, they would have a

1339
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: lot of like decent players like would feel like like

1340
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: almost too many maybe, but exactly they're so bad that

1341
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: you need a bunch of even decent players and maybe

1342
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: you can actually get some ws and get into the playoffs.

1343
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: All right, well let's call it there. Nice to do

1344
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: back to back classics on the weekend. Guys, appreciate you

1345
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: JD for jumping on here on Saturday and Sunday for

1346
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: knocking out these free agency podcasts. Let us know what

1347
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: you think about all the questions I threw at these guys.

1348
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, you can email us No Dunks at

1349
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com. You can tweet at us at

1350
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: no Dunksinc. Shout out to the stream team for joining us.

1351
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: Did great numbers on Saturday. I don't know how we

1352
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: did on Sunday. Maybe they dipped a little bit, but

1353
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: nice interest is free agency not too bad? Well thanks

1354
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: for joining us, guys, and again, beach step in coming

1355
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: up probably next week.

1356
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Speaker 7: Well likely don't have a.

1357
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: Podcast on Monday unless there's a big trade, unless there's

1358
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: a John Waller of Westbrooker a heart And because like

1359
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: we said, there's not a lot of guys left in

1360
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: free agency, I don't think Bogdanovich is gonna, you know,

1361
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: warrant his own Monday podcast, But if something crazy happens,

1362
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: we'll jump on Monday or Tuesday and we'll have a

1363
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: fun beach step in a little bit earlier in the

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00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: week because it's Thanksgiving down here in the States later

1365
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,240
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1366
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1368
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Speaker 7: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 7: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember you can call them

1372
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,040
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1373
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: back to backs.

1374
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Speaker 2: Embrace the weekend.

1375
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 6: People.

1376
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: You could stay.

1377
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Speaker 4: Every day and that'd be happy every minute.

1378
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: It's been so long with your funna already, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be gravy.