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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Nola.

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Speaker 4: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our

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Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 4: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff

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Speaker 4: they don't want you to know. If you are listening

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Speaker 4: to our strange news program The Evening it publishes, Folks,

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Speaker 4: friends and neighbors, Welcome to Monday, September fifteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: We have so much to get to where we're going

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Speaker 4: to figure it out as we go along. As Bill

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Speaker 4: O'Reilly once said, we're working live. We want to keep

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Speaker 4: this short. So just so everybody knows there are robber

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Speaker 2: What are robber bees?

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks to our friends at CBC News, particularly the

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Speaker 4: journalist Lauren Vanderdene, we know that robber bees are invading

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Speaker 4: apiary shops. Apery just being the fancy name for bee keepers,

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Speaker 4: robber bees, that's a description for bees that try to

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Speaker 4: take honey from another colonies hive. Now, we are not

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Speaker 4: aparist correct so far.

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Speaker 3: Not that I know. Nonetheless, I have a secret be

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Speaker 3: certification hanging on somewhere. I don't think. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: The answer is not yet. But we are aware that

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Speaker 2: that's kind of a.

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Speaker 4: Move on behalf of the bees, not on behalf of

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Speaker 4: the bee keepers. Right now, this is a story that

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Speaker 4: is very close to Dylan as well as to ourselves,

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Speaker 4: because we love a heist and we love a bee,

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Speaker 4: and we love some money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honey's one of the best things you can put

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Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go. That's our cold open, and we

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Speaker 4: have returned. We've got a lot of breaking news happening

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Speaker 4: as we're recording. We're going to get into some conversations

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Speaker 4: about commando operations that reached the Western world recently. We

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Speaker 4: were on the fence off air about whether or not

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Speaker 4: we were going to give a real pill, a real

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Speaker 2: Just no.

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Speaker 4: An evil person went to jail after building an empire

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Speaker 4: based on sexual exploitation. They've been sentenced to twenty seven

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Speaker 4: years in federal prison, but it's not who you're thinking of.

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Speaker 4: I hate that to say that it's not Epstein List related.

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Speaker 3: How did I miss this? I don't think I know

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Speaker 3: who you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Ben, it's adult entertainment related.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: A guy named Michael James Pratt pled guilty in June

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Speaker 4: show except for our terrible jokes, which are probably in

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Speaker 4: general not suited for the public. We just want you

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Speaker 4: to know that the wheels of justice may grind slow,

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Speaker 4: but exceedingly fine. Now with that news, and you can

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Speaker 4: find it on your own. There's tons of AP articles

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Speaker 4: ICE here in the United States. As we were coming

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Speaker 4: added more octane to the fire. There is a Hondai

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Speaker 4: Have we ever been to label?

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Speaker 3: I've never even heard of it.

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Speaker 2: No, but you've come pretty close if you've ever visited

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Back in twenty twenty three, Hondai Motor and LG

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Speaker 2: Some of the people who were caught up in that

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Speaker 2: Let's say, as the South Korean diplomats fly here immediately

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Speaker 2: heck do we fix this, because this doesn't look good

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Speaker 2: for anybody. This isn't good for a large number of

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Speaker 2: that got built up around that facility, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's some great stories in here just about the South

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Speaker 2: it's all just to say it's complicated, it's not fun,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't look great, especially considering the giant energy

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Speaker 4: Right, let's talk about that. So in July twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: upon her own cognizance, she had her safety concerns and

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Speaker 4: there is a specific type of visa that is fairly

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Speaker 4: It's around ninety days. It's around ninety days. And the

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Speaker 4: idea here is that the South Korean nationals, who are

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Speaker 4: and then they would return. Idea be that their company,

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what the question is, why the hell would

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Speaker 4: And he was a SAC for this, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well there you go, SAC Stephen Schrenk.

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Speaker 4: Right, we want to thank three journalists in particular from

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Speaker 4: this is not a place that makes cars. This is

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Speaker 3: Dylan.

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Speaker 4: I hope there was an appropriate sound cue, and you

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Speaker 2: And we've returned. There is an entire just as you

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Speaker 2: going down. It would be incredible if there was some

438
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: kind of prescription you could get where you literally go in,

439
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, once every couple of months, twice three times

440
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: a year, take a dose, and now you're back on

441
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: track and you're no longer suffering from a lot of

442
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: the again, kind of like the the change your brain

443
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: can put on you sometimes.

444
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean people report that from taking what they would

445
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: call like ego obliterating doses of LSD, like a one

446
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: time thing where all of a sudden, everything hits a

447
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: little different, or you make these connections that are very meaningful,

448
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: or you just find a new way of reframing things

449
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 3: like addiction. But it's also like it's fascinating. I'd love

450
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: to are there any reports from of these experiences and

451
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: like what resulted or like like actual you know, on

452
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: the ground reports, or are we looking at like more

453
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: database stuff.

454
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Speaker 2: What I found is just a small write up and

455
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: then you can you can actually go to jama and

456
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: look at the thing. I did not pay for it

457
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: to look at the entire study. Here's a quick quote

458
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: from somebody who was involved, Harriet DeWitt, amazing PhD. Professor

459
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience at the

460
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: University of Chicago. Quote is, all forty people assigned to

461
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: the two hundred milligram dose reported perceptual changes that may

462
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: be part of the therapeutic effect. We don't know, but

463
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily an adverse effect.

464
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Speaker 4: I just like we would we would also like more funding.

465
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and more d if that's cool, please. I don't know,

466
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: it's just fascinating thing. We don't know anything yet. Phase

467
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: three trials are underway right now, so we'll no more,

468
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, in a couple of maybe years. And then

469
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a little juxtaposition with that story

470
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: and this other one come out of the Guardian. Four

471
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: hikers on magic mushrooms, one with debilitating high rescued in

472
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: New York.

473
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: Saw that one man set and setting like Ben likes

474
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: the same, the raw wilderness. Maybe isn't the best place

475
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: to take that amount?

476
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. And the juxtaposition is just to show

477
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: that these types of drugs are not to be taken lightly. Right.

478
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: It is the set and setting thing that we've discussed

479
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: before on this show. Make sure you know where you're

480
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Speaker 2: who you're with.

481
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, these four four, these poor for folks ingested

482
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: their psychedelics out in the Strait of Macau and they

483
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 4: started walking.

484
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a quote for the article. They were found.

485
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: They're in the Catskills Mountains there in New York and

486
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: they were lost there. There was an emergency satellite call

487
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: that said, hey, there's a group of four hikers lost

488
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: near a Giant Ledge in the Slide Mountain wilderness.

489
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Speaker 3: This is called Giant Ledge. Is the yeah place? Yeah,

490
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: in the Slide Mountains wilderness. The sound like very you

491
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: gotta see, you.

492
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: Gotta get there, you got you'll know what they're talking.

493
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: I believe it. Non American listeners, we know this sounds

494
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: like beat me here, Dylan bullshit. But consider also the

495
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 4: Grand Canyon, which measures up to the hype.

496
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I've never been to this specific area Giant Ledge,

497
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: but there are elevations ranging from eleven hundred feet to

498
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: twenty six hundred feet with sheer cliffs and drops. Now

499
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: imagine being supper high on mushrooms.

500
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Speaker 3: Yikes, the anxiety is thinking about it.

501
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Speaker 2: According to the article, complicating matters for the group of

502
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: hikers was the fact that they had also lost their

503
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: car keys. Sorry to laugh at it.

504
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 3: It is funny. My Buddy Jonesy on the we to

505
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: Day f News podcast talked about this, and I believe

506
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: there's a twist. Didn't they find the car keys in

507
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: like a really odd place that like some people that

508
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: are way too high on acid might have of hitting them,

509
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: like like put yourself in the situation where like, well

510
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: you got to get rid of the car keys, man,

511
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's like.

512
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: Well, who knows. And and it was probably a terrifying

513
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: experience for these guys. Is under a log or something,

514
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: or they found one of those bags, like a sling

515
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: bag or something and it just had the keys in it.

516
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: Here's a quote. Rangers provided a courtesy ride to the

517
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: subject's rental lodging that's where they were staying. They added

518
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: that ranger Russell Martin hiked back up the following day

519
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: and found a sling bag with the keys under a

520
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: log in tall ferns. So good on you, Ranger Martin.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

522
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. He also said, I'm not an expert in mushrooms,

523
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: but these gentlemen definitely rode highs and lows.

524
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: It's very diplomatic.

525
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: There you go. That's all for me, guys.

526
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: You know, be careful out there.

527
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: Well, anything that has amazing potential for the positive probably

528
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: has potential for a negative too. So, as we've said

529
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: before on the show, just just think, think really hard

530
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: before you do something like that, but also try and

531
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: be open to the possibility that something like that could hold.

532
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: A key to helping people.

533
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 5: All Right, we'll be right back, and we return with

534
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Speaker 5: today's last segment on the Strange News.

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Speaker 3: Weekly podcast from Stuff They Don't Want You To Know. Guys,

536
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: I really am excited about this one. It's intense, it's

537
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: a little heavy. I do think that it is worth

538
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: an episode on its own, and that is largely because

539
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: I immediately asked the question when I saw this story.

540
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Sweden has a crime problem. Sweden just seems and I

541
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: know that's totally cleared. It's absolutely gender overgeneralizing, and you

542
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 3: know there's crime everywhere, but it just seems like such

543
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: a lovely, idyllic place with like, you know, socialized medicine,

544
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: and everyone's just very happy. Apparently the you know, the

545
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: quality of life is very good. But yeah, as it

546
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: turns out, apparently gang warfare like organized crime is up

547
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: in a big way in the country of Sweden, and

548
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: teen girls are being used as assassins in these really

549
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: brutal and bloody turf wars. This is real, This is

550
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: very real. CBS News had this report that came out

551
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: just a couple of days ago. Teenage girls are hiring

552
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: themselves as hit women in Sweden's organized crime war, keen

553
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: to prove they are more deadly and ruthless than young men.

554
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 3: And that's according to prosecutors who are trying to put

555
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: the crack down on this type of activity. I had

556
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Speaker 3: a case involving a fifteen year old girl, said prosecutor

557
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Ada Arnell, recruited to shoot someone in the head. She

558
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: was able to choose the type of mission she wanted,

559
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: in other words, to aim at the guy's door or

560
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: his head. She chose the head. She was arrested with

561
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: a seventeen year old male accomplice who pulled the trigger,

562
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: leaving the victim clinging for life after being shot in

563
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: the next stomach and legs. Apparently this is part of

564
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Speaker 3: an absolute epidemic there of young teenage women or young

565
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: teenage girls putting themselves forth to offer their services to

566
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Speaker 3: what's being described here as mobsters organized criminals through encrypted

567
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: messaging sites. Often it is an issue surrounding the law

568
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: as well, because if they are under the age of eighteen,

569
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Speaker 3: it is harder for them to prosecute kids under fifteen.

570
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Speaker 3: In particular, you're seeing even more of shootings and bombings,

571
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Speaker 3: they say are at a nearly daily occurrence. Organized crime

572
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: often recruiting teenagers as young as fifteen, which is the

573
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Speaker 3: age of criminal responsibility, to do their dirty work on

574
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Speaker 3: some of these encrypted apps like Telegram in general. Are

575
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: Nell says young kids are thirsty for blood on these

576
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: chats and to kind of, I don't know, echo the

577
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: point that I was making earlier, at least my perception,

578
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: and maybe y'all's too. Sweden has historically had a very

579
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Speaker 3: low crime rate, but these gangs which have emerged over

580
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: the last a little less than two decades round fifteen years,

581
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: have changed the landscape with you know, drug trafficking, weapons, trafficking,

582
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: human trafficking, things like welfare fraud, which I wouldn't really

583
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: think would be in the realm of organized crime, but

584
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: I guess over there it's maybe a little more lucrative.

585
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: But no, that's not true. Over here, I suppose there's

586
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Speaker 3: welfare fraud or trying to defraud elderly folks of their

587
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, social security and things like that. It's I

588
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: guess it's sort of similar. So it's gotten so bad

589
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: that the government is now referring to it as a

590
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: systematic threat. Oh yeah, here's an interesting detail here. There

591
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: apparently have been infiltrations into the actual government or the

592
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: structure that runs Sweden's welfare system, as well as local politics.

593
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Politicians are rather being bought off and bribed and perhaps

594
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 3: even crooked from, you know, as working directly with some

595
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: of these gangs, as well as the education system and

596
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: the juvenile detention care system. A lot of these networks

597
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: operate in the same similar fashion to terrorist cells, as

598
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: well as having networks that extend outside of the boundaries

599
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: of Sweden, so you're seeing you know, or orchestrated assassinations,

600
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 3: shootings in timidations, bombings that are contracted out through these

601
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: encrypted sites. I really do. There is there's a lot

602
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: more to this, y'all. I just wanted to bring up

603
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: because I was not aware of this problem over there.

604
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: And again I know that I have probably a bit

605
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: of a rose colored glasses, you know, perspective on Sweden.

606
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: But Ben, you were telling me when we talked about

607
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: this off mic, that this is not exclusively within Sweden.

608
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: This is something that's extending even beyond its borders to

609
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: who I believe, Denmark.

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: Yep, that's correct, got it.

611
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Speaker 2: Oh, this is weird. There's there's stuff in here about

612
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: crime organizations I've never heard of. Oh, I guess that's

613
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: what is that weird? Yeah, of course we've probably never

614
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: heard of these. These are crime organizations that are operating

615
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: in Sweden, but again, as you said before, from another place,

616
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: but operating in Sweden and other countries like Denmark, like

617
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: the Rumba Crime Organization r u MBA.

618
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: The Foxtrot crime network.

619
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, not as fun as this happen, nah nah.

620
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Speaker 2: But headed by people names like Raua Majied and I.

621
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Speaker 3: Believe that's Sweden's one of Sweden's most wanted criminals, who

622
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: is designated by the US Treasury as being responsible for

623
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: a massive swath of the illegal drug trade in Sweden.

624
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Speaker 4: And a full two thirds of the people that are

625
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: documented in these crimes. The kids have also been victims themselves,

626
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: largely of sexual violence. Just to be clear, this is

627
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: this is not something like hit Girl from kick Ass.

628
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely no, there's no romanticization implied here whatsoever. And we

629
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: certainly have seen these kind of tactics as far as

630
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: child soldiers, as far as other you know, gangs here

631
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: in the United States, you know, initiation, the situations where

632
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: a young child in order to join a gang, maybe

633
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: the West Coast type situation is what you might be

634
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: familiar with, going out and shooting a rival gang member

635
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: in order to earn their stripes. So this is absolutely

636
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: not unique, but I just it's a little interesting specifically

637
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: that they're young women and as the setting just seems

638
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: very very unusual to me. But again, I know, no

639
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: place in the world is immune from from criminal.

640
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: Enterprise, especially now with decentralized operational networks. Consider also, as

641
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: terrible as is to say it, consider also the grooming

642
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: networks in places like the United Kingdom, throughout Turkey, throughout

643
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: Eastern Europe, and indeed throughout Germany.

644
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's I think that's the thing I'm feeling

645
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: a little puzzled about because this Ismail Abdoh was arrested

646
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: in Turkey and so and he is I guess going easy.

647
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: They call him transnational criminal organization. And then the other person,

648
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Raba Majid, He's Iranian born, Kurdish Swedish, which is an

649
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: interesting thing, and then operating from various other countries in

650
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: that you know, generalized area, super generalized area. But it

651
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: is it's interesting that they're not Swedish gangs, right or

652
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Speaker 2: if you imagine, I don't know how to describe that

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Speaker 2: better than it's just not what in my mind expected

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Speaker 2: when I'm hearing like Swedish organized crime.

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Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, And that's that's a point that we need

656
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Speaker 4: to emphasize here because wrapped up in these observations act

657
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 4: is a this data. There's also a lot of xenophobia.

658
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Speaker 4: That's why we're mentioning the United Kingdom, right, and the

659
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Speaker 4: idea of let's say it, the idea of South Asian

660
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Speaker 4: grooming gangs or drug cartels, right, or Albanian mafia from taken.

661
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Speaker 4: The idea is that if you find a villain that

662
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Speaker 4: you can put a face on and other them. Then

663
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Speaker 4: your society is not as bad. It's just those pesky foreigners,

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Speaker 4: and that's happening right now. Do check out our full

665
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Speaker 4: episode on Japan's far right. Spoiler Russia is paying for it.

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Speaker 2: Read the news about the US, you know.

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Speaker 3: Percent, and if you dig deeper, there's a lot of

668
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Speaker 3: sources about this. So I think we maybe roll this

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Speaker 3: out into maybe a deeper dive down the line where

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Speaker 3: there are some interviews and perspectives from some young people

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Speaker 3: that were recruited into these organizations, oftentimes due to drug

672
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Speaker 3: addicted parents, abusive home lives, you know, finding their way

673
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Speaker 3: into drug addiction themselves, using some of these connections in

674
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Speaker 3: order to finance their own drug addiction and that slippery

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Speaker 3: slope of like going from say, you know, low level

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Speaker 3: drug dealing to literally, you know, murdering people for pay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll put a pin in that one for now.

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Speaker 3: And I'd love to just quickly before we wrap today,

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Speaker 3: move on to a story that Matt hipped me to

681
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Speaker 3: about the QAnon queen. Y'all, she's back. Remember this Canadian

682
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Speaker 3: that the woman that kind of designated herself or declared

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Speaker 3: herself the Queen of Canada and was telling.

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Speaker 4: I want to thank everybody who reached out to us

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Speaker 4: regarding this story. We got a lot, of course.

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Speaker 3: That we did. Yeah it was Matt, he told me

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Speaker 3: about it. But yeah, I know for sure, it's a

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Speaker 3: story we've been following. I think the way I put

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Speaker 3: it was, we've been following this character's journey. There's a

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Speaker 3: whole situation where she took up residency in this abandoned

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Speaker 3: school in a town where nobody wanted her, and there

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Speaker 3: was this kind of simmering sort of feeling of like,

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Speaker 3: is this a Waco type situation? Gun control is a

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Speaker 3: big deal in Canada, and this arrest that we're talking

695
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Speaker 3: about today stemmed from a potential gun charge. And it

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Speaker 3: did turn out, I don't know what you guys saw,

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Speaker 3: but that the guns that were recovered were actually replicas,

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Speaker 3: which means they would be non lethal, I assume, But

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Speaker 3: they still did detain this woman in Saskatchewan. Romana Didulo,

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Speaker 3: the QAnon inspired conspiracy theorist who has basically received the

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Speaker 3: support from a lot of big figurehead types online in

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Speaker 3: the QAnon community, and who basically started her own group

703
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Speaker 3: called the Kingdom of Canada, where she seemingly has been

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Speaker 3: responsible for ruining some members' lives in declaring that all

705
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Speaker 3: of their debts were null and void and were absolved.

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Speaker 3: And this led to a lot of people losing their

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Speaker 3: homes and you know, having their utilities shut down and

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Speaker 3: all of that stuff. But she had been living in

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Speaker 3: the village of Richmond in Saskatchewan for the past two

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Speaker 3: years and apparently posted this arrest live as a stream

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Speaker 3: on her telegram channel. And in the video you can

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Speaker 3: see three armed officers entering a room and asking her

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Speaker 3: to put the phone down and learning her to the

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Speaker 3: fact that she is under arrest. This was the Royal

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Speaker 3: Canadian Mounted Police, who, to what I was saying earlier,

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Speaker 3: seized four replica handguns after searching the building and eight

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Speaker 3: RVs on the property.

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Speaker 2: No. I first learned about this in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: when you brought it to us on Strange News. You interesting,

720
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Speaker 2: we've been.

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Speaker 3: Talking about this the Travails of the Q and on

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Speaker 3: Queen for a hot minute now.

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Speaker 2: Well, then one of the stories you brought in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three was that they she stole an RV.

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Speaker 3: That's right, she did love an RV there was a

726
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: bit of a low speed RV chase type situation. You're

727
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: not wrong, Matt, but do you understand Guys, did you

728
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: read any deeper or see anything? It seems like is

729
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: this a technicality? I mean, are are replicas functioning? Aren't

730
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Speaker 3: they just meant? Isn't that sort of the deal? They're

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Speaker 3: just sort of that they've got the firing pins removed

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Speaker 3: and they aren't actually lethal.

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Speaker 2: It's a little weird because we're talking about terminology that

734
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Speaker 2: is not specifically US.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: So there are like airsoft style guns that are replicas

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Speaker 2: of like let's say an AK forty seven or a

738
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Speaker 2: glock or something like that. It looks like it, except

739
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: it's got a little red tip on the end and

740
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Speaker 2: it shoots little pellets.

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Speaker 3: You remember that scene in a snatch? Yeah, maybe it

742
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Speaker 3: was Lockstock and like this, my gun says desert eagle,

743
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: you know whatever, and yours says replica, And then they

744
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: zoom in and you see the letters. And so that

745
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: was my first exposure to the idea of a replica weapon,

746
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Speaker 3: which I think it was implying that it doesn't fire.

747
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Speaker 3: But then there is a part of me too that

748
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: because of maybe the regionalism of the of the terminology.

749
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me it's like a knockoff, or it's

750
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: some kind of weapon that does fire. It just looks

751
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: like a specific type of weapon. But they that did

752
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: seem to be enough to get her, though it doesn't

753
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 3: appear that any charges have been filed, and she has

754
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Speaker 3: been a thorn in the side of the Canadian Mounted

755
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: Police for some time now. So I don't know, Ben,

756
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: with some of the sources that the listeners threw our way,

757
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: did you clock any more details than I've gleaned here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as you said, more to common. Perhaps we could

759
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: make this an episode. There is a journey, as Matt outlined,

760
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: that you've been following for some years. So again, we

761
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: want to thank everybody who contacted us regarding this, especially

762
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: the cryptic messages blowed up by social media that just

763
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: said the queen is dead and thank you folks for

764
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Speaker 4: keeping us on our toes.

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Speaker 2: One thing I did find, guys, is that there was

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Speaker 2: there was some charge related to intimidating people incluing a

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Speaker 2: police officer.

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Speaker 3: They've been talking about that since the like there was

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00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: a whole standoff kind of situation back when they took

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00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: up residency in this abandoned school, and I assumed that

771
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: they would have you been run out of town on

772
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: a rail. But this is the first indication, at least

773
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, that that seems to have

774
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: taken and that they've just been there this whole time.

775
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: This is weird and there was implied intimidation. And I

776
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: thought that in that story there were guns involved, that

777
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: they had weapons, and that they were posted up on

778
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: rooftops or something. But now the details are I think

779
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: we maybe it's a really good point. Then maybe we

780
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 3: collect a lot of this stuff and maybe see what happens,

781
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: because there is really no further information as to what.

782
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: It does say that six of her followers were also arrested, So.

783
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a tale of being taken in and

784
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: while we don't know the entire jury trial process, in

785
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 2: a diamond process there in Canada, she was brought in

786
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: and she elected to go to a trial by jury, right,

787
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: and of course, well because of that thing, Because of

788
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: doing that, it means you're not going to be in

789
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: court for a while, so you're let out. You have

790
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: very specific stipulations, like don't go near the people that

791
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: you intimidated, and don't go back to the place where

792
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: you've been running a cult, and don't possess weapons. And

793
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: apparently it was just a situation where maybe one or

794
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: two of those conditions were not met, and then she

795
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: found herself arrested again and again.

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Speaker 4: Northern Neighbor Just to jump in here, Northern Neighbors. We

797
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 4: are also well aware of how this ties into what

798
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: is sometimes called the Sovereign Citizen movement. That is another

799
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 4: piece of the pie that we look forward to exploring.

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00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: So thanks again to everybody who wrote it.

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00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sorry. I just found another source from

802
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 3: the CBC that does have a little bit more information.

803
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: She was granted bail and that's an update. Actually, this

804
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: is just from yesterday, so though the original story was

805
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 3: from over the weekend.

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00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: Let's see, Oh gosh, okay, So.

807
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Speaker 3: Says here she did elect to go to the trial

808
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: by jury. This is a preliminary increase. She's scheduled to

809
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: appear in court on September the seventeenth. Says. A dozen

810
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: supporters in white hats showed up to greet Dedulo on

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Speaker 3: Monday morning as she returned to court in Swift Current, Saskatchewan,

812
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Speaker 3: for a bail hearing after spending the weekend in custody

813
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: for the team, secure the Royal puppies and the funds.

814
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: You know who to get a hold of. The Doulo said,

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 3: what secure the Royal puppies and the funds? Oh, you

816
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: know who to get a hold of. She then adds

817
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: in this they have no jurisdiction zero. Okay, let's follow

818
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: up on this, guys. This is fascinating stuff. This does

819
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 3: seem like it's gonna because I don't understand what the

820
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 3: charge is like. It seems like it was all in

821
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: the pretense of weapons charges, but then they only uncovered

822
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: these replicas. Doesn't even say what she was charged with.

823
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: It just says that she received bail. That's very interesting.

824
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: There's something missing here, y'all. Let's keep an eye on it.

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Speaker 3: That's all from me today.

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Speaker 4: And thus ends our weekly Strange News segment for this evening.

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