1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Ron and aniens what's the car Doctor like. One of 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: the things one has over the other guys on radio 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: is he's an a SE certified Master Tech and he's 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: still working on cars at his age. If you got 5 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: a problem, don't care what it is. If you need 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: a Hell, I'm not gonna show you sacking hill, I 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: got too strong longing. Hell, it was Shulmo the Car Doctor. 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm here to answer your questions. And that's what this 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: radio show is all about. Bottom line. Welcome to the 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 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Um, 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: this radio show, as you know, is is Saturday. We're 46 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: live Saturday afternoons to four pm Eastern time. And I 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: should point out also that THEO nine ero number leave 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: a message if we're not there, because we're live two 49 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: to four pm Eastern time. As I said, you can 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: leave a message fast. Harry, our executive producer, will call 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: you back and get you in the queue. I have 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: breakfast on Friday mornings with the group, you know, the mechanics, 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the guys, and you know, if you're from Jersey, it's 54 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: a Jersey I think it's a Jersey thing. Maybe it's 55 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: a New York thing too, but everybody New York, New Jersey. 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: We've always got a guy, all right. I've got a 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: guy I sit down with on breakfast on Friday that 58 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: he's got a guy. His guy is a big guy, 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: and in the sense that he's got a government position. 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: I won't say where he works in Washington. And the 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: subject came up recently about to repair and self driving cars, 62 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: and I have to tell you it, it kind of 63 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: tickled my funny bone a little bit, and not in 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: a good way. Supposedly, the the ambition of the government 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of this starts to make sense to me. Now, 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: the ambition of the government is sometime in the next 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: seven to eight years to have self driving cars on 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the road by overwhelming popularity. By that I mean approximately, 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: which is what they're telling us they'd like to do. 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: That's from my guy to his guy. The rationale for 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: this self driving cars is they're trying to take they're 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: trying to elimit an accidents. They're trying to take you 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: out from behind the wheel because you cause the accident, 74 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: you get emotional road rage, you're not thinking, you're texting, 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: you're not driving properly. And he proceeded to tell me 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: stories about it was demonstrated to him that you know, 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: as we go through on ramps and off ramps and 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: we all wait turns for cars and yield, all that's 79 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna be gone. They're expecting cars to just keep traffic 80 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: moving at thirty forty an hour, fifty miles an hour 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: as they they're smart enough to know who to bump into, her, 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: who not to bump into, and to keep traffic flowing. 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: And I said, no, it can't be. There's just there's 84 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: just no way that can happen. And the debate went 85 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: back and forth. Also, how they're expecting over a billion 86 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: dollar change in the economy. See it always comes back 87 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: to dollars. And they're expecting a billion dollar change in 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: the economy as there's less body shops because there'll be 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: less need. And here's the kicker. They've already got it 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: figured out that if they can get people to have 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: less accidents, and this is why they're pushing for self 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: driving cars or one of the reasons, less accidents, less lawsuits, 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: less insurance claims. So you've really got to wonder. And 94 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I can't say where my source works, but let's just 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: say he's pretty darn high up. And it really made 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: me scratch my head. And I thought I would ask 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 1: you this question, and I might talk to teaching everyone 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: of you this hour, next hour. How do you feel 99 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: about self driving cars? Would you own a self driving 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: car if you were forced to take one? And you 101 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: may be forced. It can be as simple as we're 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: not making parts for Toyota, four GM, Chrysler or whatever anymore. 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: And I said last night, thinking, Nah, can't be it. 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Just I just can't see it. You know, sometimes the 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: universe knows what I'm upset. I got a couple of emails, 106 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: and both of them sent me the same article, Farmers 107 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: fight for the right to repair their own tractors. This 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: came to us from Modern Farmer magazine. The article starts out, 109 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: you think that when something feels slightly off with a 110 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: six cylinder John deere s our tractor at five thirty 111 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: in the morning, one of the most qualified people to 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: perform a quick fix would be the same person who 113 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: operates that piece of expensive farm equipment on a daily basis. 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: After all, farmers have traditionally acted as the own mechanics. 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: And that makes sense, right the guys out in the 116 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: middle of the field five six o'clock in the morning, 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: he's trying to get his crops going. If if it's 118 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: an issue that can't be properly diagnosed to correctors, do 119 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: you look at us? Farmers must be from New Jersey. 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Many farmers have a guy who will get the job done. See, 121 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: everybody's got a guy. That's just the way it is. 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: In a previous era, a visit to the dealership was 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: viewed largely as a last resort here's the butt. But 124 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: since the year of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and 125 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: I look this up. This does exist. The d m 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: c A made the life of hard working farmers all 127 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: the more complicators. The owners of tractors, sprayers, harvesters, combines, loaders, billers, 128 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: and all sorts of other agricultural machinery have been legally 129 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: prohibited from embarking on their own repairs or enlisting independent 130 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: mechanisy get the job done. I want to know why. 131 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: Modern Farmer explained that. They said, the reason for this 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: is simple. Manufacturers of farming equipment, namely John Dear, do 133 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: not consider farmers to be the true owners of set equipment. Rather, 134 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: farmers have purchased an implied license for the life of 135 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle to operate the vehicle and essentially the article continues. 136 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: Due to digital copyright laws, they aim to protect the 137 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: intellectrical proper intellectual property of the sophisticated sophisticated software integrated 138 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: into modern farming machinery. What that means is what we've 139 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: been talking about here in the Car Doctor, where the 140 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: car companies are saying, you don't really buy the car anymore, 141 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: you're buying the right to operate the vehicle and it's software. 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we heard from our good friends, 143 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Steve Cook in Cincinnati are our senior instructor and report 144 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: at large out there, and Steve had called then talking 145 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: to us about how he attended a seminar recently, the 146 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: car companies are gonna go to a Bluetooth scan tool 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: technology to connect scan tools by Bluetooth, no more plug 148 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: in under the dash. And what that's going to do 149 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: is if you're not licensed, if your scan tool is 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: not licensed to operate that and work on that vehicle, 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: no he can work on it. Now, maybe you're not 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: so upset, you're not doing hardcore diagnosis. What if they 153 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: decide that the oil light reset is now part of 154 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: scan tool technology, So in order to change the oil 155 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: on the car, you're gonna have to be able to 156 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: connect to that car with a scan tool to reset 157 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: that idiot light. The implications are pretty far reaching. I 158 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: think they've got to go a stretch to pull it off. 159 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: But they've already done it with the farmers. How much 160 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: harder would it be for them to do it with 161 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: the car companies. It's just, you know what, I want 162 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: you to hear it from me. I want you to 163 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: be aware of it that it's on their agenda. They're 164 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: trying to take control of the cars. I said to 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: the boys before we started the show today, I said, 166 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't like it for a lot of reasons. My 167 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: biggest is I get behind the wheel of a car. 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I want to drive the car. Now, watch Tesla in 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the coming years. Because it was it was told to 170 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: me by more than one source. Tesla has been given 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: quite a bit of a green light, and it's kind 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: of explains why the media tries to always put Tesla 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: in a favorable position. From what I see. Yeah, they've 174 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: had their mistakes, but they they always try to, you know, 175 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: make it sound like it's a good thing, and I'm 176 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: not saying it isn't. Because Tesla, the government says, is 177 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: really close to perfecting their software. They're about two years away, 178 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: and once they do, you're gonna see more self driving 179 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: cars come out and less chance to repair the one 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: that you currently own. Boy, I can't imagine it's coming. 181 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: But nobody would ever told me they couldn't fix a 182 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: farm tractor in the middle of a cornfield at five 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: in the morning either. Hello and welcome Ronanandy in the 184 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: Car Doctor at zero nine, zero zero. When you call 185 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: in today, get ready for the question self driving cars, 186 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: Yes or no, I need an answer I needed in 187 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: about thirty seconds from you, because we're gonna move the 188 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: show along. Just something to be aware of. A lot 189 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: going on in the next two hours. We're gonna talk 190 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: a little bit about the repair of the week next hour, 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: about how Ford took a simple airbag repair operation from 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: already fault codes and gave each fault code a sub 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: index of anywhere from eighteen to thirty two fault codes, 194 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: meaning now there are over four hundred possible fault codes 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: for an air big system on your average forward product, 196 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: making the repair process that much more complicated. We're gonna 197 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: talk about that next hour. We're gonna be giving away 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: a Wicks die cast car this hour. Has anybody seen 199 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: the die cast car? Tony? You didn't take it? Digit 200 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: Tony doesn't have a Tom, has it? Tom? Stop playing 201 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: with the thirty nine four the die cast car. Yeah, 202 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: it's no, Harry is not. Harry's not playing with the car. 203 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: The last time he played with it, he broke it, 204 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: so he can't do that. And we're gonna talk a 205 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: little bit about calamitous failure, a little bit about low 206 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: tension oil rings and how to avoid that and some 207 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: of the issues that come about with some of the 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: modern cars and the technology that's incorporated into them, and 209 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: what that's all about. But I am here to take 210 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: your calls at zero nine nine zero zero. Will return 211 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: right after this to kick the garage doors open. Stay 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: tuned that no place to go were the morning and nothing. 213 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back the Car Doctor rolling along at zero nine 214 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: zero zero the Car Doctor seven phone number. Give us 215 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: a call for not on the air. Leave a message fast. 216 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: Harry or executive producer will call you back. Let's get 217 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: over and talk to Frank as we kicked the garage 218 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: doors open this hour today Staten Island, New York with 219 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: a two thousand nine Honda c RV. Frank, Welcome to 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Thank you? 221 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for thinking my call. Yes. A couple of 222 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: months ago, I started noticing on the on the console 223 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: a notice check my guess cap. So I researched itness 224 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: as well. Sometimes it's not on properly. I took it 225 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: off and let it go go. A couple of cycles, 226 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the message kept coming up. I even asked the the 227 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: dealer when I brought it in for service, to take 228 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: a look at this, didn't see anything wrong with it. 229 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: It's still kept happening. I ultimately replaced the cat. It's 230 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: still happening, and I'm not sure what the next step is. Okay, 231 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: the gas cap light on that particular car, on a 232 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of cars, is really the first stage of failure 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: in a n EVAP system. Um. Part of the problem 234 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: is you're you're in the You're in the marketing department's loop. Frank, 235 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you're not in anybody's loop to really repair the car. 236 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, the marketing department sat there. At car companies Honda, 237 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: GM does it, Ford does it that will? They don't 238 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: like people to see check engine lights on because it 239 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: makes you feel like the car has broken all the time. 240 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: So sometimes when a gas attendant leaves the cap loose, 241 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: instead of turning on the check engine light, they're gonna 242 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: turn on the check gas cap light. And the rationale 243 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: is that you'll get out, turn the cap and within 244 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: a short cycle, a shorter cycle than order it takes 245 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: to reset the check engine light, that gas cap circuit 246 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: will be checked and turn off the check gas cap light. 247 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't always work like that. What's what's very common on 248 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: the Hondas is either the purge control or the canister 249 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: vent valve are not working properly and they tend to stick. 250 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: They'll act up. They'll create a low level leak which 251 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: comes across as a gas cap failure, and then it 252 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: will turn into a check engine light with typically a 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: P zero four fifty five uh you know, or a 254 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: P zero um uhour nine seven perch flow something like that. 255 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: What what someone really should do if the light is 256 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: on right now? Is the light still on? No? The 257 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: last time with gas I was waiting for it to 258 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: come on and it hasn't happened yet so far about 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: the leak is so without the coming on the next 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: time it comes on, someone should scan this for codes. 261 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: Has anybody done that yet? Are there any fauld codes 262 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: in this car? Well? Uh no, I don't see any. 263 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean when it comes on, I just pressed the 264 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: button to get forget forget forget the light. The next time, 265 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: the next time the check gas cap light comes on, 266 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: have someone run and test for pending full codes and 267 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: those are codes that are about to set and turn 268 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: into a check engine light, because that's what it'll do. 269 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: It'll set a pending fall. It's like you when you 270 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: get sick all right, if you start to get the 271 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: sniffles on Monday, what is it Tuesday or Wednesday before 272 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you start sneezing, and Thursday before you get the headache 273 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: and the flu. Right, it takes you a while. There's 274 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: there's pending faults that have to occur. Car does the 275 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: same thing. The only difference now is instead of waiting 276 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: for it to become a check engine light and a 277 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: hard code failure, now whenever they detect even the slightest 278 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: bit of an issue, they illuminate what they call a 279 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: check engine a check gas cap light. I'm sorry, I 280 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: check gas cap light. And that gets you looking at 281 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: maybe it's a gas cap. Maybe it's not the car 282 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: that's always breaking. They're they're trying to shift the mindset 283 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: away from the car is broken to maybe the gas 284 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: cap is loose because the attendant didn't put it on properly. 285 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: And sometimes it is, but a lot of times it's not. 286 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: And that's your situation. So now a die gnosis has 287 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: to be begin. So the best that he is to 288 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: have them look for some sort of VAP system checkers. 289 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I would, I would at least if you're getting a 290 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: continuous gas cap fault error message. I would at least 291 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: run a code scan expecting to find evaporative emission fault 292 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: codes impending are about to happen, and take a look 293 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: at that. If you see no fault codes and you 294 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: want to get into a deeper which I would encourage 295 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: you to, I would find somebody that can read mode 296 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: six diagnostics. In other words, look at the machine language 297 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: inside the scan tool behind the scene, look at the 298 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: mode six tests. They're gonna show you a marginal situation. 299 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: At least then you'll know what's failing and have a 300 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: direction to go. Look whether it's vent purge and so on. 301 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: But there's a fault there, there's a problem here. The 302 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: reason the dealer told you there's nothing wrong. I guarantee 303 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: that nobody plugged the scan tooling. Okay, all right. And 304 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: the reason they didn't plug a scan tooling is because 305 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: you didn't say, go ahead, I'll pay you to plug 306 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: a scan tool on. Unfortunately, that's the first step in 307 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: the diagnosis. Okay, thanks for your help driving. You're welcome, Frank. 308 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: If you need more, you know where to find it. 309 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Take good care. Let's get over and talk to Frank 310 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: also Congress New York. Frank, how are you sir? What's 311 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: going on? Hey guys, how are you doing? Great? Great? Um, 312 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: A couple of things. Uh, that's exactly a good point. 313 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, if they plug it in, they want their payments. 314 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: Same thing. Talking about self driving cars. When I get 315 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: in the car, I'm gonna hold that stand will well, 316 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive that car. Would you be in control? 317 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Would you trust a self driving car? Frank excuse me? 318 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: Would you trust a self driving car? No? Not at all. 319 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. What are you gonna do? What 320 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: are they gonna do if they tell you you can't 321 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: get parts for your car anymore, and you've got to 322 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: take one, Okay, I'll pull one out of the back 323 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: of the house. But another point here with the weapon. Listen, 324 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: I got I got the gifts, I got the card. 325 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, you guys. Great. I'm wearing a shirt. 326 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Saturday's car doctor Day. My wife goes who is maybe 327 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: one day? But anyway, Um, we got the extreme heat. 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: What can we tell the people? What do we got 329 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: to look for on today about cars? What are some 330 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: of the signs? What should be done? Maybe explain to 331 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: people so they don't break down on the road, and 332 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: we get trapped and so forth. Great question, I think. 333 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I think the first thing people need to do is 334 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: before they start out anywhere over the course of the 335 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: next three or four days. And you know this is 336 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: most of the country is under a heat dome, as 337 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: they say now, and we're all faced with some really 338 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: oppressive heat for the next four or five days. And 339 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: I think one of the first things you want to 340 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: do is when you get in the car, look at 341 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: the upper left corner of the windshielded. You've got an 342 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: oil changed sticker there. When was it changed? List is 343 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: it overdue? I would say that as I get into 344 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: new customers vehicles during the course of the week, I'm 345 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: going to tell you that over seventy of the time 346 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: those oil change stickers are way overdue, and oil is 347 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: very critical to keeping that car happy, especially in hot 348 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: weather like we're experiencing. One of the cautions I want 349 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: to point out is that if the car does get stuck, 350 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: if the car does overheat, don't be try to be 351 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: a hero. Don't get out pop the hood when their steam, 352 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: or don't get out and pop the hood when the 353 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: car is overheating until you've waited at least twenty to 354 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: thirty minutes somewhere safe off the side of the road. 355 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Don't stand outside the car and wait before you pop 356 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: that hood, because a radiator hose in this temperature and 357 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: heat can burst, causing some really serious damage. Frank, I 358 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the call, in the conversation and the concern. My 359 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: best to you and yours. I'm running any in the 360 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: car doctor. We are back right after this. Don't go away. 361 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back right in the car doctor. Eight by five 362 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: by six zero zero zero the car phone number that's zero. 363 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Give us a call, leave a message. If we're not 364 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: on the air. We're here Saturday afternoons live two to 365 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: four pm Eastern Time, and fast. Harry, our producer, will 366 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: call you back and put you in the line up 367 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: for the next live broadcast. Let's get over to line one. 368 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: Talk to Jerome at of Avon Park and two thousand 369 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: eleven Toyota camera. Jerome. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 370 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh, good afternoon, Yes, sir, I 371 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: have of course, I've got the camera and it's got 372 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: nine miles on it. And my question is when do 373 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: I change the transmission fluid? Because there's not much in 374 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: the manual that tells me when it should be done. Experience, well, 375 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: real world experience. And I've only I've only been repairing 376 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: cars for forty three years, so I'm kind of trying 377 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: to decide what I want to be when I grow up, 378 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: and and based on that, I'm going to tell you 379 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: what we see in the shop real world. What I 380 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: also see the dealers around us doing real world is 381 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: that is Toyota WUS fluid World Class World spec fluid 382 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: they call it, and that fluid typically typically gets changed 383 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: in the fifty to sixty thousand mile range. Now, I 384 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 1: know some people that say, oh, no, it's lifetime fluid. 385 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: That's what Toyota rates it for. Yeah, that's right, it's 386 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: lifetime fluid until the trans blows up and then that's 387 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: it's lifetime and then you have to put a new 388 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: trans in the car. You know. I don't think there's 389 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: any situation in a vehicle today that any fluid can 390 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: truly be considered lifetime other than window washer fluid as 391 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: long as you don't use it. So that being said, 392 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: I would tell you it should have been done in 393 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: the fifty to sixty thousand mile percentile you're at ninety. 394 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: I would tell you to do it now. If you're 395 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: planning to keep the car, it's most likely going to 396 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: be in no dipstick transmission, meaning the shop has to 397 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: do it through a manufacturer specific procedure with regard to 398 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: how hot, how hard trans temp is. There's a concern 399 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: about that fluid temperature in order to get an accurate reading. 400 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: But um by all means get it changed. It's just normal. 401 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things I run into all 402 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: day long is marketing departments. A marketing department wants you 403 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: to buy a car. They're not there to help tell 404 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: you take care of a car. And the fact is 405 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: that most marketing departments today it's it's all about sales. 406 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: It's all about, you know, selling product and not admitting 407 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: they had a problem. About two years ago, we had 408 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: a call from a listener in Connecticut. I never forgot this, 409 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: and they were having a problem with their Honda and 410 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: a thermostat and temperature engine temperature coming up, and we 411 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: were talking about it. Do you know I got a 412 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: phone call from American Honda and Torrens, California that they 413 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: didn't like the fact that we were talking bad about Honda. 414 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: Somebody was listening to the show, and they didn't like 415 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: the Honda doesn't make mistakes and it's it's it's an 416 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: impact on their marketing. I was stunned by that that 417 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: they take that kind of an attitude. You know, I 418 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: know cars are getting better Jerome, and I know that 419 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that they don't need that 420 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: they once did. But regular fluids, filters where possible, regular maintenance, 421 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: common sense is still the order of the day. So 422 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I would tell you at this mileage, it's changed the 423 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: trans fluid you're coolant. Have you ever put coolings in 424 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: this car? Ever changed it? Oh? Yeah, it's been changed, right, 425 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: And and the funny thing is that's five year, hundred 426 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: and five thousand mile con So what possessed them to 427 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: change that and not the trans fluid? Doesn't make any 428 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: sense and it's great that they changed it. I have 429 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: no problem changing something a little early. I have no 430 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: problem at all whatsoever. The rule is how I live. 431 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: You know, most of my day that I look at 432 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: and say, if it's if, it's got to go, and 433 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: now's a good time to start thinking about it. But 434 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: you know, trans fluid cooling is done. Have you ever 435 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: change break fluid in this car? Okay, time time to 436 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: change break fluid. They haven't. They haven't. Nobody really talks 437 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: about that, but the majority of cars, all the European 438 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: cars as a matter of fact, talk about break fluid 439 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: flushes in most cases every two years because of the 440 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: fact that break fluid absorbs moisture and that moisture displaces 441 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: the hydraulic effect that break can have in terms of 442 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: making them work effectively. So it should flush the break fluid, 443 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: and it's never too late. Start a regular series every 444 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: eighteen months, every twenty four months of a fuel injection cleaning, 445 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: top end fuel injection cleaning, carbon cleaning. However you want 446 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: to call it. One of the issues plaguing today's engines, 447 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: and I believe your Toyota is in that mix, is 448 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: the issue with low tension piston rings. They use a 449 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: low tension piston ring on a lot of engines today 450 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: in order to increase fuel economy, and what ends up 451 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: happening is carbon deposits from gasoline still form caused the 452 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: rings to start, aren't to stick, and then they've extended 453 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the oil change interval to these ridiculous amounts. In my opinion, 454 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: based on what I see in the shop and those 455 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: people become prime candidates for royal consumption. And at that 456 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: point it's over. It's time to either rebuild the engine 457 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: or replace the vehicle. Just some normal maintenance on what 458 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna need at ninety miles. All right, sir, very interesting, 459 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You're very welcome, sir. Good luck 460 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: to you and yours and you give us a calling. 461 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: Anything else, Let's go and talk to Paul out in Chesapeake, Virginia. 462 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: Some questions about gasolene. Paul, welcome to the card officer. Yeah, 463 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: thank you Ron for taking my question. Welcome to Two 464 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago, i was talking with some associates of mine 465 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: and we were talking about gaselene. I've got a gmcc 466 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: era and uh I burned premium gasolene and it's the 467 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: whole time. And I said, you guys want to try that? 468 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: And they informed me that Ford said is that they 469 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: can only run eight seven octane gasoline and only that gasolene. 470 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why do they have that in writing. 471 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: They say it's in the manual. All of have you 472 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: seen it? No? I haven't seen it myself. I I like, 473 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: I said, I checked my GM manual and it says 474 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: burned regular unlett it's gasoline eight seven octane or higher. 475 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: But they and they said they were told by dealers. Also, 476 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: that's all right, baby, you know is that the is 477 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: that the dealer, is that the dealer that's selling them 478 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: the car, Paul, is that the dealer. Is that the 479 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: dealer that's selling them the car the dog likes the car? Doctor, 480 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: What can I say, is that the dealer that's selling 481 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: them the car that doesn't want to talk about increased costs. 482 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: Of course he's gonna tell them to run cheaper gasoline. 483 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: And it listen, it's it comes back to a little 484 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: bit of common sense once again. You know. Part of 485 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the country is common senses and a 486 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: common anymore. And we say that every day seven octane 487 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: is a good base point. But the fact is, for 488 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: the next year or two, until E p A has 489 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: their way and eliminates detergents from gasoline, you're going to 490 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: see a benefit from using a higher octane fuel because 491 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: of the detergent editors that are in them. Certain gasolines 492 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: like bp BP has some great detergent editors in it 493 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: that really do make a difference over the life of 494 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the vehicle. Let me ask you a question. You're running, 495 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: you've been running high testing your ninety nine. What sort 496 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: of major repairs have you had any any oil consumption issues? 497 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: No oil consumption and the tail pipe is and and 498 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: what sort of oil change interivals? Even running uh three 499 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: thousand miles because I've used conventional oil, so so my, 500 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, God forbid, you've been using and doing what maintenance? 501 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: And you've got two d ten thousand miles out of 502 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: the car. You know, that's almost non American. I don't 503 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: think you're supposed to do that anymore. I think it's 504 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: supposed to throw the car away at a hund thousand 505 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: miles and say it's a piece of junk, there's nothing 506 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: more to do with it, and just go buy another car. 507 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: You're not supporting the economy. Well that that's what I 508 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: was wondering. Whether they were trying to pull the wool 509 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: over their eyes. But I wasn't sure, you know, I 510 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I I think they are, and I think that, you know, 511 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: the better grade of gasoline is a benefit, at least 512 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: for the time being. Hey, Paul, before I let you 513 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: go self driving cars, would you own one? Uh? No? 514 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: Why not? I like I like driving it myself. And 515 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if in eight years? What 516 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: are you gonna do it? In eight years? They just 517 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: don't make parts for that GMC anymore, and you can't, 518 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: you can't fix it. I'm gonna cry. And you know 519 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: it's it's uh. You know what's said is the self 520 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: driving car. It takes away some of the civil liberties 521 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: that the kids today will never realize what they're losing 522 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: the ability to just get in a car and go 523 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: where they want without anybody tracking where they are. And um, 524 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a heck of an eight years 525 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: if it really happens. Paul I enjoyed the conversation. My 526 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: best to you and yours. You have a good rest 527 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: of the after noon, sir, save here on. Thank you 528 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: very much. You're very welcome, Good luck, take good care. 529 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I'll ring any of the car doctor eight five five 530 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero, the car Doctor seven number. 531 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. Don't go away. Get 532 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: she's real, find my fore nighte, she's real, find my 533 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: phone night my fon. Hey, welcome back. We're on ending 534 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: the car Doctor rolling along at eight five five zero 535 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Over the days of a Chevy 536 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: four O nine. Boy, did we ever make cars like that? 537 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: You just look at it and you wonder, imagine having 538 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: a self driving Chevy four O nine. I want you 539 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: to that might be an advantage to self drive having 540 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: cars I haven't thought of if you had a self 541 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: driving what have you had a self driving Corvette and 542 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: like you could sell pre programmed driving characteristics that would 543 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: make acceleration legal. That's another point. If they had self 544 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: driving cars, what are they gonna do with all the 545 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: revenue that's not going to exist now from speeding tickets 546 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: and drunk driving. Not that I'm for drunk driving, but 547 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, you start to think about the loss of 548 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: revenue on one side versus the other. I just I 549 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: just don't see it working. It's just kind of crazy. 550 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: But you know, you gotta look at the farm tractors, right. 551 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: We read the story about the farm tractors a little 552 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: bit ago about how you can't fix a farm tractor 553 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: now because you're not licensed to work on it and 554 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: the software locks you out. So I guess what cars 555 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: are going to be the same way. Let's go and 556 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: talk to Maria Maria's at Maria Maria in Michigan. I'm 557 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: sorry half Ton with some oil pressure problems. Marie. Welcome 558 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Well, thank 559 00:29:51,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: you for taking my call on the engine sizes four 560 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: point two. And we bought it in a state sale. 561 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: And about a year or so after, my grandson was 562 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: driving in an oil pressure dropped reeled down where showing 563 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: the oil pressure. So he had some guy he knew 564 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: a mechanic and put in a new oil pressure well. 565 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: That worked for a few months, and then they started 566 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: blowing the oil filter rubber. You know, all the oil 567 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: would gush out the oil filter. Okay. I called the 568 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: Ford garage here and they said they never heard of it. 569 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: So well, it's it sounds like the relief valve inside 570 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: the engine and the pump um is stuck, and it's not. 571 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: It's building such high oil pressure it can't push the 572 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: valve open to relieve it. That's why it's blowing it 573 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: out around the O ring of the oil filter itself. 574 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: How long did this How long was this truck sitting 575 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: when you got it out of the estate sail? Any idea? Oh, 576 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know about it. Maybe a few bunds, I 577 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, anyway, we had a mechanic fixed it 578 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: and he said it needed uh uh intake manifolds, and 579 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: he put that in there and it seemed to work. 580 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: It didn't blow the oil out. Well. Then of a 581 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: few weeks later at the oil pressure went down again 582 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: and my husband left it at our son's house and 583 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: he took it to have a diagnosed. And them guys 584 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: told us that that engine was real bad, that they 585 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: only made it for a year or so and it 586 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: wasn't worth fixing. And what I wanted to know if 587 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: it was worth fixing or not, because you, first of all, 588 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: they made that engine for the better part of five years, 589 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: did they. Yeah, it's it's not that terrible of an engine. 590 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: It it didn't. It wasn't real well for lack of maintenance. 591 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: If it wasn't maintained well, it didn't stand abuse um greatly. 592 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: Not that any engine does, but that was one of 593 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: the weaker characteristics of that engine. My first question is 594 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: are my first comment is somebody needs a diagnosis. And 595 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the first thing I would do is take the oil 596 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: pressure center out screwing a mechanical gauge and see what 597 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: the true mechanical oil pressure is and make a decision 598 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: from there. If this has sat for any length of 599 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: time and there's some unknowns here, we could have a 600 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: problem in the oil pump, we could have a restricted 601 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: or clogged oil pump screen, we could have problems inside 602 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: the engine. But you know, listen, what it really comes 603 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: down to is how bad do you need the truck? 604 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: If if replacing the engine for conversation's sake is three 605 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, but replacing the truck is fifteen thousand to 606 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: twenty thou use thirty thousand for something new. I say, 607 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: replaced the engine if the body isn't good enough condition, 608 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: and at least then you've got a simpler vehicle to 609 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: deal with. And it's it's a matter of economics at 610 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: that stage. So but you know, first thing I would 611 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: want someone to do here absolutely a screw mechanical gauge 612 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: in see what mechanical oil pressure is. That engine should 613 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: develop forty pounds of pressure at around PM. Keep in 614 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: mind that that gauge on the dashboard is really useless 615 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: in a sense because it'll read mid scale when the 616 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: engine has a little bit more than six pounds six 617 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: p s I and as soon as it drops below 618 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: six p s I the gauge goes to zero, so 619 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: it had the accuracy of not much all right, so 620 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: um uh, you know I would tell you don't count 621 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: on the dashboard gauge. Trust a mechanical gauge. As far 622 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: as um what I want to make sure is working 623 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: here for whale pressure. Do that test and then give 624 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: me a call back Marie and we can kind of 625 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: talk and go from there. Zero the car doctor is 626 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: coming back. Don't go away round round, get around, I 627 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: get around, get around. Und welcome back of the car doctor. 628 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: Glad to have been with you this hour. If you 629 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: need any questions answered now or until the next hour. 630 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: There's another hour card doctor and coming up after the 631 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: news at the top of the hour, and most of 632 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: these affiliates you can give us a qual at eight 633 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine zero zero. I just 634 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: want to look back a little bit where we just were, 635 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, for Marie who called him from Michigan with 636 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: the oil pressure problem on her four truck the one 637 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: and fifty uh some comments one last comment and thought, 638 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: there's the value there, makes the argument and the value 639 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: in using a good motor oil. Right. We talked about 640 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: changing weil on a regular basis. We talked about using 641 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: a good oil, like the stuff from the folks at 642 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: Penns Oil more information at Pen's Oil, Pen's Oil Synthetics 643 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: dot Com. And we always make a case about how 644 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Pen's oil is one of those oils that helps clean 645 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: the inside of an engine, prevents oil pressure problems, perhaps 646 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: in a case like Marie's where if the engine was 647 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: scrubbed clean, she wouldn't have sticky, sticky um relief spring 648 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: on the oil pump or a clog screen. I was 649 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: just thinking about that during the pause for the cause. 650 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: And one last thought too. We talked a little bit 651 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: about low tension oil rings this hour in terms of 652 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: cars not getting maintenance, oil rings sticking, compression rings, sticking, 653 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: piston rings in general sticking, and it kind of came back. 654 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: I thought the best call this hour was the gentleman 655 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: with the ninety nine GMC. You had two ten miles 656 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,479 Speaker 1: on us car, did regular oil changes, did regular fuel 657 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: system cleaning and maintenance, and ain't any major problems with 658 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: the car, And g was how could that possibly be? 659 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: I Um, I look at ance and say, that's gotta 660 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: be the key. I'm running any in the car doctor 661 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: until the next time Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 662 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: See you