1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Right now, they are going through stretch where things are 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: not okay. Will they be okay like down the road? Yeah? Maybe, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: but they need some things to happen. 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: First sixteen plus years former MLBGM Jim Bowden joining us 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: right now on ft JB. You've got all three of 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: us here in Vegas, caffeinated, I think, and fired up. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: So let's hit some recent articles that you've put out 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: there and I'll let you go. You want to go 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: National League or American League first, dealer's choice. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: Let's go American League first? 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Okay, American League, And I would like to start with 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays. You came out with an article 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: in The Athletic on one difference making trade for each 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: American League team in the wildcard race. Blue Jays have 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: another strong weekend against the Red Sox. They've been rolling 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: for a while now, and it's a team that you 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: would think is pushing their chips in which is also 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 2: playing in a weaker American league than we usually see. 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: So what's your plan for them? 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I had them trading for Merrill Kelly. Why 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: did I have that? Well, when I. 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 5: Talked to the Blue Jays, they say their biggest need 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 5: is going to be a starting pitcher at the deadline. 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: That's what their goal is. 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 5: And so I kind of look at Arizona and even 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 5: though right now they say they're buying and they're trying 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: to buy pitching, I just have a hard time believing 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 5: that's where Arizona is going to end up in thirty 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 5: one days. Why because I don't think this is a 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 5: playoff team because of the injuries that they've had. And 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 5: I believe that running that organization, knowing that Zach Allen, Merrill, 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,279 Speaker 5: Kelly Josh Naylor and your Henneosrez are all free agents 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 5: at the end of the year, this is a seller's 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: market at the trade deadline. Why in the world wouldn't 35 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 5: you be shopping those four players, try to get ten 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 5: to twelve players in return, and then try to resign 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 5: whoever you want to in the off season. And you know, 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: I spent the last five days being in contact with 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 5: all the gms and presidents of all thirty teams because 40 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 5: I'm writing an article for The Athletic that's either going 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 5: up tomorrow or the next day, kind of on an 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 5: anonymous poll of who is going to get traded between 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 5: now and the trade down, Who did they think, because 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: last year when I did this, we nailed it right. 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 5: And coming from them, they're talking to the clubs. They 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 5: couldn't mention their own players, they could only mention other 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 5: teams players. I thought it was fascinating and it was interesting. 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 5: In terms of Merrill Kelly, his name is mentioned quite 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 5: a bit, and I think there's a lot of executives 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: that believe that when Arizona gets to the end of 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 5: the month, they will be dealing him. And so the 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: fact that that's the blue Jay's biggest need, and the 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 5: fact that I think Arizona probably is going to move 54 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: one or two of those starters, I think it makes sense. 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 6: Hi, Jamie, the next trade you said is a possibility, 56 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 6: less about the team that's getting him, and more about 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 6: Kyle stours Kus. Stowers doesn't even have two years of service. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: Is it really possible that he is that much somebody 59 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: that the Marlins are looking to move, like they're that 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: far out from ever even trying to contend or compete. 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's a matter of that. I 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 5: think it's a matter of what Peter Bendex is trying 63 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 5: to do, and he is trying to collect as much 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 5: young talent as he can for the long haul. They're 65 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: playing really well. They won seven in a row, they 66 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 5: had a tremendous road trip. They're feeling good about themselves. 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: But if someone's going to overvalue Stours and that left 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: handed power that he has and he can win a trade, 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: he'll do it. You know, it's interesting in talking to 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: and texting with all the gms and managers, how many 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 5: people think al Contra is actually going to get traded 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: and that Cabrera could get moved and Stowars could get moved. 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: It's because they're having conversations with Miami. That's why those 74 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: names keep coming up. And although I don't think al 75 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: Contra's value right now is what it should be to 76 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: move them, maybe someone's going to pay that price. And 77 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 5: for Stowars, there's just enough teams the Kansas City Royals, 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: the San Diego Padres that are looking for that you know, 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: left handed power bat that they can put on. The 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 5: Corner Guardians another team that is looking for that power. 81 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: And so there are teams that might overpay to get 82 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: Stours because he is controllable and he isn't expensive, and 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 5: they might pay a price that Peter Bendex likes when 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 5: you look at the history of the trades he's made, 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: you know, he's made a lot of trades. He traded 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: to Jesus Lizardo, who he was still controlling for a 87 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 5: couple of years because of the prospect attorney got from Philadelphia. 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: So it's kind of where Miami is. 89 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 5: And it's more importantly, Peter Bendex came from Tampa Bay 90 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: and he wants to trade for those young guys. He 91 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 5: doesn't care if they're an A ball or double A. 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 5: He wants to stockpile as much as he can to 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 5: win in the long term, and that's what he's doing. 94 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 7: All right. 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 8: I got a couple questions for on this is. First 96 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 8: of all, you mentioned the race Hunter Goodman. The Rockies 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 8: aren't trading him. He's there one bright spot on this 98 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 8: whole season of not very bright spots, and tadj Bradley 99 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 8: and Theogillian. 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 9: If you're TODG. 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 8: Browdley, you're like, please don't send me there, keep me 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 8: in Tampa, right. 103 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 9: So I would say that one is questionable, But then 104 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 9: the big one for me is number four. 105 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 8: Acquire Luis Robert Junior from the White Sox to the 106 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 8: Guardians First of all, Jerry Reinserfer said he won't trade 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 8: in the division, which we've seen in. 108 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 9: Louis Robert right now has no value. He's on the 109 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 9: il and he's been terrible when he's played. 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 8: Why would the White Sox even look to trade him 111 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 8: because they're not going to get anything in return. 112 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to trade him if his value 113 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: is nothing. 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 5: They're only going to trade him if someone's going to 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 5: believe what he did a couple of years ago when 116 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: he hit the thirty eight homers and stole twenty bags. 117 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: They're only going to trade him if they can get 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: value back. If they can't get a top ten prospect 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: for him, the hold onto him and they're waiting until 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 5: he gets healthy, maybe he finishes the year strong and 121 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: then move him then. 122 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: But this is a seller's market. 123 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: There's not a lot of bats that are out there 124 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: on this marketplace right now. So if they get the offer, 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: they'll do it now. In terms of Hunter Goodman, you know, 126 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: Tampa Bay has made it very clear they're trying to 127 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 5: get a long term answer a catcher. They haven't been 128 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 5: able to do it, and you know they do match 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 5: up with Hunter Goodman is not a great defensive catcher, 130 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: but he is a really good offensive catcher. If Colorado 131 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: gets some pitching back, he gets a young stud outfielder 132 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 5: and someone wants to overpay. Why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't 133 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: you trade your only all star? And then you know 134 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: Kansas City Royals, they've got three really good catching prospects, 135 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 5: Carter Jensen who just got promoted, Blake Mitchell. You know, 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: perhaps they match up. I don't see how they match 137 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 5: up as well as possibly Colorado. You know, for the 138 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 5: Rockies to get pitching, you got to trade for to 139 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 5: draft it. Right, You're not going to sign him in 140 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 5: free free agency. We've watched the same rotation finished in 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 5: the last place for five straight years, at least three 142 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: of them. How many more years are we going to 143 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: watch the same pitchers before they start finding a way 144 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 5: to trade for different arms? 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That's our exclusive link Harrys dot com slash 171 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: foul for a six dollars trial set. 172 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 6: I know we're in a different age of being able 173 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: to see so many different minor league players and all 174 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 6: this stuff and evaluations have changed. Do teams still pump 175 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 6: up prospects falsely and hide guys? Did they used to 176 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: do when you were when you were a GM? 177 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: Yet? 178 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: I would say for the first half of my GM 179 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: career there were teams that still did it. But I mean, like, 180 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 5: come on, let's all be sensible. I mean, everybody has 181 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: their scouts and eyeballs on these guys. Everybody has analytics, 182 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: everybody has the science. Now, you know, we're not guessing 183 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 5: first step quickness or we're not guessing angle. You know, 184 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 5: we know we know those we know arm strength, we 185 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: know bat speed. We're not guessing bat speed. You know 186 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 5: we're not guessing that. You know, Junior Cameron Era is 187 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: Gary Sheffield bat speed. All we got to do is 188 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: look at baseball savan and it shows it to us. 189 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, there's no guessing. I mean, I think the 190 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 5: one part where you try to do a little deception 191 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: even today is the mental part of it. Right, Like 192 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 5: you win with players as human beings. You don't win 193 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 5: with the baseball player. You win with the human And 194 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: so there are a lot of very talented players that 195 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 5: maybe don't have that competitiveness or they don't have the 196 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 5: makeup and character to win, but they have the tools 197 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: that are all star tools. And so if you have 198 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 5: a player like that in your organization, and as an example, 199 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 5: the Rockies have some guys like that, I'm not going 200 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 5: to mention you know, you may want to really prop 201 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 5: the guy up because he may have the stats and 202 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: the tools, and if that team hasn't done their homework 203 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 5: on what the player and the human being he really is, 204 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: perhaps you can make. 205 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: A good deal that way. 206 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: So I think if there's one way of propping up 207 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 5: or propping down, it would be on the human element. 208 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 6: But that was gonna be so you led right into 209 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: what I was going to ask. How do some. 210 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 9: Teams just keep missing them? 211 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 6: How does because we all have the same information, everybody 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 6: has the same information. You see dudes that just do 213 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 6: not hit the ball in the air. I get it, 214 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 6: you know, like a justin Craft, he's got an elite skill, 215 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 6: he's still not elevating the balls. But how do teams 216 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 6: miss consistently more than other teams? 217 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the world, right, I mean, I could parallel 218 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 5: to politics, I could parallel to running organizations. Everybody has 219 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: different lenses, you know. I can tell you if I 220 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: had thirty six scouts. Out of thirty six, I would 221 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: tell you I probably had four or five that I 222 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 5: could really trust. And it's not that the other thirty 223 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: one weren't extremely talented and knew what they were watching, 224 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 5: but perhaps they didn't really understand what kind of makeup 225 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: and character Michael Mustakis had, or Brett Boonton had or 226 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 5: aj Prazinski had, right like, not everybody can really understand that. 227 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 5: You know, people can think makeup and character is you know, 228 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 5: a really nice guy and went to the right schools 229 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: and says the right things and is very polite and 230 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: opens the door. But that's not necess necessarily the best 231 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 5: baseball makeup, right I'll take Roger Clemens, I'll take Barry Bonds, 232 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 5: you know. So you know, at the end of the day, 233 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 5: it's you know, not everybody can process the information and 234 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: see it the same. 235 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: And it's same with teams. Some teams just get it. 236 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: Eric Neander, Andrew Friedman, you know, theo Epstein. You know, 237 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: I can go on Alexander Thalp. There's just a lot 238 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 5: of guys that get it, not just no players, not 239 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 5: just look at the information, not just study analytics, not 240 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 5: understanding the swing or the delivery, but they understand human 241 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: beings and makeup and character and what motivates them and 242 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: what doesn't motivate them. You know, it's funny as I 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: saw Jeremy Paine, you go on the injured list today, 244 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 5: which is very disappointing with the cracked REB and a 245 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: big setback for Houston. But you know, I was watching 246 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: his season this year. He had a five two war 247 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 5: according to stats, which is the second best in the Majors, 248 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: and he's one of the top three short stops in 249 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 5: the league with Bobby Wood Junior and Jacob Wilson. But 250 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 5: it was funny because it was spring training with Joe A. 251 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 5: Spot of the manager and Dana Brown. The GM told 252 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 5: me Payne is gonna have his best year. He's gonna 253 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 5: have a breakout All Star year. And I asked them why, 254 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 5: and they told me because he's in the best mental 255 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 5: space he's ever been in in his personal life and 256 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: in his approach and his preparation. It's a different guy. 257 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 5: They said, watch. I'm like, I'll watch, and I saw 258 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 5: exactly that. That's the human element. That's what people that 259 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: have good judgment understand. You know, Hunter Brown struggled when 260 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: he first came up, right, he has some maturity to do, 261 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 5: He has some understanding to do. But you could tell 262 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: even talking to him when he struggled. You could tell 263 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 5: as I sat there in spring training a couple of 264 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: years ago listening to him. I left spring training go, 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 5: I'm betting on that guy. Not just because of the stuff. 266 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: We can all measure the stuff and see it, but 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: I was how bad he wanted it. I knew he 268 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: was going to adjust and become an ace, and that's 269 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: what he's become. 270 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 8: Okay, this is why team's missing the draft also too, 271 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 8: because I don't do make checks, and then the draft 272 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 8: info is all there too, and that's why this pick 273 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 8: and this pick, if people don't understand, there are makeup things. 274 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 8: And also I was in Houston this this weekend is Saturday, 275 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 8: and I talked to Joe Spata and if Jeremy Payne, 276 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 8: even with going on the aisle, is not an All Star, 277 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 8: it's a crime against humanity because he's having an unbelievable 278 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: year and they are not the same team without Jeremy Payne. 279 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: Amen. Yeah, I agree completely, He's their best player. 280 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: JB. 281 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: Let me let me get to the National League with 282 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: you here real quick. So I want to touch on 283 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: one NL West team and then kind of summarize the 284 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: NL Central together. This is a big one that I'm 285 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: sure you will receive many comments if you haven't already 286 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: about Padre Is bringing in Sandy al Contra from the Marlins, 287 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: and you're. 288 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 4: Like, great, that's awesome. Uh. 289 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Ethan sallas Leo debrees. Brandon net amberto Cruz first, Nit 290 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: two names are the ones that most people know. So 291 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: you went hard. You got to give up the top 292 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: two prospects. They're super young, They've been talked about already 293 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: for a while. Right, how did that one get received 294 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: and how did you put it together? 295 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: Oh? 296 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 5: I got all the hate, which is great, and that's 297 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 5: what you should do. You know all we can't give 298 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: up these guys. These guys are all superstars. How potteries 299 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: will never do that? You're crazy? Yeah, that's fine. When 300 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: Sandie al Contra is right, he won the cy Young Award. 301 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: Anyone that's met him understands make up is eighty out 302 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: of eighty. He's got the size, he's got, he understands 303 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 5: how to win. He's getting healthy. We've watched the last 304 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: three or four starts. Some people are gonna want to 305 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 5: see him do this more before willing to give up 306 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: that kind of package. But he's an ace that he's controllable. 307 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 5: You get him for three postseasons. Right, they're gonna lose 308 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 5: Dylan Cees and Michael King in free agency, you know 309 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: unlikely they're going to be able to extend either one. 310 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: And then where are you're gonna be next year? Right? 311 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 5: You don't know what Muscove is gonna come look like 312 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: after Tommy John. You don't know what you Darbyship thirty 313 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: nine years old is going to be. So here's your ace, 314 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: because your windows here to win, not just this year, 315 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 5: but when you have Machado and Boguards to tease and 316 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 5: all these guys signed, you want to keep winning. So 317 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: here's your chance to get an ace. And will the 318 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: price come back and burn. 319 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: You with devrees? It will? 320 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: It'll be like James would and you'll sit there go, oh, 321 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: how did you give him up? I get it, he's 322 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 5: gonna be a great player. 323 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: I love him. 324 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: But you're not going to get al Contra without paying 325 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 5: a price in terms of sallus look I love the 326 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: bat speed like everyone else does. He hadn't hit yet. 327 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: I know he's nineteen in Double A. I love that 328 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 5: hadn't hit yet at all anywhere. Not saying he's not 329 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 5: going to I like the player, but sometimes we overhype 330 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: these guys. You know, you do have to hit a 331 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 5: break in ball the big leagues, right, You do have 332 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 5: to do that, and it's pretty hard hitting the big 333 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 5: leagues if you can't hit in the minor leagues. 334 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he won't. 335 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 5: I love the player, don't get me wrong, But I 336 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: think a lot of times people are reading about prospects 337 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 5: and they're just assuming that they're going to live up 338 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: to what everyone says. And all I would do is 339 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: ask all of the viewers right now, go back and 340 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: look at the top fifty prospects from all the websites 341 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: you want over the last fifteen years, and then maybe 342 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 5: look at it a little bit differently. 343 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: Is it NL Central going to be one at the 344 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 6: trade deadline? Is it going to be the team that 345 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 6: moves first. Is it going to be the Reds acquiring O'Hearn. 346 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 6: Is it going to be the Rockies actually parting with 347 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 6: Ryan McMahon and the Brewers picking him up. How is 348 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: is this trade deadline going to shape the NL Central, 349 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 6: which has become pretty tight race. Had the Brewers won yesterday, 350 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 6: it would have been one game back. There's still just 351 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 6: two games back of the Cubs. 352 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. The Cubs are going to 353 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: win the trade deadline in the NL Central. They're everywhere 354 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: right now, and they're willing to part with Owen Cassie, 355 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 5: one of their top power hitting outfield prospects, as part 356 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: of the package. And Jedheaier and Carter Hawkins literally are everywhere. 357 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean, as I talk. 358 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 5: To people in the industry, they're all in and they're 359 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: going to do what it takes to win. You know, 360 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: the Reds don't have a lot of money to spend. 361 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: They could use a bat. I can see them getting 362 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 5: a bat. I don't think the Cardinals are going to 363 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 5: do much. They need impact, but they're not going to 364 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 5: trade the future for this year. 365 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: Brewers have a. 366 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 5: Really good team and I think they're starting rotation. I 367 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 5: think the Brewers, in my opinion, is a huge threat 368 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: because of that, and Brandon Woodruff is going to get back, 369 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 5: but I don't expect them to be busy at the 370 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 5: trade dead I understand they're trying to upgrade the left 371 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 5: side of the infield. They're not getting much offense from 372 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 5: shortstop or third base, so that's what they're trying to do. 373 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: Easier said than done in this marketplace. And again, you know, 374 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: we have to look at this market right now. It's 375 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 5: going to change a lot in thirty one days. But 376 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: you've got a lot of buyers right now that have 377 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 5: to turn to sellers because the sellers don't have a lot, 378 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 5: And so you need the Orioles right You need the Rangers, 379 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 5: the Red Sox, Diamondbacks, the Twins, the Guardians and all 380 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 5: of them could be sellers of the deadline. 381 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: If that happens, we'll have a lot of fun. We will. 382 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 5: And it was interesting because in my poll and talking 383 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 5: to people, I was getting, you know, Emmanuel Classe and 384 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: Stephen Kwan names if the Guardians sell, I was getting 385 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 5: Duran and Jack's names from the Twins if they sell. 386 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: So I think the deadline changes a lot. But in 387 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: the NL Central I kind of feel like the Cubs 388 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: are the one team that are in position to make 389 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 5: the splash. 390 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 3: They've got the. 391 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 5: Better system and willingness to give up the system at 392 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 5: this particular trade deadline. Remember Jed Hory and Carter Hawkins 393 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: contracts are up. With Kyle Tucker right here, right now, 394 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 5: they're going to be an interesting team to watch for sure. 395 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 9: Well, the Cubs can hit, Jim. They can hit again, 396 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 9: I saw them this weekend. They can really hit. 397 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 8: And also, by the way, you mentioned Crow test you 398 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 8: about pumping out prospects. By you writing these articles and 399 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 8: putting prospects names in, guess what it does to fans. 400 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 9: It pumps up. 401 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 8: These prospects to fans and then the Vans clamor for oh, 402 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 8: we want this guy. 403 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 9: We want this guy. So don't say it. 404 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 8: Doesn't happen, because just by you writing this article, it happens. 405 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 8: My last thing, though, is Luis Severino is in Sacramento 406 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 8: and he's not happy. 407 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 9: But he just signed a three year deal to go there. 408 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 4: Did they trade him? 409 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 9: What do they do with them? 410 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 8: Because he will not stop basically complaining about the place 411 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 8: he picked to go. I know they gave him the 412 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 8: most money, but he picked to go there. Now he's like, 413 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 8: this place sucks. Other people on the team can't really 414 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 8: say it because you know they're they're brought up there. 415 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 9: They're kind of stuck with Severno's like. 416 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 8: Get me out of here. I don't want to be here. 417 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 8: This place sucks. I can't pitch here. And they're like, well, 418 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 8: you just signed three years. Guess what you might have. 419 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 5: To Louis Severino AJ knew exactly where he was signing, 420 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: right He. 421 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 9: Did he know? 422 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: Because I twere he knew he was going to West Sacramento. 423 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 5: Not for one year or two years, three years, they're 424 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 5: not going to Vegas. 425 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: Still after that, he knew exactly where he was going. AJ. 426 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: And this is what happens with greed, right, I want 427 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: to take the most years and the most money. My 428 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 5: agent wants me to as well, because he gets a 429 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: better commission. No one else offered three years, sixty seven million. 430 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: That's where I'm going. Well, then you have to live 431 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 5: up to it, like if that's where you decided to go. 432 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 5: Now that being said, look I've heard the criticism. Zach 433 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 5: Wheeler said the mound feels like cement. Carlos Correa said 434 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 5: it's the worst batter's box he's ever been in. Joe 435 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: Ryan of the Twins said that he wonders if the 436 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: mound isn't why his teammate Pablo Lobez got injured. Look 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 5: at those kind of comments I take seriously, and I 438 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: think Major League Baseball should look into it. Because I'm 439 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: not hearing the complaints about Legends Field, George em Steinberner 440 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 5: Field in Tampa. I'm not hearing those complaints. But in 441 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: terms of where he was signing and where the clubhouse 442 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 5: was going to be, he knew that when he signed 443 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 5: the contract, and now he wants to get out, and 444 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: now he wants to be traded if he can try 445 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: to go to a contender and hope some contender will 446 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 5: take the sixty seven million dollars. But that's what happens. 447 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 5: And you know, I always said to people, you know, 448 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 5: don't make decisions based on how much money someone offers. 449 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: You go to a place where you're going to be happy. 450 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: You know. 451 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 5: I always wanted players that wanted to go to a 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: place to win. That's what I wanted. I wanted players 453 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: that were willing to take less to stay. I wanted 454 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 5: people that were driven to win and be part of 455 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: a team more than the most money in the most years. 456 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: And personally, I have followed that up in all my 457 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: decisions in life. I've taken huge pay cuts from time 458 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: to time to be in the right position with the 459 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: right people. Winning, to me is everything. And for Lewis Severino, 460 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: you know, and I would sit there and love to 461 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 5: say that No GM is going to want him now 462 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 5: because he said all these things. That's a lie, because 463 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: there are teams that need pitching bad enough that they 464 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 5: actually will get engaged. The athletics have to pay down 465 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 5: some salary, but he will still be movable in a 466 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: market where there's not a lot of starting pitching available. 467 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Hey, were you gonna. 468 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 9: Still rub in a little bit right there? What guys, 469 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 9: It'll take less money to go to a different city. Guys, 470 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 9: it'll take the mood. 471 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: Article he did work for you. 472 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: It's a former GM hat. That's why I'm on this show. 473 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 4: It is it is. 474 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: I love it in that chair, JB. We're going to 475 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: cover that Severino story later. I just I think you'd 476 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: like my take. Yeah, he realized he made a mistake. 477 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: Might as well talk and try and talk your way 478 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: out of the place. He signed there. He didn't know 479 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: what he was getting into, even though he was very 480 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: very well informed by many people. He's like, Hey, maybe 481 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: I talk and I get myself out of here. 482 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: If he stays signed, doesn't move, how bad could it be? 483 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 9: Is probably what he said. 484 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, come on, I'm getting extra ten here versus 485 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: anywhere else. 486 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 6: There's no air conditioning in the clubhouse. Come on, there's 487 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: no way, JB. 488 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: I love it. Thank you so much for joining us. 489 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: We'll catch you again soon, okay. 490 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, win today in the cards, will you? 491 00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 6: Uh? 492 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we got defending champ right next to me 493 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: who acts like he's not good but he is. 494 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: But thank you, JB. Appreciate you. 495 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 496 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: Guys. Building a hair growth routine is easy only if 497 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: you go with neutrofol Why is that Todd father? 498 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 7: Neutrifoil. You think about hair for me, sometimes the hair 499 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 7: gets thinning. 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Mets have crumbled lately, yet they're still fine. 523 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: They're in a playoff position. But will easiest question to 524 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: start are they okay? 525 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 4: Are the Mets okay? 526 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: Oh? I don't know if that's an easy one, man. 527 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: That's actually I don't think they're I don't know if 528 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: they're okay at all. No, I mean you can I 529 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: don't think you could have a weekend like that and 530 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: be okay. Can you that's that's really tough. That said there, 531 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: like you said, like they're they're there. Francisco Lindora said 532 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: it best, I think the other day when talking about 533 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: their meeting that they had after one of their losses 534 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, like, hey, we're still in it for the 535 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: for the playoff spot. And they are, but that's on 536 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: the strength of their first two months of the season, 537 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: not what we've seen lately. So they have some proving 538 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: to do from here on out to make sure that 539 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: things are okay. But right now they're not. Right now, 540 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: they are not okay in what sense? 541 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 6: In what sense are they not okay? Because the plan 542 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: everybody the plan is always just make the playoffs. Right 543 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: now they're in line to make the playoffs. Other teams are, 544 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 6: you know, we'll put them on il for a little bit. 545 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 6: Is this indicative of the team that they are or 546 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 6: is this just a really rough stretch. 547 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think that you could be a fairly decent 548 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: team and still go through a stretch where things are 549 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: not okay, And right now they are going through a 550 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: stretch where things are not okay. Will they be okay 551 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: like down the road, Yeah, maybe, but they need some 552 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: things to happen. First, Like, they need these guys to 553 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: get healthier. Sean and I are for one, could I 554 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: saying is another guy, Justy Winker is of low key 555 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: importance to this group just because of what he brings 556 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: to that lineup, and he's been missing. So they have 557 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: some guys who are on the men who they expect 558 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: to get back relatively soon. That said, though, like we've 559 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: seen some things that are just not great from the Mets, 560 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: whether it be the depth of say their bullpen or 561 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: their pitching staff in general, which we thought was a 562 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: little bit more of a strength, or frankly, their defense 563 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: has not been good either, and that's been a season 564 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: long issue for the most part. And so even when 565 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 1: they do get these guys healthier from the pitching staff, 566 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: they need to start helping their pitching staff out by 567 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: catching the ball the ball a little bit better. And 568 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: then offensively, you know, they have their top guys who 569 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: are continuing to produce, but the lineup is just not 570 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: as long as we thought. Like David Stearns and his 571 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: group went into the season sort of expecting some good 572 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: things out of Mark Fiento's at third base and Francisco 573 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Alvarez Thatt Catcher to sort of lengthen this lineup out 574 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: a little bit in addition to those big key guys 575 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: that they have, and that really has not happened the 576 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: way that they wanted it to. Francisco Alvarez is of 577 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: course in Triple A at this point, and Mark Fiento's yes, 578 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: he just got back from the IL, and so I 579 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: don't want to take out too much from a from 580 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: a weekend, but he has not gotten going offensively, even 581 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: dating back to when he was held before his stint 582 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: on the IL. So you know, things could be okay 583 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: down the road, but for right now, like they have 584 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: some things that they need to iron out. 585 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 8: Well, I just want to know this team meeting Ozzie Gan. 586 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 8: I played for Ozzie Gan and he always said, good 587 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 8: teams win, bad teams have meetings. 588 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 9: Well, they had a. 589 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 8: Team meeting on Saturday, and you're gonna tell me what 590 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 8: you think was said. 591 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 9: And then they went out and lose twelve to one 592 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 9: on Sunday. 593 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 8: So like, apparently the meeting didn't do much in thirty 594 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 8: to four against the Pirates in a three game series. 595 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 8: The worst series in the history of the match, which 596 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 8: is a long history, is amazing. 597 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 9: So what was said in this team meeting? 598 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 8: Lindora apparently spoke, Alonso probably possibly spoke. 599 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 9: What are these I was always a. 600 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 8: Thing like, when you have team meeting, what do you 601 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 8: really say? Everyone knows they got to be better. Oh, 602 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 8: let's try harder. Baseball is not really a try harder sport. 603 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: You're right, And I think that also, like you could 604 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: have a meeting go fairly well, like it wasn't as 605 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: if like this team has a whole lot of issues 606 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: in their clubhouse. I don't think they do. I think 607 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: they have a pretty veteran group that have gone through 608 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things and they've experienced. Hey, they and 609 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: they experienced plenty just last year for instance. And then 610 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are back. A lot of 611 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: these guys are the same guys, and they brought in 612 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: others like Juan Soto, and so to answer some of 613 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: your questions, Lindora was one of the guys who spoke, 614 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: so was Pete Alonzo. Juan Soto said some things on 615 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: the pitching side. I think that they have leaders like 616 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: at David Peterson, who's been in the organization for a 617 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: long time. Ryan Stanek, a veteran reliever ried Garrett's another guy. 618 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: So they have guys in the room, and I think 619 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning. And some guys pointed out to me 620 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: even that, like when you do have whatever it was 621 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: seven eight nine guys speak up during a meeting, that's 622 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: probably a good thing where it's not just something that's 623 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: ran by one or two people, like you have all 624 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: these guys who are comfortable speaking up and saying their piece. 625 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: But to your point, it doesn't always translate. Like you 626 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: could have a pretty good group in that room, and morale, 627 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: like they said or suggested, could be pretty high or 628 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: fairly okay for relative to what they're going through right now, 629 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: and it just not translates. And that's what we've seen. 630 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: So I think Brandon Nimmo actually hit the nail on 631 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: the head when he spoke to the media about the 632 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: meeting and he said, look, it's not going to be 633 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: something that gets fixed overnight. It's just not He said, 634 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: I wish it was something like that, but that's just 635 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: not usually how it works. And so I really appreciated 636 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: just that perspective and that sort of realism that he 637 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: brought to the conversation because some of their issues just 638 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: won't be fixed that easily. Like these are things that 639 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe the dreadline at the deadline they could address, but 640 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: they are also some season long things that just need 641 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: to get better. And I just feel like it's a 642 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: combination of a few different things, and it's just not 643 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: something that a meeting is going to, like you said, 644 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: AJ just all of a sudden switch things up and 645 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: now they're going to play this inspired branded baseball and 646 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: everything's going to be okay. They had the meeting, they 647 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: fell down five nothing in the first inning, and then 648 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: after that the game was pretty much over on Sunday. 649 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: So it just hasn't translated. And it certainly was never 650 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: going to be the one answer anyway though. 651 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 6: But the one answer you said in the trade deadline 652 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 6: you can find it and Suta you could address some issues. 653 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 6: Is there any way that David Stern's kind of abandons 654 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 6: his way of looking at pitching that he has had 655 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: success in Milwaukee, had success until about sixteen games ago, 656 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 6: about how you build a pitching roster. Does he abandon 657 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: that at the trade deadline? 658 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't think you necessarily have 659 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: to abandon the whole thing. You do need some help 660 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: though there. They have yet to have a pitcher go 661 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: and recorded out in the six hitting. I think it's 662 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: up to thirteen straight games. That's a long time to 663 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: go without somebody recording it out in the sixth inning 664 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: for your starting staff, and it's weighed on the bullpen 665 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: and it's forced them to show guys onto and off 666 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: the roster, and they've needed to rely on these guys 667 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: to get some big outs day in day out, and 668 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: even when they've eased off on some of these relievers, 669 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: just I feel like the communicative effect of needing to 670 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: do this from the beginning of the season on has 671 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: caught up to some of these guys from a command 672 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: standpoint just not having it on some days, so they 673 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: clearly need to address it. I feel like they need 674 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: to get a starting pitcher. I don't know if there's 675 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: going to be like that Ace caliber that's out there 676 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: for them to go out and acquire, but they'd certainly 677 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: need help. And I think that asking say Sean and 678 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Ia to come back and be the guy that he 679 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: was in the second half after dealing with some health 680 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: issues is asking a lot. I think that he has 681 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: the potential to be that guy, but he has to 682 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: demonstrate some health first, and so they're asking him to 683 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: come back and be a prominent factor. He can be, 684 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: but they really need Code I saying it, to be 685 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: back from that hamstring issue and pick up where he 686 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: left off as well. I think if you get those 687 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: contributions plus add a starting pitcher to the mix that 688 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: has some veteran experience and can give you some reliability 689 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: as far as getting to the sixth inning at the 690 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: very least, it helps things out. It really does, because 691 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: they're just not at the point where I feel like 692 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: they have somebody in TRIPLEA even that could really come 693 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: up and make that much of a difference right now. 694 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: They tried it a little bit with Blade tidwell mixed 695 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: results at best, and I just feel like at this 696 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: point season, with a few weeks left to go before 697 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, it's definitely been an area where they're 698 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: going to need to address, and for me, it's their 699 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: biggest concern. 700 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: A well, last one for you thoughts on the offense here, 701 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 2: I mean that seems to be the one part that 702 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: I think is a world series lineup, especially with the 703 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: way that obviously Wan Soto just dominated the month of 704 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: June I mean, where would they be without the lineup 705 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: they put together this month. 706 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Well, it should be, it just has not produced in 707 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: the way that you could convince me that it is 708 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: right now, because to your point, like Juan Soto is 709 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: coming off a really historic tune. I mean, he put 710 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: together one of the best calendar months in franchise history 711 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: when you account for his walks, the power that we've seen, 712 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: just the way that he dominated, dominated and dictated, dictated 713 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: so many at bats. It was just unreal to watch 714 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: on a day and day basis, and they didn't really 715 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: take much advantage of it. They've gone through this tough 716 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: stretch of sixteen games or so and it's just has 717 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: not been good. As much as the pitching has been 718 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: an issue, and it's probably their biggest issue, the offense 719 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: hasn't really helped them that much. And it's a shame 720 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: because when you went into this season, you kind of 721 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: figured that, like it would be the lineup, it would 722 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: be the offense that pick things up for the pitching staff, 723 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: and it wasn't happening in the first couple of months 724 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: of the season. But their starting staff in particular, and 725 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: their pitching staff as a whole, was so good that 726 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: it didn't really matter that much. But right now, in 727 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: these last few weeks, it has really been on the 728 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: offense to pick up the slack and they haven't done so. 729 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: So when I look at this lineup, that sort of 730 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: baffles me, because you have Lindor, you have Soto, you 731 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: have Alonso, you have Nimo, you have McNeil. Those are 732 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: five guys right there, and then you add in some 733 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: of the young talent that they have and it's like, okay, 734 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: like one through nine, you should be pretty deep here, 735 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. I think it's between six, seven, eight 736 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: nine most days, the fifth spot as well, before Jeff 737 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: McNeil's hot streak a hot stretch, they just haven't gotten 738 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: enough from the back end of their lineup. And so 739 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: when that happens, and if one of your star players 740 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: goes into a little bit of a slump, you simply 741 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: can't afford it. And I feel like that's what's been 742 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: going on so far for the Mets. It's particularly this month, 743 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: you will. 744 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 8: It's our schedule eases up though they get the Brewers 745 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 8: and the Yankees coming up the next series. 746 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: At least, do you know who they have in the 747 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 4: Brewer series that they're facing. 748 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: Freddie Pea, Maze and Kutana against his old team who's 749 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: gonna try and carve them, and. 750 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 4: Then the Yankees, and that is a tough little stretch 751 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: coming up. Well, well we might. 752 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 9: Least a new month. At least it's a new month though, 753 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 9: so they can look at that. They can have a 754 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 9: meeting stage to light June. 755 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: That's right, Well, yeah, exactly, Thank thank you so much. 756 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: Everyone good will follow. He does great notes with Ken 757 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: rosenthal To in the Athletic. Check out his articles and 758 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: we'll be right back. Oh and we have a met 759 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: show called nets Up. As those two are going through 760 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: it right now. I would love I haven't done it yet, 761 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: but I will be very excited to listen to uh 762 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: Mark and James just absolutely go through their therapy session 763 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: from the weekend. So make sure you check out Mets Up, 764 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: even just for entertainment purposes. These two are very entertaining. 765 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: So if you hate the Mets, you might have fun 766 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 2: with the latest episode. We're Backlet size up the NL 767 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: East for a couple of minutes. Kratz the Phillies took 768 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: two out of three from the Braves. As we talked 769 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: about I mean, the Braves might make a crazy run 770 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: for a wild card. They're not catching up in the division. 771 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: But what do you think about the Phillies getting Bryce 772 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: Harper back? While the Mets looked at a series against 773 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: the Pirates and thought, man, at least we're going to 774 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: take two out of three, they got stopped. 775 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 6: They scored some runs, I mean Phillies specifically, they actually 776 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 6: scored some runs. Some Schwellenbach held them down yesterday. Ranger Suarez, 777 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 6: who's sneaky, having a ridiculous season. Yeah, besides one clunker, 778 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 6: he's been doing unbelievable. 779 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: But they need Harper. 780 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 6: They need Harper, but they don't just need Harper of 781 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 6: who he was. They need Harper like who he was 782 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 6: other years. Because it's Turner, Schwarber and Bom driving guys in. 783 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 4: That's it. 784 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 6: And that's really like you look at their ops's it's high. 785 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 6: They're they but they pitch the absolute lights out like 786 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 6: they're they're pitching. Their starting rotation is the best in 787 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 6: the game right now on the field, not on the roster. 788 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: On the field, and Dombrowski a j has mentioned how 789 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: obviously they're going to do something with the bullpen since Albarado. 790 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 4: You know, he's not going to be playoff eligible and 791 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: they just need help in the back end anyway. 792 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but do they need to kind of switch up 793 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: the offensive flow because that's the problem for them in 794 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 795 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: It's top heavy though. 796 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 9: They just need somebody at the bottom to figure out. 797 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: They need j T to get going again. 798 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 6: They need. 799 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 4: You for 800 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 9: Ye