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Speaker 1: That's the big debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: the question of the Haitian migrants who have been given

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Speaker 1: a temporary amnesty it's called and dumped into the town

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Speaker 1: of Springfield.

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Speaker 2: This is not in debate.

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Speaker 1: Sixty thousand person town, twenty thousand people dumped there. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot on a city. And Donald Trump has been

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Speaker 1: citing the fact that the locals say that cats and

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Speaker 1: dogs are being eaten, and so it became a big

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Speaker 1: part of the debate that David Muir said, well, we

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Speaker 1: called the city manager and the city manager said it

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Speaker 1: wasn't true. And it turns out that's not true. They

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Speaker 1: have been getting complaints. But we were talking about city

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Speaker 1: managers in the mix and that that seemed like an

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Speaker 1: interesting job to have. Some of you will remember Matt

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Speaker 1: Patrick's wife was the city manager, or at least assistant

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Speaker 1: city manager of one of the outlying towns, and I

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Speaker 1: always thought that would be kind of a fun thing

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Speaker 1: to do, right, to oversee a city. You're not up

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Speaker 1: for election, and if you really care about efficiency and

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Speaker 1: service and the delivery of services and the operation of

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Speaker 1: the functions of government, I want a small government and

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Speaker 1: I want a localized government, but I want.

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Speaker 2: A good government.

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Speaker 1: I always thought that'd be a really cool thing to do.

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Speaker 1: So our guest is Courtney Slatick. Hopefully I'm pronouncing that correctly.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was told the city manager of Elkempo. Courtney,

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Speaker 1: Did I get your name right?

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Speaker 3: Close enough? All right? You say it. I've been called

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Speaker 3: all kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: So i'll take that.

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Speaker 3: One's Courtney slat oh slatik.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hate to drop somebody in the bus under

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Speaker 1: the bus, under the but somebody pronounced it for me,

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Speaker 1: and as usual, he got it wrong. So first of all,

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Speaker 1: for people who don't know where El Campo is, we

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Speaker 1: thought that was the perfect size place and a perfect

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Speaker 2: Is that where Greek Brothers is? Are they in Wharton?

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Speaker 3: That's right? You know we're it's in El Campo. We're

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Speaker 3: an hour southwest of Houston.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so take me there.

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Speaker 1: If I'm leaving downtown and I'm on fifty nine, okay.

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Speaker 3: They just stay on fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on, I'm hugged three times, I've been carjacked twice,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even to six', ten, Right, okay So

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Speaker 1: i'm going to stay on. THERE i want to see

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Speaker 1: are you from this?

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Speaker 3: Area, no not, originally But i've been IN lqba eighteen,

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Speaker 3: years so maybe all.

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Speaker 2: Right we'll go with.

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Speaker 1: That WHEN i get To highway, SIX i want you

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Speaker 1: to tell. ME i want you to just kind of

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Speaker 1: quote the Streets i'm going to pass on my way

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Speaker 1: To El.

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Speaker 2: Passo let me Tell.

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Speaker 3: Campo, yeah not until it takes you a lot longer

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Speaker 3: to see me streets or. CITIES i think it's probably you.

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Speaker 3: Here if, yeah you pass through Sugar, Land, Richmond, Rosenberg. Kendleton,

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Speaker 3: uh there's a little town Called beasley somewhere in, between

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Speaker 3: and then you go To orton and we're the next.

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Speaker 3: Town we're account of about thirteen thousand.

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Speaker 1: People people call It kendleton Because i've always Heard kenleton

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Speaker 1: as if there's not a D i know there, IS i.

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Speaker 3: DON'T i don't know.

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Speaker 2: What does it pay well to be a safe? MANAGER

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Speaker 2: i knew this was.

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Speaker 3: Coming, yeah Well i'm familiar with the. Show, uh so,

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Speaker 3: yes it. Can it depends on where you, go and

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Speaker 3: obviously the public has a lot to say about. That

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Speaker 3: if you Ask Al campo residents how MUCH i, made

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Speaker 3: some might say too. Much and IF i called my

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Speaker 3: peers and city. Government they would say not. ENOUGH i

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Speaker 3: would just we put we publish. It it's on our

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Speaker 3: it's on our website Under city Of El. Campo we

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Speaker 3: publish how MUCH i make every. Year it is public.

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Speaker 3: INFORMATION i think cities have a responsibility to say what

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Speaker 3: they do with their, money with the citizens'. Money we

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Speaker 3: have to be. Accountable i'm not seeing that as much

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Speaker 3: in these mission statements on seeing is, diversity, equity inclusion

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Speaker 3: and not a lot of, accountability, transparency. Responsibility more of

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Speaker 3: that needs to be out. There and so to your

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Speaker 3: point on the city manager being called out regarding The

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Speaker 3: haitian migrants and responsibility to answer that question, honestly apolitically

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Speaker 3: and make sure that information is out, THERE i think

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Speaker 3: we're missing the mark sometimes on. THAT a lot of

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Speaker 3: city managers are trying to do, that BUT i THINK

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Speaker 3: i think sometimes people get caught up in the politics and,

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Speaker 1: It ramon, said he looked it up and you make six,

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Speaker 1: hundred which is a lot more THAN i.

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Speaker 2: Expected that's really. Good, Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Michael you're giving me some great.

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Speaker 1: Favorite that's what happens when you don't answer the question

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Speaker 1: we fill in with our.

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Speaker 3: Own.

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Speaker 1: Okay it says that you you served as the budget

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Speaker 1: manager for the city Of, friendswood budget measure for the

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Speaker 1: city Of College, station and budget analysts for the state Of.

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Speaker 1: Texas so let's go through how you end up the

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Speaker 1: city manager of the city Of El.

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Speaker 2: Campo where were you?

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Speaker 3: Born College?

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Speaker 2: Station College? Station all? Right and where'd you go to high?

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Speaker 3: School am? Consolidated and then you went.

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Speaker 1: TO a AND m where you got a bachelor's of

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Speaker 1: in political. Science what was YOUR?

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Speaker 2: Gpa AM i on a job?

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Speaker 1: Interview, well, no you're on a life, Interview. Courtney we're holding,

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Speaker 1: You we're putting you up on a. Pedestal we just

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 2: See if you're. Worthy. Hey, look to be honest.

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Speaker 1: With, you it would be just as fine with me

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Speaker 1: if you barely, passed because it's more, inspiring.

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Speaker 3: Oh my FINAL gpa was a three. Two BUT i

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Speaker 3: did go to graduate school TO i have to we're

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Speaker 2: That we're getting to.

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Speaker 1: THAT i feel like you underperformed and didn't put your

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Speaker 1: full effort into.

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Speaker 3: It that's fair. ENOUGH i was in.

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Speaker 2: College, yeah that's.

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Speaker 1: True master Of arts And Political science from Sam Houston State.

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Speaker 1: University And master Of Business ADMINISTRATION nba from The university

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Speaker 1: Of texas At. Tyler and then what was your first job.

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Speaker 3: Budget analysts with the city Of College.

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Speaker 2: Station and how did you like?

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Speaker 3: THAT i loved, it BUT i was. YOUNG i had

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Speaker 3: a lot to, learn and we were blessed to have

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Speaker 3: Growth we had more money than we knew what to do. With,

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Speaker 3: yeah you, know so we were literally giving money to

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Speaker 3: arts and things like. That so first out of that

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Speaker 3: police department. Budget so now you know WHERE i stand

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Speaker 3: on police for the rest of my. Career, obviously huge

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Speaker 3: supporter of, them and because that really shapes, you you,

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Speaker 3: know fundamentally who you, are and so that that was

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Speaker 3: a big. Motive they didn't put me over, park thank.

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Speaker 3: God SO i started out with police AND i worked

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Speaker 3: at The city Of collegation for five. Years husband moved

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Speaker 3: me To. Austin we lived there for not quite a.

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Speaker 3: YEAR i HAD i don't want to get. POLITICAL i

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Speaker 3: worked for the Say i'll offer you this the second

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Speaker 3: day as a budget analyst in The Texas Education. Agency

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Speaker 3: Governor perry vetoed the. Budget so the experience there was

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Speaker 3: the local. LEVEL i know you know, This, yes it

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Speaker 3: went to work For friendswood because as an AGG i

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Speaker 3: wharton To friendswood for seven or eight. Months Then i've

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Speaker 3: been With El campo eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Years hold on this.

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Speaker 1: Moment Courtney slottick is the city manager Of El campo

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Speaker 1: and our guest coming upon you like her so?

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Speaker 3: Far we? Do, okay everybody needs to be woke.

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Speaker 1: If courtney slotok is our. Guest she is the city

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Speaker 1: manager of Elp, campo and with the city manager in

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Speaker 1: the news In, Springfield, ohio we wanted a city manager

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Speaker 1: because we kind of find it, fascinating you, know if

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Speaker 1: you talk, about as we often, do that government ought

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Speaker 1: to be more.

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Speaker 2: Local you.

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Speaker 1: Know that was the point of the Original confederacy of

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Speaker 1: want to give up their. Identity South carolina was very

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Speaker 1: bill Of, rights it protects the individual against. Government SO

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Speaker 1: i love the idea of localized, government the state instead

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Speaker 1: of the, federal the local instead of the, state and

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Speaker 1: a well run community is a real. PLEASURE i mean

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Speaker 1: it is our small, towns, unfortunately and you're seeing this

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Speaker 1: waco you're seeing this In, brenham where there's this just

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Speaker 1: explosion of people getting out of The houstons and The

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Speaker 1: they're moving into these. Towns, unfortunately a lot of times

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Speaker 1: without even realizing. It See california come To texas as

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Speaker 1: the same. Theory Courtney slotick is our guest city manager

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Speaker 1: Of El. Campo All, right we've.

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Speaker 2: Worked through what she.

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Speaker 1: Makes let me figure out her husband's bank and big.

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Speaker 1: Money you live In.

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Speaker 2: Wharton Or El? CAMPO i live In El.

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Speaker 1: Campo how many police officers Does Civel campbell?

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Speaker 3: Have our total police staff is forty. Four but that's

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Speaker 1: It that's the old. Budget that's the old. Budget analyst

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Speaker 2: Firefighters, no we.

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Speaker 3: Don't we don't have that. MANY i mean that commissioned

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Speaker 3: Positions that includes our chief he's not a, civilian but

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Speaker 3: our secretary that works, there as well as our animal

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Speaker 3: control officers and our school resource. Officers, so but public

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Speaker 3: safeties obviously early on in my, career that's how we

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Speaker 3: started to continue to be a priority for me and

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Speaker 3: for the.

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Speaker 1: Council ramon wants to know if we can ride along

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Speaker 1: with the dog. Catcher we've done a lot of police right.

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Speaker 1: Along we want we want to ride.

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Speaker 2: Along with the. Doctor you want? To we, Could we

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Speaker 2: could set that. UP i bet y'all got.

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Speaker 1: Some little bitty stuff that we never even thought about

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Speaker 2: ON i bet y'all got some stuff we.

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Speaker 3: PROBABLY i mean some things come to. Mind yet probably

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Speaker 1: Firefighters which how many how many uh uh classified employees.

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Speaker 2: Do you have in the fire. Department it's a. Volunteer, oh, volunteer,

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Speaker 1: Right and, yeah do you do you allocate anything in

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Speaker 1: your budget to?

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Speaker 3: Them a little over two hundred thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 3: and like. Much but we're. Small there's a whole host of.

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Speaker 3: Things we pay for their medical, exams we pay for their,

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Speaker 3: for their. Uniforms we also last year we boughtom a

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Speaker 3: one point seven million dollar ladder.

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Speaker 2: Truck they would vot to approves.

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Speaker 3: Voters uh, yeah, yeah people like that and they approve

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Speaker 3: things like that and. Bondishuances so, uh that's how we

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Speaker 3: their pension.

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Speaker 3: Uh but their volunteers are ems in how we have

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Speaker 3: Fourteen we have a total of fourteen in our enos.

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Speaker 3: Department that's paramedics plus a director and a.

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Speaker 1: Director so how many how many residents do you have

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Speaker 1: in the city Of El?

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Speaker 2: Campo what? Twelve?

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Speaker 3: Six hundred and, fifty BUT i don't think that. COUNTS

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Speaker 3: i put it closer to. Thirteen but our growth rate

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Speaker 2: Small that's how it orange.

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Speaker 3: Was oh, OKAY i didn't know if you were alluding

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Speaker 1: Many total employees of the city, overall including classified, police, fire,

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Speaker 1: well POLICE emt and all, that one.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four oh that's pretty.

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Speaker 3: Lean thank. You please tell my residence that, no, yeah

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Speaker 3: we don't outsource a. Lot so of course that number

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Speaker 3: can look differently unless you can textualize. It it's really

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Speaker 3: hard to understand how many people you. Need you, know

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Speaker 3: what do we actually? Do meaning you, know we've this

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Speaker 3: budget cycle has been kind of kind of fun this,

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Speaker 3: well you've added a bunch of, positions but we need

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Speaker 3: to qualify. That the state Of texas said we have

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Speaker 3: to have a police officer and every, school so we did,

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Speaker 3: that and that means adding, personnel, Right and we've taken

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Speaker 3: services that were provided by contractors that decided to sell

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Speaker 3: quite a bit over the last eighteen. Years BUT i

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Speaker 3: approved by, counsel and so we list them all on

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Speaker 3: the budget. Document and LIKE i told you exactly how

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Speaker 3: much we fail.

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Speaker 2: Now, honestly why she makes six hundred thousand dollars a.

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Speaker 2: Year she's. Good this girl is on top of.

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Speaker 3: IT i like.

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Speaker 2: It do you have? KIDS i have? One why do

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Speaker 3: One we have a sixteen year old daughter that's actively

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Speaker 3: applying for college right.

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Speaker 2: Now IF i were to, ask what's your daughter's, Name,

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Speaker 2: Tara kara with the C.

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Speaker 3: Tara with a, Tea.

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Speaker 1: Tara T IF i were to Ask tara what her mom,

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Speaker 1: does how closely could she approximate what you actually?

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Speaker 3: Do, OH i think she's nail. IT i do because

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Speaker 3: she used to sit in on council meetings because she was,

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Speaker 3: she kind of has figured it. OUT i went at

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Speaker 3: a very young, AGE i kind of explained what city

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Speaker 3: management versus the, policymakers what they.

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Speaker 2: Do what did your parents? Do what do your parents

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Speaker 3: Mom my mom is a teacher or was a. Teacher she's,

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Speaker 3: definitely she's. Retired and my father was in project management.

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Speaker 2: Construction is he still.

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Know and your mother lives.

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Speaker 3: Where richmond and Del Web, oh, yeah she like. IT

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Speaker 3: i loved it. There it's a great. Community.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i hear good things about about that. Community i've.

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Speaker 1: Known in, Fact i've heard from from folks that live

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Speaker 1: there that listen to the. SHOW i figured you had

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Speaker 1: some public service in your. FAMILY i got that sense

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Speaker 1: from your values in your. Life of, Course, NO i,

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Speaker 1: Did and So i'm not surprised that your mother was a,

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Speaker 2: Veteran, NO i wouldn't have surprised.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah so IF i were to IF i were to ask,

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Speaker 1: residents all kidding, aside if there is something that people

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Speaker 1: would criticize you, about what would it? Be doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you're necessarily wrong for?

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Speaker 3: It is this like the interview question where you say

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Speaker 1: When people can't give me the greatest, weakness that's always

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Speaker 3: Like, no there's you, know, no, no no city manager is.

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Speaker 3: PERFECT i, Think, uh sometimes our messaging can be. Better.

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Speaker 3: Uh we need to we need to be out there

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Speaker 3: with our citizens. More we need to be more. Visible

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Speaker 3: we need to do a better job of. Communicating i'm

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Speaker 3: get our message out and uh in the. Newspaper BUT

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Speaker 3: uh we're not able to articulate that vision because we

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Speaker 3: Were So i've never worked with the private, sector so,

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Speaker 3: Uh i've only been the public sector my entire. Life

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Speaker 3: SO i think we lose sight of how how that

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Speaker 3: SO i would, say you, know if there's if there's

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Speaker 3: a weakness on my, side a couple of. Things the first,

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Speaker 3: IS i DON'T i don't necessarily run the city like

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Speaker 3: a budget like a. Business there there's pros and cons

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Speaker 3: to that Because i've because of the inherentness of working

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Speaker 3: only in local government my whull. Career but the other

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Speaker 3: side is we we don't do there There there can

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Speaker 3: be there can be times WHEN i think we've got

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Speaker 3: in our head that it has to be a certain,

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Speaker 3: way and, uh it takes us a while to get,

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Speaker 3: things to get to the other, uh to get to

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Speaker 3: the more business minded. Ideas MAYBE i don't know how

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Speaker 3: to word that.

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Speaker 1: Better courtney sladek is the city manager of the City

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Speaker 1: Ville Passo more with.

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Speaker 2: Her Com.

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Speaker 3: Michael Bailey.

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Speaker 1: Show DID i Say El? Paso i'm, Sorry ramon, SAID

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Speaker 1: i went to break Saying El. PASO i Meant El.

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Speaker 1: Campo it's the same thing it. Did El paso And El.

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Speaker 1: Campo you can actually say them. Interchangeably they're the same.

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Speaker 2: Town, yeah they're.

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Speaker 3: Interchangeable, Now, yes that's okay because we get mail From

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Speaker 3: El paso all the. Time, yeah we Really after.

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Speaker 1: The city manager Of, Springfield ohio was in the, news

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Speaker 1: we wanted the city manager of our Own and Now

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Speaker 1: campo has a reputation as being a well run.

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Speaker 2: City you, know, FOLKS i got to tell, you.

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Speaker 1: Being the mayor pro tem of The city Of houston

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Speaker 1: opened my eyes to something and my nose and my

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Speaker 1: ears to something that was a screeching sound and a foul.

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Speaker 1: Smell how big city governments run is. Awful the amount of,

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Speaker 1: fraud the amount of, waste the amount of, inefficiency the

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Speaker 1: dereliction of, duty the people who are overpaid and underperforming

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Speaker 1: the number of people who don't show up to work

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Speaker 1: for long periods of, time the amount of theft in.

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Speaker 1: Government it's a morass of. Evil it's, horrible and that's

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Speaker 1: why nothing can get. Done it's why the city services

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Speaker 1: are so poorly. Done and you see good people that

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Speaker 1: sign up to serve in the police department or the fire,

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Speaker 1: department or public works or any other and you feel

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Speaker 1: bad for them because they're in a situation that is

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Speaker 1: like A kafka, movie A kofka a, book and it's,

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Speaker 1: tragic it's. Sad but then you see these towns and

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Speaker 1: that's what they are to, me more a town than a.

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Speaker 1: City AND i say that in a good. Way that

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Speaker 1: are they don't get involved in all. That they don't

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Speaker 1: have these far flown, programs they don't try to have

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Speaker 1: sister city, relationships and the mayor is not traveling to

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Speaker 1: on these, supposed you, know trips that are all, junkets,

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Speaker 1: really and they don't try to be competitors In New.

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Speaker 2: York they deliver city.

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Speaker 1: Services and as geeky and nerdy as that may make me,

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Speaker 1: SEEM i love.

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Speaker 2: THAT i love what this woman.

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Speaker 1: DOES i love the thought of being really really good

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Speaker 1: at being ethical and efficient and customer service, oriented even

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Speaker 1: when sometimes the citizens may not appreciate. It that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff that thrills. Me that's WHAT i thought government

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Speaker 1: service was going to. Be Courtney slottik is her. Name

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Speaker 1: she is the city manager of Either El campo Or

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Speaker 1: el P, hasso you take your. Choice but she lives In,

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Speaker 1: Wharton so just think about that when you sid work.

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Speaker 2: With what.

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Speaker 3: She.

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Speaker 1: Lives, no that's that's WHEN i started my.

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Speaker 2: Career, oh you didn't make six hundred thousand a year back. Then, no,

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Speaker 1: Know the unfortunate thing is we're going to end this

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Speaker 1: interview with people thinking you make six hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a year and that that will have been your.

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Speaker 2: Fault i'll take the blame on that.

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Speaker 3: Line. OKAY i love your passion for.

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Speaker 2: THIS i REALLY i, Do, courtney BECAUSE i love.

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Speaker 3: You go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead i'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, NO i just think there's this general distrust and

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Speaker 3: disfranchisement with the government as a. Whole AND i understand

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Speaker 3: it like especially at the federal level and state, level

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Speaker 3: but so it leaks down naturally to the local, level

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Speaker 3: and so there's this giant distrust AND i well, understood

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Speaker 3: but because of the way the world works now and

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Speaker 3: social media and and well even even writing letters the,

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Speaker 3: EDITOR i think things are. Misunderstood and in a small

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Speaker 3: town you have a chance to sort of address. That and,

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Speaker 3: uh you don't just have the, chance you have a

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Speaker 3: responsibility To and So i'm grateful that you recognize what

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Speaker 3: city management should be and. IS i think it's a noble.

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Speaker 3: PROFESSION i don't think it's always, easy but at the

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Speaker 3: end of the, DAY i think the city managers across

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Speaker 3: the State texas and probably across the, country they just

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Speaker 3: want they just want cities to be livable and provide

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Speaker 3: quality life with their, citizens because that's what we.

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Speaker 2: DO i agree with.

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Speaker 1: THAT i agree with that you have an elected mayor PRESUMABLY.

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Speaker 3: I do every Two, well it's. Complicated do you want

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Speaker 3: me to walk it through that or is that a? Way?

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Speaker 1: Sure, NO i have a little, experience and you can

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Speaker 1: kind of compare and. CONTRAST i have a friend by

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Speaker 1: the name Of jimmy Pap, us and he's the mayor

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Speaker 1: Of Hunter's Village Creek point over in The villages and

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Speaker 1: it's all kidding. Aside it's a very very well run,

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Speaker 1: community and he is for the, elected unpaid mayor that

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Speaker 1: has a city. Manager he is very hands, on very,

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Speaker 1: passionate very committed to good fire. Service it's a shared

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Speaker 1: fire service amongst the, villages a shared police service amongst the.

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Speaker 1: Villages and they're both very, efficient very good water construction.

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Speaker 1: SAFETY i, mean he is all over. It for guy

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Speaker 1: that makes no money doing, this but he's passionate about.

443
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: It And i've met his city manager and he's kind

444
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 1: of a good. Sport and it's the way it's supposed to, work,

445
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: right the operations guy and the more kind of political

446
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: face of the. Community And i'm assuming that's probably the

447
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: way y'all.

448
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: Work that's exactly how we. Work but when we, vote

449
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: we have four large, positions AND i, apologize we have

450
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 3: four district positions and three at large positions and they're

451
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 3: elected every other. Year this is getting boring, fast so

452
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: let me jump to.

453
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 2: It the PERSON i love this sort of. Stuff you

454
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: have no.

455
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: IDEA i Think i'm the first person that ever read

456
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: the charter of The city Of houston and quoted it

457
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: at city council meetings and people THOUGHT i was a.

458
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: Weirdo, yeah, well our charter had to change because of

459
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: this the person that gets the most at large votes

460
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: becomes the, mayor so they're not on the ballot of the,

461
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: mayor but they have to get the most votes to

462
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: be the. Mayor it's very unusual and that goes back

463
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: to something that happened in the eighties when they tried

464
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: to redistrict, here but THE doj denied. It they said

465
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be fair to. Minority so city found a

466
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: work around to, say the person that gets the most

467
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: votes becomes. Mayor now you don't have to go through

468
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 3: THE dj for that, clearinghouse so you, know is when

469
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: that you. Redistrict it's Just i'm sure you're familiar with that.

470
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Process, yes, YES i enjoy that sort of.

471
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 2: STUFF i enjoyed our budget.

472
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: Process there were PEOPLE i, enjoyed you. KNOW i came

473
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: on to City council In january of two having been

474
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: elected in oh, one and the zero based budgeting phase

475
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: had kind of had kind of the trend had come and.

476
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: Gone BUT i love the. Concept and for those of

477
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: you who don't know anybody's been in business for a,

478
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: while particularly, budgeting those zero based budgeting is a reaction

479
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: to what creeps the ineptitude the inefficiencies that creep into

480
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: the budgeting, process which, is if a department gets four

481
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: hundred thousand one, year then the next year they think

482
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: they're getting four hundred thousand and they just fight for

483
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: an incremental amount and so. On once a bad budgetary

484
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: allocation is, made then the, idea how do we get

485
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: rid of? It, well it's there so zero based budgetings

486
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: where you start over and, go we're not giving you

487
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: four hundred. Thousand show me how much you should get

488
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: because it may only be two, hundred it might be seven.

489
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Hundred but let's start over from. Scratch it's a much more,

490
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: painful deep dig into the, facts but it's a better

491
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: way to run.

492
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: Things Courtney slottick is our.

493
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: Guest she's the city manager of Either El paso Or El.

494
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: Campo she makes six hundred thousand dollars a year and

495
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: she'll be our guests coming. Up but everybody knows who

496
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: this guy.

497
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Is come, on, man mit The Michael, Berry come.

498
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: On Courtney slottick is our.

499
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: Guest she has graciously agreed to spend her time in the,

500
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: barrel and she's a good sport about.

501
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: It she's from a college station.

502
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: And she is apparently a nuts and, bolts x's and,

503
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: o's blocking and, tackling get it, done city. Manager and

504
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: this is why small towns work better than big. Cities,

505
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: now small town residents don't believe. That small town residents

506
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: will tell you that there was a leaf on their

507
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: street that didn't get picked up for three days the other,

508
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: day that's not a bad. Thing that's why small towns

509
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: are better run than big cities is because the people

510
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: are so obsessive about every. Detail it's the broken paint.

511
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Theory in a big city they, Go i'm just glad

512
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: there's not a dead body waiting out there for three.

513
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: Days and that's the. Difference it's a lot harder to

514
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: be the city manager of a small town Like El

515
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: paso Slash El campo than it is the city Of.

516
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: Houston is the city Of.

517
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: Houston there's no expectation your doors can be unlocked as

518
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: you're driving along by hitting a. Pothole that's so, big

519
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: children are lost into. POTHOLES i, mean it's. Bad they

520
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: don't expect anything to be, Good but in a place

521
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: like this they.

522
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 2: Do, courtney what is your.

523
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 1: Don't give me some, bs you, know pie in the sky,

524
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: answer what is your thrill when you go, in what's

525
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: a win for you in a? Day what's the thing

526
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: that you do that you really enjoy.

527
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 3: DOING i love how you set that, Up so any

528
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: ANSWER i could how people will.

529
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: GO i just like to make a.

530
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: Difference, no that's, okay, OBVIOUSLY i mean you wouldn't be doing.

531
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: That but why DON'T i give you an? Example would

532
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: that be better IF i give, you like a concrete

533
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: example of course?

534
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: Specificity?

535
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Sure. Okay so we had a one hundred year old

536
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: cast iron water line in the ground Underneath highway seventy.

537
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: One for over one hundred, years this thing kept breaking

538
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: and we kept patching it, breaking, patching, breaking pat in

539
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: the middle of a, highway, Right so you can imagine

540
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: how fun that is for not just the people working

541
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: on the, line but the people trying to. Traverse they're,

542
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: trying they're just trying to go north and they can't

543
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: get past these. Lines and we were able to replace that,

544
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: line and we abandoned the line in place old cast

545
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: iron line put in a new new. Line it sounds really,

546
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: weird but it feels so good to know that we

547
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 3: took care of, something even though this isn't something our

548
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 3: citizen C they don't, really it doesn't really, affect but

549
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: it feeds every single costal business on seventy. ONE i

550
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 3: mean every there's dozens of. Them there's probably forty of,

551
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: them and that's all set off of that. Line and to,

552
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: me even if you can't see, it even if a

553
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: resident can't appreciate, it this is the work we. Do ye, no,

554
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: yeah and.

555
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: It makes a difference even if you don't get.

556
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: Credit.

557
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: Courtney there are people out there right, now men or, women,

558
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: who if they're, honest they would say that they derive.

559
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: Utility we don't want to say joy because it's utility

560
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: maybe out of before they go to, bed, cleaning wiping

561
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: down the countertops and making sure there are no dishes

562
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: in the. SINK i don't leave the office every day

563
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: until my emails are zeroed. Out ramon laughs about it

564
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Because i'll, SAY i need ten more. Minutes what do

565
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you do? On every email has to be zeroed, out

566
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: every document has to be removed from my, Desk everything

567
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: has to be turned. Off and THEN i AS i

568
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: get to the, DOOR i turn back AND i look

569
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: back AND i make sure everything is. Perfect SO i

570
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: walk into a perfect. Office WHEN i go to, BED

571
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: i go past the, SINK i make sure everything is

572
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: wiped down there are you, know little things like that

573
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: give me. JOY i am restoring order to a chaotic,

574
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: world and that gives me. Utility what you're doing is

575
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: providing the infrastructure and the basis for families and businesses

576
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 1: and human beings to. Thrive and that's not always, glamorous

577
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: but if that gives you, joy you're wired that.

578
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: Way, yep like, YOU i have the same. Routines so,

579
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: yeah if you walk by my, office just not a

580
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: paper at a. Place but maybe that's more telling my

581
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: personality than as a city. Manager it's just.

582
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: Nobody that also says that you are well suited for

583
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: what you. Do you, know there's something to be said for.

584
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: People Jim collins wrote a book Called good To. Great

585
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: if you haven't read, it you.

586
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: Should Ed young.

587
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Prescribed it for me in early two thousand and two

588
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: And i've read it multiple times And i've told people

589
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: to read. It and he said that if a well

590
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: functional organization needs the right people on the, bus but

591
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: the right people need to be in the right, seat

592
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you are clearly on the right. Bus the right person

593
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: to be on the bus and in the right. Seat,

594
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: courtney do you do? INTERNSHIPS i think you'd be a

595
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: great person for young folks to trail around because, No,

596
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: no here's. Why you give me hope that there are

597
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: good people in, government AND i want young people to

598
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: see that because government's not about giving speeches and brochures

599
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: and mailers and glossy. Campaigns government is about functioning for the.

600
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: People you can't really say, no, now can? You what

601
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: an ass you would sound? Like, well that's all, Nice,

602
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: michael but, NO i don't want some intern trailing around.

603
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: Me no, Thanks, NO i mean we have.

604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: Before we're open to. It one thing is they speak

605
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: at conferences sometimes AND i get people walk up to

606
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: me afterwards and we exchange. Numbers AND i take that extremely. Seriously,

607
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 3: uh there's a young woman In. Wharton they graduate from

608
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: ut and in The Bush, school and now she's working

609
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 3: for the city of Sugar. Land she AND i exchange.

610
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Numbers come, On i'll be your mentor we'll do. This

611
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: you may need some hips along the. Way i've been doing.

612
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: This i've been doing this a, while and so IF

613
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: i can help, you or inspire, you or or just

614
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: listen to, You i'm here because people have done that for,

615
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: me and SO i know that absolutely we were open to.

616
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: INTERNSHIPS i know you listen to the sh so you've

617
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: heard me. Appreciate but get yourself a. Mentor find somebody

618
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: you want to be, like and if that's A Courtney

619
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Slaught and by the, way it's not just for. Women

620
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: you can be a man and have a female. Mentor

621
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: people tend to find same sex. Mentors it naturally, occurs

622
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: but doesn't have.

623
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: To be and it doesn't have to Be Courtney.

624
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Slot it could be the police, chief or a pastor

625
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: or most anything. Else having a mentor has been a

626
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: huge part of my success at every step of the.

627
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: Way and this is the type of person that you

628
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: want to you, know under promise and over deliver and

629
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: have write your recommendation because you showed up and worked

630
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: hard and made a difference and didn't distract.

631
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: Her it's a pleasure to have you on the. Show.

632
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Courtney it really Is courtney, slotok city manager Of El,

633
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: campo and that portends good things For El campo that

634
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: someone as buttoned up as you is looking at the

635
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: little things so everybody else doesn't have to worry about.

636
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: It thanks for being our, guest.

637
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: SWEETHEART i appreciate.

638
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: It michael