1 00:00:11,697 --> 00:00:14,977 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,977 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:18,017 --> 00:00:19,737 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:20,177 --> 00:00:23,017 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Our friend 5 00:00:23,217 --> 00:00:26,777 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines joins us. Now you have no doubt heard 6 00:00:26,817 --> 00:00:31,497 Speaker 2: about her. She is the fastest woman in her event 7 00:00:31,577 --> 00:00:35,377 Speaker 2: in the NCAA swimming. She can tell me the specifics 8 00:00:35,417 --> 00:00:39,097 Speaker 2: about what the meters and event may be in just 9 00:00:39,097 --> 00:00:40,897 Speaker 2: a second. We're excited to have her join us. She's 10 00:00:40,897 --> 00:00:44,217 Speaker 2: also out there speaking on campuses across the country as 11 00:00:44,217 --> 00:00:49,337 Speaker 2: an advocate for women in sports. To have it just 12 00:00:49,377 --> 00:00:51,337 Speaker 2: be women in sports, actually, I think is one way 13 00:00:51,337 --> 00:00:54,417 Speaker 2: we could put it. Riley, thank you so much for 14 00:00:54,457 --> 00:00:56,617 Speaker 2: being here with us. First off, what was the event 15 00:00:56,657 --> 00:00:58,377 Speaker 2: that you were the best in the country at, just 16 00:00:58,417 --> 00:01:00,897 Speaker 2: so I was it butterfly or backstroke? I don't know. 17 00:01:01,097 --> 00:01:02,977 Speaker 2: I do doggy paddle. I'm not good at this. 18 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:06,297 Speaker 1: Well it might to swim now I would do doggy paddle. 19 00:01:06,857 --> 00:01:08,617 Speaker 1: But it was actually the two hundred free style where 20 00:01:08,657 --> 00:01:10,337 Speaker 1: I tied Thomas Wow. 21 00:01:10,377 --> 00:01:13,137 Speaker 2: Okay, so just tell everybody how you got into this. 22 00:01:13,177 --> 00:01:14,937 Speaker 2: Some of the folks are at home and listing are 23 00:01:14,977 --> 00:01:18,257 Speaker 2: going to know. But for those who could use a refresher, 24 00:01:18,297 --> 00:01:21,617 Speaker 2: who don't know, what was the situation that you faced 25 00:01:21,617 --> 00:01:23,537 Speaker 2: in the NCAA final. 26 00:01:24,737 --> 00:01:29,137 Speaker 1: Absolutely, So the first day of competition at our INNSIBLA Championships, 27 00:01:29,137 --> 00:01:31,817 Speaker 1: and this was last year in twenty twenty two, that 28 00:01:31,897 --> 00:01:34,977 Speaker 1: first day, that was the day that I didn't compete. 29 00:01:34,977 --> 00:01:37,497 Speaker 1: And so this was the five hundred free sylend. I 30 00:01:37,537 --> 00:01:39,337 Speaker 1: sat on the side of the pool and watched as 31 00:01:39,417 --> 00:01:43,617 Speaker 1: Thomas swam to a national title, beating out Olympians, beating 32 00:01:43,657 --> 00:01:46,617 Speaker 1: out American record holders. And when I say Thomas, I 33 00:01:46,657 --> 00:01:50,457 Speaker 1: should clarify this is Leah Thomas, who was formerly Will Thomas, 34 00:01:50,497 --> 00:01:53,857 Speaker 1: who swam three years on the men's team at University 35 00:01:53,857 --> 00:01:57,737 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania before deciding to switch to the women's team. 36 00:01:57,777 --> 00:02:00,177 Speaker 1: At best amongst the men the year before, was ranked 37 00:02:00,177 --> 00:02:05,297 Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty second. So watching Thomas now beat 38 00:02:05,337 --> 00:02:07,657 Speaker 1: all of the women in the country by multiple seconds, 39 00:02:08,537 --> 00:02:13,617 Speaker 1: obviously it's unfair. Obviously it's wrong. Anyone with a brain 40 00:02:13,857 --> 00:02:17,737 Speaker 1: can see this. So that second day of competition was 41 00:02:17,777 --> 00:02:19,897 Speaker 1: the day that Thomas and I raced against each other 42 00:02:19,937 --> 00:02:23,457 Speaker 1: in the tun inter freestyle, to which ultimately resulted in 43 00:02:23,497 --> 00:02:26,497 Speaker 1: a tie. We went the exact same time down to 44 00:02:26,537 --> 00:02:30,057 Speaker 1: the hundredth of a second, and so upon tying, we 45 00:02:30,137 --> 00:02:32,457 Speaker 1: go behind the awards podium where the n DOUBLEA official 46 00:02:32,497 --> 00:02:34,657 Speaker 1: looks at both Thomas and myself and says, great job, 47 00:02:35,017 --> 00:02:37,017 Speaker 1: you guys tied, but we have one trophy, So this 48 00:02:37,097 --> 00:02:40,537 Speaker 1: trophy goes to Thomas. And when I question this, you know, 49 00:02:41,137 --> 00:02:44,057 Speaker 1: why are you adamant on giving this trophy to Leah 50 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:48,057 Speaker 1: a male? The nce double official looked at me and said, well, 51 00:02:48,777 --> 00:02:52,057 Speaker 1: Leah has to hold the trophy for photo purposes. You 52 00:02:52,057 --> 00:02:53,937 Speaker 1: can pose with this one, but you'll give it back. 53 00:02:54,057 --> 00:02:56,457 Speaker 1: You go home empty handed, and Leah takes the trophy home. 54 00:02:57,097 --> 00:03:00,857 Speaker 1: And so obviously I knew the unfair competition was wrong, 55 00:03:00,897 --> 00:03:03,337 Speaker 1: and I knew what we were subjected to in the 56 00:03:03,337 --> 00:03:07,417 Speaker 1: locker room was wrong. But when this inc double official 57 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:11,377 Speaker 1: reduced everything that myself and my teammates and every female 58 00:03:11,417 --> 00:03:13,777 Speaker 1: who's at that meat, when he reduces that down to 59 00:03:13,857 --> 00:03:16,937 Speaker 1: a photo op to validate the feelings and the identity 60 00:03:16,937 --> 00:03:20,337 Speaker 1: of a male, that's when I had had enough. And 61 00:03:20,377 --> 00:03:23,657 Speaker 1: that's really what thrusted me into taking a public stance 62 00:03:23,697 --> 00:03:26,497 Speaker 1: on saying it's wrong and it's harmful. To women to 63 00:03:26,497 --> 00:03:29,257 Speaker 1: have males infiltrate into our sports in our spaces. 64 00:03:29,657 --> 00:03:33,697 Speaker 2: So now I have to ask who in this process, right, 65 00:03:33,737 --> 00:03:38,457 Speaker 2: who in this process was saying to you, this is normal, 66 00:03:38,537 --> 00:03:41,257 Speaker 2: this is okay. When is the first time. I'm always 67 00:03:41,257 --> 00:03:45,337 Speaker 2: fascinated by this because I'm making a study of mass 68 00:03:45,417 --> 00:03:47,897 Speaker 2: lunacy these days, like things that people are being told 69 00:03:47,897 --> 00:03:50,417 Speaker 2: they have to believe. I mean, one of the for me, 70 00:03:50,937 --> 00:03:54,057 Speaker 2: masking and the way people approach masking during COVID change 71 00:03:54,137 --> 00:03:58,417 Speaker 2: my sense of humanity and what Americans specifically but globally 72 00:03:58,457 --> 00:04:01,737 Speaker 2: also people were willing to do the transgender issues very 73 00:04:01,737 --> 00:04:04,257 Speaker 2: similar to me. And people will say things and they'll 74 00:04:04,297 --> 00:04:06,497 Speaker 2: behave in a way that they clearly know is false, 75 00:04:06,497 --> 00:04:10,217 Speaker 2: but they they just don't care. And I'm wondering who 76 00:04:10,297 --> 00:04:12,657 Speaker 2: was at any point in this with someone like no, 77 00:04:13,377 --> 00:04:15,657 Speaker 2: Thomas is a woman and you need to stop being 78 00:04:15,737 --> 00:04:17,577 Speaker 2: a bigot. Like was that ever said to you by 79 00:04:17,577 --> 00:04:21,017 Speaker 2: anybody in the in the sports world or was it 80 00:04:21,137 --> 00:04:23,577 Speaker 2: just you're supposed to show up at Everyone just doesn't 81 00:04:23,577 --> 00:04:26,777 Speaker 2: say anything like Emperor's no emperor has no clothes kind 82 00:04:26,777 --> 00:04:27,577 Speaker 2: of stuff, you know what I mean? 83 00:04:27,977 --> 00:04:31,457 Speaker 1: It was really like that. It was just as if 84 00:04:31,457 --> 00:04:34,577 Speaker 1: no one wanted to address it. Really, it was as 85 00:04:34,617 --> 00:04:37,257 Speaker 1: if we were supposed to smile and be kind and 86 00:04:37,337 --> 00:04:40,657 Speaker 1: be inclusive, even if that meant giving up our spots 87 00:04:40,657 --> 00:04:43,697 Speaker 1: on the podium, even if it meant feeling uncomfortable in 88 00:04:43,697 --> 00:04:47,657 Speaker 1: the locker room where you're being exposed to mel genitalia. Smile, 89 00:04:47,817 --> 00:04:50,497 Speaker 1: be kind, it's fine, be welcoming, be tolerant. 90 00:04:50,737 --> 00:04:52,257 Speaker 2: I don't want to be gross, but I mean, I'm 91 00:04:52,297 --> 00:04:55,177 Speaker 2: just I think it is important to the discussion. So 92 00:04:55,177 --> 00:05:01,497 Speaker 2: so would would Thomas like undress nude next to you 93 00:05:01,537 --> 00:05:04,217 Speaker 2: and your female And does he still date women? 94 00:05:04,297 --> 00:05:04,377 Speaker 1: Like? 95 00:05:04,417 --> 00:05:07,057 Speaker 2: Do we know this? By the way, So no, I mean, 96 00:05:07,337 --> 00:05:09,737 Speaker 2: like I think that matters well. 97 00:05:09,777 --> 00:05:11,817 Speaker 1: At the time, when we were sharing this locker room, 98 00:05:13,057 --> 00:05:17,177 Speaker 1: when Thomas is fully intact with male parts, Thomas's teammates 99 00:05:17,177 --> 00:05:21,977 Speaker 1: alerted me that he was still active with women. Now, 100 00:05:22,817 --> 00:05:25,177 Speaker 1: it's extremely confusing, and I know this based off of 101 00:05:25,697 --> 00:05:29,857 Speaker 1: public social media posts on their instagrams. Leah is now 102 00:05:29,937 --> 00:05:34,257 Speaker 1: dating another male to female transitioner. I believe they call 103 00:05:34,337 --> 00:05:38,177 Speaker 1: themselves lesbians, but it's really just two men. So it's 104 00:05:38,577 --> 00:05:43,777 Speaker 1: extremely confusing. It feels as if this is a fetish 105 00:05:43,977 --> 00:05:46,337 Speaker 1: because now it's come out also that Leah Thomas is 106 00:05:46,417 --> 00:05:49,697 Speaker 1: just an AGP, which means you're just sexually aroused by 107 00:05:49,777 --> 00:05:52,977 Speaker 1: dressing as a woman. And it feels as if we, 108 00:05:53,017 --> 00:05:56,057 Speaker 1: as female athletes sharing this change of space, we were 109 00:05:56,097 --> 00:05:59,297 Speaker 1: betrayed by the people who were supposed to protect us. 110 00:05:59,337 --> 00:06:03,057 Speaker 1: We were forced to participate in this fetish. 111 00:06:03,057 --> 00:06:06,537 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I mean, so is that auto gynophilia? Is 112 00:06:06,537 --> 00:06:09,057 Speaker 2: that when you said was that the acronym? You just 113 00:06:09,057 --> 00:06:11,137 Speaker 2: threw out their second ago? So, I mean, I don't 114 00:06:11,137 --> 00:06:13,537 Speaker 2: know how many people at home even know that. One 115 00:06:13,537 --> 00:06:15,217 Speaker 2: thing that's been fat Clearly you've done a lot of 116 00:06:15,257 --> 00:06:17,657 Speaker 2: reading and research on this, by the way, because one 117 00:06:17,657 --> 00:06:20,697 Speaker 2: thing that I think more people need to know about 118 00:06:21,017 --> 00:06:25,457 Speaker 2: is I've often brought up on Radio Riley that among 119 00:06:25,497 --> 00:06:30,297 Speaker 2: the medical profession specialties, psychiatry is the most left wing, 120 00:06:30,417 --> 00:06:33,417 Speaker 2: the most insane, the most Marxists, which I guess makes 121 00:06:33,417 --> 00:06:36,257 Speaker 2: sense to some people who think about surgeons like people 122 00:06:36,257 --> 00:06:39,017 Speaker 2: who have to fix your heart or your knee or 123 00:06:39,057 --> 00:06:43,577 Speaker 2: your shoulder the most conservative. Unsurprisingly by far so, people 124 00:06:43,577 --> 00:06:46,257 Speaker 2: that are fixing the stuff and if they fail, you 125 00:06:46,457 --> 00:06:49,497 Speaker 2: die in their politics tend to be very conservative. People 126 00:06:49,577 --> 00:06:51,697 Speaker 2: who are like, you know, tell me about your mother, 127 00:06:51,817 --> 00:06:55,297 Speaker 2: you know, like they're leaning left. And obviously now a 128 00:06:55,337 --> 00:06:58,057 Speaker 2: lot of them have been have been brought into this. 129 00:06:59,257 --> 00:07:01,497 Speaker 2: You know, no one really even does Freudian analysis anymore, 130 00:07:01,497 --> 00:07:02,897 Speaker 2: so that was kind of a bad freud joke. But 131 00:07:04,177 --> 00:07:07,457 Speaker 2: they're they're they've been brought into this transagenda. But it 132 00:07:07,497 --> 00:07:09,777 Speaker 2: was known for a long time, and clearly you know 133 00:07:09,857 --> 00:07:15,137 Speaker 2: this that cross dressing is a form of sexual arousal 134 00:07:15,217 --> 00:07:17,217 Speaker 2: for some people, which is why they have been doing 135 00:07:17,257 --> 00:07:19,857 Speaker 2: it for a very long time. The reason that they 136 00:07:19,937 --> 00:07:23,777 Speaker 2: suppressed this, obviously is one it brings a deviancy component 137 00:07:23,817 --> 00:07:26,137 Speaker 2: into for example, Leah Thomas being with you in the 138 00:07:26,577 --> 00:07:29,257 Speaker 2: women's dressing room. You know, on a swim team, you 139 00:07:29,257 --> 00:07:30,937 Speaker 2: guys are all getting naked and out of bathing suits, 140 00:07:30,977 --> 00:07:33,657 Speaker 2: the whole thing. And also, obviously we can talk about 141 00:07:33,657 --> 00:07:37,817 Speaker 2: this in a second, the transgender story, our stuff with kids. 142 00:07:38,777 --> 00:07:40,857 Speaker 2: What the heck is that all about? If people are 143 00:07:40,937 --> 00:07:43,097 Speaker 2: driving sexual pleasure from dressing up in this way and 144 00:07:43,097 --> 00:07:46,417 Speaker 2: then they want to be around children. Psychiatrists, by the way, 145 00:07:46,417 --> 00:07:49,737 Speaker 2: pretend that this has not been known for a long time. 146 00:07:49,817 --> 00:07:52,177 Speaker 2: Now they've abandoned this, I mean, Jordan Peterson will talk 147 00:07:52,177 --> 00:07:52,497 Speaker 2: about it. 148 00:07:52,537 --> 00:07:57,937 Speaker 1: That's about it right, No, exactly. 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All right, 182 00:09:42,337 --> 00:09:46,297 Speaker 2: So was this your Were you somebody before who I mean? 183 00:09:46,337 --> 00:09:49,537 Speaker 2: Were you like me, you know, a college Republican nerd 184 00:09:49,577 --> 00:09:52,537 Speaker 2: who is praying to Saint Reagan sometimes? Or were you 185 00:09:52,617 --> 00:09:54,737 Speaker 2: somebody who was like, Eh, I'm just gonna be a 186 00:09:54,737 --> 00:09:57,137 Speaker 2: really really good swimmer, you know, get the best grades 187 00:09:57,177 --> 00:09:58,937 Speaker 2: I can, enjoy my college life and I'll figure out 188 00:09:58,937 --> 00:10:00,697 Speaker 2: politics later, Like where were you in all this? 189 00:10:02,457 --> 00:10:07,217 Speaker 1: I've always been politically in tune. I've always known who 190 00:10:07,297 --> 00:10:10,257 Speaker 1: is where, what's going on. But by no means I 191 00:10:10,297 --> 00:10:14,537 Speaker 1: have a political background. When I graduated University of Kentucky 192 00:10:14,617 --> 00:10:17,257 Speaker 1: last year, I had every intention on being in dental 193 00:10:17,257 --> 00:10:20,297 Speaker 1: school actually this year, but I put that off for 194 00:10:20,337 --> 00:10:24,337 Speaker 1: a while to kind of pursue fighting for protecting women's 195 00:10:24,337 --> 00:10:26,857 Speaker 1: sports because I saw there was no one else who 196 00:10:27,257 --> 00:10:30,977 Speaker 1: had been directly impacted with the same powerful testimony. And 197 00:10:32,137 --> 00:10:34,657 Speaker 1: I guess I can say courage. I hate that it 198 00:10:34,857 --> 00:10:38,817 Speaker 1: even requires courage to say what I'm saying that I had, 199 00:10:38,817 --> 00:10:42,217 Speaker 1: And so I pushed dental school off, and so I'm 200 00:10:42,217 --> 00:10:44,617 Speaker 1: supposed to go back to dental school this fall, but 201 00:10:44,857 --> 00:10:48,417 Speaker 1: I'm still looking at what that looks like, just because 202 00:10:48,457 --> 00:10:51,857 Speaker 1: I still feel like there's not enough people girls, women, 203 00:10:51,977 --> 00:10:55,577 Speaker 1: female athletes and male athletes quite frankly, who are willing 204 00:10:55,657 --> 00:10:58,537 Speaker 1: to talk about this and take a public stance. And 205 00:10:58,617 --> 00:11:03,017 Speaker 1: so I'm learning every day by no means was this 206 00:11:03,097 --> 00:11:07,057 Speaker 1: something I ever wish for, I ever wanted. So it's 207 00:11:07,097 --> 00:11:09,697 Speaker 1: been an eye opening experience, to say the. 208 00:11:09,697 --> 00:11:14,937 Speaker 2: Least, now that you're somebody who is out there speaking 209 00:11:14,937 --> 00:11:17,777 Speaker 2: about this. We'll get to what happened to you at 210 00:11:17,817 --> 00:11:22,337 Speaker 2: what was it, Sandy, San Francisco State University? Is that right? Yeah, 211 00:11:22,337 --> 00:11:24,377 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. We were talking 212 00:11:24,377 --> 00:11:26,457 Speaker 2: about that on the radio show recently and had you 213 00:11:26,457 --> 00:11:30,017 Speaker 2: on to speak about it. But I just wonder do 214 00:11:30,217 --> 00:11:34,297 Speaker 2: any collegiate athletes, whenever someone stands up in front of 215 00:11:34,337 --> 00:11:36,417 Speaker 2: an auditorium, right, and you know this, because you're doing this, 216 00:11:37,257 --> 00:11:39,937 Speaker 2: if they take the whole you know, calling you a 217 00:11:39,937 --> 00:11:42,777 Speaker 2: bigot or anything like that, that's just that's just virtue 218 00:11:42,777 --> 00:11:44,977 Speaker 2: signaling among their peer group, right, that's just because they 219 00:11:44,977 --> 00:11:47,097 Speaker 2: want they want a video of them being so brave. 220 00:11:47,537 --> 00:11:50,297 Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that because that's obvious why somebody 221 00:11:50,337 --> 00:11:53,417 Speaker 2: would do that, right, because we understand that the political dynamics. 222 00:11:53,737 --> 00:11:57,337 Speaker 2: But do any either when you were swimming at a 223 00:11:57,617 --> 00:12:03,817 Speaker 2: national champion level or afterwards, do any actual female athletes 224 00:12:03,977 --> 00:12:06,297 Speaker 2: reach out to you in earnestness, right, like, in all 225 00:12:06,337 --> 00:12:09,537 Speaker 2: honesty and say you really were swimming against a woman, 226 00:12:09,617 --> 00:12:12,417 Speaker 2: Like why can you see that? I'm just I'm curious. 227 00:12:14,497 --> 00:12:20,017 Speaker 1: No, I haven't really had anyone who, especially an athlete 228 00:12:20,017 --> 00:12:23,297 Speaker 1: competing at the level that I've had who has reached 229 00:12:23,297 --> 00:12:26,897 Speaker 1: out and criticized me for feeling uncomfortable in the locker room, 230 00:12:26,937 --> 00:12:30,737 Speaker 1: or criticized me for wanting fair competition. And I think 231 00:12:30,737 --> 00:12:32,857 Speaker 1: it's because the people who are competing at the same 232 00:12:32,937 --> 00:12:35,337 Speaker 1: level I was that that meat we were at is 233 00:12:35,377 --> 00:12:37,657 Speaker 1: the fastest meat in the world, the fastest short course 234 00:12:37,697 --> 00:12:42,537 Speaker 1: meat in the world. So it's obviously a high level. 235 00:12:42,657 --> 00:12:47,937 Speaker 1: Meet those girls who worked their entire lives to get there. 236 00:12:48,217 --> 00:12:51,057 Speaker 1: They know the sacrifices that they've had to make. They've 237 00:12:51,177 --> 00:12:54,377 Speaker 1: competed on teams with men before, and they know that 238 00:12:54,577 --> 00:12:57,057 Speaker 1: an average level man, which is what we're seeing in 239 00:12:57,057 --> 00:12:59,577 Speaker 1: the case of Lea Thomas, could be the best woman 240 00:12:59,577 --> 00:13:03,697 Speaker 1: in the country by body links. And again that's exactly 241 00:13:03,737 --> 00:13:06,937 Speaker 1: what we saw. And so my argument by no means 242 00:13:06,977 --> 00:13:11,017 Speaker 1: is flawed, especially to the female athletes who see this firsthand. 243 00:13:11,097 --> 00:13:12,977 Speaker 1: Even if they don't agree with me. We could disagree 244 00:13:12,977 --> 00:13:18,737 Speaker 1: on every other issue, with other political issues, especially, but 245 00:13:18,817 --> 00:13:21,057 Speaker 1: they agree on this. And that's something I'm seeing across 246 00:13:21,097 --> 00:13:24,097 Speaker 1: the board is I've had lifelong liberals reach out to 247 00:13:24,137 --> 00:13:26,737 Speaker 1: me and just kind of be appalled that the Democrats 248 00:13:26,737 --> 00:13:30,617 Speaker 1: can't even define what a woman is. They once took 249 00:13:30,817 --> 00:13:33,217 Speaker 1: pride in the fact that they were behind this original 250 00:13:33,297 --> 00:13:36,577 Speaker 1: feminist movement, that it was, of course meant to empower 251 00:13:36,617 --> 00:13:39,257 Speaker 1: and embrace women. And now it seems as if in 252 00:13:39,337 --> 00:13:41,737 Speaker 1: such a short amount of time they've totally turned their 253 00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:44,657 Speaker 1: back on women all together. And I think people are 254 00:13:44,697 --> 00:13:47,657 Speaker 1: starting to realize that and how that's harmful to women 255 00:13:47,697 --> 00:13:48,137 Speaker 1: and girls. 256 00:13:48,497 --> 00:13:50,737 Speaker 2: When did you start? I mean, just because one thing 257 00:13:50,777 --> 00:13:54,257 Speaker 2: that I think is always left out of the discussion 258 00:13:54,337 --> 00:13:57,057 Speaker 2: a little bit on purpose, I think by the left 259 00:13:57,177 --> 00:14:01,497 Speaker 2: is that they'll say this is about courtesy, right, And 260 00:14:01,537 --> 00:14:05,337 Speaker 2: this is why I was actually pretty alone for a 261 00:14:05,377 --> 00:14:07,697 Speaker 2: while there. I mean, there are other guys and gals 262 00:14:07,737 --> 00:14:10,297 Speaker 2: who have been pretty fierce on this, but because I 263 00:14:10,337 --> 00:14:12,457 Speaker 2: was saying this whole use the pronoun that's preferred to 264 00:14:12,457 --> 00:14:14,697 Speaker 2: be nice thing. It's not about being nice guys. This 265 00:14:14,777 --> 00:14:16,537 Speaker 2: is about getting you to be a party to a lie. 266 00:14:16,577 --> 00:14:18,097 Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with oh, this is a 267 00:14:18,177 --> 00:14:21,417 Speaker 2: nice you know, Like I can't disagree with someone who 268 00:14:21,457 --> 00:14:23,457 Speaker 2: wants to change their name or be called by a different, 269 00:14:23,497 --> 00:14:26,817 Speaker 2: you know, human name. So Lea Tom is fine. You know, 270 00:14:27,017 --> 00:14:28,897 Speaker 2: people might yell at me like your middle name is Buck, 271 00:14:28,937 --> 00:14:30,417 Speaker 2: but your first name is James, Why aren't you know 272 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,577 Speaker 2: so fine? You call your name whatever you want. You know, 273 00:14:32,657 --> 00:14:36,457 Speaker 2: people people have all kinds of weird nicknames. But your 274 00:14:36,497 --> 00:14:39,137 Speaker 2: gender is a reality and it is an objective fact, 275 00:14:39,537 --> 00:14:42,497 Speaker 2: and they keep trying to change that. And I sit 276 00:14:42,577 --> 00:14:44,457 Speaker 2: here and I just want people to know. I mean, 277 00:14:44,577 --> 00:14:47,017 Speaker 2: how how many years had you been swimming? 278 00:14:47,097 --> 00:14:47,137 Speaker 1: Like? 279 00:14:47,177 --> 00:14:48,977 Speaker 2: I mean to be at the there's not really like 280 00:14:49,017 --> 00:14:51,177 Speaker 2: I know, there's some maybe, but professional swimming isn't really 281 00:14:51,177 --> 00:14:53,497 Speaker 2: a thing, right. Winning the NCAA Championship is the peak. 282 00:14:53,537 --> 00:14:55,937 Speaker 2: I mean that the Olympics, right, that's about as high 283 00:14:55,977 --> 00:14:57,657 Speaker 2: as the swimming world is going to is going to 284 00:14:57,697 --> 00:15:00,057 Speaker 2: be able to go in terms of competition. When did 285 00:15:00,097 --> 00:15:02,057 Speaker 2: you start? I mean, how many thousands of hours had 286 00:15:02,057 --> 00:15:04,057 Speaker 2: you put into the pool before you were told, yes, 287 00:15:04,057 --> 00:15:04,977 Speaker 2: swim against a dude. 288 00:15:06,577 --> 00:15:08,617 Speaker 1: So I started swiming when I was four years old. 289 00:15:09,497 --> 00:15:12,497 Speaker 1: I twenty two when I actually I was twenty one 290 00:15:12,657 --> 00:15:17,657 Speaker 1: now at the time, twenty two now. So I dedicated 291 00:15:17,737 --> 00:15:20,617 Speaker 1: eighteen years of my life to my sport, which of 292 00:15:20,697 --> 00:15:24,537 Speaker 1: course includes not just your sports specific training, but also 293 00:15:24,617 --> 00:15:28,217 Speaker 1: your weight training, also your diet, your sleep schedule, your 294 00:15:28,257 --> 00:15:32,297 Speaker 1: physical rehabilitation, not to mention the social sacrifices the school 295 00:15:32,297 --> 00:15:34,337 Speaker 1: you have to miss, especially at the collegiate level, when 296 00:15:34,337 --> 00:15:36,737 Speaker 1: you go on these week long trips during finals week 297 00:15:36,817 --> 00:15:40,257 Speaker 1: or whatever. That looks like there's so much that goes 298 00:15:40,297 --> 00:15:44,137 Speaker 1: into it. It's essentially your identity. I put so much 299 00:15:44,137 --> 00:15:45,897 Speaker 1: of my own identity in the fact that I was 300 00:15:45,937 --> 00:15:52,297 Speaker 1: a swimmer. How could you not? Which is it's impossible 301 00:15:52,337 --> 00:15:54,897 Speaker 1: to put into words the amount of time. At the 302 00:15:54,897 --> 00:15:58,737 Speaker 1: collegiate level, you're practicing six hours every single day. Three 303 00:15:58,737 --> 00:16:02,177 Speaker 1: hours before eight am, you practice five to eight, you 304 00:16:02,217 --> 00:16:05,137 Speaker 1: go to class, you'll come back, you practice again from 305 00:16:05,137 --> 00:16:09,057 Speaker 1: one thirty to four thirty, So six hours a day 306 00:16:09,377 --> 00:16:12,577 Speaker 1: each day in the water where you're not breathing, your 307 00:16:12,617 --> 00:16:16,897 Speaker 1: head is down, you're flipping continuously almost probably swim ten 308 00:16:16,937 --> 00:16:20,097 Speaker 1: miles every day, a lot of swimming. 309 00:16:20,497 --> 00:16:22,497 Speaker 2: It's a lot of time, a lot of effort, a 310 00:16:22,537 --> 00:16:25,897 Speaker 2: lot of discipline. And it's remarkable to me that there 311 00:16:25,937 --> 00:16:31,177 Speaker 2: are adults who were involved in this whole process. Who 312 00:16:32,337 --> 00:16:37,217 Speaker 2: decides that Thomas gets to swim in that meet? Like 313 00:16:37,257 --> 00:16:40,497 Speaker 2: how does that process work? Just so I understand, you 314 00:16:40,537 --> 00:16:44,337 Speaker 2: know who deserves the most, you know, the most right 315 00:16:44,697 --> 00:16:47,497 Speaker 2: bile in their direction, like who was the one in 316 00:16:47,617 --> 00:16:48,057 Speaker 2: charge of this. 317 00:16:49,257 --> 00:16:53,057 Speaker 1: Ultimately it was the NCAA. They did not want accountability. 318 00:16:53,097 --> 00:16:56,857 Speaker 1: They were looking for other organizations. They were looking at 319 00:16:56,897 --> 00:16:59,697 Speaker 1: USA Swimming, they were looking at the International Olympic Committee. 320 00:16:59,897 --> 00:17:02,577 Speaker 1: But ultimately the guidelines they had in place, which were 321 00:17:02,617 --> 00:17:06,137 Speaker 1: created in twenty ten, which it was just twelve months 322 00:17:06,137 --> 00:17:09,617 Speaker 1: of hormone suppressant, it was they did not check levels. 323 00:17:09,657 --> 00:17:13,217 Speaker 1: They didn't. I don't believe they made you prove you 324 00:17:13,257 --> 00:17:17,457 Speaker 1: were actually taking these hormone suppressors. It was just supposed 325 00:17:17,497 --> 00:17:21,937 Speaker 1: to be twelve months of HRT, which we know, we 326 00:17:22,057 --> 00:17:25,137 Speaker 1: have the science that tells us. Of course, one year 327 00:17:25,177 --> 00:17:29,137 Speaker 1: of hormone suppression by no means will mitigate male advantage 328 00:17:29,137 --> 00:17:32,017 Speaker 1: and make the testosterone levels even remotely computable to that 329 00:17:32,097 --> 00:17:35,337 Speaker 1: of a male versus a female. Even if it could, 330 00:17:35,537 --> 00:17:38,777 Speaker 1: even if testosterone levels could get down to the same level, 331 00:17:38,777 --> 00:17:41,257 Speaker 1: which they can't because it would be extremely dangerous for 332 00:17:41,297 --> 00:17:44,697 Speaker 1: a male to have testosteron levels that low. There are 333 00:17:44,737 --> 00:17:48,057 Speaker 1: still advantages that will never go away, like heart size, 334 00:17:48,137 --> 00:17:52,497 Speaker 1: lum size, of course, limb size, your height. Even something 335 00:17:52,537 --> 00:17:54,977 Speaker 1: as silly as men on average have a forty percent 336 00:17:55,057 --> 00:17:58,217 Speaker 1: larger throat than women, which plays a huge factor in 337 00:17:58,497 --> 00:18:01,377 Speaker 1: success when you're playing a sport like swimming where you're 338 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:05,737 Speaker 1: grasping for air. So there's so many little things that, 339 00:18:05,817 --> 00:18:09,097 Speaker 1: of course will never be mitigated, and the nc double 340 00:18:09,137 --> 00:18:12,057 Speaker 1: A is all to blame. There's a lot of different 341 00:18:12,577 --> 00:18:15,857 Speaker 1: ways the finger could point. It could point at state 342 00:18:15,977 --> 00:18:18,817 Speaker 1: legislature in Georgia for not passing some sort of fairness 343 00:18:18,857 --> 00:18:21,777 Speaker 1: in women's sports bill sooner because our meat was at 344 00:18:21,777 --> 00:18:24,337 Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. Of course, in the NCAA, it could go 345 00:18:24,377 --> 00:18:25,577 Speaker 1: a lot of different routes. 346 00:18:27,097 --> 00:18:28,937 Speaker 2: Random question. I remember, I feel like I heard this 347 00:18:29,017 --> 00:18:30,897 Speaker 2: when I was back in college, which was a long 348 00:18:30,937 --> 00:18:33,937 Speaker 2: time ago. Riley, do the guys on the swim team 349 00:18:33,977 --> 00:18:35,537 Speaker 2: shave their legs or is that just a rumor? 350 00:18:36,817 --> 00:18:37,977 Speaker 1: No, they definitely do. 351 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:38,817 Speaker 2: They do. 352 00:18:39,017 --> 00:18:41,537 Speaker 1: They'll shave their legs, they'll shave their arms, they shave 353 00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:44,537 Speaker 1: their chests, their backs, Okay, they shave all their facial 354 00:18:44,577 --> 00:18:44,937 Speaker 1: hair off. 355 00:18:45,217 --> 00:18:48,537 Speaker 2: Because I gotta tell you, they should have gotten themselves 356 00:18:48,617 --> 00:18:53,297 Speaker 2: some one blades. One blade shave phenomenal razors, the best 357 00:18:53,297 --> 00:18:57,017 Speaker 2: you're gonna find anywhere. 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This 376 00:19:52,337 --> 00:19:55,457 Speaker 2: will be your razor of choice. It's mine, it's phenomenal. 377 00:19:55,537 --> 00:19:57,457 Speaker 2: You will love it all right, Riley, you've been speaking 378 00:19:57,497 --> 00:20:04,337 Speaker 2: at college campuses, and you know it's something that we've 379 00:20:04,337 --> 00:20:06,857 Speaker 2: all now seen. The video where you were mobbed by 380 00:20:06,857 --> 00:20:09,177 Speaker 2: a bunch of lunatics. Just tell us a bit about 381 00:20:09,177 --> 00:20:11,337 Speaker 2: how this all came au like, bring us into the 382 00:20:11,417 --> 00:20:13,857 Speaker 2: day where you're trying to say, hey, guys, I think 383 00:20:13,857 --> 00:20:16,457 Speaker 2: that you're not even anti trans or you know whatever 384 00:20:16,497 --> 00:20:18,137 Speaker 2: that would that would mean in the context of the 385 00:20:18,177 --> 00:20:19,417 Speaker 2: left says that you're just saying, can we just let 386 00:20:19,457 --> 00:20:21,697 Speaker 2: women sports be for women? As somebody who was competing 387 00:20:21,697 --> 00:20:23,097 Speaker 2: as a woman at the highest level of the NC 388 00:20:23,217 --> 00:20:27,937 Speaker 2: double A and woming the NC double A and that's unacceptable, 389 00:20:27,977 --> 00:20:29,457 Speaker 2: and they and they hit you, and they attack you 390 00:20:29,497 --> 00:20:31,657 Speaker 2: and they go crazy. So tell us what, like bring 391 00:20:31,777 --> 00:20:34,057 Speaker 2: us through that day. 392 00:20:34,217 --> 00:20:38,177 Speaker 1: So I was invited to San Francisco State University to 393 00:20:38,217 --> 00:20:42,977 Speaker 1: speak by turning point, I knew, at least I thought 394 00:20:43,017 --> 00:20:45,177 Speaker 1: I knew what I was getting myself into by going 395 00:20:45,177 --> 00:20:48,297 Speaker 1: to San Francisco. Obviously that's a different climate than what 396 00:20:48,337 --> 00:20:52,697 Speaker 1: I'm used to at my home in Tennessee. The demographic 397 00:20:52,777 --> 00:20:55,377 Speaker 1: is different. The I understand. I was speaking at a 398 00:20:55,417 --> 00:20:58,657 Speaker 1: college where this is a school that prides themselves on 399 00:20:58,897 --> 00:21:03,377 Speaker 1: diversity and inclusion and all the things. But that almost 400 00:21:03,417 --> 00:21:06,417 Speaker 1: excites me, not because I want controversy or I want 401 00:21:06,457 --> 00:21:10,057 Speaker 1: to start arguments or I want to be someone who 402 00:21:10,057 --> 00:21:13,377 Speaker 1: who is just doing this for media attention, but because 403 00:21:13,377 --> 00:21:16,217 Speaker 1: I could get myself in front of people who don't 404 00:21:16,217 --> 00:21:19,897 Speaker 1: agree with me. Obviously, this is a different audience than 405 00:21:19,937 --> 00:21:22,697 Speaker 1: going on Fox News or OutKick or whatever that might 406 00:21:22,737 --> 00:21:27,417 Speaker 1: look like. So I was excited for this. I get there, 407 00:21:27,617 --> 00:21:32,097 Speaker 1: I delivered my speech. The room was filled with both 408 00:21:32,137 --> 00:21:34,657 Speaker 1: protesters and supporters. It was about fifty to fifty in 409 00:21:34,697 --> 00:21:38,897 Speaker 1: the room. The protesters. There was of course some heckling 410 00:21:38,977 --> 00:21:42,017 Speaker 1: during the speech, but it was relatively civil. They were 411 00:21:42,017 --> 00:21:43,977 Speaker 1: able to ask questions. At the end. I answered all 412 00:21:44,017 --> 00:21:47,737 Speaker 1: their questions. But it was only after I finished my 413 00:21:47,777 --> 00:21:49,857 Speaker 1: speech in the Q and A when everyone got up 414 00:21:49,897 --> 00:21:53,457 Speaker 1: to leave and a mob of people entered into the 415 00:21:53,457 --> 00:21:56,417 Speaker 1: classroom from the hallway. They turned the lights out, they 416 00:21:56,417 --> 00:22:00,617 Speaker 1: flickered the lights, They rushed to the front of the room. 417 00:22:00,657 --> 00:22:03,457 Speaker 1: An officer who I had no idea an officer was 418 00:22:03,497 --> 00:22:05,737 Speaker 1: in the room. I was supposed to meet with the 419 00:22:05,737 --> 00:22:08,417 Speaker 1: campus police an hour and a half before the event 420 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:11,177 Speaker 1: to go over kind of a strategy if this were 421 00:22:11,217 --> 00:22:13,977 Speaker 1: to happen, but the police never showed up, so I 422 00:22:13,977 --> 00:22:15,977 Speaker 1: had no idea this was an officer because she was 423 00:22:16,017 --> 00:22:19,657 Speaker 1: an unmarked uniform. She had a mask covering her face, 424 00:22:19,777 --> 00:22:21,337 Speaker 1: nothing indicating she was an officer. 425 00:22:22,577 --> 00:22:24,697 Speaker 2: She was worried about she was worried about COVID. Had 426 00:22:24,737 --> 00:22:26,617 Speaker 2: to make sure she had COVID protection on this officer. 427 00:22:26,897 --> 00:22:29,377 Speaker 2: That's what you want there, exactly. That's really reassuring. 428 00:22:31,257 --> 00:22:33,097 Speaker 1: And so she grabs me and says, come with me, 429 00:22:33,177 --> 00:22:35,737 Speaker 1: I'm with the police, to which I did not believe her. 430 00:22:36,417 --> 00:22:38,457 Speaker 1: I was very reluctant to follow her, but I really 431 00:22:38,537 --> 00:22:40,377 Speaker 1: had no choice. And it was at this point when 432 00:22:41,617 --> 00:22:45,377 Speaker 1: both myself and other Turning Point members were being assaulted. 433 00:22:46,697 --> 00:22:49,057 Speaker 1: But ultimately we were able to leave the room. We 434 00:22:49,217 --> 00:22:51,497 Speaker 1: filtered into the hallway, to which we were only met 435 00:22:51,497 --> 00:22:55,377 Speaker 1: with more protesters filling the stair well. So this was 436 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,097 Speaker 1: on the third floor. There was no way we were 437 00:22:57,097 --> 00:23:01,017 Speaker 1: getting out, and so ultimately that's when we were. We 438 00:23:01,057 --> 00:23:03,777 Speaker 1: had to veer off into another room along that hallway, 439 00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:07,097 Speaker 1: which I was barricaded in for over three hours. In 440 00:23:07,137 --> 00:23:11,217 Speaker 1: these three hours, I missed my flight home. I could hear, 441 00:23:11,537 --> 00:23:17,217 Speaker 1: of course, these protesters yelling awful, terrible, violent, vengeful, hateful 442 00:23:17,297 --> 00:23:21,457 Speaker 1: things at both myself and the officers. They were using 443 00:23:21,577 --> 00:23:25,777 Speaker 1: terminologies such as you know, we fight back, or why 444 00:23:25,777 --> 00:23:27,897 Speaker 1: did you come here, you knew what you were getting 445 00:23:27,897 --> 00:23:30,777 Speaker 1: yourself into. Let her out so we can handle her, 446 00:23:32,657 --> 00:23:35,337 Speaker 1: they kept referring to or they kept telling the officers, 447 00:23:35,337 --> 00:23:38,017 Speaker 1: you know, you're only protecting her because she's white, which 448 00:23:38,057 --> 00:23:43,537 Speaker 1: I think is so silly. Oh my goodness. But there 449 00:23:43,577 --> 00:23:45,177 Speaker 1: was even a point when I was in this room 450 00:23:45,177 --> 00:23:49,217 Speaker 1: when I could hear these protesters negotiating money. They said, 451 00:23:49,257 --> 00:23:51,417 Speaker 1: if I wanted to make it home safely, I had 452 00:23:51,417 --> 00:23:55,177 Speaker 1: to pay them, personally each a certain amount of money. 453 00:23:55,177 --> 00:23:56,817 Speaker 1: If I wanted to make it home. They said, it's 454 00:23:56,817 --> 00:23:58,977 Speaker 1: only fair. You know, if our university's paying you to 455 00:23:59,017 --> 00:24:00,937 Speaker 1: be here, you have to pay us if you want 456 00:24:00,937 --> 00:24:03,777 Speaker 1: to leave, which the university did not pay me to 457 00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:06,657 Speaker 1: be there. But the din of Students was there and 458 00:24:06,697 --> 00:24:10,377 Speaker 1: he was genuinely negotiating with them, and I'm sitting behind 459 00:24:10,377 --> 00:24:12,537 Speaker 1: this door listening. I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't 460 00:24:12,577 --> 00:24:15,697 Speaker 1: believe they're actually negotiating if I get to make it 461 00:24:15,777 --> 00:24:21,737 Speaker 1: home safely. This is so crazy. So it was truly 462 00:24:21,777 --> 00:24:25,937 Speaker 1: it was unnerving, of course, But in those moments, when 463 00:24:26,697 --> 00:24:29,377 Speaker 1: there's fist waving in your face and the officers aren't 464 00:24:29,377 --> 00:24:33,097 Speaker 1: doing anything necessarily to protect you, you almost fear for 465 00:24:33,177 --> 00:24:37,017 Speaker 1: your life. It's like wow, hearing the things they were saying, 466 00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:38,617 Speaker 1: what they wanted to do to me, what they would 467 00:24:38,697 --> 00:24:40,617 Speaker 1: have done to me if we hadn't been separated by 468 00:24:40,617 --> 00:24:41,057 Speaker 1: that door. 469 00:24:43,897 --> 00:24:44,177 Speaker 2: Kill you. 470 00:24:45,297 --> 00:24:49,217 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they were definitely yelling obscene things again at 471 00:24:49,217 --> 00:24:54,337 Speaker 1: both myself and the officers, which is just it blows 472 00:24:54,377 --> 00:24:57,977 Speaker 1: my mind because after this, the administration released an email. 473 00:24:58,057 --> 00:25:02,337 Speaker 1: They sent an email to their student body saying they 474 00:25:02,337 --> 00:25:06,177 Speaker 1: were so proud of their students for for being so brave, 475 00:25:06,417 --> 00:25:10,777 Speaker 1: so very brave. They applauded their behavior and then continued 476 00:25:10,817 --> 00:25:14,897 Speaker 1: to go on to thank them for protesting so peacefully. 477 00:25:15,537 --> 00:25:17,097 Speaker 1: They know how hard it can be to listen to 478 00:25:17,137 --> 00:25:20,217 Speaker 1: someone who spread so much violence talking about myself. 479 00:25:20,577 --> 00:25:23,337 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're gonna get Obviously, communists loved, loved 480 00:25:23,377 --> 00:25:27,137 Speaker 2: the gaslight. I would want to ask you, though, there 481 00:25:27,217 --> 00:25:30,497 Speaker 2: must have been some like normal guys in the audience 482 00:25:30,497 --> 00:25:32,777 Speaker 2: that did any of them try to intervene and get 483 00:25:32,817 --> 00:25:36,017 Speaker 2: these I mean, I just can't imagine a girl, a 484 00:25:36,057 --> 00:25:39,617 Speaker 2: young woman there alone being threatened by a mob. There's 485 00:25:39,657 --> 00:25:42,337 Speaker 2: a lady police officer there who has a mask on, 486 00:25:42,457 --> 00:25:46,497 Speaker 2: so I'm not, you know, not exactly coming to us 487 00:25:46,497 --> 00:25:48,057 Speaker 2: from Seal Team six, if you know what I mean. 488 00:25:48,097 --> 00:25:50,057 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to be kidding me. I'm just 489 00:25:50,097 --> 00:25:54,577 Speaker 2: wondering if any of the guys in the room were like, hey, 490 00:25:54,697 --> 00:25:57,137 Speaker 2: you guys, come on, like, knock it off, or do 491 00:25:57,217 --> 00:25:59,217 Speaker 2: they just sit there not say anything. 492 00:26:00,497 --> 00:26:05,737 Speaker 1: Yeah? Really, there wasn't anyone who stepped in, which makes 493 00:26:05,737 --> 00:26:10,337 Speaker 1: you the question, Yeah, are the day of our society? 494 00:26:11,297 --> 00:26:15,097 Speaker 1: There was no one to really kind of step in 495 00:26:15,257 --> 00:26:18,337 Speaker 1: and ensure that these people did it rush to the 496 00:26:18,377 --> 00:26:20,777 Speaker 1: front of the room. Yeah. 497 00:26:20,937 --> 00:26:23,337 Speaker 2: No, sounds like there were, you know, more women in 498 00:26:23,377 --> 00:26:25,177 Speaker 2: that room than just the women. I mean, it sounds 499 00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:27,497 Speaker 2: like there was a lot of cowardice from some of 500 00:26:27,497 --> 00:26:31,097 Speaker 2: the men who should have understood that when a woman 501 00:26:31,217 --> 00:26:34,977 Speaker 2: is physically under threat, they should step forward and do 502 00:26:35,057 --> 00:26:38,057 Speaker 2: something about this. Were there male police officers present? 503 00:26:40,217 --> 00:26:43,737 Speaker 1: There were eventually, to my knowledge, I don't believe there 504 00:26:43,777 --> 00:26:46,137 Speaker 1: were any in the room when this happened. I was 505 00:26:46,217 --> 00:26:50,457 Speaker 1: very quickly in the hallway and met with male police officers. 506 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:54,377 Speaker 1: But even the male police officers didn't step up at 507 00:26:54,377 --> 00:26:56,777 Speaker 1: that time and do anything. 508 00:26:57,657 --> 00:27:00,057 Speaker 2: No, No, hey, I'm gonna pepper spray you guys. Let's 509 00:27:00,097 --> 00:27:02,297 Speaker 2: you back off. Nothing right, just sitting there like letting this, 510 00:27:03,017 --> 00:27:06,337 Speaker 2: letting the Marxist terrorists do their thing. I mean, it's 511 00:27:06,697 --> 00:27:08,657 Speaker 2: so abominable. I mean that they and by someone did 512 00:27:08,737 --> 00:27:11,497 Speaker 2: hit you, right, I mean someone actually physically assaulted you, 513 00:27:11,657 --> 00:27:12,017 Speaker 2: if I. 514 00:27:11,977 --> 00:27:15,897 Speaker 1: Recall, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're I'm in the process of 515 00:27:16,097 --> 00:27:19,257 Speaker 1: litigation and a police investigation, and so there's a lot 516 00:27:19,297 --> 00:27:21,377 Speaker 1: of stuff that they have kind of advised me not 517 00:27:21,537 --> 00:27:22,697 Speaker 1: to get. 518 00:27:22,497 --> 00:27:25,017 Speaker 2: Into specifics about. Sure, I understand that, but I mean, 519 00:27:25,097 --> 00:27:26,937 Speaker 2: if you were assaulted, you can say you were assaulted 520 00:27:26,977 --> 00:27:30,017 Speaker 2: obviously because the litigation will at least, you know, go 521 00:27:30,057 --> 00:27:32,257 Speaker 2: on the record with an assault. So there was a 522 00:27:32,297 --> 00:27:35,497 Speaker 2: physical assault against you. No one from the university reached 523 00:27:35,497 --> 00:27:38,617 Speaker 2: out to apologize, I assume or to you know, they 524 00:27:38,697 --> 00:27:40,097 Speaker 2: just don't care. Is that where this is? 525 00:27:41,337 --> 00:27:44,937 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? They have not by no means have they 526 00:27:44,937 --> 00:27:47,617 Speaker 1: condemned violence. By no means. Have they apologized to me. 527 00:27:47,777 --> 00:27:51,297 Speaker 1: By no means have they said anywhere that we uphold 528 00:27:51,337 --> 00:27:53,257 Speaker 1: the freedom of speech. No, none of that. 529 00:27:53,777 --> 00:27:55,137 Speaker 2: I want I want to ask you, what, Okay, so 530 00:27:55,337 --> 00:27:58,817 Speaker 2: a total debacle. The college should be absolutely or university 531 00:27:58,817 --> 00:28:01,097 Speaker 2: should be absolutely ashamed of itself. 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Call eight three to three four zero 557 00:29:10,777 --> 00:29:14,777 Speaker 2: four gold, eight three to three for zero four gold. 558 00:29:14,897 --> 00:29:17,137 Speaker 2: That's the Oxford Gold Group at eight three three four 559 00:29:17,257 --> 00:29:20,977 Speaker 2: zero four gold. Well, Riley, So you must have been 560 00:29:21,017 --> 00:29:23,617 Speaker 2: speaking at some other campuses. I assume that they're not 561 00:29:23,737 --> 00:29:28,417 Speaker 2: all just completely overrun with left wing brainwash psychopaths. So 562 00:29:28,657 --> 00:29:31,057 Speaker 2: what do you are you having a lot of young women, 563 00:29:31,097 --> 00:29:32,937 Speaker 2: for example, coming after you and saying, hey, thank you. 564 00:29:33,177 --> 00:29:35,577 Speaker 2: I like to play women's lacrosse, and I don't want 565 00:29:35,617 --> 00:29:37,697 Speaker 2: some guy tad to say he's Tina who weighs two 566 00:29:37,777 --> 00:29:39,737 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty pounds and like lay out all the 567 00:29:39,777 --> 00:29:41,177 Speaker 2: women on the field with his stick. 568 00:29:42,577 --> 00:29:47,857 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I am. I have had an influx of people, 569 00:29:48,417 --> 00:29:51,897 Speaker 1: especially females, even a lot of female athletes. I just 570 00:29:51,937 --> 00:29:54,017 Speaker 1: spook at Clemson where there was a lot of female 571 00:29:54,017 --> 00:29:57,097 Speaker 1: athletes in the room who were so curious about what 572 00:29:57,217 --> 00:29:59,817 Speaker 1: to do, how to have this conversation with their teams. 573 00:30:00,337 --> 00:30:01,937 Speaker 1: I just spoke at the University of Toledo and I 574 00:30:01,977 --> 00:30:04,337 Speaker 1: had a girl who came who spoke up actually on 575 00:30:04,377 --> 00:30:07,897 Speaker 1: the microphone on the question and answer your portion, and 576 00:30:07,977 --> 00:30:10,017 Speaker 1: she said, you know, I swam for the University of 577 00:30:10,457 --> 00:30:13,337 Speaker 1: and I also competed against Lea Thomas. And she confirmed, 578 00:30:13,417 --> 00:30:16,177 Speaker 1: of course everything that I was saying and shared her 579 00:30:16,177 --> 00:30:18,657 Speaker 1: perspective on how this has affected her and her teammates. 580 00:30:19,537 --> 00:30:22,257 Speaker 1: But that's that's a common theme. I'm seeing so many 581 00:30:23,297 --> 00:30:26,737 Speaker 1: females interested in this and intrigued and wanting to stick 582 00:30:26,817 --> 00:30:29,377 Speaker 1: up for themselves, but just not sure how to without 583 00:30:29,857 --> 00:30:34,337 Speaker 1: ruffling feathers or stepping on toes, which is inevitable at 584 00:30:34,337 --> 00:30:35,177 Speaker 1: this point. 585 00:30:35,737 --> 00:30:40,337 Speaker 2: Have any female athletes come to you and tried to 586 00:30:40,417 --> 00:30:43,177 Speaker 2: tell you that you just got to let this go. 587 00:30:43,377 --> 00:30:46,177 Speaker 2: The transagenda is too important. Like has that happened? 588 00:30:47,817 --> 00:30:50,177 Speaker 1: There has been some There have been some people who 589 00:30:50,217 --> 00:30:52,737 Speaker 1: are claiming, you know, I'm just doing this for fifteen 590 00:30:52,737 --> 00:30:55,577 Speaker 1: minutes of fame. I'm just doing this to get clicks 591 00:30:55,577 --> 00:30:58,577 Speaker 1: and likes. I know Representative Katie Porter the other day 592 00:30:58,617 --> 00:31:02,377 Speaker 1: when she was on with Peters Morgan and Bill maher Or, 593 00:31:02,417 --> 00:31:06,097 Speaker 1: she said that I was just doing this for my 594 00:31:06,177 --> 00:31:10,337 Speaker 1: own personal gain, which is so silly. This is not 595 00:31:10,377 --> 00:31:13,417 Speaker 1: about me By no means. Is this something that I'm trying 596 00:31:13,457 --> 00:31:16,617 Speaker 1: to advance myself personally for any ulterior motives, because again, 597 00:31:17,137 --> 00:31:20,537 Speaker 1: this was not my life goal to be in this 598 00:31:20,657 --> 00:31:23,617 Speaker 1: sphere by no means, and as the days go on, 599 00:31:23,697 --> 00:31:28,337 Speaker 1: I'm realizing it's really not my life goal. So there 600 00:31:28,377 --> 00:31:32,097 Speaker 1: have been people who don't believe my intentions are truly there. 601 00:31:32,097 --> 00:31:33,977 Speaker 2: But I'm curious. I mean, for forget about this. So 602 00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,817 Speaker 2: going after your intentions, by the way, that is that 603 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:40,177 Speaker 2: is calming nonsense, right, That's that's ad hominem attack, that's 604 00:31:40,217 --> 00:31:44,257 Speaker 2: not actually engaging. I'm wondering if any you know, woman 605 00:31:44,297 --> 00:31:48,377 Speaker 2: who has competed, either currently or recently at any level 606 00:31:48,417 --> 00:31:50,697 Speaker 2: the NC double A is coming up to you and 607 00:31:51,297 --> 00:31:54,377 Speaker 2: earnestly telling you not because they're putting it about to 608 00:31:54,377 --> 00:31:56,577 Speaker 2: put it on their TikTok channel, but just wants to say, 609 00:31:56,857 --> 00:31:58,337 Speaker 2: you know, I really think that we should have guys 610 00:31:58,377 --> 00:32:01,817 Speaker 2: competing against us because they don't have an advantage, because 611 00:32:01,817 --> 00:32:04,977 Speaker 2: that's the media narrative, as you well know, is that 612 00:32:04,977 --> 00:32:07,777 Speaker 2: that they're just they're saying the most obvious lies. I'm 613 00:32:07,777 --> 00:32:09,897 Speaker 2: wondering if anyone presents you with the lie or if 614 00:32:09,897 --> 00:32:12,217 Speaker 2: they just attack you you know, they're. 615 00:32:12,057 --> 00:32:16,257 Speaker 1: They're just that's not happening. That's not happening by any means, 616 00:32:17,577 --> 00:32:20,577 Speaker 1: at any level, grassroot level and through. There's no one 617 00:32:20,577 --> 00:32:23,897 Speaker 1: who's coming directly to me and saying men have no 618 00:32:23,977 --> 00:32:27,977 Speaker 1: advantage testosterone suppression. For a year, it clears men of 619 00:32:28,017 --> 00:32:30,097 Speaker 1: all of the advantages. No, that's not happening. 620 00:32:31,137 --> 00:32:33,257 Speaker 2: So so it's fascinating, isn't it, Because you're you're out 621 00:32:33,297 --> 00:32:36,097 Speaker 2: there making an argument, and what you're establishing here is 622 00:32:36,137 --> 00:32:40,217 Speaker 2: that nobody will actually meet you on the plane of 623 00:32:40,257 --> 00:32:43,657 Speaker 2: this argument and make the case that you're wrong. They 624 00:32:43,777 --> 00:32:47,257 Speaker 2: just say it's just slogans and name calling and shouting. 625 00:32:48,457 --> 00:32:53,857 Speaker 2: Have you have you ever read Uh, there's a French author, 626 00:32:53,857 --> 00:32:56,377 Speaker 2: philosopher Gustav Lebon. You know what I'm talking about here. 627 00:32:56,417 --> 00:32:59,057 Speaker 2: He wrote a book called The Crowd about that. It's 628 00:32:59,057 --> 00:33:01,777 Speaker 2: effectively about how crowd. I think you would, especially what 629 00:33:01,817 --> 00:33:04,697 Speaker 2: you've been through. It's it's not it's pretty short accessible. 630 00:33:04,737 --> 00:33:06,257 Speaker 2: It's not like I'm you know, saying, go read this 631 00:33:06,297 --> 00:33:09,097 Speaker 2: thousand george book written by an old French guy. You 632 00:33:09,177 --> 00:33:10,857 Speaker 2: might you know this is I think he wrote it 633 00:33:11,137 --> 00:33:13,937 Speaker 2: nineteenth century, but you might find it really interesting. Raley 634 00:33:14,017 --> 00:33:17,417 Speaker 2: just because that. Yeah, Well, because it's all about when 635 00:33:17,457 --> 00:33:18,857 Speaker 2: you get people into a mob, what do they do. 636 00:33:18,897 --> 00:33:21,657 Speaker 2: They shout, they shout, they're angry, there's rape, they don't think, 637 00:33:22,497 --> 00:33:26,417 Speaker 2: they don't actually stop and process. It's all about the emotion, 638 00:33:26,657 --> 00:33:33,457 Speaker 2: the energy, and the psychological sublimation, if you will, or 639 00:33:33,577 --> 00:33:39,937 Speaker 2: the psychological submission to the collective the mob, and that's 640 00:33:39,977 --> 00:33:40,897 Speaker 2: what you're up against. 641 00:33:42,137 --> 00:33:46,417 Speaker 1: And truthfully, in my experience at San Francisco, San Francisco, 642 00:33:46,457 --> 00:33:49,217 Speaker 1: that was made evident to me when they were trying 643 00:33:49,217 --> 00:33:50,937 Speaker 1: to say I had to pay them if I wanted 644 00:33:50,977 --> 00:33:54,297 Speaker 1: to leave. I'm sitting there thinking, you don't really care 645 00:33:54,337 --> 00:33:57,137 Speaker 1: about what I'm here to talk about. You don't care 646 00:33:57,217 --> 00:34:01,897 Speaker 1: about what you're protesting, you don't even know what you're protesting. 647 00:34:03,017 --> 00:34:06,577 Speaker 1: You just want to gain something from this, If that 648 00:34:06,657 --> 00:34:11,617 Speaker 1: makes sense. It's just wild. It's totally a mom and 649 00:34:11,657 --> 00:34:13,657 Speaker 1: I would be very interested in reading that book. 650 00:34:14,577 --> 00:34:16,737 Speaker 2: I mean, I also it's amazing. You know, I think 651 00:34:16,737 --> 00:34:20,737 Speaker 2: you probably saw, you know, Rapino, the female soccer player 652 00:34:20,777 --> 00:34:23,337 Speaker 2: if the US national team came out recently, and like 653 00:34:23,337 --> 00:34:24,657 Speaker 2: I hate to break it to her, like I was 654 00:34:24,697 --> 00:34:27,977 Speaker 2: like a like a third tier men's high school soccer player. 655 00:34:28,017 --> 00:34:31,817 Speaker 2: I would throw her around a soccer field still, even 656 00:34:31,857 --> 00:34:34,017 Speaker 2: though I'm even though I'm a desk guy sitting behind 657 00:34:34,057 --> 00:34:37,497 Speaker 2: a microphone, like it's ridiculous, But she's like, oh god, 658 00:34:37,577 --> 00:34:40,137 Speaker 2: this is great. Like men don't have an advantage. You know, 659 00:34:40,217 --> 00:34:43,057 Speaker 2: weekend warriors with beer guts who played some high school 660 00:34:43,097 --> 00:34:48,257 Speaker 2: athletics would beat, would beat professional women's soccer. This is like, 661 00:34:48,737 --> 00:34:51,137 Speaker 2: this isn't you know, swimming a little bit different just 662 00:34:51,177 --> 00:34:53,257 Speaker 2: because you know, the guys actually have to be pretty decent. 663 00:34:53,257 --> 00:34:55,777 Speaker 2: It's swimming, but you can kind of muscle women around 664 00:34:55,777 --> 00:34:57,457 Speaker 2: in some of these other sports. It's just crazy to me, 665 00:34:57,537 --> 00:34:59,577 Speaker 2: like she's obviously doing it for the money, but no 666 00:34:59,577 --> 00:35:01,457 Speaker 2: one actually attacks her for that, right, No one ever 667 00:35:01,497 --> 00:35:03,577 Speaker 2: says Megan Rapino just wants to be relevant, so she 668 00:35:03,617 --> 00:35:04,977 Speaker 2: says things she knows are untrue. 669 00:35:06,057 --> 00:35:08,977 Speaker 1: Right, right, And it's important to mention that she's done playing. 670 00:35:09,417 --> 00:35:12,737 Speaker 1: If you've ever s see Megan Rapina play, you know 671 00:35:12,857 --> 00:35:16,097 Speaker 1: she's an aggressive player. You know that she would probably 672 00:35:16,497 --> 00:35:18,897 Speaker 1: if a male took her spot. And this is I've 673 00:35:18,897 --> 00:35:21,937 Speaker 1: had conversations with people who know her at the Olympic Committee, 674 00:35:22,577 --> 00:35:25,737 Speaker 1: some of her personal friends even, who have said if 675 00:35:25,737 --> 00:35:28,857 Speaker 1: someone threatened her spot on that national team, it would 676 00:35:28,857 --> 00:35:32,897 Speaker 1: be game over for them, which is interesting and I 677 00:35:33,017 --> 00:35:35,217 Speaker 1: one to also mentioned she doesn't have a daughter, she 678 00:35:35,257 --> 00:35:39,297 Speaker 1: doesn't have anyone to defend. Therefore, for her, she would 679 00:35:39,377 --> 00:35:41,697 Speaker 1: rather virtue signals. She would rather be seen as someone 680 00:35:41,697 --> 00:35:44,817 Speaker 1: who's kind, which is ironic because she fought for women's 681 00:35:45,217 --> 00:35:49,097 Speaker 1: equal pay, equal access, equal resources when it comes to sports, 682 00:35:49,497 --> 00:35:51,777 Speaker 1: and now she's doing the exact opposite by fighting for 683 00:35:51,857 --> 00:35:52,617 Speaker 1: male inclusion. 684 00:35:52,777 --> 00:35:55,177 Speaker 2: We'll come back here in just a second, because you guys, 685 00:35:55,217 --> 00:35:56,577 Speaker 2: you got to have life insurance. You know, I just 686 00:35:56,617 --> 00:35:58,777 Speaker 2: got married a few months ago, and it is absolutely 687 00:35:58,817 --> 00:36:02,457 Speaker 2: critical because the right insurance playing gives you peace of 688 00:36:02,457 --> 00:36:04,617 Speaker 2: mind if something were to happen to you. 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You know, I can go out there, 717 00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:24,337 Speaker 2: and you know Matt Walsh, who's great on on these 718 00:37:24,337 --> 00:37:27,137 Speaker 2: issues in his documentary obviously was really eye opening for 719 00:37:27,217 --> 00:37:30,017 Speaker 2: people can go out there, but we're guys, right, we're 720 00:37:30,017 --> 00:37:32,097 Speaker 2: normal guys. We haven't thrown our hair out and say that. 721 00:37:32,137 --> 00:37:33,937 Speaker 2: You know, my name is not actually Susan now and 722 00:37:33,977 --> 00:37:35,577 Speaker 2: you have to call me a woman. Right, we're guys. 723 00:37:36,017 --> 00:37:38,177 Speaker 2: And they also say, why do you you've probably come 724 00:37:38,217 --> 00:37:40,777 Speaker 2: across or you know you've seen this argument. Why do 725 00:37:40,817 --> 00:37:42,777 Speaker 2: you make such a big deal of this? They always say, 726 00:37:42,857 --> 00:37:44,297 Speaker 2: why do you make such a big deal of this? 727 00:37:44,577 --> 00:37:47,457 Speaker 2: It's not happening that often. Why are you so focused 728 00:37:47,497 --> 00:37:49,657 Speaker 2: on this? This is all gaslighting that the commedies do. 729 00:37:50,817 --> 00:37:54,337 Speaker 2: But you have actually suffered injury, right, Like if this 730 00:37:54,617 --> 00:37:57,057 Speaker 2: was a court of law, they'd say, well, what are 731 00:37:57,057 --> 00:38:00,217 Speaker 2: the damages. The damage is that you had a gold 732 00:38:00,417 --> 00:38:03,257 Speaker 2: ncaa metal stolen from you by somebody who has a 733 00:38:03,257 --> 00:38:07,737 Speaker 2: psychiatric disorder. That's the dam There's real damage here, right. 734 00:38:08,177 --> 00:38:12,177 Speaker 1: And I could list sample after hundreds of examples truthfully 735 00:38:12,217 --> 00:38:14,497 Speaker 1: off the top of my head of women losing out 736 00:38:14,537 --> 00:38:18,017 Speaker 1: on opportunities. So to sit there and believe the lies, 737 00:38:18,177 --> 00:38:21,777 Speaker 1: the narrative that it's not happening. They're just saying that 738 00:38:21,817 --> 00:38:25,217 Speaker 1: because they don't think women are worthy of protection, worthy 739 00:38:25,257 --> 00:38:29,097 Speaker 1: of fair opportunities. We're not worthy of safety in our sports, 740 00:38:29,817 --> 00:38:34,817 Speaker 1: privacy in our locker rooms. It's listening, especially with the 741 00:38:34,897 --> 00:38:39,017 Speaker 1: US House of Representatives last week, not one Democrat voted 742 00:38:39,057 --> 00:38:42,617 Speaker 1: in favor of protecting women and girls in sports. But 743 00:38:42,817 --> 00:38:47,297 Speaker 1: listening to their arguments their opposition to the bill, it 744 00:38:47,337 --> 00:38:50,097 Speaker 1: was mind blowing the amount of lies that I heard, 745 00:38:50,657 --> 00:38:52,297 Speaker 1: The amount of people who said, this is a bill 746 00:38:52,337 --> 00:38:55,497 Speaker 1: that bans trans athletes from competing, This is a bill 747 00:38:55,617 --> 00:39:00,697 Speaker 1: that would force trans youth to undergo extensive, invasive medical 748 00:39:00,737 --> 00:39:05,817 Speaker 1: examinations where their genitals are checked. These are lies and 749 00:39:05,897 --> 00:39:09,097 Speaker 1: they're getting away with lying. And the general public might 750 00:39:09,137 --> 00:39:12,657 Speaker 1: not understand the extent of the bill and what it 751 00:39:12,737 --> 00:39:16,737 Speaker 1: really means. But these Democrats that are lying straight through 752 00:39:16,777 --> 00:39:17,377 Speaker 1: their mouths. 753 00:39:18,217 --> 00:39:20,377 Speaker 2: Riley Gains, I want you to tell everybody what are 754 00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:24,017 Speaker 2: you planning more speeches? What's next for you? And how 755 00:39:24,017 --> 00:39:27,137 Speaker 2: can people continue to support your work, follow follow what 756 00:39:27,257 --> 00:39:28,297 Speaker 2: your your messages. 757 00:39:29,537 --> 00:39:32,777 Speaker 1: Absolutely what's next for me is I'm going to continue 758 00:39:32,977 --> 00:39:35,577 Speaker 1: at both the state and federal level, fighting for this, 759 00:39:35,777 --> 00:39:39,017 Speaker 1: fighting to protect women and girls of all ages at 760 00:39:39,017 --> 00:39:42,217 Speaker 1: the state level, and fighting to uphold Title MIND at 761 00:39:42,217 --> 00:39:45,297 Speaker 1: the federal level. And I'm going to continue speaking to colleges, 762 00:39:45,937 --> 00:39:51,017 Speaker 1: engaging the younger generation my generation, and encouraging people to 763 00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:56,017 Speaker 1: come into conversation with open minds and open and be 764 00:39:56,097 --> 00:39:58,617 Speaker 1: willing to have their eyes opened in mind to change. 765 00:39:59,657 --> 00:40:01,377 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what's next for me. Where you 766 00:40:01,377 --> 00:40:04,857 Speaker 1: can follow me is on Twitter at Riley Underscore gains Underscore. 767 00:40:06,497 --> 00:40:08,817 Speaker 1: There are two underscores because my first Twitter was in 768 00:40:08,857 --> 00:40:12,777 Speaker 1: fact deleted. But I try to post breaking stories of 769 00:40:12,817 --> 00:40:17,457 Speaker 1: this happening, highlighting politicians who are reacting to this in 770 00:40:17,497 --> 00:40:18,857 Speaker 1: both good and bad ways. 771 00:40:19,297 --> 00:40:21,297 Speaker 2: Have you been banned from it Instagram? By the way, 772 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,097 Speaker 2: for I just got hit for something COVID COVID related 773 00:40:24,137 --> 00:40:25,737 Speaker 2: a week ago on Instagram by guys. 774 00:40:25,977 --> 00:40:29,057 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh. No, my Instagram is intact, but 775 00:40:30,457 --> 00:40:32,577 Speaker 1: I try to keep Instagram more more. 776 00:40:33,017 --> 00:40:36,137 Speaker 2: Not not for politics. I'm just wondering because Facebook, Facebook, 777 00:40:36,137 --> 00:40:38,697 Speaker 2: and and instagramm are are on some of these issues whole. 778 00:40:38,697 --> 00:40:41,017 Speaker 2: I mean, Twitter obviously is good now because of Elan, 779 00:40:41,057 --> 00:40:43,257 Speaker 2: but they they're horrible on those things. Can I ask 780 00:40:43,257 --> 00:40:44,937 Speaker 2: you a random question before we let you we let 781 00:40:44,977 --> 00:40:47,257 Speaker 2: you sign off. This is just a general h Jenner 782 00:40:47,257 --> 00:40:49,697 Speaker 2: information for the audience. You might have seen I don't 783 00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:51,657 Speaker 2: know if you've seen this, and don't tell anybody, but 784 00:40:51,697 --> 00:40:53,857 Speaker 2: occasionally I look at TikTok. I'm not supposed to be 785 00:40:54,017 --> 00:40:56,177 Speaker 2: I'm a conservative, but TikTok can be kind of engaging. 786 00:40:56,217 --> 00:40:57,977 Speaker 2: I've learned how to cook really good stakes Like there's 787 00:40:58,017 --> 00:41:01,777 Speaker 2: some good stuff on there totally and there's a uh, 788 00:41:01,817 --> 00:41:04,057 Speaker 2: there's this debate that I've seen a few times between 789 00:41:04,057 --> 00:41:06,577 Speaker 2: people who are like, oh, like, I'm just a swimmer, 790 00:41:06,617 --> 00:41:08,537 Speaker 2: and so now I've gotten like in such good shape 791 00:41:08,537 --> 00:41:11,497 Speaker 2: from swimming, and then all the so like that guy 792 00:41:11,737 --> 00:41:14,097 Speaker 2: or gal doesn't look like that just from swimming. That's 793 00:41:14,137 --> 00:41:17,537 Speaker 2: the weight room plus swimming. If someone told you they 794 00:41:17,577 --> 00:41:20,817 Speaker 2: wanted to get into like phenomenal shait lose weight, change 795 00:41:20,857 --> 00:41:24,217 Speaker 2: body mass, and get really strong, and they were just 796 00:41:24,337 --> 00:41:26,217 Speaker 2: going to be in a pool, not going to do 797 00:41:26,297 --> 00:41:28,977 Speaker 2: any weights, is it possible or is that is that 798 00:41:29,017 --> 00:41:29,737 Speaker 2: wishful thinking? 799 00:41:30,857 --> 00:41:34,617 Speaker 1: No, it's totally possible. Oh, I will say I will 800 00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:37,817 Speaker 1: say that in my experience in college, we lift weights, 801 00:41:37,817 --> 00:41:41,457 Speaker 1: but it's it's not anything heavy. We don't require heavy 802 00:41:41,497 --> 00:41:45,097 Speaker 1: lifting in our sport, right And I even still to 803 00:41:45,177 --> 00:41:47,897 Speaker 1: this day have like a six pack of abs that 804 00:41:48,017 --> 00:41:52,417 Speaker 1: just won't seem to go away. So it's definitely from swimming. Yeah, 805 00:41:52,457 --> 00:41:55,617 Speaker 1: for sure. I think it's a way where it's obviously 806 00:41:55,657 --> 00:41:57,297 Speaker 1: a lot of cardios, so you're not going to get 807 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,897 Speaker 1: super bulky, but it's definitely a way to lean up 808 00:41:59,937 --> 00:42:01,297 Speaker 1: and gain some muscle mass. 809 00:42:01,697 --> 00:42:04,457 Speaker 2: I will like discreetly weigh in with some of the 810 00:42:04,497 --> 00:42:06,977 Speaker 2: TikTok bros and be like I was told by somebody 811 00:42:06,977 --> 00:42:09,537 Speaker 2: who would know that, ye, swimming is enough. You don't 812 00:42:09,577 --> 00:42:11,897 Speaker 2: actually have to be deadlifting and swimming if you want 813 00:42:11,897 --> 00:42:14,617 Speaker 2: to if you want to lean out. So good to know, Riley. Thanks, 814 00:42:14,657 --> 00:42:16,777 Speaker 2: thanks so much for hanging out with us. Appreciate it, 815 00:42:17,697 --> 00:42:18,217 Speaker 2: of course. 816 00:42:18,337 --> 00:42:18,977 Speaker 1: Thank you. Buck