WEBVTT - How U.S. Marshals Work 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:07.560 It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff You Should Know? 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:17.160 From houseff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.840 I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, which makes 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.880 this Stuff you should Know? Um, and we were about 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.640 to present part eighty in our series on law enforcement agencies. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.639 Pretty soon we're going to just start profiling like X 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.280 cops and stuff like that. Dude, we we still haven't 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.440 done a t F for CIA or ADI. The CIA 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.840 article leaves a lot Not'm sure it needs some stuff. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:42.880 So we're gonna do that week when we have extra 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.760 time to do a lot more research. Okay, well today 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.400 we're talking about the U. S. Marshals. That's right, So, Chuck, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.720 have you ever seen the movie The Fugitive? I have? Well, 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.920 then we don't need to do this episode. Why is it? 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.240 That's it? It's the most accurate trail of the U. S. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:07.480 Marshall ever created by man Tommy Lee Jones. Yes, he 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.600 was good in that. I'm a big fan. Yeah, I know, 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:11.959 he was great. It's really tough to go wrong with 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.480 Tommy Lee Jones. What was he in was he in 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.080 No Country for Old Man? And he's the last lines 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.360 and stuff like that. Yeah. He actually, if you've read 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.800 the book, is the main character is pretty much his character. 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.319 That's why when you see the movie and oh gosh, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.480 I hate the spoilers spoiler alert when you see the 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:36.960 movie and and what's his face dies? H, have your 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.360 bar down now that the what you think is the 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.520 main character? Yes, uh, what's his face from the game 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.160 Josh Brolin Josh Roland in the movie, it's kind of like, wait, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.600 he just kind of unceremoniously died and they didn't make 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.840 a big deal about it. Remember in the movie, but 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.000 if you read the book, he's not really the main character, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.680 so it sort of makes more sense. Anyway. I love 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.880 the Coen Brothers, so they know what they're doing. God 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:03.800 the best. But again, Tommy Lee Jones, this is the 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:08.280 how Tommy Lee Jones works episode and he's a class act. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:12.680 And chuck the we're talking about the Federal Marshals. Really 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:17.000 I was joking about Tommy Lee. Um, did you know 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.119 that they are the oldest law enforcement agency in the land. Yeah, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.120 and most versatile they claim, Yeah, very proud of that fact. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.919 They do a lot of stuff they really do. Um, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.400 and in a lot of ways, they're very unsung. They 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.200 have a very long history. They were first created in 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.160 nine the first time Congress met, the Marshal Service was 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.000 literally created. Um. And they've had their highs and their 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.720 loves and the two hundred and twenty five years since 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:49.440 George Washington appointed the first thirteen marshals. That is very 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:54.760 cool right out of the gate. And Uh, basically they 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.680 set up the federal courts and they said, wow, we 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.760 need some people to kind of protect the courts. We 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:06.119 need some people that crack some heads. U S. Marshals done. Yeah, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.720 And um, apparently as far as like law enforcement agencies 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.600 in the US goes, the federal marshals have kind of 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.760 had the short end of the stick traditionally. Um, especially 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.320 early on in the country's history when states rights wasn't 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.519 just relegated to like you know, you know, it was 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:30.240 a big deal that everybody right. UM, So you you 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:34.240 had this guy who was sometimes the only law enforcement 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.280 official in the entire land in your whole area, and 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.240 he's trying to shove federal laws down your throat when 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.160 you're all about states rights. And that was pretty much 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:50.520 the the the beginning of the Marshal Service was basically 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.440 being at odds with their friends and neighbors about the 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.160 stuff that they were doing. A lot of times it 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.440 was stuff that proved to be unconstitutional, like the Alien 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.640 and Sedition Act. Remember our buddy Eugene Debs who ran 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.680 for president and got a million votes from jail here 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:09.040 in Atlanta, the Socialists, He was jailed for the Alien 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.840 and Sedition Act. Yeah, I remember, Like you couldn't even 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.080 speak against the government publicly or else. It was considered 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.640 treason around World War One. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, Marcel's had 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.720 to arrest people like Eugene Debs for that kind of stuff. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.520 So there have been plenty of points in the history 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.839 of this agency where like they haven't had to do 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:32.119 very good stuff, and uh, they've suffered for it. Yeah. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.920 And the grabster Ed Grabanowski, who wrote this as well 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.880 as many other cool articles that we podcast on, pointed 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.880 out that the Civil War, or not the Civil War, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.919 but slavery was kind of a contentious point because in 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:51.240 the South they had to enforce a slave trade bands 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.000 on slave imports, and then in the North they had 0:04:55.040 --> 0:05:01.000 to prosecute people fugitives on the run and northern abligious 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.320 from like and in the South there like so camp 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.640 bring in our slaves. So yeah, the and the marshals 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.520 were like, man, no one likes me anywhere, I'm gonna 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.560 go out west. And they were liked in the West 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.760 in a lot of places. Probably yes, because literally out 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:22.560 west it was lawless in many many respects. And literally 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.120 and figuratively, there would be a marshal out there, and 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.080 the marshal is as you would see, just some guy 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.479 like sitting in an office in some boom town, right 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.039 like bat Masterson and that's it. Uh, And then he 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.120 would deputize the posse. That's extremely accurate. There's a there 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.359 would be a marshal out there, and if you needed 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.880 some extra help, you could grab some law abiding citizens 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.159 who had guns and say you're now an official of 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.839 the US government and you have to come crack heads 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.600 with me. Um. That's really how it happened. But yes, 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.279 like you said, in in situations like that, most of 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.080 the law abiding people are the people who are just 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.599 trying to mind some gold and leaving other people alone. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.880 They were very happy that there was a marshal there. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.800 Yea a little order for a change, right so there's 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.040 like a little uptick in a marshal appreciation in the 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.000 nineteenth century, the second half of it out West. Yeah, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.080 that's kind of their heyday two from what I gather 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.440 if you don't count now. And I actually found too 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.120 that a lot of states still have a posse. But 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.760 it's like, you know, the Arkansas U. S. Marshall Posse, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.240 and it's just the organization that helps to raise awareness 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.480 and stuff. It's like the p b A. Yeah, they'll 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.080 go around to schools and stuff like that. That's the 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:35.920 Marshal's Posse. Wow, it's very valuable job they do. Josh, well, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.120 there's remember there's the posse Coomatatas Act that prevents posses, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.800 doesn't it. I never heard of that. Yeah, we talked 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.280 about in the Delta Force episode. It's like it's it's 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:50.719 the law that prevents Delta Force from operating in the US. Ostensibly. Well, 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.000 in these days, you try to get a posse together 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:59.320 and people like dude, I'm watching Lost Boys come on nice. Uh. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.039 Twenties century, early twentieth century, they were pretty close to 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.760 obscurity because um, they had a reputation for being fat, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.200 lazy retired cops. Demoided grabbing. Owski puts it, I love 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.280 that that word. Dumb fat retired cops. Yeah, basically the 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.400 the UM. I don't know what led to that, but 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.600 they just kind of lost their their shape and um, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.760 everybody knew it too. And then the respect for the 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.880 marshal service went down tremendously like that. It sounds like 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.960 it was a place where old cops go to die 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.760 or to retire. Um and uh. And then a guy 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.360 came along in the the ninety nine. His name is Frank Murphy, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.520 and he became Attorney General of the United States, and 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.200 he said, you're gonna stop being so pudgy, c you. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:45.920 We're gonna get you to work out. You're gonna be 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.680 good at arresting criminals. C. They said, whatever you say, Murphy. Yeah, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.040 and that was that. Yeah, and they started taking shape again, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.480 literally and figuratively, I guess. And uh, you know, throughout 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.000 the twentieth century made their aim for doing such brave 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:06.000 things like escorting black students to school during segregation. Those 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.920 were marshals when you see that famous picture. Um, although 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.320 I think some of them are National Guard as well. No, 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.880 the National Guard were ordered out by racist governors to 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:20.960 block the coming in and the Marshals odds with the 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:25.360 National Guard. Yeah, National Guards state. I feel like a dummy. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.160 I don't, okay, I mean it just makes sense, you know, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.240 like that, Well, the National Guard's gonna be out there protection. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.079 No, no no, no, that's a big black eye on the 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.000 state of Alabama in particular and Mississippi. It's true. They 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.199 also um kind of mix it up with anti war 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.920 protesters during Vietnam and basically made more of a name 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:48.280 for themselves as the twentieth century advanced as hippie beaters. Yeah, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.360 that's true. Uh so what what do they do though? 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.200 And also I just want to point out I don't 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.439 advocate the beating of hippies, and if you're gonna send 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.000 me an email, go back and listen to the whole 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:03.120 catalog first. Okay, except hippie Rob he deserves a good 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:07.920 beat down, but not really, not really, um so chuck. Finally, 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.080 we arrived to current day. As far as when this 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.160 article was written two thousand seven, and at a place 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.560 called Fort Smith, Arkansas, you will find the um National 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.800 Museum of the U. S. Marshals. Still to this day, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.640 it's there four years later. I did not know that, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.880 and they changed their their badge too. Used to be 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:32.199 a six point in star. Oh is it? It's five? Okay? 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.800 So okay, it did start out to being a six 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.200 silver star in a circle. Okay, so now it's a 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.280 five pointed star in a circle. But apparently up until 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.560 ninety one, so there's ninety four districts that UM coincide 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.840 with judicial districts federal judicial districts that Marshall served, and 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:53.480 every district was in charge of creating its own badge 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.560 until nineteen forty one when they standardized it. And each 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.480 district only has one marshal official marshal. The rest are 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.079 like deputies and things like that. Right, there's like about 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:09.280 four thousand deputies in ninety four marshals working that UM 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.200 three thousand. I saw that it said on their website 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.360 three thousand, nine hundred approximately three thousand, nine hundred and fifty, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.680 and I was like, you know, we don't round up 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.760 the four thousand anymore when we hit that. Well, it's 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.800 better than having a ticker that's like takes one down 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.800 every time someone dies in the line of two up 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.480 one when one's born. Yeah, that's true, or a new 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.200 hire right, all right, So chuck Um, you said that 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.079 the Marshal services pretty versatile and for good reason. They 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:42.600 have UM at least four main areas of operation UM 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.559 and probably the best known one thanks to Mr Tommy 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:50.200 Lee Jones, the class act UM is catching fugitives, and 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.800 not just federal fugitives. They also support UM state and 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.679 local law enforcement groups in catching their fugitives too, So 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.080 the marshals are basically just big show offs. I got 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.480 a couple of stats here, Josh, Uh in two thousand ten, 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.120 I'm just gonna pepper your information with stats about that. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.040 In two thousand ten they arrested more than eighty one thousand, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.679 nine hundred state and local fugitives. That's when they're helping 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.280 everyone out. It was eighty nine thousand, nine hundred one 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.040 and UH. As far as federal federal fugitives, they arrested 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:26.000 more than thirty six thousand in two thousand ten alone. 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.120 That's a huge up tick in because state and local 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.640 because in two thousand seven in the article its sites 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.640 forty six thousand, eight hundred state and local fugitives, so 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:39.319 that's close to double. Yeah. Yeah, good work. Yes, well, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.280 part of that was operating from Falcon Yeah, that was 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.960 mainly to UH, to nab unregistered sex offenders. Right, it 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.280 depends like it's it's it's a fugitive capture operation um 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:53.160 and in two thousand seven they were up to the 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.760 end of phase three. UM and I think each phase 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.760 would be a different part of the country and then 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.880 maybe a different emphasis. So Falcon three in two thousand 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.040 seven was launched to catch people who are supposed to 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.760 register as sex offenders but never did, making them fugitives 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.640 in the Eastern US and it nabbed ten thousand, seven 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:17.560 hundred and thirty three felons, sex offenders, the people we 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.360 do not want on the street, just a few, and 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.839 gang members more than gang members. And I think that's 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.520 a part of Operation Falcon right, I believe gang stuff, Yeah, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:34.280 because ICE is responsible for um immigration. So although the 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.559 Marshall Service have four outposts Mexico, Jamaica and a couple 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.320 other places in the Caribbean, Yeah, Colombia and Dominican Republic, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.839 I think that's all drug related. That's just a guess. Yeah, 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.480 But um so they would and they do arrest people 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.840 in those countries. Um One of the guys on their 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:58.199 most wanted list was arrested in Mexico. Um So they 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.000 can operate outside of the country, but they wouldn't. They 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.200 wouldn't have anything to do with immigration. Although I can't 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.120 see them not working with Ice. They might. Yeah, it 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.560 seems like they will work with whoever asked for their help. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:10.880 You know, they're like, sure, we can send a team 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.000 down there. Um. One of the other big aspects of 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:20.439 their job is prisoner transport because they're they're in charge of, um, 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.480 basically looking over the court system, the federal court system, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.360 anything that has to do with protecting a courtroom, transporting 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:31.079 a prisoner, the keeping the security aspect of the federal 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.920 judicial system functioning. That's what they do. And a big 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.440 part of that is shuffling prisoners from place to place. Yeah, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.280 and they do that via the Justice, Prisoner and Alien 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:47.760 Transportation System. And that is literally their own bus line, airline, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.960 van line, whatever they need. If you've seen them pretty 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.679 bad movie con Air that was those were marshals and uh, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.560 every day they have sixty three thousand, roughly sixty three 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:03.400 thousand prisoners custody and then they transport these dudes and 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.080 ladies I guess, all over the all over the place 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:11.320 on planes. Yeah. Um, no beverage service and I'll bet not, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.000 and I'll bet those um like the stuff on the 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:18.080 seatbacks where you rest your head. Yes, haven't been watched 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.520 in a while. No in flight movie. Yeah, it's no frills, 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.960 exactly what it is. Uh, if you want to see 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:30.680 a very frill laden aircraft, you should see Airport. I 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.000 think the third one, did you watch that recently? Has awesome? 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.080 You know what I watched the other day, Towering Inferno. 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.800 I've got the in my instant que It's pretty good, man. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.760 I gotta say like it holds. It's way too long. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:45.560 First of all, it's like two and a half hours long, 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.280 and it didn't need to be, Like they should have 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.240 cut out a lot of the plot points. But as 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.840 far as just like, uh, oh my god, what's gonna happen? 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.760 It was pretty big ranks still suspense. Yeah, that's that's 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.560 the word. Yeah it is. It's among it's among the 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.840 best of the seventies disaster flicks. Right. Yeah, and you 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.680 got Paul Newman and Steve McQueen in the same movie. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.600 That's just off the tough guy meter. Yeah. Well, I 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.600 I didn't have my full attention last night, so I 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.280 didn't watch that. Instead. I punished me and you meet 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.880 with Beyond the Poseidon Adventure. That's so funny. We're on 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.760 this kick of old disaster. It's weird. Unbeknownst. Yeah, I 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:29.360 had no idea until just this moment. Towering Airports seventy eight. Um, so, chuck, 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.560 I think it's seventy eight. There's also seventies seven. Yeah, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:38.480 there's a few seventy seventy seven. I think it's seventy seven. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:42.240 It's the one where Jimmy Stewart owns a luxury airliner 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.960 is flying these people who end up beneath the surface 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:47.600 of the Atlantic in the Bermuda Triangle. Okay, and you 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.680 know who wasn't towering in front of Fredi Stair? Yeah, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.080 when his last movie and he actually there's one small 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.400 Sceneri's dancing and my eyes were just like, oh my god, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.920 Fredi stairs dancing. Well, apparently in the Tower of Inferno 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.120 they had like fifty something sets and all the eight 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:06.440 of them were like went up in flames. H wow. Yeah, geez, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.160 that's a sidetrack. That's much more interesting. They got marshals, 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.680 I think, so they transport prisoners, they kept capture fugitives, 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.920 and then um we we did a whole podcast on 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:21.360 Witness Security Program wit SEC, the Witness Protection Program UM, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.680 but we'll talk about it briefly here. Basically, it was 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.560 conceived in nineteen seventy and since then the Marshal Service, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:33.320 which basically UM hides federal witnesses and keeps them hidden, 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:37.000 gives them new lives UM, or just you know, keeps 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.080 them in safe houses during trial, depending on the arrangement. Uh. 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:42.760 They say that since nineteen seventy, since the beginning, not 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.200 one witness has been harmed if they follow the rules. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:52.120 Plenty of witnesses have been wax but went to a 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.640 movie or something with you know, look at me, I'm 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.680 Jimmy two legs Josh. They also, we we said protect 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.360 the courts. They still do that today, more than two 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:09.120 thousand judges and four courthouses nationwide. They install security systems, 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.400 they provide personal escort and watch over high risk trials. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:19.040 And there's also a few other people they helped transport UM. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:24.360 I think all federal judges, U S attorneys, personnel in jurors. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:30.639 UM they provide protection for and they transport UM. The 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.880 Supreme Court justices outside of Washington, d C. I'm their 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.280 annual picnic I guess so, and I guess in d C. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:39.680 And I'm not sure who it is. It may be 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.600 secret Service or something or maybe just I don't know 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.560 local local marshals, and we should point that out. Marshal 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.879 is a term that's used a lot, but unless you 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.359 are a U S. Marshal, then you're not part of 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.879 the U S. M say, like, you can be a 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.639 marshal like some countries have marshals. Is military ranks or 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:04.720 air marshals are not related to UM the Marshal Service 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.239 that yeah, I thought they were. I thought they were 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.440 U S. Marshals they or not UM. Also, we should 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.240 say if you are if you're a drug dealer and 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.000 you get popped for a beef by the FEDS and 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.879 they take your stuff, it's the marshals who have it. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:22.200 They're in charge of ash st seizure, yes, and distribution 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:26.920 to like selling off stuff to give reparation to families 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.640 and victims and stuff, or to fund the Marshal Service 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:32.639 or to fund the Marshal Service picnic. What else can 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.480 they do, Josh. They have a SWAT group Special Operations Group, 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.399 which basically does the same thing that SWAT teams do, 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:44.600 but for federal stuff. Okay, that makes sense. And um, 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.440 they once arrested, arrested and making air quotes a fleet 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.520 of UM eighteenth century shipwrecks off the coast of Rhode 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.479 Island at the request of the governor UM to protect it, 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.520 to take it and take these to federal custody and 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:06.240 protect them from vandals and UM salvagers. Yeah, yeah, I 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.240 got a stat on the assets. They currently manage eighteen 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:13.520 thousand assets valued at three point nine billion bucks. It's 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.080 a lot of cigarette boats. And in two thousand ten 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.200 paid UM victims of crimes about three hundred and fifty 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.440 million dollars. So they do use it for reparation time 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.000 some of it. UM. They also made payments to state 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.720 and low local law enforcement agencies of five hundred and 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.480 eighty millions, So maybe they repay. Like if you wrect 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.120 your police cars in the pursuit of this guy, we'll 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.159 pay you back. Here's some money. We're sell off their 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.200 stuff and we'll pay you back. Just remember Uncle Sam 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:47.080 takes care of you. Uh what else, Josh, Well, the 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.760 we talked about how the MARS services set up within 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.879 the ninety four districts and the thirty nine fifty three 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.199 three thousand, nine fifty three deputies. Um, but how did 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.760 they get there? Chuck? Apparently I used to have an 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:05.200 exam and then now they used the standard federal Career 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.679 intern program, which it takes a couple of years to 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.320 get you to make sure that you're not just some 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.760 jerk too could fill out on application yeah, or once 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.240 a free gun. Yeah. So you gotta get a pay 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.640 your dues for a couple of years, and if you've 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.080 got the right stuff, then you have to go through 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.720 a seventeen and a half week training course at the U. S. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:29.000 Marshall Service Training Academy in Glencoe, Georgia. Did you did 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.439 you know the Marshall's Training Academy is here? I didn't, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:35.800 and I didn't even know actually, And it's down it's 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.199 sort of halfway between Jacksonville and Savannah. It's down on 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.280 the coast and your St. Simon's. It does ring a 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.480 slight bell. I think it was not even a place 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.720 until they put the thing there and they named it Glencoe. 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:51.960 I don't know if that stands for anything, but I 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.240 don't even think that was a legitimate town until they 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.000 set up a six acre campus that has its own 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:03.440 zip code. That's very neat. It's big, um chuck. If 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.240 you want to become a U. S. Marshal, there's some 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.960 Now you can't just fill out an application. You have 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.359 to go through the training program. But even to get 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.800 into the training program too, on the U S. Marshall track, 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:19.119 there's some um, some qualifications you have to have. You 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.480 have to be a US citizen. Check you have to 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:27.440 be between the ages of thirty six. Nope, Um, you 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.960 could still I could. I'd better hurry up. Being good 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.680 physical condition, I would say, I'm not, and you're you're 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.040 so so stuff. So would you say you're in good 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.680 physical conditions? I would? So you could pass these these tests, 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.560 I could. You could do the fifty chin ups and 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.080 run the mile in a certain time over a long 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:52.520 enough period of time, I could. A bachelor's degree check. Uh, 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:58.640 three years experience in law enforcement or other qualifying job experience. Uh. 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:05.360 Valid driver's license and a good driving record. Yeah, okay, 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.200 I'm good. Well, aside from the age limit, then you're 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:12.400 fine in the physical condition, in the experience. So pretty much, 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.040 I'm a US citizen and I have a driver's license. 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:19.879 That's what qualifies me. Uh. There's some famous Marshals besides 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.560 Tommy Lee Jones and Bat Masterson who I mentioned Did 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.399 you mention him? Yes? I just got threw him in earlier. 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.840 Was Marshall Dylan a real person Matt Dylon or was 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.840 he just a fictional character? I don't think he was 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:36.080 fictional character? Pretty sure h TV Baby White Earth was 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.080 real though. Yea and Virgil and Morgan Earp his brothers. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.400 They were all Marshals, as was wild Bill Hickock. And 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:48.360 while Bill is the tie that binds the Marshall's podcast 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:53.480 and the Swords following podcast because he brought in a 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:57.680 Cowboys and Indians set up to the Three Worlds Fair 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:02.040 in Chicago. Ah, look at you up in both. Wow. 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.520 Frederick Douglas had no idea that he was a U. S. Marshall. No, 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.000 and the Marshall for d C two, which I imagine 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.160 it is probably a pretty busy district. Did you see 0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.520 you don't watch Louis, do you? No? He had episode 0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:18.320 of his daughter dressed up like Frederick Douglas for Halloween 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.080 and apparently that was what he wanted to be when 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.000 he was a kid one year, so he brought it 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:28.360 back years later for a show. Yeah. Um, what else, Josh, 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:31.920 they have the most wanted list that is different than 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.840 the FBI S. Yeah, I remember they caught that one 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.200 dude in Mexico. They caught one of their own dudes 0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.800 in Mexico that went to the other side, I think too. 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.960 Oh yeah, that's right, he like went Randy Gaiden turned 0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:53.800