1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Thank you, Mercedes Benz. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Con McLaughlin's here. You need to get Mercedes ben My god, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I do Mercedes Benz needs to sponsored the podcast. Let's 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: work on that. Come on, man, Capitalistic Piglet's Oh, I'm ready, 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: I comic Cloughman. It's an it's an honor to meet you. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I wish we hear. I was honored to 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: meet you. Thank you. I wish we had more moments 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: before we came in here, but it was like here, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: that's good, we can have them now. We've all been 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: such fans of your work for so many years. Thank you. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: But now we get to see you in a whole 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: different light. Yes, tell everyone what you're doing. 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing a podcast. It's called what are We even Doing? 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: We dropped today. I spend time interviewing young creatives, so 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: we talk about their process, their creative process. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: This is not a journey into a personal world. This 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: is about kind of. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Where they where they go for their creativity, what inspires them, 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: how they've used social media to tell their story. And 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: every story is different and it's fascinating, and we kind 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: of run the gamut from we've had interviews. Kya Gerber 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: is up today, Dylan O'Brien an actor. We've got willib 23 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: Bennett speak with her as well, so kind of across 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: the board. 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Uh. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: And they're all interesting people, fascinating and doing wonderful things. 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: I'd like you and Kay Sinnat to get together and 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: do a little something. 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Okay on the list we have them on ready request. Well, 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: being a creator as you are yourself, how enlightening is 31 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: it to have people from other levels of age genre? 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: What levels might those be? I mean, do they do? 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: They do? They spark it for you? These conversations talking 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: absolutely well. I think you know it starts being an actor. 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Of course working with other actors. 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: Have got something out now with Ethan Hawke, and we 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: were talking about this last night. Just that kind of 38 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: creativity that happens in front of the camera, provided that 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: the environment is is a career one is really what 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: we live for as creative beings. And I think in 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: conversations with some of our young guests. 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: It's the same. 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: We sit in a room like this and we talk 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: and out of that I just get I get high 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: on it really. I mean, it's just a wonderful way 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: to communicate and talk about what what drives them, you know, 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: what motivates them? Where where does the creative stuff come from? 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: You know? 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: And and how do they start? Which is my journey 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: is a very strange, odd one. Everyone has a different 51 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: way in so that's also part of the conversation. 52 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: So Kyle's what are we even doing? As he said, 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: it drops today. You can start hearing these podcasts on 54 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio network and wherever you get your podcast. Of 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: course you're ten and you say ten, and you have 56 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: thirty four mins ago and then and more beyond that. 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: But what have you? Is there something that sticks out 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: in your mind during these first ten that makes you go, God, 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that was a moment And I couldn't stop thinking about 60 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: that moment all day after we recorded that podcast. Yeah, 61 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: every time. 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: So we've done ten times, done ten interviews, and everyone 63 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: at some point in time there is a moment. And again, 64 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: this is a conversation. This is a casual conversation. I'm 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: not probing. I just want them to feel comfortable enough 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: to reveal to me what it is that there, how 67 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: they go, how they work. And I remember the one 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: today actually speaking with Kaya because you know, I grew 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: up with with her mom, you know, so we bring 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: up her mom. We talk about that, and I said 71 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: to her, did your mom cool? Did you think she 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: was cool when you were growing up? And she said 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: absolutely not, She was like a mom, and I said, 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: that's beautiful. And then we talked about the fact that 75 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: she was a tree in one of her first theatrical experiences, 76 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: and I shared the fact that I was also a tree. 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I was a tree. Were you a tree? Any other 78 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: people who were on stage? Any bushes, shrubbery? Yeah, you've 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: got character. I was always get out of here. You 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: haven't lived until you play that tree. So she was 81 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: a tree? Yeah? Yeah. So we shared that. 82 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Just crazy stuff comes up in conversations and I enjoyed that, 83 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: and then we did it finally at the end, we 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: did that thing where we we did Shakespearean insults to 85 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: each other. Okay, and we pulled up because she she 86 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: loves Shakespeare. 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Your kid. 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: Prompted a roguean peasant slave? Yes, uh. And we put 89 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: on these kind of funny callers. So it's it's all. 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: It's good fun, lighthearted humor with some conversation that hopefully 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: gets into some deeper places. 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: So you addressed as a hot dog somewhere. 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: I certainly do did. Sorry, yes I had. I brought 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: my hot dog costume here. I've left it in the 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: green room. 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: I have a curzy of kind of a fun social 98 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: media presence. And behind me here you can see a 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: couple of the team memories. They didn't wear their their 100 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: hot dog costumes today. 101 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: But away I know right, they're turning away, they're looking 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: cat that did you. They're giving us set to and 103 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I'll talk about this and go down this road. Not 104 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: the hot dog, not the hot dog. Yeah, we were 105 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: dancing around just for fun. 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: It was literally was like really and they were like yeah, 107 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I said, okay, I mean I'm up for anything. 108 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: What was this hot dog thing? I dressed up in 109 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: a hot talk costume? 110 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: It was it was a trend, a TikTok trend that 111 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: we followed Chapel Roone song and we just kind of 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: did this crazy moment dancing around and people seem to 113 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: enjoy it. 114 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: If everyone wants to know how to be creative, they 115 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: should go to Kyle. You may make me want to 116 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: dress like I want condiments. Pay the question though, out 117 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: of these ten I asked you, like, is there anything 118 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: that stuck out. Of course, I talked about being a 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: tree thing. Is there something you're learning from them? And 120 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: because I think that's what is going to make your 121 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: podcast a lot different than a lot of podcasts. You're 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: actually curious, yeah, about what sparked them, and then then 123 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: in turn it sparks you. I'm a s yeah, exactly right. 124 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: So during a conversation, of course they're sharing because it 125 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: is a conversation. 126 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: That's how we set it up. 127 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: So I asked them questions that I'm interested in, and 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: then I find myself sharing kind of my my journey, 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, my early days and what that was like. 130 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: And there's a kind of fun meeting of the minds 131 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: that happens, the differences and the similarities. I was talking 132 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: with Dylan O'Brien and I was saying, it feels like 133 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: today there's much more fluidity in terms of roles and 134 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: performance and what you can do and how you present 135 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: yourself in terms of being an actor. And I remember 136 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: when I started, there was pretty you know, a pretty 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: narrow lane in terms of what you were expected to 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: do and kind of what you were trying to aspire 139 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: to do, and you didn't really venture off of that, 140 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: and I said, there's a freedom in that that happens 141 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: with today's actors that I find really refreshing. I kind 142 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: of wish we'd had that when I was younger as well. 143 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: So when the director says, Okay, you know your lines, 144 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: here's what we want you to do or where we 145 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: want you to go go, does that still give you 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: butterflies in your stomach? Oh, it's just excitement. Yeah, Oh God, 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: what do I do with it? Yes? Yeah, Now it 148 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: depends on the situation, honestly. 149 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: And again I was referring back to Ethan when I 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: work with Ethan, because we're similar in the fact that 151 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: the script is the starting point, but it depends on 152 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: the director. To some directors, they don't want you to 153 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: experiment and kind of go off a little bit. Sterlin Harjoe, 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: who is the director of what we're doing right now, 155 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: was was just the opposite. He was very much about, 156 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: let's let's let's play in this world. Let's start with 157 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: here with the material that we have, and let's see 158 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: where she goes. And uh, that to me is it's 159 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: a little bit like the conversations I have with my guests. 160 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: This is there's no set plan I mean, I've got 161 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: a couple of questions and we just sort of let 162 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: them run and we go off in different worlds. Really 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: it's fun. 164 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, by the way, turning us on to Kyle 165 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Maclauchlin's here, what are we even doing? Uh? This it's good. 166 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: I like to be what are what? What are we even? 167 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: There's so many ways that you can agree even even 168 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: even do it. 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Uh. This is the latest show to join the Elvis 170 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: dram Podcast network, and we are just thrilled to see 171 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: where this is going. I'm thrilled with what if you 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: just ten we'd be happy if you keep going. We 173 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: must have more. 174 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 4: How do you find the people that you want to 175 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: do your podcast with? Because I said young content creators? 176 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: Where are they coming from? 177 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 178 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: So I recommendations actually from my team and they know 179 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: people and then some people that I also suggest that 180 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Kaya was a suggestion. I knew her, and I started 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: off with people that I kind of knew a little bit. Kaya, 182 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Benny of course, Benny Skinner, who's in overcompensating. Can I 183 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: mention that we're we're going back for a second season? 184 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah no, please don't say that. Don't say that. Is 185 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: it too late. Should I hope today the jury will disregard. 186 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don't you didn't hear that people, No, it's 187 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: definitely true. We're going back to overcompensating too. And so 188 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: so I knew Bennie a little bit. So when I started, 189 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, your butterflies and everything, and you want to 190 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: make sure. You don't know if this is going to 191 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: work really when you sit down. 192 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: Here's the idea. 193 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: We're going to sit down and have this conversation. And 194 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be good, but I don't know. 195 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: But it turned out to be. I mean, I had 196 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: so much fun, so much fun, which. 197 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: Is a great show. 198 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: It's a great well, thank you. It's just a great idea. 199 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: It's just a great idea. 200 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: And thank you for bringing I mean, you brought us on. 201 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean you you're the man. We don't just a man. 202 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: We don't exist without you. No, I can't handle it. 203 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: You're the man. You're the man. I love this text 204 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: that just came through. I've been listening to you for 205 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: fifteen years. This is the first guess that interests me. 206 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, your. 207 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Audience is going to tell you, they're going to give 208 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: you honesty. 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: See Lee Schrager was on before you. I guess that 210 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: really just comment. 211 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: Has doing this changed the way that you create content now? 212 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Interesting question? 213 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Uh not? Yeah, in a way. Yes, I think the 214 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: whole journey I've changed. I've changed because the whole process 215 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: of engaging social media. I've kind of let my my 216 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: crazy side out. I mean, I'm I'm very silly, and 217 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: I've been that way all my life. But there's as 218 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: I was talking earlier, I was saying, you know, there 219 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: was a period of time when that you don't want 220 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: to lead into that. You know, it's sort of the 221 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: young leading man. You got to be serious, you know, 222 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: brooding and all that. And now I've like my age 223 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: and what's happening. I'm like, screw it, we're going you know, 224 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: and I just jump in. So and I think that 225 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: that has that influence has come from this younger generation, 226 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: certainly from my son is seventeen, and he's a big 227 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: influence on me. 228 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Oh he's keeping an eye on you. He is keeping 229 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: an eye on me. 230 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, see on YouTube all the time, Like my sixteen 231 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: year old, that's all he does. YouTube, that's where they 232 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: get all their content. 233 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it is everything. It's more and more so than 234 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: any other platform. YouTube is sort of where they go. 235 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: And I find, I would say, kind of the same 236 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: way I go. 237 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: I go on Instagram more than that's me too. Do 238 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: you fall into the whole? Do you like hours later? 239 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I seem like I'm like, I'm learning things, 240 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: you know what i mean. I'm like, no, this is educational. 241 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm you're learning how not to be as a human 242 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: as well. 243 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: That's my favorite. Okay, what are your favorite go tos? 244 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: When you see it on Instagram, you've got to stop 245 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: and watch it. 246 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm really bad with Well, they don't how much 247 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: I learned on this. But the cat videos where the 248 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: cat videos cats are like fighting each other, like and 249 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: they're like, you know, get. 250 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: The hell out of his show. I'm into airplane fights. 251 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm so into the airplane fights. Don't judge. Yeah, I can't. 252 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: I look I have to look away. I'm too. I'm 253 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: too embarrassed. I can't like. 254 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: Innocent children that curse and they don't even like their 255 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: parents start cracking up. 256 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: They don't want to last use the sea word. I'm like, 257 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, God. Well, So, speaking of creativity, can you 258 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: think back on your your body of work? What was 259 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: that one that sticks out to you, that project that 260 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: you were given license to and you succeeded in being 261 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: your most creative. The character just came from you and 262 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: no one else, and you're so proud of it. Yeah. 263 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: I go back to Twin Peaks, Dale Cooper creating the 264 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: character of Dale Cooper with alongside David Lynch because he 265 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: was he was obviously my first two films were what 266 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: they Dune in Blue Velvet and then Twin Peaks, of course, 267 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: and so he was a mentor, a guide, like a 268 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: big brother for me, and a lot of Dale Cooper. 269 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I just borrowed from David. I just watched him and 270 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: I did I think he kind of maybe you knew, 271 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. You got to kick out of it. 272 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: But and he loved Twin Peaks so much. 273 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: He loved the world of Twin Peaks so much that 274 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: he couldn't resist and he actually joined the cast as 275 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: Gordon Cole. He wanted to play in that world. 276 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: It was so special to him. 277 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 3: Have they come to you for any of the shows 278 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: you've done, like Sex and the City, Desperate Housewives and said, hey, 279 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: we want to do a reboot. 280 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: No, but I have heard. 281 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: Kerry Washington is talking about this for Desperate Housewives, so 282 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: she's got an idea. It's very early, early on, so 283 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 284 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: It could be fun. Yeah, you seem too stereo Lane. 285 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: You seem to be showing up in what I don't know, 286 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: I find to be the most entertaining shows for me anyway, 287 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: thank you. So I don't know what it is. So 288 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: what do you discard that comes your way? I know 289 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: you don't do everything. No, it's a good question. I 290 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: don't even really think about it. Well, things come, types 291 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: of things. Do you steer. I'm trying to get back 292 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: to creativity. You'll get a script and go. I just 293 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: don't see how I could really have fun doing that. Yeah, 294 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: that's part of it. Part of it. 295 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: Do I connect with the world or the character honestly? 296 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: And sometimes you know, you surprise yourself. But usually what 297 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: kind of gets filtered through somehow makes sense to me. 298 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, this is good. I mean the lowdown, 299 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 2: which is out right now we're gonna drop actually next 300 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: week politician. It's set in Tulsa, Oklahoma. But he is 301 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: a guy that has secrets, so that seems to be 302 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: a common thread. 303 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Don't tell you any what I do? 304 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, what about in the opposite direction? Obviously, we know 305 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: you love twin Peaks. Is there anything that you look 306 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: back on and you're like, damn it, why did. 307 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: I do that? Oh? Yes, this afternoon, it'll be this show. 308 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Not at all. I'm so happy to be here. Oh yeah. 309 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: You know there are shows that you going with the. 310 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: Best intentions and and they end up surprising you in 311 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: sort of scary ways. I know there's there's a lot 312 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: of controversy about show Girls, and I'm talking about that one, 313 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: and so I was that was one where I was like, oh, 314 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: I didn't turn out exactly as I expected. 315 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: But it has found uh an audience and a life. 316 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 4: It's found an audience with our creepy producer over here, the. 317 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Man though not the only one, the creepy guys. He's 318 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: coming toward the microphone. Yes, I made la Colm McLaughlin, 319 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I waits your. 320 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: Question legitimate questions. I do actually have two now that 321 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: you brought that up. 322 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: I think I brought it up, which is scary scary thought. 323 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 5: Okay, were you fully nude? 324 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: No, well let's see the technically I wasn't a pool. 325 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah you wear a Yeah, you wear a thing. It's 326 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: it's there's not much of a thing, but there's a thing. 327 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Was the water cold? It was warm? Actually. 328 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: However, however, here's a little insight. Even at well, where 329 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: do they have the tempest like ninety eight degrees or not? 330 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: They have very very warm pool water. You still get 331 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: cold because your your body is losing temperature. So we 332 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: would go from the pool into there a hot tub 333 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: which is even warmer, to warm us up from the 334 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: very warm pool. 335 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: So how do you don't practice that scene? Stop? 336 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. We rehearsed for weeks on that. I 337 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: do remember going in for a rehearsal though with Paul 338 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: Verhoven and who was a director and are a DP cinematographer. 339 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: And so we're in the afternoon, we're there at the 340 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: pool at the location, and I come out. I'm wearing 341 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: like board shorts, you know, as you do, and like, okay, 342 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: we'll walk walk through the this is gonna happen here, 343 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: and this is gonna happen here, blah blah blah. 344 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: So Paul and DP. 345 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: Come out and they have the the European thongs on 346 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: and these are these are guys that you know. And 347 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: then necessarily want to, you know, not the guys you 348 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: want to see. We're in European and I was just like, guys, guys, 349 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: can you not wear shorts? Can you not do something 350 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: about this? They were like, totally. 351 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: Fine, thank you. I wasn't going to say it, but 352 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: you said it. Okay, Well there you go. The image. 353 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: The image is early in the morning, is tricky? Are 354 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: you done yet? 355 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: I do have a legitimate question, Okay, you're you're kind 356 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: of guiding these young creatives through the early parts of 357 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 5: their career. What are they learning from you? Because I 358 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: look at your career, You've been doing. 359 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 6: This for a long time and you're still I mean, 360 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 6: I'm tged that in a negative way, but it's hard 361 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 6: to do that successfully for a long time. Do they 362 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 6: ask you how you've been able to do that. 363 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: During the course of the conversation, we talked about the 364 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: ups and downs of a career, and I've had plenty 365 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: expectations that are that are smashed, you know what I mean. 366 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm I'm less guiding and more just really 367 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: letting them share with me their experience so far, and 368 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: and each one of them is different and very interesting. 369 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: And then what it does It triggers in me like, 370 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I remember an experience that's like that 371 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: as well, and that that just goes back and forth 372 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 2: between the two of us, and before you know it, 373 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: the hour is done, you know, and it's it's and 374 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: then we end with a fun game. Of course, that's 375 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: always something especially we do. 376 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: It's our game. We are we gonna play a game 377 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the time. Let's play a game. 378 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: What do you have? What are we gonna do? Family feud? 379 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: Family food? Get ready? At least Ragger has to play 380 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: to this would be the worst day ever in the 381 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: history of worst shows. You're being so acidic. Colm McLaughlin's here, 382 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: of course, what are we even doing this podcast? We're 383 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: all very skippy about and doing cartwheels about. Yes, uh, 384 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and it just like you looks like you're having a 385 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: lot of fun doing this. And so is this something 386 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: you ever dreamed you'd be doing? And how did this? 387 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: How did this come about? 388 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: Just someone else's No, it started out as it started 389 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: off in a completely different idea actually, as these things 390 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: often do, so we said, you know, it was during 391 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: a short pandem make influenced. Actually you're inspired, and it's 392 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: like you're not working to doing too much. What can 393 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: we do? What can we do that's kind of creative? 394 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: And we started sort of going through different ideas and 395 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: different thoughts. There was a wine show at one time, 396 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: because I'm very big into wine. I said, oh, maybe 397 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: we can do something with wine or with business blah 398 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: blah blah, and it finally distilled down and became this show. 399 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: He said, you know what, let's talk about Let's talk 400 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: about this young the young creatives idea and what that 401 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: might look like. But it really came from the creatives 402 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: from my wife's company, Full Picture. Wife, Desiree Gruber, is 403 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: very very smart and very talented, and so she sort 404 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: of said, you should go off and find something that's 405 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: going to really inspire you. 406 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: And we came up with this idea. 407 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: So it was a you know, it took a while 408 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: to sort of ferment, and we finally got from ment 409 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: because of the wine thing. Very sorry anyway, and and 410 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: this is what we've come up with it. I'm having 411 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: a great time. I had no id, but I you know, 412 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: you don't know when you start. It's like, am I 413 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: going to be able to have a conversation with this is 414 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: going to be interesting. How how is this going to work? 415 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 2: And I just said, you know what I'm most comfortable 416 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: doing just talking, you know, having a conversation, and let's 417 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: see what happens. 418 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: I want everyone to listen to this podcast. It's out today. 419 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: It's called what are We Even Doing? What are we 420 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: even doing? And you have the best voice. 421 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 3: I could just sit here and listen to your talk. 422 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. I learned from the best here. 423 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: You have this thing. You're doing this thing, though, I 424 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: tell you what doing. When people put headphones on and 425 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: they listen to them talk, they sound a little different 426 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: than they do without headphones on. That's true. But we're 427 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: like the way it sounds in this business. We say 428 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: it gives you nen. Yeah, he's got neck nuts, neck nuts, 429 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: neck nuts. I love that. I'm gonna use that. Look 430 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: at this text message just popped into your TikTok live. 431 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: It's right, we've been live on TikTok the whole time. 432 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: What people are leaving the can videos to come watch you? 433 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: Oh my okay, that's so rare. Just popped into your 434 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: TikTok life. Kyle is looking the best he's ever looked. 435 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: He's my zaddy, Oh girlszad yo I like it, Daddy 436 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: one in the daddy calling nice than well, thank you. 437 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: The lighting is wonderful than here, by the way, no 438 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: one ever we've got radium lighting. So as an actor, 439 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to finish up that. The conversation is as 440 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: an actor being able to sit down with these creative 441 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: up and comers, and so I'm established and established, very established. 442 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: Do you find yourself itching to get back out there 443 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: and get to work again, get another project going. Does 444 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: it inspire you? Because if so, that's where the glow 445 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: comes from you. Being inspired and glowing from them is 446 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: what's gonna make this think great. 447 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're all they're all successful at what they're doing, 448 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, and they're and they all love what they're doing. 449 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: And so yeah, when we have a conversation, I'm like, 450 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I really it'd be fun to do this with them 451 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: or so, you know, working with Dylan O'Brien is an 452 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: actor I've admired for many years. 453 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I said, God, it would really fun to do is 454 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: scene with Dylan. 455 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: He's so great, even just a scene, it would be 456 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: really great, you know, let alone a whole thing. So yeah, 457 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: that's that, that is definitely there. When I have the 458 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: conversation with them. It gets me jazzed up and ready 459 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: to go to work. It's it's a it's an amazing thing. 460 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: It's a weird it's a weird thing. This is what 461 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: what I what moves me, you know, motivates me, drives me. 462 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: It's like this creativity and when we're in that space 463 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: with these other with these other creatives, that that is 464 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 2: definitely there. 465 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: So the takeaway for all of us, no matter what 466 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: you do in this life is you find these people 467 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: that you surround yourself with to inspire you, people that 468 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: just really spark your plug is such a thing. Spark plug. 469 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: I gotta say, oh God, that those are awful time. 470 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: You got to you got to surround yourself with people 471 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: that make you want to get up and go and 472 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: continue doing what you love, doing what you need to 473 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: be doing, when what the universe needs for you to do. 474 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you have found this in this 475 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: podcast I have and you can hear it right before 476 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: your ears. What are we even doing, Kyle MacLaughlin, It's 477 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: the latest on our Elvis Tran podcast network. Such a 478 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: pleasure to have you here, my god, ellis such a 479 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: pleasure to be here. Thank you and for listening to 480 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: every syllable you get us on this podcast. Thank you 481 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: so much. This has been live the entire time. We 482 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: didn't even tell you on the Instagram and on TikTok 483 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: at Elvis Dran Show, Kyle mcloughland every whe