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Speaker 1: I listen to the black guy who tips podcasts because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. Hi, Welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Blackoutis podcast. I'm your host. Rod joined us always on

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Speaker 1: my cast here and we're alive on a Wednesday. This

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Speaker 1: some company everybody. You probably see it in the show

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Speaker 1: title or the show description. Today we're joined by a

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Speaker 1: senior editor at Eater, journalist who's work you may have

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Speaker 1: seen the New York Times, bonn Appetite and Kitchen, and

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Speaker 3: Not too much, not too much. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's cool to have you on.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things is food.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we have a whole spin off show that's

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Speaker 5: nothing but food.

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Speaker 6: When and when Roddie told me you was gonna be

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Speaker 6: a guest, I was like, I got all other questions.

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Speaker 7: See y'all already my people were here, and then let's

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Speaker 7: get right into it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the first thing I want to ask

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Speaker 1: is what was your path to get into like food

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Speaker 1: as like a topic for like journalism, because I know

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Speaker 1: you went to Northwest and you majored in journalism, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like food is a very specific part of

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Speaker 1: like a subject to be about.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh yeah. So it was actually wild because

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Speaker 7: like for a long time, I didn't even seriously consider

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Speaker 7: it as like an option. I was always like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I gotta, you know, make sure that I can just

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Speaker 7: get through school, get a job, and pay my bills,

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Speaker 7: and like that is that is it. We'll worry about

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Speaker 7: the specifics after the bills are paid. And it was

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Speaker 7: just like I had an internship where another colleague of

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Speaker 7: mine was just saying, hey, like, I see that you

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Speaker 7: are really passionate about this. I see that you have,

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Speaker 7: you know, this really deep desire to just learn about it.

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Speaker 3: So why not just dive in, you know, work at

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Speaker 3: work at eater for a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit, just give it a shot, you know, don't say

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Speaker 7: no before you even try it yet. And I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 7: well maybe I should actually consider that, like it was

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Speaker 7: not signing up for a sermon.

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Speaker 1: But that's a big thing for me too, is uh

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Speaker 1: sometimes I tell myself no before I even try something,

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Speaker 1: and it is a big hurdle mentally to get over.

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Speaker 1: But it's been really rewarding to be like, why why

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Speaker 1: can't I try that?

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Speaker 6: Yes, why don't I deserve And that's very Sometimes it's

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Speaker 6: very difficult to kind of get over that because sometimes

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Speaker 6: you feel like it's a like you don't belong there,

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Speaker 6: or you feel like you're intruding, and you shrink yourself,

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Speaker 6: make yourself small in spaces when sometimes you're actually the

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Speaker 6: most educated person in the room. But it's just the

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Speaker 6: fact that a lot of these people got these positions

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Speaker 6: and they don't even know what the hell they talking about.

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Speaker 6: They just walked in bold and strong and was like,

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Speaker 6: y'all gonna get these words and be like, you don't

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Speaker 6: know what you're talking about, sir, but you're talking with authority,

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Speaker 6: so everybody respects it.

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Speaker 7: Why can't I listen y'all about to be shodowed? Because

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Speaker 7: that's real. It's that, you know, Like I feel like

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Speaker 7: so often we were told that we shouldn't, you know,

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Speaker 7: stand in the fact that we like are confident in

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Speaker 7: what we know. We have the experience, we have the knowledge,

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Speaker 7: even if it's not necessarily like in the ways that

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Speaker 7: communities that we come from, right, But it's still just like, well,

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Speaker 7: You know, if we're so quick to give everyone else

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Speaker 1: To And was it difficult as far as like securing

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Speaker 1: you apply to it, either you get accepted or you don't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think it's a it's a mixture

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Speaker 7: of both like throughout my whole career, and I really

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Speaker 7: do my best to try to say this every time, Like.

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Speaker 3: My career is not just a reflection of me. It

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Speaker 7: Has been a mentor, who has cared, who has reached out,

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Speaker 7: who has encouraged me. Like this is a community affair,

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Speaker 7: so this is not just me. Like people had to

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Speaker 7: and that's all part of it. So yeah, it was

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Speaker 7: like the simple you know, apply, cross your fingers, hope,

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Speaker 3: Thrilled about it. But it was also a make sure

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Speaker 3: of just like okay, well, what are what are the

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Speaker 3: things I have to do to get there? Right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Like what are the.

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Speaker 7: What are the things that you know, other people have

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Speaker 7: been trying to tell me all along?

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Speaker 3: But now I.

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Speaker 7: Actually have to internalize and I actually have to believe

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Speaker 3: Before I even walk in that door. Yeah, I'm sure

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, That's easy, and a lot of times that's easier

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Speaker 6: said than done because like I know, and I'm I'm

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Speaker 6: guilty of this too, but anybody that's been around me

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Speaker 6: know that I am a Chileader, like cheerleading is in

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Speaker 6: my spirit. I'll you know, I can't explain that to people,

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Speaker 6: but I am the person where I am your number

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Speaker 5: Like, no matter what you're doing, if you.

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Speaker 6: Look over there and see me, my pop poles would

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Speaker 6: be up in the air, and I'm gonna say, go baby,

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Speaker 6: go go get it, go get it, Go get that bag,

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Speaker 6: go get that money, go get the educated like like

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Speaker 6: like that's me. But sometimes it's hard when it's you though,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that makes sense, but when you

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Speaker 6: you almost have to you almost reevaluate, and sometimes you

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Speaker 6: have to be like, you know what, the things I'm

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Speaker 6: telling everybody else, I have to prove to myself, you know,

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Speaker 6: And so like even with me and Roger in the podcast,

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Speaker 6: now that stuff, I just can tell you I am

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Speaker 6: the biggest cheerleader, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and he's like, I don't know. I'm like, sure,

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Speaker 5: let's do it.

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Speaker 6: Like Roger can tell you, I'm the first one to

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Speaker 5: Don't know how to fix it. No, I can't swim.

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Speaker 6: I'm at the deeping in the pool, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 6: something got to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well always what was interesting is when I so, when

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Speaker 1: I was in high school, I was in this program

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Speaker 1: called in Roads, and it takes like academically talented minority youth.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I still remember that sluggan after all

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Speaker 1: these years. But it takes these it takes these these

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Speaker 1: gifted black kids, is right. And they take us and

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Speaker 1: they train us to make, you know, like help us

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Speaker 1: place you in like these fast track programs with companies, right.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm an intern. And in nineteen ninety five

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Speaker 5: Because you ain't got no real bill.

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Speaker 3: What are you playing for?

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Speaker 1: Right? I get some more later. I'm not even like

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Speaker 1: eating Robin noodles. I'm like, nah, I don't need it.

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Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. So, but I just remember when

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Speaker 1: were people looking at me like, Rod, I don't you

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Speaker 1: might not know how to balance this account, but you

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Speaker 1: know how to run a fax machine. Can you teach

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Speaker 1: you how to balance an account? Yeah, So shout out

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Speaker 1: to those people and those mentors. Is cooking like a thing?

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Speaker 1: First of all, do you cook like in addition to

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Speaker 1: just covering it?

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Speaker 1: I do, okay, because I because I mean it could

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Speaker 1: we're just like, oh, you must just be a beast

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Speaker 1: So you know, my thing would be like, is there

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Speaker 1: like a like have you always cooked, like even since

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Speaker 1: cover for your for your your work.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean great, great, great question. I think it's both.

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Speaker 7: So growing up always cooking was always in the ketchen

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Speaker 7: the meals that day, you know, so it was.

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Speaker 3: Always something that was just present.

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Speaker 7: So I never really thought of it as work because

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Speaker 7: like connected to the people that I have a relationship with,

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Speaker 7: but I love Like when my friends were struggling and

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Speaker 7: like we were saying, okay, well, like you come over,

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Speaker 3: We'll have bullpopuck and won't make it work. You know.

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Speaker 3: So in that way, it was just.

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Speaker 7: Like, well, obviously, justin why would you not pursue this

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Speaker 7: thing that you love, that you're always doing anyways?

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Speaker 1: Well, well, it's actually really dope because like, because everyone

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Speaker 1: But to take it that extra step and be like, yo,

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Speaker 5: But once you if you for intro cooking is basic stuff.

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Speaker 6: You'll be like, oh my gosh, it take the food

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Speaker 1: Can you describe what zesting is for people that don't

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Speaker 5: But see stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: And some of them could be are you really heavy?

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Speaker 5: You was out for a few days.

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Speaker 6: I know somebody listened nothing done that and started a

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Speaker 6: But what you didn't then you got to go through

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Speaker 6: Yeah, those people don't know that. They just think you

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Speaker 3: No, no.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it seems there's so many things that just

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Speaker 5: See years ago, you didn't have YouTube, so you.

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Speaker 6: Had depend on your mom and then but my mama

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Speaker 3: All right, Like, let me let me enjoy my life.

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Speaker 3: You know, sorry that I asked other way?

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Speaker 6: Yes, And then you can plain about how you ain't

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Speaker 5: What you complaining? Folk? That would be my biggest thing

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Speaker 3: Is the support group?

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Speaker 7: I don't I mean, don't always have the time, of

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Speaker 7: You know, I think it was kind of like this

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, we get a listen, everybody on this podcast, y'all

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Speaker 7: No, you're all good, But I just feel like people

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Speaker 1: We got to go.

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Speaker 7: So like when I when I got burnt out, I

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Speaker 3: It was like, well, you know, y'all, y'all have to remember,

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Speaker 7: Everyone is going out of their way to just burn

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Speaker 7: To say, you know what, I'm throwing pasta water and

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Everybody got ingre you know.

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Speaker 5: Exactly exact that is there.

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Speaker 6: And a lot of people like home cooks and a

443
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Speaker 6: lot of chefs that cater towards. Home cooks are some

444
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Speaker 6: of the most popular. And people wonder why because the

445
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Speaker 6: average person, which is your most of your viewers, are

446
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Speaker 6: gonna be like, look, what can I do for ten

447
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Speaker 6: dollars or less? What can I do for twenty dollars

448
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Speaker 6: a less? What can I get on sell for two

449
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Speaker 6: for five? Like I don't have time to be going

450
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Speaker 6: in here with all these kids hollering in screaming, running

451
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Speaker 6: around the grocery store asking them what kind of cheese

452
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Speaker 6: is this?

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Speaker 5: And do you know how to pronounce this in French?

454
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Speaker 5: Make it simple? People like?

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, because as you were saying before.

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Speaker 7: So often people know how to cook more like they

457
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Speaker 7: know by doing, they know intuitively, but sometimes they just

458
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Speaker 7: need someone to say, hey, this is all it is,

459
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Speaker 7: just you know, scrape your citrus.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's like.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna set off this right, I promise you. All

462
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Speaker 1: you need is a line and love it or butter,

463
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Speaker 1: we about to change our rights for life, you know

464
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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how many of us have seen family members, you know,

467
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Speaker 7: like making pound cake right and then scrape the lemons

468
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Speaker 7: in the process. Yes, how many of us never actually

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Speaker 7: put it together that that's what that thing is.

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Speaker 5: Form never know and they not even know that's what

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Speaker 5: it was called.

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Speaker 1: Talking on exactly.

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Speaker 7: And that's the thing like we we know so much

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Speaker 7: because we have all this knowledge, but we we don't

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Speaker 7: give ourselves the credit.

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Speaker 5: No, we don't, you know.

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Speaker 6: And and I'm surprised they don't have Like I don't know,

478
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Speaker 6: if you follow like a lot of the workout regiments

479
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Speaker 6: on like TikTok and stuff like that, cooking out have

480
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Speaker 6: two versions. When they talking to you, they go, Okay,

481
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Speaker 6: for the advanced people, we can do this if you

482
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Speaker 6: want to modify it. You know, it's it's instead of

483
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Speaker 6: you know, doing the cage free chickens. You know, you

484
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Speaker 6: gone down there and get your little chip of chickens,

485
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Speaker 6: you know, get me to get people.

486
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Speaker 1: To like it is interesting because like, like the other day,

487
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Speaker 1: I saw a recipe on YouTube that I want to do.

488
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Speaker 1: Instead of bacon lettuce, tomato bot it was a pot

489
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Speaker 1: because it was pork belly, lettuce and tomato, and I

490
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Speaker 1: was like, I want to make that, you know what

491
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Speaker 1: I mean, delicious talking my language right, So then I

492
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Speaker 1: realized I don't know where to get pork belly, Like

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Speaker 1: like I've been living in the city my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's possible, duh. But I just didn't know

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Speaker 1: where to get it. So then someone sent me a

496
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Speaker 1: link to a website where you can get these means

497
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Speaker 1: and they mail them to you. It's like exotic kind

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Speaker 1: of means. I forget the name. It had like a

499
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Speaker 1: fancy name like there talking on or something. And so

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Speaker 1: they sent me this link and I got the pork belly.

501
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Speaker 1: But then it was like, if you want free shipping,

502
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Speaker 1: you need to spend like a little more money. So

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'll find something else. And

504
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Speaker 1: so I got duck, duck breasts, because I never have

505
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Speaker 1: made duck before, and so I got both and got

506
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Speaker 1: them shipped here and all this stuff, and it was expensive.

507
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Speaker 1: And I cooked the duck and it was, oh that

508
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Speaker 1: absolutely delicious. My god, oh my god.

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Speaker 6: We got a meatmometer, and the thing is, yeah, once

510
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Speaker 6: you put like this, I put like this.

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Speaker 5: I know I am not my ancestors.

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Speaker 6: I'm not even gonna lie. I'm when it comes to

513
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Speaker 6: the cooking, I'm not them. So for me, I like technology.

514
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Speaker 6: So we invested like meat thermometers and air fryers and

515
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Speaker 6: like all this stuff to kind of make the process easier. No,

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Speaker 6: I don't know what it when I touched this meat,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it's internally one hundred and sixty

518
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Speaker 6: five degrees.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, this thermometer gonna tell me it's

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Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty five degrees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So we got like an app with like a

522
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Speaker 1: thermometer that you it's like Wi Fire Bluetooth where you

523
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Speaker 1: put the thermometer in and you can set it to

524
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Speaker 1: be like, tell me when it's this many degrees. And

525
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Speaker 1: so that's how I cooked the duck because everyone kept

526
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Speaker 1: telling me, like, if you cook this two minutes too long.

527
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Speaker 1: It's trash. Like, yeah, like it's very finicky. It gotta

528
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Speaker 1: be just right or you're gonna ruin your duck. And

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Speaker 1: I spent way too much money on this duck to

530
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Speaker 1: be messing around.

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Speaker 5: So I made the duck.

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Speaker 1: It was delicious, It was it was really good. But

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Speaker 1: it's also that thing where like I've as much as

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Speaker 1: I loved it, I've had other meals where I spent

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Speaker 1: ten dollars and was just as like, Okay, that was hitting,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So like there is this

537
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Speaker 1: idea of if you spend a lot, that's what makes

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Speaker 1: the meal good. But as good as that duck was,

539
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Speaker 1: I listen, I made a bot that was hidden. I

540
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Speaker 1: hope the park belly hitting too, But I made several

541
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Speaker 1: bots that I was quite proud of myself.

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Speaker 5: Alone, you'd be smiling.

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Speaker 6: And the thing about it is that people do I

544
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Speaker 6: think about it, just that people do. People think the

545
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Speaker 6: more money you spend, the better it tastes. Not there

546
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Speaker 6: are some things that you spend money on you do

547
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Speaker 6: get better quality.

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Speaker 5: Don't get me.

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Speaker 6: Wrong, But sometimes I've we've been to expensive places where

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Speaker 6: me and like you want to go to make down's

551
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Speaker 6: after this because this.

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Speaker 5: Food was fucking terrible. You've been like, who cool cook this?

553
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Speaker 6: It wouldn't season And you'd be like, who is your headshift?

554
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Speaker 5: Can I speak to the chef please?

555
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Speaker 7: And you're just like, of course, you want to give

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Speaker 7: everyone the benefit of the dollars. You want to be

557
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Speaker 7: nice and everything, but it's also just like, just because

558
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Speaker 7: you're charging me two hundred dollars for a meal does

559
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Speaker 7: not mean that it's a good meal, right, Like, And

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Speaker 7: it's okay for us to say that.

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Speaker 3: It's okay for.

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Speaker 7: Us to have a conversation about saying like, I get

563
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Speaker 7: the importance of ingredients. I get the importance of quality,

564
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Speaker 7: but that's not what we're talking about here.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the end result, not the process.

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Speaker 1: And there's a gift. There's a gift and a type

567
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Speaker 1: of there's craft to takeing ingredients that aren't necessarily high

568
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Speaker 1: end and making them taste like high end, you know,

569
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Speaker 1: So that's like, that's part of it too. The other

570
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Speaker 1: thing I think of too, you brought this up. We

571
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Speaker 1: talked about getting in the kitchen with the with with

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Speaker 1: your mom and the people cooking. There's cooking for efficiency,

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Speaker 1: which I feel like it gets regulated and genderized to women. Right,

574
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Speaker 1: It's all like, Mama, get in the kitchen and cook

575
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Speaker 1: everybody some food. You know that.

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Speaker 6: That's why you get the same meals. Polton's out them

577
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Speaker 6: off because I got things to do. You got school

578
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Speaker 6: in the morning, we got projects. Ain't ain't nobody got

579
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Speaker 6: time to be trying to be creative.

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Speaker 1: Right, we all know you go tell.

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Speaker 3: Your mom at seven o'clock in the morning, the dads

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Speaker 3: do thing. It's just like, oh, by the way, I

583
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Speaker 3: need poster book. Can we go to CBS?

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Speaker 1: Like we all know the National Black Anthemo spaghetti is

585
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: in the fridge, right, we all we all stretches listen

586
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Speaker 1: because cooking for efficiency is different. And I think what

587
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Speaker 1: is interesting is once I became an adult, I had

588
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Speaker 1: so much more appreciation like as a kid, I just, man,

589
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Speaker 1: this is such a terrible story. I'll tell it anyway

590
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Speaker 1: because I want to. I want people to understand. Right,

591
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Speaker 1: But my mom would make this chicken and mushroom gravy

592
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Speaker 1: with rice, and it was chicken thighs normally, and then

593
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Speaker 1: it was the mushroom gravy over rice. And sometimes she

594
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Speaker 1: make it a cast roll, sometimes not right, and me

595
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Speaker 1: and my brother took the call in it. We called

596
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Speaker 1: it slavery chicken because we would say, this is what

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Speaker 1: the slaves ate. And my mom of course got very offended.

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Speaker 1: It was because it was a terrible thing to say yes,

599
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Speaker 1: and we used to like roll our eyes when she

600
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Speaker 1: would make it. It was listen, I'm telling you because

601
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Speaker 1: I know I'm wrong. Okay, my testimony. Okay, everybody, this

602
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: is my song. And so I remember, I remember shading

603
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Speaker 1: my mom, and me and my brother would just be like,

604
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Speaker 1: slavery chicken again, and it's like a running joke. And

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Speaker 1: literally I remember when I went to college, I was like,

606
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: away the first week, you're eating cafeteria food, and I

607
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: was like, I missed that slavery chicken.

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Speaker 5: So anything for it. Like we came back.

609
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Speaker 1: It was so funny. We came back for fall break, right,

610
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Speaker 1: So that's like my first extended time away from my

611
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Speaker 1: mom and my parents. And so that's what like two

612
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Speaker 1: three months, and then you come to fall break and

613
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Speaker 1: my mom was like, well, do you want me to cook?

614
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Speaker 1: You know, I cook anything. I was like, I want

615
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Speaker 1: that slavery chicken. Can you just cook that chick? Because

616
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Speaker 1: our miscuits so much and it's so interesting with because

617
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: now that I cook, occasionally I'll go in the kitchen

618
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Speaker 1: and it's because I'm not cooking for efficiency. It's just

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Speaker 1: me and Karen, and we don't have kids, and we

620
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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about cooking like five meals in

621
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Speaker 1: a day. So I've made like high end, bougie slavery chicken.

622
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Speaker 1: Like it's just it's like I just went and got

623
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Speaker 1: the good mushrooms and we got we got the chatakis, yeah,

624
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: the jasmine rights or whatever.

625
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Speaker 5: Your wow rights. We just upgraded it just a little bit.

626
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Speaker 1: But I feel like a lot of food is like

627
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Speaker 1: that when you go to like expensive places and you

628
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: think of it. I mean a lot of chefs will

629
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Speaker 1: even say, like, this meal is inspired by my upbringing,

630
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: and that's why I make this. Now it's just different

631
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: ingredients possibly, but it be hidden because it got that

632
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: that that love for the slavery chicken. I feel like

633
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: that that the titles episode will not be slavery chicken.

634
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Speaker 1: Did I realized I was saying it so much? I

635
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: was like, this isle's this move, Let's change it.

636
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 6: Were scratching out, let's change the topics.

637
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: At any rate, they're gonna.

638
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Speaker 5: Be like, what did you talk to them about on

639
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: the episode? Why is it counts chicken food?

640
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Look?

641
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Speaker 5: Am I now to listen to this?

642
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: But food food? My point is food has stories, and

643
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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of what Jesse does is

644
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: tell those stories. That was a roundabout way to get

645
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Speaker 1: to you know, that's what you do. I've been listening

646
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Speaker 1: to your podcast The One Recipe? Can you describe to

647
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: people what the basis? Like the premise of the podcast is.

648
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 7: Real quick, Yeah, definitely, it's exactly what we've been talking about.

649
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Speaker 3: It's it's all about.

650
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Speaker 7: Like one recipe that a chef or a great cook

651
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Speaker 7: or a cookbook author just loves and relies on.

652
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Speaker 3: Like the ones that they actually use in day to

653
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Speaker 3: day life, not the.

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Speaker 7: Ones that are you know, the stylized Instagram.

655
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Speaker 3: TikTok videos and photos. You know.

656
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Speaker 7: So it's it's about making cooking accessible and real while

657
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 7: still saying like, yeah, you can have that ambitious like

658
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Speaker 7: project recipe, or you can have that recipe that you're

659
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 7: just like, at the end of the day, I'm exhausted

660
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: and this is what gets me through.

661
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want I want to be a person that

662
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: writes a cookbook recipe or something so I can be

663
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: a guest on the show, and then I want my

664
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: food to be hot pockets. I want to just like

665
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: partmpletely throw everybody. Everybody like I'm saying, I'm gonna say

666
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a real fancy like hawpall gay and then everybody's like, yeah,

667
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: he's don hopwoll guys, Like my secret is I like

668
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: to put it in there for two forty five instead

669
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: of two thirty and then.

670
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 5: You don't and everything and then.

671
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: Seconds you know what's funny.

672
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this today. I am one of

673
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: the most and I'm not saying it's a humble brag,

674
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: it's just the truth. I am one of the most

675
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: patient people that you will ever meet. Oh yeah, you're

676
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: very patient, right, Like That's one of the reasons I

677
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: think I'm good at cooking is because I just don't

678
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: rush it. I'm like, if the right says it's gonna

679
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: be twenty five minutes, it's gonna be twenty five minutes.

680
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, everybody. And if it tells me the city

681
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes after that, then it's gonna have to

682
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: sit for the fifteen minutes cause I want the rights

683
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: to be right, and we just need to. I need

684
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to start cooking forty minutes earlier. Then fine. But the

685
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: one place where I am not patient at all is

686
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: when that high pocket comes off the microwave. Why can

687
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I never wait the two three minutes or what? It's like?

688
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Let it cool one minute, and I'm like, if that,

689
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm eating our pockets and burning the roof in my

690
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: mouth immediately every time, and so.

691
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 7: Listen, i may have to wait an additional minute, but

692
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 7: I've already been waiting since I started. I've been waiting

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 7: since I started thinking about it. I have been thinking

694
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 7: about this hot pocket all day. That's really this hot

695
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 7: pocket took eight hours exactly three minutes.

696
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: It's gotta be some type of equation the suthing. There

697
00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: has to be a cure for this.

698
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 5: I got done.

699
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: Maybe it does a shortcut, like I could put it

700
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: in the fridge for fifteen seconds, sold it. I don't know.

701
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I need you a shortcut because I'm definitely burning my mouth.

702
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: And it's such a stupid, short sighted decision because then

703
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: everything I eat tastes like burnt mouth. It's just so bad.

704
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 5: What what's your one recipe?

705
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 7: Ooh, so mine is a recipe for like these brown

706
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 7: butter chocolate chips. So basically like I I love bacon,

707
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 7: I love sweets. Always had a sweet tooth. So I

708
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 7: try to make it a habit of always having something

709
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 7: for people to snock on in the house.

710
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: So one of the easiest things to do is just

711
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: always have cookie dough on the.

712
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 7: Freezer because at most it's like maybe fifteen twenty minutes.

713
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 7: You gotta preheat th ob and then just toss them

714
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 7: in and then you're good to go, and it makes

715
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 7: the house smoke great.

716
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on through.

717
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 7: It's just nice to be able to ask something that

718
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: you can share, regardless of the occasion or what's happening.

719
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Speaker 6: What's the worst thing you have ever eaten? Because you

720
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 6: know what you're doing all this food, everything ain't good.

721
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh and before you answered that, I just want to

722
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: throw in real quick as inside chocolate chip cookie incense.

723
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: It's the devil I've had that. It's the damn devil

724
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: because all it do is make you want chocolate chill cookies.

725
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: But go ahead, answer the question.

726
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: Already. See now I can't even think anymore. And I

727
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: was like, what is the question?

728
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: It makes you walk? You walk in the house and

729
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: you be like damn almost some chocolate chill cookies. That's

730
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: all it makes you think is I don't know what

731
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking when I bought that ship. It was

732
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: a mistake. But Karen, I'm so sorry to be real.

733
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: What was your question? Again, I'm sorry.

734
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 7: That is the Lord's toughest battle and I'm not as

735
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 7: strong as soldier.

736
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Speaker 1: Not at all, not at all.

737
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: It's okay.

738
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 5: What is.

739
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: Found?

740
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: What is the worst thing you ever eating? Because, like

741
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 5: I say, with you cook it and you trying all

742
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 5: these food.

743
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 6: Everything ain't good, you know, And I know everybody's palet

744
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 6: is different, but you know you personally.

745
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 1: We understand you can't name names or whatever.

746
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 5: But no, you don't have the name names. You could

747
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 5: just say this is the food whatever.

748
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: And obviously you don't have to pick ourby's. We understand

749
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: that's how that goes. So I don't want my.

750
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 5: Dad, you know.

751
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 7: There was one time, so my family has moved around

752
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: a lot, just with my dad's job, that kind of stuff.

753
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 7: And we lived in the Midwest for a little bit,

754
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: so like as part of our like getting established routine,

755
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 7: we would you know, go to.

756
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: Church, pot lugs, do stuff like that. There was one

757
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: time I had one of the worst cast roles of

758
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: my life.

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00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 7: I don't know who made it, but I would love

760
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 7: to know so I can cuss them out personally.

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00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 6: That's why, if that's why we asked, we'd be like,

762
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 6: who made this?

763
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: And now generations of who made the potato salad make

764
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: a sense to everybody that didn't understand before.

765
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 7: Because see, I was just like, why is it? So

766
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 7: it was like creamy but also burnt but also crunchy. Yeah,

767
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 7: and also under it was like so the rice was

768
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 7: like both like overcooked and still like parts of it

769
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 7: were just like the parts in the center were still

770
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 7: just completely uncooked.

771
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't what is I don't know

772
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: what's happening, but.

773
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: You know, and who the question? Who made the question?

774
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: Who made whatever? It's such a veiled threat that like

775
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: it is a it is an actual TikTok trend where

776
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: people go who made this? In restaurants and you can

777
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: see the fear behind the counter. Everybody's like uh uh,

778
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: and finally someone will have to be normally the person

779
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: that can't avoid It's like a chef and a chef

780
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: hat it's like I made it, and they're like, because

781
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: this is great and It's like, that's the flip because

782
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: it never means that. Now you know it does. It's

783
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: so shocking.

784
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 5: And in black households it gets so serious.

785
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Now.

786
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 5: It was years ago one of my aunts. I love her,

787
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 5: but she can't cook it. Everybody know she can't cook

788
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: like like it is like.

789
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 6: No, we have functions at her house, but everybody bring

790
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 6: the food to her house.

791
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 5: She's not allowed to cook anything. Honness, she made what

792
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 5: was it? What was it?

793
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: It was BlackBerry pie. She means the BlackBerry pie. And

794
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 6: I don't know what she called herself doing a BlackBerry

795
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 6: pie cause you know black people and BlackBerry pie. It's

796
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 6: some black people that love black beard pie. I know

797
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 6: you do out there. Don't write in I understand y'all

798
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 6: just setting it right now. The one person that love

799
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: BlackBerry pie, don't. We don't need the synopsis about you.

800
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: But overall, y'all know where y'all go to functions, nobody

801
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: is asking for no BlackBerry pie. So I just want

802
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 6: to I just want to put that up front because

803
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 6: I know we're gonna get to get the one. And

804
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 6: so she didn't put enough sugar in it because black

805
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: parents are tart on it own and so nobody knew this.

806
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: And what was hilarious was everybody was like, well, you know,

807
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 6: because we were a.

808
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: Kids, so we wore look like who did this?

809
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: You know who?

810
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 5: Kids? And uh me and my cousin look at you.

811
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 5: He was like you try. Everybody was like so my

812
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 5: cousin beat into it in his face. I was like, well,

813
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 5: I'm not trying it then, and you know what I live.

814
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: You know, I got real black people.

815
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 6: One of my other one of her sisters, went off

816
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: to my why you make this girl?

817
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: You know you can't come.

818
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: To putting up.

819
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 5: So then it was like a whole ordeal.

820
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 6: Because sister sister went out, you got these kids trying, y'all,

821
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: but don't.

822
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: Nobody want that.

823
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: And it's always the sibling too.

824
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 7: It's like there will be like the first four or

825
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 7: five people who trying are all going to be like, oh,

826
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 7: you know.

827
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting, yeah it's different.

828
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 7: But but that sixth person, yeah, he's always just gonna

829
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 7: be like, no, this is true.

830
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: Because I'll be trying to be polite and like, because

831
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: that's when food is nasty. It's just nasty. There's really

832
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: no in between, and just I try to be polite

833
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: but it always ends up sounding like I'm trying to

834
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: figure out where you went wrong, you know, like it's like, so,

835
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: what were wrong in life? So what made you want

836
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: to bake a pie? What? What was that? Like? You know,

837
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: and where you get this recipe from?

838
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so you just what was your motive?

839
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 5: What's your motivation? Yeah?

840
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: Where were you on the night were you inspired? Where

841
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: were you at on the night of the fifteenth when you.

842
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: And those you have some uh some red spatter?

843
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? What is that? Yes?

844
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I got a quick question.

845
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Where do you get off? Just where do you get

846
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: the nerves?

847
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

848
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes?

849
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: And so you know, people wonder why you know, some

850
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 6: black people they either don't do potlucks with the company

851
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 6: or either they'll ask.

852
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we did a whole episode. I can't remember

853
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: the number of the episode, but it was just about

854
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: the company office potluck and just I think a lot

855
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: of people do not understand how treacherous it is to

856
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: just have people cook that we don't know anything about

857
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: them or they're cooking.

858
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,959
Speaker 5: Yeah for us, I.

859
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Remember for years at jobs, it would be the most

860
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: awkward day because they would do the potluck and they

861
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: and one they try to make it count for your lunch,

862
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: which never nice try.

863
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 5: No would participate.

864
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: Devin like, but you're going right, oh my lunch not

865
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Speaker 6: They be like, but you gave five dollars.

866
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: Yes, I put five dollars in and I've gone on

867
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 5: the lunch. I'm putting five dollars.

868
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: In the record. Yeah. My five dollars is to shut

869
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: the hell up. Five dollars. It's not a five dollars

870
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: to support what y'all doing. It's five dollars leave me alone,

871
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: y'all go do that thing. Because if I'm not bringing

872
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: a dish, that means I really don't want to participate.

873
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: But I remember, just like at least in my office.

874
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I can't speak for every office, but and this is

875
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: why diversity matters everybody. Okay, at my office, I just

876
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: followed the lead of the black women that work there

877
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: because they will vet the meals, you know, like it's

878
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: like a tour guide to the meals. Or they'd be

879
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: like and you can see them like literally like if

880
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: you know anything about baseball, how like a picture and

881
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: a catcher like they throw signs and then the catcher

882
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: like shakes his head like don't throw this pitch through

883
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: this pitch right or whatever, or the picture shakes his head.

884
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: There's like a there's like a communication non verbally. That

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: is what the black women were doing during the pop

886
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: look because you be like, oh, gonna get some of

887
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: this casserole, and they'd be like, that's not the three down.

888
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

889
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, I'm not gonna I'm gonna get

890
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: some of these greens. These greens are okay.

891
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 6: Or either or either you do like me, you get

892
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 6: a little bit of everything. What I used to do

893
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 6: is get a little bit of everything not to hurt

894
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 6: people feel us, and then get to my desk and

895
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: just throw everything in the track.

896
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll see if it's good. And I know

897
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: people that made it, I don't mind because like sometimes

898
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: it really I like listen, there were a few people

899
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to the pot look like. They

900
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you know, I'm gonna go ahead and

901
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: bring in my macaroni and cheese. I'm like, oh you okay,

902
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: what time are you getting here?

903
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

904
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: But there was a there was like also like the

905
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: cat lady and I was like, don't want.

906
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: To try your cassero or the dogs up on the counter.

907
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, I don't want that.

908
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just like you know, there's no shame in

909
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 7: trying a new recipe or trying something new and happening

910
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 7: I work out the first time.

911
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 5: That's but you need to perfect.

912
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Don't don't take that to the don't don't take that to.

913
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 5: The poplu Yeah, don't be bringing no weird stuff, babe.

914
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 5: Don't know about about your raccoon? Who racoon? Why'd you

915
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 5: bring this to the pot?

916
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: Look, this episode is brought to you by Reese's Peanut

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924
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Speaker 3: Just think about think about the audience. Yeah, the audience.

925
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: You know, what are you trying to do?

926
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: Our work to do that? Hunted and he brought venison

927
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: chili in once it was dear chili, and I didn't

928
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: complain because one he was definitely to do that would

929
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: shoot up the job, like like he like he had

930
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: the vibe. I needed me and him needed to be

931
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: real tight. Okay, I'm trying to put them in the

932
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: circle of trust because I'm gonna need that phone call

933
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: from the parking lot, you know what I'm saying, just

934
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: in case. But so the second reason, though, the second

935
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: reason I tried it though, is because it was exotic

936
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: enough for me to be like, I don't know, is

937
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: that good? And I'm not gonna lie y'all. It was

938
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: dear delicious. It was so damn good he put in

939
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: that chilly Okay, it was so good. I called him

940
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: to day if I still had his number, But I

941
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: don't want him to catch no flashbacks, you know what

942
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: I mean?

943
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: Good, good, good, you know, like stuff like that.

944
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 7: It's like it's so nice when something that you're not

945
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 7: expecting to be really really great really turns out well.

946
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: You know.

947
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of people think that we're

948
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 7: constantly going in hoping that everything's bad, which just like, no,

949
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 7: we're open to trying new things. We just need to

950
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 7: know that there's like an established relationship here, Like I

951
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 7: need to know I can trust you exactly.

952
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: Absolutely tough when you so, how much of your job

953
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: was trying food? Like, you know, I know you talk

954
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: about food, but how much of your job has been

955
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: like going to eat somebody's food?

956
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it's a It's definitely an

957
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: important part of.

958
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 7: A lot of what I do, just because it's about,

959
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 7: you know, making sure that I'm keeping up with what's

960
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 7: actually out there, like what are people actually cooking?

961
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: What are people actually making? You know?

962
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 7: So I think especially when I was at boutupa seed

963
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 7: and even with the work that I'm doing now for

964
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 7: eating and with the podcast, it's a lot of like saying, Okay,

965
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 7: are people actually going to make this do?

966
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: Is this actually worth saying?

967
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: Like, Hey, I put my name on this, I trust this,

968
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 7: Like this is something I actually recommend you know, right,

969
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 7: So it matters a lot. But I think a lot

970
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 7: of people forget that, you know, it is about trust.

971
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 7: You are you know, managing this relationship with these people? Yeah,

972
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 7: we're really just saying like I just need something different,

973
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 7: and that's okay to say.

974
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: And how about the pandemic? How's it affected you know,

975
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: the industry for you and you know your job specifically,

976
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: but just the industry as a whole as well.

977
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

978
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 7: So I was really lucky just because Either has a

979
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 7: network of like incredibly talented journalists and reporters who are

980
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 7: out hitting the streets every day talking to people making

981
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 7: sure that they're stand up to being on all the news.

982
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 7: So a lot of what we were doing was just saying, Okay,

983
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 7: well we see all these different ways that restaurants are

984
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 7: getting creative with how they're.

985
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: Adapted to the pandemic.

986
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 7: Okay, so their dining rooms are closed, so maybe they're

987
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 7: doing pop ups and they're cooking in the park, or

988
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 7: maybe they're letting people come and pick up meals, or

989
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 7: you know, maybe they're doing fundraisers for their staffs who

990
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 7: you know, were really depending on those paychecks, right. Like,

991
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 7: it was really just fun to see so much innovation

992
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 7: and imagination kind of come out of something that was

993
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 7: really devastating.

994
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 6: You know, do you think the pandemic will actually change

995
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: the food industry forever? Like some of these things they

996
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 6: implement it, do you think they're going to stay? I

997
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 6: know a lot of the parking spaces that would designate.

998
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 5: It for delivery, a lot of those are staying.

999
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 6: You know, how you park and you down a number

1000
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 6: a lot of for some places that got created because

1001
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 6: of the pandemic and it kind of stayed. There's some

1002
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 6: other trends that you see happening that you like, Oh,

1003
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 6: these things are going to stay because of the pandemic.

1004
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Like I think already, you know, the pandemic's

1005
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 7: impact on the industry is irreversible. Like I feel like

1006
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: so many people who didn't already have to go cocktails

1007
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 7: in their states now have access to restaurants on bars

1008
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 7: that are doing to go cocktails. Like I think that's

1009
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 7: one of those things that people only associate with like

1010
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 7: certain parts of the country, right, but now they're just like, oh.

1011
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: Wait, we can do this all the time, right. Yeah. Also,

1012
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: I think, you know, the public is so much more

1013
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: aware of just all the restaurant workers.

1014
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 7: Are really doing just to get that a dish in

1015
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 7: front of you, you know, Like I think for a

1016
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 7: long time there was a lot of.

1017
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: Barriers to really.

1018
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 7: Recognizing how much goes in to just getting that plate

1019
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 7: onto that table.

1020
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: That mystery.

1021
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're saying the people that go out to eat

1022
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: tip more now like less people go out but more,

1023
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: but they tip higher. And I think a lot of

1024
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: that is because, especially with so much of the pandemic

1025
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: food service people being on the front line. I think

1026
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: there has to be a level of appreciation. If you

1027
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: didn't have it already, then you need to have it now.

1028
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Becau's like yo, they literally were risking their life even

1029
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: before there were vaccines. There were people that still had

1030
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: to go do that job and they're wearing a mask

1031
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: and everyone around them isn't. And a lot of the

1032
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: people that we lost in the pandemic were frontline workers

1033
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Another thing that changed in the

1034
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: pandemic fancy places, yes that do to go and take

1035
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: out now, you know.

1036
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 5: Like who never had it on that then you weren't

1037
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 5: even an option.

1038
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I looked on door Dash and there was like

1039
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: a Palm restaurant and Sullivans and stuff like that. These

1040
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: places where you need to wear like a suit and

1041
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: tie just to walk in the door. They're like, get

1042
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: this sixty dollars steak delivered to your house. Because it

1043
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: really just brought a lot of these companies to either

1044
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: to their feet or to the forefront of the game

1045
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, you gotta get out here and make

1046
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: this money, how you can have.

1047
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: You seen.

1048
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 6: Restaurants the quality of the food change, because we're talking

1049
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 6: about frontline workers and this is mine.

1050
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 5: I guess my educated guests.

1051
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 6: Some of the people that passed were the people that

1052
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 6: actually knew the recipes, and once they passed, other people

1053
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: might have known it and it might be written down somewhere,

1054
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 6: but they may have tweaked it just a certain way

1055
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 6: and didn't share with people.

1056
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 5: So when they.

1057
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 6: Passed, when people go, I've heard people say these restaurants

1058
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 6: aren't the same anymore, and I know that has to

1059
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 6: do with these people have passed. But is there any

1060
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 6: restaurants you was like, well, the quality has went down,

1061
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 6: and or maybe the quality has went up because of

1062
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 6: the pandemic.

1063
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's you know, there's not just one

1064
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 7: reason for all that, but I think it's definitely a

1065
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 7: factor in it.

1066
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: You know, Like I think during.

1067
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 7: The pandemic, we got so aware of just the fact

1068
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 7: that like all these legends, all these icons, all these

1069
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 7: people both in our families and in the restaurant industry

1070
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 7: that we just assume we're always going to be around forever,

1071
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 7: weren't going to be you know, so for the first time,

1072
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 7: you had people saying, oh wait, I actually really need

1073
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 7: to make sure we're writing down you know, these recipes,

1074
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 7: need to make sure that we're honoring you know, these

1075
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 7: icons and not waiting for some perfect moment to do

1076
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 7: so because you know, no one.

1077
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: Wants to think about it, but like they're not going

1078
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: to be here forever.

1079
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1080
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 7: At the same time, you see all these restaurants that

1081
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 7: are you know, juggling having to grieve the loss of

1082
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 7: like these members of their community that were so important,

1083
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 7: so crucial to what that restaurant was, but also having

1084
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 7: to deal with the fact that like they literally can't

1085
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 7: even get the same ingredients and supplies like they Yeah,

1086
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 7: there are shortages in everything. Everything is so much more expensive.

1087
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 7: You know, if you think that consumers are really going

1088
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 7: through it with with how hard it's been to get

1089
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 7: so many supplies and ingredients, which we have been don't

1090
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 7: get me wrong, it's been also really really hard for

1091
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 7: so many of these restaurants who are just saying, you know,

1092
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 7: the people that we were expecting to be able to

1093
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 7: rely on, we can't even get the basics of they work.

1094
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 7: And people were saying, oh, yeah, chicken wings, we can't

1095
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 7: even find them anymore.

1096
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Speaker 1: Right, And talent is also a resource, and so another

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: thing that the pandemic did was to spread talents. Then, right,

1098
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who had to step back.

1099
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who, hey, I need

1100
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: to get.

1101
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 5: Paid more, left the industry, take care of me.

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00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: People, Yeah, people left the industry stuff like that. So

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00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: a lot of this food is probably being prepared about

1104
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: people that just got this job, you know, Like you know,

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00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean, what restaurant don't you go to now with

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00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: a now hiring sign out front? Like it is, like,

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00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: I think that knowledge base that was lost, whether it

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00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 1: be just like you said, it could be death related,

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: it could be illness related, could be just hey, I

1110
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: don't want to risk my health for this job, you know.

1111
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: And it's hard to get people to come back and

1112
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: do that stuff. So what let me ask you this though,

1113
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: what about the pandemic? What was it about it that

1114
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: made every company decide they need a chicken sandwich?

1115
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 5: Mom, I'm coming out with it. You'd be like, you

1116
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 5: don't even specialize in chicken. We got to check a

1117
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: sandwich the way.

1118
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: The way folks were losing their mind.

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00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: So during most of the pandemic, I was living in

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00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 7: Brooklyn and people were lining up. We had the Pope's

1121
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 7: across the street from us. It went down out the store,

1122
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 7: around the corner and down the block and I was just.

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: Like, this is a sandwich. Yeah, y'all, y'all know what

1124
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 3: this tastes like.

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Speaker 1: And I like, I remember, I was just like, I

1126
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: wait to the line? Does now right? But it was

1127
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: going on like two weeks three, like, and I remember

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: my friend telling me, Hey, you know, Papa has an app.

1129
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: I was like, they have an app? Well, like, does

1130
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: it do they? I mean, it's still Pope's. Like do

1131
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: they abide by the app? Or is it just like

1132
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm older on the app? And then I'm gonna get

1133
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: there and they're gonna be like, you know, you'll get

1134
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: it when you get it. And he was like, no,

1135
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: you can just go on the app, walk in, grab

1136
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: your chicken, and leave. And I did that, just walking

1137
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: past a block full of hungry people waiting on chicken.

1138
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: It felt so good, like I'm not one percent, but

1139
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I understand why the one percent people are like, I'm

1140
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: trying to stay one percent, you know what I mean?

1141
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Because they that felt like privilege when I walked through

1142
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: all those hungry faces, and they were like, I noticed, fool,

1143
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: ain't skipping the line. I was like, actually, I used

1144
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: the app and then I just got my two chicken

1145
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: sandwiches and they were good. But now I feel like

1146
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: everyone eat. I read Today Today, y'all, it's twenty twenty two.

1147
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: But if you look May eighteen, twenty twenty two, in

1148
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: case you're an alien, can just twenty one hundreds of

1149
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: years later the Popaea's chicken sandwich came out like two

1150
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: years ago. This wingstop is is experimenting with a chicken

1151
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: sandwich to day, y'all sell chicken?

1152
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 6: What is the they say, the tiniest chicken zamba, But

1153
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: yes they do sell chicken.

1154
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: Who is who is waiting on this? Who is this for?

1155
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1156
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, meanwhile, wings is in shortage, but chicken in general,

1157
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: I guess not in short.

1158
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 6: Don't yet they got all the other pieces, but the

1159
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 6: wings I don't know anyway.

1160
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: But it's also just like.

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00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 7: I see a lot of people in the chat talking

1162
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 7: about the comfort of it, and I get, you know, like,

1163
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 7: for so long, so many.

1164
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: People who were so used to going out, we're.

1165
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 7: So used to, you know, finding relief for a little

1166
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 7: bit of a moment of peace outside of the home

1167
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 7: or out like so then when we had this like

1168
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 7: big thing that everyone could kind of get into, you know, yeah,

1169
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 7: it's it's it's annoyingly expensive for what a chicken sandwich

1170
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 7: could be, but it's also like it's something that still

1171
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 7: act HAPs that's.

1172
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: A great one.

1173
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: That's such a great.

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00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 7: It's both like comfort and then also knowing that like,

1175
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 7: oh wait, it's a reminder I'm not in this alone.

1176
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: Other people are going through that.

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00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 6: Yes, because that is what it became like a conversational

1178
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 6: piece because everybody was asking everybody had they tried?

1179
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: Did you try? People was posting their videos. I remember

1180
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: we tried to. We like reviewed it on the podcast.

1181
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: It was like a community moment and a time where

1182
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: we didn't really have community because you know, coming together

1183
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: at that time was like asking half the people to

1184
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: die because the coronavirus. Like that's a great fucking point.

1185
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: That's listen, that's why Jesse gets paid. Okay, what what about?

1186
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 6: Uh?

1187
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: Do you watch cooking and pay him more? Is what

1188
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: we're trying to say. If you're listening to this eater,

1189
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Come off the come off

1190
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: of that walk. I'm trying to help him secure the bag.

1191
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: We can say you don't got to say it. We

1192
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: can say it, what are you do you watch cooking shows?

1193
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: Or is that like you know, this is my recreation time.

1194
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: I want to not consume the cooking as recreation.

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00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 3: You know. It's a little bit of both.

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 7: It's like I love I love the shows, like I

1197
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 7: grew up on on so many of these shows, right,

1198
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 7: like cooking the recipes from the TV as we're watching it.

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Speaker 7: But then also like there are times where I just say,

1200
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 7: I'm exhausted. I've been thinking about food and all the

1201
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 7: logistics and all the bad behavior that goes on behind

1202
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 7: the scenes all day. Like I just let me just

1203
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 7: turn my brain off, you know, and just do something else,

1204
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 7: like the same way other people are just like you

1205
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 7: know what, I'm an accountant. I've been looking at numbers

1206
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 7: all day. What I'm not about to do is sit

1207
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 7: here and do some more expenses.

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00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: For fun, right you know. Yeah, it's like a lot

1209
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 3: of people, it's like work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. We review movies as part we're

1211
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: movie critics, and then every once in a while someone

1212
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: will be like, hey, you should watch this and review it,

1213
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that just is work. Now, I don't

1214
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: mind watching it, right, like watching it, I might do that,

1215
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, because it's like, oh, I do like movies.

1216
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: But once you start talking about reviewing or recapping or

1217
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: whatever the hell that means, now you're talking about me

1218
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 1: doing some work. And I don't like that part of it.

1219
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 7: But how do y'all go about just kind of something

1220
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 7: that boundary with themselves and just saying, you know, this

1221
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 7: is the stuff that's for pleasure for us, and then

1222
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 7: this is the stuff that's for work.

1223
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're workaholics, but I've gotten really good about setting

1224
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: the boundary. And you know, of course it's Karen tells

1225
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: you earlier. She's very much like, we can do anything.

1226
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: And when she's right, it's not it's like, just because

1227
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: we can don't mean we should burn ourselves out, because

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: the last thing I would want to do is burn

1229
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: myself out on something I love because that sounds like hell.

1230
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: So it's like there's times where we're watching something, I'm like,

1231
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: we're just watching this. This is not no recap, no review,

1232
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: no nothing. We're just having a good time. And I

1233
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: think that's a big part of it for me. But

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00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: also I want to say, like I feel like cooking

1235
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: shows have kind of evolved somewhere because one, you have

1236
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: your YouTube stuff, right, So that's cool a lot of people.

1237
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: It's very accessible and I love watching like a quick

1238
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: YouTube person. That is so great, especially those those YouTube

1239
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: people who know how to edit. No offense to my

1240
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: long winded folks, but.

1241
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 6: You know, you know you need to get you a professional.

1242
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 6: You know, it's the reason why you have somebody. We're

1243
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 6: gonna cut to the hands, we're gonna cut to the chopping,

1244
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 6: We're gonna cut to this all right, boom and listen.

1245
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: Listen. People going like I don't want that same vibe

1246
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: I get when I go on all recipes and the

1247
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: recipe description Step one is my mother left Poland in

1248
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty and I'm like, nope, I just want to

1249
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: know how many eggs. That's what I came to find out.

1250
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 6: Now, some of them happy to the button says skip

1251
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 6: to the bottle. It's like, yes, skip to the recipes.

1252
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: Care about that.

1253
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: But in addition to those people, right, so it's more ubiquitous,

1254
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: is more accessible, there's also some high production stuff like

1255
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: how on the hog? You know why am I forgetting

1256
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: my man. Uh, it's like salt God, I'm fucking up

1257
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: the name. But just there there's like these high production

1258
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: value shows that come to streaming services and stuff, even

1259
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: the funny ones, right like, uh, the one where they

1260
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: try to make cakes. They fuck up the cakes every time.

1261
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: There's like a lot. It's different than when we were

1262
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: coming up. Yes, that's it. Yeah it was. It's different

1263
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: than when we were coming up. I feel like when

1264
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: we were coming up, it was very much like, here

1265
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: are the steps to make this, which is which I

1266
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: still look. My favorite. One of my favorite shows is

1267
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: Fish the Dish Like this, it's twenty minutes long. They

1268
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: teach you how to make three different recipes and each

1269
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: recipe takes about seven minutes for them to like chop

1270
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: it up, and it's beautiful and it's relaxing and all

1271
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: that stuff. But then they're just like stuff like how

1272
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: on the hall where they like, literally, I'm gonna go

1273
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: to Africa, tell you how they source the ingredients, tell

1274
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: you the history of this recipe, the history of the

1275
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: people who made it. That we have so much, uh,

1276
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: we have so much variety now in the cooking game,

1277
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: and I think that's that's really cool.

1278
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's it's amazing.

1279
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 7: And it's just like there's never been a better time

1280
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 7: to really want to get into cooking done right now,

1281
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 7: because no matter what it is you want to do,

1282
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 7: there's a way to do it, you know, whether it's

1283
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 7: like starting out with just some little tiktoks and just saying, Okay,

1284
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 7: I have five minutes to figure out what I'm gonna

1285
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 7: make for dinner, and you can you can scroll through

1286
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 7: some little twenty second videos and find something, or you

1287
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 7: can sit down on and.

1288
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 3: Just watch how I'm the hot guy zer were saying.

1289
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, even just like these intense and highly specific like

1290
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 7: cooking competition shows. Yeah, and still say like, you know what,

1291
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 7: actually I can find inspiration from any of these things.

1292
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: You can.

1293
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: And also what I've realized too, I know cooking could

1294
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 6: be very intimidating, but like I said, you can start simple.

1295
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 6: Make a grilled cheese soundch like. I don't know everybody

1296
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 6: think you have to jump in frying fish and frying chicken.

1297
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 6: The first time I fried chicken, I tried to kill everybody.

1298
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 6: They Mama, I didn't know what I was doing in there.

1299
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 6: I had the grease turned up and see that's the

1300
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 6: part they don't tell y'all about cooking. Everybody that's an

1301
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 6: excellent chef. Trust they have burnt something, something that's been underdone, overdumb.

1302
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: But stakes are part of the process, right.

1303
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 6: But they don't show you that when you go online.

1304
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 6: All they show you is the pretty pictures with the olive.

1305
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: Bowl and the coconut oil all scraped down.

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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: Like learning how to salvage a meal, it's like, that's

1307
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: the next level shit. Like I remember the cause it's

1308
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: kind of science, you know, with a lot of cooking

1309
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: stuff as much as it's just love. And it's a

1310
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: lot of it's just like this many degrees, this much liquid,

1311
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: this much solid, And but I do remember like learning,

1312
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: like wait, I think and the first time I did,

1313
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: like save some rice, I was like, oh, no, I

1314
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: made it. I fucked up the right. Wait if I

1315
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: add water and I do this, it's like and I

1316
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: saved the rice. And I was like so proud of myself.

1317
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: But it would have only happened because I had made

1318
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: the mistake.

1319
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah enough times, oh.

1320
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: To get the idea, Like that's a big part of

1321
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: the process, yes, and.

1322
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 6: Even simple things is if something is too wet, what

1323
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 6: to do if something is too dry? What to do,

1324
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 6: you know, because sometimes there's things where you can take

1325
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 6: moisture out. If something is too too tart. What to

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01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 6: do if something is too sweet? Because I think I

1327
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 6: made something it was too sweet and I couldn't figure

1328
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 6: it out. So I googled and it was like, well

1329
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 6: if something is too sweet, I was and you know

1330
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 6: what I did.

1331
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 5: I was like, oh snap, it took all the sweetness

1332
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 5: out of it.

1333
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 6: I was like, let's go so you'll be amazed at

1334
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 6: the little things. Well before I probably would have just

1335
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 6: threw the whole thing way and you were like, there's

1336
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 6: no reason to throw the whole thing.

1337
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 5: Out when it could actually be corrected.

1338
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, some sugar and some tomatoes or something. You'd be like,

1339
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: what did I just do? Science? That's what you did.

1340
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 7: And it's literally just like exactly like you were saying,

1341
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 7: start with the grilled cheese and say, okay, well what

1342
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 7: happens if I add tomatoes to the grilled cheese, or

1343
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 7: what happens if I add bacon.

1344
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: I just haven't travel for what happens if we add bacon.

1345
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 7: You know, you don't need to be the dive all

1346
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 7: in get it right every single step of the way things.

1347
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: Now, do you have you traveled for food? And if so,

1348
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: like what's the best food city for you? Like the

1349
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: place where you like this? This is wuld be cooking.

1350
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 7: Oh see, y'all are trying to get me in trouble.

1351
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 7: Y'all gonna have this whole chat because something else.

1352
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: I think you know I have traveled for food, have

1353
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: traveled for work.

1354
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 7: I I feel like I have to say my favorite

1355
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 7: foods that you're at the moment is Houston, just because.

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 6: There's an I want to go and I say everything

1357
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 6: in Texas.

1358
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: I want to know one day.

1359
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's home to it's home to that. What is

1360
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: that restaurant? Karen? I always look at on Instagram where

1361
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: it's Turkey Leg. Hut the Turkey Leg.

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01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you TPS.

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01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: It is home And I don't know if y'all have

1364
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: seen the Turkey Leg.

1365
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: Want to show the pictures?

1366
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: I will show y'all. I will go to their Instagram

1367
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: right now and show y'all.

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01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 6: We follow them on line, yes, but this is shot

1369
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 6: after three guys on It is damn near uh pornographic.

1370
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: What goes on on the Turkey Leg Instagram?

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01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 7: There are moments where I'm just like, after getting off Instagram,

1372
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 7: I'm like, I think I need Jesus because this.

1373
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: Is but I just have.

1374
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 5: The things I want to do.

1375
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: Do that food like it's the thirst trap of the

1376
01:05:55,800 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: best kind. This is. This is just like some of

1377
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: their some of their servings and occasion they'll put up

1378
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: they got a food truck now, wow? Wow? Oh man,

1379
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: I know I know that line is off the chain.

1380
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 5: Every now and then they do them videos.

1381
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna find a video of them taking

1382
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: They always give you videos of them pulling the turkey

1383
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: leg off of the off of the bone. Yes, and yeah,

1384
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: they got a truck. Oh wow, they came up. Man,

1385
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh look at this.

1386
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: Look at this.

1387
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 1: Just raise them, teach them and raise them in the

1388
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: way they're supposed to go.

1389
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 6: Do it.

1390
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: Won't he do it?

1391
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 5: Oh?

1392
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: What is this?

1393
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: Look a look at.

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01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, a good time.

1395
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 5: You're trying to find a video. I know, have to

1396
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 5: scroll down, y'all.

1397
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: Scrolling down. Rick Ross is in there. I'm just getting updates.

1398
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: Now I didn't they got concerts. Man, they really blew up.

1399
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1400
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: I just remember when this was like just crawfish. Oh

1401
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: my god, Okay, here's one. This gotta be twillling the bone.

1402
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: This is a oh my god. Look oh it's just

1403
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: showing us the food. Okay, macarain cheese on top of

1404
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: a turkey leg looks so delicious, Like like, I know

1405
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: it's not good for you. It's got to be delicious.

1406
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't come here for healthiness.

1407
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: I know why I came, and I know why I came,

1408
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 6: and it wouldn't account calories.

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01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm.

1410
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: Not here to shod myself. I'm gonna eat what I'm

1411
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 3: gonna eat. I'm gonna have a good time. I'm gonna

1412
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: drain my company and anything beyond that. It's above me.

1413
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: It's above me. It's above me. Listen, they got gumbo. Now, Okay,

1414
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get off this page because this is not

1415
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: even this is not what that's not what this podcast

1416
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: is supposed to be. I'm trying to but I can't

1417
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: find it. Yeah, but but they got this. And then

1418
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: they also have this like seafood restaurant that I follow

1419
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram. So I believe you when you say Houston,

1420
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: I want to go there.

1421
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 5: I gotta tryal this food. Yeah, and Houston and I

1422
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 5: want to go to Louisiana. That's somewhere else.

1423
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, New Orleans. I want to go to New Orleans.

1424
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: And I heard Turkey leg Hut now has one hundred

1425
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: dollars deposit to have a seat, but your meal comes

1426
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: out of a hundred. But just the fact that the

1427
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: fact that they know that they could pull that move, yes,

1428
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: because it tells you how good the food must be.

1429
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, because I because most of the clientel is black.

1430
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: We ain't partner with one hundred dollars unless we know.

1431
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know it's good. Another

1432
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you about too, so you

1433
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: talked about earlier, just like some of the stuff behind

1434
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: the scenes of cooking and like personalities and stuff. And

1435
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 1: I always feel like cooking is a the food industry

1436
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: is an industry that can be right for like abuse,

1437
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: obviously appropriation, all these different things because one the way

1438
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: chefs are treated, the way the kitchen is treated. I

1439
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: still remember when I mean Gordon Ramsey's famous for yelling

1440
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: at people at work, you know, and we're like, oh,

1441
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: put that on TV. But I got that must be

1442
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: dozens of wanna be chef Gordon Ramseys. They ain't making

1443
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: chef Gordon Ramsey, money or whatever. They just yelling at

1444
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: somebody at a hop. So when you talk about some

1445
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: of that behind the scenes stuff, what exactly is that

1446
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: like And have you ever had to deal with that

1447
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: experience or report on that.

1448
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1449
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 7: So, I mean a lot of kitchens are notorious for

1450
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 7: being super high stress, super intense environments because if you

1451
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 7: think about it, the number of people are trying to

1452
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 7: serve the dump the amount of food that they're trying

1453
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 7: to turn out and have it be consistent.

1454
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 3: Every single time. That's a lot of pressure.

1455
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 7: Like how many times have we at home made a

1456
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 7: recipe once one week and then again the next.

1457
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: Week and been like, oh it was a little bit different.

1458
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 3: I wonder what I did.

1459
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 7: But but like that's that's just grace that a lot

1460
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 7: of people who are actually cooking the food don't get,

1461
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 7: you know. So there's a lot of a lot of pressure,

1462
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 7: a lot of frustrations, And there's so many chefs that

1463
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 7: have been coming out and saying like, oh, yeah, I

1464
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 7: either had or have a temper problem or an anger

1465
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 7: and I have to I have to own up to that,

1466
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 7: I have to take responsibility for that.

1467
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 3: At the same time, there are a lot of situations.

1468
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 7: Of sexual misconduct, you know, unwanted groping or touching, unwanted

1469
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 7: you know, sexual advances. There have been a lot of

1470
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 7: times about you know, where just people who have certain

1471
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 7: amounts of power in these places, you know, abuse it

1472
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 7: and really take advantage of workers, whether that's you know,

1473
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 7: actual sexual assault or whether it's just you know, getting

1474
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 7: away with things that they shouldn't be doing in the

1475
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 7: first place, just because they know that there's not really

1476
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 7: anyone else there to check them on it.

1477
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and do you feel that or do you is

1478
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: there pressure on you on the journalistic end, Like, are

1479
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: you like, man if I say this chef is accused

1480
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: of blank, there we repercussion for my company or for

1481
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: me personally? Do you ever feel like that type of pressure?

1482
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 7: It's I don't necessarily try to treat it as pressure

1483
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 7: because it's more just like, at the end of the day,

1484
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 7: if I know the second I know that someone is

1485
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 7: responsible for some top of behavior that I don't agree with, right, I'm.

1486
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: Not going to enable them. I'm not putting them, I'm.

1487
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 7: Not giving them a platform. I'm not focusing on, you know,

1488
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 7: hiding what they do. Right, you know, behind the scenes

1489
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 7: are behind closed doors, because at the end of the day,

1490
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 7: it all matters.

1491
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 3: What happens behind the.

1492
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 7: Scenes still impacts the customers and everyone that's working there,

1493
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 7: Like restaurant workers deserve to be.

1494
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: Heard and have their experiences holidated.

1495
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 7: You know, So who am I high to overlook someone

1496
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 7: else's by behavior just because I like the way that.

1497
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 3: They you know, make wings or whatever. Right, So.

1498
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 1: To think about it's such a rigged industry. I mean,

1499
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: all industries are ready, but it's such a rigged industry

1500
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: at the top because while in society women probably do

1501
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: sixty seventy five percent of cooking, when it comes to chefs,

1502
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like that's a man's area. Okay,

1503
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: men are chefs, And you're like, well, I don't know.

1504
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: Being a black person in America, I have some history

1505
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: with this. Probably a rig game when when the top

1506
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,480
Speaker 1: line is all one thing, probably not fair to everybody.

1507
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Like I feel like people forget that. Like

1508
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 7: to get a restaurant in the first place, it takes.

1509
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 3: A lot of work.

1510
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 5: It's a lot of money, that's it. Yeah, it's like

1511
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 5: they price people out.

1512
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 6: Yes, do you have some an investor, you have somebody

1513
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 6: willing to believe in you. You have somebody that's willing

1514
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 6: to see your vision. Because the thing about black and

1515
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 6: brown and modulizing these other people, their vision is going

1516
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 6: to be different than straight white people.

1517
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: And so a lot of times we know.

1518
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 6: Things that work for our community, but because a lot

1519
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 6: of them never experienced it and they don't understand a

1520
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 6: lot of times they'll pass up on something just out

1521
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 6: of their lack of knowledge. And then guess what, like

1522
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 6: we always do, we'll turn around, make it on the own.

1523
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 5: It big, a bazillion dollar industry, and then.

1524
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 6: They'll be like breaking brand new and deck like it's

1525
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 6: always a surprise when it's like, no, these markets are

1526
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 6: always served.

1527
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: I saw that the Slutty Vegan just got money to

1528
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: do an extension. I want to say it was reported today,

1529
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: but the study Vegan has been a successful restaurant for

1530
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 1: years before somebody like, we should get on some more money.

1531
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: You know what would be good making more money with them.

1532
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm like a lot of people get that break coming

1533
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: into game. You don't have to work ten years to

1534
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: prove yourself.

1535
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's and even with pinky situation, it's just

1536
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 7: like you can work and making headlines for years.

1537
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and like so much.

1538
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 7: Of that required her to just do it on her

1539
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 7: own terms, you know. And I think for so many

1540
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 7: people they can get really discouraged when they're just like, oh, well,

1541
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 7: my path doesn't look like other people. So maybe that

1542
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 7: means I'm not meant to be in this industry, or

1543
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 7: maybe that means I'm not supposed to do this thing.

1544
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's not the case.

1545
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 6: No, that's not the case. Yes, And it can be discouraging.

1546
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 6: And it's one of the things, particularly being black, you

1547
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 6: have to rely on your ancests. You go, Okay, if

1548
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 6: you put something in front of me, what have we done.

1549
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: We've knocked it down.

1550
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 6: And if you you know, you shut this, will we'll

1551
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 6: apply like this, We'll go under it, we'll go over it,

1552
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 6: we'll go through it, We'll do what we have to

1553
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 6: do to make it happen. And Roger says something and

1554
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 6: I will always truly believe this. For a lot of

1555
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 6: modulized people, you don't get the outside help until you

1556
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 6: really don't need it, like like like once you get

1557
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 6: to the point where you.

1558
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: Like after you like I always say, is it's rare,

1559
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: not that it never happens, but it's very rare that

1560
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: a marginalized person gets help in something they couldn't have

1561
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: done for themselves. Like a lot of times it's like

1562
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 1: people try to run game on you where it's like, hey,

1563
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: you know what you guys should do with your podcast?

1564
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: You should do a live show. And I'm like, we

1565
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 1: can do a live show. We don't need you, like.

1566
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 5: Like you can't trick me.

1567
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: Like like now if you said if you came to

1568
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: me and we're like, we could book a tour for you,

1569
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: that might be something I can't do on my own, right,

1570
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: but guess when that opportunity will unveil yourself? Probably after

1571
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: I've done it on my own, you know what I mean.

1572
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: So it can be difficult that way. You also were

1573
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: at Bon Appetite when they had like their big like

1574
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: blow up and stuff, how like one Like what was

1575
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: it like being a focal point for that cause I

1576
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: like I found out about it by listening to a podcast.

1577
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: God I can't marry that with something kitchen. But it

1578
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: was like, like we're talking about this scandal. But then

1579
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: that podcast by reply all started people a reply all

1580
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: being like, well, now that you bring up discrimination and racism.

1581
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 5: You got some problem.

1582
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: So like it was, it was like such a it

1583
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 1: was such a funny conundrum. I mean, on the outside

1584
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: looking in, obviously it was a funny conundum because it

1585
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: was like they were trying to bust somebody, but then

1586
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: they weren't clean. Like what was it like working there

1587
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: in the time, And was that like something you experienced

1588
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: yourself firsthand?

1589
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think it was definitely something that it

1590
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 7: was definitely stuff that I had experienced firsthand.

1591
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 3: And it was more like.

1592
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 7: Kind of getting this mixed bag of like sometimes it's

1593
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 7: awesome sometimes.

1594
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: Like you have the dream job.

1595
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 7: You get to you get to test all these recipes,

1596
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 7: you get to taste other people's cooking who do it

1597
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 7: professionally and have so much knowledge, you know, you get

1598
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 7: to learn from all these people that are just so

1599
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 7: dang smart, you know. But then also you're going through

1600
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 7: all of the stuff that we know to expect from

1601
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 7: like corporate America or a lot of these like very

1602
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 7: at times well intentioned but still kind of lacking self

1603
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 7: aware situations.

1604
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of just like Okay, well,

1605
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 3: how do I how do I put my own experiences first?

1606
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 7: How do I honor the work that I've been doing

1607
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 7: my experience is the way that I've tried to navigate

1608
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 7: this newsroom with just compassion and care, even when I

1609
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 7: didn't always know everything, even when I did have stuff

1610
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 7: to learn, right, you know, And then how do I

1611
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 7: also say there's a boundary here and y'all have crossed this.

1612
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: And that's not okay. It doesn't mean that I hate

1613
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 3: you forever.

1614
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that we're fistfighting, like a lot of

1615
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 7: people want to wanted to portray.

1616
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 3: That situation as like, oh, well, like you just don't like.

1617
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 7: These people, and I was like, well, it's not about

1618
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 7: whether or not I like them, right, you know.

1619
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: It's like, at the end of the day, this is

1620
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 3: a business.

1621
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 7: We were not always here to be paid to be friends.

1622
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 7: It's great if people get along, it's great if you

1623
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 7: make friends, and I had, but also at the same time,

1624
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 7: like we have to talk about the fact that this

1625
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 7: is and as many brands and food media, this is

1626
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 7: a brand that didn't always get it right and we

1627
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 7: have to take responsibility for that and figure out the

1628
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 7: way forward.

1629
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 1: And it's a job. I think one of the things

1630
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: that I know at being me being gen x, right,

1631
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: so gen X very much like your feelings don't matter

1632
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: that much. Get the job done, right. That's that was

1633
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: what we were tired at kids, right, And it's like

1634
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: being gen X, I'm very much like, I guess my

1635
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: feelings don't matter, but I'm learning from like the generations

1636
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: after me to be more like, oh wait, my feelings matter.

1637
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: But one of the things that I never felt betrayed

1638
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: by was a company that tried to be like we're family,

1639
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: We're like your family. This is more like your family,

1640
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: because I would always be like that's bullshit right before.

1641
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I'm like I don't.

1642
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: Believe any of that. But I think like there are

1643
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: people who, especially once you have startups, you have these

1644
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: companies that aren't there like corporate ish, you know what

1645
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, where it's like what what you want to

1646
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: the office? We're friends, we hang out, we talk, we

1647
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: can have market there's like that moment wheen you like

1648
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 1: you say you have to draw this boundary of like

1649
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: it's a workplace too though, so you know whereas like

1650
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: if you were my friend then you said this, I

1651
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: might be like, hey, you know, don't say this, or

1652
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 1: he's just drunk or whatever. Man we're at work, and

1653
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: this is actually affecting my ability to earn, is affecting

1654
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 1: my ability to practice my trade. And I know there

1655
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: were like discussions of like and it was like such

1656
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: a hard nut to crack as it was like appropriation

1657
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: in cooking, which is like a difficult topic to really

1658
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: wrap your head around.

1659
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 5: Particularly with somebody chafer about it.

1660
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 6: With fusion, Like a lot of people feel all types

1661
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 6: of ways about fusion, But I person think fusion is

1662
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 6: beautiful when you bring these two cultures together. Yes, I'm American,

1663
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 6: but I'm Asian. I'm American and I'm African or Native. Like,

1664
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 6: I think that it's a wonderful thing because then you

1665
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 6: end up creating new things or different things or unique things.

1666
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 6: But I but I think for a lot of people

1667
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 6: they feel like when it comes to just appropriation period,

1668
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 6: but they feel like, well, this history and recipees have

1669
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 6: been stolen from us, so don't take anything.

1670
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 5: It's like that's not how this works. I hope, you know.

1671
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I think but so it depends though, right,

1672
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: because like who's covering us because we're writing about the food,

1673
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: we're not just making it. So it's like what knowledge

1674
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: do you have to really assess this, you know what

1675
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that stuff matters. Who gets the story? Yeah,

1676
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: who is relegated to only this story? Like if we

1677
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 1: only if the only time you're gonna see jesse on

1678
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: on the site is when it's so fu Sunday or whatever. Fuck,

1679
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: then it's kind of like that's like a different kind

1680
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: of weird.

1681
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 3: It gets so tricky so fast.

1682
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 7: But like at the end of the day, if you

1683
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 7: are doing your research, if you are actually learning about

1684
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,919
Speaker 7: the communities that you're drawing from and citing your sources

1685
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 7: and saying like, you know what, this isn't the thing

1686
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 7: I invented, But I don't need to have invented it

1687
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 7: for it to be good. I need to have invented

1688
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 7: it for everyone to want to learn about it. Yes,

1689
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 7: that's a very different thing, you know, Like in a

1690
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 7: lot of ways, it's it's more about like are you

1691
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 7: being sincere and how you're how you're actually talking about

1692
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 7: and then relating to this food or are you just

1693
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 7: trying to parachute in make a profit or get some

1694
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 7: social capital, get some cloud and then you know, and

1695
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 7: more often than not, you know, sometimes we just have

1696
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 7: to check ourselves and say, hey, are we actually being

1697
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 7: real with this or is this just you know fact

1698
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 7: that people are just trying to get in on them.

1699
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there is like a money making aspect to

1700
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: all of this, you know obviously, but someone brought up

1701
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: in the chat this year on Atlanta, they had one

1702
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes was where they had this Nigebow

1703
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 1: thing where this white lady befriends Darius. Darius takes it

1704
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: to an authentic Nigerian restaurant and she's essentially taking notes

1705
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: like it's never it never registers. It's like a human

1706
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: experience for her, but just like a business venture. And

1707
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: there is that part of it, right, there is that

1708
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: colonization of culture because food is so strongly attached to

1709
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: culture that there is like a fear of people being

1710
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: so capitalistic, so business minded that they miss out on

1711
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: the story. I think that's why it's important what you

1712
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: do that you're telling worries because I think low key,

1713
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: the part that makes cooking and food really unique is

1714
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: the story behind it. It's not like the recipe is cool, right,

1715
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: anyone put a little no, no, no, do this, do that?

1716
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: It's the where does come from? You know? Why? Why

1717
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: is it here, What is the person that makes this?

1718
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: What are they thinking? You know that kind of stuff.

1719
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 6: Yes, and that has lock to do with why some

1720
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 6: of your best TV chefs bit celebrity of home cooks,

1721
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,839
Speaker 6: a lot of they whatever they do has a story

1722
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 6: behind it, like they're telling you.

1723
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 5: This reminded me of this.

1724
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 6: This reminded me of that because it's that that form

1725
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 6: of connection, like when I was talking about that chicken. Yeah,

1726
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 6: fried chicken, but the story behind it is, yeah, I

1727
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 6: undercooked it. It was not done. The grease was too high,

1728
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 6: so I fried it and pulled it out. I was like, oh,

1729
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 6: this looked just like my mama's. No, baby wouldn't just

1730
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 6: like my mama said, not at all all. The outside

1731
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 6: was all pretty and brown and honey. I thought I

1732
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 6: had this something I put out on that plane.

1733
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 5: It was glistening, it was shiny. I bust that chicken open.

1734
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, I think also, there's like

1735
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: a new kind of not not new, but I think, yes,

1736
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: it is kind of new. And since social media, I

1737
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:12,440
Speaker 1: believe where companies kind of have like a moral obligation,

1738
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: or at least people who eat at places are looking

1739
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: for more moral obligations like I was reading that McDonald's

1740
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: is leaving Russia. I was hearing that, which I'm sure

1741
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: is a lot of money that they're leaving on the table.

1742
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: They're just basically selling all of their stuff there because

1743
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,560
Speaker 1: there are people who work for McDonald's there that and

1744
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: they will not have a job. They've been closed for

1745
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: several months now and right, so it's been at a

1746
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: loss to be, like Tomorral to try to make like

1747
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: a moral statement. Is that like something that you've noticed

1748
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: within the industry that people are trying to do or

1749
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: is it like mostly just look profit over people don't

1750
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: worry about all that.

1751
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that there's a rise

1752
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 7: in and people being more aware of the fact that, like, hey,

1753
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 7: people care of about what are what our businesses are

1754
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 7: doing or what what we're involved in. Right, So, like,

1755
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 7: I definitely think it's still a mix of places where

1756
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 7: you know, some people are going to do there are

1757
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 7: genuinely thinking about how to make the brand more sustainable,

1758
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 7: more reflective of the values that the customers want from

1759
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 7: that company. But then also you have you have people

1760
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 7: who are doing it to be performative too, right, So

1761
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 7: sometimes it has to be that that question of just like, Okay, well,

1762
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 7: are you doing this because it's actually important? Are you

1763
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 7: because you actually value the people you're working with, or

1764
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 7: are you just doing this because you think it's going

1765
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 7: to give you a leg up over other people or

1766
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,440
Speaker 7: your competitors.

1767
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes with that it's just like.

1768
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 7: Well, no matter what, I always want, you know, companies

1769
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 7: and businesses to treat their workers like people and to

1770
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 7: treat them well and pay them living wages.

1771
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: That's a great point because I'm sorry, I was just

1772
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna say, because McDonald's could technically be like, listen, they

1773
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: shut the economy off in Russia, so maybe they're like

1774
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: losing money and this is a way of saving face

1775
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: of being like just give it to the Russians and

1776
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: let's get the hell out of here, you know. And

1777
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: it's a good pr win because it looks like they're going, hey,

1778
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: we're leaving Russia. But maybe it's just really a it's

1779
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: really just it is pr and it's really just more

1780
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: about saving money. I mean, every a restaurant can't be

1781
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: as unrepentantly evil as like Arby's, you know, where it's

1782
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: like we're a drug dealing, money laundering organization that gives

1783
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: ninety six percent of our money to the g o P.

1784
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: And we don't give a fuck what y'all think. We're

1785
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: pissing in your milkshakes. And if y'all, if y'all enjoy

1786
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: pissing your milkshakes, enjoy that like that that could be.

1787
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: But you know what, I digress. I don't want to go.

1788
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: I've said too much. I don't I know, they probably

1789
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: gonna come from me after that.

1790
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 5: Big Arby's Big Arby.

1791
01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we just get pulled off, Cameron, if you'll

1792
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: hear from us. The last thing y'all did want to

1793
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 1: ask that? Well, actually, Karen, if you have more questions too,

1794
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to rush you off. But

1795
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: the question I wanted to ask too is about the

1796
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: new podcast, the one recipe. How did the podcast come about?

1797
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Like what was the thought process behind it? And you know,

1798
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 1: like the execution.

1799
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know this is a moment. I again

1800
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 7: can't take all the credit or any credit part. Really,

1801
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 7: Sally Swift and Erica or Merril my producers. They were

1802
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 7: the ones who created the idea for the show, created

1803
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 7: the kind of structure of it, and then they reached

1804
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 7: out to me and we're just like, hey, we have

1805
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 7: this idea, you know, we're launching this thing, and we

1806
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 7: just want to see if you'd be interested in, you know,

1807
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 7: auditioning for it. And before having a podcast, it never

1808
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 7: occurred to me. I was just like, I'm sick of

1809
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 7: hearing my thoughts.

1810
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: On my head.

1811
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know why y'all will want to hear.

1812
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 7: Them, because I love y'all, I love me, But it's

1813
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 7: just a lot of some time I understood. But but yeah,

1814
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 7: but I think it just really grew out of wanting

1815
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 7: to make sure that there was stuff out there that

1816
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 7: reminded people it's okay to be a cooking progress. It's

1817
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 7: okay to be a person in progress. We're allso learning,

1818
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 7: we're also figuring themes out, you know, so we don't

1819
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 7: have to be perfect.

1820
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 3: We just have to show up as ourselves.

1821
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 7: And sometimes I just mean saying, hey, this is the

1822
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 7: recipe I love and I want you to love it too.

1823
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,759
Speaker 1: It's really refreshing. I love the podcast. It's they're short

1824
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: episodes and they're like really uh Like it's funny because

1825
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: like these lofty people that you would be like, okay,

1826
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: this person is a chef. They wrote three books, they

1827
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: got a TV show or whatever, and then you're like

1828
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: they're like with my I like pasta. What I do

1829
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: is I just take some garlic, sauce and this that

1830
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: You're like, I can make that, got five ingredients.

1831
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 5: I can slain that.

1832
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like wait, so you just take a whole So

1833
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: you just taking the salmon, putting some oils on, some pepper,

1834
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: and you can serve it hot, you can serve a cold.

1835
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: It could beat a lot of people.

1836
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 5: Like, yes, I could take it.

1837
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 6: Yes, I want to try to recipe what the lady

1838
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 6: was talking about some ground pork with a whole bunch

1839
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 6: of men. I was like, that sounds mishious, ma'am.

1840
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 1: Yes, So I mean, I don't know if y'all just

1841
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: did this, so y'all can shark all these recipes off

1842
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: these people. But whatever y'all did every night, Jesse's even

1843
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: for ten dollars at home, like this was made by

1844
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 1: the best chefs.

1845
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 5: In the world.

1846
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,759
Speaker 3: It's just me in a pool.

1847
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 6: Just yea, what is your favorite food where you don't

1848
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 6: like to share you this is mine.

1849
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 5: I don't like to share. I had it from me.

1850
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 5: If I got to like like this right here is

1851
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,520
Speaker 5: my jam.

1852
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,799
Speaker 7: Honestly, it's great question.

1853
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's too hard to think of just one. But

1854
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 3: I think it's like sweet potato pies. If it's a

1855
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 3: good if it's a good one, I will eat it cold.

1856
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 7: I will eat a hot wake up in the mellow

1857
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 7: night and standing in front of the fridge or out

1858
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 7: the counter and eat it with my bare hands. And

1859
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 7: that you know what about y'all?

1860
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: So this is not even a food that is This

1861
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 1: is like a food you buy, but uh, thin mints,

1862
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Girl Scout thin mins. I put them in the fridge

1863
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: and the servant size is apparently one sleeve because.

1864
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 3: Just there are two in the box.

1865
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so each box has two servings. And uh, I

1866
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: remember looking at you. I remember looking at the back

1867
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 1: and it was like, this has eight servants. I'm like,

1868
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: someone needs to do some math at the Girl Scouts

1869
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: because that's definitely not true.

1870
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 3: So we gotta give them grades, you know.

1871
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: Okay, if I can stop at a sleeve, that's a

1872
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 1: good day. If I stopped, like at one sleeve, I'm like, yo,

1873
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 1: I did it today. I was. I was on my diet,

1874
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1875
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm three sleeves in.

1876
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: Uh. Okay, listen, Okay, there's the reason I buy boxes

1877
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: at a time. Them them girls know me, and them

1878
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 1: girls gotta understand it. Okay, Karen, did you have one?

1879
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 5: Oh my yeah, my favorite is Eminem's. I love me.

1880
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 5: We went to the Eminem's store in Times Square.

1881
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 6: And it just made my day. I love me Eminems.

1882
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 6: I take my Eminem's, I put them in the freezer.

1883
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 6: I like peanut Eminem's. They're my favorite. I just don't

1884
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 6: care like I used. I loved them so much. When

1885
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 6: I was a kid, I would save up my money

1886
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 6: and I would buy a big old jumbo sized bags,

1887
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 6: you know the ones where you had to pay four

1888
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 6: five dollars for the bag.

1889
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 5: And I wouldn't share with nobody. I keep it a secret.

1890
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 5: I had it.

1891
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 6: No, you're not eating my kid, because if I give

1892
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 6: it to you, that mean I ain't got none.

1893
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 7: Growing up, we had the the big old bags of

1894
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 7: the peanut Eminem's, yes, and.

1895
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 3: I would find them just stashing random places.

1896
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 7: Oh my mom would be sick of sharing. Like there

1897
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 7: was one day I was like, okay, I'm gonna comment

1898
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 7: to my parents. Just have a good old time. I'm

1899
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 7: gonna watch their TV. I'm gonna I'm gonna live life.

1900
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 7: There was a bag of Eminem's smack tap in the

1901
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 7: center of that bad and I was just like.

1902
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Right right now, that's a betrayal. That's a betrayal for

1903
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 1: the whole family.

1904
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why.

1905
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 1: That's my kids field.

1906
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 5: That's that kid.

1907
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 6: If you as an adult, I got to share everything.

1908
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 6: Every time I turn around.

1909
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 5: Can I ask up? Can I hassle? Can I hassle?

1910
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 5: You be like, I can't have nothing to myself. That's

1911
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 5: my parents hot stool.

1912
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 7: Listen, I get now why people will literally just sit

1913
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 7: in the cars in the driveway.

1914
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 5: Yes before they go in the house decompressed.

1915
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 1: That is that is like the greediest thing I've ever done,

1916
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: is like order something and be like, I'm just gonna

1917
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: have to eat this for I come in the house.

1918
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Cuz if I come in the house and they know

1919
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: I got it, then it's no longer going to be

1920
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: just to your mine. So it's like I'm just sitting

1921
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: in the driveway, like as soon as I finish this

1922
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: bow Jangles, I'll go ahead and go in and face

1923
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: the family.

1924
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 7: Literally yesterday. So we have a we have a chain

1925
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 7: called Friendchies in Houston. Great spot for fried chicken.

1926
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 3: I grab some. I was, you know, visiting some family.

1927
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 7: I sat in the driveway and I was just like,

1928
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 7: I just I can't go in yet until I finish.

1929
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, not doing anything until I'm done.

1930
01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 7: I love y'all so much immediately as so have you even?

1931
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 7: What do you want to eat? What do you want

1932
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 7: for dinner? I'm just like, right, I don't know. I

1933
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 7: don't know if I got a second, but I.

1934
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 6: Got a lot of y'all like, yeah, I got to

1935
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 6: order and pick around, but like you know what I

1936
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,679
Speaker 6: read it was now I packed this up for lunch tomorrow.

1937
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely, I've definitely. Yeah.

1938
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 6: What is your favorite drink alcoholic, non alcoholic of both?

1939
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 7: Oh, that's a good one too. I think I love

1940
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 7: a darken stormy. I love a darkened stormy.

1941
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 3: I love uh So.

1942
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 7: It's like ginger beer rum. It's just very very refreshing,

1943
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 7: very bright. It's just a good old time. It's one

1944
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 7: of those things where you can taste the alcohol, you

1945
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Speaker 7: can appreciate it, but also if you're not careful, you'll

1946
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Speaker 7: look up on a beautiful summer evening and you'll just

1947
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Speaker 7: be like, wow, was I always cross on?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that was the first time I got first

1949
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Speaker 1: time I got introduced to Long Island iced tea's, I

1950
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Speaker 1: felt like.

1951
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Speaker 6: That, you know what, I felt betrayed? A long al

1952
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 6: of iced tea has no ice tea in it. And

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Speaker 6: Roger told me that, and I looked at him like

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Speaker 6: Sana Claus with real I was like, what you mean

1955
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Speaker 6: in Long Island iced tea?

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Speaker 5: He was like, it caught some coke.

1957
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,799
Speaker 6: I was like, he was like, it got about eighteen

1958
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Speaker 6: alcohols in the girl. I'd been like, well, they said

1959
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 6: it's a Long Island nice tea, Why ain't no tea in?

1960
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Speaker 5: It's everything but tea.

1961
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Speaker 3: Listen. The second I saw the actual like ingredient breakdown.

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Speaker 1: It's the longest. Yeah.

1963
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Speaker 3: I was just like, this is this is a whole bar. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just put the whole thing in.

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Speaker 1: It's a big line. But man, it'll get you drunk,

1966
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Speaker 1: okay quickly, and like with all that sweetness you don't

1967
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Speaker 1: even know. Listen, it does the job.

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Speaker 7: Okay, sweetness is the trouble.

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Speaker 1: That's why that's why the initials are L I T,

1970
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Speaker 1: because you're gonna be lit. You keep talking with them.

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Speaker 1: Long Island iced tea.

1972
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Speaker 6: That that, that, and the good old mimosa will have

1973
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Speaker 6: will have you gone because a lot of people underestimate

1974
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Speaker 6: how strong mimosa is and uh yeah, you get out

1975
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Speaker 6: of fruits and out that stuff and yeah, you won't

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Speaker 6: last long.

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Speaker 3: There used to be a place. Oh sorry, sorry, no, no, no,

1978
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Speaker 3: you gotta gotta there.

1979
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Speaker 7: Used to be a place in Brooklyn called the Woodland

1980
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Speaker 7: and it was It was a very black place.

1981
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Speaker 3: It was focused on brunch, you know. That was a

1982
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Speaker 3: big appeal.

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Speaker 7: They would have a DJ there playing the music great time,

1984
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Speaker 7: but people would be.

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Speaker 3: Off. People would just be out of their minds because

1986
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Speaker 3: they would do like the unlimited mimosas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of places stop doing it because for

1988
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Speaker 5: that reason.

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Speaker 1: They was like.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they'd have two, three, eighteen and it would be like, no,

1991
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Speaker 7: we gotta, we gotta stop.

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Speaker 3: So they ended up closing down because they were just

1993
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Speaker 3: like it's been fun, but yeah.

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Speaker 5: Not a dude, drink what you can in two hours

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Speaker 5: after no more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the funniest thing. Like being a black

1997
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Speaker 1: person is like uh like turkey leg hut of it.

1998
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Speaker 1: They had to pass like these rules and it was

1999
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Speaker 1: one of them was like no swimsuits, and people were like, listen,

2000
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Speaker 1: I don't like respectability ball black, Like I know something.

2001
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Speaker 1: I'm like guys, as a black person, let me just

2002
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Speaker 1: step in real quick. It's okay, it's time, like something happened.

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Speaker 5: They don't pass like we can't be at brunch.

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Speaker 1: And right next to my potatoes. You can't be. I'm sorry,

2005
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Speaker 1: it's no, I love you. That's time for turk, that's

2006
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Speaker 1: time for eating some some some crawfish. And it's just

2007
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Speaker 1: not always the same time the same.

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Speaker 3: It's just no, no, no, the venue.

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Speaker 1: Just know your audience. You know what I'm saying, No offense.

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Speaker 7: I hate dress codes. But it's also just like if

2011
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Speaker 7: the restaurant has an established vibe.

2012
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Speaker 1: Look, I respect both. I respect both, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: But if we're not on the boat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's like it's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well this has been so fun. Yes, Jesse, thank you

2018
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Speaker 1: for coming on. Feel free to come back anytime.

2019
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

2020
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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna write a cookbook so that I can

2021
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Speaker 1: go on there and promote hot pockets. Okay, well I'm

2022
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Speaker 1: gonna I just.

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Speaker 6: About yes, I'm right man, I can't wait to write

2024
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Speaker 6: my cookbook called lip Smacking Good.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna be named my cookbook and my podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

2027
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Speaker 1: Check out The One Recipe American public media. It's on

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Speaker 1: everywhere you get, everywhere you get podcasts. Like I said,

2029
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Speaker 1: episodes are so, they're short, they're fun, a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: They're educational. You'll learn how to cook. Uh, you'll learn

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Speaker 1: what to cook. You learn how to look like you

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Speaker 1: took a lot of effort, but really you just threw

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Speaker 1: some salmon in the oven at three hundred degrees. It's like,

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Speaker 1: come on, shortcuts, y'all. Check that out and then we'll

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Speaker 1: be back Saturday with our feedback show. Until then, I

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Speaker 1: love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah,