1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: We have reached week three. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 2: J P. 3 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 3: Shadwick with you with our weekly. 4 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: Interviews on Countdown to Kickoff and this week the Jaguars 5 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: hosts the division rival of Houston Texans, and we begin 6 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: this week with our weekly conversation with pride of the 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. Week three is here, divisional 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: play is here as well. The Houston Texans are in town. 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: The energy just amps up on a week like this, Fred, Yeah. 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Good week for football man, especially after a tough loss 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: to a very persistent Bengals team. You got to give 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: them credit where is due. They played their tails off 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: to get that w Man, in spite of everything that 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: happened to them, Jacksonville have to find a way to 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: start winning that way. Yes, it was an ugly loss, 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: a tough loss for everybody in the building, but you know, 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: we got a lot of football left, fifteen more regular 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: season opportunities. But it starts with the Texans, a team 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: who has been a thorn in our side in the 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: history of this matchup. So got to find a way 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: to win. They're owing to struggling looking for a win. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: We're wanting one, trying to come up with a tough 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: win the better team's gonna win today. 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Fred, Let's get into Brian Thomas Junior's week last week 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: and the possible bounce back ability twelve targets four catches 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: last week. We saw how it looked on TV. We 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: heard from him in the locker room this week that no, 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: I'm not in the slump. It's just let's go play. 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: As an athlete, how do you work yourself out of 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: a situation like this? And where do you think Brian 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: is right now? 32 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, based on the comments, you know he's 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: just said he made well, I'm not in a slump. 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: I love the optimism. It starts there. You have to 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: continue to ring in on your confidence. You got to 36 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: make sure you're not shooking up, shaking up shook. You 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: got to make sure you're not shook or shaking. Let's 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: let's use one of those tenses, right. 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: Shaking, not stird, right sacon, not third exactly, but no 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: either case. You know, I think he just has to 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: continue to show confidence. 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to get down on himself because the 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: team will get down on him. I remember a situation 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: for myself. I would drop a ball in practice. The 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: team thought I was down on myself from a confidence standpoint. No, 46 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: I was hard on myself on everything. I got to 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: catch those balls. Brian knows he has to catch those balls. 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: He has to make those those plays. We had him 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: on the pivot and he said, look, I want to 50 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: step up this year and be a leader, you know, 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: not just being a leader by example, but he wants 52 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: to learn how to be a vocal leader as well. 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: And the way you learn how to get people to 54 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: buy in is through trust. Trusting trust comes from crazy 55 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: as it is making plays, that's one thing. And also 56 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: standing on business. You got to be a man of 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: your word. So it's a few things he has to 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: grasp a hold of, but it starts with being optimistic, 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: staying confident, asking them to get me the ball, keep 60 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: coming to me, keep coming to me. I know this 61 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: is just two games in. It's nothing, and I'm going 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: to step up and show you all what I'm made of. 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's the cloth that he's cut from. 64 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: He's one of those fantastic LSU receivers. As much as 65 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: it took out to get me to say that, I mean, 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: they keep pushing him out and he's one of the 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: top of those guys. That have come out, So I 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: believe in him. I think he'll bounce back. 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us, there's some good things going on 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: for the Shags team. They lead the league in rushing 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: yards through two weeks, and they lead the league in takeaways. 72 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: They have six a season after they had. 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: Nine all years. 74 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: So if they can do that every week, they're gonna 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: win a whole lot more than they lose this year. 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: The stain they have to sustain, that's the standard. They 77 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: want to be consistent. And the way that pass rush 78 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: looked early on and then how it tapered down a 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: little bit in the second half. I don't necessarily equate 80 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: that to consistency, but in terms of the production from 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: a statistical standpoint, they're right there. 82 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: They're right there where you want to be. It's all 83 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: the good stuff. 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: Again, if you don't find a way to close out 85 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: these games, you know, because sometimes you're gonna have one 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards passing and you're gonna find a 87 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: way to win the game. Dak Prescott last week, for example, 88 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: had one hundred and seventy eight. 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: He found a way to win the ball game. 90 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: Late in the ballgame, Jacksonville, you know, with all these statistics, 91 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 2: and that's the great formula. 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: Do not get me wrong. 93 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: We love to be the leading rushing team and the 94 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: leading team and turnover ratio. That's the formula for success 95 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: throughout the course of an entire season. Two games in, 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, just chalk it up optimistic to see it. 97 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 2: But unless you got a W in that win column, 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: that stuff never matters, JP and you know it. So 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: they got to continue to build on that and find 100 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: a way to close out games. 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: Fred, I'm curious your thoughts on the running backs. We 102 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: talked about the running game. Clearly, obviously it's going pretty 103 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: well with ETN and base show tooting and the look 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: winn Allen in there and some third down situations as well. 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: But both of these guys he has a running the 106 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: ball effectively, but they were utilized in the passing game 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: last week, that wide pass. The screen game has been 108 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: pretty good for this team so far. As a running back, 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: having that balance that opens up a lot. 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, First, give credit to the colleges that they attended. 111 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: You know, you got the q's and you got V Tech. 112 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: And the good thing about it is they're well coached. 113 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: You know, Chad, he's. 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 4: In the room. 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: Chad Morton, he's in the room and he's been phenomenal 116 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: in his career. He was a great player, very smart guy, 117 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: and you can tell that he trickles down to the 118 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: backs because you have a set of rookies who's picked 119 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: up the speed of the NFL game that I don't 120 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: see him making busts. You know, they're heavy and pass protection, 121 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback to trust that they have for the 122 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: quint there as a bigger back on third down. I mean, 123 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: he's been pretty solid in the past game. The quint 124 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 2: as you mentioned JP, running screens, very explosive, making the 125 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: right cuts, strong downhill. 126 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: You know he had. 127 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: He's a guy with tremendous upside and it makes that move, 128 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: you know, over a week ago with Tank Bigsby, it 129 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 2: makes that trade move look like an amazing smart decision. 130 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: So I say that to say we hope that Travis 131 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: etn continues to, you know, ascend right on the consistent basis. 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: The offensive line. They buckled down. They had a really 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: solid performance in the run game. Not so great in 134 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: the past game as they allow some pressure throughout critical 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: points in the game to get to Trevor Lawrence walk 136 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: a little challenge. You gotta step it up your one 137 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: on one matchups. You have to win. Win those and 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: understand the pressure situations when they're gonna bumple down the 139 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: pass rushue they're offensive coaches, I'm sure they've gone back 140 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: and said, hey, we got to send a little help 141 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: that way to slow down the Bengals, all sir, whomever's team, 142 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: all star. 143 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: I say all that to say, man, I know. 144 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: Along win it situationally, the Jaguars will get better. I 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: know they won't get called for those those illegal shifts 146 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: and all of that. They'll be prepared and give themselves 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: an opportunity to win this week, all. 148 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Right, Fred, final thought quickly here about c J Stroud 149 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: and his mindset. The offensive line has had some issues 150 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: in Houston. Of course, he's got a couple of weapons 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: on the offense. But where is CJ Stroud and what 152 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: stands out of the most about his approach to the game. 153 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: For you, CJ is probably knocking on Nick Sario's door, like, 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: hey man, it's been a few years since I've been 155 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: here and two of them we haven't had any linemen 156 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: to protect me, and then you trade away one of them. 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: So he's probably doing that. But CJ. Man just an 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: amazing kid, amazing young man. I love him to death. 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: Man. 160 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Every time we cross paths, he's very welcoming and you 161 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: know he he opens everything up for me. Just a 162 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: respectful young man, very humble in his approach. Everything he 163 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: does he does with his community in mind, with his 164 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: father in mind, and making sure that he just does 165 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: everything right. He's an amazing person. Then it carries over 166 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: to the field as well, and you can see his 167 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: play and it's not what we saw his rookie year. 168 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: But he won't back down, you know, and I know 169 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: he understands this matchup. He's missing one of his weapons 170 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 2: in Tank Dell and they traded away Michi as well. 171 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: But CJ's gonna keep fighting, and this Texans team is 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: gonna keep fighting. Their head coach is a guy I 173 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: played against the mink O'Ryan, a guy who's gonna keep fighting. 174 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: We had some drama last year with the hit on 175 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: Trevor Laurn, so you can understand. This is their first 176 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: time back in Jacksonville since that happened, So you better 177 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: believe it's gonna be some tension and some fire in 178 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: the air. So the team that's the most physical, most prepared, 179 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: most discipline for situations is gonna win this. 180 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: B Gred great stuff. We'll talk to you in the 181 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: post game coming up. 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: Man, appreciate it, you know. Man, I'll be ready. 183 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: And no rain delays this week, baby, because I gotta 184 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: be in the studio with the guys. 185 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: Man, come on, God get us right. 186 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton this week got into the defensive line room 187 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: with defensive linemen Duwan Smoot. 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: Like I never left. 189 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: You know. 190 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 6: The guys welcome me back, open arms, and I'm just 191 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 6: so happy to be back. 192 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 7: Give me a sense of what the four of you 193 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 7: in that past rushing end unit are doing. Because you're 194 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 7: having great success early on and you know you're back 195 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 7: and you've got a Manuel here this year. Tell me 196 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 7: a little bit about the chemistry in that room. 197 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 6: Chemistry it was like like day one, like we were 198 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: all locked in from day one, and you just see 199 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 6: it out there on Sundays, like we're communicating. 200 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: It's easy. 201 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 6: It's just to look like, Okay, you're going here. I 202 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 6: know where you're going. I'm able to work off of 203 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: you and me Josh trade and rushing together. 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: For so long, you know. Just getting back here with 205 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: Eric as well too. 206 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 6: It's easy to work off with somebody who's penetrating every 207 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 6: single time he's in the backfield, so he's of the 208 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 6: playoff somebody who's that good. 209 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 7: Important is that they have four guys you can chase 210 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks so that the quarterback is tired and you 211 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 7: guys maybe get arrest. 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: Right. 213 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: It's very important. 214 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 6: I mean for us, our first philosophy is to stop 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 6: the run, and that puts them in that situation where 216 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 6: they have to pass. 217 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: So I mean that's where we eat. 218 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 6: You know, it's very important for all four of us 219 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 6: to be at one in the court, for us all 220 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 6: to be able to you know, be one on one 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 6: blocks and be able to get to the quarterback. 222 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 7: You were a rookie on the twenty seventeen team that 223 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 7: was as good at defense as we've ever seen in Jacksonville. 224 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 7: This one is showing some potential. Number four against the 225 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 7: run eighty yards. Tell me personalities aside, you see some 226 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 7: similarities in the approach. 227 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 6: Never see some similarities in their approach, Like we're very technical, 228 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 6: especially like especially today and coming off that tough loss, 229 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 6: it's easy to just like look at it negatively and like, 230 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 6: oh yeah, we lost but it was so much great 231 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 6: things that we did and so such a little bit 232 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 6: of small things that were bad. So I mean, we 233 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 6: know and we understand what we had to do coming 234 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 6: into this week, and we were intentional about fixing everything. 235 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 6: So definitely a lot of similarities from twenty seventeen. You know, 236 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 6: I feel like we can be a very good defense 237 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: this year. 238 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 7: Are there any similar personalities or was that group just 239 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 7: its own? 240 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 6: Hey, there's some similar personalities. I mean, you know, you 241 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 6: know on twenty seventeen how we were drawing at everybody. 242 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 6: Everybody get it didn't matter, And we're definitely not backing 243 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 6: down from any challenges this year. That's kind of the 244 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 6: tempo coming. 245 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 7: With Houston has long been this team's nemesis. I mean 246 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 7: all the way back to two thousand and two, and 247 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 7: you obviously were a part of some of those games 248 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 7: first shot out of the gate. This year, how important 249 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 7: is it to push back against the team that thinks 250 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 7: they're the bully. 251 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: I mean it's huge. 252 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 6: I mean, like you said, they come in here and 253 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 6: they think they're a bully, They're gonna try to smake 254 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 6: you in the mouth, all that stuff. But think about it, 255 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 6: like I said, we don't back down from no challenges 256 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 6: from anybody. We definitely pride ourselves on our physicality here, 257 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 6: you know, And that's the thing that Camp when he 258 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 6: first came in, he was like, We're gonna be the 259 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 6: most physical team in the NFL. 260 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: So and we were ready for the challenge. 261 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 6: We know what they're coming with, and I'm pretty sure 262 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 6: looking at the family and know we're coming with too. 263 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: You talked off the top about being home, about being 264 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 7: back here. How important is Jacksonville to do once? It's 265 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 7: more than just the place that you play football, right. 266 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's definitely home. 267 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 6: Just the fact that we were able to do everything 268 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 6: in the community in the past what seven years, and 269 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 6: really being able touch community and getting to know a 270 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 6: lot of people. It's home. I mean, my kids are 271 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: here to stay. I'm here to stay. So I mean, 272 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 6: I'm hoping that I can retire for sure. 273 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 7: And how much better would it be with a ring, right, 274 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 7: I mean, to turn this thing into it into a winner, 275 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 7: which I know you've been a part of at various 276 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 7: times but hasn't been consistent. How much would it mean 277 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 7: for you personally to see this thing become a consistent winner? 278 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 6: I mean I mean everything to me personally personally, but 279 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 6: I mean I mean everything to the city of Jacksonville. 280 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 6: To be the first team, you know, to bring it 281 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: home and to have that parade for the first time. 282 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: It's going to be everything at Jacksonville. So we're definitely 283 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 6: gonna try to bring that home this year for sure. 284 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Spirodidas has the call of the game on CBS Sports 285 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: this week. It's another new era of Jaguars football. You know, 286 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the NFL season is back. When Spiro's on our ear? 287 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: What's up man? Hey doing buddy? Always good to hear 288 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: your voice. 289 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: Hey, good to be with you all. 290 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: So and here we go, another new era of Jaguars football. 291 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: We've heard this before. What's outside view of what they've 292 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: done in the front office. 293 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 5: JP, it's it's a rite of passage, new season, new 294 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 5: regime in Jacksonville, and away we go. But you know, look, 295 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 5: I mean it's as disappointing as I think the finish 296 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: was this last weekend for Jags fans. I think if 297 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: you just step back and just see where this team 298 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 5: is and some of the early signs, I think you 299 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 5: have to be encouraged, really intrigued with with what they 300 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 5: did in the off season. I think when you have 301 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 5: a regime GM head coach, both under forty, considering their backgrounds, 302 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 5: considering the recent success, considering the organizations that both of 303 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 5: those guys have come from, fascinating to see them put 304 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 5: the roster together. With what Gladstone did in the off 305 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: season and the way they've performed, I think, very encouraging 306 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 5: signs early on. I think there's a run game something 307 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: that they've lacked clearly, and the defense flying around playing 308 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 5: as well as they are the first couple of weeks, 309 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: So positive signs. I think two weeks end of the year. 310 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Well, the big question that a lot of people will 311 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: have for Liam Cohen is can you fix the quarterback? 312 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, they've had two different coaches before that tried 313 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: to fix the quarterback and had really not a lot 314 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: of success there. What about Liam Cohen the way he's 315 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: worked in Tampa and LA and the other places, makes 316 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: you is there confidence there that this is the right 317 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: connection with Trevor Lawrence? 318 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, look what Liam has done 319 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: the last couple of years speaks for itself. Not a 320 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: huge sample size there, clearly a guy who hasn't called 321 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 5: plays for very many years, but a recent track record 322 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: is something to build on. Really like his temperament. I 323 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 5: know a lot was made about the exchange in game 324 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 5: towards the end last week in Cincinnati, but the guy's 325 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 5: got fire. Loved that part of what he bring to 326 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: the table. The other thing I think he understands and 327 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 5: anyone who studied Trevor Lawrence the last couple of years 328 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: knows that, you know, this offense needs some balance. You know, 329 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: they had to retool the offensive line that's always been 330 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 5: an issue with them. And can they give Trevor run 331 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: support consistently to keep defenses honest? I think that, to 332 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: me is my biggest takeaway through the first two weeks. 333 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: Trevor ETM last year, you know, for whatever reason, took 334 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 5: a step back the offensive line issues. You know, some 335 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: of the injuries they had up front. Obviously Trevor in 336 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 5: out of the lineup. They just can never commit to 337 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: that part of their offense, and I think that always 338 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: puts stress on a quarterback, especially a guy like Trevor Lawrence. 339 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: So I think the fact that they've committed to that 340 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: part of their their offensive attack speaks to who Liam 341 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: Cohen is. I think it's a coach recognizing his personnel 342 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 5: and trying to tailor a system to put his quarterback 343 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: in the best possible position to succeed. And if you're 344 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: a Jacksonville fan, I think that the biggest hope is 345 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: that that part of their offensive arsenal can continue to 346 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: grow and they can stay committed to that, because if 347 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: they can give Trevor I think, a consistent run threat 348 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 5: each and every time they step on the field, I 349 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: think this is a very capable offense. 350 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: Spirodiitas, CBS Sports with us. 351 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: The Jaguars defense the last couple of years has been awful, 352 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: thirty first in the league overall last year, but so 353 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: far they've they've put together some things this year. Six 354 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: takeaways leads the NFL through two weeks. They only had 355 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: nine all of last season, so that's a good step 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: in the right direction. They had some plays in big 357 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: moments last week where they couldn't get off the field 358 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: and fourth down on the last drive and then the 359 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: pass interference. But this is a whole new defensive scheme 360 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: with a whole almost new back end of the defense, 361 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: some new faces back there, and if they just improve 362 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: like halfway, if they're middle of the pack, then that 363 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: has to be a good step for this defense. 364 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: This year, yeah, had more youth, you know, with Anthony 365 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: Campanil coming in. This has to be one of the 366 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: youngest staffs, you know, when you consider front office and 367 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 5: coaching staff, and so that part has been really kind 368 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 5: of interesting to. 369 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: Watch from afar. 370 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: But the takeaway issue has been something it seems like 371 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 5: we've talked about for the last couple of years. It's 372 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 5: just never been a defense that can take the football 373 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 5: away and make big plays. Because you know JP as 374 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 5: you know as well as anyone covering this league. It's 375 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: one thing to build a defense that can play well 376 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 5: and do some things, but if you can't make the 377 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 5: big home run play, to put the football back in 378 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 5: the hands of your offense and keep parts of games, 379 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 5: you're just not gonna have much of a chance to 380 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 5: truly compete in this league. So I think the fact 381 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 5: that they're doing that early in the season is a 382 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 5: fantastic early sign for this defense. The other encouraging part 383 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: I think for the Jacksonville defense is some of the 384 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: younger players that they drafted that maybe took a little 385 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 5: bit of time initially, Guys like Trayvon Walker now really 386 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 5: starting to play well. I think that's always a sign 387 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: guys when you can draft well and when those those 388 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 5: players start to come into their own some of the 389 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 5: moves that they made in the offseason. Loved what they 390 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 5: did on the back end with guys like Eric Murray 391 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 5: and Jordan Lewis coming into free agency, So I think 392 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 5: there's been just and again we're very early in the season. 393 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 5: Who knows what this thing looks like four or five 394 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 5: weeks from now, but I think based on the moves 395 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 5: that they made in the offseason, obviously the coaching changes, 396 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: new system, so far, it's looked like it's something that's 397 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 5: trending in the right direction. You know, we've been here 398 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: before with good starts with this team and it's petered out. 399 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 5: But if I'm a Jacksonville fan, I feel good about 400 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: where this team sits right now. 401 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: It was a season where the Jaguars won the first 402 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: game and lost the last fifteen, So you know how 403 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I go spirods with this CBS Sports that's not gonna 404 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: happen this year. By the way, Hey, this is a 405 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: huge game this week, early swing game in the AFC South. 406 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: A lot of season to go, but it's the Jaguars 407 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: only divisional game in the first nine weeks of the season, 408 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: and against the team that won the division last year 409 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: and supposedly is a favorite to do it again coming 410 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: in of the season. They're up against the wall. The 411 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: Texans are zero and two. We all know about the 412 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: physicality that this Texans defense has. I mean, they knocked 413 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence out of last year's game here in Jacksonville 414 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: and he didn't play the rest of the season. I 415 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: don't think there's any retribution coming. But this also feels 416 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: like spirou a Jaguars team now that won't back away 417 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: from something like that echo of the whistle. They want 418 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: to show their physicality. I think this could be like 419 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: just a real slugfest. 420 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 4: I think on Sunday. 421 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's you know, when you have a 422 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: team that is as desperate as the Texans are early 423 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: in a season, a team that's expected to contend, a 424 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: team that has expectations going into the season, as you 425 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: just mentioned, I think that's a dangerous thing. And as 426 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 5: I'm sure you recall, two years ago twenty twenty three, 427 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: Demico Ryans first year is Houston's head coach. They were 428 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 5: in the exact same position. Come to Jacksonville Week three, 429 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 5: zero to two. That obviously was a different Houston team 430 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: with very low expectations. Houston comes, they win the game 431 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: by twenty I think it was thirty seven to seventeen, 432 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 5: and then they catapult themselves the rest of their season, 433 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: go on to win the AFC South. But I think 434 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 5: you make a good point. I think this Jacksonville team 435 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 5: is much better equipped to be in this position that 436 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 5: they're in to come in and face a team that's 437 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 5: going to be as desperate as Houston is on Sunday 438 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 5: in Jacksonville. This will be an early I think barometer 439 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: for both of these teams. Is this Jacksonville team truly 440 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: ready to compete? How do they handle this kind of 441 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 5: a desperate team early season and their building? And also 442 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 5: for Houston, you know, is this truly going to be 443 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 5: a team that can achieve what the expectations are for 444 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 5: them because they're in a different position. I think that 445 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: they've been a great story with Demco the last couple 446 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 5: of years. Obviously, twenty twenty three their first year, get 447 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 5: to the playoffs, win a playoff game, advance did the 448 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 5: same last year before it kind of ended for them, 449 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 5: but they're now dealing with expectations. I think they're at 450 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 5: that juncture of a franchise, you know, that natural ascending 451 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 5: that a team tries to do in their division and conference. 452 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 5: So this is this is going to be a fun 453 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 5: game for both teams to see where they're at early 454 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 5: in the season. 455 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Spiral great stuff as always always a pleasure. I'm sure 456 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: we'll do it again soon here this season. Thanks J 457 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: Peek and finally Brian Sexton again this time with Jags 458 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: defensive line coach Matt Edwards. It's a group trying to 459 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: get after CJ. 460 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: Stroud. Yeah. 461 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 8: I would say the guys approach it with the right mindset. 462 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 8: They've really adopted our play style, and I think the 463 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 8: understanding on all three levels of the defense of what 464 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 8: we're trying to accomplish resonates with them, and they're seeing 465 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 8: the outcomes that we're trying to create. 466 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 7: How important is that to see outcomes like you're getting 467 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 7: this early in the process. 468 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 8: I think when you get the outcomes that you're looking for, 469 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 8: it just helps you reinforce our process and how important 470 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 8: individual teamwork, practice, all those things that lead up to 471 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 8: the execution on game day. 472 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 7: Let's talk about communication, because that's something that Liam has 473 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: talked about since the first day he arrived here, and 474 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 7: you just mentioned all three levels. How do you develop 475 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 7: the kind of communication that's required to be a great 476 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 7: run stuffing unit. 477 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 8: I think the first thing when it comes to communication 478 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 8: is I think the guys need to be around each other. 479 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 8: They come in, they meet on their own, they get 480 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 8: in groups, they talk about what they're going to see, 481 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 8: they solve problems, they practice communicating in the classroom setting, 482 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 8: then they bring it out to the grass and I 483 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 8: think that when you're able to do that, the communication 484 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 8: gets cleaner. You kind of have some anticipation of what 485 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 8: you should hear and everybody's on the same page and 486 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 8: allows you to play as a unit. 487 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 7: Let's work for the inside out with your unit. Tell 488 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 7: me what you like about the interior of your defense. 489 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 7: Eric Armstead, Devon Hamilton, Colin Saunders, Mason Smith. I mean 490 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 7: you've got an interesting mix of personalities and size, and 491 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 7: what about that group stands out? 492 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, the most important thing to me is like, this 493 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 8: is a real selfless group, right. They all want to 494 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 8: be out there, but they all support each other. Whoever 495 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 8: is out there, they all have a different skill set, 496 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 8: but they all try to play to our play style. 497 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 8: The most exciting thing is like they come out every 498 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 8: day and they work. 499 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 7: They also appear to have really gravitated towards one another. 500 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: They like one another, and I think Saunders was an 501 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 7: interesting mix because his personality is so big. 502 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 503 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 8: I think the closeness from the group is intentional on 504 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 8: their part. You know, they go to the defensive line, dinners, 505 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 8: they're around each other. 506 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: It's not just football. 507 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 8: And what you see is like these guys support each 508 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 8: other off the field as much as they do on 509 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 8: the field. 510 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: In life. 511 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 8: They know what's going on in each other's lives and 512 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 8: really it's the time that they've invested in one another 513 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 8: that makes it easier for them to be invested on 514 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 8: the field. 515 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 7: Tell me what you've seen from Trayvon Walker through the 516 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 7: first two weeks. He was an absolute wrecking ball last 517 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 7: week in Cincinnati, just play after play after play. Did 518 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 7: you see that in him when you watched his tape 519 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 7: from the first two years. How has he progressed? 520 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 521 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 8: I think Trayvon is first off, he's a tremendous person 522 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 8: and his work ethay and what he brings from an 523 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 8: intangible aspect of doing what we ask is exactly what 524 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 8: you want as a coach. He's obviously incredibly skilled. But 525 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 8: what I love most about Trey he doesn't look at 526 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 8: himself as I'm just a rusher, I'm just a run defender. 527 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 8: He is a true three down player with the ability 528 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 8: to impact the game, and I think we're just scratching 529 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 8: the surface for the standard that he has for himself. 530 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 7: I enjoy the competitiveness that he has with Josh heinz 531 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 7: Allen on the other side, and how much they push 532 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 7: one another. 533 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: Do you see that? 534 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 7: Have you seen that? Did you see that in Buffalo? 535 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 7: Or is this a rare quality between two guys? 536 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: I think you know. 537 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 8: I've been around a lot of different groups, and the 538 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 8: groups that have performed at a high level have certain 539 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 8: things in common. Won the connectivity that we already mentioned, 540 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 8: but the ability to compete. Like these guys love to compete, right, 541 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 8: They don't want to lose in anything. And when you're 542 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 8: competitive and you're working hard and you're trying to use 543 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 8: the right techniques, that's what produces the results that individually 544 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 8: they're looking for. As we all accomplish it as a defense. 545 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 7: Since we talked about the group as a whole inside 546 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 7: what does it mean to have a manual and to 547 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 7: bring Smoot back here and to have two veteran guys 548 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 7: who can keep chasing the quarterback when the other guys 549 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 7: need a blow. 550 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 8: You know, the way the NFL is right now, you 551 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 8: have to have a wall of rushers to throw at people. 552 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 8: You know, send the guys out there telling go so 553 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 8: you can't go no more, We'll get somebody. 554 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 3: Else in there. 555 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 8: And they're confident when that next guy goes out there 556 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 8: that there's not going to be a drop off, that 557 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 8: those guys are going to go out there and do 558 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 8: their job. And as far as adding Smoot and og 559 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 8: By the veteran presence, they assimilated to the room really 560 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 8: easily because they're great guys and it's just it's really 561 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 8: a good mix and they're able to share some of 562 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 8: their experience from other places and bring it into the 563 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 8: room as well. 564 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: The Jaguars host the Texans Sunday at one o'clock. We'll 565 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: talk to you Sunday at noon for countdown to kick 566 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: off on the Jaguar RS Radio Network.