WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Parsons Comparison 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:06.920 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:16.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.200 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:31.280 Star in Frisco. Elliott and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:37.680 heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It is 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:42.720 a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.280 helping fans get in on the game. The chip and 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:51.800 dip of Talking Cows. Gotta keep that, We gotta keep that. Yeah, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.960 the Chip Talking Cowboys, that's what it is, and that's 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.920 what it is today. 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Yeah, how about that? 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.760 You're winning against the Patriots? Is looking a lot better 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.080 as the year goes along. Talk about a team that's 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.800 nine and four and playing really well, even in some 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.360 harsh conditions in Buffalo. Are they that good? Or is 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.480 the AFC not as good as we thought it was? 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.320 If you could throw the ball three times and still 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.639 win the ball game in fifty five miles, pour wins. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:53.800 What did you when you were watching the game last night? 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.400 What were your thoughts on the game? I mean just physical, physical, 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.600 I mean exactly the same things that we were worry 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.200 about when we played him. I love that game last night. Yeah, 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.960 I loved it. And it just shows it is And 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.200 the thing about, you know, the way that football is changing. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.560 Everybody's talking about, well, you gotta throw the ball, you 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:12.040 gotta stretch the field. Belichick doesn't care about any of that. 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.560 And I came to a thought last night. If I 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.320 was a young coach in the league, I would be 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:19.080 trying to find my way to New England. I would 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.880 be trying to get the recipe. I want some of it, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.240 piece of it. But just think about this. It's not 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:30.919 only is it Bill Belichick's defense, but it's also his offense. Now, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.399 you can change the position, you could change the coordinators, 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.000 all of that, but you're not gonna go out on 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.799 the park and throw the ball fifty one times. If 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.480 Bill Belichick is the head coach period. That's the same 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.680 thing with Nick Saban in Alabama. That's I mean, that's 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.320 the key to success. Everybody's right, and you can bring 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.400 in what you ever offensive coordinator you want, but you're 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.560 not gonna throw the ball all over the place in 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:53.080 three passes yesterday that was crazy. Yeah, Matt Jones finished 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.040 the game two of three passing for nineteen yards, and 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.680 they gotta win now. Harris ran for one eleven, Stevenson 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.400 I think had twenty four twenty five carries something of 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.320 the sword and they were able to run all over 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.320 that Bill's defense. And maybe the Bills aren't exactly what 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.160 the Bills have been the last couple of years. But 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.080 even with that being said, I mean, the AFC's a mess. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.919 So is the NFC. Though is now the Cowboys two 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.200 games up on the Washington football team, We're going to 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.840 talk about Washington a little bit more in depth later 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.560 in the week, But is there any concern right now 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.040 around this Cowboys team and trying to hold on to 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.160 that division lead? Because if you lose this week one game, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.919 it's a two game turnaround. You could either be up 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.840 by three by winning the game, or you could be 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.120 down by or excuse me, up by only one if 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.960 you lose the game. Is there any concern surrounding this one? 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.000 I think there's always concern whenever you have ales in 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.880 the column, you know, I mean, you don't want to 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.640 leave this up to debate, you know. I think the 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.680 Dallas Cowboys had their opportunity to really clinch things, you know, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.320 a couple of weeks back, and they missed their opportunities. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.160 You know, they went one for four or whatever it 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.600 was they're in during that stretch. So they now they 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.520 find themselves in a situation whereas are getting hot and 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.920 they're trying to get back you know, hot again as well. 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.480 So you know, these guys are going into a game 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.920 or Washingtons on what a four game win streak, yep, 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.440 four game win streak, right, We're on a one game 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.160 win streak, so, uh, you know, it's kind of a 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.200 this you created. You created a situation. You created a situation, 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.640 so I wouldn't say worried, but go out there, hand 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.640 of your business, you know, and you know you got 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.360 you got some of your boys coming back to the crew, 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.560 you know, just you know, squad coming back, so you 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:27.920 should be able to go out there, have a good 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.640 time and get back back when you're winning. Way, did 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:37.040 you just swag surfing? Absolutely? Just kind of you get 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.400 into it, get Gregory, you get Gallamore, you get Tristan. 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:43.800 I don't know if Tristan be back this week? This week, yeah, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.680 next week, and whoever you want throw in the middle. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.920 You know, you know what said Osageza, throw him in 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:50.680 the mix. And then you got freaking d Law and 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.839 then you put Mica behind them. You should be feeling 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.040 really good against those guys that don't have a tight 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.600 end unfortunately for them right now. And and Tristan back 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.560 this week by the way, hey oh yeah, yeah, one games. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.159 That's right, they got reduced. You're right, you're right, Thank you, Chris, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:10.240 thank you. Yeah, I completely forgot. So everybody's favoritebody's back 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.800 about that. Everybody can be back. This is turning into 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.120 that's true. A lot of these guys are hopeful to 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.160 be back. Nevil Gallimore, Randy Gregory not officially back in 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.400 the Cowboys, will be back on the practice field tomorrow, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.640 so we'll get a better look at it as that 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.400 rolls around. But speaking specifically of kind of going back 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.480 to the draft, we talked about that yesterday and how 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.000 the draft was one of those things with Micah Parsons 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.560 is like, Oh, now you look at this defense and 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.279 you go, oh, there's de Marcus Lawrence. Oh, there's Randy Gregory. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.840 Oh my goodness, that's Nevil Gallimore in the middle. Oh, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.799 and there's Micah Parsons, who's clamoring for being the defensive 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.560 player of the Year as a rookie. That's a scary 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.200 defense for any opposing offense to turn up and look at. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:55.159 And especially with a guy like Taylor Heineke, who still 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.880 taking his lumps in the NFL, I feel like you're 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.480 gonna get pressure on him and make things for him 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.360 all day Sunday and Dan Quinn, you know, pretty much 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.000 pointed the spotlight on the fact that these guys hadn't 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.240 even had but twenty eight snaps together as a group, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:14.080 meaning Gregory Lawrence and also Micah And if you look 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.240 at that in combination and you say to yourself, like, 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.920 obviously those are your main guys, your hunters. I putting 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.200 them all on the field together. I think Taylor Heineken, 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.240 if he's got sitting down studying film right now, he's 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.279 trying to figure out how he's gonna get rid of 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.240 the ball. They're gonna have to do some things defensively 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.440 to create pressure. That's where we I think the last 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.200 and you look at those losses, we were not creating 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.359 the same pressure that we had been creating before, and 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.559 therefore consequently it cost us on the back end of 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.200 our defense. We talk about what Anthony Brown struggles with 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.200 as far as small, quick wide receiver as well. Got 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:54.120 a couple of them. Yeah, you know DeAndre Carter, and 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.200 I'm sure he's gonna be locked up with him maybe 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.839 in the for the majority of the time, but Terry McLaurin, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.440 I expect, you know, for Digs to be on him. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.919 But I just think that getting those guys that you 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.520 just talked about up front, get putting pressure on tel Haneke. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.400 I think that's gonna make the difference in this game. 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.240 And obviously dak not turning the ball over, not you know, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.680 having any turnovers. Would you rather have heine in the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.800 pocket or out the pocket? I'd rather have him in 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.200 the pocket, I think. I think that's what I'm talking about. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.680 As we're talking about putting pressure on him, I'm like, 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.440 maybe we just contain, you know, like just containing because 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.720 he's dangerous when he gets out the ball. Like most things, 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.600 you know, you want to try and flush him out, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.440 make him uncomfortable. And this is what I'm saying when 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.880 I say, contain him in the pocket, get pressure on him. 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:41.120 You want him you want to collapse? Yes, yeah, I 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.600 wanted to collapse. Yeah, if he's trying to escape out 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.160 you know, I believe that the way that we saw 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:52.280 Micah clothes on a bootleg, I don't think Heineke even 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.280 attempts or tries anything like that. But out in space, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.880 I trust our guys, Mica and the other group with 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.280 the speed that we have defense. I think that is 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.760 the difference from last year this year is the team speed. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.440 Did you real quickly here? I agree with you completely 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.080 because you look sideline to sideline quarterbacks that have tried 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:13.240 to scramble and I'm not talking about designed runs that's different. 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.360 Scrambling out of the pocket have had almost zero success 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.679 against the Cowboys this year. And I'll go dive deeper 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.720 in the stats and bring you back from homework tomorrow. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.160 But I mean, look at guys like Patrick Mahomes. As 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.400 soon as he decides to tuck it and take off, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:27.960 Parsons is right on him. You can have the same 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.160 thing with Gregory Lawrence. I mean, those are guys that 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.680 can race you to the edge and for the most part, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.520 win that battle to the edge, win that race to 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.440 the sideline. And if that's the case, then maybe he's 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.320 not as dangerous with his legs as a scrambler as 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.959 opposed to what you've seen in the past. Yeah, I 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.600 don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.640 agree with that. Simply because of the fact what we 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:50.479 talked about yesterday in terms of Dak and how he's 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.960 not utilizing his abilities to be able to continue to 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.800 move the chains. I think Heinie gets it. If there's 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.680 one thing that he gets, he gets how to move 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.560 the chains with his legs, and he's not trying to 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.240 have these plays out. I feel he's not trying to 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.360 get out the pocket and buy time so they could 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.160 throw bombs like Mahomes or you know, Jalen Hurts some 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:07.720 of these other guys. You know, these guys like they 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.559 extend plays. He's not trying to extend to play. He's 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.160 just trying to move the chains. And I think moving 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.440 the ball. Yeah, I think that's the thing that he 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.200 does well. He understands that, like if things break down, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.880 he's going forward. He's going forward, he's sliding, and he's 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.760 getting right back to the huddle, right, And that's what 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.080 kind of No. I see that too. Yeah, I see 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.600 that too. I think the other side. Just adding to that. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.040 The other thing that I see is his offensive line 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.000 is weak, and a lot of that running is I'm 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:34.240 running cus have to and I don't trust that my 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.200 head might not get taken off if you know, I 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.080 don't anticipate this guy holding this blind side black block 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.440 long enough. Um. I just you know, either way, I 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.760 think they're going to Washington. The Washington football team is 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.560 going to be an opponent because of how hot they are. 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.480 We're gonna have to get on them early. We cannot 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.719 allow them to get any moment. Yeah, we gotta get 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:54.680 on them early, and we can't allow them to build 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.440 any momentum, they try and do some really interesting things. 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.960 And that's why you know you talked about yesterday Logan 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.200 Thomas and his acl being out. He would have been 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.000 a big factor in this game for us to have 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.120 to concentrate on. But also Antonio Gibson out of the 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.480 backfield's going to be something that's important for us also. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.280 And McKissick, and he's I don't know if he's out. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.599 They have out for this out last game. There's a 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:19.400 chance he returns. Okay. McKissick is different when I watched 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.439 the Tampa film on them, mckissic is him and Gibson 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.559 are you know? The tandem backs very different from one. Another. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.040 Thing about McKissick that worries me is him in space 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.880 with the ball when they get him on screens and 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.720 stuff like that. So that's something that I think we 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.320 have to worry about. But if we can, if we 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.439 could stop them, discourage them from doing any of those things, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.680 I think we make this game easy for ourselves because 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.600 Heineke will make a mistake. Is this the most threatening 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.560 tandem that we faced this year out their backfield? I 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.360 do not think so, especially the way that Gibson is played. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.760 Gibson hasn't necessarily put up the numbers to scare me 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.560 now the film and the matchup wise, it might scare 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.160 me a little bit, but not enough to where it 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.480 could compare to what we've seen previous. Would you put 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.280 over them? Oh, I would already. I would put the 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.600 Bronchos tandem in front of them, easy, Toronte Williams and 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.520 Melvin Gordon. Those guys tore you up, and they've torn 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.120 up the majority of the league. They're one of three 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.839 teams right now with at least two five hundred plus 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.160 rushing backs. The Cowboys are the other ones. The Packers 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.640 are the other ones. So I would definitely put the 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.040 Bronchos in front of that by like a lot. And 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.480 I underestimated Williams man. Yes, he's a he's a good 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.200 player now and he's a lot more physical than these guys, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.600 I believe Gibson. I don't see them as being those 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.280 physical inside runners. I just don't. I don't take that 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.640 from them. But I think that what they do individually 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.319 different from one another, it's very unique. So it's this 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.000 is a one and two. This is a one A 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.079 in one B situation. With these running backs, so I mean, 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.559 I agree, but I do agree with with Kylins. Well, 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.240 I think Denver's running back tandem was a lot tougher. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.280 I think their scheme it was better. I'm not I 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.679 think I'm I give these guys to as personnel wise 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.720 and the backfield. I give Denver the edge scheme wise. 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.760 Those guys are good within that scheme. These guys are 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.559 good individually. I guess that that makes it nothing to 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.199 say those guys no, no no, no, I would I prefer 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.120 to have these Well, what do you think about Antonio 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.200 Gibson's game so much? So like that really gives you 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:21.040 pause that I think he's versatile. I think he's very versatile. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.120 I think he can. I mean, he's a guy that 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.199 you can trust inside it out. I don't think he's 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.760 gonna necessarily kill you. But he's consistent. I feel like 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.840 he's consistent if you let him get things going and 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.920 then you throw them a kissican there and he's just 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.440 just just put somebody on him, please, yeah, because because 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:36.760 you don't want him to go out there and you know, 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.000 come out in the emotion, out the backfield, go out 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.720 into the slod or go out into the outside he 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.120 catch a little hitch route and he turns it into something. Right. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.960 That's their version of getting run plays as well, much 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.040 like we did last week with CD. So I just 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.040 think that they're a good two headed monster. I mean, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.000 I respect him, I respect him. Yeah, I think that's 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.640 something that the Cowboys are gonna have to look at 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.440 moving forward, is is how are they gonna slow down 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.320 tandems like that? Because I'm just mentioned the Packers gonna 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.280 bring it. If you see them in the playoffs, you 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.720 can see it health different places as well. Yeah, especially 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:07.800 when they get healthy. That offensive line's playing a lot 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.240 thos pound you though. You know those guys like they 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.280 just beat you down. You know Jones, he'll he'll, he'll 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.280 gas on you from time to time. But then they 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.160 bringing a dog on the horse at the battlefield and 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.640 he just comes downhill two hundred and sixty pounds or 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.240 something stupid like that. Yeah. Now, there was some breaking 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.640 news this morning around the Washington football team. Logan Thomas 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.280 the tight end underwin An MRI and it did not 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.640 show that he had torn me mcl So that's fantastic 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.800 news for Washington. He's most likely going to be out 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.440 against the Cowboys regardless. But that is huge news for 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.360 the Washington football team to try and get him back 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.560 because he's a huge part of that offense. Now, we 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.040 talked about some of those defensive reinforcements and having guys 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.880 like Devil Gallimore and Randy Gregory back in the fold, 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.840 and it's fantastic and you're excited about it. I want 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.000 to ask about some of these young defensive backs they 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.240 haven't seen a ton of time. How about Kelvin Kelvin Joseph. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:02.800 That's the number one name on my list, And I 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.000 was I was asked this fan or asked this question 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.080 on the fan last night by our guy Zack and 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.040 Eric in the nighttime slot, and they asked me either 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.680 like why haven't we seen Kelvin Joseph outside of the 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.800 suspension and the injuries special teams and exactly though, why 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.560 is he not in a rotation with a guy like 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.400 Anthony Brown? Is it time that we see him in 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.040 the rotation? You know? I think if he would have 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.080 won this game in two days, maybe this would have 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:31.200 happened by now. I just think there's some layered things 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.720 that's happened in Monday through Saturday that's not allowing the 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.520 coaching staff to be confident in his abilities. I feel 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.080 as though this veteran group that we have of coaches 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.720 is not going to, in spite of where you were 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.120 picked in the draft, going to allow you to get 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.800 out on the field and make any mistakes. We go 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:51.160 back to is He Mukuamo and Nashuton Wright, guys that 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.320 we saw legitimately making strides. Not so much Kevin Joseph. Though. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.080 It's not that I'm not confident in his abilities, because 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.560 I believe that once he gets his shot, he's gonna 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.960 be there for it. I just think right now, him 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.800 working his way into rotation via special teams, that's gonna 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.800 be his way. And I think earlier in the season 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.560 you heard coach Dan Quinn talk a lot about that, 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.640 him working his way into the rotation by being on 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.080 special teams. But I don't think his time is now. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.240 I think Anthony Brown is, with all of his shortcomings 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.480 and being picked on by the refs. I don't care 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.120 what nobody says, he's being picked up, spotlighted by the refs. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.480 I just think that right now is a He's a 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.720 step up over Kelvin Joseph. He has played fourteen snaps 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.840 all year, Joseph has fourteen and now five of those 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.200 have been in run defense and nine of those have 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.720 been in coverage, so outside of special teams anyways, he's 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.560 played teams snaps. That's not what you want to see 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.880 from a second round player. And that's the thing that 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:48.080 you also got to think about, is there's a lot 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.240 of pressure on him to develop because if you're picked 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.080 as a second round player, you're expected to be a 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.960 starter by the end of year one. You're expected to 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.440 be at least in that conversation, and I'm right there 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.280 with you. I don't see that you had. You don't 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.920 have that. You don't have that conversation with Calvin Joseph. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.080 There are a lot of people whenever Anthony Brown does 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.640 have his shortcomings that will say, oh, let's just bring 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.800 in Kelvin Joseph. But I don't think that's a legitimate 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.200 conversation at the moment. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.240 I'm not questioning out here, So I just a good point. 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.040 I'm not questioning that dude. Remember remember watching him play. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.120 I think he may even played against him, Um, but 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.440 he he's a he's a dog, you know. I don't 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.160 know if it has anything to do with his with 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.920 the lack there of ability, if his preparation is not 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.360 on point of his physicality is not, there's a whole 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.000 lot of question, Manjuri, there I had a question just 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.160 came in my head right now, Like when you came 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.040 into the league, there were obvious things that you were 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.200 doing in the Pac twelve that you could get away 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.960 with that. When you came into the league, you couldn't 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.680 get away with that. No more. Do you think that 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.120 he's probably suffering the same things things that he's doing 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.200 innately on the practice field that's like, oh, no, dog, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.800 that will get you burnt man. Possibly, Yeah, So I 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.640 means we can we can throw out there all the 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.560 all the what ifs, you know, without us actually having 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:02.440 seen seeing him in practice and understanding what they're just 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.760 what their decisions are. But there's something, there's there's something obviously, 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.119 I mean, like I said, this is a very this 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.720 is very veteran, you know, squad in terms of coaching, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.880 and they know who's ready and who's not ready. And obviously, 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.880 you know, we know that special teams is the way 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.200 into playing you know, regardless of your second round pick 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:20.440 or beneath you know, if you're a first round pick, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.679 you're playing. It doesn't matter. Second round pick, you should 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.280 be in the rotation. But you know, you gotta remember 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.720 there's two other guys ahead of you that are getting 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.560 paid five million dollars a year or two that that 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:31.560 have a lot of reps underneath their belts. So that's 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.160 the reality. I was shot. I'm really shocked sometimes about 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.360 nation Right and his inability to give that's read. I'm 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.119 more concerned. Yeah, and why is that? I just I 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.320 just I don't know. I know, I know Kelvin was 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.399 a higher draft pick, but I think that Nashan and 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.159 his physical attributes work really well within this systems fit it. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.280 He just fits you. I mean, I try not to 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.080 look at the whole draft pick. I know there's value 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.720 there that it just politics or politics, finances or finances. 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.320 But Nashan he has the ability to be something great. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.320 And I think the same thing what Israel Mukuamo. I 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.840 think he has the physicality, but the physical attributes. But 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.840 we talked about the physicality part in preseason. You know, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:09.639 put him on an island out there and you know, 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.520 luckily he's still around to be able to show that 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.159 he can make some things happen. I don't know how 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:15.120 many snaps he's had on special teams, not a lot, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.200 But that's somebody that I'm excited about too, just because 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.320 of their size and in what they can do. Kelvin, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.040 I don't have a lot of information on him. I've 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.760 seen him. I see him on special teams. I see 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.080 him on part return and trying to stop some guys. 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.879 And you know, obviously I'm a big critic on special teams, 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.760 but I haven't seen him be dominant in that regard. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.760 So it's like, how do you expect somebody who's not 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.760 being dominant and special teams to come out of and 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.920 be dominant as a defender. And I think, to be fair, 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.959 Kelvin Joseph availability wise has not been there as much 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.080 as those other guys because of the injury earlier in 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.080