WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Will Parsons Start? 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:19.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.360 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.680 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:33.040 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:39.360 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.159 It is Wednesday, May nineteenth, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.080 Episode number one ten. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.120 The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:51.879 studios at the Star. We are presented by Geico, and 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.680 we appreciate you guys taking us some time with us 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.960 today to talk a little Cowboys football. Here on the Break, 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.080 got Nick, Dave and Amber with me. We're gonna catch 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.160 you guys up on the rook minicamp which you guys 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.920 attended last week. We'll get some perspective from you on 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.640 some things you saw, some things that stood out to you. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.280 We'll also talk a little bit about schedule release. So 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.679 we haven't had a chance to talk about yet. Cowboys 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.200 and the NFL released there's there are twenty twenty one 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:18.560 schedule last week, and so we'll catch up on your 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.720 thoughts on some of the best things and worst things 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.880 about the schedule. And then we got a little game 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.679 with c No, we haven't played that in a long time. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.920 Amber's got some questions for us, and maybe even we 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.520 will get to some fan questions a day. Maybe maybe 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.160 we'll get some phone calls from some fans and hear 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.200 what you guys have to say. Here's some questions from you, 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.800 and see what these guys have to say. How's everybody 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.760 doing today? Great? Good, awesome, good good good. Let's jump 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.319 right in and let's start with the rookie minicamp. It 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.600 was last week. Obviously it's not a full contact type thing. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.840 Guys are in shorts and T shirts and helmets. But 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.120 I'll start first by going around the table and just 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.680 getting some perspective of what may have stood out, one 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:01.560 thing that stood out to you as you watched those practices. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.880 Let's start first with you, Dave m Maybe to start 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.600 with somebody else since they were actually here and they 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.080 forgot Yes, you were not here. You you didn't get it, 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.040 but I'm sure you've you've seen and heard something. Anyway, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.360 let's start with yeah, I'll formulates I mean yeah, I 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.040 can formulate something, but maybe start with somebody that Let's 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.480 start with you. Well, I feel like I'm kind of 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.560 taking the obvious one here, but I mean it starts 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.400 with this draft class, starts with Micah Parsons, and I 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.720 think that, you know, it's it's one of those things where, um, 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.720 you know when Zach Martin coming when when it's Tyrn 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.200 Smith's coming back, because I mean, these guys can't block him. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.480 I understand that pads aren't on yet and all that, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.720 but he could do what he wanted to. Is he 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.600 was moving really well and he could get by the 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.880 guys that they had blocking there. So the composition will 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.480 be better. Um, you know, the pads come on, it's 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.040 more physical. It's harder for offensive linemen to really, you know, 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.200 get your hands on these guys and all that, because 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.040 you know, especially a first round pick, you had to 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.839 be careful with it. But I thought he look from 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.320 his movement, he looked really good. He looked like you 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.120 want him to look. In that first first day. What 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.000 stood out to me was Dan Quinn. He was the 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.600 fact to see him in there, and again this is 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.480 not a real practice or anything, but the fact that 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.639 you see him so hands on and being involved. Just 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.440 it reminded me of, um, oh my god, my brain 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:27.120 the coach I really like Rod Marinelli. No no, no, no, no, 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.680 why would you say him? I didn't like that one 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:35.320 that's not employed. Sorry, I didn't mean like but christ 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.280 Ra Shard, Sure, yeah, Shards with the Saints. Now, okay, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.240 well one, I know he wasn't necessarily great here, but 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.880 one thing that I loved about him was how involved 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.240 he was within the players and the defense and just 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.080 being in there in the game. Now, then Quinn, he's 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.960 a defensive coordinator, that's not necessarily his role, you know. 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.840 He the fact that he went in there when quintin Bahanna, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.520 Sorry if I said his name wrong, but when now 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.600 banged up his shoulder, I believe left for a little bit, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.880 and then dan Quinn goes in there at tackle and 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.320 just it's hands on it that that is super cool 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.440 for me. I love to see it. I love to 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.119 see a leader that can be involved and just get 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.320 in there with the players and just be a part 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.160 of it. And that's exciting to me. And I just 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.719 absolutely love anytime I see a coach, especially a coordinator, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.559 just being that involved and making sure because that again, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.840 it's so important for the chemistry too, with bunding with 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.480 the players and all that. I feel like players will 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.800 look up to him even more when someone does that. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.440 So that stood out for me for sure. I just 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.839 absolutely loved it. So I was. I was at a 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.240 old and very dear friend's wedding. That's why I wasn't here. 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.159 And I really appreciate y'all giving me the work life 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.599 balance to do that, because I was like, he get here, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.560 what is he? What are you talking about? No? I 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.040 cannot believe you, Miss Ruthie. You know what that's that's 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.080 it embarrassing. I always fast forward five years down the 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.880 road with your friends in New Orleans and they're like, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.839 you didn't even come to the wedding. Why, Well, we 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.960 were watching Dan Quinn in the middle of this rookie 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.479 Mini Caamp and Michael Parton, which never holds up. I 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.120 actually I did. I did miss a dear friend's wedding 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.719 for the Seahawks Cowboys playoff game, and that that holds 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.720 water for me, makes a little bit. My friend Rob, 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.680 he busts on me all the time. He's like, glad 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:34.520 you loved me enough to come to my wedding. Over 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.560 a football game, and I'm like, yeah, that's the playoffs, 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.960 and like Dak had that run and like, I don't 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:40.320 you know, I love you, but I don't feel that 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.719 bad about that. But like to miss a wedding for 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.880 a rookie Mini Caamp, yeah, I'm life moments. You gotta 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.360 do some life. But regardless, regardless, you know, I just 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.200 had my eye on it from Afar and two things, um, 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.440 two things that really jumped out to me, which you know, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.600 you definitely don't want to overreact, but the team sent 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.520 out the clip of Jabril Cox getting a pick in 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.599 some seven on seven, which it was a tipped ball, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.880 and the quarterback that threw it is not going to 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.279 play on Sundays, so take all of that with a 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.080 grain of salt. But the guy, the guy is noted 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.280 for his coverage ability, so for him to step out 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.480 there and do it, it wasn't just a pick. It 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.880 was thirty yards down the field, It was a covery. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.280 It was getting back there in coverage. I mean that 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.400 that was the impressive part I thought, And then the 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.039 other one I was I was embarrassed about how excited 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.000 I got about this because I you know, we argued 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.159 last week. I was like, don't put don't put these 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.279 expectations on these day three picks. That's dumb. But then 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.760 we actually posted the clip of Barry Church from the 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.159 player's lounge. Barry was like blown away by Israel Mukuamu. 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.560 I mean, he was just gushing about his movement skills, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.080 his you know, how smooth he looks. He's got the hips. 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.200 And you know, Barry's not the he's not he's not 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.960 going to the Hall of Fame, but he played safety 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.480 in the NFL for nine years. Like I trusted a 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.800 bunch of money. Yeah, absolutely, Like I trust his opinion 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.800 a lot. So for him to like, if you haven't 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.760 seen it, go look on our channels for it. He 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.080 had so much good stuff to say about the kid, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.240 and I was like, all right, again, I know he's 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.520 in shorts, but if Barry Church thinks he looks that great, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.040 then I'm going to take his word for it that 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.280 I should be intrigued. Here's Bucky Brooks listed in mcquamu 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.880 as his top one of his top five favorite picks. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.000 He really loved that that pick. I'll say this though, Um, 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.280 it's intriguing that a guy that's played it like Barry 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.000 Church has played it. He knows what he's looking for. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.920 But I'll say this though, cornerbacks that convert to safety 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.600 are going to look good at safety in rookie minicamp 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.520 because they're not hitting anybody, and they're not you know, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:45.760 they're just can you keep up with a tight end cornerback? Right? 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.160 But what's gonna make him make that transition is can 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.360 he make the calls as he instinctive? And will he 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.320 get in there and hit? And I think he will, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.000 but I just think it's early because any corner is 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.600 gonna look what are we looking at him? Like? Oh, well, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.320 they have video of him. That's what Chris does. Our 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.680 producers all over it. Now keep talking. He definitely looks 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.520 he looks the part for sure, and he talked about 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.240 his length. I got a chance to talk to him 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.200 the other day and he said, you know, you know, 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.000 he said, hey, Jerry, you got the best cornerback in 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.880 the draft. And then about an hour later, Dan Quinn 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:19.880 called from and said, yeah, about that, we're moving in 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.040 to safety, and so I said, does your confidence like 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.560 carry over? He's like, oh yeah, they're gonna get the 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.520 best safety in the draft. So you know, he's he's 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.560 a confident dude. And don't think teams didn't pick on him. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.000 He played corner opposite J. C. Hornet South Carolina. He 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.200 they threw with him, and so he made some man 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.080 enough plays to obviously get drafted. He wears thirty eight, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.000 so he's probably gonna be a baller. If I had 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.040 to guess, if there was one thing, if there was 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.640 one player that you would say you have a different 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.880 opinion of now than maybe you had before, good or 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.480 bad or you know, just something about them stood out 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.880 that you didn't really expect to notice during a minicamp, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:03.520 what would he be? Nick Um? I again, I'm probably 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.880 stealing this one. Probably Nashan, right. I thought he did 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:12.160 a pretty good job, especially that second day, and he 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.440 was he was making a lot of plays. He looked 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:16.800 like a cornerback. It's supposed to me to look and 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.600 even though he's tall. I thought he did a nice job, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.760 you know, break on the balls and stuff like that. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.160 But as Dave said, you know, it's hard to tell 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:26.720 out there with the quarterbacks and the receivers and all that, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.320 you know, but but he did a nice job. And 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.080 I thought, you know, not that I had mixed opinions 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.800 about him, but I just you know, we'll see what 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.000 he looked like. I thought I did a good job. Yeah. 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:38.440 Let me start off by saying that I came in here. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.559 You know, it's been a while since we've seen football 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.600 and players being on the field, so you come in 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.640 here excited. Okay, We're finally gonna get to see some action. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.800 And it's hard, at least for me, it was difficult 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.880 because I'm judging with another like level where I have 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.520 to okay, hold on a second, let me step back. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:02.160 This is first day, second day, a rookie Minican, Like, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.559 let me not be so judgmental, because there were a 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.040 lot of things that happened. I'm like, are you kidding me? 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.040 This is this is what I'm seeing on the field 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.160 right now, And you know, so it was really tough 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.600 for me to even judge. And you know, back to 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:20.480 what Nick was talking about Mika Parsons, Yes he looked good, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.199 but then you go back and look at the offense 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.800 how awful they were. So it's just hard to get 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.160 a grasp to the whole thing. So I'm gonna lean 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:32.160 on one of their interviews with Kelvin Joseph I think 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.600 that my opinion has started to change a little bit. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.640 And I know even before then, I didn't want to 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.160 be so judgy because I don't know him. There's a 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.160 lot of information that I don't know about. So listening 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.240 to him speak and the way that he was talking, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.720 it just gave me ease and it made me feel 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.559 a little bit better about his commitment with the team 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.840 and what he's here to do aside from everything that 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.000 media and even though so we talked about it on 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.160 the show last week that we've been talking about you know, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.160 it's a really one percent committed to football based on 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.280 his I gues hobby and all of that outside of 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.400 the field. So just the way that he spoke and 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.520 just kind of saying, you know, like there's no and 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:19.800 it's true. Everyone can have a hobby and you can 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.120 be one hundred percent committed to your job and all that. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.560 But just hear hearing it out of his mouth and 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.959 not just that another one of his teammates just kind 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.240 of backing him up and all that. So it just 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:34.560 made me feel someone better and say, Okay, this guy, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.600 it's here for business. I mean, if it's fur the 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.440 money and to get paid, we all here to get 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:45.000 paid too, So it just my opinion on him started 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.800 changing a little bit, which, by the way, is I 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.280 thought an interesting I saw you tweeted about this Dave 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.560 about him mentioning the fact that you know, yeah, the money, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.880 the money is important. It's a driver. And there were 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.840 some fans that were kind of like, well, that makes 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.200 me a little bit weirded out because he's doing it 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.560 for the money. And my thought was like, I think 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.679 we all, to some respects do our jobs for the money. Now. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.920 Don't get me wrong. You can love what you do, 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.240 but it still is a job. And part of why 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.800 you still do it is because you're able to make money, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.760 you're able to take care of your family, and if 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.640 you're able to get to that level playing the NFL, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.880 you're able to take care of maybe your grandkids and 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.640 great grandkids as a part of doing this job. So 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.760 that's a great motivator and there should be no there 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.680 should be nothing about that that should be considered bad. 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.319 I don't think I will speak for Nick. I think 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.679 I can worked with you for a while, like we 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.680 are living out our childhood dreams dream job like and 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.640 so many people would kill to do what we do. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.000 If you told me tomorrow that I wasn't getting paid 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.520 for it, I would be pretty pissed off, Like, no, no, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.959 that's not that's not part of the deal, and I 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.080 won't be there the day. Yeah, like that. We got 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.959 to come to some arrangement, like, no, I need money. 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.520 Money is important to me. It ain't a dream job 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.320 if you're not getting paid to do it. And these guys, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.840 I mean, not very many people can do what Kelvin 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.360 Joseph does, so he's he's worth a lot of money 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.520 because of that, and the fans that have a problem 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.640 with it are the reason he's worth as much money 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.720 as he is. So I hate that attitude, and I'm 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.480 with you. Took the words right out of my mouth. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.520 Ag I thought he was. He was really impressive the 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.280 way he handled that. And he was like, I know 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.440 the difference between my profession and my hobbies, And again 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.839 that's something everybody should relate to. We all have things 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.920 that we enjoy doing on our own time when it 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.200 doesn't affect our work, and there's nothing wrong with that. 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.640 But as long as you're committed to what you get 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.480 paid to do, you know what your job is. I 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.079 was going to say Monday to Friday. But I guess 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.120 it's really more sick whenever you're called upon. Yeah, that's 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.360 kind of my thing too. I think a couple of 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.920 people went after us on Twitter, at least me, you know, 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.680 because it's all about your as long as your focus 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.880 is here, and it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.640 what it is, if it's bowling or you know, playing 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.560 tennis or golf like Romo did, or rap. You know, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.840 I mean, as I as I told William who's upstairs. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.360 I told him, you know, I'm not against rap. I'm 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.320 not against rappers. You know which is I don't know 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.280 if you know that reference, but no, you don't know 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.280 that song. I know. Anyways, I love rap. By the way, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.400 if it's three, I would gonna say Nick's sweet spot 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.080 is like ninety to ninety five. Yeah, problem, and then 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.040 then it kind of then it switches more. It's more 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.400 of an R and B thing. Yeah, I agree with you, guys. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.640 I talked to him and I liked what he said. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.080 Now he does have a focus though. One of his 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:32.120 focus is um getting out of twenty four. He doesn't 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.520 really want that number. So he was like, he comes 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.200 up to me and he was like who's in the 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:38.360 number one, number two. I'm like, well, you know the 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:40.480 Pro Bowl kickers and number two, so good luck with 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.600 that one. But you know who knows. I mean, I 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.440 don't want him in twenty four either, And which I'm 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.680 I'm I'm the one that like, I don't I don't 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.360 believe in superstition, but like they keep giving twenty four 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.800 to these young cornerbacks and it hasn't really worked out 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.360 for Clayborn. Cheetoh, those are the two big ones. Yeah, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.440 the number did it, no problem? The number to do it, 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.480 Like it won't be his number that determines his success. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.760 But I still just see it about any of them. 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.640 But I'm just like, oh, we're not done. Put that 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.200 on the right. I mean, that's the way I look 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:13.760 at it, is it? Especially if he didn't want it? Like, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:20.720 is it true what I heard about number nine for 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.040 the Air? I don't know what I'm talking. I don't know. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.040 I don't know where that stands right now. Yeah, I 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.640 don't know my source. It's kind of if I honestly 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.560 don't know whether it's great stores. So I'm just, uh, 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:39.760 I don't know making that we're not talking about numbers. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.120 Those guys are going to change numbers. I know, I 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.960 know of two guys that are definitely gonna change their numbers. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.800 Um hasn't really been announced, and for some of them 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.760 it's important for them to announce it. So UM And 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:54.440 I'm sure once once the roster gets pared down and 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.520 all that, because you got like multiple quarterbacks, you got 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.640 multiple punters, those numbers are going to start when opening 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.520 up and the guys will switch around, like, yeah, Parsons 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.000 is gonna wear eleven, but you know that, but yeah, 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.280 we know that, but like, yeah, you see changes every 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.360 year after training game. It's fine, this will probably be 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.400 another year we'll see that. Let's talk about Mike Michael Parsons. 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.160 Nick you led with him. We found out last week 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:20.760 in an interview that he did I think was it 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.360 exclusive with us, but I know we had it. But 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.600 he talked about the fact that that he is right 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.840 now starting off working at middle linebacker, which I think 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.920 for everybody was kind of like a home Okay, so 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:34.840 talk to me about where what do you think that 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.200 means as far as you know, how he fits into 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.400 what they're gonna do. Knowing they've got two linebackers who 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.840 have at different times played middle linebacker. What does this 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.240 mean for that position group? If he's your guy that 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.440 starts the season at middle linebacker. Well, I thought it 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.560 was interesting. When they asked McCarthy about it, naturally, he 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.400 kind of shot it down like it wasn't that big 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.160 a deal. But one of the things that they wanted 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.160 him to do was to get in there and listen 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.480 and have the mic the headset in the in the 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.240 for the calls to so be able to make the call. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.400 So that's one of the things. But he said, all 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.959 the linebackers have to do two positions. They all have 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.960 to learn two spots. So him starting out in the 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.480 rookie miniicamp at middle linebacker is not that big a deal. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.080 But Parson said when asked about it, he said, yeah, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.280 they want me to go sideline the sideline and the 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.679 best way for me to do that is to be 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.960 right in the middle of the action. So, um, yeah, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.560 you know, what does it mean for where Layton's going 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.560 to play and all that? It's so hard to tell 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.000 because we don't really know how dan Quinn's going to 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.879 play this thing. He's he's got a lot of options. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.280 They're gonna they're gonna be on the field I think 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.359 if you can play, they'll be out there. They're gonna 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.560 do the exact same thing they did last year, which 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.200 is used the fact that nobody knows to try to 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.680 get an advantage, which did not work at all last year. 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.200 Hopefully it'll produce some better results this time around. But yeah, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.159 and rookie miniicamp doesn't really mean anything to me because, like, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.240 who else is out there with him? Jabril Cox, I 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:58.840 mean the Texas say, and m undrafted guy. I guess 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.639 you know, like it's not this isn't the real linebacker corps, 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.280 so but it is that. And that was the debate 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:08.640 about Parsons is like, is a pure off ball linebacker 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.879 who runs and hits worth a top ten pick or twelve. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.280 I know that's where he was eventually drafted. Is there 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.800 going to be a pass rush element or um? You know, 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.919 I thought something really interesting. It wasn't a coach, but 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.200 you know, we all respect the hell out of Todd Archer. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.040 He's been doing this for a long time. If he 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.600 says something, he's probably got good information about it. Yeah, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.399 he said he said something along the lines of like 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.320 Mica can play, Mike and I think Layton will be 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.520 back at will when this thing all shakes out. He 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.920 didn't say what didn't say? What he didn't say made 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.600 my eyebrows perk way up, because if that's really what's happening, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.560 then you're saying, what is the what is Jalen Smith's role? 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.680 Are You're going to have a thirteen million dollar role 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.399 playing linebacker and you talk about learning two positions? Is 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.639 Jalen gonna do Mike and Sam and be like you 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.879 you're Sam and bass and off the field and Nickel? 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.120 I think a lot of people would probably prefer that, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.439 but is you know, there's politics that go into this, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.040 whether it's money, whether it's the fact that Jalen is 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:07.639 one of the most visible players on the team, Like 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.360 how does that actually take shape? And we don't know. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.920 What I did say about Michael was if you're drafting 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.080 him where you're drafting him, I think there needs to 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.800 be a component of rushing the passer, whether that's doing 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.080 some edgework or just blitzing a lot. I wonder if 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:23.960 maybe Jalen could do that as well, Like if you 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.480 would rather just keep if you just want Michael to 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.600 play Mike one hundred percent of the time, that's fine, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:32.840 But Jalen Smith maybe could be your LEO or something 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:34.840 like they And that's what makes that so interesting is 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:36.960 they got to find something to do with one of 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.760 those guys aside from just play traditional off ball linebacker. Yeah, 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.399