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Speaker 2: You know, no matter on your last day, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: So hello everybody, I'm Tdjakes and I'm extremely glad to

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Speaker 3: have you here at my Next Chapter podcast. It is

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Speaker 3: so exciting and so fulfilling that you're going to listen

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Speaker 3: in today and learn something that may change your life

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Speaker 3: or change your perspective. As I present to you none

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Speaker 3: other than being comfortable Denzel Washington. Today, I'm joined by

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Speaker 3: a man whose talent has inspired generations, an Academy Award

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Speaker 3: winning actor, director, and storyteller. But beyond the accolades, Denzel

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Speaker 3: Washington is a man anchored in faith, family, and service.

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Speaker 3: In this conversation, we talk about staying grounded when fame

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Speaker 3: having a strong partner, and he closes with a heartfelt

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Speaker 3: Chapter one, Staying Grounded, I think there's a whole section

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Speaker 3: of people that didn't come to hear me that came this.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to thank you back to many many occasions

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Speaker 3: you and I have been in conversation. You might not

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Speaker 3: remember this. You're having breakfast. I think we're in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: What seasons?

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Speaker 3: He's just sitting there having breakfast like people, and I

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Speaker 3: And You've always been a very touchable, down to earth

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Speaker 3: person who seems to pay little attention to all the

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Speaker 3: tremendous accolades that have been afforded to you. Is that

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Speaker 3: part of the secret sauce that has kept you grounded

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Speaker 3: and added to the longevity of your career that you

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Speaker 2: My mother, God rests soul. She made it to ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: She yeah, she just passes past year. And she she

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Speaker 1: I said, mon, did you think, oh this was gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: She said, what did you say? All the people been

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Speaker 2: She started calling me superstar, So she said, okay, superstar,

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Speaker 5: So I got the message, you know, I got the message.

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Speaker 3: That grounding is something that's rare. Today we see people

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Speaker 3: rise up like Xenos and then crashed like nuclear bombs.

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Speaker 3: You have the added advantage of looking back over decades

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Speaker 3: When you start talking about longevity, there are many many

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Speaker 4: Longevity on the stage, I.

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Speaker 3: Tell people the lights are bright, but the heat is hot.

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Speaker 3: How did you make it?

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Speaker 4: How do I? How did you make.

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Speaker 2: It's nothing I did a special you know, been knocked

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Speaker 2: You know, the things you hear about and the things

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Speaker 1: I love seeing other people do well, always have.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the Boys Club now the Boys

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Speaker 3: Actually, you know, the funny thing about it is when

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Speaker 3: And you have been successful not only at acting on screen,

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Speaker 2: I tell people all the time they call it show business,

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Speaker 1: No business, no next show. And you know you have

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Speaker 3: And you have to know your worth, and you have

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Speaker 4: At what point did it hit you.

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Speaker 3: That I am worth more than how I'm being handled?

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Speaker 1: I'm just not I'm just that guy, you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not scared to say no, you know, and you

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Speaker 2: So that that you know, the Egyptians tried to take

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about the money. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: What made you go back to the stage and did it?

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Speaker 4: Was it nostalgic for you to be on that stage.

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Speaker 1: To the to the foundation. Between nineteen ninety and.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and five, I was doing the best I

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Speaker 4: Chapter two, Less is More. When I saw you.

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Speaker 4: Got a script.

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Speaker 2: You know, people don't understand the hardest thing to do

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Speaker 1: The hardest thing to do as a human being to listen, so.

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Speaker 7: Less is actually more, Less is actually less is more.

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Speaker 7: Please write that down, because less is more. One of

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Speaker 1: If it feels good to you, it probably isn't any good.

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Speaker 2: If you if you're feeling so good about yourself, then

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Speaker 4: In fact, I teased you about it.

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Speaker 3: I told you that you died so well that I

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Speaker 1: Yo, you you diedro That is training day those I.

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Speaker 3: The decision to keep these people who had never been

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Speaker 3: They said you started every morning of course, that's prayer.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 4: But it is not normal to start the day with prayer.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what other people do, but I

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Speaker 3: Set, I'm not talking about it in your personal life,

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Speaker 4: I'm not seeing a lot of people do that in Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Or well, we were down, We're Orion Charlotte for that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. It's funny Orange people.

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Speaker 2: Talk about Hollywood like it's a place where evil things have.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. I make movies,

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Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. Why does that happen with you?

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Speaker 1: Because I was raised right, I don't know that. You know,

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Speaker 3: He's a PK. Y'all give it up, piks.

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Speaker 3: coming from your faith?

443
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: That's sad that you say that. I have to even

444
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: say that because that's what we all should should do. Yeah,

445
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. There's nothing exceptional about.

446
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: Should should emphasis on the words should, But you know

447
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: without it sitting there talking to me, that that is exceptional.

448
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: That very few people have the kind of temperament, especially

449
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: that last had long and started that young. We have

450
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: not seen you. We've seen you do sexy scenes, but

451
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: we have not seen your body. You have not prostituted

452
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: yourself in any film at any time.

453
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: Oh, you haven't seen all the movies that.

454
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw you down to your drawers, but I

455
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: don't recall. Okay, let's let's keep it real.

456
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: A little bumping and grind.

457
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you did a little bumping and grinding, but

458
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: you never you you?

459
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible.

460
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, this out to take. We're gonna keep it real

461
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: for a minute. You didn't put your everything out there,

462
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: let me say it like that to get a role.

463
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: Why didn't you? And are you glad you did?

464
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: I had a mentor in college my senior year when

465
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: I really just started acting, and he talked to me

466
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: about never having to compromise, you know, myself, and.

467
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: I remembered that that that wasn't necessary, and I got

468
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: that guy.

469
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I've just been blessed beyond measure. I found

470
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: out early in college that I had this unique ability

471
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: so and things that were happening in my life.

472
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

473
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: Some people maybe have heard me talk about a woman

474
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: prophesied when I was twenty years old. She said, boy,

475
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna travel the world. And preach to millions of people.

476
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: She didn't say you're gonna be famous. She didn't say

477
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna win Oscar. She didn't say any of those things.

478
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: She said, you know you aren't going into the travel.

479
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: By the way, I was flunging out of college. I

480
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: had a one point seventh grade point average. I was

481
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: in my mother's beauty shop. And the reason I was

482
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: in her beauty shop was because I was not in school.

483
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: I was not in school that semester, and this woman,

484
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Miss Ruth Green, had this prophecy that that.

485
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Is coming true.

486
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: Uh huh, it's coming true.

487
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: It's coming true.

488
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: I talked to you on the phone, and I tell

489
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: you that I believe that you have something down inside

490
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: of you beyond the I thing from a spiritual perspective,

491
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: that is awakening. If you agree with that, tell us

492
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: what that feels like. And that has shown up in

493
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: your work, It has shown up off camera. What is

494
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: evolving in you now from a spiritual perspective.

495
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: It's just that it's evolving, you know. I remember talking

496
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 5: to Bishop Blake years ago. I said, well, you know,

497
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: should I should I become a preacher?

498
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: Should I?

499
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: He said, no, No, you have your pull pick.

500
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 4: You know, and and and use it.

501
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: So I do have everybody talk about a platform. I

502
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: got a pretty I guess, big platform, whatever you call it.

503
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got a pretty. Yeah.

504
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: So I try to try to use it for good.

505
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: Use it for good, use it for the chapter four

506
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: A Great Way.

507
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: One, Buffett says that if a man toward the autumn

508
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: of his life, and this is a poor quote of it,

509
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: but it's pretty close, uh has still maintained the respect

510
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: and love of the people who matter most, he is

511
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: a successful man. You live and work in an industry

512
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: where the falling apart of the home is the headlines

513
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: of the week, and people swept and swap in relationships

514
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: all the time. It is very difficult thing to be

515
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: who you are and still be a father, and still

516
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: be a husband. And yet somehow you have been graced

517
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: that the people who matter most still respect you. Tell

518
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: us how.

519
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I have a great wife. That's the answer. I have

520
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: a great Listen.

521
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: My wife is from right here, North Carolina. She was

522
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: a child prodigy. She was the Van Kliburn competitor, one

523
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: of the world's best young pianists.

524
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: At nine years old.

525
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: She was the first black woman that was supposed to

526
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: be Miss North Carolina at a time when they couldn't

527
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: let a black person be. She had gotten whatever it's

528
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: misrunner up, the first runner. They couldn't even let her

529
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: be first runner up because if Miss North Carolina fell out.

530
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: She couldn't go to all the places.

531
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: In this state.

532
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: That yeah, yeah, so her father was an educator.

533
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: They had one of the top This was back in segregation,

534
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: before integration. They had one of the top schools in

535
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: North Carolina, the top debating team. One of the best

536
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: schools in North Carolina was an all black school from Newton,

537
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina.

538
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: Wow.

539
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's such a great answer, is one

540
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: that I could really relate to. Having a great wife

541
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with whether vacand store. And

542
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: it's always nice when she's cute, but it's not nice

543
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: when she's cute and not great.

544
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: God a witness sowere.

545
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: So a word up to the fellows. A lot of

546
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: times you have more emphasis on cute than great. But

547
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: what makes the relationships sustainable is great rather than cute.

548
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: And I think that one of the problems that we

549
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: have with longevity is that it is expensive to be

550
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: a great woman in a world where women spending billions

551
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: of dollars looking cute. It is more expensive to be

552
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: a great woman because a great woman absorbs a lot

553
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: of shock, a lot of a lot of pain. A

554
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: great woman bites her tongue at times that other women

555
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: speak their mind. It is expensive to be a great

556
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: woman to know when to speak and when to shut

557
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: up and go the other way. A lot of women

558
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: who started clapping when he said that you had to

559
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 3: really do inventory. Is he talking about you? Because because

560
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: I really do think a lot of the credit goes

561
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: to holding things together. It's unfair, it's probably not right,

562
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: but the contill is true to having a great woman.

563
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 3: We come up sometimes to get the bow, but really

564
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: the woman is the glue. At least at my house.

565
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: Serena is the glue. She is the glue and the

566
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: staples and the safety pins and the stitches.

567
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: And everything else.

568
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't my wife. My wife is consistent.

569
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: Uh huh, yes, consistent, consistent. She made breakfast every morning.

570
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

571
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: For the children, they had a little Bible study every morning.

572
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: She drove them to school every morning.

573
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: So she when I was out running making the movies

574
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: and you know, killing the line and bringing the meat

575
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 5: home a compet yeah, combat you know, but she was

576
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: doing that.

577
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: It might be our generation, but I can say that

578
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: I could take your statement and put it right on

579
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 3: Serena having prayer with the kids every morning, making sure

580
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 3: everybody got something to need, and still doing her day,

581
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: and still doing her thing, and still building her business,

582
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: and still went back and got her degree, and still

583
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 3: supportive of me, and still got her hair done. You

584
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: have to be a bad woman to be a great woman,

585
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: multi talented. In fact, a great woman is a corporation

586
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: and one person, she is a corporation on herself. If

587
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 3: you are a great woman, you are a corporation. Whether

588
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: you start a business or not, you are a complete corporation.

589
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: Give yourselves a hand if you think you are a

590
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: great woman.

591
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: And let me let me say this to the to

592
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: the guys, for the guys out there. You gotta have

593
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: vision to see potential instead of well it ain't working

594
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: right now.

595
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: Let me go over here, right, let me go here,

596
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: Let me go over here. You know.

597
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: I helped my wife's pedigree, come on her pedigree.

598
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: You know, she.

599
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: She raised me up out the ghetto a little bit.

600
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: You know, I had one foot in the street, you know.

601
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: So it's a balance, the balance, tell.

602
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: The truth, shape the devil.

603
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: I was throwing rocks at the penitentiary, now.

604
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question.

605
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: The thing about it is, at different stages of life,

606
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 3: you raise each other, right, at different stages of life,

607
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: your parent, your partner, depending on what is going on

608
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: at that particular moment. And people have given up on

609
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: parenting their partner because it has become popular to replace

610
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: rather than to develop.

611
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: Chapter five, Get out of the way. How much of

612
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: who you are affects what you do? Let me say

613
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: it like that.

614
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't examine myself.

615
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: Really no, no, I don't you know.

616
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: I know where it got it from. I know what

617
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do with it, and that's good enough

618
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: for me.

619
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 7: I don't.

620
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't keep notes sort of, you know, talk to

621
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: myself and too much about I try to get out

622
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: of the way. I try to get out of the way.

623
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

624
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: Man man goes down to the ocean, okay, tries to

625
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: fit all the knowledge of the ocean into his little

626
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: brain instead of just jumping in the water and enjoying himself.

627
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: Faith is jumping in the water. Ego is if I

628
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: don't understand it, it doesn't exist. To think we can reduce.

629
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: Everything to our level of understanding is ego on steroid.

630
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: Our dare any of us I know what's best?

631
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: Oh? Really?

632
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: Okay? Good luck.

633
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: You know three times since we've been talking, you have

634
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: said get out of the way.

635
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

636
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: And if I had to entitle this, this, this talk,

637
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: this masterclass, I would have to call it get out

638
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 3: of the way. And and that is so simple and

639
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: yet so profound, and yet so difficult to do, because

640
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 3: often we worship at the shrine of our own point

641
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: of view.

642
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: Say that again, you worship at the shrine from our

643
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: own point of view?

644
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: Yes, wow, yeah, ain't gonna be in presidence of my

645
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: saying come on now and give me a bring. But really,

646
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: I do think that that is actually that is idolatry

647
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: at its highest form, is to think that the way

648
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: that you see it is the way that it is.

649
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: What I try to do with my life is to

650
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: understand your perspective. While other people talk about what you do.

651
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: I always wonder why I always want to empathize, even

652
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: with my enemy, to make sure that my enemy is

653
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: not a friend in disguise or or somebody who has

654
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: been hurt in such a way that they react in

655
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 3: a way that, yes, wounded me, but not intentionally. I

656
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: try not to smack a patient.

657
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Pastor A. R.

658
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: Bernard talks about that when people come to him or

659
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: come at him or at anyone with anger.

660
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, first thing you ask is.

661
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: Who hurt you?

662
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's usually where he's brilliant.

663
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's brilliant. Who hurts you?

664
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: That is not generally the first thing we ask when

665
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: we are offended, but it might be a good takeaway

666
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: to take with you from this meeting instead of deciding

667
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: I don't deal with her, I don't like him, I

668
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: can't stand them. They're eager, they're stupid, they're hateful, they're demand.

669
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: Maybe the first question to ask is who hurt you?

670
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: Because I think it's easier to love things you understand,

671
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: and if you can begin to understand the other person's perspective,

672
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: it changes how you pray for them, it changes how

673
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: you handle them, and it most importantly leaves the door open.

674
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 3: The most amazing thing I'm appreacing you minute. The most

675
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 3: amazing thing about the prodigal Son story to me is

676
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Speaker 3: not the prodigal son I know what it is to

677
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: drift away. I also know what it is to be

678
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: the elder brother and stay and feel ignored. I stayed

679
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: in one ministry for seven years and only preached twice,

680
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: and my big job was clean the baptism post.

681
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: So I understand the older brother.

682
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: I understand the prodigal son because I have gone on

683
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: a few adventures in my life. I'll keep them to myself,

684
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: but I have. But the star of the text is

685
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Speaker 3: the father, because he left the door open for the

686
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: sun to come home. And I find very few people

687
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: in life leave the door open for change. Six passing

688
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: the baton you you have, in a lot of ways

689
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: left the door open for other people to come behind you,

690
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: for other people to experience change, for other people to

691
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: have careers. You talked about the level of training that

692
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: you have. I talked about the level of training, the

693
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: scholarships that you've given the other people that created massive careers.

694
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: His name escapes me right now, the guy who played in.

695
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 7: Black Panther that everybody yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting you mentioned.

696
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Speaker 5: That because I was about to tell a story about

697
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Speaker 5: No I was I was.

698
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I was on Broadway and.

699
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: They had a screening of black panther. So I told

700
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Speaker 2: Ryan Cooler, the director, that I was going to come.

701
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: So I snuck in because I didn't want to deal

702
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: with the red carpet. I'm low key person. I going

703
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: to take pictures and all that. So I went in

704
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: the back way and Ryan Coogler and Chad were there

705
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: talking and.

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Speaker 5: He's like, Oh, you're just the person I wanted to see,

707
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: and I said, yeah, I wanted to see you too,

708
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: because he owed me some money. But when I sat

709
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 5: in the audience, when I sat in the audience and

710
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: watched that film, I understood that the baton had been passed.

711
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 4: You know, I looked at them.

712
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 5: I said, boy, these young boys are gone. To the

713
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 5: tune of a billion dollars that move ended up making,

714
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 5: I said, they're gone.

715
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you run a relay race and you

717
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: hand the baton off, you don't stop. As soon as

718
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: you hand it off, you run behind the person. So

719
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: I handed it off and I'm running behind him. But

720
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: I know I'm not gonna make it all the way

721
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Speaker 2: around the track.

722
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Now, none of us knew that. Who that's good that

723
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: Chad wasn't good.

724
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: Right there?

725
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: That's good right there, that's good.

726
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: Right there.

727
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: That's good, right there.

728
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: Oh that's good man. I'm ready to go over here

729
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 4: twenty dollars or dollars of the day.

730
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: But I had to.

731
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: I had to.

732
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Speaker 5: When I watched the movie, I had to shed a tear.

733
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Speaker 5: I mean I sat there and I shed a tear.

734
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, these young boys are gone. Yeah, you know,

735
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: not make anything out of myself. But Sidney took it

736
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Speaker 5: a certain distance. I took at a certain distance.

737
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Speaker 1: And now they're gone.

738
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gone.

739
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: And I think and my son's one of them.

740
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

741
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the greatest feeling in the world when you

742
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: and my daughter. Remember I said, so, Olivia Washington, just

743
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: remember I said so.

744
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

745
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: It's just too to be at this stage now and

746
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: not be jealous, to be at the stage and not

747
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 3: being this to be at the stage and be glad

748
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: to see younger men and women coming up and grabbing

749
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: the baton while you are yet running. You are not

750
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: angry or jealous or competing with them. You're kind of

751
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: running to make sure they're okay. Go on, God God,

752
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 3: I enjoy coaching Who's next more than being who's next?

753
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 4: You too?

754
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: You do me too?

755
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 4: That stage I find is.

756
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: Not always prevalent in our generation, because some in our

757
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: generation are still wrestling with who am I outside of

758
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: what I do? And if I am not this, then

759
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't see a role, but I see a clear path.

760
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: I'm happy to be Timothy's Paul. I'm happy to be

761
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: ruthe SNAILI. I'm happy to be elicious Elijah, because I

762
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: know what it is to be young and run and

763
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: have no one to talk to, and have no safe

764
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: place to lay your head, and have nobody to pull

765
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: me over into the corner and say, don't slap.

766
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: Nobody on stage, did you see them? You need somebody.

767
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: And you're not really a father until you care enough

768
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 3: to chew me out, And you're not really a son

769
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: until you can be chewed out and still come back

770
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: to my arms and understand. Father love doesn't sound like

771
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: mama love. And we have a generation of people who

772
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: have been raised to the tune of a mama love,

773
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: and they don't. Anytime you see something hearts, they see

774
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: you as an enemy and react and fight you rather

775
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 3: than I understand. It takes energy to care, It takes

776
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: energy to argue, It takes energy to confront. You have

777
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: sat in your seat at the Oscars and let that

778
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: go down. But you got out of your seat.

779
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: No, I couldn't have sat in my seat the way

780
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: I could have sat in my.

781
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: Seat, No way you considered your seat. Tell me why.

782
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: That's just not who I am.

783
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: It's not who you are. That's exactly my point. That

784
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: you just prove my point. That's not who I am.

785
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: You understand who you are, and you're comfortable enough in

786
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: your own skin that you're concerned when another rate, when

787
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: another runner trips. That's exactly my point. First of all,

788
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: it's good to see you.

789
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: Good to be seen by you. Friend of mine used

790
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: to say that.

791
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 5: I used to love that anytime somebody would say good

792
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: to see you, So good to be seen by you.

793
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is good. It's good to see you after

794
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: the Oscars, after all the stuff you went through, after

795
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: every thing you're handled, to jump on the plane to

796
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: flo out here on the Red Eye with no sleep

797
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: and come up on the stage to talk to a

798
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: group of people that you don't need and you didn't

799
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: have to. It's absolutely stellar. I want to thank you.

800
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: This is the this is the this is the I

801
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 2: don't know if I said it up when I was

802
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: up here. Man gives the award, God gives the reward.

803
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the reward for me.

804
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 5: Really, you know, well, awards are good, but this is better.

805
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: This is this is this is food for me.

806
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: Good. It's food for us? Is it not food for us?

807
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 3: Denzel's prayer. I hope it doesn't put you on the spot. Really,

808
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna put you on the spot. And I

809
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: only ask you to do this because you do it

810
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: every morning for your cast and your crew. I am

811
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: not gonna ask you.

812
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: To That's bow our heads. That's bow our heads. Dear

813
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: Father in heaven, we thank you.

814
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: We know that to whom much is given, much is expected,

815
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 2: much is required, and we know that you require from

816
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: each and every one of us our undivided love for you.

817
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 2: You are our beacon of light.

818
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: In this darkness.

819
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: And we say thank you and thank you and thank

820
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: you and thank you and thank you not just for

821
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: what you've done, but what you are going to do

822
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: what we can't see. Thank you for guiding our steps,

823
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: thank you for protecting us when we're getting here and

824
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: when we leave here today, just thank you for all

825
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: that you've done.

826
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: And I pray and I know that out there.

827
00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 2: In this audience. I just feel the people in this audience. Lord,

828
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: I feel the Lord, I feel the Lord. Hallelujah, Hallelujahlujah.

829
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel them, Lord, and I know that it's I

830
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: know you want to touch them all.

831
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: I pray that something we set up here touches them

832
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: and and and makes their relationship with you stronger, better, tighter, Yes, Lord,

833
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: more loving these things we ask in your Son's name,

834
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: and we pray, and we know, we know, we know,

835
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Speaker 2: and we thank you.

836
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: Amen. Amen, you just.

837
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 3: Got prayed for by the word and only.

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Speaker 4: Xabington. Well, thank you.

839
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Speaker 1: Pray My pleasure, my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Hey everybody, I want to take this time to thank

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00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: you for watching the Next Chapter podcasts. If this conversation

842
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: inspired you, helped you reflect on an idea, or spark

843
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,960
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844
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845
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