WEBVTT - Make Or Break Sophomores

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from my Heart Radio,

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<v Speaker 1>your weekly source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation,

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's your host. It's another addition of Fantasy Football Weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Paul Charch and co host after an extended absence,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Harrison, Welcome back to the show. You won't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what it was. Wasn't that long. It's been like three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>so it feels like it's been longer than June when

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<v Speaker 1>I was off traveling around the world, allivanting, allivantin Rather,

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<v Speaker 1>we're toiling and fantasy football advice to the masses by

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. Northern Wisconsin. Yeah, I will. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>dialing back time. It really is. I went to this

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<v Speaker 1>bar in Wisconsin, an Eagle River. It's called Tommy's Bar.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very rarely open, but when the open signs on,

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<v Speaker 1>you go in. Because we had my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>had six eight drinks between the two of us, eight

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<v Speaker 1>bucks six. It's like, what, all right, that's fantastic. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that the focus of today's show is make or

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<v Speaker 1>break second year players sophomores who have not yet proven

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<v Speaker 1>themselves to be fantasy starters. So first, why we're choosing

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<v Speaker 1>the second year players just because I think by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of your two you you pretty much know some

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<v Speaker 1>players break out in your three and even less rarely

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<v Speaker 1>year four. But you know usually by two years in

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of no, yeah, and we're going make as

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<v Speaker 1>in there they've made it breaking, they're broken, they're breaking bad,

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<v Speaker 1>breaking bad. Yeah, there we go, so were But we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at these guys from a sophomore perspective, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty and keeper leagues, looking at them going is their

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<v Speaker 1>value about to go up? Or is it about to

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<v Speaker 1>bottom out? And I think the dynasty empire angle here

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<v Speaker 1>on on on this whole conversation is really really valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this second year players that we're going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they guys who want to try to acquire now

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<v Speaker 1>before they have their make season, our guys who want

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<v Speaker 1>to divest from before they have their break season. Um

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<v Speaker 1>makes a ton of sense. Now, the kinds of guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are not going to talk about our sophomores like

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones, Patriots quarterback, because we know we already know

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<v Speaker 1>he we already know what he's all about. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think we now know that mac Jones is a

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<v Speaker 1>run of the mill starting NFL quarterback who's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to have great fantasy upside. I agree, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>know too much about him. But the other guys were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talking about a lot of times who don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>And by make or break we mean from a fantasy perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>not like, are you going to go to the Pro Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>You know Teddy Bridgewater went to the Pro Bowl. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about, God,

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to be fantasy relevant? Mac Jones could

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<v Speaker 1>end up in a Pro Bowl? Too? Like four guys

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<v Speaker 1>are like, I don't bother showing that the Pro Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Where was it last year? Even did they have one?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. It's not it's so not important,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so not important. I think it was in it was. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to do quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally we would do tight ends here, but the only two,

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<v Speaker 1>the only two tight ends that anybody had any faith

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<v Speaker 1>in last year. Pitts and Friar both are obvious makes.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already hit their's and every nobody else thought anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else was going to do anything out of that draft class.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's a quarterback or a tight

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<v Speaker 1>end to talk about here. Let's start at the quarterback position, Matt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll start with Trevor Lawrence, good old sunshine, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the make year for for Trevor Lawrence. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It couldn't have gone worse last year. Uh, thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards, only twelve touchdowns versus seventeen picks. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, he had three touchdown passes in Week one

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<v Speaker 1>against Houston. For the final sixteen, he had the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of games in which he threw touchdown as games

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<v Speaker 1>where he did not throw a touchdown. Touchdown, not a touchdown. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to you know, I'm trying to get that

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<v Speaker 1>to catch on, like the Ohio State University, which they

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<v Speaker 1>trademark exactly, they were trademarked v So he had and

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have got a worse read for what was

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<v Speaker 1>coming in week one that what Trevor Lawrence gave you,

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<v Speaker 1>because at that point you're like a game on Trevor Lawrence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely got nine touchdowns the rest of the way. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he only supported one yard game for a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and why it all went wrong was basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pin it all on Urban Meyer. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster. He was a distraction the entire year until

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<v Speaker 1>they fired him the end of November. They lost Travis e.

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<v Speaker 1>T N before the season began. With Kwan Treadwell might

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<v Speaker 1>have been his best wide receiver over the final month

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. The old line was a mess. Outside

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<v Speaker 1>of beating Buffalo randomly in the middle of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>it was about a bad of a year as you

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<v Speaker 1>could for the Jaguars. Now, why will it be a

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<v Speaker 1>make year this year? Well, Doug Peterson, he's now the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. Jim Bob Cooter, who's my favorite name in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, is now the offensive coordinating a minute, What

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<v Speaker 1>better than Harry Colin? Yeah, Jim Bob Cooter? Yes, definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>both lines. Can both guys have lines? Connection? There we go,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean and and Jim Bob Cooter. You gotta say Cooter?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say Cootter? Do you say Bob Cooter? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you what? Do you call? J B? Cooter?

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<v Speaker 1>J B Cooter? As to his friends like me, j

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<v Speaker 1>he ran a decent offense in Detroit for a while

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<v Speaker 1>with Stafford there um, they had some key auditions Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk at wide receiver. He actually broke the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>market thanks Christian Kirk's Jones has added there for some depth.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Arnold is back in Evan Engram make up the

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<v Speaker 1>tight end corps now, so they have some fantasy upside.

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<v Speaker 1>They added Brandon Schurff as a new right guard, which

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<v Speaker 1>should improve that old line quite a bit just just

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<v Speaker 1>with him there. And Lawrence passed over six hundred times

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<v Speaker 1>last year he was in He was in the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten for passing attempts, So I gotta think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just going to get better this year. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>most clear cut number one quarterback to come out of

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<v Speaker 1>the draft since Andrew Luck. And we shouldn't forget that

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<v Speaker 1>the deck was just so stacked against him last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The stability and the weapons that were added to the

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<v Speaker 1>offense should be enough for him to be a very

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<v Speaker 1>serviceable super flex quarterback this year. Yeah, this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's kind of a mid level QB two this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's got better running ability than we saw

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<v Speaker 1>last year as well, And my hope is that He'll

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<v Speaker 1>get some designed runs um extended pockets that in which

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<v Speaker 1>he touchdown. It's not too much trouble Trevor Lawrence. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you on the on the make side of Trevor Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't have to agree on all these. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we may not agree with some of these.

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<v Speaker 1>We might not. The next quarterback make or break sophomore

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is the Jets Zack Wilson, the number two pick

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft, the number two pick in the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've got him as a make. It looked bad

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<v Speaker 1>for Wilson for much of the year last year, typical

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<v Speaker 1>rookie struggles at the beginning of the year. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>had a knee injury that knocked him out for over

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<v Speaker 1>a month. But everything changed right around Thanksgiving. Prior to that,

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<v Speaker 1>he had posted just two games with double digit Fantasy points.

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<v Speaker 1>After Thanksgiving, every game was double digit Fantasy points for

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Wilson. The play clearly got better. It doesn't always

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<v Speaker 1>showed in the box scores, though, so I'm no Warren.

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<v Speaker 1>You if you just like go to the Zach Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>box score and pull it up, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see like this epic change in box. You're not overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 1>by yards and three touchdowns, and no you don't. There

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<v Speaker 1>was very little that, but I test you look better.

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<v Speaker 1>PFF grades got at least a little bit better, and

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<v Speaker 1>he started connecting on deep balls. In his first five

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<v Speaker 1>full games when he's really struggling, he had almost two

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<v Speaker 1>picks per game. But during that second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>season again and Thanksgiving forward, when he came back from

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<v Speaker 1>the injury, he cut it down from two picks a

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<v Speaker 1>game to zero point three picks per game and just

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions in the final seven games. Massive improvement in

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<v Speaker 1>the interceptions. Wilson's deep ball was very promising, um as

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<v Speaker 1>was the downfield connection with Elijah Moore, who just went

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<v Speaker 1>on a rampage after Wilson came back. He averaged six catches,

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<v Speaker 1>seventies seven yards and one touchdown until he bowed out

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<v Speaker 1>with injury in December. So there was a really nice

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<v Speaker 1>budding connection with Elijah more who many people are very

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<v Speaker 1>high on now. Also, Zack Wilson gained first rounder Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson in the draft. He gained second rounder Bruce Hall

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. And where does it sounds the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>offensive personnel and totality is actually pretty good at this Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks pretty great. I mean, you know, in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to Elijah More we know is good. Garrett Wilson should

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<v Speaker 1>be good, Breece Hallo should be good. You've also got

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Davis, Braxon Barrios there and what should be an

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<v Speaker 1>improved Al Davis is a serviceable number receiver and he

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<v Speaker 1>might be the wide receiver one on that team. Still

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<v Speaker 1>just in target share, but he's gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Accuracy was a huge problem for Wilson last year, the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the league accuracy completion rates. But it's here's

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<v Speaker 1>why it should get better for Wilson. The stuff he

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<v Speaker 1>missed was the short stuff where he's where he had

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<v Speaker 1>the big delta between himself and the other quarterbacks were

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<v Speaker 1>behind the line of scrimmage and less than ten yard passes.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make you worried about Yips? No, not yet. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not there yet. I'm not calling him

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<v Speaker 1>to be at this point, So roll that together. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons for optim isn't on Wilson the

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<v Speaker 1>way he finished last year. The talent around him should

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<v Speaker 1>get better in year number two. I've got to make

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<v Speaker 1>on Zach Wilson. How do you have a make or

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<v Speaker 1>a break on Zach Wilson. I agree with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's going to have a much improved year.

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<v Speaker 1>Make let's go to San Francisco quarterback Tray Lance. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a make or break on him? We might

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<v Speaker 1>to diverge here. I'm usually a pessimist on running quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll keep that trend going and say that this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the break year for Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>As of this recording of the podcast, Jimmy Garoppolo is

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<v Speaker 1>still on the team. The Niners could cut him for

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<v Speaker 1>almost no dead cap. They could solve a lot of issues,

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<v Speaker 1>They could sign Debo long term. They could just cut

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo. But they haven't. Well, they'll trade him. They

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<v Speaker 1>won't cut him. I don't think that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>trade him. There's really not that many partners left out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Baker Mayfield was just Delta Carolina, so they're off the board.

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<v Speaker 1>But why they won't cut him, I think is because

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<v Speaker 1>you just wait for some team that thinks it's have

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<v Speaker 1>a going enough a good season and could have their

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback get hurt, and now you've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>value in Jimmy Garoppolo. Right now, there is only one

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<v Speaker 1>trade partner of Seattle and they're in division and they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going that. Maybe maybe the Saints, but probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they're in division, you're right, so that's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. Although if they really don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Garoppolo, that could be just sabotaged. Well, what if

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<v Speaker 1>they really don't believe in Tray Lance? That's the other thing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy g is still on the roster. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>sneaking suspicion that the forty Niners are not quite ready

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<v Speaker 1>to hand the full reins full time to Tray Lance.

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<v Speaker 1>With a shredded shoulder last year, they kept Jimmy is

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<v Speaker 1>a little strong. He had it hanging from a tendon.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just dangling there. They kept him in throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and he led them to a conference championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>And head coaches are creatures of habit. They go at

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that got them there. Shanahan and Garoppolo, the

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<v Speaker 1>long history together. And on Lance, we saw the rushing

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<v Speaker 1>ability on display and his three starts last season, but

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<v Speaker 1>the passing was if he at best. All the reports

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<v Speaker 1>out of the off season program is Lance is ready,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Rice, and Steve Young, they're all believers. They think

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<v Speaker 1>he's the next guy. But you never hear bad reports

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<v Speaker 1>in June or July. And who cares what former players

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't really in camp think about this. Uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>Niners admittedly don't rely heavily on quarterback production to get

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<v Speaker 1>things done in their offense. Over the last five years,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly with Garoppolo, they finished in the bottom half the

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<v Speaker 1>league in QB Fantasy points in four out of five years.

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<v Speaker 1>The Niners deploy a high efficiency passing game, though, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy G's that's because of what Jimmy G brought to

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<v Speaker 1>the table. They were catering that offense to his strengths. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a sixty percent passer over the last three years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very good. Uh. And they let their playmakers make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>They let Devo move downfield. Now, Lance was only fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent on his passes last year. Fifty seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>is not good. And if Shanahan sees it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're looking at a big downtick eleven percent downtick,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes them one dimensional, That makes them a running team.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes people key off on where's deebo in the backfield?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Trey Lance going? We can we can cover these

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<v Speaker 1>guys because we don't believe in his arm. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>completely wrong on running quarterbacks before. I hope I'm wrong again,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not drafting Trey Lance at all this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna be wrong. I think running the

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<v Speaker 1>running numbers are going to keep him fantasy relevant even

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<v Speaker 1>when his arm is developing and learning earning to use

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<v Speaker 1>the gigantic arm that he's got. Right, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>upside is Hurts this year. Jalen Hurts was quarterback six

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<v Speaker 1>in fantasy last year. You know that's we'll take that upside.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had you didn't hear it to you're on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation last week. Last week we took we detailed Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Lances a we're doing uh all or nothing players, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that sort of sentiment, and he is. He's Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Lance is an all or nothing guy. If things go wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the starting quarterback. If things go right, he's

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<v Speaker 1>running for ninety yards a game, and he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>then he chips in two passing yards and one or

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<v Speaker 1>two passing touchdowns and and you've got a top five quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>so things can go very right or wrong for him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on break. I'm on the make side of Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Land and I'm on the break side. Let's do one

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<v Speaker 1>more quarterback make or break with Bears quarterback Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 1>I am firmly in the break. Let me make my

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<v Speaker 1>case for you. Man. There's a center it out there

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<v Speaker 1>that fields automatically get better under Matt Eberflus and offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator Luke Getsy because Nag he's gone. But is that deserved?

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<v Speaker 1>Eberflus is a defensive coordinator issue, so I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>a big effect here. And one of Getsy's NFL experience

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<v Speaker 1>is with Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback. No problem, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no comparison between these two Aaron Rodgers and Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Fields and Fields passing last year was straight up dreadful.

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<v Speaker 1>Second lowest completion percentage next next Gen stats marked him

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<v Speaker 1>with the second worst expected completion percentage, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>particularly bad when pressured, with a p F grade dropping

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<v Speaker 1>in half from pressured plays to clean pocket place. It's

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<v Speaker 1>totally unable to handle pressure. Under pressure, he through just

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<v Speaker 1>two touchdowns all of last year For Justin Fields. Intangibly

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Fields never looked comfortable in the pocket, and frustratingly,

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<v Speaker 1>Naggie didn't give him enough looks outside the pocket. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of design to plays for Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out of the plot a pocket, let

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<v Speaker 1>him run or pass on the run. He was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to do that very very little last year. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>comes together this year, and I wish I could give

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<v Speaker 1>you reasons to believe in Fields and to believe he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get better. But Matt, the offensive line doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna be any better. Almost no changes Byron Pringles,

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<v Speaker 1>the best receiver of the team brought in and their

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<v Speaker 1>third round wide receiver draft pick Vellis Jones is widely

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as one of the worst reaches in the entire draft. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a kick returner, he's a special teamer. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you draft Fields, it's really with the hope that Eberflus

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<v Speaker 1>and gets he run him and run him a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like Lamar Jackson level of consistency as a runner. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be like twenty carries a game kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing, because it feels like these Bears are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to win games thirteen to seven with the

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<v Speaker 1>defense that shed like everybody you know by the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's kind of a bizarre team. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like the Bears could be bottoming out here. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears are bottoming out and I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of reasons. So you're with me. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like on Justin Fields is a break player I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to add in one more quarterback as an

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<v Speaker 1>able mension here. How about Davis Mills. Because of the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks we mentioned before this, Mills had the most touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>with sixteen played in thirteen games last year, had four

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<v Speaker 1>games five multiple touchdown games. Only Jeff Driskell and Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Allen pushing him. That's nothing. He's a starter. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very bullish on Mills because if he breaks, he's out

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<v Speaker 1>of a job. The Texans are going to draft his

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<v Speaker 1>replacement next year if he doesn't look awesome this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of think that he's got a shot

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<v Speaker 1>here I showed I guess I tipped my hand and

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about Davis Mills by not including him

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<v Speaker 1>in this list, because I already think he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>proven himself to be better than all the other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about he's being drafted after all of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys. I think it's a mistake. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on this show, you, Me, Brian and Scott, all

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<v Speaker 1>of us kind of like Davids Mills more than the

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<v Speaker 1>average person does out. So I you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I think Davis. I thought Davis Mills played admirably when

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<v Speaker 1>given the opportunity to do so. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a than anti Houston bias amongst a lot of fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>players that view the whole view it as a dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 1>landing place for anybody. Well, they got to score points

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<v Speaker 1>because their defense is gonna be very good and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be behind. They're gonna be chucking at Yolo style

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<v Speaker 1>the whole season. They did last year too, And David S.

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<v Speaker 1>Mills you still had. You can only start from time

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<v Speaker 1>to time, but probably gets better year to remember, I

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<v Speaker 1>think only thirteen starts in college and so and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteen numbers in my head because you had because

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<v Speaker 1>you played you mentioned he played in didn't start thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>last year, by the way, had to come in as

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<v Speaker 1>a replacement for Tyrod Taylor a few times. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. When we come back, make or break running

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<v Speaker 1>backs and wide receivers. When we returned to Fantasy Football Weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. This is a make or

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<v Speaker 1>Breaks sophomore edition of Fantasy Football Weekly. All Charging and

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Harrison with you. You can check out Matt Matt's

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<v Speaker 1>work at Shock Fantasy dot com. You've got your Shock

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<v Speaker 1>Fantasy hat. I'm loading up a whole bunch of cheat

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<v Speaker 1>sheets this weekend to we're getting going, uh finally, Draft season.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Let's go to the running back position,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to start with Philadelphia running back Kenneth Gainwell.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe this is a make or break season

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<v Speaker 1>for him? I kind of forgot about Kenny Gainwell, like admittedly,

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<v Speaker 1>like just off my radar um. But so this was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun because I got to dig back into him.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the sake of the argument, I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>it a make year for Kenny Gainwell, but not in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he suddenly becomes a always starting running

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<v Speaker 1>back in fantasy. I think he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>serviceable flex play here and there. Um, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things working against him, but there were glimmers of hope.

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<v Speaker 1>In his rookie year. First, he scored six more touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>than Miles Sanders at zero. Five of those six were

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. That's a good thing. Um. Boston Scott

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<v Speaker 1>inexplicably was the inside the five runner for Philadelphia, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's not built for that, had seven touchdowns on

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<v Speaker 1>ten attempts. Miles Sanders had five rushing attempts inside the

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<v Speaker 1>five last year, with zero touched out and negative one

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<v Speaker 1>yard negative five yard average, never one, negative one. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Gamewell was only given two attempts inside the five, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did score on one, so that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Boston Scott is not built to be a

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<v Speaker 1>goal lineback. No, No, I just I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna keep using Boston Scott there, although he was

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<v Speaker 1>fairly effective in that role. He was, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Scott could be one of those cap casualties as

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<v Speaker 1>they come closer to camp, like maybe they don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran guy like that. Who knows. But the second

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I really liked about Gainwell, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>most utilized running back in the passing game for Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and that's kind of where you think Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Scott would kind of flex into there. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>Gainwell more targets and receptions than Sanders, who was on

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<v Speaker 1>the field a lot more more targets and receptions than Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>whose primary role should be the pass catching back. So

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<v Speaker 1>give me the most efficient running back in the passing game,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who could feasibly steal the goal line role

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<v Speaker 1>from Boston Scott. To me, that's a flexworthy runner. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is is we need consistency and touches. He

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<v Speaker 1>needs ten to fifteen touches a game to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last six games the last season, seventeen touches

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<v Speaker 1>zero one zero, sixteen six. That's wild usage. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy. So I don't know if that's a

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<v Speaker 1>coaching philosophy. There could have been injury injuries to to

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Sanders here and there. But Kenneth Gainwell is an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting guy. He looked good when he had the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to get the touches. So I'll say make Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>I like, do you challenge yourself to make a make

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<v Speaker 1>out of that? But I don't. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>I can go there. Um, I'm I'm gonna go with

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<v Speaker 1>Travis at the end as our next runner, Jacksonville running back,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to make on him. It feels obvious now,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just talk it through and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to spend a lot of time, and it's gonna think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's everybody's interested in him. But I've got a real

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<v Speaker 1>angle near the end of this that you'll want to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to. That's very important. I think, UM, as you've

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<v Speaker 1>detailed on previous shows, James Robinson's return is very much

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<v Speaker 1>in doubt and way more than people are talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Akers look terrible when he returned from his achilles injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson suffered this injury late December. UM no running back

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<v Speaker 1>has ever returned from an achilles injury to have a

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful running back career, So there's a lot of reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to be very nervous about James Robinson, and especially early

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<v Speaker 1>in the season. Et Tiens. Liz frank injury happened mid

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<v Speaker 1>August last year, so by week one he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>over one year removed from it, so that foot should

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<v Speaker 1>really be okay. Liz Frank's um injuries have had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of variation and outcome of how that's affected players,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gotten better over the past few years. Um As,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've handled the break better medically than we

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<v Speaker 1>used to. Doug Peterson can manufactures throws to his backs,

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<v Speaker 1>and in some cases throughout Doug Peterson's career, he's done

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<v Speaker 1>that in his backs combined for eighty five catches and

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred yards. But I'll note that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, a lot of other seasons, Doug Peterson's backs

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done that. But they also it's also really been

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<v Speaker 1>buying large when Miles Sanders was healthy, and when he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't healthy, and when he was on roster and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't um And Etienne was a phenomenal pass catcher in

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<v Speaker 1>college at Clemson, So you know, the hope is that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen here too. I think I think at

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<v Speaker 1>worst at ten should be a big PPR force. But

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<v Speaker 1>Etian in college was never work horse back. He I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe he's going to be a workhorse back in

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<v Speaker 1>this offense either, but they will use him through the

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<v Speaker 1>air a lot, I think. I see. Tell me if

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's a common box score for Ettian ten

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<v Speaker 1>rushes for let's say four and a half yards, forty

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<v Speaker 1>five yards um, five receptions for another forty five yards,

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<v Speaker 1>and a coin flips chance that a touchdown one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another in most games. Sound about right, sounds fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Etian was never a goal line guy, has never been

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<v Speaker 1>a big goal line guy, and he's not a big

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<v Speaker 1>bodied guy. I want to put Snoop Connor on your radar,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you believe me that James Robinson's return is

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<v Speaker 1>very much in doubt and his his abilities are very

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<v Speaker 1>much in doubt, Snoop Robinson was a fifth rounder that

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<v Speaker 1>they took, Snoop Connor. Snoop Connor, thank you who they took.

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<v Speaker 1>And he he is a bona fide goal line guy.

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<v Speaker 1>In college, he was used express sleep as a goal

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<v Speaker 1>line guy. Wasn't a workhorse guy, but he got tons

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<v Speaker 1>of He got tons of hard yards um. He was

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<v Speaker 1>very good. He a shocking number of like ten twelve

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen yard chunk plays. Doesn't have the long speed to

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<v Speaker 1>give you like you know, rip off sixty yards, but

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<v Speaker 1>chunk gains and workhorse chunk gains and goal line ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Connor thunder and lightning. Here. If you want a deep,

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<v Speaker 1>deep sleeper and a guy that could lead the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>and rushing touchdowns. Snoop Connor anyway, I gotta make on

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Sten Yeah, I'm with you. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver position beginning with Giants sophomore Darius Tony. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems easy ish, but I'm gonna call it a break

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<v Speaker 1>for Cadarius Tony. He was really the wrong draft pick

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<v Speaker 1>last year for Dave Gettleman, who has now gone. The

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<v Speaker 1>new regime has absolutely no ties to Tony. They were

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<v Speaker 1>a rumored to already be shopping him near the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they still have Kenny Golladay under a massive contract,

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<v Speaker 1>Sterling Shepherd still there. They drafted another slot guy, wan

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<v Speaker 1>Dale Robinson in the second round, basically to replace Cadarius Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>If you google Caldarius Tony, the first thing that pops

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<v Speaker 1>up is where is Caldarius Tony? Now? Where is he

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Where is he? Where in the world is Tony? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>He had minor offseason knee surgery. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>questions about his character. Is a big dedication to the game. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Jones in his final year in New Jersey. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like this offense is just starting a two to

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<v Speaker 1>three year rebuild under new head coach Brian Dable. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna build a completely different offense than

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen under the previous regime. And the Giants wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers as a group with Daniel Jones, guess how many

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns they had as an entire group had one or zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Shepherd had like two. Tony might have scored one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go five. You got the number right, but

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<v Speaker 1>Tony didn't score. Okay, five touchdowns for the Giants wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers as a whole last yearly bad. I think Cadarius

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<v Speaker 1>Tony might be looking at being the fourth or fifth

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver in this and then Daniel Jones. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>offense gross. I don't like it at all. I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you on break on Tony. I wish you were different

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<v Speaker 1>because he does flash unbelievable. Stop. Yeah, he had that

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<v Speaker 1>one game last year he had ten catches and everybody like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked amazing, and then he's like, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to play football. Unbelievable. Um. I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>Giant's offense gets better, but I don't think the pivot

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<v Speaker 1>guy on that is gonna be Cadarius Tony. No, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be next year when they when they draft a new

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and they start over there. I hope, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>for jan Daniel jones sake. You're wrong, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna run Daniel Jones a lot more than people realize. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he doesn't fall down about downfield. If he

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<v Speaker 1>gets thirty yards down field, it's not bad. Um. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to our second wide receiver sophomore, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore receiver Rashad Bateman, who I have a make one.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite a disappointing rookie season, Ravens doubled down on Rashad Bateman.

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<v Speaker 1>Team didn't put a single draft pick into the position,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't add any free agents, and they lost Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Brown mark Uh. Bateman's biggest threat for targets is Devin DuVernay.

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<v Speaker 1>He barely counts those. Biggest threat for targets is probably

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. It's j K Dobbins and that receiver. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Bateman scored just once last year, and even his snap

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<v Speaker 1>count really spiked up in the final month of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>The production yards the catches didn't move with it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the best reason for optimism here in the four games

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<v Speaker 1>that Bateman played with eight or more targets which he

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<v Speaker 1>could get on a regular basis. This year eight Moore targets,

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<v Speaker 1>he averaged a rock solid seventy three yards. And it

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<v Speaker 1>comes together for a lot of receivers in year two.

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<v Speaker 1>Opportunity Trump's talent. We talked about all the time in

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy football. Opportunity is more important than talent, getting the

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<v Speaker 1>ball at the goal line, getting eight getting eight targets

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<v Speaker 1>a game. That's more important than being the next Barry Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>With the opportunity factor, though, are you just slightly nervous

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<v Speaker 1>that John Harbaugh's offense and Lamar Jackson's offense just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>favor wide receivers and and and it's been I mean,

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Marquis Brown had some splashes here and there, but wildly

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<v Speaker 1>and consistent and tough to start him on a weekly

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<v Speaker 1>basis over the last few years. And all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's all yours a good point. Let me define what

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<v Speaker 1>I think where I think Bateman ends up this year

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<v Speaker 1>around eighty catches, a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all right, you know, I think that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the best. I think that's a receiver yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's if he plays all year, assuming he plays

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<v Speaker 1>the full season as the number one receiver on his team,

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver on his team, I think that's where he

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<v Speaker 1>could end up. Well, they only scored ten touchdowns as

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver group last year, so that might be

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little aggressive. I think he's probably I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess he finishes kind of around Brandon Aiyuk Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd did last year sixty seventy catches, eight hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 1>five touchdowns. So you're on break or make? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a break right for you? I mean, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>still a make, but I think it's just a yeah. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on to Ron Dell Moore, Arizona wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Ron del Moore? Is he a make or break? He's

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<v Speaker 1>breaking for me? He's breaking out of Arizona hopefully. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had the stat in the show we

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<v Speaker 1>did you know last time I was on, which must

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<v Speaker 1>have been like three years ago, because yeah, because you've

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<v Speaker 1>been on vacation for three years. Um, Rondale Moore's average

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<v Speaker 1>depth of target one one yard your heart and the

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<v Speaker 1>next closest was four yards. Yeah, and plus that, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean in my mind and probably your mind. He's fifth

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<v Speaker 1>on the wide receiver depth chart in Arizona, behind DeAndre

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<v Speaker 1>Hopkins when he gets back from his suspension, Marquis Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Green, and Antoine Wesley. I think so because

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are well, you know I feel about Antoine, yes,

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but also ed In zach Ertz and Max Williams. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's eighth in the pecking order. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>be eighth in a pecking order. No, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that guy on my team. He's just a gadget guy

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in Cliff Kingsbury's offense, hence the depth of target. He's

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<v Speaker 1>too small to be a red zone threat. You're reliant

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<v Speaker 1>on more breaking a huge touchdown. He did one last year.

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<v Speaker 1>One touchdown he was in completely blown coverage against the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. He should not be on rosters in

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy this year. He's a hardcore break for me, hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>break all right, Um, I'm with you on the break

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<v Speaker 1>on Rondel Moore. Nico Collins is next sophomore wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>for Houston. Finished second on the team and receptions and

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<v Speaker 1>receiving ards last year, but it didn't amount to much

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<v Speaker 1>of anything. Texans used his big body on slants and

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the field routes other than Cooper Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very tricky part to get fantasy relevance

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<v Speaker 1>from in the middle of the field because usually you

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<v Speaker 1>get tackled quickly in the middle of the field, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get the big plays, you don't get the touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that part didn't help Nico Collins last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the starter for the team in six of

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<v Speaker 1>the final seven games, but it didn't turn into an

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<v Speaker 1>uptick and production for Nico Collins. What does starter even

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<v Speaker 1>mean anymore? It just means on the field of first

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<v Speaker 1>play that's important is more important. UM low catch rate

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<v Speaker 1>UH fifty four percent catch rate, but that was largely

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<v Speaker 1>the function of him being a rookie catching passes from

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. I think that gets better this year. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They drafted John um Mecchi, who's coming up at January

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<v Speaker 1>a c l. He won't be a factor for UH

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<v Speaker 1>until Halloween or later, and Nico Collins is gonna start.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if you believe like we do, as

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<v Speaker 1>we talked earlier about Davids S Mills, like David Mills,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to probably like his number two

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<v Speaker 1>receiver to get a little better Nico Collins. Big bodied

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<v Speaker 1>guys should be more of an enzo and target than

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<v Speaker 1>he was last year. And so I've got to I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a cautious make on Nico Collins. I still don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to get anywhere near the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>Brishade Bateman just had as the number one for the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can see Nico Collins finishing with seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yards five touchdowns, and he's he's somebody we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have I think as a as a fairly regular take

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<v Speaker 1>a chance on me wide receiver. Yeah, and Collins had

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of the snaps basically over the last half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Okay, so he was basically a starter. Yeah, yeah,

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