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Speaker 1: Welcome in the Wednesday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton show,

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Jury Watch

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Speaker 1: is officially underway. What I would say to all of

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Speaker 1: you is, you never know when the verdict is now

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Speaker 1: going to come. The charge has been given by the judge.

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Speaker 1: The jury now is in the deliberation phase of the

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Speaker 1: New York City case. We have told you for some

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Speaker 1: time that we think the best case scenario is a

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Speaker 1: hung jury. There was a big piece written about how

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Speaker 1: anyone on the jury who is willing to not vote

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Speaker 1: to convict will become I saw an analogy made. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you even get this analogy, Buck, but

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Speaker 1: you probably are familiar at least with the pop culture reference.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember Steve Bartman, the Chicago Cubs fan who

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Speaker 1: reached out and accidentally touched a foul ball. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: then went on to lose to the Marlins. And that

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Speaker 1: was before the Cubs had ever won a World Series,

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Speaker 1: and Bartman became just an absolute scapegoat for decades of

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Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs failures, and he couldn't even have a normal

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Speaker 1: life in the Chicago area anymore. He had to basically

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Speaker 1: go into hiding. I mean, it's crazy. He was just

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Speaker 1: a fan in these stands who touched a foul ball

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Speaker 1: that otherwise would have been potentially caught, and then the

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Speaker 1: Marlins go on to win the game, win the series.

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Speaker 1: So I saw an analogy already being made that if

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Speaker 1: there is one juror, or maybe multiple jurors that refuse

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Speaker 1: to convict, that they will immediately become New York City's

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Speaker 1: part man. That they will be they will be sought after,

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Speaker 1: they will be ridiculed, they will be attacked, they will

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Speaker 1: become persona non grada throughout the whole city. You pointed

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Speaker 1: this out as a New York City guy that inevitably

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Speaker 1: any juror who has the stones to actually apply the

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Speaker 1: law here and say there should be a not guilty

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Speaker 1: verdict and refuses to relent that that would be something

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Speaker 1: that might happen to them, so that we will see, now,

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Speaker 1: is there a juror who will actually apply the law?

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Speaker 1: Is there a juror who was willing to stand up

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Speaker 1: to the rig job the kangaroo court that has been

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Speaker 1: in effect. That clock is now ticking and Trump just

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Speaker 1: came out of the courtroom and addressed the assembled media

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Speaker 1: and said a couple of different things. We've got cuts

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Speaker 1: for you. Here's the first. He says, Mother Teresa couldn't

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Speaker 1: beat these charges.

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Speaker 2: Cut one, I would.

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Speaker 3: Say, and listening to the charges from the judges, as

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Speaker 3: you know, very conflicted and corros because of the confliction,

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Speaker 3: very very correctly, Mother Teresa could not beat these judges.

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Speaker 2: These charges are rigged.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is rigged. The whole country's have met

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Speaker 3: between the borders and fake elections, and you have a

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Speaker 3: trial like this where the judge is so conflicted he

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Speaker 3: can't breathe. He's got to do his job.

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Speaker 2: And it's not for me that I can tell you.

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Speaker 3: It's a disgrace, and I mean that Mother Teresa could

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Speaker 3: not be those judges. But we'll see, we'll see how

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Speaker 3: we do.

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Speaker 4: I think he's trying to manage expectations here a bit

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Speaker 4: that does not sound like a guy who believes that

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Speaker 4: there will be justice here, at least with a not

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Speaker 4: guilty verdict, which should be the outcome, although it's almost

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Speaker 4: hard to say that because the outcome is actually or

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Speaker 4: should have been, that the judge threw it out. No, actually,

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Speaker 4: the outcome should have been that no prosecutor would ever

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Speaker 4: The whole thing is such an abuse, such a miscarriage

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Speaker 4: of justice. The fact that Trump has had to go

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Speaker 4: in an election year is election interference. They have already

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Speaker 4: interfered illicitly in this election just by bringing this prosecution.

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Speaker 4: And now we await an outcome here and all of

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Speaker 4: the legal analysts, it's funny, you're actually not seeing that

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Speaker 4: many left wing legal analysts play who are out there

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Speaker 4: saying that this is a great prosecution or this is

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Speaker 4: they're really commenting. They're almost doing play by play. And

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Speaker 4: this is what the Libs will do when they know

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Speaker 4: kind of just telling people what's going on. Meanwhile, on

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Speaker 4: here is opening this up so that you can have

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Speaker 4: what crime was committed, what the second crime that there's there,

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Speaker 4: They can you can have a fluctuating decision on what

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy. I've never heard that.

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Speaker 4: The judge is trying to give the widest possible justification

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Speaker 4: as I've said, I've I've predicted I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: change it now. I've predicted they're going to find him guilty,

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Speaker 4: although I think that will actually work the Trump's political benefit,

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Speaker 4: and I think a hung jury would work to Trump's

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Speaker 4: political benefit. But my concern here always has been if

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Speaker 4: the judge going to be able to keep the names

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Speaker 4: of the jury secret if this is a hung jury,

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Speaker 4: just mark my words, everyone, you will know the name

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Speaker 4: d be, high school baseball position, first name of his

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Speaker 4: first hurry. I mean, you will know everything from the

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Speaker 4: media within twenty four to forty eight hours, everything will

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Speaker 4: come out right away about this person, despite the judge's order,

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Speaker 4: because the media will do everything that they can to

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Speaker 4: out there. So just remember that I said that, and

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Speaker 4: the fact that we're even having to have this conversation, unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: is a failure. I mean, that's the part of this

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Speaker 4: that I find so depressing, Clay. It's a failure of

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Speaker 4: the justice system at this point, no matter what, and

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Speaker 4: the people there's such a shortsightedness in this from people

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Speaker 4: on the left who think that they're doing some sort

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Speaker 4: of a service here for democracy or however they justify

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Speaker 4: to themselves at night. They have set a precedent that

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Speaker 4: can never be undone which is not just bringing a

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Speaker 4: case again, holding and then bringing a case again state

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Speaker 4: presidential candidate, but bringing the flimsiest, most absurd, most rigged

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Speaker 4: case I've ever heard, thirty four felonies, Clay. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the fact that a prosecutor can look this courtroom in

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Speaker 4: say we're charging this guy with thirty four felonies is

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Speaker 4: is this is like Kafka esque. I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: Kessler's Darkness at noon. This is some kind of of

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Speaker 4: a horrifying chapter you can't get out of your head

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Speaker 4: from soul Zannetzen and the Gulag Archipelago, Like, what are

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Speaker 2: It's crazy?

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Speaker 1: And I would also point out that it's not benefiting

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Speaker 2: And they, I think scored.

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Speaker 1: A devastating own goal on themselves yesterday, after not deciding

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Speaker 1: to have public availability press conferences outside of the courtroom

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Speaker 1: on the day when the trial is finishing, they decided

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Speaker 1: to roll out Robert de Niro for one of the

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Speaker 1: most ridiculous press conferences I have seen in a very

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Speaker 1: long time. It directly connected the Biden Harris campaign to

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Speaker 1: this case. And Trump talked about de Niro just now

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Speaker 1: They made that calculated choice. Here is Trump responding to

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Speaker 3: Have a protest to Robert de Niro yesterday he says,

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Speaker 3: got maggadeer.

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Speaker 2: He got Maggot yesterday, got a big do seven.

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Speaker 1: That is you imagine this is so embarrassing to them,

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Speaker 1: whoever made the calculation to do that. We'll play some

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Speaker 1: I think it's emblematic of a form of desperation that's

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Speaker 1: setting in their game plan. I think it's fair for

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Speaker 1: It was, We're going to make Trump the nominee. They

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Speaker 1: got exactly what they wanted. They wanted to knock out DeSantis,

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Speaker 1: They knew it would rally Republicans and likely get Trump

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Speaker 1: likely to support Trump. And there are polls that just

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Speaker 1: Virginia in a dead tie Biden won. This is Roanoke College,

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Speaker 1: Right now it's an absolute dead heat, which is what

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign has been saying about their polling. And

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Speaker 4: Oh they're playing four D chess. Oh they're so. Yes

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Speaker 4: they're nefarious, Yes they're unprincipled. Yes they will cheat, but

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Speaker 4: actually just make huge blunders. Twenty sixteen, it was the

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Speaker 4: It was the Democrat media and party consensus that putting

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Speaker 4: It was an enormous miscalculation, right, and they learned a bit.

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Speaker 4: I think for twenty twenty this time around, the consensus

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Speaker 2: He tried to overturn.

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Speaker 4: That's how they say it. And I think that there's

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Speaker 4: the possibility. We don't know yet, we won't know until

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Speaker 4: the election day, but there is the possibility, and I

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Speaker 4: these Democrats Clay, that this might have been an enormous blunder,

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Speaker 4: an enormous miscalculation, meaning the law fair against Trump. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's great for the MSNBC audience, although I think they

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Speaker 4: may be disappointed when they see what ends up happening

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Speaker 4: in the polls too. But for people that are not

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Speaker 2: No, this is too much. This is wrong, and I would.

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Speaker 1: Argue it hasn't even been great for CNN and MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: It's not as if their ratings on television have skyrocketed

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Speaker 1: during this trial. I think so much of this information

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Speaker 4: All right, second hour Clay and Buck kicks off, and

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Speaker 4: This is the New York Times headline, the Alito's the

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that, Clay, jihad was just trying to

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Speaker 4: Here you had Alito in Alexandria, his wife Martha, and

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Speaker 4: What are they trying to do to Alito with these

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Speaker 1: Something is up here. Let me also mention that the

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Speaker 4: There is I think basically no chance that Alito, I

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Speaker 4: on any of this. He's not going to do it.

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Speaker 4: There's no basis for him doing it. So I don't

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Speaker 4: even think it's about trying to pressure him to get

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Speaker 4: that result Clay just because there's no chance. I think

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Speaker 4: it is trying to delegitimize the conservatives on the court

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Speaker 4: because they know there are decisions and specifically Alito. They

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Speaker 4: know there are decisions that are coming down that they

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Speaker 4: will not like as it pertains to Trump, and they're

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Speaker 4: holding out. I think hope that let's say Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: is is able to hold on in some way. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Democrats will pack the court. It is just a question

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Speaker 4: of when. In their minds, they're just waiting for when

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Speaker 4: they have the votes to do it and they decide

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Speaker 4: to pull the trigger, they decide that they're gonna use

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Speaker 4: the political will. So that's one component of it. I

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Speaker 4: think it's just the undermining because I mean, do you

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Speaker 4: think Alito based on any I think they could be

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Speaker 4: trying to pre So here's my concern. But do you

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Speaker 4: see what I'm saying? The pressure campaign has zero chance

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Speaker 4: of working.

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Speaker 2: That's not well. My concern that it could work on

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Speaker 2: John Roberts, and that because he's the Why aren't they

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Speaker 2: going after Roberts going after it?

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Speaker 1: Least he didn't he didn't do it. They're using Alito

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Speaker 1: to attack Roberts. I think he's wobbly again. I think

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Speaker 1: it's messy because of the past history. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense to me that they would sit on this

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Speaker 1: for three years. The Washington Post. Why didn't they write

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Speaker 1: this story three years ago?

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Speaker 4: They know there's the the immunity case is coming down soon, right,

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Speaker 4: we know that for sure. Yeah, I and you and

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Speaker 4: I see that the same way they're gonna say that Trump,

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Speaker 4: They're going to come back with some version of the specific,

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Speaker 4: some more specific version of what kind of immunity present

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Speaker 4: has and kick it to the lower courts. I think

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Speaker 4: we both see that as the likeliest outcome, and I

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Speaker 4: think that is what's going to happen here.

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Speaker 2: They want to tell their.

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Speaker 4: Audience New York Times, ap et cetera, all these different

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Speaker 4: outlets that they want to undermine the conservatives on the

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Speaker 4: Court as much as they can, because this is going

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Speaker 4: to go to the heart of the narrative which you

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Speaker 4: brought up before, of Trump is illegitimate and a threat

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Speaker 4: to a threat to democracy. And they're losing their grip

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Speaker 4: on the threat to democracy stuff via the law Fair campaign.

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Speaker 4: But they may try to say, just look they did

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Speaker 4: in two thousand and Bush b gore Trump, everything about

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Speaker 4: him is illegitimate, even the Supreme Court stuff that holds

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Speaker 4: up his rights or that that's illegitimate too. So to me,

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Speaker 4: it's it's smearing them all. Also, I think they just

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Speaker 4: hate Aledo. I think they hate him in a way

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Speaker 4: that's irrational to all of us because what he did

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Speaker 4: for the abortion decision, uh, in the you know, writing

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Speaker 4: the Dobbs decision.

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Speaker 2: I think that they can't help themselves.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've ever been around somebody who knows it's

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Speaker 4: not a good idea to attack somebody at a dinner

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Speaker 4: or something. But they just load them so much that

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Speaker 4: they kind of say they let things rip anyway, and

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh gosh, you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I've seen what I've seen that happen before, where it's

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Speaker 4: clearly unwise, but they'll do it anyway. I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: it's unwise for them, but it's definitely uncouth. It's definitely

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Speaker 4: showing their hand.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I just.

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Speaker 4: Think the mainstream Democrat legacy media hates Justice Alito, and

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Speaker 4: so they're willing to go down this rabbit hole on

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Speaker 4: the flag. I'm not saying that's the primary. I think

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Speaker 4: you're right on the pressure side of this as the primary.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that whenever you're talking about Alito

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Speaker 4: and Thomas, they just low, you know, they don't feel

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Speaker 4: the same way about Andy Coney Barrett or Gorsics. They

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Speaker 4: just don't they hate Alito and Thomas. They really Gorsuch.

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Speaker 1: Gets off with no criticism relatively speaking. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know why that is, but I ranked them as you

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Speaker 1: were talking. Clarence Thomas clearly the most hated. I think

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Speaker 1: Alita well, but Kavanaugh clearly has been ripped to the shreds.

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Speaker 1: I'd put him second, Alito third, Amy Coney Barrett fourth.

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Speaker 1: It feels like all four of those they've had people

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Speaker 1: going after over the years, Roberts and Gorsach don't get

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Speaker 1: as much of an attack. We'll take some of your

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Speaker 1: calls on this. And also I want to just talk

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Speaker 1: about the way that this is so dishonest to me

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Speaker 1: because the story is laundered through the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: which has really just become a propaganda arm of the

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party, and they want the Times to write it

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Speaker 1: so they then can then claim the Democrat Party can oh, look,

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Speaker 1: this independent arbiter effect is actually coming down on our side.

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Speaker 1: We had nothing to do with this. We're just reacting.

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Speaker 1: We're talking right now, by the way, about potentially trying

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Speaker 1: to make part of a trip over to Israel.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go, maybe Buck go.

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Speaker 2: Have fun with the guys on Sundays, the Sunday Hang podcast.

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Speaker 4: And it turns out our timing today is really something

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Speaker 4: we were just talking about.

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Speaker 2: The deep dive into flags.

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Speaker 4: The appeal to heaven flags, like they're practically flying the

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Speaker 4: stars and stripes over there too. It's crazy, the appeal

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Speaker 4: to heaven flag outside of injustice, Alito beach home from

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Speaker 4: three years ago, very upsetting to The New York Times.

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Speaker 4: We discussed why they might be doing this, and I said,

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Speaker 4: to you leave, I would say, almost exactly ten minutes ago.

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Speaker 4: The chance, yes, I agree with Clay. They want to

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Speaker 4: put pressure on Aledo. The chance of Alito recusing over this,

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Speaker 4: as I said, is absolutely zero. I said, there's no

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Speaker 4: chance of Alido doing it. And now we have a

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Speaker 4: statement that was just released as we are on air

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Speaker 4: with you Live from Justice Alito, who wants to guess

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Speaker 4: play go ahead. He is responding, and again this is

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Speaker 4: where I talk about the way that this is wandered.

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Speaker 4: After the New York Times story which Democrats got them

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Speaker 4: to write, multiple senators demanded that Alito recuse himself. Alito

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Speaker 4: now has just released a letter to Durban and Whitehouse,

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Speaker 4: two Democrat senators, and he says, this is in response

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Speaker 4: to your letter of May twenty third to the Chief Justice,

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Speaker 4: which I was saying John Roberts, requesting that he takes

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Speaker 4: steps to ensure I recuse in Trump the United States

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Speaker 4: and any other cases quote related to the twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: presidential election, or quote the January sixth attack on the Capitol.

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Speaker 2: And he cites the code.

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Speaker 1: Of conduct and says that it does not disqualify him

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Speaker 1: because his impartiality might not reasonably be questioned here. He

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Speaker 1: then explained the two incidents you cite again, these flag

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Speaker 1: flying incidents don't meet conditions for recusal. And this is

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Speaker 1: kind of funny, I thought, buck as I was reading it.

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Speaker 1: The first incident cited concerns the flying of an upside

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Speaker 1: down American flag outside the Virginia House where my wife

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Speaker 1: and I reside and he said I had I'm reading

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Speaker 1: I had nothing whatsoever to do with the flying of

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Speaker 1: that flag. I was not even aware of the upside

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Speaker 1: down flag until it was called to my attention. As

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Speaker 1: soon as I saw it, I asked my wife to

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Speaker 1: take it down, but for several days she refused.

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Speaker 2: I just I want to pause here.

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Speaker 4: If a guy is married, the guy is married, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, He's got to do what he's

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Speaker 4: gotta do.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of married men out there, Buck, you're

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Speaker 1: a newly married man, my wife. And then he continues,

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Speaker 1: My wife and I own our Virginia home jointly. She

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Speaker 1: therefore has the legal right to use the property as

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Speaker 1: she sees fit, and there were no additional steps I

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Speaker 1: could have taken to have the flag taken down more promptly.

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Speaker 1: My wife's reasons for flying the flag are not relevant

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Speaker 1: for present purposes, but I note that she was greatly

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Speaker 1: distressed at the time, doing a large part to a

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Speaker 1: very nasty neighborhood dispute in which I had no involvement.

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Speaker 1: A house on the street displayed a sign attacking her personally,

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Speaker 1: and a man who was living in the house at

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Speaker 1: the time trailed her all the way down the street

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Speaker 1: and berated her in my presence, using foul language, including

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Speaker 1: what I regard as the vilist epithet that can be

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Speaker 1: addressed to a woman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, worse than the B word. One that's worse than

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Speaker 2: the B word. Yeah, starts with the C.

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Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, my wife wouldn't recommend to use it,

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Speaker 1: especially not with a woman. My wife is a private citizen.

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Speaker 1: She possesses the same First Amendment rights as every other American.

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Speaker 1: She makes her own decisions, and I've always respected her

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Speaker 1: right to do so. She's made many sacrifices to accommodate

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Speaker 1: my service on the Supreme Court, including the insult of

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Speaker 1: having to endure numerous loud, obscene, and personally insulting protests

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Speaker 1: in front of our home that continue to this day

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Speaker 1: and now threaten to escalate. This is important. That is illegal.

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Speaker 1: They are not enforcing the law to protect Supreme Court justices.

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Speaker 1: We know this because someone tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: remember before the Roe v. Wade case.

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Speaker 2: Until the case is published, the case is not law.

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Speaker 1: I'm continuing to read. I am confident a reasonable person

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Speaker 1: who is not motivated by political or ideological considerations or

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Speaker 1: desire to affect the outcome of the Supreme Court cases

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Speaker 1: would conclude the events are counted above do not meet

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Speaker 1: the applicable standard for recusal. I am therefore required to

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Speaker 1: reject your request. That is the official letters. It has

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Speaker 1: just been released.

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Speaker 4: This is Elito kind of like that Leonardo DiCaprio meme,

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Speaker 4: but he's not using any profanity where he's like, I'm

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Speaker 4: not leaving. Alito is not leaving. He's not recusing, he

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Speaker 4: is not stepping down. Sorry, libs. Nice try, but not

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Speaker 4: even close, not even close. But I think it does

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Speaker 4: go to the anxiety they have Clay over some of

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Speaker 4: the Supreme Court decisions that are coming this way, and

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Speaker 4: they are hoping that they can at a minimum delegitimize,

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Speaker 4: if not pressure, I mean pressuring Alito, you know, good luck,

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Speaker 4: like they've been pressuring Thomas, as I said, for thirty

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Speaker 4: something years. And it doesn't if Thomas loves to just

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Speaker 4: you know, crush, crush. The Communists hopes and dreams that

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Speaker 4: every opportunity. So yeah, I think it's a couple of

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Speaker 4: more funny quotes. By the way, from this letter, My

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Speaker 4: wife is fond of flying flags. I am not which

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Speaker 4: is a very funny line. My wife was solely responsible

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Speaker 4: for having flags put up at the residence and our

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Speaker 4: vacation home, and she's flown a wide variety of flags

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Speaker 4: over the years, and I thought this is funny. In

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Speaker 4: addition to the American flag, she's flown other patriotic flags

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Speaker 4: and flags of nations from which the ancestors of family

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Speaker 4: members came, flags of places we have visited, seasonal flags,

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Speaker 4: and religious flags, and we get with the appeal to

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Speaker 4: Heaven flag. He addressed both of these stories that specifically

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Speaker 4: have been written. Yeah, one thing that I will say,

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Speaker 4: and this just came up in one of our one

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Speaker 4: of our commercial breaks. Clay did not warn me that

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Speaker 4: as a married man, it is my duty to smell

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Speaker 4: all questionable meat in the refrigerator and make the final determination.

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Speaker 4: But it's whether it's like, say, to eat or spoiled.

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Speaker 4: But once is not enough. I usually have to smell

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Speaker 4: it a couple of times to make sure that she

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Speaker 4: spoiled meat to make that determination. I had never done

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Speaker 4: this was this was a thing I usould just go

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Speaker 4: it looked okay, no problem, but I am forced to

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Speaker 4: smell this. Clay tells me he does not have to

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just because.

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Speaker 1: My wife rightly recognizes that I can't smell anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I think I have no now, I mean not

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Speaker 1: like I'm not like a one of these COVID long

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Speaker 1: sufferers who claims it. I mean, I can smell like

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Speaker 1: broad you know, sense of smell. But if you ever

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Speaker 1: lose your sense of taste during COVID. That when I

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Speaker 1: had COVID, that did happen to me. And I remember

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Speaker 1: just ordering lots of really spicy food because I had

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Speaker 1: learned from the interwebs that your ability to detect spice

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Speaker 1: is like heat based, it's not sensory taste based. So

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Speaker 1: you could pick up spice even if you couldn't pick

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Speaker 1: up salty, sweeten sour. Important suff That's that's a true

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Speaker 1: I had. No.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't other than like a mild cold.

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Speaker 1: The multiple times that I know of that I had COVID,

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Speaker 1: I had like, I mean, it was I would rather

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Speaker 1: have had a lot of bad colds rather uh, than

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Speaker 1: I would rather have COVID than a lot of bad

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Speaker 1: colds I've had. Do you think, by the way, this

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Speaker 1: is I'm still laughing about this flag situation.

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Speaker 2: This is utterly absurd.

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Speaker 1: Alito having to have conversations with his wife about the

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Speaker 1: fact that he was going to write a long letter

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Speaker 1: about the flags that she's been flying outside of the

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Speaker 1: house is one has to have been one of the

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Speaker 1: most ridiculous Supreme Court discussions ever because I bet Alito,

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Speaker 1: even though he's one of the nine most powerful jurists

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Speaker 1: on the planet, I bet he gets to decide nothing

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Speaker 1: inside of.

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Speaker 2: His house, right, I mean married, he wants to stay in.

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Speaker 2: This is what you saw.

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Speaker 1: There was a letter of a Supreme Court justice who

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Speaker 1: is one not recusing himself and two correct not planning

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Speaker 1: on getting divorced. I just I love the idea that

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Speaker 1: he is all powerful, that he can decide whether abortion

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Speaker 1: is legal in the country, that he can decide whether

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Speaker 1: Trump has a presidential immunity, but he can't even decide

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Speaker 1: what flags fly outside of his actual house. And that,

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Speaker 1: I'm not kidding strikes me as exactly one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: true for the vast majority of married men in the country.

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Speaker 1: If your wife's really into flags, and it sounds like

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Speaker 1: she is because this list, he's sports teams flags, college flags,

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Speaker 1: she is a flag flying fan. The last thing you

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Speaker 4: ode with the movies here for a second. I got

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Speaker 4: to look at where the movie theater stocks are because

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Speaker 4: I got a figure that it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: tough time for movie theaters going forward. It's when you

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Speaker 4: add up all the headache. First of all, the notion

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Speaker 4: you have to be somewhere at a certain set time

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Speaker 4: even to watch a movie. It's not a Broadway play like,

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Speaker 4: it's not quite the same kind of event. I remember

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Speaker 4: back in the nineties early nineties going to a movie

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Speaker 4: with my family when it was first coming out and

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Speaker 4: it was a big movie like the first remember the

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Speaker 4: the Michael Keaton Batman e n That was a huge

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Speaker 4: movie when that came out. I remember going to see

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Speaker 4: Jurassic Park with my parents and my whole family and

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Speaker 4: seeing that the Zigfeld Theater in New York City and

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Speaker 4: the giant speakers, and that was so cool. Movies used

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Speaker 4: to be an experience that you couldn't replicate at all

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Speaker 4: at home. Now you can and you don't have people talking.

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Speaker 4: What is it with people think that when the when

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Speaker 4: the music gets loud or the sound gets loud, you can.

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Speaker 2: You get start to do with the loud whisper.

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Speaker 4: Thing no, no, no, and pulling their phones out, and

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Speaker 4: it's just it's you know, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't go to I don't go to movies anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of out. I watch movies. I just don't

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Speaker 4: go to the movie theater anymore.

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Speaker 2: I love going to the movie theater.

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Speaker 1: And staff looked this up and and and crew confirmed

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Speaker 1: that I'm conding you still do though you still do

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Speaker 1: still want to take it. My boys like to go

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Speaker 1: see a movie, love the experience. Uh, even today, I

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Speaker 1: would still I was one of the diehards that would

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Speaker 1: still be willing to go to the movie when everybody

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Speaker 1: else was convinced they were gonna die of COVID. I

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait for the movie theaters to be back open.

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Speaker 1: I think they opened back up in like May or

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Speaker 1: June where I am. I was right back in the

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Speaker 1: theater as soon as I could be, even when they

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Speaker 1: were showing old eighties and nineties movies because they didn't

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Speaker 1: have any new movies to be able to watch.

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Speaker 2: What was the was?

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Speaker 1: What was the movie that came out that was like

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Speaker 1: the first movie to come back out after COVID? That

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Speaker 1: was a I know we had Top Gun Maverick, but

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Speaker 1: the Interstellar guy, Uh didn't he come out with a movie?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Inception? Is that the movie that came out for what.

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 2: No one who had It's?

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Speaker 1: It's Denzel Washington's son, and it was about the theater

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Speaker 1: getting taken over and it's kind of a thriller and

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Speaker 1: you could change. That was the first real new release

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Speaker 1: to come back out after COVID, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: that was I don't remember when that came out, but

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Speaker 1: I remember being super excited to.

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Speaker 2: Go see it. I wanted to go this weekend buck.

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Speaker 1: I got my phone out, I pulled up the fan

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Speaker 1: Dango app.

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Speaker 2: Mean to Fail. It's unbelievable how awful they were.

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Speaker 4: Tenant is the movie that you're tending. I wish I

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Speaker 4: never saw. I know nothing about it.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 4: They're not making good movies anymore. But they're not making

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Speaker 4: good movies because the whole industry has changed. Because people

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Speaker 4: aren't paying twenty bucks a person to go sit in

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Speaker 4: the theater the way they used to. They want to

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Speaker 4: sit at home and stream it. That's just the reality.

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Speaker 4: My couch is so much more comfortable than a movie theater.

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Speaker 1: I want to be in the movie theater with really

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Speaker 1: good movies out again, like in the eighties and like

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Speaker 1: in the nineties. I think that Hollywood has just destroyed

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Speaker 1: itself by being more concerned with politics than story. Just

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Speaker 1: get back to telling me good stories. That's all I want.