WEBVTT - Grace Slick 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:12.480 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Sets podcast. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:19.960 My desk today is truly legendary. Great slick Grea. Hello, 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.599 I gotta ask. We're in the hills above Malibu. Where 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.360 were you during the fire? I was right here and 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:33.120 they said mandatory evacuation. So I went with a friend 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:37.120 of mine to a hotel in Santa Monica and watch 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.680 what I thought it was my house burning down on television. 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.280 Turns out the property around it it's burned up, but 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.480 not the house. So I'm back where I used to live. Wow, 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.280 that's great. Now. People always think you think of you 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.880 as a North Cow kind of girl, and here we 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.520 are in so cal and there's a really big different mindset. Whatever, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.320 how'd you end up in so Cal? Um? I moved 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.560 down here. I thought my daughter was down here, so 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.720 I thought, I've always liked l A. Most people from 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.240 San Francisco are real snobby about l A. And I 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.200 want to say to them, how about the movie industry, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.360 which has influenced your life, whether you think so or not. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.880 This is a storytelling land and that's been what people 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.800 have done forever, is tell stories either around a fire 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.760 or in a big cinema So what are a couple 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:38.000 of your favorite movies. Oh, start for starters, the old 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:43.319 uh Disney stuff, Fantasia, Snow White, and The Seven Dwarves. 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.160 But during the fifties I didn't care for the style 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.640 of drawing that they did with Disney. I liked the 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:55.360 earlier style, Like you have night on Bald Mountain in 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.800 Fantasia and you see this black mountain and it starts 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:04.920 opening up and it's this horrible creature with red eyes. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.760 I mean, it's really well done. So I like that 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.919 the red shoes that taught me don't give up. She 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.120 kills herself. Oh, I can't decide whether I want to 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.200 be a ballerina or or be married to this guy. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:24.440 How about both? You can't do both? Come on? So 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:27.880 I wanted at all the kid the man job, and 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:33.200 it can be done. Something's going to suffer, though, assuming 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.079 looking back to your career from an outside perspective, you've 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.959 achieved all of that more or less. Yeah, you hang 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:44.079 onto it for a while. I think the person who 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.799 suffered most with this is my daughter because she's all 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.480 sensitive and stuff, which is part of her generation. They 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.720 have like a lot of issues. Okay, let's start to 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.959 you don't have any issues. Oh I probably do. I'm 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.480 just not aware of them because we didn't talk about it. Okay, 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.960 let's go back to Fantagia. The big thing. Fantagia was 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.639 made in the thirties, big thing in the sixties, came 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.440 back to the theaters and you would go on drugs. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.520 Did you have that experience too? Sometimes? Yeah, okay, And 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:18.120 then you're saying, even though looking inward in California is 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:23.880 really inside seeking, staten't do that. You never went to 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.880 the psychiatrist. Never. I went to a psychiatrist once because 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.560 the left side of my body hurt, and I went 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.440 to heart people know your heart too. I went to 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:41.160 muscle people. No, maybe it's psychosomatic. Go to psychiatrists not Okay, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.640 I don't do psychosomatic. That's corny. But I went anyway, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.640 I'll do what i'm told occasionally. So I went to 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:52.080 the head of UC Parnassus, and I did four sessions 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.800 with him. And he said, is that your purse? He's 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.119 looking down. I put it on the floor and I said, yeah, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.240 its off the big and he got up, walked over 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.720 and lifted it up. He said, are you right handed? 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.560 I said yeah. He said so you wear this on 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.920 your left shoulder and I said yeah. He said, why 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.600 do you have so much stuff? I said, well, maybe 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.920 I want to go to France tomorrow. So I got 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.000 my passport of toothbrush on your pants. He said, well, 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.560 I'll tell you what. Either I don't load the purse 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.559 or start wearing in the right side for a while. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.760 Sure enough, he's right, So that's fun. You have to 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.880 go to a psychiatrist for that, for real practical advice. Yeah, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.160 because they couldn't figure out what was wrong. It kept 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.920 hurting and they didn't know. So that's that's the only Okay. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.919 But if we were here alone till midnight, just the 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.080 two of us, would you be plumbing your inner depths 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.279 or will be more talking external stuff? Oh? Sometimes it 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.280 depends on you. In other words, if you I'll talk 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.520 about anything except physics, because I don't know anything about physics. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.880 I didn't even take physics in high school. After chemistry 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.799 forget it. Yeah, I didn't like algebra. Love geometry because 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.920 that's spatial, but I don't like algebra. And I told 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.919 the algebra teacher, Uh, he said, why are you looking 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:05.920 out the window? I said, because I don't add letters. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.400 I add numbers and he said, well, but you have 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.560 to pass the course. I said, in California public school, 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.679 if you show up, you get a D. You can't 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.880 funk if as long as you show up. So I 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:24.200 showed up. Well, the I D. I ever got. I 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.240 like everything else, but I didn't like algebra. And I said, 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.320 not only that, sir, but I'm never going to have 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:36.280 to use algebra. And I never have because I knew 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.800 myself well enough at that time to know that's one 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:45.320 area I'm not going into. No thanks, okay. So Joe 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.320 Walsh says, the challenges is to live not to die young. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.320 There's this seven club. A lot of rock stars die 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.640 for whatever reason, especially drugs. You've lived through it, and 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.120 since it's totally available on Wikipedia, you're going to be 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.679 eighty in the fall. How do you feel about getting older? 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.080 I'm not really fond of it. But the only the 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.880 only thing that's good that happens unless your brains are fried, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:17.000 is you acquire some wisdom and you aren't quite as 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.720 frantic about everything. You realize that there are very few 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:25.760 things that are that important. Just relax because uh, you know, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.520 for one thing, I don't have much longer. If you're eighty, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.280 you don't have a whole hell of a lot of time, 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:36.360 So just relax and enjoy whatever you got left. There 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.440 was that movie The bucket List, which actually I did 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.960 not see. But at this stage your life, is there 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.240 anything you feel you have to or want to do 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.800 before you pass? No, it's all already gone. In other words, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.400 I didn't learn how to ride a horse, but now 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.599 every bone in my body break if I tried to 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.480 learn how to ride a horse. I never did. Jimmy 0:06:55.560 --> 0:07:00.640 Hendrix and uh Peter O'Toole, But see they're both dead, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.800 so I can't do them anyway. So everything I have 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.240 on a bucket list is not available. How how old 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:12.840 were you when you first lost your forginity? You were not? 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.480 Were you the bad girl growing up? Or were you 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.480 sort of a street arrow? I was bad ish, but 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.920 I didn't get in a lot of trouble. Uh. My 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.120 friend and my best friend and I said, I went 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:30.280 to a private school, Casteleia in Palo Alto for my 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:35.600 junior and senior year. And uh, we used to the 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.680 girls that talked about who are you going out with 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:42.400 this weekend? And Pam and I would say, oh, Gordon Gilby. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.320 My parents drank Gordon's gin. Her parents drank Gilby's gin. 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.440 So she and I'd go out and get to screw 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.480 it up together. But we made it home and we 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.440 didn't get arrested. I didn't start getting arrested until I 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.240 was something. Okay, looking at you right now, it does 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.120 not appear you've any had any cosmetic surgery. Okay, no, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.880 I did about thirty years ago. But you've got to 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.800 keep it up. It doesn't stay. You've got to keep 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:16.240 it up once every couple of years. Um, eyelids, the eyelids, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.480 you have to. I've been told you I'm gonna have 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.360 to have the eyelids because they droop and you can't 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.680 have any peripheral vision, so that's necessary. What else did eyelids? 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.960 And uh? Pulled up face stuff? Here? It goes around 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.280 the ears and you can see a scar in the 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.840 back of my head where they did it. But that's 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.760 like thirty five or forty years ago, so it's a 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.640 little bit more crude than it is now. Okay, are 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.800 you happy you did it? Irrelevant? Sure, because I kept 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.520 on for another ten years. Uh in the eighties doing 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.200 I was around forty at the time, which means around. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.320 And so I had another ten years of being on 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.000 a stage and not looking like a drooping slob. But 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.280 after that, I stopped when I was about fifty. So 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.480 after that there's no point in it's expensive and I 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.360 wasn't on a stage. I don't need to look like anything. Okay, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.880 So at this stage of your life, do you have 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:18.320 a love life? You have a significant other for some reason? Uh? 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.000 And I used to be a real horn dog, but 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.720 now it went away about ten years ago. And I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.720 don't know if it's hormones. I don't know if it's uh. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.800 Other medical things that I have, one is the ethro melalgoe, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.920 which is very rare. It is if my feet get 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.320 over about fifty sixty two degrees fahrenheit, feels like somebody 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.680 poured boiling water into But it's so rare they don't 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.760 study it because it's called up. They wouldn't make any 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.360 money off it, so they don't know what causes it. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.640 They don't know how to care it. It's not people 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:54.920 who smoke. It's not people who don't smoke. It's not 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.400 people who do. It's not young, it's not all that. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.280 It's all over the map. Demographically, so they don't know 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.160 anything about it. So I have two pots that I 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.120 keep on either side of the chair where I sit 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.360 and paint, and about four times a day pull the 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.880 pots out, put ice in the pots, put my feet 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.960 in the pots, and that solve the problem, Yes, it does. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:18.800 And any other health problems, yeah hard. I've had two 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:24.600 heart stints, i have Type two diabetes. I had high 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.840 blood pressure. I think it's gone down a little bit. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.880 But I'm a mess of stuff. I've got really good 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.240 doctors though. Uh, so they keep throwing medication at it 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.400 and then pulling this one out for a period of 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.840 time and then putting that. So I'm my pile of 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:47.520 non fun drugs. Uh. Do you do still partake of 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:51.120 drugs that might change your viewpoint? Shall we say no? 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.760 Because uh, people have often said, let's say your drug 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.800 of choice is speed. So they said, well, I'm not 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:06.160 to any speed anymore, but I do drink. Uh my opinion, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.440 and it's only my opinion, And as opinion is that 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.720 you can do some other drug that was not your 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.280 drug of choice for a certain period of time. Eventually 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:23.200 you're gonna wind yourself back to whatever was your drug 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.240 of choice. So I don't do any so called fun 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:31.160 drugs at all. When did you stop twenty three years ago? Okay, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.320 do you you went to a A Yeah? And do 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.280 you still go to meetings or not? Yeah? You're not 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.840 supposed to be talking about it though, neither mind, but 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.480 I can talk about you kept talking. But uh, People 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.080 Magazine broke my nanimity about forty years ago anyway, so 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.080 it doesn't matter. Well, it's just you brought up the 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:54.040 program otherwise, know either, like I've had my anonymity broken. 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:56.720 But I don't care because either you want to get sober, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.800 you don't what motivated you to get sober? The look 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:06.440 on my daughter's face, and I thought, I can't keep 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.120 punishing my body this way. I'm too I'm getting too 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.240 old for this, like Danny Glover said, I'm getting too 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.599 old for this ship. And uh, that's pretty much it. 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.520 Like if I were to get as loaded as I 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.520 did a long time ago, I'd probably kill myself in 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:27.040 one night because I'm too old. And your drug was alcohol. Yeah, now, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.520 both my sponsor in a whom I've had for a 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:36.160 long time, and I said, if Roar, which is a 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.760 company German, did they make sobers whatever? If they make 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:46.400 coludes again seven fourteens and they've been in a dark 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.600 bottle in an ice box somewhere unopened, say for thirty years. 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.920 I did this just to be funny. When my sponsor, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.679 I said, uh, what would you do, she said, I'd 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.480 ask you to share. You know, this comes up. Everybody 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.080 was in the early seventies. Howard Stern was talking about 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.920 that being soapers. They thought, you know, queyludes were the 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:11.360 best drug. So uh, at this point in time, I 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:12.920 know that you go on the road with your art, 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.520 we'll talk about your art. Leader not anymore. You can't 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:19.400 do it because my feet. Okay, so when did you stop? Uh? 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.679 Five six years ago something like that. Okay, So were 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.880 you more of a homebody or O? Yeah, I don't 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.200 go anywhere. The only place I go is to a 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.520 grocery store because it's cold. You know, they keep them 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.440 cold to keep their food fresh. So my feet don't 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.000 mind a grocery store. My feet don't mind a car 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.400 because there is the little thing on they are conditioning 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.439 that points to the feet. So if there's a foot situation, 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.520 I'm good. But most places don't have that. Once every 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.840 six months I'll go to an actual movie, and it's 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.640 something that usually draws my attention so heavily that it 0:13:55.760 --> 0:14:00.600 doesn't my feet. I know they're hurting, but if your 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:05.520 attention is drawn away enough, then it's okay. So how 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.680 long did the foot things start to happen? When I 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.120 was about fifty three and I moved down here from 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.840 San Francisco, And at first I thought it was Oh, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.320 I guess I'm just because it only happened maybe once 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.040 every two weeks for a short period of time, and 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:27.040 I went to podiatrists, I went to oriental stuff, and 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.400 nobody can figure out what it was because it's so rare. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.720 But a friend of mine's brother is a doctor, and 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.720 he found it on of some obscure medical book and 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.680 he called me up from he lives in Ohio, I 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.280 think or somewhere, called me out and said, how does 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.280 this sound? And he read the uh indications what happens 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.760 uh with this saying? And I said, that's it. What's 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.200 the name of etro me all allergy? And I said, oh, yeah, right, whatever, 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.040 but that's what it is. And then you do it. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.720 The doctors about it looking for answers, yeah, but they 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.880 don't have any because no he studies it. Okay, so 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.080 you're a home body, are you tend to be alone 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.760 or people stop by or what? Well? I have friends 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.800 and my ex husband stays here for a couple of 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:14.920 weeks every month or so, and yeah, okay, so you're 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:19.120 still friendly with him. Uh, he's my good bunny and boy. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.640 He came here after the fire, uh and just went 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:27.560 around fixing everything. I mean, pulled up floors and put 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.840 him went in to home deep and putting new floors. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.120 He'd uh go over the paint that there'd be a 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.840 crack in the wall and you'd go over with this 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 white stuff that you do before you paint. And then 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.400 he painted and he'd climb up on roofs. Induced I mean, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.480 it's just unbelievable. And what does he do when he's 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:51.880 not here? He's a production guy. He no, he's lives 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:56.240 in New Hope, Pennsylvania, Oh. Production road production in Lidditz 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.000 and everything where all the companies are. He does. Uh, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.320 all kinds of stuff can be rock and roll or 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.240 he's doing. I think the next thing is Rick Wakeman, 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.440 who is both a musician and a comedian, which sounds 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.080 hard to do, but apparently he pulls it off. And 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.280 he's done Bett Midler, and he's done Us, and he's 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.040 done the Who, and he's done Kiss and he's done 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.720 all kinds of stuff. So he started cleaning toilets and 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.240 filled at the Spectrum in Philadelphia and worked his way 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.720 up to being a lighting guy and then worked his 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.920 way out to being a production Okay, let's go back 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.800 to the beginning. So your father did what for a living? 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:39.320 Investment banker and you today an investment banker makes tons 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.920 of money. Back then it was upper middle class. What 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.200 was the upper middle class? Yeah, he didn't make tons, 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.680 but he made enough. And I've had more or less 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.000 the same amount of money because I made about the 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.120 same amount he did. So I've been on uh, kind 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.680 of the same path, except for when I first got 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.000 married a Jerry Slick. He was going to San Francisco 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.000 State and I was modeling at I Magnuts in San Francisco. 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:12.200 So with two people in an apartment, and uh, I'd 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.440 take a car to the train station, train station into 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:21.919 San Francisco, a bus to I Magnets and then do 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.199 the reverse back home at night. And we lived in 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.760 a house. Uh I remember we were there when Kennedy 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:34.040 was killed it was ninety dollars a month for how 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:39.680 Wow in Petrero Hill. So you see how old I am. 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.879 It's been a while. Okay, Um today, do you have 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.840 enough money today? Yes? I'm not rolling around in money, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.800 but I'm I'm good. And is that primarily from music 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:58.120 or from mart music? Yeah? Definitely from music royalties coming 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.080 and investments, because both my accountant and my ex husband 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.840 manage whatever money is coming through to me. And is 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:11.280 there any income left from music? Oh? Yeah, okay. And 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:19.080 then Jefferson Airplane had this famous battle with your manager, 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.040 Matthew Kates. Okay, Now it ends up being a big 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.520 legal case, and I'm a lawyer in a previous lifetime 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.359 having to do with whether you can be both the 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.720 manager in the agent getting digs whatever in the middle 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.880 of that, because supposedly he held all the money. What 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.840 was your perspective? I wasn't with the band when he 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.879 was the manager. So this was before when I was 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:48.520 a great society and I went to party and they said, oh, 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.520 look there's our new manager Airplane guys, and I looked 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:58.080 across the room. He's signaling what he is. He had 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:04.320 on black cape with red line. I said, you're kidding me, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:09.240 come on, and sure enough he screwed him over. And 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.080 but it's I was only involved after I joined the 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:20.199 band because Paul Kantner was with Matthew Cats because of 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:26.960 the situation with airplane. But Paul was very generous. We're publishing, 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.280 so if you gave him one word, he would put 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:36.760 you in publishing. But then you're also Matthew So it 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.520 was tricky for years. It may still be going on. 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.840 I have no idea. I think it finally ended. It 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.080 certainly went off for decades. It was crazy. Okay, so 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:49.080 your father was an investment banker and you first grow 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:54.640 start growing up where Uh let's see, I was born 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.040 in Chicago, came out to l A when US three, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.800 lived here for a year, moved to San Francisco, lived 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.640 there for about seven years, moved to Palo Alto, lived 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.280 there for another seven years. I went to college in 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.960 New York for a year, then the next year went 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.960 to college in Miami and Florida. Then came back to 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.600 San Francisco, and it's it was starting to happen. Okay, 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:18.880 let's go back to when you're you know, you're living 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.239 in San Francisco, You're going to school Were you a 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.800 popular girl in school? Oh, I don't know. It's a 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.639 grammar school and we didn't have high school high school, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.560 uh more or less? Yeah, but I am very, very sarcastic. 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.320 So I got kicked out of the gang. There was 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:39.560 a gang of girls that were the popular girls, and 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:41.960 I was sort of in that. But I'm number two. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.320 Number one was, of course, and she's still a friend. 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.399 One blonde, big boobs. I had dark, kinky hair and 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:54.000 no boobs and short legs. Otherwise I was great, but 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.960 I got kicked out for being sarcastic, and uh, they 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:04.680 that's reasonable. Okay. So you were always going your own way? Well, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.320 I don't know if I was going my own way 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:11.560 because I liked hanging out with people. Uh, but I 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:16.520 have a difficult personality and if you pour alcohol on it, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.800 it's really difficult. Okay. So when did you start pouring 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:28.000 alcohol on it about? Okay? And you know this about yourself. 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.520 Did you have your this insight back then or only 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.960 as a result of hindsight. No, it's pretty much hindsight 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.960 because we just thought, oh boy, we're getting away with it, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.399 and isn't this fun? And it was fun for a 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:43.000 long time. You usually don't repeat stuff that isn't fun 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.920 the first time around. Oddly enough, Paul Kantner uh never 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.440 drank when I lived with him, and I said, why 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.240 don't you drink? He said, well, I tried it in 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.360 high school and made me throw up. I said, oh, yeah, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.520 made me throw up to it. Who cares? But he 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.840 eventually got into al ca hal unfortunately that's what took 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:07.480 him out. But uh, you know, it's everybody has a 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.560 different storyline and different reasons for why they do or 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:15.240 don't do whatever it is they're doing, or there's no reason, 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.560 it's just fun. Okay, So you're in high school. How 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.399 does your father or your parents decided to send you 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.399 from the public to the private high school? That was 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:29.400 my idea because my friend, uh Judy Levidis was going 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:32.560 to Castle Out, which is private, and I was in 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.320 public school, pal Wata High School, so I thought that'd 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.560 be fun to go over there because a couple of 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.640 my friends were in private school. So I went asked 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.320 was it different from public school? Well, you wear uniforms 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:49.280 and there are no boys, which for learning is probably better. 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.639 So you graduate from high school, did you want to 0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.320 go to college or that's just what you did. How 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.600 did you end up going to college? And I think 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:05.240 I was influenced by the Times. Everybody, you go to college, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:07.920 that's what you do, you know. So I went to 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:13.360 probably the easiest college in the world. It's a dip 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:17.280 ship college in New York that teaches you how to 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:23.159 go out with Princeton boys, which fork to use speech classes. 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:30.159 Tricia Nixon went there, that's a well known story. No, 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:34.440 she's ten years younger than I am, okay, but she 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.080 u When she got to the White House with her father, 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:44.320 she decided to have a t and invite all the alumni. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.000 It's real small school, so you can't do that of 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:52.879 French college. My name was Grace Wing at the time. 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.840 That's my maiden name, so she didn't know. You know, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.960 if it said Grace Slick, maybe they would have thought twice. 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.320 But so I got an invitation and I went, oh yes. 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:10.199 And so I had about six seven hundred mics of 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:15.040 acid in my pocket and a very long pinky fingernail 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.520 for cocaine dip that into a little thing. So I 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.280 figured I'm an entertainer and we gesture a lot. And 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.920 I knew about teas because I've been talked about teas 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.159 at Finch, you stand. You don't sit at a t 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.800 You stand. There are two urns on either side of 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.040 a long table. That's the way they kind of always are, 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.399 and you stand with your cup and you talk to 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.720 where you're talking to. I'm deciding that I'm talking to 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.560 Richard Nixon and the stuff is tasteless, but I get 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.080 a little bit of an in my fair nail out 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.359 of my pocket and just I'm gesturing, I'm talking over 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.240 his cup and he'd be loaded in forty five minutes 0:24:56.400 --> 0:25:00.560 or a half an hour, just the idea of him 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.399