Speaker 1: Episode Tree, how to design and afford your dream life.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Frugal Friends podcast, where you'll learn to
Speaker 1: save money, embrace simplicity, rights, and live with your life.
Speaker 1: Here your host Jen and Jill. Welcome to the Frugal
Speaker 1: Friends podcast. My name is Jen, my name is Jill,
Speaker 1: and today is part one of three of our Radical
Speaker 1: Middle Method series Sounds. We're into the we're into doing
Speaker 1: series now. I don't even know what that's just one
Speaker 1: thing we'll build on the next is what that means.
Speaker 1: And I typically don't like series because any time a
Speaker 1: podcast does a series, it's like I'm not into the series.
Speaker 1: I can't listen for four to eight episodes. But hopefully
Speaker 1: you will all be into this series because it's only
Speaker 1: three episodes and it's all about designing your dream life,
Speaker 1: making a financial plan to afford it, and then developing
Speaker 1: the skills to stick with the plan and achieve what
Speaker 1: you really want versus what you're being told you should want.
Speaker 1: And this is a fun sneak peek too into what
Speaker 1: we're doing in our membership group, wanting to share it
Speaker 1: with you all how we are approaching some of the
Speaker 1: foundational things of leading a frugal life that is fulfilling,
Speaker 1: that's tailored to our needs, and that is going to
Speaker 1: help set us up for the future in some beneficial
Speaker 1: ways to what we want to see. So we hope
Speaker 1: that this can just be really helpful for you in
Speaker 1: some small ways and big ways, short term and long term.
Speaker 1: And know that it builds upon one another. So with
Speaker 1: your listen into this episode, and I just know you
Speaker 1: can keep tuning in, you know, for at least the
Speaker 1: next two episodes. Yeah, well we have an interview, so
Speaker 1: the next four episodes stick with us for the next
Speaker 1: few years. And this episode is specifically talking about dream lives.
Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Vacation All I
Speaker 1: ever wanted. By the time you hear this, I will
Speaker 1: have just gone back from my vacation. I will be
Speaker 1: rested and rejuvenated and recovered from our virtual event, and
Speaker 1: I will be ready to podcast again today. While I'm recording, however,
Speaker 1: I am hanging on by a thread, a very thick thread,
Speaker 1: but a thread. Nonetheless, vacations say for them, take them,
Speaker 1: enjoy them. I feel like this is also like a
Speaker 1: warning for me to have how do I keep this
Speaker 1: thread together? I link the fibers in a way that
Speaker 1: helps us get through. It's a thick thread, it's almost yarn.
Speaker 1: It's almost when where are you are you hanging? Are
Speaker 1: you like holding on and you're just like two ft
Speaker 1: off the floor like an nb D if it breaks
Speaker 1: or you like over a cliff, I would imagine, well,
Speaker 1: this is too deep into I didn't think this far
Speaker 1: into it, but I would imagine I'm sitting hanging on
Speaker 1: by the thread. I am, well, it sounds more stressful
Speaker 1: actually than I even imagined. I maybe just you got coffee,
Speaker 1: you'll be all right. We're we're friends talking. Here we
Speaker 1: go if if this podcast topic is of interest to
Speaker 1: you and you want like, if you want more, if
Speaker 1: you want to hear more from us and Jenuine maybe
Speaker 1: a time which he wasn't hanging on by y're not
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, by threat you got episode one nine
Speaker 1: you can queue up where we talk about money mindset
Speaker 1: shifts that we all need to make. That's a tongue twister.
Speaker 1: Or episode one seventy seven, what is values based budgeting?
Speaker 1: Both of those are congruent with what we're talking about
Speaker 1: here and could be helpful. Yeah, So, like Joel said,
Speaker 1: this is something that we're talking about in our membership,
Speaker 1: but we wanted to um share kind of like an overview.
Speaker 1: And we have a you know, like full video series
Speaker 1: and workbooks in there for our members, but we wanted
Speaker 1: to just give you an overview and if you are
Speaker 1: really digging it, then you can join us in there.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you can totally do it on your own. But like,
Speaker 1: this is stuff we're not seeing elsewhere on the internet.
Speaker 1: So and you'll when we get to our one page
Speaker 1: financial plan, that will be clearly obvious that we have
Speaker 1: to rewrite the outline ten minutes before we recorded. So
Speaker 1: we wanted to share it so it's out there so
Speaker 1: if somebody else is looking for this idea, they can
Speaker 1: find it and it's here, and there's also opportunity to
Speaker 1: go further with it. But so for us, designing and
Speaker 1: affording your dream life. So many people talk about the
Speaker 1: designing your dream life and like the lifestyle design part,
Speaker 1: but they don't focus on the money aspect. It's either
Speaker 1: become an entrepreneur and live your laptop lifestyle. That's kind
Speaker 1: of the extent they go to. And then other people
Speaker 1: talk about how to afford life, But who's picture of
Speaker 1: life just like who's life. So it's really important to
Speaker 1: meld those parts together. And so you can't figure out
Speaker 1: what you want to do financially until you figure out
Speaker 1: what you want to do outside of your finances. So
Speaker 1: today is going to talk a lot about more of
Speaker 1: the lifestyle design portion with a little bit of the
Speaker 1: money tucked in because next are Part two is going
Speaker 1: to be all about the money and the affording part.
Speaker 1: So that is what we are kind of talking about
Speaker 1: when we talk about designing and affording your dream life.
Speaker 1: And there are different parts to a dream life plan,
Speaker 1: which we get into our our membership, but today we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about kind of like the idea behind it.
Speaker 1: And so that leads us to our first article, which
Speaker 1: is what is lifestyle design and five steps to living
Speaker 1: the life of your dreams? And this comes from your
Speaker 1: lifestyle business. This author talks a lot about in general
Speaker 1: on her blog how to create a business that aligns
Speaker 1: with the lifestyle design that you have, but this one
Speaker 1: in particular, I think is really helpful for anyone, whether
Speaker 1: or not you have your own business. And some of
Speaker 1: the things that I appreciate about it's the how, but
Speaker 1: also dispelling some of the myths, which always feels a
Speaker 1: little bit fun and salacious to me. So I'm excited
Speaker 1: to get into the its portion. I will say at
Speaker 1: the start of this if anyone else is similar to
Speaker 1: me in this way. Sometimes I hear a term like
Speaker 1: lifestyle design and I feel a little cringe e like
Speaker 1: it feels to me in some ways like live your
Speaker 1: best life now. And any time that I make that
Speaker 1: kind of statement, I make it kind of like how
Speaker 1: I just did, where it's a little bit sarcastic and
Speaker 1: poking fun at just that concept that you could have
Speaker 1: all of the rainbows and butterflies and sunshine and that's it.
Speaker 1: And I do want to say off the bat, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm already kind of getting to some of the
Speaker 1: myths that as we've talked about this, Jen, you and
Speaker 1: I and with our membership and and talking about this
Speaker 1: through this three part series. Is not that I think
Speaker 1: that my mindset has shifted a bit on what is
Speaker 1: lifestyle design and realizing I have done it. I maybe
Speaker 1: haven't put those words to it, but it is possible,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean the absence of life difficulties. Just
Speaker 1: how can we move towards something that we want and
Speaker 1: so getting into the article, one of the things that
Speaker 1: they highlight at the beginning is lifestyle design is about choice,
Speaker 1: meaning what do you want, where do you want to
Speaker 1: do it, and who do you want with you along
Speaker 1: the journey? And I think we all do answer those
Speaker 1: questions in one way or another, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not intentionally.
Speaker 1: And I think lifestyle design is that extra push to say, well,
Speaker 1: let's do it intentionally. It's the opposite of being victim
Speaker 1: to our circumstances. It's not life just happening to us.
Speaker 1: It is us engaging with life in a way that
Speaker 1: we want to in the midst of yes circumstances, we
Speaker 1: can't change difficulties that happen, barriers that arise. But still
Speaker 1: recognizing what is the power influence control that I have
Speaker 1: that is within my realm of influence that I can
Speaker 1: bear weight upon and actually make decisions that I feel
Speaker 1: are beneficial for me and maybe even those around me.
Speaker 1: So that's my caveat And also in alignment with what
Speaker 1: this article is saying, as we kind of get into
Speaker 1: well then how do we go about this? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think when I think about lifestyle design, there is an
Speaker 1: example and it's a few maybe months ago. The daycare
Speaker 1: where I take Kai, she had to shut down for
Speaker 1: a week because her daughter was in the hospital. And
Speaker 1: when that happened, I was able. I was not stressed
Speaker 1: about it at all, Like, yes, I have to work,
Speaker 1: I can't. I am not financially independent. I am not
Speaker 1: independently wealthy, like I still work from home, but I
Speaker 1: have designed a work that I love that I can
Speaker 1: take a week off from or or work you know
Speaker 1: here and there for a week while I keep my
Speaker 1: son at home. I didn't have to stress about where
Speaker 1: he was going, what we were doing, what I was
Speaker 1: falling behind on, Like there was absolutely no stress. It
Speaker 1: was just a an inconvenience. And I was able to
Speaker 1: still pay for that week, and like, bless the family
Speaker 1: with with not having to worry about, you know, my
Speaker 1: fee because they made it optional to pay for that
Speaker 1: week and um, you know, bring their daughter a gift basket.
Speaker 1: So they were just like there some And then I
Speaker 1: was talking to another mother texted me and she was stressed,
Speaker 1: like about whether she had to pay or not, and
Speaker 1: apparently she had to hire a nanny to like watch
Speaker 1: her kids while it was close to that was another
Speaker 1: expense and so like it's that to me is lifestyle design.
Speaker 1: It's not traveling the world in a lap, laptop lifestyle
Speaker 1: drinking my ties on the beach, though I do love that.
Speaker 1: That's not lifestyle designed. To me, I was able to
Speaker 1: go through that week completely unfhazed, able to bless another
Speaker 1: family in a time they needed it, and that so
Speaker 1: to that, to me, that's lifestyle design. And that's what
Speaker 1: we talk about when we talk about this, and it
Speaker 1: takes time. I think you know, both you and I
Speaker 1: can say we have gotten to a place where it
Speaker 1: feels great. There's more that we want to see for
Speaker 1: our lives. But we're in our mid thirties now, and
Speaker 1: I would say it took every bit of a decade
Speaker 1: to finally get to this place of, oh, this is
Speaker 1: what I've been aimed at and hoping for for a
Speaker 1: long time. I'm so grateful for it. Again, my life
Speaker 1: is not without difficulties, but there are a lot of
Speaker 1: things in the midst of it that provide flexibility that
Speaker 1: I've wanted. And it didn't happen overnight. So there's also
Speaker 1: that caveat with this whole lifestyle design cons step. It's
Speaker 1: not a snap your fingers and achieve it. And so
Speaker 1: if this idea is sounding good to you, that's the
Speaker 1: word sounding good to you. Here are some ways that
Speaker 1: we can engage in this. The first one is just
Speaker 1: know what you want, and I will say that's not
Speaker 1: an easily answered question. I think our second article will
Speaker 1: help us, so I'm not going to get two into
Speaker 1: the weeds on that one. The second article helps to
Speaker 1: fill in some of the blanks. But I do want
Speaker 1: to say you're not alone if you're kind of unsure.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. This sounds great, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what I would want my lifestyle
Speaker 1: to look like. That's okay, it's a step one. Take
Speaker 1: some time with it again, listen to the second portion
Speaker 1: of this episode, and that that can help fill in
Speaker 1: those blanks. Yeah. The next is to create a lifestyle
Speaker 1: design budget, which we'll also talk about more in our
Speaker 1: next episode. Not so much a budget, but just like
Speaker 1: a plan um. Because nine times out of ten, and
Speaker 1: this is this is the author speaking, but I wholeheartedly
Speaker 1: agree nine times out of ten, it costs much less
Speaker 1: than you think to live your ideal life because it
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean building a business or moving to a
Speaker 1: foreign country or having to retire early like it's it
Speaker 1: can be done on on less, and I think we
Speaker 1: just have to find maybe, yes, there's an ultimate goal
Speaker 1: that involves living on a beach in Columbia, but there
Speaker 1: are steps that you can take before that to also
Speaker 1: live a dream life now that you can afford. And
Speaker 1: then number three is make a plan. And I love
Speaker 1: what we talk about with our membership and Jen you
Speaker 1: highlighted this recently on a call that we had with
Speaker 1: some of our club members of make this plan when
Speaker 1: we're in this design phase without talking about money, and
Speaker 1: that will really help us to get to the heartbeat
Speaker 1: of what we want to see if we don't even
Speaker 1: like oftentimes we just jump to money, like well, what
Speaker 1: what can money afford for me? But really we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a better sense of what do I want my
Speaker 1: lifestyle to look like if we're able to answer that
Speaker 1: question without thinking about money. Yet money will come into it,
Speaker 1: of course, we we need resources, but consider a design
Speaker 1: plan that just looks like hopes, desires where with who,
Speaker 1: maybe even how, but not even considering the financial component yet,
Speaker 1: and that leads into having difficult conversations. Uh So this
Speaker 1: one says, perhaps you're going to be leaving your family
Speaker 1: for a while. And I don't know, this gets into
Speaker 1: some deece that maybe you and your spouse are going
Speaker 1: in opposite directions. I don't think. I think that might
Speaker 1: have been what happened for her. Maybe maybe for her. Um,
Speaker 1: it just says you might be saying goodbye to your job.
Speaker 1: That could be somethinging that you actually do. Maybe you
Speaker 1: need to find a higher paying job, or eventually, once
Speaker 1: you get to a certain part of your plan, you
Speaker 1: say goodbye to your job because you know you've made
Speaker 1: enough in your business. All hard conversations both UM, So
Speaker 1: you definitely need do need to have some difficult conversations.
Speaker 1: I would say the most difficult conversations you have are
Speaker 1: with yourself. Those are the most difficult conversations. And then
Speaker 1: incorporating your family, so your partner, even your children, even
Speaker 1: your extended family, because getting their input is important, but
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a make or break. These are
Speaker 1: the people who are important to you should be involved
Speaker 1: in your plans. But there are certain people who can
Speaker 1: dictate them in certain people who cannot. But it's still
Speaker 1: important to have those conversations and possibly create boundaries where
Speaker 1: needed the Again, as I dive into this topic more
Speaker 1: and more, I realized, oh my gosh, I did I
Speaker 1: did do this? Maybe I kind of wish that I
Speaker 1: had the steps to actually know what I was doing.
Speaker 1: But when Eric and I started to have our sights
Speaker 1: on wanting to move and wanting to come to St.
Speaker 1: Petersburg from the north, there were this the difficult conversations.
Speaker 1: And I almost didn't do it because I almost didn't
Speaker 1: have the conversation with my full time work and speaking
Speaker 1: with my boss about hey, could I keep my job
Speaker 1: but do it from Florida, And thank goodness, I could,
Speaker 1: like we figured out a way for me not to
Speaker 1: have to leave my job, maintain my job, do it
Speaker 1: from a new location. Eric already was remote, so that
Speaker 1: was fantastic. But that was a difficult conversation. But realized
Speaker 1: that there can be creativity involved and some problem solving
Speaker 1: and and just considering what could this look like? And
Speaker 1: I will say I think it has been an incredible
Speaker 1: quality of life improvement for Eric and I And oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so glad. I'm so glad we did
Speaker 1: step four of having the difficult conversations. Yes, the hope
Speaker 1: was also to be closer to you, to be able
Speaker 1: to invest more in this podcast, and it's happening. I'm
Speaker 1: like elated you did number five and then number five
Speaker 1: make it happen. Number five is put it to action.
Speaker 1: That's gonna look different for every person. But once you've
Speaker 1: gone through all of those other steps of designing it,
Speaker 1: where then we had to do it, implement on it.
Speaker 1: You've done a lot of work up to that point,
Speaker 1: so do it, which then moves into and I love
Speaker 1: this part the myths myths. The first myth we've kind
Speaker 1: of touched on it a bit that designing your your
Speaker 1: dream life means you have to travel the world. No,
Speaker 1: designing your dream life is what do you want? What
Speaker 1: do you want life to look like? Look like in
Speaker 1: the areas that you have influence and control over within
Speaker 1: your life. Of course, the writer of this she does travel.
Speaker 1: It's what she wanted to do. But I love that
Speaker 1: she encourages people that it's not mutually exclusive. You can
Speaker 1: design a lifestyle that you want and it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to look like what others on Instagram or blogs or
Speaker 1: other platforms are telling you. This is what you should want.
Speaker 1: It's okay if you want to stay home and that's
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that you desire. Absolutely, if you want to
Speaker 1: move homes, whatever it is, it doesn't mean you have
Speaker 1: to travel the world. So get that out of your head.
Speaker 1: Of course, if you want to, then have at it
Speaker 1: enjoy Absolutely That's never going to be me because one
Speaker 1: of my core values is community and I would rather
Speaker 1: like not love where I live and be in a
Speaker 1: great community, then travel the world. And so that's I mean, thankfully,
Speaker 1: I love where I live, but that is something that's
Speaker 1: important to me, is being invested in like a great
Speaker 1: core community. So that's I mean traveling and being a
Speaker 1: digital a man is never going to be something that
Speaker 1: I want to do. I do of to get away
Speaker 1: and see new places and so that kind of like
Speaker 1: secondary traveling. But yeah, you don't have to be a
Speaker 1: digital nomad. Myth two you have to start your own business.
Speaker 1: Uh So again I love that she's very candid on
Speaker 1: this because her whole business is helping you start a
Speaker 1: business to design your life. And she's like, but you
Speaker 1: don't actually have to do that one. Yeah, so like
Speaker 1: you can work remote or you can you know, do
Speaker 1: what Chill did and kind of like she does the
Speaker 1: remote work and then also sometimes travels for work. There
Speaker 1: are options and you just need to ask. Or sometimes
Speaker 1: you you work at nine to five in an office
Speaker 1: that you enjoy, like if you love it, then that's
Speaker 1: your You're intentionally designing your life and that's the goal.
Speaker 1: You do things with intention. Speak it from the rooftop
Speaker 1: because especially if you are entrenched in the fine personal
Speaker 1: finance world and you're like queuing up all the personal
Speaker 1: finance podcasts and Instagram accounts like this is the push.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of pressure out there to be
Speaker 1: a solo preneurs, be an entrepreneur, start your own side hustle.
Speaker 1: And of course we've done that and we appreciate it
Speaker 1: and we'd love to help others who want to. But
Speaker 1: you don't have to. Again, freedom, There is nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with having being employed. There are actually some really great
Speaker 1: benefits to it. For a while, we were self employed,
Speaker 1: and I was so grateful when I finally was a
Speaker 1: W two employee and salaried and just didn't have to
Speaker 1: worry about certain things that come along with owning your
Speaker 1: own business. So I support all of it, and at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it doesn't matter what I
Speaker 1: think if you've designed a lifestyle that you like, that
Speaker 1: feels great to you, that affords you the things that
Speaker 1: you want fan ta stick. You can push aside the
Speaker 1: pressures and obligations of other people telling you what you
Speaker 1: should or shouldn't do. So love that dispelling that myth.
Speaker 1: The third one is you have to become a millionaire.
Speaker 1: Now you out you do not have to be a
Speaker 1: millionaire to have a dream life. You don't even have
Speaker 1: to be have being a millionaire be a goal of yours. Again,
Speaker 1: it's a whole other pressure that people are putting on
Speaker 1: out there, And I love how she describes kind of
Speaker 1: the freedom that can come along with whatever you want
Speaker 1: and use utilizes this example of a person who maybe
Speaker 1: works eighty hours a week and makes half a million
Speaker 1: dollars a year versus the person who might work twenty
Speaker 1: five hours a week and makes forty dollars a year.
Speaker 1: It's very possible that the actual lifestyle lived by the
Speaker 1: twenty four hour work week and the forty dollars a
Speaker 1: year is way more flexible and enjoyable than the person
Speaker 1: working eighty hours making half a million. Like how we
Speaker 1: define an approach wealth and something worth aiming at is
Speaker 1: a spectrum in and of itself. So just recognize that
Speaker 1: you can push off the trappings and the obligations and
Speaker 1: the pressures in a lot of different ways. That if
Speaker 1: being a millionaire is not your goal, that's okay. You're fine,
Speaker 1: You're welcomed here, and you can design a life that
Speaker 1: feels great for you. M M. And that, by no
Speaker 1: means is us giving permission to not try to increase
Speaker 1: your income because it is a more efficient way to
Speaker 1: save money. You know, when you have more money, you
Speaker 1: can buy better quality things that save you more money
Speaker 1: in the long run. YadA, YadA, YadA. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: is no expectation to work and become this you know,
Speaker 1: mega rich person to travel the world. And I think
Speaker 1: that leads into the fourth myth, last one, you have
Speaker 1: to buck the system. So she references the four hour
Speaker 1: work week by Tim Ferris, which in two thousand and
Speaker 1: seven was for sure bucking the system. It was really
Speaker 1: like working remote was not common, and these days it
Speaker 1: is more common. So you don't have to create a
Speaker 1: new ecosystem or a new system at all. You it's
Speaker 1: much easier to make the system work for you in
Speaker 1: two so you don't have to do something new. You
Speaker 1: don't have to create something from scratch. It's it's much
Speaker 1: easier to make the system work for you in some way,
Speaker 1: or look for a way to make the system work
Speaker 1: for you. Mm hm. The article goes on to talk
Speaker 1: about like why do this and if you're interested in
Speaker 1: kind of being more and more convinced, feel free to
Speaker 1: check it out. But we're going to move into the
Speaker 1: next article, which is seven questions to ask yourself in
Speaker 1: figuring out what you want your dream life to be.
Speaker 1: And this one comes from Life Goals Co. There's just
Speaker 1: some fun pictures along the way. And again I like
Speaker 1: this one for the sense that it normalizes and validates
Speaker 1: those of us who may think I'm uncertain about what
Speaker 1: I even want. You're not alone if the pathway forward
Speaker 1: for short term or long term goals is not well
Speaker 1: defined for you, or this might be the first time
Speaker 1: that you're ever thinking about it, And so here you go.
Speaker 1: Here's some really helpful questions, some prompts. Even if I
Speaker 1: may if you're a journal or or a quiet thinker,
Speaker 1: here's some things that you can ponder. Oh, I guess
Speaker 1: everyone is kind of a quiet thinker. Or you can
Speaker 1: verbalize whatever you want to do With these questions, they're fantastic.
Speaker 1: You have permission, So let's go in the first one,
Speaker 1: what would you like to learn with no intention of
Speaker 1: having it as a side business. I love it when
Speaker 1: we take the pressure off of it being a side business.
Speaker 1: That's so in like in personal finance, it's like what
Speaker 1: do you like and how can you monetize it? Which
Speaker 1: is totally fine, not a bad question. But first let's
Speaker 1: talk about what would you what do you like to do?
Speaker 1: What do you want to learn without having it monetized,
Speaker 1: And that can be a helpful indicator of certainly what
Speaker 1: what what draws us, what is engaging for us, what's
Speaker 1: life giving? And maybe even we'll provide us an outlet
Speaker 1: even if it does never become a business for us,
Speaker 1: you can at least see maybe a pattern. If you
Speaker 1: have a list of things, you can find a pattern
Speaker 1: in there and try to incorporate more of whatever that
Speaker 1: core is. One of the things I considered with that
Speaker 1: one is it could at least help us in designing
Speaker 1: our dream life so that we could have more of
Speaker 1: that thing that we really enjoy doing, or space to
Speaker 1: learn the thing we want to learn without the pressure
Speaker 1: to monetize, but figuring out other aspects of our life
Speaker 1: that makes that more accessible to us. The second question
Speaker 1: we can ask ourselves is what did you enjoy doing
Speaker 1: as a child. A lot of times, going back to
Speaker 1: some of our first loves, the things that were true
Speaker 1: about us decades ago might still ring true. This is
Speaker 1: kind of getting at the core of our being before
Speaker 1: all of these other pressures or obligations came into play.
Speaker 1: What drew us It still could be relevant for us today.
Speaker 1: So understanding if we were really artistic or we enjoyed
Speaker 1: problems solving, like there might be a craving for that
Speaker 1: underneath as well. So think back, dig up pictures, old
Speaker 1: home videos. What kind of kid were you? And what
Speaker 1: might that say about yourself and what you might want
Speaker 1: to incorporate into your life as an adult. I used
Speaker 1: to do math problems on a whiteboard. I would just
Speaker 1: do one plus one is two two plus four or
Speaker 1: four plus and I would just go on and on
Speaker 1: and on. And now you kind of do that on
Speaker 1: our Instagram account, things on a piece of paper and
Speaker 1: videotape it and share it with the world. Yeah. Uh
Speaker 1: So the next one is who are the five people
Speaker 1: you admire or envy most and what do you admire
Speaker 1: about them? So this does not have to be celebrities
Speaker 1: and and she says this activity was helpful for me
Speaker 1: because I have the tendency to glorify other people's lives
Speaker 1: and vicariously live through them instead of doing the work
Speaker 1: to achieve what they have. So A k A. She
Speaker 1: spent way too many hours on YouTube, and I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I was at the gym yesterday and they
Speaker 1: asked like, what do you spend way too much time doing?
Speaker 1: And everyone was like social media? And I was like,
Speaker 1: why that's so telling, because I think we're doing this
Speaker 1: uh so doing doing the work of becoming more like
Speaker 1: the people that we admire. And then the next thing
Speaker 1: is what can you start saying yes too? I do
Speaker 1: think that we have hit a wave of being able
Speaker 1: to say no, recognizing boundaries, being able to say ah,
Speaker 1: that's not for me. But I think too, this is
Speaker 1: that radical middle right, not only saying yes, not only
Speaker 1: saying no, but being really mindful and aware of but
Speaker 1: what do I maybe want to say yes to that
Speaker 1: other factors might be inhibiting me? But really, deep down
Speaker 1: it draws me it's maybe not something I would normally do,
Speaker 1: but it's exciting me. And how can I make ways
Speaker 1: to be able to say yes to those things, those
Speaker 1: opportunities that could be really telling about what a dream
Speaker 1: life could incorporate for us. And I love that she
Speaker 1: says say yes and if you don't like it, don't
Speaker 1: do it again. But we'll never see what our potential
Speaker 1: is or what we like or want to do if
Speaker 1: we don't get out there and try new things. And
Speaker 1: we have to sometimes we have to fail at things
Speaker 1: that we do. And failure isn't the end all be all.
Speaker 1: It just means, I mean, maybe I didn't like this,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't do it again, or maybe I try harder. YEA.
Speaker 1: For some of us, we can also create visuals. A
Speaker 1: lot of us are visual people, I think, so even
Speaker 1: putting together scrolling Instagram or taking a walk outside and
Speaker 1: taking pictures of the things that draw us, or writing
Speaker 1: down considering what do we like, creating a collage whatever
Speaker 1: it might be. It can look however you want it
Speaker 1: to look. But beginning to imagine and put visuals to
Speaker 1: what are the things that I want incorporated into my life,
Speaker 1: what's important to me, what's life giving? That can also
Speaker 1: be helpful actually hands on engagement in this process. I
Speaker 1: don't love vision boards because I feel like if I
Speaker 1: have see a vision board and I'm just stare at
Speaker 1: things I want to do but can't do, it makes
Speaker 1: me feel sad. But if you're making like visuals for
Speaker 1: your one, five, and ten year goals, which is what
Speaker 1: she says to do, like that can actually be really healthy,
Speaker 1: Like especially of visual like visual reminder for your one
Speaker 1: year plan, I think very healthy. What don't you want?
Speaker 1: This is a thing if you can't figure out what
Speaker 1: you want, surely you know the things that you don't want,
Speaker 1: So start with that and then start subtracting. Shift things around.
Speaker 1: Just start subtracting things that you don't like, and eventually
Speaker 1: that will make space for you to find the things
Speaker 1: that you do want. I love this doc g talks
Speaker 1: about this. We had him on our podcast and yeah,
Speaker 1: the art of subtraction. I think that can be really
Speaker 1: healthyre that and a feeling about it. Little teaser what
Speaker 1: is what is the future you like? And when you
Speaker 1: think about what you might want, even in big terms,
Speaker 1: what do you think? What what is it that you want? Uh?
Speaker 1: Feel free? There's various exercises that you can do. You
Speaker 1: can write to yourself in five years and what are
Speaker 1: you working on now? Where are you at in life?
Speaker 1: How do you feel? You can get as detailed as
Speaker 1: you want, but just give yourself the space and permission
Speaker 1: to imagine what the future could hold. And again going
Speaker 1: back to that first article, I can't answer some of
Speaker 1: those questions of what do you want, who do you
Speaker 1: want with you? Where do you want it to be?
Speaker 1: Those are some big overarching pieces and it can also
Speaker 1: tie into what do you what do you don't want?
Speaker 1: That can also help. Yeah, and finding your core values
Speaker 1: is essential to this. We didn't talk about much about
Speaker 1: core values in these articles, but that's one thing that
Speaker 1: we used to guide. It's like a true North type thing.
Speaker 1: And Uh, you can find out a lot about what
Speaker 1: you want from life and a lot about what you
Speaker 1: don't want from life if you are confident in your
Speaker 1: core values. UM. And then also having the mindset that
Speaker 1: says my core values can change. That doesn't mean I've
Speaker 1: failed or I'm going to give up. It means I
Speaker 1: shift and I've grown. Uh. And so moving on this
Speaker 1: path and happened ever forever refining your mindset and your
Speaker 1: core values I think that is the goal, because you're
Speaker 1: never going to be able to predict what your future
Speaker 1: is going to hold ever, you just can't, So why
Speaker 1: try give yourself a vision? No, continue to discover who
Speaker 1: you are and then and make goals around that and
Speaker 1: then hold them loosely. And I think that's the big,
Speaker 1: big picture. Do you know what's my true north? And
Speaker 1: I never want to let go of This will never
Speaker 1: change for me. It is truly a core value. The
Speaker 1: bill of a week. That's right, it's time for the
Speaker 1: best minute of your entire week. Maybe a baby was
Speaker 1: born and his name is William. Maybe you've paid off
Speaker 1: your mortgage. Maybe your car died and you're happy to
Speaker 1: not have to pay that bill anymore. That bills, Buffalo bills,
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, this is the bill of the week. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm calling in and my bill of the week. We
Speaker 1: decided to use some of our emergency savings to pay
Speaker 1: off the rest of my my husband's car loan UM
Speaker 1: so that way we can use the money that we
Speaker 1: would have been spending on the car loan to pay
Speaker 1: down my student loan debt. We also went through our
Speaker 1: spending um and our statements and our bank accounts and
Speaker 1: canceled all of the subscriptions that we don't actually need.
Speaker 1: And we found out that we were spending almost two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in these things, and so now we have
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars to UM throw at debt. And we
Speaker 1: also went into our benefits accounts and realized that we
Speaker 1: I had a flexible sending account for dependent childcare and
Speaker 1: I wasn't using it, and so I just submitted a
Speaker 1: claim and so we might not have to pay for
Speaker 1: my son's preschool for the rest of the school year.
Speaker 1: So there's all this money that we just freed up
Speaker 1: just by looking at our expenses. And we're super super
Speaker 1: excited about this UM. And we just paid off my
Speaker 1: husband's car loan, so now we own his car fully
Speaker 1: and we only have one car loan left. So excited
Speaker 1: and really grateful for this community and for the motivation
Speaker 1: that I've found UM in listening to your podcast. UM
Speaker 1: And thank you. I hope you have a great day.
Speaker 1: Bye bye you all, Ninja your fami. I think that
Speaker 1: was a triple bill, a triple threat bill. I think
Speaker 1: it may have it may hold the record for bills
Speaker 1: like you just that was that was bam, bam bam.
Speaker 1: Let's recap it. There was the taking money from the
Speaker 1: savings to pay off the car loan, which and as
Speaker 1: long as it's not your emergency fund, if it's just
Speaker 1: other savings, we support. Then the canceling all the subscriptions
Speaker 1: and freeing up two hundred dollars a month, Well, you
Speaker 1: skipped that. They once they canceled the car loan, that
Speaker 1: money that was being spent on the car loan got
Speaker 1: put towards debt debt, and then canceling the subscriptions and
Speaker 1: free two hundred dollars. And then here we are using
Speaker 1: the PCT spending account to pay for some pre school
Speaker 1: you ninja your budget? That might be a quad bill?
Speaker 1: Wow for that? Oh my gosh. You know we just
Speaker 1: in ice skating, we keep getting more and more quads
Speaker 1: and I was waiting for it to spill into other areas.
Speaker 1: And here we are is the first quad on the
Speaker 1: Frugal Friends podcast. And you're sending a precedent. I mean
Speaker 1: you are. That's gonna be tough act to follow, just
Speaker 1: like in ice skating, tough xs to follow. If you
Speaker 1: all listening, I mean, hopefully you're just inspired. If you
Speaker 1: want to go after this bill and you want to
Speaker 1: submit us a bill, It's okay. If it's just a
Speaker 1: double bill, that's fine. One bill or a dude named
Speaker 1: bill for somebody, it doesn't, it's fine. This revs us
Speaker 1: up no matter what it is. Visit Frugal Friends podcast
Speaker 1: dot com slash bill. Leave us your bill. It's it's
Speaker 1: our favorite part the show. And now it's time for around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my own and my own. So Goldie, Goldie's Goldie's in
Speaker 1: our outlines and she's been asking the questions. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: been um making our lightning round questions and um, so
Speaker 1: this one. What did you enjoy doing as a child? Oh, Jill, No,
Speaker 1: this is what I made? Oh you did this one funny? Forgot? Forgot?
Speaker 1: And reading it, I was like, this sounds familiar. What
Speaker 1: did you enjoy doing as a child that you have
Speaker 1: or want to incorporate more of or into your dream life?
Speaker 1: Jill was a weird trial. Oh my gosh, Jill, your answer,
Speaker 1: I might lose some listeners on this. I say, nothing
Speaker 1: has I remember my childhood and even like looking back
Speaker 1: on pictures and memorabilia, I really just enjoyed bossing people around.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with that, Like I
Speaker 1: would hold book clubs in the tree house and I
Speaker 1: would just I was so I wasn't I didn't know yet.
Speaker 1: I just bost people around. I bought my brother around.
Speaker 1: I took over girl. No, we don't say that anymore.
Speaker 1: We don't say we don't say girls or bossy. We
Speaker 1: say that they are born leaders. Okay, you're a born leader. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's even to this day. Eric and I lived with
Speaker 1: my grandmother for a year. She has Alzheimer's. She's still alive,
Speaker 1: which is amazing, but Alzheimer's has definitely really taken over.
Speaker 1: It's quite sad. But before she got to the point
Speaker 1: that we needed to put her into just a home
Speaker 1: that could provide care, we lived with her, and throughout
Speaker 1: my life and even into the onset of dementia, she
Speaker 1: would constantly ask me, are you are you bossing him around?
Speaker 1: Are you telling them what to do? That's her question,
Speaker 1: are you? I don't even know who she's talking about.
Speaker 1: I think she just is, like this has been always
Speaker 1: what she wanted to call out in me, like are
Speaker 1: you telling them what to do? Are they listening? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I call encouraging you encouraging or commenting
Speaker 1: on it, like are you you telling them what to do?
Speaker 1: Are they listening? Are you? Are you being good? Are
Speaker 1: you behaving? These are her questions. So I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I think as maybe i've grown into adulthood, maybe maybe leadership.
Speaker 1: Leadership has been a theme and and I enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I enjoy collaboration, I enjoy teamwork. I enjoy drawing out
Speaker 1: the best in people. So that's been maybe like the
Speaker 1: more beneficial pivot, like not just bossing people around. But
Speaker 1: when I was a child and I had childish ways,
Speaker 1: it looked like being bossy. When I was a child,
Speaker 1: I acted like a child. I bossed people like a child.
Speaker 1: And now I'm adult and I bought people like an adult.
Speaker 1: It's some wisdom right there for you. What about you
Speaker 1: when what does your child childhood say about you? Well,
Speaker 1: I was a nerd and I was not. They didn't
Speaker 1: call me bossy. But I also am independent, I would
Speaker 1: say more independent, um and like individually capable, which is
Speaker 1: it's we're an interesting mix because I am more of
Speaker 1: like I take the lead on most of the frugal
Speaker 1: friends stuff, where your leaders, you're definitely more of a
Speaker 1: leader of people than I am, but I'm just like
Speaker 1: a doer. I get things done. I am the home
Speaker 1: depot and so I'm thinking of their song, but I
Speaker 1: can't replica of it. So um, writing and learning were
Speaker 1: things that I did constantly as a child, like I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be. And I was an only child too,
Speaker 1: so I think that plays into this. But I I
Speaker 1: once I was good at writing as a child. But
Speaker 1: one time I took a writing assignment to my teacher
Speaker 1: and she read it and she partly, I'm sure, thought
Speaker 1: it was good, but then also partly she was just
Speaker 1: a great teacher and she wanted me to know that
Speaker 1: I was doing good work, and so she had me
Speaker 1: bring it to all the teachers in the pod um
Speaker 1: and show them so that they can encourage me also
Speaker 1: A yeah, it was something that like very much stood
Speaker 1: out to me. And when I switched from doing acupuncture
Speaker 1: to full time, writing was the thing in my life
Speaker 1: that made me believe I could do it. So that
Speaker 1: one little thing that my teacher did really played a
Speaker 1: significant role in me taking the leap into entrepreneurship and freelancing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing what an impact those little events within childhood
Speaker 1: can have on us. I don't know. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: well and negative, but I don't know that like being
Speaker 1: encouraged one time an adulthood would make the pivot that
Speaker 1: it can make for a child. It's quite remarkable. And
Speaker 1: so shout out to all of the teachers, parents, caregivers
Speaker 1: who are calling out the best in kids, because that
Speaker 1: one event can really set a trajectory for people, and
Speaker 1: you're doing it. This is a part of I would say,
Speaker 1: your dream life, what you are best at. I love
Speaker 1: it when that alignment happens, what you're good at and
Speaker 1: what you desire to do coming together. So and it does.
Speaker 1: It has come fully together. So next step is writing
Speaker 1: a book. We're gonna write. We're gonna do that. We're
Speaker 1: going she's calling it into being, it's I am calling
Speaker 1: it into being. So if you know any literary agents,
Speaker 1: hit us up, um, but I am forcing Jill into it.
Speaker 1: If there's people to boss around in the process, I'm
Speaker 1: your report. Oh absolutely, Oh my gosh, Yes, you can
Speaker 1: absolutely do that. And I will write most of the
Speaker 1: book because I'm on the first one. How does that
Speaker 1: song go? I don't know. I can't say anymore. I
Speaker 1: promise I am like more Well, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: would hope my imagine self is more lovely than just bossy,
Speaker 1: but I mean, maybe it's true. Are a leader that
Speaker 1: all right? Thanks everyone for listening. Many of you know
Speaker 1: we have a private community where we do monthly money challenges.
Speaker 1: We all for accountability groups so much. There's so much
Speaker 1: happening there, and we want to congratulate one of our
Speaker 1: members for a big win because wins also happened in
Speaker 1: this community. So Brenda shared, I've been m I A
Speaker 1: for a bit, but so much going on that I've
Speaker 1: only been checking post periodically. So after three to four
Speaker 1: canceled or postpone meetings, I finally had a chance to
Speaker 1: ask for a raise. I did get a raise, not
Speaker 1: as large as I wanted, but they added six more
Speaker 1: hours to my schedule, so it's worked out to about
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a month. Then several weeks later they
Speaker 1: asked if I'd be interested if they started a four
Speaker 1: oh one K. Not sure when that will happen, but
Speaker 1: up until now they've they haven't offered anything. My daughter
Speaker 1: graduated with her master's degree and I helped her move
Speaker 1: into her first full size apartment that she doesn't have
Speaker 1: to share with anyone. And at my apartment, where it's
Speaker 1: been very hard to get any repairs taken care of,
Speaker 1: they've decided to upgrade the entire complex, so new roofs,
Speaker 1: new paint, new mailboxes. Plus they finally came in, replaced
Speaker 1: my bathroom sinc replaced a cabinet door in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: I've never been so happy over a cabinet car before.
Speaker 1: It took eighteen months to get the repairs. Here's to
Speaker 1: continuing the trend towards getting the things I want and need. Brenda,
Speaker 1: this is amazing because I think it's a combination of
Speaker 1: things that you've done actively intentionally that you had power,
Speaker 1: influence and control over. But then there's some things here
Speaker 1: that you didn't have power, control or influence over but
Speaker 1: probably created gratitude for you. Like you didn't have much
Speaker 1: control over what happened at the apartment complex, but it's
Speaker 1: happening and you're noticing it and you're celebrating it, and
Speaker 1: it's creating momentum. So congratulations. Yeah, And it's like, not
Speaker 1: it didn't have to help my daughter move. I got
Speaker 1: to help her move into her first apartment on her own.
Speaker 1: And we know that you were talking about wanting to
Speaker 1: get a raise or more hours, and so we are
Speaker 1: super happy that you did and that I think this
Speaker 1: points out even though Chaparenta said, I've been m i
Speaker 1: A for a bit, like you don't have to be
Speaker 1: hundred percent into the community of the time. There is
Speaker 1: room to get what you need when you need it,
Speaker 1: and we are here. So congrats Brenda, Thanks everyone for listening.
Speaker 1: If you want to check out our monthly challenge community,
Speaker 1: head to Frugal Friends podcast dot com slash club to
Speaker 1: see what challenge we have coming up next. Share your wins,
Speaker 1: get some accountability, whatever you need. Love to see you there,
Speaker 1: see you next time. Frugal Friends is produced by Eric
Speaker 1: Sirian Jen. I have a story to share with you,
Speaker 1: Okay that I need to Well I did. It's okay,
Speaker 1: I've got five I've got five minutes. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: that's maybe in some ways related to dream life, but
Speaker 1: also I just need to get this out. So yesterday
Speaker 1: I had jury duty, first time that I ever actually
Speaker 1: went to jury duty. I've been summoned before, but okay,
Speaker 1: first time going. I've heard part of this story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so, so a lot of things happening. First of all.
Speaker 1: I was actually kind of like excited. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the most convenient thing, but this is maybe where
Speaker 1: it ties into dream life. I have the flexibility, it
Speaker 1: wasn't overwhelmingly stressful. I'm not going to be out of money. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's actually something that I can do as my civic responsibility,
Speaker 1: and it's something I've never done before, and I like
Speaker 1: new things and new opportunities, So I was kind of
Speaker 1: looking forward to and grateful that like I could. I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people who can't, so recognizing
Speaker 1: my own circumstances and this is a way that I can.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get out of it. So I
Speaker 1: going into it, I was like I had heard some
Speaker 1: some stories about people just sitting at court all day
Speaker 1: and them not allowing you to have your phone or
Speaker 1: your computer. So I wanted to get a book ahead
Speaker 1: of time to be able to read. And the only
Speaker 1: books that I have in my house are clinical. They're
Speaker 1: not fun. They're not going to like help me pass
Speaker 1: the time in like a riveting way. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to the library because I now have a
Speaker 1: library card. That's like part of my dream life and
Speaker 1: frugal life. The library was closed. I had jury duty
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It was like, I'll go on Monday, but
Speaker 1: the library was closed that Monday. So then I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, it was six o'clock. What am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: Eric was like, do you just want to go to
Speaker 1: a store and buy a book? I was like no.
Speaker 1: I mean not that I don't want to support authors,
Speaker 1: but it does kind of feel like a waste of
Speaker 1: money because I'm not a person who like rereads books.
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, let's find one of those free
Speaker 1: libraries in our neighborhood. You know, like people put up
Speaker 1: their boxes on their property. We apparently have like four
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood. Eric remembered one. So we got on
Speaker 1: our bikes and we went on a mission and I
Speaker 1: found one, and I found two books that were actually
Speaker 1: really interesting to me. So I got those two books,
Speaker 1: so didn't spend any money on that. Packed into my
Speaker 1: backpack to be able to take with me for the
Speaker 1: next day. Then I packed a lunch. I know that
Speaker 1: there was vending and whatever, but I'm going to pack
Speaker 1: a lunch. Did that, and also I had a gift
Speaker 1: card for breakfast at Chick fil A, so I got
Speaker 1: up early, went to Chick fil A, got my free breakfast,
Speaker 1: took my packed lunch, took my free borrowed books. On
Speaker 1: top of the world, able to be flexible, not stressed
Speaker 1: about the fact that I'm showing up to jury duty.
Speaker 1: I was there all day, eight thirty until five thirty.
Speaker 1: I was a part of the selection process, but I
Speaker 1: wasn't finally selected for the actual jury. But I was
Speaker 1: there from eight thirty a m untill five thirty PM.
Speaker 1: Walked out of the courthouse at five thirty PM to
Speaker 1: a flat tire. Yeah. Uh, that was not what I
Speaker 1: expected at the end of a long jury duty day.
Speaker 1: But you know what, It's not gonna get me down.
Speaker 1: I did have roadside assistance that covers fifty dollars. When
Speaker 1: I called, they said, well, we'll just have someone come
Speaker 1: out and help you change this to the spare tire
Speaker 1: that cost fifty dollars, so that's free. Great. Did have
Speaker 1: to wait for a while. I did what I could.
Speaker 1: I got the spare tire out, I got the jack out,
Speaker 1: I started reading the manual. I couldn't get the lug
Speaker 1: nuts off. Not gonna lie, couldn't do it. And actually
Speaker 1: a cop came by to try and help me, and
Speaker 1: he couldn't do it anyther He's like, well, we need water.
Speaker 1: I was like, I caught water. He's like, all right,
Speaker 1: best of luck to yet luck. Someone came someone changed
Speaker 1: it to the spare. Then I was like, is seven o'clock.
Speaker 1: I'm not making dinner. I had a gift card to Corrabba's,
Speaker 1: met up with my husband at Corrabbas. Ain't dinner on
Speaker 1: the gift card. So but still I'm going to have
Speaker 1: to buy a new tire probably. Uh so jury duty
Speaker 1: still did cost me despite all of my efforts. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I got a sinking fund. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get ourselves a new tire. But my
Speaker 1: good was that a day. Oh my goodness. I heard
Speaker 1: about the tire. And when Travis got off the phone
Speaker 1: with Eric, he was like He turned to me, He's like,
Speaker 1: you you change your own tire, right? And I was like,
Speaker 1: what in God's good earth makes you think I can
Speaker 1: change my own tire. I have chan showed you once
Speaker 1: I have changed the tire before. Yes, I could do it.
Speaker 1: I just could with the tools that I had in
Speaker 1: the car. The lug nuts would not come off. And
Speaker 1: again someone else came by uh able bodied male tried
Speaker 1: with the same tools that I had and could not
Speaker 1: do it us. And the person who came he had
Speaker 1: like an impact driver and that's how he was able
Speaker 1: to do it. But it was still free. And I
Speaker 1: did what I could. I wasn't a sitting duck. I
Speaker 1: put my hands to good use. You did, and I
Speaker 1: am so proud of you because I wouldn't have even tried.
Speaker 1: I would have walked. I would have found to taco
Speaker 1: bell and there was only a jail nearby, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought there was always a by a jail,
Speaker 1: that there's a taco bell by every jail there. It's
Speaker 1: only gonna cost me the new tire, not breakfast lunch,
Speaker 1: someone showing up books. I could have spent a lot
Speaker 1: more mhm, but it's not in my values system to do.
Speaker 1: That's the moral of the story, and I tried to
Speaker 1: twist it, but I am so proud of you. I
Speaker 1: mostly just needed to get that story out into the world.
Speaker 1: Did they let you take your phone? Yeah, so in
Speaker 1: the waiting room, I was able to have my phone.
Speaker 1: Then when we got to the selection process, you couldn't.
Speaker 1: But it was kind of riveting or like asking everybody
Speaker 1: like these intense personal questions and so like me and
Speaker 1: myself was like I'm here for this. It was a
Speaker 1: long time. It was like three hours, but it was
Speaker 1: like three hours. Do you think about the justice system?
Speaker 1: What do you think about cops? Do you have any
Speaker 1: strong opinions on this? On that? So it was like
Speaker 1: it was real. It was sixty people and they questioned
Speaker 1: all sixty of us, and we all in front of
Speaker 1: each other and of each other, sixty people. We sat
Speaker 1: there for hours and it was what do you do
Speaker 1: for a living? Married? You have kids? What do you
Speaker 1: do for fun? Do you have strong opinions? Like have
Speaker 1: you had sexual abuse training? Like it was all of
Speaker 1: the things and everyone had to answer in front of
Speaker 1: everyone else, so strong opinions, and that's why you weren't selected. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I think I was selected. I wasn't selected
Speaker 1: because I did have way too much training on the
Speaker 1: topic that they are um charging someone with and they
Speaker 1: didn't want that. All right, well you'll get them next here,
Speaker 1: next time with my packed lunch. Yes, okay, that's my
Speaker 1: dream life.