1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. As always, I'm 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: your host Claude Harmon. Next week, the last major of 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six happens at the Open Championship. Royal Birkdale 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: is the venue. Last time we were there, Jordan Speeth 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: won in twenty seventeen. Who can forget wild t shot, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable rule that he got, got a drop, played it 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: from the driving range and went on to win. Matt 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Coocher finished second place. But the eleventh time we've gone 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: back to Royal Birkdale and it's a pretty good list 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: of winners there. Peter Thompson won in nineteen fifty four, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five, Arnold Palmer nineteen sixty one, Trevino seventy one, 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Ian Baker, Finch, Marc o'meira and 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: then Podrick Carrington won in two thousand and eight, so 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: a really good venue. The wind always plays an enormous 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: factor there. In two thousand and eight, I remember it 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: was windy every single day three over one, but then 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: it was really calm. In twenty seventeen Jordan Spieth won 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: at twelve under, so two completely different tournaments, but I 19 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: think it's one that a lot of the conditions which 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: side of the draw. We talk about that every time 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: there's an Open Championship. It's cliche, but cliches are cliches 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: because they're true. If the wind dies down, the golf 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: course is scorable. So I figured we'd get Ryan Chrysler 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: back in this week to kind of take a deep 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: dive into the golf course and give a little preview 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: of what to expect. Rcie in taking a look at Birkdale, 27 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: what do you think are the difficulties and what do 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: you think are kind of some of the scoring chances 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: are scoring characteristics that we're going to see next week. 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think we'll be in for a treat. It's 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: going to be true links golf. The weather is all 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a big question mark. 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: The UK's going through a heat wave right now, so interesting. 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to be in London, I'm leaving in 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days and it's going to be in 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: the nineties. So if that's the case, it could get firm, 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: it could get kind of baked out, yes, and when 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: that happens, I think one of the hallmarks of Royal 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: Birkdale is the green complexes are I mean they're small, 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: they're not big. You know, you go to Saint Andrew's 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: where we have these massive, massive green complexes where you're 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: practicing seventy eighty foot pots. That is not what we 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: see at Birkdale. 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna have a whole new almost a completely 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: branding back line with some changes that they've made since 46 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: Jordan one in twenty seventeen and got a new whole 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: new part three, So a lot of that's going to 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: be kind of question mark based on the win, right, 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: But overall, the course is a classic link style course. 50 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: It's not as hilly like going over the dunes. It's 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: kind of between the dunes and in the valleys, so 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: there's a lot of kind of little different lines, and 53 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: of course you're going to have the classic difficult, hidden 54 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: kind of link spunker that you will want to try 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: to avoid in the fairways and around the greens. I 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: think we're just gonna be in for a treat. 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Not a lot of blind shots at Birkdale, so you're 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: not having those kind of hitting it over mounds. I mean, 59 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Royal Saint George's is like that. There's a couple holes 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: where you tee off, you can't really see where you're going, 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: so you're trying to pick some sort of sightline on 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: some sort of sand dude or something like that. Birkedale's 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: kind of right in front of you. And one of 64 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the things I like about if you look at that 65 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: kind of list of players. Obviously the old school guys 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: Peter Thompson, Arnold Palmer, Trevino, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, you 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: know Baker Finch, but of this new era, you know 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Baker Finch one in the early nineties, Omeira one in 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: ninety eight, Harrington eight and then seventeen. It's not a 70 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: bomber's course. In seventeen, Matt Kocher finished second, right, he's 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: a par guy. Brandon Gray in twenty seventeen, Shots sixty three, 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Courts Record sixty two. He's not a bomber. So obviously 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: length is always going to be an asset, right, it's 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: a weapon. But I think this is one of those 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: layout where it kind of evens everything out because you 76 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: need to get When we talked about this when we 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: did a preview of the US Open, fairways were pretty 78 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: wide at Shinnecock, where Wyndham Clark was the winner. But 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: at links golf, if you hit it offline, you can 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: hit it into places where you can't make a park. 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: You going sideways, you're going backwards, you're taking unplayables. 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: It's wild. When you think about links golf RC and 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: you think about what you need to play well on 84 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: a links golf course, what do you think the challenges 85 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that it forces players to deal with across the board? 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Well, especially if you're American and we're used to hit 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: and hide bombs and trying to very well wedges. But 88 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: in a link style of course, the target may not 89 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: be the green. It may be the side of the 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: green map that kind of feed it in off a 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: hill something like that, And also depends on where the 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: pin is, So there's there's gonna be a few holes 93 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: out there where we probably need to be on the 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: other side of the green, the backside of the green 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: when the pens in front or something like that. Links 96 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: golf by definition is not target golf, right, So we 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: are hitting conceivably shots nowhere near our intended destination where 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: the ball has to kind of trundle around, especially on 99 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: these green complexes that are so small. 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that this one's a little different 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: in that you get a lot of flat lies, a 102 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: lot of links golf course. 103 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: In the fairways for sure. 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: In the fairways, you can hit a really good shot 105 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fairway and it kicks and 106 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden balls above your feet, balls below 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: your feet. If you look at the last two winners, 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Padrick Harrington Jordan Speed, they are somewhat creative golfers, especially 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: Jordan Speed. He plays a lot through creativity. He plays 110 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot through putting in short game, putting in short game. 111 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: But Jordan, because of how he hits it sometimes off 112 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: the tee, he has to be really, really creative. And 113 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: I think one of Padrick Harrington's strengths was that he was. 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: He's a thinker. His imagination I think helped him when 115 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: he played in Won in two thousand and and eight. 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean the golf course, I mean it blew NonStop 117 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: for four days, all day, every day, and he hit 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: one of the most iconic shots you've ever seen in 119 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: the Open Championship eagle. I believe it was the fifteenth, 120 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: the seventeenth, the par five seventeenth, hit a five wood 121 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: to basically gimme range to make eagle. So we talked 122 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: about this about the US Open. I think the Masters 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: and the PGA are somewhat different than US Open and 124 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the Open Championship. Not a lot of par fives, and 125 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of the par fives, especially 126 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: on a links golf course, because those are the real, 127 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of only legit, real scoring chances that are really 128 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: really out there. Yeah. 129 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: I think back in two thousand and eight, you know, 130 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: I know Padrick Carington because he was the short game 131 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: leader for like six years at TPI with the short 132 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: game test they did back and yeah, we really talked about. 133 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: The Performance Institute out of Ocean Side. 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's kind of how I got introduced to 135 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: him in his game and then you know, we want 136 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: three majors in those early two thousands. But it kind 137 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: of seems like a similar game back then between Jordan 138 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen and then Hydra two thousand and eight, 139 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: both kind of sneaky, real crafty, imaginary short games that 140 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: bail them out of trouble. 141 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're kind of they're grinders, right, And I 142 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that Burkedale if you 143 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: look at the kind of guys that have been on 144 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: these leader boards there, they grind it out, they find 145 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: a way to win. They don't necessarily have the strengths 146 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: that people find kind of sexy, right distance power. The 147 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: strength that Jordan Spieth has and has had in his 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: major championship is I think his resilience making potts when 149 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: he needs to, you know. To me, when I look 150 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: at Padrick Herricter, who just won the US Senior Open 151 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: to win another senior major championship, to me, he is 152 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the ultimate ultimate grinder. He just finds a way to 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: grind it out. And I think the winners will make 154 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound kind of stupid, but they're going to 155 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: make a lot of pars. Right, Whoever wins this tournament 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: next week is going to throw a bunch of pars 157 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: at it. How you recover from bat shots, I think 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: the Open Championship always exposes your recovery game. Everybody in 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: golf is trying to work on their middle of the 160 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: fairway game, right, We've talked about this, We've done podcasts 161 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: about this. RC Recovery shots at Open Championships are vital 162 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: to getting your hands on the Cleric jug on Sunday. 163 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be uh, I'm gonna be testing a new 164 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: secret stat that we're going to debut for the British Open. 165 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: I'll keep it secret until next week, but essentially we 166 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: be able to determine how clutch a player is, and 167 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: it's based on the India analytics, what kind of recovery 168 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: shot they have. What they're scoring is relation to when 169 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: you have to kind of get out of dodge with 170 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: a pitch out or something like that. 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a stat that if everyone listening, the 172 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: regular average golfer would think, Okay, everybody wants to improve 173 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: their game off the tee. Everybody wants to hit more fairways. 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to improve their iron game, everybody wants to 175 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: hit more greens, putting short game, all of that, right, 176 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: But something that I don't think people ever really think 177 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: about as something that they need to improve on is 178 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: their recovery shot. How good can your recovery shots be? 179 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: And thinking about, okay, if I want to become a 180 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: better golfer and I want to improve my handicap, how 181 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: good can my recovery shot game become? And practice that. 182 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these little punch outs around trees, these 183 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: little punch outs out of bad lies, little curves, little draws, 184 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: little fades do somehow get you back on plan and 185 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: then maybe back into a preferred kind of greens and 186 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: regulation band with your wedge or maybe a nine iron 187 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: or something like that. 188 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: Before we get to the hardhole, talk to me about 189 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: what you feel like or the legit scoring holes. I 190 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: mean we talked about it. The par five fourteen seventeen 191 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: or the par five both more reachable with a good drive. 192 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can get on on these 193 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: greens and two if you hit a good drive. Yes. 194 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: What's interesting is I can't remember kind of the last 195 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: time we've had an Open Championship with like on a 196 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: course with new holes. 197 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: And that's really rare in that they've redesigned the fifth hole, 198 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: there's the new par five fourteenth, and then the fifteenth 199 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: is a redesigned par three two hundred and forty yards, 200 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: But the kind of DNA hasn't really changed. You've got 201 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: to be in position, you've got to be able to 202 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: control your trajectory, and you've got to be really really patient. 203 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: But the two par fives fourteen and seventeen, those are 204 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: ones where you've got to circle them on your scorecard 205 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: and say, I've got to try and take advantage there. 206 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fourteen New Green six hundred yards, so down 207 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: wind no problem for these guys. Cross wind maybe into 208 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: the wind practically impossible. So par is probably gonna be 209 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: a good score. Gone on fourteen seventeen. The other part 210 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: five a little bit shorter. I don't have the yard 211 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: is right in front of me. I'm seventeen, but yeah, 212 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: it's iconic at Haringing shot from two thousand and eight, 213 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: we're of a classic par three that's a little bit 214 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: shorter that those guys should be able to get on into. 215 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Just depends on the win. 216 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: When you're looking at holes out there to take advantage of. 217 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think of green light 218 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: holes as places where you're going to make birdies. But 219 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what we're going to see 220 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: next week is stringing together something that we talk a 221 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: lot about on the podcast, just throwing a bunch of 222 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: pars at it, and then if you do get a 223 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: good drive, if the wind conditions are good, then maybe 224 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: you can go into attack mode. Let's kind of identify 225 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: the hard holes. What do you feel like are some 226 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: holes that are the ones that everybody that's going to 227 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: be watching wants to take a look at number one. 228 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: For sure. 229 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: In professional golf, they kind of ease you into it 230 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: off the first hole, but Birkdale, I mean one in 231 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: your face. Yeah, it's not a soft opening hole. It's 232 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: out of bounds down the right. It's jumped up and 233 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: hitting people in the past where they start off with 234 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: bogey or double because they hit it out of bounds 235 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: off the tea. So what do you think is the 236 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: way to try and play the first hole? 237 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: Once we figure out the wind Man bogie and major championships, 238 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: as you know, bogies are gonna be okay. What we 239 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: can't have is to start your day off with a double. 240 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: So I think it's a little longer than one I 241 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: have here. It's probably gonna play close to five hundred yards, 242 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I believe without any win considerations, you're just gonna have 243 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: to figure out a way to get that second shot 244 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: somewhere where you can either get up and down or two. 245 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: But I can get out of there, all right. So 246 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: next hole that you think is one of the hard 247 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: ones out there? 248 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: What number five is this new part four that's shortened 249 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: it's three twenty. I got it up on the monitor 250 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: now it is a cool little green complex that we 251 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: didn't have in twenty seventeen. So I'm taking one look 252 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: at that green right there, and I don't see any 253 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: way I might drive from the tea can get on 254 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 2: that green. Be a really interesting hole because you could 255 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: conceivuedly lay back to one hundred yards or put it 256 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: to maybe just outside of seventy five and still have 257 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: to contend with one of the smallest screens on the course. 258 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: So that'd be a very interesting hole. 259 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what they do with you know, 260 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: where the wind is coming from. Do they give one 261 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: day to where they move the tee up or they 262 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: lead the tea there it's downwind and you will see, 263 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee you on the fifth we're going 264 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: to see some guys take driver. We're going to see 265 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: probably some big numbers there, and we're probably going to 266 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: see someone you know, make an eagle there by getting 267 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: it on the green and getting out of there with 268 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: the two yes. 269 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it'll be a great treat to watch that 270 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: hole early in the round. The sixth hole, I think 271 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: it's unchanged from tournaments past, but it's traditionally been the 272 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: hardest hole. Five hundred yards. It's going to be I'm 273 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: just reading what Spith did here back in twenty seventeen. 274 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: It's it's going to be tight. It's got this bend, 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: it's got some dunes that kind of camouflage to green 276 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: a little bit from the tee. 277 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: It's kerby. 278 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: It's a tiny little fairway too, you got to hit 279 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: and navigate, so again also a small green. It's just 280 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: a perfect links hole where distance doesn't quite help you. 281 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like Birkedale because unlike some of the 282 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: Open Championship where they can be somewhat flat and kind 283 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: of wide up in St. Andrews is like that. But 284 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: what I do like about Birkedale is similar to some 285 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: of the holes at Port Rush, kind of feel like 286 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: you're in this little valley to where there's a bunch 287 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: of mounds on either side of it, so you feel 288 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: like the spectators are kind of above you on these dunes, 289 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: and you can kind of get into these cool kind 290 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: of amphitheaters where the fans are kind of above you 291 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: and the fairways are kind of down, and then there's 292 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: all this mounding in the hills or to the right 293 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: or to the left, And I always think that's a 294 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: really kind of cool effect to look at the twelfth hole. 295 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, very simple, little part three unchanged. I think since 296 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: then we do and one hundred and eighty yards, I 297 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: can bring it up here in the monitor. See how 298 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: simple that par three is. 299 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Two bunkers on the front right side and a 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: big kind of mound and a hill on that right side. 301 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: There's a little bit more room on twelve over to 302 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: the left hand side where there's some runoff area there. 303 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: So depending on where they put that pin position on 304 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: the twelve, the front right pin position, the two bunkers 305 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: on the right hand side definitely going to come into play. 306 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's also a false front two in that 307 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: front sections from ten thousand and feet it doesn't look 308 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: as complicated, but when you get there, man, it's it 309 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: is true classic Links par three where you can't hit 310 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: where you think you want to ball to end up, 311 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: you got to put it somewhere else. 312 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think the Open Championship has some of the 313 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: great great par threes that are under one eighty range. 314 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think one of the things it everyone 315 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: loves about going over to play Links golf, but going 316 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: over to the Open Championship is I think one of 317 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: the hallmarks of tour golf today. Take a par three, 318 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: which they've done. They've taken a part three the fifteenth 319 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: and stretched it to two hundred and forty yards. But 320 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: I think the Open Championship always has some great par 321 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: threes that aren't necessarily be longest. They're not necessarily you know, 322 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: there's there's zero water on this golf course, right, so 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: the defense is the win the contours these bunkers. But 324 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: I always love Open Championship part threes because I think 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: it always shows us that you don't necessarily have to 326 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: make you don't have to over design holes, and you 327 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: have to stand up sometimes on these part threes. Had 328 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: an Open Championship and it just hit a good shot, 329 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: and a good shot is center of the green. 330 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. And twelve only playing one hundred and 331 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: eighty three yards. That's seven eight iron, nine iron for 332 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: some of the guys. But you just never know what 333 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: the win. 334 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: Eighteenth hole, the finishing hole at Birkdale. 335 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: Yes, five hundre rights right up to the clubhouse. Classic 336 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: Open Championship ending hole. I think I'm sure the Grand 337 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: Sands are gonna make it look spectacular again. It's gonna 338 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: be like a nice little amphitheater closing out the tournament. 339 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: I don't believe it's been changed, maybe lengthen since twenty seventeen, 340 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: but quite an iconic cool can bring get up here. 341 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: They've kind of reshaped the tea and one of the 342 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: things I really love about Birkdale is the kind of 343 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: cool old school art deco kind of white clubhouse behind 344 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: the eighteenth pole. I mean to me, it's one of 345 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: the really cool old school clubhouses where if you look 346 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: at you know Saint Andrew's obviously, you've got the RNA 347 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: building just to the left of it. You know some 348 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: of the venues it open champions Ip, you have these 349 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of old school kind of clubhouses, but this one 350 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: at Burkedale is kind of cool white art deco modern 351 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: clubhouse really does frame the hole there behind the eighteenth green. 352 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so and min as they have moved the eighteenth 353 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: tee to the left, which is interesting. That kind of 354 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 2: changes the angle on some of these bunkers that are 355 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to navigate. So it'll be a great finishing 356 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: hole for sure. 357 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: So let's kind of go through or see the skill 358 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: set that you need you need to be able to 359 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: control your trajectory when it gets windy there. Because the 360 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: proximity is so close to the water. You've got to 361 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: be able to flight your golf ball, control your golf ball. 362 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: You know, as you said week in and week out 363 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, the game and the ball it's 364 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: played through the air, right, who can carry the golf 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: ball the furthest off the tee, who can hit the 366 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: golf ball the highest, and who can hit their long 367 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: irons the furthest To come into these green complexes, you 368 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: get to an Open championship with wind links. The design, 369 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: trajectory control, I think is vite if you want to 370 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: win a Cleric jug. 371 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: I think it's a huge advantage for the players playing 372 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: at the Scottish Open this week that they can start 373 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: to get into that mindset. 374 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Scottish Open prep at the Renaissance Club kind 375 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: of a new modern links there. But when the winds 376 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: and the weather gets dicey there, I think the Scottish 377 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: Open has always been a really good test from a 378 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: link standpoint. Back in the day, the Scottish Open used 379 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: to be played at Loch Lomand, which was a very 380 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: one of the best conditioned golf courses in Europe very 381 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: much a parkland more American style, so it wasn't necessarily 382 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: the best test. But I think the Renaissance Club, you know, 383 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: just outside of Edinburgh good test link style. I think 384 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: another really important thing next week is position over power. 385 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: Yes, I was about to say I would not be 386 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: surprised if someone who finishes or wins the Scottish Open 387 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: is in contention next week. But yes, Vanessa, our power, 388 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna be under stressed for sure, betting on your draw. 389 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big factor. You know. 390 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: The yeah, late early, early late. 391 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: Open Championship is a long window, right. 392 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, so one t start, so they start 393 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: teeing off at you know early, really really early. The 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: sun comes up really really early there this time of 395 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: year in the UK. I mean it's pretty much light 396 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: until you almost ten o'clock at night. I remember at 397 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: Carnoustdavs worked with Trevor Immlman. He was a qualifier. One 398 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: day we teed off around i know, three four o'clock 399 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: for his first round and you know you're teeing off 400 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: late in the afternoon. But one of the cool things 401 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: about the Open Championship as well, when you're over there 402 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: and you're you're playing, or you're you know, you're involved 403 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: in the tournament, like you wake up first thing in 404 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: the morning, have a cup of coffee and basically just 405 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: sit in front of the TV and watch golf all 406 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: day long. We talked about it for the US Open. 407 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Pars a great score one, six, fifteen, eighteen, grind through 408 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: those holes with pars, then try and cash in on 409 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: the par fives. But stringing together a lot of pars really. 410 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: Important, really important three part fives. They're all going to 411 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: be a test. 412 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: What do you think is the risk versus reward thoughts 413 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure out what to go for 414 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: what not to go for, because I think that's recovery 415 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: shots we talked about earlier really really important. So that 416 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: risk versus reward, when to go for it, when to 417 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: take something on, when. 418 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: Not to It's going to be really difficult downwind and 419 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: into the win to take advantage of the course like this. 420 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: At the top of my mind, the key is when 421 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 2: you have the crosswinds. So if you have a potential 422 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: to kind of curve one back into the wind, draw 423 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: it until left to right. If you're a right hand player. 424 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: If you can kind of keep that ball straight into 425 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: these crosswinds, that'll be a huge advantage of the guys 426 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: who can kind of curve it like that both ways. 427 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: So the guys like the Speaks, potentially the Lowryes that 428 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: can kind of curve it into these crosswinds, it could 429 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: be good. And it depends on the win for sure. Right, 430 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: so there's an in and out, so it might be 431 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: the opposite coming down. It just gonna be really hard 432 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: to control the down wind shots, especially on this link 433 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: style course. 434 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: You talked about recovery shots in nineteen sixty one when 435 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Earl Palmer won there, he hit it in one of 436 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: these kind of BlackBerry gorse bushes, get a six iron 437 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: out of there and somehow manage to save part short 438 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: game around these type of golf courses. Shane Lowry's won 439 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: an Open championship. He's got an unbelievable short game. Patrick 440 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Reid has an unbelievable short game. One of my new students, 441 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Cam Smith's already got a declared jog. He's got an 442 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: unbelievable short game. The test or see that links throws 443 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: at your short game is what. 444 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: Yes, so you're gonna have these tight lines and a 445 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: lot of run potentially, and it's not a shot that 446 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: you can loft up right. It's a lot of bump 447 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: and run and a lot of kind of nuance. Got to 448 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 2: read the chips as well as the pets before you 449 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: get to the green, how the ball is gonna bounce up. 450 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: And then of course the bunkers. You're gonna either have 451 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: a great attempt out of a bunker or you're gonna 452 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: be next to one of the slopes because these are 453 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: old kind of classic pop style bunkers. 454 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: You hit it in bunkers and open championships. I mean, 455 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: bunkers are hazards by design, but you can hit it 456 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: in one hit. A pretty good shot just trickles into 457 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: the bunker and be in a position where you literally 458 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: have no shot. You have to sometimes think about going 459 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: sideways or backwards in some of these bunker complexes. 460 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just a whole new set of challenges where 461 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: you just can't rely on spin and. 462 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: Loft, and I think around the greens links, it can 463 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: get firm, it can get really really hard utilizing the bounce. 464 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: How much bounce to you use? Do you think there'll 465 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 1: be some players or see next week that will look 466 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: at maybe adjusting or changing their wedge setup. 467 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Traditionally you get a fresh sheet of 468 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: wedges for every major, and usually we see it kind 469 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: of the same models, and maybe they kind of grind 470 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: off a little bit of the bounce to keep that 471 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: contact the same versus what they've been used to take 472 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: off the bounce. It's gonna dig a little bit more, 473 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: but when you neutral out the firmness, it kind of 474 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: feels the same, like the same wedge you've had back 475 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: at home. At least a couple of grinds out there too, 476 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: Like some of the guys keep that leading edge a 477 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: little more blunter, but they make the whole wedge flat, 478 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: which helps kind of negate the bounce. And you'll see 479 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: guys that basically that are great short game players that 480 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: probably may not change anything. They're ready to play and 481 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: they can adapt to the different firmness of the Link 482 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: style course. 483 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: And then obviously to win a major championship, to win 484 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: a Open championship and lift the Clare judge, you have 485 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: to have composure down the stretch. Twenty seventeen, I mean jordan' 486 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Speith hit it sideways, it was crazy bogie on thirteen, 487 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: then played the last five holes in five under Bertie Eagle. 488 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: Bertie Birdie hidden it from the range, hitting it sideways. 489 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: It was such a great watch. 490 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see that style of 491 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: golf be able to win almost ten years later? To 492 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: have someone who basically doesn't hit it that good and 493 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: still be able to win. 494 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: I do not think so. I think you got to 495 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: be able to hit it pretty good. 496 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at where Jordan Speith was 497 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: hitting it in seventeen, I just don't think you can 498 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: bank on you know, twenty seventeen hit Burke Dale's obviously 499 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: famous for a lot of things, Jordan'speith, but that's also 500 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: the go get that to where he's hitting it sideways 501 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: and he hoops like a thirty forty footer. 502 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: It was such a great watch. 503 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: He's hitting it all over the place. And Matt Kocher, 504 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, another ultimate grinder, another guy who can throw 505 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of bars at you, Another guy who doesn't 506 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: have massive amounts of length throughout his career. Your It 507 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: was a great kind of battle between someone that wasn't 508 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: really hitting it that good someone who was hitting it 509 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: good and the guy who's hitting it all over the 510 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: place ends up winning the tournament. Yeah. 511 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: Wow, wild story. I don't think that can quite happen 512 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: in today's game, where everyone is just so good and 513 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: the guys that are rolling for the week are just 514 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: on top of it. 515 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: Lastly, RCI I talked about this. You can learn a 516 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: lot of things when you watch a major championship. I 517 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: think it's great viewing. I think if you love golf, 518 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: you're setting your clocks and you're gonna sit in front 519 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: of the TV as much as you can. But for 520 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: everyone listening, RC, what do you feel like players watching 521 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: the Open Championship after four days, at the end of 522 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: next week, we'll be able to look at and say, 523 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, I can take that and try and apply 524 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: that to my game. 525 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I know. If you're a young professional 526 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: watching these guys play, this is about your legacy as 527 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 2: a worldwide professional golfer, being able to adapt in all 528 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: these conditions. And if you're just a high handicapped type 529 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: of guy. 530 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: A regular golfer, just like I mean, we're all regular. 531 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: If you're not a professional golfer and you're not playing 532 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: on a tour somewhere you're a regular golfer, You're just 533 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: an app You're just like all of us. What do 534 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: you feel like, just the average week end golfer can 535 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: take from watching an Open championship and say I canna 536 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: apply that to my game. 537 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: You're gonna see a lot of creativity, a lot of 538 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: nuance in the shots, especially those short game shots. I think. 539 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot more options that you 540 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: may not have considered by watching these players play these 541 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: link style short game shots. So keep an eye on that, 542 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: keep an eye on the putting because the putting is 543 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: going to be so small, right, So we're gonna see 544 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: a lot of players in the same spots, So we'll 545 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: see a lot of the same players make the same reads, 546 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: and only the best you know will make them. But 547 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: I think the nuance will be all those creative type 548 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: of approach shots and short game shots that maybe you 549 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: didn't quite consider on your course that maybe you can 550 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: now go consider and play on your course if they 551 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: can are right. 552 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, if you look at the past champions at Royal Birkdale, 553 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a who's who of some of the greats in 554 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: professional golf. Some of the great old school legends have 555 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: won there. Who will lift the Cleric Jug? In twenty 556 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: twenty six, I will be there all week doing some 557 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: work with Camsmith and Lori Cantor. I can't wait to 558 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: get there. It's the Son of a Butch podcast. Enjoy 559 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Open Championship, the last major of 560 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: the year.