WEBVTT - “I HEAR THE CALL OF DEATH” 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.240 Hello, and welcome back to the Therapy Gecko podcast, or 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.840 welcome for the first time if you're listening for the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.040 first time. This is a gek irl episode, meaning that 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:15.880 I'm actually not alone in a dark room talking to 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.759 other people alone in a dark room. I am in 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.480 the center of one of the busiest parks in one 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.080 of the busiest places in the world, New York City, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.479 Washington Square Park. There's a lot of people around me. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.360 It's the evening time, it's a Friday night. I had 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.520 no other plans. I can't think of anything I would 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.920 rather be doing than right now than being here doing 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.280 this EI. There's nothing. What am I gonna do? I 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.520 go to a bar, talk to I'll talk to way 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.680 more people doing this than I would if I went 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.839 to the club. If I went to the club, the 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.280 amount of people I would interact with would be Maybe 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:58.880 I would maybe I'd be lucky if I talked to 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.120 one other person besides either myself if I went alone, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.480 or a friend. If I went with a friend. This 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.080 if I want this, This is the most social evening 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:13.920 I could realistically have for myself in New York City. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.919 So these are so for me. It's a solid Friday 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.520 night plan. Uh, we're gonna talk to some people. Normally 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.840 I just take phone calls, but today I'm gonna take 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.160 you know. So we're gonna try to do this once 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.559 a week to a weekly Gecko I r L episode, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.880 And we're gonna talk to some people. There's a lot 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:34.479 of people that want to talk. I'm not gonna get 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.840 to talk to all of them. I'll get to talk 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.960 to a few of them, and we're gonna be happy 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.399 with the ones that we did get to talk to, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.959 and we're not gonna get hung up with the ones 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:43.800 we didn't get to talk to. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:47.920 That's life for you. Okay, all right, let's talk to 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.000 some people. How's it going man? What's your name? 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.760 My name is Jay Jay. Nice to meet you, Jay. 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.480 What's going on, Jay? How's life? You know what? It's okay, 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.160 it's okay for the most part. Yeah. I just got 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.080 here like this is day, like seventeen in New York. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.760 Oh from where are you moving from? I came from Atlanta? 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.360 Oh cool? I love Atlanta. Yeah, you know, it's a 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.120 beautiful city. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.760 You know, I've got I've got mixed feelings about New 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:13.480 York so far. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.960 Okay, Well, why'd you come here school? Oh why am 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.480 are you all right? 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.560 Yeah? I was over at at Scatt doing film Yeah, 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.320 I know scad. Yeah, so this is like the I 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.040 kind of threw Nyu out as like a hail Mary 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.920 and you know, and I was like, oh shit, I 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.600 actually got in. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.840 So are you at Tish the film school? Yeah? 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.079 You know it was what Okay, I really got to know. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.520 So I went to film school. I went to Temple 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:42.800 University for film school. Graduated like five years ago something 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:49.000 like that, and it was absolutely uh. I mean it 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.959 was like the curriculum, it's so the experience I had 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.240 at college was great. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:56.560 I got to meet a lot of people, I got 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.359 to do a lot of stuff. I had a nice experience. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.520 But the actual curriculum, they don't really teach you how 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.399 to do anything. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.080 Yeah, what is films? 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:08.000 I mean film school is so outdated down Is that correct? 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:09.640 Is that right? I'm kind of hearing that. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.920 Like I think that most of what you get at 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.079 a film school is like connections and you know, meeting 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.040 like you know, people around you that will help you 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.239 out or whatever. But like I feel like with most stuff, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.400 you get like one class on it and it's like, hey, 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:23.440 here's lighting. 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.760 That's it, you know, and then we're not We're not 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:26.600 touching that again. 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:31.639 Right, So what's uh what's your like, dream man? 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.920 What do you want out of life? Uh? Oh? 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.840 I want to be in my crib just writing scripts 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.840 whenever I want, and then like to have enough money 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.400 so I could like day drink yeah, like a cashmir sweater, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.160 you know. Yeah, and then like after like a year 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.160 of like being like a hermit or whatever, yeah, I'll 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.120 come out and I'll be like, Okay, I'm gonna shoot. 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:53.480 This film now. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.400 If you can get drunk at one pm on a 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.640 Tuesday and no one's mad at you, I think that's 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.720 a wonderful financial goal to have, right. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.960 I think that that is like and I need to 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.680 be able to like go and like smoke with my 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:11.720 friends at like twenty twenty five, and it'd be like, yeah, 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.080 you know, we're we're creatives and we're together and we're 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:14.640 thinking and. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.600 Wait, wait, wait, wait, you need to be able to 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.840 go and smoke with friends at twenty twenty five, like 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:19.719 the ages. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.880 Yeah, and and not be like, oh, like what are 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:22.960 you guys doing with your lives? 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.440 But it's like, oh, we're decompressing, you know. Yeah, I 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:27.440 have been thinking about that. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.400 This is a topic I've talked to to death on 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.760 this podcast with like We Eat and STEPD. But wait, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.880 I always like that was a fantasy I always had 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.240 to especially when I was in high school. Yeah, was 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.599 like I loved the idea that I could get really 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:46.919 high and then work on something creative. And I realized 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.960 that here's the problem with that. I guess that I 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.960 found out is the fantasy of getting really high. At 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.200 The fantasy is that you get high, and that getting 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.240 high allows your brain. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:03.920 To effortlessly just produce. It's ever worked, right, and it 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:04.640 never works. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.159 No, And that's not because what Because here's the reality 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.120 I want to face is that making stuff is actually 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:11.240 a lot of fucking work. 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.279 Dude. Yeah, it's a lot of work. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.760 And some people are good at like getting really high 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.960 and it makes them more creative. And I've come up 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.839 with I've come up with good ideas right while I 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:22.880 was stone, But I've. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.800 Never a consistent like an end all be all. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:31.200 Getting high, Uh, to come up with ideas is one thing, 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:32.880 but you should I don't think. I don't believe in 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.200 getting high to execute ideas work. No, it's not a 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.279 good way to execute it. I've always and you know 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.839 what's funny is I've never I never learned this lesson. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.840 You know, I'm I'm twenty seven. 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.479 I've been getting high before for almost ten years. Right, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.520 I've been editing videos for like fourteen years something like that, 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.320 and the whole time, I've been like, you know what would 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.240 make this editing session more enjoyable is if I got 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.480 really were stoned. Yeah, and I get stoned, and then 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.480 I'm like, oh, I'm way too high to look at 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.919 a computer. And then the next day, and then I 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.320 the next day, I go, this time is gonna be different? 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:11.919 Right? And I do. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.159 I do that pretty much every day for fourteen years. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.120 I'm probably gonna do it later later on. I'm gonna 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.080 be like I did it for this. I was like, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:20.880 if I get high, this will be more fun. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.039 The day right before I left, my friends were like, hey, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.640 you know, we want to throw you like a little 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.000 going away party or whatever. And we're like, okay, you know, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.320 we'll shoot a short film. It'll be real, gorilla, you know, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.240 we'll do it in one day. We got there, we 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.240 had no s D card and we were like, oh fuck, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.400 what do we do now? So we just day drink 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.760 and man, that was literally a whole fucking. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.919 You know what, that's okay, you know what, that's okay. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.239 And it like and there were like other ideas pitched around. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.640 We were like we could use a different camera, you know, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.479 and we're like, oh, you know, we can't do that. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.520 Let's just let's just drink away. What your name is, Jay? 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.080 How old are you? Jay? I'm twenty? All right? Cool? 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:03.520 You know. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.200 But here's the thing. It's important to learn it's okay 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.280 to bail out. Sometimes it's there's like you gotta learn 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.080 when to bail out. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:13.040 Uh. 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.680 I didn't come out with this, but I was watching 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.880 shout Out this guy doctor K. You know, Doctor K's 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.640 like a YouTube guy. He's like a YouTube mental health dude. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.440 He was talking about how he how he works, uh, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.200 and he was like, I work consistently, but I never 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.480 dip into reserves. And when I heard that, that spoke 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.800 to me. It's just like if you're if you're if 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.680 you're like, oh I really were, This is not gonna work. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.680 Like something fucked up, your SD card is fucked up, 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.000 your computer's overheating. As long as you run of a deadline, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.720 it's okay. To to give in yeah now and then yeah, 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:47.160 Like there. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.760 Have been so many days where I feel like every 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.920 time that I push myself to, like if I'm at 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:53.920 the point of exhaustion, I'm like, oh, you know, let 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.560 me get these last words on paper. Almost always I 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.120 come back the next day and I'm like, this is 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.720 fucking gobbledygook. Yeah means nothing, right, right, I have to 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.160 come and do it anyway, right, right. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.560 I mean that's a well, especially because here's the thing is, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.360 like creative work is not measured in man hours. It's 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.160 measured in uh, you know, creativity and brain power, right, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.960 So you want to work within your optimal brain power. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.440 And if you're sitting and you're editing something, or you're 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.880 painting something, you're writing something, and you go past and 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.520 you're once, you're once you can feel physically that you're cooked. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.280 Yeah, just push yourself past that. It's dog shit. 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.240 You throw in the towel because what because the you know, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:38.240 you're leveraged, right, So, like thirty minutes of high brain 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.760 power work is going to be more valuable to you 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.240 than you know, three hours of cooked bullshit. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:45.880 Yeah, three hours of ass. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.199 Like I yeah, most of the time now, like I'm 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.160 and I'm trying to get better at that because most 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.200 of the time now, if I like really need to like, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.520 oh I need to remember this, I'll just make bullet points. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.360 I'll be like, yeah, this guy he says something along 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:58.040 these lines. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.720 I'm gonna go to bed now. So who do you 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.600 like in the film? 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.559 It's always a rough question because I always because I'm 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.200 a big comic fan, So I always say I love 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:13.320 James Gunn's work. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:13.880 Cool. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.200 Yeah, but uh, but then I think about those tweets. Man, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.240 what I he had some crazy tweets like not even 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.640 like a you know, like like oh you know, like 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.480 you know he could push past it, or like like 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.600 I he's got to earn that that ship back. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.720 I can't When what was he tweeting? 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.960 Yeah, I can't even you would get super demonetized. I'm 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:38.520 not gonna lie. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.800 Oh, I mean, you know whatever. But anyway, who cares 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.760 fucking well? All right, you like you like comic books. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.080 Yeah, I love comic stuff. James Gunn is like a big, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:49.920 big inspiration. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:50.600 Uh. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.080 I love Edgar Wright, I love uh cool David Leach 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.640 because I think that those three guys are like the 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:00.520 only three guys in Hollywood still that are like, I'm 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.679 gonna use all of the studios fucking money, right, we 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:07.120 need to fly to Antarctica right now for this shot. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.439 I need ten thousand dollars right now to do this. Yeah, right, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.520 And they're just doing dumb shit. They're just making fun 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.240 shit to watch. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.800 Yeah you got Yeah. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.160 I feel like it's if you've worked your career up 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.719 to a point where someone will just give you an 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.640 infinite amount of money to make something. 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.520 I don't know if that exists anymore. I don't think 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:26.080 that exists. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.800 I think that like the days are probably I feel 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.760 like like maybe ten times a year, five times a year, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:37.880 someone will get a lot of money to make a movie. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.520 But now it's all gonna be you know, you're gonna 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.120 be making movies on your phone. Man, You're not gonna 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.600 be making movies with like thirty thousand fucking people. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.400 Like That's and like it scared me a lot about 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:51.880 like getting into film because of like the way that 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.440 things are headed, not just because of like you know, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:55.880 like AI and shit like. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:56.760 That chat ebt. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.120 Because I'm like, my big thing is writing, but just 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.600 want to direct so that my vision like comes through properly. Sure, 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.520 but like, yeah, and especially with I feel like studios 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.160 are just way more risk adverse. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.480 Now we're not getting as much random shit. Yeah, but 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:14.360 again it's like. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.480 Studios, you know, I mean, like you can just make 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.680 your own movies and you put them on the internet. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.720 Oh yeah, that's what I'm trying to do now, right. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:30.559 Just I love over the last like two weeks or 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.080 so that I've been here and we've just had to 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.120 go out and film in like fucking ninety degree weather, Like, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.360 I fucking love that. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:38.480 I like that a lot. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:38.920 Yeah. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 Just yeah, let's just pick up tripods and and fucking 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.240 go film and yeah, you know, we're gonna be out 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.080 till like one two in the morning, and then we'll 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:50.000 go get drinks or something and it'll be great. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:51.200 But like, just do it. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.880 Just enjoy it, Enjoy, enjoy enjoy being in film school 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.640 and getting high and fucking around. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.200 It's a good time. Yeah. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.600 Like the idea of just making cool shit with your friends, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.240 like the people around you, because I've been blessed to 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.920 like I've got so many friends in film that are 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.560 like doing the same thing, and we're just ping, pauling 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.120 and ideas off of each other. It's it's great. It's 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.040 actually my favorite shit in the world. Like, I could 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.120 not imagine doing anything else but film. 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.920 You know, Jay, is there anything else? Do you wanna 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.520 get your name right? Yeah? Okay? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.800 Good names a lot? Is there anything else you want 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.040 to say to the people of the computer. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.800 Before Keep fucking making shit. That's really it. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.760 Just keep making shit and you know whether or not 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.520 you know, whether or not you've got money or or 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.160 I don't know, Make it real and then make it 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:39.000 that's the quote. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.480 Make it real and then make it good. Make it real, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.040 then make it good. I agree. I agree with that. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:44.600 Don't focus too much on making the thing good. 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.520 You gotta you gotta just make the fucking thing and 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.160 then if it sucks, you make another one. 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:49.680 Beautiful. Good to meet you, Jay. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.440 You look on your film, on your film career. You 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:57.920 want to talk what's your name and what is it? 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.679 And how's life. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:00.480 Going in it's going? 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:00.680 Well? 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:01.640 Are these even on? 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.000 Yeah, they're on, they're not projecting. 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.040 I've had I've had a guy sit down here once 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.840 and like tried it, like he was singing. He was 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.040 really fucked up and he was singing, and he was like, 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.160 how you got to turn up the amps, and I 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.920 don't think he understood that this is I'm recording a podcast. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.400 So why are you doing this? 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.280 I'm gonna I'm gonna try to give you a really 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:23.679 good answer to that. I'm gonna try to give I'm 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.320 gonna look into my soul for the truest answer to 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:26.760 that question. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.439 Why am I doing this? I'm doing this for a 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.160 am I saying this word right? Myriad? 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:38.760 I'm doing this for a myriad of reasons. One, it's 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:43.360 my job. It's a just how I make a living 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:47.360 as I make podcasts. Uh, that's that's most of the reason. 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.400 I think a lot of people do a lot of things. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:50.280 Uh. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.400 Two, it's really fun. It's a great way to meet 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.520 new people and. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:00.360 Uh experience, you know what. I actually I constantly audit 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.680 my life. I don't know if you do this, but 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:04.760 I audit my life. I think about that I only 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.439 get to live one time. You know, what's the best 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.000 possible thing to do with my life? 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.880 And how far? How far is that from what I 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:14.559 actually do? 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.720 And I was thinking, I'm like, you know, be dressing 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.920 up as a gecko and interviewing people around the world 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.160 and in New York and whatever. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.040 I can't think of a better thing to do. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:23.320 You know. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.040 It's it's like, I'm not gonna like go into finance 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.560 or be a fucking you know what. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:29.960 I don't. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:31.600 I can't think of a better thing to be doing 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.320 with my time right now. I could be raising a child, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.200 but I don't want to do that right now. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:41.200 I'm twenty seven. How old are you? I'm twenty very cool. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:42.320 What do you? What do you do? 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:43.760 I work in finance? 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:49.040 Oh sorry, my bad, my be do you but walcome? 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.280 But you picked it for some reason. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:52.920 I picked it because it pays the bills. But I'm 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.560 sure this pays the bills and I could be doing 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:55.520 this and this is awesome. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:56.840 Yeah, you could be doing this. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.840 This is this is only this suit is like Actually, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.040 the suit's gotten more expensive. It used to be sixty bucks, 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.800 now it's nineties. No, it's the same suit. It just 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.200 is inflated. Oh okay, I'm not saying I had anything 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:07.800 to do with that. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.040 But you got a good deal on it. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.680 Look at you. Oh no, this is the. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.840 I've This is probably the thirty fourth one that I've 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.360 bought over the past five years. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.560 Five years, yeah, something like that years. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.680 For five years. How long have you been doing finance. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:22.160 I just started. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.800 Okay, I have to imagine I know, you know, I 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.480 actually feel bad about what I said because I have 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.360 to imagine that in the Finance universe, it's gotta be 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.440 at least you ever seen Breaking Bad. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.200 I don't like Breaking Bad. I know it's a hot take. 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.360 Why don't you like Breaking Bad? 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:37.760 The minority that don't? 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.760 I wanna wait, tell me why I don't like Breaking Bad? 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.920 Then I'm gonna finish the someone hates on Skyler. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.240 Everyone hates on Skyler for no reason. She's a cool 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:49.120 She's a cool girl. I like Skyler. I like the wife. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.520 I think it also, it gets monotonous, like the characters 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.880 like Walter will always be bad. Oh no, you know 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.440 what I mean, Jesse will always be like it's like 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.320 a trope. It just keeps going and going. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.760 It's like predict So I was okay, So here's why 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.760 I brought up Breaking Bad. It begins to bring it 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:05.280 back to everything we were just talking about. Is like 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:06.280 the Finance world. 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:06.560 Right. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:12.880 There's a scene so throughout Breaking Bad which Skyler discovers 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.960 that Walter. Okay, So for those who don't know Breaking Bad, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.600 it's about this guy who like gets cancer and starts 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.640 selling It's like a chemistry teacher gets cancer and he 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:29.200 starts selling math to like support his family, and it's 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.240 high quality math, and it's high quality math and so 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.200 and the whole time, the fact that high quality math 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.640 is important because the whole time, like when Skyler is 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.240 giving him shit about like like what you're doing is 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.960 so dangerous, and he's trying to justify his actions. In 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.040 the whole series, he's trying to justify his actions by going, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.920 I'm doing it for the family. He goes, he goes, well, 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:51.720 he goes, I'm doing it for the family. I'm doing 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.320 for the family. And then there's one point where Skyler 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.520 goes and don't say you're doing it for the family, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.880 and he goes, you know what, I wasn't doing it 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.200 for the family, And he goes, I was doing it 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.560 because I was good at it. And I have to 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.679 imagine there's gotta be at least some people in the 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.400 finance world who, if you ask so about it, are 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.679 not like I just did it for the money. I 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:17.800 just do or maybe they they maybe it started I 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.040 was just winning it for the money, and now it's 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.239 like I do it because I'm good at it or 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.280 just or just you know, I do it because it's 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:24.800 what I do. 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.280 You know, I don't even think I'm good at it. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:28.920 I think my talents are wasted. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.080 What are your talents that you feel as you're wasting? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:31.680 I don't know. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.199 I'm a very fast walker. If that was a sport, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:35.680 i'd be an awesome athlete. 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.879 It is a sport, but you gotta go a little bit. 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.960 You gotta go fast enough that they call it running. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.720 I haven't explored all my talents to have really known 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:44.919 whether or not it's been totally wasted. I mean, but 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.359 you've explored yours. Can I ask you why the gecko? 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.240 Do you get that a lot? 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:55.399 The real answer is uh, kind of complicated and boring, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.280 But I'll give you a fun answer. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:58.800 No, I want to know the boring answer. 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.240 No, I the boring answer it's too Is it emotional? No, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.280 it's that No. If it were emotional, it wouldn't be boring. Okay, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.199 I was gonna give you a fake answer that was 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:08.960 more emotional. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.680 I think I want the boring answer. But you're welcome 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:13.679 to tell me whatever you'd like. 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:18.760 So you're majoring in finance, you're not gonna tell me no, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.240 I'm probably not gonna tell you, but I I'm after you. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:28.160 Sure I can tell you after Okay, okay, So are. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:28.760 You going to n YU? 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:30.720 I graduated school already? 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:31.160 Oh you did? 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:31.400 Yeah? 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:32.879 Wait you're only twenty. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.399 Yeah, I know it's a huge thing. Oh no, no 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:35.719 it's not. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.960 No, no, no, it's so it's but what's what's the deal 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:38.840 with that? You graduated? Yeah? 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:39.560 Graduated early? 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.480 Did you take a lot of AP courses? 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:41.800 No? 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.719 I just did it in three years, six classes, summer classes, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.480 bunch of classes. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.560 Whatever. How hard do you have to work for three 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:48.280 years to do that? 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:54.200 Not that hard, It's not that hard. No, anyone could 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.400 do it anyway. It's like college is like, you don't 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.080 need to do it for the full four years. They're 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.760 just doing it to milk you. Okay, am I taking 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:01.560 up too much of your time? 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.159 No, we're just jok Was there something else you were 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:06.119 thinking about majoring in? 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.720 I majored in psychology for a little bit. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:11.840 Oh really, wyt just drop psychology? 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.919 I dropped psychology because I like went through a phase 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.679 of really liking perfume and bras and my parents were like, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.959 you love expensive things, like yeah, I do, And then 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.919 they made me feel like a poor person if I 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:24.840 did psychology. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:27.280 So I was like, all right, fair enough? 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah no, And. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.920 I there are certain I have, Like there's certain things 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.080 like I don't cook. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:37.480 I just like I don't. 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.159 I just like go and I get like I I 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.440 go to the grocery store and I get uh sushi, 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.520 like the little grocery store sushi, and I get a 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:50.879 rotisserie chicken. And I'm like, Okay, now I need to 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:56.600 have enough money to afford my rotisserie chicken and grocery 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.399 store sushi. You know your lifestyle and flates. Yeah, grocery 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:04.600 store sushi and uh a rotisserie chicken are my perfume 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:05.280 and bras? 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:05.680 Yeah? 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.440 And it's like, yeah, you're you're why do therapists? Therapists 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.080 make some money, don't. 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.119 They're all right, it's a it's a good struggle for 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.879 a good five six years, but they're right. Did you 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:16.520 go to college? 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:17.760 I did go to college. 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:18.440 Where did you go? 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.879 I went to Temple University for film school. I was 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.600 just talking to the previous gentleman about film school. Yeah, 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:29.080 what the hell was I going to say? 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.879 Oh? Yeah, how much money? Uh is enough for you? 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:34.399 How much money do you think you need to? 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:36.840 I don't know. I'd say, like, my goal in this 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.719 life is probably two hundred. To max out at two 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:44.400 hundred a year, yes, thousand a year, yeah, all right. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.480 To wait to max out at Yeah. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.200 I think at the height of my career that would 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:48.760 be a goal for me. 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.840 Very cool, two hundred. So what is like? So what's 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:52.440 the future like? 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.840 Are you gonna be like in like a Manhattan high rise, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:56.719 like telling people to run the numbers? 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:57.200 I don't know. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:58.600 I think I want to go to I Live. I'm 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.800 from Boston. I think I want to go there. Okay, 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:05.040 Chestnut Hill Country Club, take care of my parents. 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.560 Okay, you want the whole, you want the whole? You 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.520 know what? Can I say something? Okay, I I I 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:11.000 said this. 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.200 I'm not being the slightest. She's facetious. I think I 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.480 respect openly admitting wanting to be rich. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.760 I don't Yeah, okay, I'm gonna say something about this. 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.600 Go ahead, this is a hot take, and take if 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.000 you go ahead, whatever it is. 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.600 I think people that are gold diggers like get too 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.920 much hate. I think they get too much hate. I 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:34.600 hate to say I'm not saying openly I'm a gold digger, 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:36.399 but I think they just get like to. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.680 Like, you know what, yeah, shut out to you? 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:43.879 Well, a gold digger like uh, like okay, a gold digger, 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.280 I feel like it's traditionally a gold digger would be 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:51.280 somebody who like is in like some form of romantic 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.399 relationship with somebody. For are you using it like that 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.400 or using it or using gold digger as a catch 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:00.399 all phrase for anyone who is acting who actively choose 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:01.680 money in any form. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.960 I think I meant the first, the former. 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.160 The former, Yes, okay, would you prefer to just marry Rich? 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:07.840 No? 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.600 Actually, okay, I would like to marry Rich. That's fine, 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.200 fine my me. I don't like care. I think I 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.280 want to be able to hit a certain point where 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:17.920 I have enough money to do what I really want. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.440 What do you really want? 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:19.840 I don't know. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:21.400 I think I want to start a business. I want 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:22.280 to do something cool. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.840 Here's a problem I want to tell jam And here's 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.399 here's a problem. I'm gonna tell you. The problem is 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:31.040 that uh, actually I I sort of I sort of 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.200 eat these words, but I do I have been thinking 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:33.600 about them. 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:37.840 Is when you kind of I think, like, uh, when 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.560 you delay a thing where you're like okay, once I 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.960 have enough money. What was on my head? 0:22:45.000 --> 0:22:45.280 Sorry? 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.439 Oh it's okay. Wait is everything all right? 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:47.760 Yeah? 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.399 I just want to I just want to know if 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:51.560 it was like squishy. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:51.680 That's okay. 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:52.000 It is. 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:57.440 When you delay keep going a thing like oh I 0:22:57.480 --> 0:22:59.400 want to start a business, but I need enough money 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.520 to do it, I feel like like you keep moving 0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:04.080 the goalposts a little bit. 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.879 I do. I found I found that in my life, 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.440 and here we are, and here we are, and you've 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.439 done it. Although I found you know I found here, 0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:13.840 I'll tellt you. I'll tell you this. I found that 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:14.440 in my life. 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:19.280 Although I there are there have been I will say 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:22.240 certain things that I wanted to do where I was like, Okay, 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:25.560 once I'm at this particular point in my life, I'll 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:29.560 do this. And it did actually work that way where 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.680 I did. Where once I was at that particular point 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:32.960 in life, I will I. 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:34.000 Will do this. 0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.840 I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something, and maybe since 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.240 you're here and you're talking to everyone, maybe you'll give 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.960 me your feedback. Go ahead, And I think lately, don't 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:43.760 freak out when I say that. 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:45.639 I'm not gonna freak out. Go ahead, or I might 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:46.600 but you might freak out. 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.800 I think death has been calling my name in my sleep. Uh, 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.680 you're so regretting me inviting inviting me on this chair 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.920 right now. Uh that that doesn't free I tell me 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:58.879 what your thoughts are on that. 0:23:59.240 --> 0:23:59.920 It's very funny. 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:01.760 I hear you say that that might freak me out, 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.040 because all I fucking talk about on this podcast is 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:07.400 existential anxiety and death and whatnot. 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.800 Okay it why do you why is death calling your name? 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:10.960 Oh? 0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.639 My gosh, I just ever since my uncle died like 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.520 earlier this year, shout out to him. It was just 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.639 like it kind of felt it creeping up on me. 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.399 Like sometimes I'll have like still moments and you can 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.640 really feel time and like nappiness of it. But also 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.800 how fast, how fast it's going. 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.680 Yeah, it's a little it's a little terrifying. 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.000 And I feel like I feel this sense that there's 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.560 like death looming over me, almost like a cloud, like 0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.679 a cloud looming over me, and it's death and it's 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.560 calling me, and it's saying, are you gonna pick up 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:40.920 the phone? 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.520 Well, well, I mean you die every day. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:45.880 What do you mean? 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.720 Death is not a thing? Death is not one singular event. 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:53.919 It's every day. I'm making such a bubber. But uh, 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.000 it's you die a little bit every day. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.480 Every day you're a day, you're a second older, you 0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.720 creep a little bit, You're at you. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.920 Like life is a terminal illness. Yes, it's such a 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.399 I gotta stop being so nihilistic. 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:08.600 But what's fair? 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.720 But okay, when you say death is calling your name, 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:14.720 does that mean like you think you're going to die soon, 0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:16.960 or you've just been thinking a lot about death, or 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.000 you want to kill yourself. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:19.639 I don't want to kill myself. Okay, it's not a 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.879 suicidal thing. I'm not Okay, I'm not suicide. It's sounds 0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.640 like a depressing thing. It's just like, uh, it's more 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.520 like I can kind of see an hourglass and the 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.440 sand is sifting down, and every minute I can feel 0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:35.080 the sand sifting down, and it's like part of me. 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.879 When I first felt this, I felt like so angry 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.480 to have been given the gift of life and like 0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.800 how good it is and sweet and amazing and lovely. Yeah, 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.600 and I almost felt like betrayed. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:47.320 Yeah, and it's all going to like. 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:49.280 Go like, why what the fuck am I? 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:50.000 You know what I mean? 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:50.199 Ye? 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:51.359 Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:56.080 Okay, you actually, Uh, what you are talking about is 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.240 the most persistent thought I have been having for the 0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:59.840 last six months. 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:01.520 You enjoy your life? 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:02.159 Uh? 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:07.040 Sometimes I do. Sometimes sometimes I'm like that. Sometimes I 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:09.240 hear death. Sometimes I feel what you just described. I 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:13.199 feel death calling over me, and I'm like, we had 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:13.720 a good round. 0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:15.040 Let's just get it over with, you know. 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:15.760 I know something. 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.960 Yeah, I was on Reddit the other day. I love Reddit, 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.240 and I was on Reddit and this one guy is 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.560 asking his grandfather like, what does it feel like to 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:25.080 grow old? 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:25.800 To age? 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.760 And the grandfather says to him, it's. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:34.720 Like taking a shower, yes, and and the water colder 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:35.040 and cold. 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:36.160 You know exactly what I'm talking. 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.080 Yeah, I saw the same Reddit post, however long ago 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:43.200 that was. I think about that red post very often. Yeah, 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.280 I know the exact redit post. Yeah that that spooked 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.359 me a little bit. But you know it's funny. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.960 Here's the thing. But fuck that guy, because. 0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:53.360 That's a really good analogy. 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:54.440 That's yeah. 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.640 But yeah, but that's one guy, right, Like I talked 0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:59.560 to my I talked to my dad about death a 0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:03.240 little bit. Yeah, and my dad was like, you know, 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.920 the older I get and the less time I have 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.000 on this earth, the less anxious I am. He was like, 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.000 I'm in my I'm having like an existential crisis, and 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.320 I'm in my dad's I'm in my basement at my 0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:16.960 dad's house. 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.879 And and he's like practicing his putting. 0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.560 He's been playing golf for like thirty years, and he's 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.960 like fucking doing like a practice swing. And he's talking 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:26.639 to me, and he's like, Yeah, the less time I 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.160 have on earth, the less anxious I feel. 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.320 When I was young, I had so many problems. Now 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.440 don't I don't really have any problems. 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:34.680 You know. 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:39.600 Louis c k does this bit where he's like, you know, 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.800 I'm fifty two years old. I feel pretty good. When 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.320 you're young, it's hard you have. You know, if you're twenty, 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.600 you've got about fifty to sixty years to not be 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.680 homeless or alone during Yeah, but the older you get, 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.480 you're like, all right, we're just get We're getting there. 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:54.920 Pretty good, We're. 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:56.400 Getting there, you know, where are we going? 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.880 I also like, I see, well, I see older people 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.000 all over the city too, and doing great. 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.159 I'm not afraid of aging. That's kind of how I 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:07.800 like made the distinction in my head. It's like, I 0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.960 see older woman I love I love older women. 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.480 They don't get me doing so well, right, they're not 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:14.639 having existential crises. 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.520 But it's like the sleep. It's the sleep. 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.640 It's like the nothingness that kind of kills me a little. 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:22.120 It's true. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:28.359 Well, I think we're both in the same boat. You 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.080 don't have to impart any advice on. 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:35.720 Me, isn't This isn't advice. This is just we're just pondering. 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:40.040 But I was talking to a friend about that. Yeah, 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.440 I've been talking everyone. Yeah, I've been talking everyone about this. 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.480 You know, we've been dead for like ever. We've been 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.680 dead for infinite time. We've been dead for billions of years, 0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.840 so the fact that we're gonna be dead for billions 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.120 more is fine. 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.000 We're actually more used to being dead than we are 0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:05.240 to being alive, so it's gonna be a fine. You know, 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.880 we were not. We spent way. 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.760 More time being Are you prepared to die? 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:13.720 I'm prepared to die if you. 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.960 If I had to die tomorrow, i'd be terrified, But 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.080 I did a I'm very happy with how I like 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.280 have spent my life thus far. I'm like, it's the 0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.360 greatest blessing I could possibly have. As I'm feeling. I 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:30.320 feel extremely content with how my twenty seven years have gone. 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:35.240 They've been They've had plenty of times of like a 0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.000 terror and anxiety and depressed fear and depression, a lot 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.360 of bad things, and a lot of sadness and whatnot, 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.360 but also just such incredible uh charm and joy. 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.800 You know, So, I don't I have no regrets. I 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.320 mean I I have a few. I have a few regrets. 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:50.760 I regret. 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:56.160 I regret anytime that I was an asshole. I regret 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.360 times in the future that I might be an asshole. 0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.200 What was the most asshole thing that you've done? 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:01.800 Who knows? 0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.000 But I regret anytimes I was an asshole. I kind 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.320 of regret times that I was that I was worried, 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:09.800 but not even really that was just part of it. 0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:11.880 I mayly regret times of an asshole more than I 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.840 regret times that I was worried, because the worrying was 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:16.320 part of the journey. 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.920 The journey. Yeah, do you have any regrets? I mean, yeah, 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:21.440 do you have any regrets? 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.640 I think I'll I have a few regrats. I'd say, yeah, 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.840 anytime I've been an asshole. Oh, God, I'm such an asshole. 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.760 But when were you an asshole? Well? 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.440 I can't say that because you didn't even answer mine. 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.120 You just subtly swiched. 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.480 Hold on, actually, let me try to remember the last 0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.560 time I was an asshole, uh to someone. 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.800 I don't know I've been I could remember, I don't. 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.440 I'm trying to remember specific things. But I've been terse 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:54.600 to people, you know the word turs like uh like fast, 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.840 like yeah, rude, yeah, yeah, I've been addiced sometimes. 0:30:58.880 --> 0:30:59.120 Sure. 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.480 And I think and anytime I was a dick, it 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.200 was because I was angry. But I was never a 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.000 dick because I was angry about the thing. I was 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.320 a dick because if something else that I was upset 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:10.720 by that was outside of. 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:14.280 The Yeah, when you're angry, it's like, okay, I'm an 0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.440 angry person. I can I can be an angry person. 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.240 I'm calm like ninety five percent of the time. Five 0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.680 percent of the time I'm like really angry for some reason. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.960 You're just like constantly reading me as we keep going. 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.720 And I think that being angry, it's it's more about 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.640 something that's unresolved within yourself, right, I mean, call me 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.520 spiritual or whatever. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:36.200 But truly, like. 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.360 Truly, I think like, if you're angry, there's just something 0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.040 wrong and you're angry with yourself and this is just 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.560 a reflection and how you're you're showing it to the 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:46.280 external world. 0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.240 Oh, I fully agree, but it's not true anger. Yeah, 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.800 Oh I fully yeah, I fully agree. 0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:54.120 I think if you're to be angry at the anytime 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:57.840 I've been angry at the external world, it's usually because 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.720 of like I'm a bad like what like, if I'm 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:02.840 in a good mood, I don't give a shit about 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:07.600 fucking anything. I know, there's nothing that could piss me 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:13.000 off really if I'm in a good mood, you know. 0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.680 So those are the things I would regret, is times 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:16.840 where yeah, I was an asshole. 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.520 But the aging thing is interesting. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.360 I mean, look at like, you know, I think about 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.520 it's like look at like I'm mean, look at like 0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:22.240 the president. 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.320 He's like seventy nine years old or whatever. 0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.040 Like still going he's seventy nine, and he's acting like, 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.680 I mean, for better or for worse, but he's acting 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.440 like he's just never gonna die, you know. Yeah, I 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:36.520 want like, like how often does he fucking think about 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:38.000 the fact he's gonna die. He's probably gonna die in 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.840 the next like, you know, his time's fucking coming. But 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:42.520 I don't know if he ever thinks about it, you know, 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:46.400 or look at like uh, or look at like Bernie Sanders. Right, 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.640 he's like eighty three, and he was just on stage 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.680 at Coachella. Yeah, he was at Coachelle. He's on stage 0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.280 at Coachella to talk about you know, all of his things. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.480 And he's still working. He's still doing yeah things. 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.400 It's hilarious, but you know, like and it time. 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.200 It's funny. The people who are having existential crisises tend 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:09.080 to be younger people. Older people are just shown. There's 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.720 there's like seventy five year old dudes at this park 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.480 just reading the book They're gonna die soon and they're 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.520 not thinking, oh I'm gonna die soon, and they're just. 0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:19.960 I think the more you grow old, the more you 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.760 kind of accepted it and you don't care. You're less 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:23.240 care free. 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.000 Yeah, yeah, like you're dad. Yeah, I think my dad 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:28.400 is I was kind of accepted it. 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:30.640 He's kind of I think so, yeah, I think shower's 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.880 gone cold, and he's like, all right, I'm sorry. 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.120 No, no, no, no, I don't well I don't think 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.280 his shower has gone cold. 0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.320 It's why I don't necessarily agree with the showernology. 0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.080 Yeah, I don't think a shower is going col. I 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.560 think he's enjoying life. Yeah. 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.920 Like, I was hanging out with my uncle yesterday. He's 0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.240 like sixty something. We were talking about I made this. 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.360 People listen to the podcast might know that I made 0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.520 this video about, uh, you know, having an existential crisis 0:33:57.600 --> 0:33:59.400 and death. And I was talking about all these things. 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.520 My uncle saw it and we were like talking about it, 0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.120 and I was like and I was talking to him 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:05.240 and I was like, what do you think happens after 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.000 we die? And it was like, oh, I don't know. 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.640 I'll figure that out when it happens. It was like 0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:12.719 it was like the second I asked him was the 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.239 first time he thought about it? 0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:15.120 Yeah? 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.640 Was Actually it was as if the second I asked 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.520 him was the fourth time in his entire fucking life 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:22.239 you'd ever thought about it. 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.000 You didn't even consider it, didn't even consider it. 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.440 And I'm like, that's that's insane to me. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.120 I've been considering it ever since I was a little girl. 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:29.440 Ye. 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:30.680 Actually, it's spooky. 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.520 Maybe I've always just been like that. Maybe I'm just 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.560 two in my head. Some people they don't consider it 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.239 at all. I know your uncle is one of them. 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:37.680 I know incredibly lucky. 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.640 Don't you. You know what's funny is sometimes I like, 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:42.920 I'll meet someone like that. 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:45.719 You know you're like a care free person. 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:47.759 Yeah, you meet someone and you're like, I can you've 0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:52.080 never how have you a problem? How can you be 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.080 a conscious being even if you're like, even if you 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.200 have the best on paper quality of life, I don't 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.640 know how you can be a conscious being that's never 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:04.520 experienced some some sort of like some form of like 0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:08.880 a profound uh sadness and you And maybe I'm being projective, 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.839 but yeah, you meet people like that right where you're 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:12.799 like you never thought? 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:13.600 Do I think a lot? 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.200 A thinker? 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.880 Yeah, I'm thinking all the time. I'm always thinking. I 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:24.240 consider myself. It's weird. Sometimes I feel actually very carefree, 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.720 and then other times I feel uh, very anxious. 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:27.640 Do you do you think a lot? 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.600 I think all the time. I'm trying to think less though. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.799 I think it might be beneficial for me to think less. 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.719 How's your maybe for you too, I'm also trying to 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:38.759 think less. Yeah, the pros and cons Yes, you know 0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:47.719 I was talking to Yeah, there's people I have in 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.759 my life who think who I don't. I don't think 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:54.000 they think a lot, uh, but they live and they 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.680 tell me you should think less, And I'm like, it's 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.080 probably true. There's an optimal amount of concientiousness to happen. 0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:02.879 When you were younger, were you always thinking a lot? 0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:03.680 Yeah? I remember. 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:05.960 I think this is a right of and you probably 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.680 had maybe had the same thing happened. This is the 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:15.080 right of passage for all uh crazy existential people is everyone. 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:19.960 Can you remember a time where you maybe like walk 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.920 up in the middle of the night and you went 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.880 into your parents' room and you were like, yeah, I 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.520 remember this kid like growing up in the Uh you 0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.080 wake up, you get your parents' room and you're like, 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.480 mom and dad just realized that one day I'm going 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.239 to die. And I remember my mom going, oh, but 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.879 that's not going to happen for a very, very long time. 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:39.799 Did that happen to you that. 0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:42.160 Yeah, that's happened to me a few times. 0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:45.279 Yeah. Yeah. Do you talk to your parents about death? 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.120 Oh my god, I told them what I just told you. 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:50.359 Death is calling my name. 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:50.600 Mom. 0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.840 Do you think I should pick up the phone and 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.120 were She's a very religious person. I come from a 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.640 religious family, and so we had a priest ob one time, 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:02.839 read a priest over one time. And she pulls them 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.800 aside and she like says this in the most like 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.520 ominous way possible, and she's like, my daughter has a 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.760 little problem. Can you just bless her for a second. 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:13.759 And he like he's like bowed your head down, and 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.680 he like does a prayer over me and he blesses me. 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:17.600 And that was that. 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.799 And then she's like, all right, you're good. 0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:22.719 Did you feel better? 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:23.399 I feel better? 0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:24.920 Did do you think the prayer worked? 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.720 Another part of me was thinking, like maybe I've been possessed. 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:31.480 Maybe what religion were you? 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:32.320 I'm Catholic? 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:33.200 Uh? 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.919 Do you still identify with Catholicism? 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:37.120 I got a yeah. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.960 I believe in God really, but I'm I'm open to 0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.200 other you know, debates and interpretations. 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.040 Wait, so okay, So, as a. 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:49.120 As someone who thinks a lot about these existential topics 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.799 and about death and whatnot, how do they, uh, how 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.000 do you think about them through the lens of your religion. 0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.600 I've actually never that's a good question, and I've never 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.200 thought about that. Afterlife you know how I interpret it 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.799 as lights out, lights off, you're done, it's over. 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:07.399 I don't. 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.600 I've never really considered the idea of a heaven. I 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.000 think we created a heaven so that we can feel 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:14.439 better when our people die. 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:14.839 Yeah. 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:18.120 Yeah, but I personally, like, I don't think I'm embarking 0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.120 on that. I don't think that's going to be there 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:21.640 for me, you know what I mean. I think we're 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.680 all kind of like it's over. I believe in God 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.640 in the sense of, like, you know, there's something cosmic, 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.280 there's something watching over us for the time we're alive. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.439 Well, okay, you think there's something watching over us? Yeah, 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:34.600 what do you think that is? 0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.400 I think it's God. I think it's a god up there, 0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:39.960 like an entity, Yes. 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.440 Like a monolith, like a monolithic entity, like it's controlled 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:43.879 by one. 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.960 Yeah, and you can pray to it, you can ask 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:47.880 him for whatever. 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:53.680 Do you believe in, like a traditional like omnis omni omnipotence, omnipotent, omnipotent. 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:56.440 I wouldn't. 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.799 Okay, I'm not god fearing. Some people like, oh, I'm 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:00.279 a God fearing woman. I'm from this out. 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.560 No, No, you can't. I don't fearing God is stupid. 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.120 I'm not a god fear. I mean shot out to 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:05.680 anyone who is. 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:06.560 But that's just not me. 0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.960 I just I believe that there's something watching over us, 0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:12.960 and I believe that if you ever need something but 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.000 it can't be material, I'll tell you how I pray. 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.799 Maybe that'll be easier. I'll tell you how I pray. 0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.759 I don't ever ask for like a material object or 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.920 for something to happen, Like if I want to study 0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:24.799 for a test. I'm never like, oh, I want an 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.759 a I'm asking for Oh I want the knowledge, or 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.560 I want the discipline to study. If I wanted to 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.560 pass the job interview, I don't wish to pass the 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.799 job interview. I wish that the interviewer has kindness and compassion. Sure, 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.280 I wish that you know I've had while rested sleep, 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:43.040 you know what I mean. 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:48.080 It's the classic God, give me the whatever, the yeah, 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.920 the courage, the courage to Yeah. It's like, you don't 0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.000 want the things, give me the things to take on 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.120 the things. But do you do you believe that there 0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.840 is an entity that is receiving those prayers and bestowing 0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:01.440 the things upon you externally. 0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.400 I think part of it is the entity. And I 0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.160 think part of it is by me saying it out loud, 0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.759 it gives me, like you know what I mean, like 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.800 a sense of like assurance that I can do this, okay. 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.440 Part of it's like a confidence thing. Part of me 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.400 is saying I've done my due diligence to pray and 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:20.120 whatever happens happens. 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.560 Do you believe in like a like a like a 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:25.719 morality based afterlife? 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.080 No, I don't believe in good or bad people either. 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:30.279 Yeah, I don't need either. 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:31.520 I think that's a dumb thing. 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:33.759 I don't neither only be like I don't believe in 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.479 that because of like a from like a deterministic point 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:36.799 of view. 0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:39.719 It's like it's so like black and white, like oh, 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.920 you're good, you're bad, You're a bad person, you're evil. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.040 Like that's stupid, and I can call the bad person 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.759 many times and it's I don't know. I just don't 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.160 think that's a very accurate way to portray people that 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:51.040 are very complex. 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.480 Yes, I agree, I think it's well because actually, you 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.880 know what sucks about being all uh, you know what 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.480 sucks about being all like spiritual and he's full and 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:05.240 stuff is that it's like like it's so much easier 0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.480 to just be like, I guy's a fucking asshole and 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:08.200 just walk away. 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.920 Yeah, so much. It's so much easier, you know, on 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:11.359 your mind. 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.279 Yeah, yeah, because every because the world is uh, you know, 0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.840 too complex and people are too complex two. 0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.279 To really to take in, you know, and to to 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.000 uh deal with. 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.040 So we have the labels that were like, oh, that 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.320 guy is an asshole or what that's whatever, because it 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.399 makes it easier than being like, ah, that person had 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:39.239 a bad day or a bad childhood, or their brain 0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:40.920 is wired in a certain way, and. 0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:42.920 It's hard because you don't want to excuse they. I 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.920 don't know how much I believe in like free will, okay, 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:52.759 like because like you have your fucking uh you were 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.879 born to your parents with your own brain and even 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:57.640 and you can make decisions, But how much of your 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.480 decisions are your own? Really if they're influenced by so 0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:03.799 many factors outside of yourself, like who your parents were, 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.080 or what your brain chemistry is like, or where you 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.560 grew up, I would do you disagree? 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.799 I don't know. That's I don't I haven't given much 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.000 thought to it. I'd say I do believe in free 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.719 will and I'd say, we're only so much. There's like 0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.000 a threshold in which we're influenced by other things at 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.600 some point. It's just it's just who you are, you 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.359 know what I mean. It's just it's just I don't 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.200 ever listen to my parents, unfortunately. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:29.120 Do they where? 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:29.279 Did? 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:29.600 Where? 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:29.719 Did? 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.480 What? Do your parents think about? Like death? Do you 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.239 do you talk to them about it? In terms of like, 0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.480 well they feel cold showery? 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:39.239 I never asked. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.640 I don't want to talk to them about the cold 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:42.560 shower because I don't want to freak them out, because 0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.240 then they're gonna send me, you know, like another priest. 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:44.880 You know what I mean. 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.200 Do you still go to a church? 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:48.640 I haven't gone. 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.480 I haven't gone in two weeks. I will go when 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.439 I'm I'm moving around right now. So it's a little tough. 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.439 What do they do at church? 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.440 Sactly because I grew up go in a synagogue and synagogue, 0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.719 you know, because it church. At church, I feel like 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.240 a guy gets up there and he speaks in English 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:09.960 and he says a bunch of stuff and in synagogue 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:12.319 gets all in Hebrew and I'm like, what does this mean? 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.520 And they go shut the fuck up and keep reading 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:17.759 and the way. I just remember, like we would sing 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.239 all these songs. I have all these Hebrew songs like 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.400 stuck in my head. I don't know what any of 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.160 them mean. I can't tell you a single like when 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.759 we go to synagogue and we was just singing in 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.680 Hebrew and nobody ever stopped to be like, hey, by 0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:34.000 the way, this is what they're talking about. Actually, I 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:41.279 remember one thing, okay, uh, what is it? Maybe you know, 0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.719 maybe this is a statement about boundaries or something. Okay, 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.360 I remember one thing from Hebrew school that I was 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.279 told something from the Torah, a story about this guy 0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.320 who's like wander He's like lost in the desert and 0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:57.640 he has a canteen of a little bit of water 0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:01.440 and he only has enough water for him self. And 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:07.160 he meets the sky who's also like thirsty and wondering 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.160 that the desert, and uh, he's the guy's like, hey, 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.120 can have some of your water. And according to Torah, 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.320 it's totally cool if you just don't give him. 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.000 The water and you take all the water. You just 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.520 have all the water for you. They told me. They 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.040 told me that. 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:29.240 Yeah, I guess, so it's okay to uh be selfish. 0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:31.880 I guess I think I think so, I don't know. 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:33.319 I don't know if that's I don't know if that's 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:39.120 good pr for for US Jews right now. But anyway, 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:40.200 what were you going to say? 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:42.600 I don't know, And I think this is a good 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.000 stopping point because you have a line. 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:48.880 There's no lot. But what's your name? And a pleasure 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:53.160 to meet you. My name is Lyle. I will I 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:54.760 will see you around the universe. 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.640 How are you my friend? Hey? What's your name? My 0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.520 name is Judah. Judah. Nice to meate you. 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.480 I go by struts as an artistrut. 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.000 How's life? What's going on? 0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.600 Man? Honestly, it's it's okay. I've been having trouble with 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:11.040 my work life balance, you know what I mean? Tell 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.960 me mare, Well, So I work as an artist. I 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.040 sell my art here in the park, and I'm a 0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.080 college student. I'm home for summer break, and I also 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.800 am taking some summer classes as well, all asynchronous and 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.440 online and whatnot. And there's a lot of other things 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:27.000 that I have to do to upkeep my life, like 0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:29.920 taking my meds or going to therapy or you know, 0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.520 going to a regular doctor's appointment, taking care of chores 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.000 around the house and whatnot, and I've been having a 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.640 hard time juggling that and still doing what I feel 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.120 really proud of and doing. 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.040 Like my art really well or to the highest level 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:45.680 of it. What do you feel really proud of? 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.320 I feel proud that excuse me. I feel proud that 0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:56.160 I can make a piece of art that somebody connects 0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.400 to and that brings somebody joy. And I feel like 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.920 I can do that lot over and I've proven that 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.560 I can do that a lot, and I am so 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.520 willing and open to continue doing that in whatever way. 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.600 You know, I study new media, so I'm exploring all 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.320 of these different avenues to go down and it is 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.239 a little overwhelming at times, you know, and it gets 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:21.239 in the way of like maintaining regular relationships with my 0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:23.440 family members or my friends or the people that I. 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:24.239 Love, you know, And. 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.600 Honestly, like, yeah, I guess my question would be like, 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:31.879 how do you balance your work life? 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:32.560 Like? 0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.239 How what do you do you schedule? I know you 0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.359 have a unique situation, but I'm looking to get into 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:38.080 a similar one. 0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.920 Oh, how do I balance my work life schedule? 0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:41.960 Uh? 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.960 You balance your work life schedule by having no life? 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:50.240 I mean, listen, let's listen. Listen, brother, listen, brother. I'm 0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.040 single with no kids, gotcha. 0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.840 You know I can be I go on. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:46:59.560 Long walks at two o'clock in the morning. You know, 0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:01.040 I don't have anything else to do. 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.239 But that's but but if you enjoy going on long 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.640 walks in the morning, that's fine. Like no, I'm sorry 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.359 at three o'cl yeah, three color yeah, yeah. But that's 0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.520 my point is this, Like, if that's what it brings you, 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.280 relief for joy or like I'm down to be single 0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.560 and unmarried. If that means that I live a happy 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.440 life and I don't have to work a job that 0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.600 I hate or X, Y and Z, you know, marriage. 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:26.160 And kids and a family and whatever, it would be great. 0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.520 But it's not like necessary for me necessarily, you know 0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:30.600 what I mean, what's necessary? 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.919 So what's the what's the life part? 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:38.120 So you know, relationships with Like, like I'm twenty years old, 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.160 I'm a college student. I still live with my parents, 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:46.719 you know, and there's some tension there, especially because you know, 0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.560 I've had problems with my like my parents and my 0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.360 family in the past. I'm like it comes to a 0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.600 head sometimes when I'm twenty years old and still living 0:47:55.680 --> 0:48:00.400 in the in the apartment and I'm trying to do 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.200 my artwork and make a lot of prints of all 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.320 my different things, and I'm kind of spread out a 0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.600 little bit. And they come home and I didn't think 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.319 they were gonna come home. They get mad at the mess, 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:13.880 and I'm just I don't know. I need I need 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.239 a certain amount of excess. Excuse me, I need a 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.000 certain amount of success off of this stuff in order 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.520 to be able to have my own space and be independent. 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.919 Yes, especially, And well, do you live with your parents 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.399 in the like city five blocks that way? 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:27.680 Oh? 0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:31.279 Oh, your parents live manh Yeah. Yeah, Okay, here's the thing. 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:34.880 You know what here, you know what's funny is normally 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.200 in a situation like this, it's like. 0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.440 I feel for you trying to get out, even if 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.960 you have, like, like if you have a battle issue 0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:45.520 with the parents, like your parents don't like hit you 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:49.560 or anything. Right, No, okay, all right, all right, because 0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:51.960 here's the thing. Look, normally, i'd be like I normally 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:55.960 i'd be like, if your parents you have a bad 0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.960 relationship with them, I understand why to get out. But 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.640 your parents live in Manhattan, dude, if your parents live 0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.800 in Manhattan, my advice to you, is I swear on 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.120 my life in no other in no other situation do 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:14.000 I ever say this. But if I were you, I 0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.600 would suck it up and live rent free in Manhattan 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.839 for as long as you possibly can, live with your 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.640 parents rent free in Manhattan until you are forty five 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:24.200 years old. 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.000 Isn't that the thing that makes sense to do? 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:26.440 Right? 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.439 That's that's the thing, Like, Bro, if your parents lived 0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.600 in like fucking New Brunswick or whatever. I get, but like, 0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.000 get out of there, dude, live rent free in Manhattan 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.279 as long as you can, honestly, like I'm trying to get. 0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.239 Here's my plan, you're ready. I am going to get 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.760 rich and or famous okay, very young. 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.839 Wor soon? Okay? All right? 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.080 And then I'm gonna have enough money to buy an 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:51.759 apartment of my own in this neighborhood, and I will 0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.600 continue to be a local, and I'll have like a 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:55.840 nice little one bedroom. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.920 Bro, that's way too much pressure. How much money you 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:00.960 need to buy it apart in this neighborhood, and. 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:01.480 I'll sell you something. 0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.839 I don't feel the pressure. I just know that it's coming. 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.040 I genuinely all the way trust that it's gonna come. 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.759 Maybe it won't be when I'm super young, and that's fine, 0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:13.480 and I'm prepared for that and I have backup lands, 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.479 all right, But I genuinely like, I'm not worried about 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.919 success coming to me, whether or not it's gonna I'm 0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:21.600 not excuse me, I'm not worried about whether or not 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.839 success is gonna come to me. I'm just worried about 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.600 when and how and how can I make sure that 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.600 it's what I actually want, how I want to present 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:29.439 myself to the world. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.360 Sure, and like why not? I really. 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.360 Yeah, And even if it isn't fame and fortune or whatever, 0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:42.040 it'll be a loving and fulfilling life, and like, I 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:43.640 feel like I can build that off of my art. 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:49.200 And you know, one hundred percent strut dot NYC. We're lit, 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.319 I you know, I I think that's great. And by 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:56.160 the way, I actually not this isn't wu woo. I 0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.480 know we were just woo woo for the last however long, 0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.719 But I don't think this is whoah, I think this 0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.080 is actually by like this, I believe I don't know 0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:08.239 anything about biology, but I do believe this is like 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:15.120 of the mind, empirically like manifestation, right because I don't. 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.920 I don't necessarily believe in manifestation as a way of 0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:21.360 you put out signals into something outside of yourself, But 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.279 you put signals into your brain, and the signals and 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.520 the thoughts you have influence the actions you have, and 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:31.000 the actions that you do influence the way that the 0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.800 external world responds to you. And sorry, I believe the 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.560 manifestation empirically works. 0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:35.799 In that way. 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.080 And yeah, I agree with that, and I want to 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:43.279 add on to it as well, sure, because I want 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.800 to say, like, I think that manifestation works in that 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.520 if it is something that is constantly on your mind 0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:51.000 and you're thinking about it and always improving those ideas, 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.600 you're working on those ideas, then it will progress because 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:55.160 you're putting the work into it, of course. And the 0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:59.880 reason why I really trust myself to become successful and 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:01.920 not wear bads because I know that I will always 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.960 put the work in and I live by I live 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.319 by a lot of little mottos that I've come up 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.120 with or accumulated, but one of them is that the 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.840 definition of luck is the combination of opportunity and preparation. 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:23.320 Okay, I, okay, I I believe that I do believe 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.319 that that success is a combination. 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:27.759 Yeah. 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.319 Sure, it's a combination of having luck. 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:34.680 Well well, well, yeah, success is a combination of having 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:38.440 some form of inherent talent, a nice you have to 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.640 you have to have some form of inherent talent, some 0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.640 form of work ethic and like a lot of luck 0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:45.920 and a lot of luck can and by the way, 0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:49.319 a lot of luck. Luck comes in many forms. Luck 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:52.080 comes in the form of you know who your parents are. 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:54.880 Luck comes in the form of. 0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:58.239 You know, just like, oh, I was prepared in my 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.360 daddy's nutsac you know what I mean. I mean, I 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.719 have the opportunity and I beat all the other sperm 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:05.520 in the all the other sperm exactly. 0:53:05.560 --> 0:53:07.600 I Yo, everybody starts life out on a win. 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.840 But it I will say that, like I think success 0:53:11.440 --> 0:53:15.160 does require a lot of luck, Like I think it 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:16.560 requires all because that's. 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:20.799 Why I make my own luck. Because here's the thing. 0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:24.239 The benefit of living intan and Lower Manhattan, and the 0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:26.720 reason why I should stay here as long as possible 0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:29.279 is because of the proximity to opportunity. 0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:30.799 Because it's all happening right here. 0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.680 And so if I'm constantly preparing and then going out 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:36.560 and inevitably I know the opportunity will show up. 0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.640 All I gotta do is pounce on that opportunity. And 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:40.960 I'm lit. I'm not worried about because here's the thing. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:47.400 Whether or not you make the the fifty million dollars 0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:51.680 that you need to buy an apartment in fucking you 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.440 know Manhattan, whatever. 0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.279 If I got one hundred grand and a good reputation 0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.520 for selling art for that much, I could get an 0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:08.480 apartment within a year in Manhattan, within a one and 0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:09.920 a half mile radius of where we are. 0:54:10.280 --> 0:54:12.319 Well numbers aside, who gets a shirt, That's not the point. 0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:16.160 The point is. The reason I'm not worried about you 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:17.200 is because. 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:21.400 In the pursuit of these things, you'll probably have a 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:23.319 lot of fun, and you'll probably meet a lot of people, 0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:24.680 and you'll probably make a lot of things that you're 0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:29.440 proud of. One speaking of things that I'm proud of, 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.080 I actually have a gift that I want to give 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:31.200 to you. 0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.040 Is that you're gonna me Is that? Okay, Oh you're 0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:38.920 gonnaar me one moment. Okay, I'm saying one moment. 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:41.560 Okay, I'll talk to the I'll talk to the audience 0:54:41.680 --> 0:54:46.720 wall with this is He's calling a man named Matt, 0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:47.640 would you make. 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.600 I made a shirt. I make wearable paintings. 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.920 Oh, you make wearable painting wear like I made this 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.440 shirt a couple of get the fuck out of here. 0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.600 I made this shirt a couple of weeks ago, and 0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.320 when I I saw you, it just it made me 0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:01.800 think of you. 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:03.600 And honestly, you still go. 0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.200 By the therapy get go right or no, yeah, gek therapy, 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:10.359 gecko lyle, whatever, whatever it might be, and not only 0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.759 fits your color, but it's it's a person who is 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.200 in pain but not letting that pain define them and 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.239 is scratchy, but it's finding beauty in that scratchiness. And 0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:23.040 I love street art so much, you know, and I 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:24.880 because I grew up in this neighborhood. It's been a 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.160 big part of how I've grown as an artist, and 0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:31.520 so stuff like this is really important to me, and 0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.880 especially like this is a form of street art and 0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:36.920 what you're doing right now, and like being on the 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.920 street and making art and making these videos and interacting 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:43.400 with these people, and I love it. 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:45.560 You know, I study new media and this is very 0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:48.600 very inspiring to me. Thanks. I want to give you 0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:50.160 this shirt as a gift. 0:55:50.360 --> 0:55:52.799 Thank you, man. I'm gonna I gotta make this here. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:56.840 I'm gonna make this the I'll put so that the 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.040 audio listeners can see it. I'll make it the U 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:04.120 the thumbnail of the podcast, the audio podcast, because it's funny. 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.680 This is this is like a this is a perfect 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.319 shirt for me. This feel it's a green. 0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:13.040 Guy with a it's it's a it's a Korean man 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:15.000 in a state of existential dread. 0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.480 It is such a perfect shirt. Thank you for this. 0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:19.640 This is this is awesome. 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:25.279 Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, the shirts I'm actually I made the 0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:26.399 one that I'm wearing right now. 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:28.759 Well, okay, so what is that? 0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:31.680 So we just had a whole long, crazy, constant like 0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.120 talk about existential bullshit. 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:34.960 This what is this? This seems very existential. 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.680 So this is one of my favorite pieces that I've 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.040 made recently. It's based off of a painting of the 0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:42.279 Rapture of Saint Paul. 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:46.400 And what is the rapture of Saint Paul? What's the story? 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.680 It's one of the saints, he got raptured, he went 0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.200 up to heaven. That's That's about the extent of its 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.480 relevance to the piece. Honestly, Well, you made a whole 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:55.759 thing about the thing you don't know what the thing 0:56:55.840 --> 0:56:58.520 is about. Well, okay, sorry, what's the relevant to the piece? 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:04.040 I spoke too soon? The point being that in Christianity 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.680 there are these conflicting beliefs that every human being is flawed, 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:13.840 and also on the other hand, Jesus will take responsibility 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:15.560 for all of your sins and God will see you 0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.800 as perfect. And so it's kind of tearing between this, 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:23.680 like perfection in God's eyes and imperfection in the real world, 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:25.880 and so kind of the meaning of this is that 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:29.720 as Paul gets closer to Heaven, it's easier to see him, 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.040 and as he is closer to Earth, things. 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:32.560 Are more muddled. 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.400 It's not as black and white, it's not as easy 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.600 to tell what is what. And so that was the 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.720 meaning of this piece a lot of them. Some of 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.160 the pieces are more complex, some of the pieces are 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.840 more simple and striking. This is definitely one of the 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.600 more striking ones. But people really like it and they've 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.160 been you know, I've been out here. Technically I'm not 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.160 allowed to sell a peril in the park, which is 0:57:52.200 --> 0:57:53.240 why I don't sell a peril. 0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:56.439 I don't sell t shirts. Guys. 0:57:56.680 --> 0:58:00.920 Guys, there's a guy walking around selling but just whine 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:03.520 out of a cooler, and there's people selling. There's no 0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:07.720 laws in Washington. Washington Square Park is like there's no law. 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:09.800 Nobody has a permit except for me. 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:13.560 I have a permit. If anyone asks, oh, I'm sure. 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:15.720 You know. 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.959 There often are not often, but sometimes there are. 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.120 Park cops quote unquote, not real cops, but park enforcers 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:24.240 or rangers or whatever. 0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:27.800 And they do come because it's a historical landmark. 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:32.160 So they come around and they tell you, oh, specifically this, 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.280 you can't display a price, you can't do a T shirt, 0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:36.640 you can't put the T shirts on display. 0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.080 You can't they guys. Should They gotta be super bored. 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:42.200 To do that. Yes, And they only come out once 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:43.960 in a while to just let people know. And it's 0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:47.120 the same guys. So if they see you twice doing 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.640 the same thing, then it's a court summons and it's 0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:54.000 And honestly, that's why I voted for Zoorn Mamdani is 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.919 because he is working to help street vendors have less 0:58:57.960 --> 0:59:01.440 red tape to cut through and just make stuff like 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.200 street art or street food, which is a former street 0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.360 art in my opinion, sure able to be more accessible 0:59:06.400 --> 0:59:09.320 and cheaper he's gonna make the process for getting a 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.200 food cart license or food truck license a lot easier 0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:12.440 to do. 0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:15.880 I like the idea of a campaign that's like a 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:19.440 dollar water bottle out of a cooler guys from Mondami. 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:22.880 Yes, but you know what, the dollar water bottle guys, 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:25.720 the ones that keep it cool, especially they hold this 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.600 park on their shoulder. I like the idea of like 0:59:27.720 --> 0:59:30.320 all like a just like fifty of them in one room. 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.160 Oh yeah, they they're probably a voting block. 0:59:33.240 --> 0:59:33.439 Dude. 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.480 I bet that there is like the king of the 0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:38.720 one dollar water guys and he's like a political boss 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:39.880 and he tells them to vote for. 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:41.880 Yeah, I don't are that. You think they're all in 0:59:41.960 --> 0:59:44.440 a network? Like, how do you get into that? I 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:45.560 bet it's RelA you know what. 0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.520 I bet it's relatively lucrative because you could buy like 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.000 if I go, if I go, buy like a store 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.440 brand case of water, maybe like five bucks for thirty 0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:54.760 of them. 0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:59.160 That's twenty five bucks a case. That's pretty good. Oh 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.080 excuse me, sorry, that's all problem. 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.240 That is that is pretty good, but also is like 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:08.280 you have to take into account your time, right, Like 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.720 if you sell let's say five bottles of water. Let's 1:00:11.720 --> 1:00:13.800 say you sell a bottle of water every five minutes, 1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:20.120 which is pretty good, right, You're making twelve dollars an 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.680 hour minus what you spent on the bottles, so let's 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:28.600 say nine dollars an hour. It's not great, and honestly, 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.360 it's not super fun. I see the guys who do it. 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:34.600 They're not having a great time. I love them, they're 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:36.800 they're my co workers, honestly, because we all work in 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:37.400 the park together. 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:39.800 But I can tell it's one of the less fun 1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:41.840 jobs to have. How often are you out here? 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:45.680 I am out here six days a week, but one 1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:47.760 one week on, one week off. So I come out 1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.480 for six days and then I retract for six days. 1:00:50.520 --> 1:00:50.880 What do you do? 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:51.760 What do you? What do you do? 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:55.040 When you retract? I make more art pieces. I normally 1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:56.560 only do very limited editions. 1:00:56.640 --> 1:01:00.040 So I'll do five prints of a new design, and 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:03.280 then once they sell out, I'll just turn it into 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:03.640 a sticker. 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:05.160 But it'll never exist as a print again. 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:07.720 Sure, so I spent I spend the week cooking up, 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:12.720 you know, fifteen twenty new designs, printing stuff out. I've 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.160 been because I'm still very new to this. I'm like 1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:17.840 in my second month of doing it. So I'm still 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:19.840 like upgrading all of my stuff. I'm about to have 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.520 my stickers laminated so that they'll be more scratch and 1:01:22.680 --> 1:01:25.640 dustproof and whatnot. They're currently they're waterproof, but they're not 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.840 They're not as good as they could be. And you know, 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:32.680 I'm part of an art collective called b YOBF. Shout 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:34.480 out Perry Mason, shout out oxy here. 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:37.920 What is BYO? Well, I'm gonna guess B why Oh, 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:42.200 bring your own best friend? You're super closed. It's be 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:43.120 your own best threat. 1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:47.520 That sounds depressing, you know what, It's actually really inspirational 1:01:47.600 --> 1:01:51.880 and it kind of u is parallel to a form 1:01:51.920 --> 1:01:54.520 of existentialism that I really or nihilism that I really like, 1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:56.560 which is optimistic nihilism. 1:01:56.640 --> 1:02:00.520 Optimistic nihilism. I love it. Yeah, yeah, we're at we're 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:03.760 on that train at a little bit. And so I 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:05.960 can give you the backstory behind it. Actually, go ahead. 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:11.120 So my good friend Perry Mason, who's a successful and 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:16.320 up and coming musician, he invited some people that were 1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:17.560 old friends to a. 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:20.680 To a show. 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:25.080 And he invited some old friends to a show and 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:28.080 they didn't show up and he got really upset and 1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:30.200 he went home and he wrote b YOBFB youre on 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.880 best friend all over his walls and ever since then, 1:02:32.960 --> 1:02:34.520 that's been the brand, that's been the collective. 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:35.840 We're working on it. 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:37.880 Oh, his friends didn't come to his show, so he 1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:40.160 has to be his own friends. And but do you 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:42.840 know what it really inspired me when I heard that song? 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:43.280 Yeah right. 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:47.120 The idea is, you have to be your biggest supporter. 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:48.720 You have to be the person who believes in you 1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:51.240 the most. You can't wait on somebody else to believe 1:02:51.280 --> 1:02:53.000 in you. They got their own arms going on. And 1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:55.840 so you know, it kind of goes into my name Strut, 1:02:56.480 --> 1:03:00.360 which is all about confidence and about yeah really, what 1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:02.520 I say about Strutt is is like, if you don't 1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:05.520 walk out of your apartment or your house every single morning, 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:07.720 truly believing and acting. 1:03:07.520 --> 1:03:09.120 Like you are the shit, like you are the best 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.880 las well you got you, you will never be the 1:03:11.920 --> 1:03:15.600 ship you. Well, you gotta have a you. 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:19.680 I think there's an optimal amount of thinking you're the 1:03:19.760 --> 1:03:22.800 ship and you gotta you know, I mean, no one 1:03:23.000 --> 1:03:25.320 likes someone who doesn't hate themselves a little bit. 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:26.840 You have to hate yourself a little bit. Does it 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:29.760 seem like I don't hate myself, You probably hate yourself 1:03:29.760 --> 1:03:32.120 a little bit. All I can tell you I can. 1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:33.840 I can tell you hate yourself a little bit only 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:37.240 because hating yourself a little bit is a natural trade. 1:03:37.280 --> 1:03:41.440 I believe of all super ambitious people, yes, and the 1:03:41.560 --> 1:03:44.200 parts of myself that I hate, the parts that are 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:50.720 unable to achieve my creative goals. And like the parts, 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:53.160 the good parts come up with all these great ideas, 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:55.480 and the parts that are bad hold me back from 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:58.080 creating those ideas. And that's why I've been working to 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:01.640 work with my problems. You know, one thing that I learned, 1:04:01.680 --> 1:04:04.280 I learned and as a new media major, I had 1:04:04.320 --> 1:04:09.080 to take programming class, and I fucking hate programming. 1:04:09.160 --> 1:04:11.840 It's like computer programming. Oh AI is gonna do all 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:12.640 that stuff. 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:14.760 At all? 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:20.720 Anyways. Point by the way, I just I don't think 1:04:20.760 --> 1:04:21.800 I think I will do that. 1:04:21.880 --> 1:04:23.640 So I don't think it's gonna take away Like art, 1:04:23.720 --> 1:04:26.640 though I agree, I don't think it's gonna take away. 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:28.720 I think that if you, as an artist, are worried 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:31.400 about AI replacing your art, you either have to believe 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:33.080 in yourself more or make better art. 1:04:33.800 --> 1:04:35.880 I think it'll I think I will probably take away 1:04:35.960 --> 1:04:37.439 like a lot of commercial arts. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:40.120 I don't think that's art. I think that that is 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:45.280 just both like commodifiable visuals. That's not art, a lot 1:04:45.320 --> 1:04:50.240 of commodifiable visuals. But as far as like like like 1:04:50.320 --> 1:04:52.480 when you go when you buy tickets to see like 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:55.320 as a comedian, or when you buy a piece from 1:04:55.360 --> 1:04:59.240 an artist, you you're you're buying more than just the 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:01.040 you're buying, you know, you it's like that. 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:04.480 It's like it's that person, you know, and only people 1:05:04.560 --> 1:05:05.920 can be people. 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.440 Yeah, like when when when the company is like, oh, 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:11.200 I need a logo for my for you know, my 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:12.439 fucking bank or whatever. 1:05:12.560 --> 1:05:15.720 That's That's that's how I feel about it. To curse. 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:17.120 Some say you can curse. I don't know. 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:19.840 It's not PBS work after all. How you guys doing, 1:05:20.240 --> 1:05:23.160 how do you feel? You know, well, there's a bunch 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:24.800 of guys. Why did you get back here? There's a 1:05:24.800 --> 1:05:29.560 bunch of guys behind us, these guys you love anybody 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:31.600 high five bro and war and. 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:35.080 War piece everybody just. 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:37.280 Like that. 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:42.520 Send those guys to the fucking the battlefields, you know. 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:45.960 I bet I bet those guys. I bet those guys 1:05:46.240 --> 1:05:48.720 could bring peace to the world. You know what in 1:05:48.760 --> 1:05:51.200 a heartbeat, one high five at a time, one high 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:52.000 five at a time. 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:54.040 I love it so much. 1:05:56.320 --> 1:06:00.880 Judah Jebediah. Judah Jebediah. Jebediah was a bullfrog. He was 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:02.760 a good friend of mine. Who are your favorite artists? 1:06:02.800 --> 1:06:06.960 Before we go, I'll give a couple of visual artists. 1:06:07.160 --> 1:06:10.360 I really love Richard Prince. He's very controversial. 1:06:11.280 --> 1:06:12.680 Why why is it controversial? 1:06:12.800 --> 1:06:16.120 He takes other people's artwork and he reframes it. He 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:19.080 gives a new meaning, sure and calls it his own 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:20.280 and is very successful with it. 1:06:20.440 --> 1:06:21.880 But some people don't like that. 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:24.480 For the record, if anyone ever, if anyone wants to 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:28.480 take this exact podcast and re upload it on YouTube 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:31.840 and put like a really grainy filter on it and 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:34.040 some low fi hip hop underneath it, if you can 1:06:34.120 --> 1:06:37.320 find a way to make money doing that, you go ahead. 1:06:37.320 --> 1:06:39.440 I don't give I'm gonna make a YouTube channel doing that. 1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:43.720 Yeah, yeah, grany low fi hip hop therapy Gecko re 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:46.880 uploads one million. If you can do that and it 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.120 adds value to your life in any way, shape or form, 1:06:50.360 --> 1:06:51.439 then then go ahead. 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:51.960 I love it. 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:54.920 I'm I'm doing new media. So I'm studying all these 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:56.920 different facets of art and all this. 1:06:57.120 --> 1:06:59.160 If you can do one, if you can do one, 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:01.840 if you can make a YouTube channel where it's this 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:05.640 podcast but it's got the Simpsons theme on a loop 1:07:05.920 --> 1:07:09.560 underneath it at twelve decibel volume. 1:07:09.880 --> 1:07:12.080 I don't go ahead, whatever, you know what I'm gonna do. 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.520 I'm gonna use the curve function and make us look 1:07:15.640 --> 1:07:17.720 like pieces of glitch art moving glitch art. 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:20.280 Go ahead, and then I'm gonna lower the octaves. 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:22.919 And when one person is talking, when when you're talking, 1:07:23.000 --> 1:07:24.760 you're gonna talk really and I really high pitch. 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:26.720 And then when the guest is talking, they're gonna talk. 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:28.880 Fuck it up. Who gives that? We're gonna have so much? Yeah, 1:07:29.160 --> 1:07:32.080 remix it. I love It's fine. That's a spirit of 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:34.400 sweet like people well, people like uh. 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:38.480 Like sometimes I'm gonna DM where someone's like, hey, this 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:41.040 guy is reposting all your reels. 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:45.560 Awesome. It's fine. You know. It's by the way, that's good. 1:07:45.640 --> 1:07:47.920 That is if if my goal is that I want 1:07:47.960 --> 1:07:51.880 as many people to see the thing as possible, who 1:07:51.960 --> 1:07:52.520 gives a shit? 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.160 Yeah you know, it's not like we're getting money off 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:57.240 of Instagram anyways. Yeah. Also that's the thing. 1:07:57.280 --> 1:07:59.720 It's like, so I you know, I don't really make 1:07:59.760 --> 1:08:04.080 money off of like the platforms themselves. 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:06.440 As a hundred percent. You know what I really like 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:10.680 is like YouTubers participating in edit culture. You know what 1:08:10.760 --> 1:08:12.440 I mean? Yeah, YouTube poops. 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:16.680 Yeah, yeah exactly, And like the evolution of that, and 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:19.479 like I know, there are a lot of YouTubers that 1:08:19.560 --> 1:08:22.600 will like take a second in each video or in 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:24.639 every every show video and be like, Okay, we're gonna 1:08:24.760 --> 1:08:26.960 edit form for a second and just like flip their 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:29.880 hair and have fun YadA, YadA, YadA, and they always 1:08:30.439 --> 1:08:33.840 watch and repost and like the the and it just 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:35.759 creates the edits and whatnot. 1:08:36.160 --> 1:08:39.000 It creates a sense of community and gathering and like 1:08:39.320 --> 1:08:40.639 that's what art is all about. 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:43.360 It's funny, like like I don't know, you take like 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:46.479 a like like how many times you go on YouTube 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:48.600 and you see a Family Guy clip or like a 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:52.439 whole like Family Guy funny episode complation and it's uploaded 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:57.600 by like Shadow the Hedgehog fifty two or whatever. And 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:01.080 it's like if Fox went around and took all those down, 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:04.800 that'd be bad. That would be bad for it's good 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:06.960 to have it means more people are gonna see your ship, 1:09:07.000 --> 1:09:08.080 more people are gonna like your ship. 1:09:09.600 --> 1:09:12.599 You know, where do you think we go when we die? Yeah, 1:09:12.680 --> 1:09:13.559 that's never mind. 1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:17.599 I'm good for that question, right, I'm a smart Okay, 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:19.479 al right, you don't have to be smart to answer 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:21.240 that question. Yeah, but I think that you have to 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:24.320 be open to looking at your emotions instead of just 1:09:24.479 --> 1:09:25.400 choosing the most comfortable. 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:27.360 Do you think you can answer it in twenty seconds? 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:29.280 Because I think if I have another conversation about death, 1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:30.439 I'm gonna cry my sleep. 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:34.760 Give me countdown from twenty I'm gonna all right, here's 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:36.760 what I think about what happens after we die. 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:39.360 I think that it doesn't fucking matter. 1:09:39.680 --> 1:09:43.599 I think that you should choose to live your life 1:09:43.680 --> 1:09:45.200 the way that it makes sense for you to live it, 1:09:45.360 --> 1:09:48.120 and the way that makes other people and yourself the 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:49.560 happiest and the most comfortable. 1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:51.640 And if there is a god, and if there is 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:52.960 an afterlife, if. 1:09:52.880 --> 1:09:55.920 He disagrees with my morals, then hell will probably not 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:57.599 be hell, and Heaven will probably not be heaven. 1:09:58.040 --> 1:09:59.680 He'll just choose the right place for me. So you 1:09:59.720 --> 1:10:02.280 know that's some quote where it's like any all right. 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:04.240 It's like if God, if God is the kind of 1:10:04.320 --> 1:10:07.240 guy that you know sends you to hell fire for 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:10.120 you know, masturbating or whatever, then he's probably a dick. 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:12.479 I don't want to worship him anyway. That's my that's 1:10:12.600 --> 1:10:14.920 that's our remix of whatever. 1:10:15.479 --> 1:10:17.280 You know what I you know what I think as 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:20.479 like an agnostic Jewish person. Oh you're Jewish? Let mother 1:10:20.600 --> 1:10:25.839 fucking him? Hi him. It's a it's a Shabbat. 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:26.960 It is. 1:10:28.479 --> 1:10:31.799 Friday night. You were actually here for the beginning of Shabbat. 1:10:31.920 --> 1:10:34.400 Somebody asked me the other day what Shabbat is. I 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:35.400 didn't know how to tell him. 1:10:35.720 --> 1:10:39.240 It's like it's time of rest and reflection. And we 1:10:39.840 --> 1:10:42.080 Jews were very neurotic. We're always running around doing things. 1:10:42.160 --> 1:10:47.240 We have to take time to reflect and recombobulate and uh, decompress. 1:10:47.800 --> 1:10:55.160 Is anxiety a Jewish thing? Are you anxious? Judaism is 1:10:55.240 --> 1:10:58.720 an anxious thing. Anxiety is not a Jewish thing? Do 1:10:58.720 --> 1:10:59.320 you know what I mean? 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:04.360 It's pretty fair to say is a blanket statement. Jews 1:11:04.400 --> 1:11:08.880 are anxious overall trend, but not all anxious people are juice. 1:11:09.160 --> 1:11:12.080 Of course, they might enjoy Judaism or benefit from Judaism, 1:11:12.160 --> 1:11:13.479 but they aren't necessarily jewice. 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:15.439 Do you think it's like the whole? Do you think 1:11:15.439 --> 1:11:17.880 it's like the constant, like like we're always like escaping 1:11:17.960 --> 1:11:18.960 from some bullshit. 1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:23.760 Yeah, And I think that that's life, you know, where 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:26.799 we're escaping and we're confronting, and we're escaping and we're confronting. 1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:28.960 That is because doing all of one or all of 1:11:29.000 --> 1:11:32.240 the other is not fun, reproductive, or healthy. You know 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:33.920 one thing that I learned while I was tripping on 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:35.679 shrooms my grandma's hot tub. 1:11:37.840 --> 1:11:40.960 You live a hilarious life. Yeah, that to the maximum, 1:11:41.080 --> 1:11:43.800 to the maximum. Your grandma is a hot Does your 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:44.839 grandma live in Manhattan? 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:52.120 To Grandma, I was about to say, if your grandma 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:53.920 had a hot tub in Manhattan, you just gotta you 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:56.560 just gotta you know, No, she lives in getting that 1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:58.840 you gotta get in that will she. 1:11:58.920 --> 1:11:59.880 Lives in upstate New York. 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:02.960 But I was tripping on chums with my best friend 1:12:03.240 --> 1:12:04.679 and I was in the hot tub and I felt 1:12:04.760 --> 1:12:08.160 like this warm blanket of sunlight but then the cool 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:10.640 but also the hot water, and I was just it 1:12:10.680 --> 1:12:13.759 made me realize that like life is about balancing things 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:15.280 and like if. 1:12:15.240 --> 1:12:15.840 Little is good. 1:12:15.880 --> 1:12:18.000 More must be better, but not too much, you know, 1:12:18.240 --> 1:12:22.559 and all of these different things, and I realized that, like, yes, 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:24.200 they're the things that I enjoy, but I have to 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:25.880 balance them the things that I have to do that 1:12:25.960 --> 1:12:28.799 I don't necessarily enjoy in order for them to mean anything. 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:31.599 You know, if everybody loves each other all the time, 1:12:32.360 --> 1:12:34.679 then love doesn't mean anything because it's just the norm. 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:37.120 Yeah, yeah, I agree. There is a balance. You can't 1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:39.640 just like hate or hell in order for love or 1:12:39.680 --> 1:12:43.000 heaven to exist. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, I 1:12:43.040 --> 1:12:44.840 guess that's true. I agree. I agree with you. 1:12:44.880 --> 1:12:46.360 And that's and it's kind of what I was just 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:47.880 what we were just talking about a little bit with 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:50.519 like the like labeling people and whatever. You have to 1:12:50.560 --> 1:12:53.200 have a little bit of you have to make because again, 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.800 if you're like all peaceful and spiritual all the time, 1:12:56.360 --> 1:12:58.800 you're just gonna if you're like all peaceful and spiritual 1:12:58.880 --> 1:13:02.680 and conscious all the time, you're gonna be incompatible with 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:06.160 the actual world that you live in, which is going 1:13:06.200 --> 1:13:10.160 to the grocery store sometimes and taking ships and saying 1:13:10.240 --> 1:13:13.360 hello to some guys sometimes, you know what I mean, 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:15.960 Like you stop it stop signing like you don't live 1:13:16.200 --> 1:13:19.160 in the ethereal plane, so you gotta be you. 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:23.080 Know personal personally, I do my best to live in 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:24.240 the ethereal plane every day. 1:13:24.479 --> 1:13:27.719 That's too much. Yeah, I I live in the ethereal 1:13:27.840 --> 1:13:30.439 plane all day, but I don't like it. One of 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:32.280 these days, I just want to be like I like, 1:13:32.960 --> 1:13:34.679 I like when I'm not in the ethereal plane. 1:13:34.760 --> 1:13:37.160 I what I like to do is I canpartmentalize, so 1:13:37.400 --> 1:13:39.760 I'll live in the ethereal plane some days and then 1:13:39.880 --> 1:13:41.960 work so that I can live in the ethereal plane 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:42.639 on the other days. 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.080 Like I think I was pissed off about something stupid, 1:13:46.160 --> 1:13:49.360 and I was pissed off about what was I pissed 1:13:49.360 --> 1:13:49.640 off from. 1:13:49.640 --> 1:13:51.160 You gotta be like a get go man. You gotta 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:53.120 let it flow off your back like water. No, no, no, 1:13:53.280 --> 1:13:56.120 I I like being pissed off. Now, it's good. That's 1:13:56.200 --> 1:13:57.360 very Jewish. No it's not. 1:13:57.439 --> 1:13:59.280 I promise it's not Jewish. I promise it's not Jewish. 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:02.600 It's here's here's let me tell you why I'm like 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:07.519 being pissed off. Sometimes it's because, like like the last 1:14:07.680 --> 1:14:09.639 you know, all right here, let me tell you something. 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:14.320 So there's a bit of a bell curve. I believe 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:17.920 to consciousness, and at the beginning, at the beginning of 1:14:18.000 --> 1:14:22.840 a bell curve is like, uh, like every little thing 1:14:23.000 --> 1:14:25.799 pisses you, like like a very low amount of conscious 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:27.400 Like you're just getting pissed off by everything. 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:29.880 You're like, Oh, the fucking line is too long at 1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:32.519 this store. I always cut lines. 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:38.360 Come on, I don't know why you always cut lines that? 1:14:38.520 --> 1:14:40.679 Do you really just just most of the that's such 1:14:40.720 --> 1:14:41.320 a dick move. 1:14:41.439 --> 1:14:44.080 Why do you cut in lines? Okay, you've ever seen 1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:47.599 the like here here, here's why I cut the line. 1:14:49.800 --> 1:14:55.040 I can't defend you on that. Most of the time, 1:14:55.240 --> 1:14:56.520 it's a mob anyways. 1:14:56.680 --> 1:15:00.000 Like if it's like a really organized line and it's 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.320 big and it's moving fast, fine, right, And if there's 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:06.240 like there's like things going on. But like, for example, 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:09.960 like when everybody's just moving towards an escalator and it's 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:13.200 people are forming a line, Fuck that line, I'm gonna 1:15:13.200 --> 1:15:14.640 just go on the escalator. 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:18.639 Like, Okay, if if I'll tell you this, if if 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:20.920 I'm in a situation where there's a big crowd and 1:15:20.960 --> 1:15:23.360 we're all yes getting something like we're getting into an escalator, 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:28.479 and I see that the most optimal way for me 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:31.760 to exist in this formation, and that's the goal that 1:15:31.840 --> 1:15:33.960 we're attempting it as a crowd, to make it a 1:15:34.040 --> 1:15:36.920 clean formation. If that goal requires me to be in 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:40.160 front of this guy, I would do that occasionally. 1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:40.400 Sure. 1:15:40.520 --> 1:15:42.240 But if we're like if I'm like like, okay, we're 1:15:42.280 --> 1:15:45.120 like in line at a fucking taco stand or whatever, 1:15:45.120 --> 1:15:47.960 I'm not gonna cut the fucking taco stand. 1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:50.759 Oh No, that's what I'm talking about. But like, for example, 1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:55.080 have you heard of the chat and cut? Yeah, it's 1:15:55.120 --> 1:15:58.400 a Larry David thing. I you chatting, don't know. No, 1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:02.479 I think that's an amateur move. Amateur amateur move. I 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:08.880 think that. No, I'm serious. I'm dead serious. The chatt 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:10.400 and cut is an amateur What do you do? What 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:12.560 do you do to cut lines? Here's what you do. 1:16:14.320 --> 1:16:18.160 You stand there as if you're not online on your phone, 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:20.639 and then when the line moves forward, you step forward. 1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:24.160 No, that's such a dick move. Highly disagree with that. 1:16:24.320 --> 1:16:26.320 And here's here's here. You want to hear some examples 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:27.799 of the way of music, because I don't use it everywhere, 1:16:27.800 --> 1:16:29.519 but I'll give you some examples and you tell me 1:16:29.520 --> 1:16:34.439 if you think it was addiculation. Sure, the British Museum. Okay, 1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:37.840 we were online to get into the bare you it 1:16:37.960 --> 1:16:40.240 was in Britain, in London, Yes, in London. 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:42.400 Yes. You can't do that. You can't. 1:16:42.479 --> 1:16:47.599 It's even worse. You can't go to a foreign country 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:49.360 and start being. 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:51.320 That. 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:54.200 You know you're in Italy. Look, you grew up in 1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:54.599 New York. 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:57.360 Yeah, okay, So like if you cut in line at 1:16:57.439 --> 1:17:00.400 some hot dog stand here, that would be I think 1:17:00.479 --> 1:17:02.560 that would be a dick move. But to go to 1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:06.080 a foreign country and start being a dick there makes 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:07.320 it so much worse. 1:17:07.920 --> 1:17:08.040 Bro. 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:11.040 The way I feel is like, fuck the British and 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.400 fuck specifically the British Museum. 1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:13.720 Bro. 1:17:13.920 --> 1:17:17.519 Come on, but it's not hold on. But it's about 1:17:17.520 --> 1:17:19.680 the people, right, You're not okay, you're not. You're not 1:17:19.880 --> 1:17:23.000 fucking over the British when you cut in line. Of course, 1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:26.080 you're fucking over the other people, Okay, But it's you're 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.680 talking about disrespected in other countries. It's not about the 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:30.400 other country. First of all, it's not about it's not 1:17:30.439 --> 1:17:31.200 about the other country. 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:35.080 There's other people waiting in the line who want to 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:37.559 see the British Museum, and you're not better than them, 1:17:37.920 --> 1:17:39.519 so you gotta wait in the fucking line. 1:17:39.600 --> 1:17:42.160 Everybody has time tickets, and most of the people in 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:44.080 that line I was listening to. I was standing at 1:17:44.080 --> 1:17:46.080 the back of the line listening to them, and everyone 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:48.160 was like talking about how they were trying to get 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:52.080 tickets on the way in. And I told the first 1:17:52.120 --> 1:17:53.840 couple of people and then they left to the other 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:57.720 bigger line or left to not come. But then it 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.360 got to a certain point where it was moving so 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:03.519 slowly because every single person was having an argument with 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:06.720 them about oh I needed Like I didn't know that 1:18:06.800 --> 1:18:07.719 I had to have a time ticket. 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:09.479 You didn't mark this properly, X, Y and Z. Wait, 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:12.479 what's another example? I was another example when you cut 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:12.800 in line. 1:18:12.920 --> 1:18:16.479 Okay, I'll give you another example. I was at a 1:18:16.760 --> 1:18:20.080 concert and they had a merch table and the concert. 1:18:20.200 --> 1:18:22.000 Then the line for the merch table was crazy long. 1:18:22.080 --> 1:18:24.200 I didn't want any merch. I just wanted a poncha 1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:26.439 because it was raining and it was an outdoor concert. 1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:28.640 So I stood at the front of the line and 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:31.439 asked people like, yo, can I give you five dollars 1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:32.360 you buy. 1:18:32.320 --> 1:18:36.439 Me a poncha. Oh my god, it worked. It worked, Juda. 1:18:36.479 --> 1:18:39.320 I mean you have to give them five dollars. It worked, Juda. Judah, 1:18:40.760 --> 1:18:42.760 I know it so literally, I will. 1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:46.040 I've been like in like I'll go to Chipotle and 1:18:46.200 --> 1:18:49.519 I'll wait in line for the whatever the thing, like 1:18:49.600 --> 1:18:53.400 I to get my burrito, and then afterwards, I'm like, oh, crap, 1:18:53.400 --> 1:18:56.280 I forgot napkins. I gotta ask them for napkins. And 1:18:56.880 --> 1:18:59.320 some people they cut. They're like, hey, they cut them. 1:18:59.320 --> 1:19:00.880 They go to the front line like, hey, I just 1:19:01.000 --> 1:19:04.439 wanted to ask for napkins. Wait in line, yeah, to 1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:05.280 ask for the napkins. 1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:06.559 Can I be real with you, bro, and I think 1:19:06.600 --> 1:19:08.840 that my opinion is equally as valid as yours. You're 1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:15.160 a sucker for that. No, it's a I disagree. I disagree. 1:19:15.400 --> 1:19:17.320 I like, okay, you know you know what you're like, 1:19:17.560 --> 1:19:19.280 You're like, I know what kind of okay you have? 1:19:19.479 --> 1:19:20.320 Do you fly? Do you fly? 1:19:20.600 --> 1:19:20.720 Fly? 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:20.920 On? 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:21.280 You fly? 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:22.000 Sometimes? 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:22.280 Yeah? 1:19:23.160 --> 1:19:27.040 You ever get the person who's like you, the person's like, hey, 1:19:27.080 --> 1:19:28.599 I'm sorry, I'm late for my flight. Can I cut 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:32.000 in front of you at t s A? Yeah, I 1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:33.919 cannot imagine having. 1:19:33.760 --> 1:19:37.160 The goal to do that. I understand it. 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:39.600 I said I would, I would, I would miss the 1:19:39.720 --> 1:19:43.200 flight and waste a bunch of money having to get 1:19:43.200 --> 1:19:45.720 a new one before I did that, not even and 1:19:45.840 --> 1:19:48.040 and that's that's not even actually I'll say this, And 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:51.080 that's not like me being like a fucking holier than now. Guy, 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:54.479 that's just me that I mean, that's me social anxiety, 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:56.120 not even social anxiety. 1:19:56.160 --> 1:19:59.680 But it's like just to have the nerve. We have 1:19:59.760 --> 1:20:02.559 the nerve because motherfucker, we all want to get on them. 1:20:02.680 --> 1:20:05.040 We all want to get to our flights. I think 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:09.680 that we are both taking hyperbolic stances that are unrealistic 1:20:09.800 --> 1:20:10.920 for regular people's lives. 1:20:10.960 --> 1:20:13.040 I know, I disagree. I think you're I think you're wrong. No, 1:20:13.200 --> 1:20:14.800 I think I don't think. I don't think. 1:20:14.840 --> 1:20:18.960 I also think you're necessary. Okay, let me tell you something. 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.840 I don't think I think you're one hundred percent wrong. 1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:27.000 I don't think I'm necessarily right. I don't think I'm 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:29.880 necessarily wrong either. But I think you're one hundred percent right. 1:20:29.920 --> 1:20:32.080 And I can I give you another version of the 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:34.280 chapot example. You were, yeah, and I have to go 1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:35.800 I have to go home. 1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:37.880 Uh. 1:20:39.320 --> 1:20:41.640 I cut the line in Chipotle And here's how I 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:43.880 do it. I go on door dash and I order 1:20:43.960 --> 1:20:47.000 it pick up order fifteen minutes before I get that, 1:20:47.160 --> 1:20:49.280 cutting the line. Yeah, but it is cutting the line. 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:50.800 You Okay, go ahead, I'll let you finish. 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:55.640 It's the same exact thing, because they're gonna get the 1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:59.799 order and make it. They're gonna get the order before 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:02.160 someone who got into the shop before you even thought 1:21:02.200 --> 1:21:04.479 about getting the burrito has gotten to the front yet. 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:09.400 Yeah, but that's fair. But that's fair because you are 1:21:09.520 --> 1:21:15.360 taking advantage of a system that the person who is 1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:17.160 waiting in line could have also taken advantage of. 1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:18.000 You're got, You're got. 1:21:18.040 --> 1:21:21.800 You're operating within the established system, operating within the when 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:24.320 you were operating within an established form of order. 1:21:24.720 --> 1:21:27.160 Right when you cut the line. If we take social 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:28.559 mediums out of it, we think about you like what's 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:29.679 right and what's wrong? Sure? 1:21:29.800 --> 1:21:36.559 Right, the same kind of like financial system that allowed 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:38.760 me to make the door dash right, uh huh? 1:21:38.960 --> 1:21:42.360 Pick up. It's just a social system that says that 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:43.599 I can't cut in line. 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:43.880 Bro. 1:21:44.800 --> 1:21:47.479 I'm sorry, I I really I love this pit and 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:49.519 I can't keep it up anymore. I don't cut in line. 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:51.719 Wait a bit, yeah, I'm sorry. 1:21:52.400 --> 1:21:53.960 This whole thing was a bit. Yeah, I love you 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:58.400 should wait wait this was a bit. Yeah, I didn't. 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:00.400 I just came. It's a terrible bit. How would you 1:22:00.400 --> 1:22:01.080 do this? Sorry? 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:04.040 We laughed, we had fun, we love we did laugh. 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:07.240 But everyone on the podcast, everyone is good. Everyone's gonna 1:22:07.240 --> 1:22:10.680 hate you now, okay, that's I'm okay with that. You know, 1:22:11.240 --> 1:22:12.920 you know, like you're not doing something right if you're 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:16.639 not getting haters, and like, honestly, they'll probably they'll probably 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.000 get game community by like showing each other the video. 1:22:19.040 --> 1:22:20.720 Look at this dumb ass he cuts in the live. 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:23.920 He's an asshole. People will be the overall will be better. 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:26.560 And honestly, like when if people clip that, I'll be like, 1:22:26.640 --> 1:22:28.920 oh if you look at the NS And I was joking. 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:32.320 And can I can I clip this please? Because I 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:32.880 was thinking, you. 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:34.600 Know, I stick a while we having this antagonic can 1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:36.040 I actually I'm gonna tell you so, I'm gonna this 1:22:36.120 --> 1:22:37.840 is I might tell you me a hundred seriously you 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:38.080 right now. 1:22:38.560 --> 1:22:41.400 I was thinking, I was like, this would be a 1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:43.519 good clip, but I know that if I clip it, 1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:43.960 it's just. 1:22:44.040 --> 1:22:46.639 Gonna I've had I've had a time where I've done 1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:50.320 this podcast where I was in Portugal and I had 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:53.680 this uh lady on and I made a clip of 1:22:53.720 --> 1:22:56.080 her and I posted the clip and the clip like 1:22:56.160 --> 1:22:58.400 did well, it performed well, but all of the comments 1:22:58.439 --> 1:23:01.200 were just like fuck this lady, she sucks, and I'm like, 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:03.880 I don't like that's like, that's not what I'm like 1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:07.720 going for. I don't like feel comfortable with that, Like 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:10.000 that's not the kind of like what that's not like 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:11.960 what I'm That's really not what I'm trying to be about. 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:14.200 So I deleted the clip and I was thinking just now, 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:16.840 I was like, this would be a good clip, but 1:23:17.240 --> 1:23:20.360 if I post it, everyone in the comments is gonna 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:22.280 be like the fuck this guy, this guy sucks and 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:23.679 I'm not about That's not what I'm about. 1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:25.160 I'm not, I don't I'm not sure. I don't want 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:28.680 to like yours get views that way. Yeah, but if 1:23:28.720 --> 1:23:31.400 you're telling me, yes, I am. 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:34.800 But if you're saying to me you would you actively 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:40.519 I would want to subject yourself to that, then I will. 1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:42.120 Then I'm then I'll consider it. 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:46.000 I would love if you would consider it, and you 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:48.280 could even include a little bit at the end where 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:51.479 I said, now, I was just joking. If you felt 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:53.360 like that was maybe okay, you know what, you know 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.240 what I was, you know what, Maybe I could yeah, 1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:58.519 or you clip you could put in the description like X, 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:01.439 Y and Z by the way he was joking or whatever. 1:24:01.600 --> 1:24:03.559 No one's gonna see that, no, of course, but then 1:24:03.600 --> 1:24:04.880 you can say, oh, why didn't you read the caption 1:24:05.040 --> 1:24:09.519 before you said something? You know it's you, you know what, 1:24:09.720 --> 1:24:10.400 you know what I'm saying. 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:14.160 I'll clip it and then you hop in the comments 1:24:14.280 --> 1:24:17.040 in your merch thing. I love it and then you'll see. 1:24:17.080 --> 1:24:18.240 But I don't know if that'll work for you. I 1:24:18.280 --> 1:24:20.320 think you'll get like hate bomb. I think people will 1:24:20.680 --> 1:24:21.400 get upset with you. 1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:23.759 You know what. And that's more views for me, baby, 1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:25.519 I love it, and you know what, Like, if you 1:24:25.560 --> 1:24:27.360 guys want to go on my Instagram and give me 1:24:27.439 --> 1:24:29.920 some hate, I love it. Honestly. My only request is 1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:33.160 just be specific about what you dislike. They're no, they 1:24:33.160 --> 1:24:33.560 don't do that. 1:24:33.720 --> 1:24:35.599 They don't do it. No, they don't. They don't get specific. 1:24:35.720 --> 1:24:38.080 I'm just like if you guys, If you guys are 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:42.599 not specific, then I will be specific. But that's okay. 1:24:42.720 --> 1:24:46.120 I like and honestly, like I love everybody, and I 1:24:46.600 --> 1:24:47.800 do it for the love of the game. I do 1:24:47.880 --> 1:24:51.200 everything for the love of the game. Judah, Judah, Judah. 1:24:51.400 --> 1:24:53.280 Nice to meet you, Judas. Want to say to the 1:24:53.320 --> 1:24:54.400 people the computer before we go. 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:56.799 Yo, follow strut dot NYC. 1:24:56.960 --> 1:24:58.800 If you want to see some great, amazing art, come 1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:02.479 to the Washington Square Park Fountain. I'm here all the time, 1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:06.040 every other week, six days a week. I rocket, I 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:08.720 roll it, I squish it, I squash it. Piece of Love, 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:10.400 rock and roll. Nice to meet you, Judith. 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:11.760 Very nice to lead you. Take care brother. 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:16.040 What's your name. I'm Belle, Belle, Nice to meet you. 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:19.679 How's life going, bell It's it's going. 1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:27.240 Yeah, very cool. So that we don't have that could 1:25:27.240 --> 1:25:27.400 be it. 1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:29.680 I mean, how's your life going. 1:25:29.800 --> 1:25:30.720 My life's going all right? 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.080 How's the whole gecko thing? 1:25:34.439 --> 1:25:35.160 So it's just fun? 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:36.400 That's good. 1:25:37.960 --> 1:25:39.680 It could be it. That could be the whole com week. 1:25:39.760 --> 1:25:40.280 That could be it. 1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:42.400 I don't know how this works. I don't know how 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:42.880 this works. 1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:44.679 How does this work? 1:25:45.479 --> 1:25:48.680 Well? What are you doing in the park? How many 1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:50.559 people tell you that you look like Raven from Teen 1:25:50.600 --> 1:25:51.280 Titans a Day? 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:52.960 Never heard that before? 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:53.439 Shut up? 1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:54.920 You never heard that, But you've never heard that before 1:25:56.200 --> 1:25:58.960 you You're I'm talking to her friend off screen? 1:25:59.040 --> 1:26:02.439 Do you or do you agree with that? They said 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:05.320 they can see that? Do you? Can you see it? 1:26:05.920 --> 1:26:07.679 I don't know today I got Wednesday, Adam. 1:26:07.920 --> 1:26:11.200 So how do you feel about these comparisons? Do you 1:26:11.439 --> 1:26:11.680 do they? 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:15.080 I don't care. I mean I take it as a comp. 1:26:15.080 --> 1:26:19.360 Okay, good god, what do you What are you doing 1:26:19.400 --> 1:26:20.240 out in the park today? 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:26.360 Just hanging out with my friend? I mean, I didn't 1:26:26.360 --> 1:26:29.840 even plan to say this late, but then I don't know. 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:32.400 I saw you. I thought you before you had like 1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:35.320 the Gecko suit on. I thought you were like gonna 1:26:35.360 --> 1:26:36.719 cosplay Shrek or something. 1:26:37.120 --> 1:26:38.519 Yeah, that's what I get. A lot a lot of 1:26:38.560 --> 1:26:40.360 people come up to me when I'm just wearing the 1:26:42.400 --> 1:26:44.800 like I just have the face paint on, and people 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:47.760 are like, are you Shrek? Or someone will be like, oh, 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:50.120 are you the Hulk? Or like I get like this 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:53.000 I get when I'm wearing the costume or I'm wearing 1:26:53.120 --> 1:26:55.519 just the paint. I get a rotation of the same 1:26:55.760 --> 1:26:58.920 five things said to me constantly, and I don't have 1:26:59.000 --> 1:27:01.560 a clever thing to say back. So here's what I 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.080 normally say I usually or something like I'll be walking 1:27:04.120 --> 1:27:05.360 and something like why is your face screen? 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:08.439 And should be like, I'm a crazy green guy, and 1:27:08.479 --> 1:27:09.519 I'll just keep walking. 1:27:10.640 --> 1:27:10.800 Yea. 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:13.719 If someone's like, oh, I've seen your videos and I'm like, okay, 1:27:13.720 --> 1:27:15.360 thank you, I appreciate it. But if it's just someone 1:27:15.360 --> 1:27:19.760 who's like, why is your face screen? Sometimes sometimes I'll 1:27:19.760 --> 1:27:21.240 be like, oh, I was doing interviews in the park. 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:27.160 But normally I'll just be like I'm crazy. That, which 1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:28.200 works too. It's a little true. 1:27:31.240 --> 1:27:32.879 That could be it. That could be the whole conversation. 1:27:34.040 --> 1:27:35.880 No, you seem like you want You've been standing over 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:37.960 there the entire time I've been doing this. 1:27:38.720 --> 1:27:40.400 I mean, I don't know how this works. 1:27:40.479 --> 1:27:43.439 I was just like, you asked me another, ask me 1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:44.040 another question. 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:46.200 How'd you get into this? 1:27:48.479 --> 1:27:50.040 Wait? What do you study? What do you do with 1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:50.559 your life? 1:27:50.760 --> 1:27:52.640 Do you study something? Do you work at something? Do 1:27:52.720 --> 1:27:57.120 you yeah, fashion or study fashion? Oh you're an F 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:59.320 I T yeah, I almost went to F. I t 1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:02.040 oh what I have to Okay, I was about it. 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:05.960 I almost went that by a different film. Oh yeah, 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:07.479 we talked about this a little bit. I almost went 1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:09.000 that by different film. I was talking to my parents 1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:12.080 about it. My dad my parents were both like, you're 1:28:12.120 --> 1:28:14.839 gonna be the only straight man at the entire. 1:28:16.120 --> 1:28:16.679 That's not true. 1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:17.320 Is that true? 1:28:17.800 --> 1:28:21.960 I mean, you would definitely be a minority. But that's 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:24.960 definitely not true. I will say, if you're a straight 1:28:25.280 --> 1:28:28.800 man there, all all the girls come to you because 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:29.799 there's so many girls. 1:28:30.439 --> 1:28:32.479 Is that true? Is that true? Do all the girls come? 1:28:33.280 --> 1:28:33.640 Is that how? 1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:33.720 That? 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:35.400 Is that really how that works? 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:37.240 Unfortunately? Yes? 1:28:37.880 --> 1:28:38.720 Or is it more like. 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:43.200 Or is it like teacher hot you know where, Like 1:28:43.280 --> 1:28:46.320 it's like they're around, so they're hotter. 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:48.080 You know what I mean, the teachers? 1:28:48.680 --> 1:28:51.080 Well, like you know what I mean, Like, uh, how 1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:51.600 do I say this? 1:28:51.880 --> 1:28:56.200 Like okay, whatever, Like yeah, it's because because uh, there's 1:28:56.240 --> 1:29:00.200 so few men around. You mean, that's that's who you're 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:02.320 forced to find attractive. Is just who's there? 1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:05.759 Yeah, basically, But I mean that's kind of what happens. 1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:09.360 Like I feel like I feel like half the girls 1:29:09.400 --> 1:29:12.880 sleep with like the same like five guys at least 1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:13.559 from what I've heard. 1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:18.040 So, dude, what do the guys study? 1:29:18.080 --> 1:29:22.360 They study fashion, all different types of things. I don't know, Okay, 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:24.280 I don't I don't talk to the guys that much 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:26.720 except for him, and he's gay. 1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:31.639 So what do you think is the future of fashion? 1:29:32.880 --> 1:29:35.120 AI will probably take over and none of us will 1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:35.880 have jobs anymore. 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:37.000 So really you think? 1:29:37.080 --> 1:29:37.120 So? 1:29:37.520 --> 1:29:37.720 Yeah? 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:39.280 I mean it's already happening. 1:29:39.200 --> 1:29:41.519 So what and how do you believe it's started happening? 1:29:42.280 --> 1:29:44.200 I mean every time I open my phone, I'm like, 1:29:45.160 --> 1:29:47.920 I'm like, oh, this is a cool like fashion runway, 1:29:48.080 --> 1:29:49.719 and then I'm like, wait, this is Ai? 1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:55.439 But there was like it's AI is in like like 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:57.800 the runway is AI? Or the closer AI? 1:29:58.360 --> 1:29:59.839 Like the whole video was AI. 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:01.240 Did? 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:05.800 Did a human at least prompt it? Because here let 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:07.160 me tell well, I guess sorry, let me say here's 1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:08.960 my here's kind of my thoughts about AI is like 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:15.479 I've seen that like the genuinely good things I've seen. 1:30:15.400 --> 1:30:18.000 With AI, because like, all right, you can go into 1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:21.240 chat GBT, right and you can be like make a 1:30:21.439 --> 1:30:24.639 dress that looks cool and one hundred percent of the time. 1:30:24.479 --> 1:30:26.040 It's gonna make something that's like kind of lame. 1:30:26.960 --> 1:30:29.679 But like the fun the things I've seen with AI 1:30:29.800 --> 1:30:34.519 that are like genuinely funny, I'm like, Okay, I like 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:37.160 I can tell that that like the tools used to 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:40.759 make that, to like to generate this, uh, were AI. 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:45.120 But I can tell that a human being who is 1:30:45.240 --> 1:30:51.040 funny must be orchestrating this. But a great example is 1:30:51.240 --> 1:30:55.360 I think it's called like fat Fellas on Instagram Fat 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:58.160 Fella Season or something. It's just like a it's these 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:01.639 AI videos of these like ob guys like doing heists 1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:04.360 and like riding on yachts and stuff, and it's super 1:31:04.400 --> 1:31:07.240 funny and it's all AI generated, but it's you can 1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:10.719 tell that a funny person use. 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:11.640 AI to make it. 1:31:12.640 --> 1:31:17.120 So I guess we could live in a world where like, okay, yeah, 1:31:17.160 --> 1:31:19.280 people are using AI, but you can tell that there 1:31:19.400 --> 1:31:23.000 is human intent behind the tools. 1:31:24.200 --> 1:31:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying. I feel 1:31:26.040 --> 1:31:29.560 like half of like the memes on my Instagram or 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:31.000 AI now, but. 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:33.400 It's like but they're funny, but they have they're funny 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:34.360 enough where you can. 1:31:34.479 --> 1:31:40.640 Yeah made it some some the ethos of it was 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:42.120 created in a human's mind. 1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:44.320 Yeah yeah, I don't know. Do you agree with that 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.200 or I do think I'm being bullshitty right now. 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:47.880 You can fight back by the way you said you 1:31:47.920 --> 1:31:50.200 didn't know how this works, but you can you can 1:31:50.280 --> 1:31:52.479 fight back if you disagree with anything I'm saying. 1:31:53.400 --> 1:31:56.000 I mean, I I don't disagree. I mean I sometimes 1:31:56.080 --> 1:31:58.519 I'm just like scrolling and I think the AI stuff 1:31:58.600 --> 1:32:02.200 is funny and like sometimes like not even funny, Like 1:32:02.320 --> 1:32:05.200 my mom always sends me like cute videos to animals 1:32:05.240 --> 1:32:06.519 that are like obviously AI. 1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:07.720 That stuff I don't like. 1:32:08.680 --> 1:32:10.599 I don't like like I don't like like the AI 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:13.599 animals like AI hot girls. 1:32:13.800 --> 1:32:15.360 Oh yeah, that that makes me cringe. 1:32:15.479 --> 1:32:16.800 That makes it I don't like that at all. 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:19.400 I like, Yeah, there's like certain things about that that 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:22.080 like ick me out because there's like this new thing 1:32:22.160 --> 1:32:26.599 where like people are like AI like like I guess, 1:32:26.680 --> 1:32:30.639 like deefaking, like people with like disabilities and like down 1:32:30.720 --> 1:32:34.240 syndrome for like only fans, Like I don't know, it's 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:35.080 like this weird thing. 1:32:35.320 --> 1:32:37.479 There's a lot of yeah, like oh well, there's a 1:32:37.479 --> 1:32:42.160 lot of like only fans like uh like like where 1:32:42.160 --> 1:32:44.720 it's like it's like a lady's only fans, she's like 1:32:44.800 --> 1:32:47.680 chatting with people, but it's not yeah yeah, you know, 1:32:48.040 --> 1:32:50.360 which makes sense because I think if you're chatting with 1:32:50.439 --> 1:32:53.880 a lady on only fans, it's ninety nine percent of 1:32:53.880 --> 1:32:57.400 the time it's not her anyway, so naturally it would 1:32:57.479 --> 1:32:59.160 lead to the point where it's like, well, none of 1:32:59.200 --> 1:33:00.960 it is and it's just some. 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:04.920 Guy creating a thing. 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:10.400 Yeah yeah, I mean, I like it seems new now, 1:33:10.600 --> 1:33:13.120 but like it was, like wasn't it like ten years 1:33:13.160 --> 1:33:16.560 ago that like that whole little Mickayla thing who like 1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:19.479 went viral, Like there was this girl, Lil Michayla that 1:33:19.640 --> 1:33:23.400 went viral for being like the first like AI influencer, 1:33:23.840 --> 1:33:26.519 like before AI blew up. This was like ten years ago. 1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:28.360 Oh okay, Yeah I know, I know, yeah, I know 1:33:28.439 --> 1:33:31.280 it's not a new thing, but yeah, I don't know. 1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:32.519 I I do. 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:41.360 Wonder how, I do wonder how successful those things will 1:33:41.439 --> 1:33:44.120 be because I do believe that, like you know, when 1:33:44.160 --> 1:33:46.680 you follow, like like I was thinking about it to like, 1:33:46.760 --> 1:33:49.599 like I listened to podcasts and I watch YouTube videos. Yeah, 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:53.120 there are some YouTube videos where I'm like, like, if 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:55.519 I'm watching a like I watch a lot of like 1:33:55.720 --> 1:34:01.559 video game trivia shit, and it's like if I'm watching 1:34:01.600 --> 1:34:05.519 a video game trivia hour two hours of GameCube facts video, 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:11.479 I probably won't notice if it's made by AI. Yeah right, 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:15.320 but if I'm if I'm listening to a two hour 1:34:15.400 --> 1:34:17.800 long video of like a guy telling his life story 1:34:18.479 --> 1:34:19.960 that I'm gonna be able to tell if it's AI. 1:34:20.439 --> 1:34:20.600 You know. 1:34:20.800 --> 1:34:25.000 So it's like these things, the things that are more 1:34:25.240 --> 1:34:28.840 pure and authentic and personal, I think will persist, and 1:34:28.920 --> 1:34:31.080 the things that are impersonal, Like I was just talking 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:36.200 to that guy Judah about like commercial art will probably be. 1:34:36.320 --> 1:34:36.960 Done by AI. 1:34:37.439 --> 1:34:40.280 Yeah, but yeah, I think the art and the things 1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:44.840 that are like impersonal and inauthentic and surface level will 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:46.800 probably be replaced. But the things that are really deep 1:34:46.920 --> 1:34:50.760 and you know, writing that's very personal and and art, 1:34:50.800 --> 1:34:53.120 and you know, even visual art and fashion that's it's 1:34:53.280 --> 1:34:58.000 personal and has stories to it, I think we'll continue 1:34:58.040 --> 1:35:01.120 to persist because people buy into those things, because they 1:35:01.520 --> 1:35:04.479 buy into the you know, the human beings behind them. 1:35:05.080 --> 1:35:06.840 You know, when I'm listening to a two hour long 1:35:06.960 --> 1:35:10.080 video about YouTube trivia, I'm just trying about about fucking 1:35:10.080 --> 1:35:11.920 GameCube trivia. I'm just trying to zone out. I'm not 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:14.880 really connecting to anything human in that sense. 1:35:15.280 --> 1:35:18.840 Yeah, I mean I hope, I definitely hope like what 1:35:18.960 --> 1:35:22.240 you're saying stays true, But like I feel like I've 1:35:22.280 --> 1:35:26.200 already seen some stuff where like I've seen like these 1:35:26.280 --> 1:35:30.360 videos on Instagram where they look real and then they're like, oh, 1:35:30.439 --> 1:35:32.479 by the way, this is AI, Like it's like one 1:35:32.520 --> 1:35:34.519 of those like street interviews. I guess kind of like 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:38.640 this and like sure, it like seems like personal and 1:35:38.760 --> 1:35:41.160 then they're like, wait, this is AI and they're like 1:35:41.320 --> 1:35:43.360 look at look at the fingers or whatever, and I'm like, 1:35:44.000 --> 1:35:46.120 I didn't notice that at all, and it's kind of scary. 1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:48.320 So like, I hope what you're saying stays true. 1:35:48.360 --> 1:35:51.320 But yeah, but that but the person who's using AI 1:35:51.640 --> 1:35:52.280 to make. 1:35:53.640 --> 1:35:57.320 The fake video of the person telling the fake story, 1:35:57.479 --> 1:36:00.400 that's a short term game because they're never are gonna 1:36:00.439 --> 1:36:02.599 build any I don't think you're gonna build anything long 1:36:02.720 --> 1:36:05.040 term off of that, you know, like because that's just 1:36:05.120 --> 1:36:06.880 just like if you're just usn't have to trick people, 1:36:06.920 --> 1:36:08.599 that's not gonna be a lung. Like I don't think 1:36:08.880 --> 1:36:11.519 like like people like people are listening to this podcast. 1:36:11.680 --> 1:36:15.880 We're two human beings having a conversation. If people found 1:36:15.920 --> 1:36:19.120 out that like this was AI, I don't think people 1:36:19.120 --> 1:36:20.320 would listen to this. 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:24.320 But what if this was actually AI and they never 1:36:24.439 --> 1:36:25.120 knew Yo. 1:36:26.000 --> 1:36:28.559 That would be quite a long time I guess it's true. 1:36:29.320 --> 1:36:33.160 I guess it's true that people like this could this 1:36:33.200 --> 1:36:34.400 whole thing could be AI. 1:36:34.880 --> 1:36:37.760 Cause like it's like, you don't technically have to be 1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:41.400 like this is an AI podcast. So there could be 1:36:41.520 --> 1:36:44.120 like podcasts and videos out there that are all AI 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:45.160 and they're just so good. 1:36:45.200 --> 1:36:47.880 But if you're doing but I think if you're doing 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:52.320 something in the long term, people will find out if 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:52.800 it's a I. 1:36:53.960 --> 1:36:57.080 Some people are really committed. I mean, if people can 1:36:57.160 --> 1:37:01.320 be like serial killers and like never get like found 1:37:01.360 --> 1:37:03.960 out until they're like they die or like ever. 1:37:05.280 --> 1:37:09.240 Then I get I don't know, I don't know. That 1:37:09.280 --> 1:37:11.360 would be just such a syop. You'd have to do 1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:14.000 we sure, I guess right. Like so I feel that 1:37:14.080 --> 1:37:15.840 with like music, like a lot of people are making 1:37:15.920 --> 1:37:20.280 using aadomic music. But people don't buy into music in 1:37:20.479 --> 1:37:24.439 terms of like the tracks themselves, right. People buy into 1:37:24.640 --> 1:37:28.719 the artists. They buy into the personality behind the music. 1:37:28.840 --> 1:37:31.920 They want to see the tour, they wanna, you know, 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:35.600 collect connect with the story. They like the brand or 1:37:35.680 --> 1:37:37.160 the aesthetic that the artist. 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:37.880 Is getting into. 1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:40.920 And it's like, well, you could probably fake someone out 1:37:41.040 --> 1:37:43.320 for a couple of years, right to be like an 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:45.360 AI rapper or whatever the fuck. 1:37:45.479 --> 1:37:48.599 But like, I don't, I don't think you can. 1:37:51.040 --> 1:37:55.240 I think that stuff will will probably exist, but I 1:37:55.280 --> 1:37:58.519 don't think it's gonna wipe out the people who are 1:37:58.720 --> 1:38:01.360 authentically attempting to make artists human beings. 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:05.160 Yeah. I mean there are like AI artists, but they're 1:38:06.160 --> 1:38:08.559 not like people know their AI, right. 1:38:08.479 --> 1:38:09.200 People know their AI. 1:38:09.280 --> 1:38:11.040 And I assume that the AI artists that are very 1:38:11.080 --> 1:38:16.120 successful are people who have some level of intention behind 1:38:16.360 --> 1:38:18.320 their art and are just using the AI as the 1:38:18.439 --> 1:38:21.439 tools and are not just being like, generate a cool 1:38:21.520 --> 1:38:23.320 picture for me, you know. 1:38:24.840 --> 1:38:26.760 I mean, I don't. I don't know. You never know 1:38:26.880 --> 1:38:27.599 with the future. 1:38:27.760 --> 1:38:30.479 I'm just like, you know, we gotta know what's your 1:38:30.560 --> 1:38:30.960 name again? 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:31.400 Bell? 1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:33.720 You know, we gotta do Bell what we gotta live 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:39.200 in the present. Yeah, I mean we can well Bell 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.000 that Ryan's That's Uh. 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:42.680 This is it. 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:43.919 This is the end of the podcast. 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:45.960 Okay, is there anything else you want to say to 1:38:46.000 --> 1:38:47.360 the people the computer before we go? 1:38:48.640 --> 1:38:49.960 I know, have a great day. 1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:56.760 Thank you all for listening to the Therapy Gecko podcasts. 1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:00.360 Uh my name is Lyle, I'm a gecko. 1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:01.200 This was fun. 1:39:01.240 --> 1:39:03.800 You were here the whole time. Yeah, who do we 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:06.240 talk to? What was the name of the first lady? 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:11.320 Anna? Anna? No, the first guy was Kai was a Kai? No, 1:39:11.400 --> 1:39:14.880 it was Jay. First guy was Jay. Then it was Anna, 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:16.960 and it was Judah, and then it was Bell. 1:39:17.120 --> 1:39:19.960 First time in my entire life I've remembered the names 1:39:20.000 --> 1:39:22.080 of everyone who's talked on. 1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:22.840 The on the show. 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:26.240 Maybe that was a good That was a good gang, 1:39:26.360 --> 1:39:29.960 that was a good We had some good conversations. What 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:31.160 do you what do you I mean, what do you 1:39:31.200 --> 1:39:33.000 think you were standing there? Did you enjoy it as 1:39:33.040 --> 1:39:33.640 a bystander? 1:39:33.840 --> 1:39:35.320 Yeah, I mean a lot of this stuff I heard. 1:39:35.400 --> 1:39:36.839 I was like, this is interesting. 1:39:38.000 --> 1:39:42.400 Yeah, good enough, good enough? All right, thanks for listening. 1:39:42.920 --> 1:39:50.160 Gek Bless. I'll see you around the universe. Oh yeah 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:53.599 on Friday. What this is coming out Sunday? Oh yeah, 1:39:53.640 --> 1:39:55.559 this week I'm gonna put out my Tijuana video. 1:39:55.720 --> 1:39:59.120 So go go look out for that. I'm a get go. 1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:03.880 Everything's gonna be fine, Everything's gonna be fine, Belle. This 1:40:04.000 --> 1:40:06.080 is where it's a long outru I should just end it. 1:40:06.560 --> 1:40:10.559 Right, alright, I see your podcast it as long as you. 1:40:10.760 --> 1:40:13.200 Right, all right, it's it is. It's gonna be over 1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:17.760 in three two one now