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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Therapy Gecko podcast, or

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Speaker 1: welcome for the first time if you're listening for the

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Speaker 1: first time. This is a gek irl episode, meaning that

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Speaker 1: I'm actually not alone in a dark room talking to

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Speaker 1: other people alone in a dark room. I am in

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Speaker 1: It's the evening time, it's a Friday night. I had

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Speaker 1: no other plans. I can't think of anything I would

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Speaker 1: this EI. There's nothing. What am I gonna do? I

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Speaker 1: go to a bar, talk to I'll talk to way

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Speaker 1: I would maybe I'd be lucky if I talked to

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Speaker 1: So these are so for me. It's a solid Friday

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Speaker 1: night plan. Uh, we're gonna talk to some people. Normally

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Speaker 1: you know. So we're gonna try to do this once

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Speaker 1: a week to a weekly Gecko I r L episode,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk to some people. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that want to talk. I'm not gonna get

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Speaker 1: and we're not gonna get hung up with the ones

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Speaker 2: That's life for you. Okay, all right, let's talk to

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Speaker 2: some people. How's it going man? What's your name?

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Speaker 3: My name is Jay Jay. Nice to meet you, Jay.

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Speaker 3: What's going on, Jay? How's life? You know what? It's okay,

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Speaker 3: it's okay for the most part. Yeah. I just got

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Speaker 3: Oh from where are you moving from? I came from Atlanta?

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Speaker 4: You know, I've got I've got mixed feelings about New

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, why'd you come here school? Oh why am

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Speaker 3: are you all right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I was over at at Scatt doing film Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So are you at Tish the film school? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know it was what Okay, I really got to know.

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Speaker 1: So I went to film school. I went to Temple

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Speaker 1: But the actual curriculum, they don't really teach you how

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Speaker 1: I mean film school is so outdated down Is that correct?

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Speaker 4: Like I think that most of what you get at

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Speaker 1: Right, So what's uh what's your like, dream man?

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Speaker 3: What do you want out of life? Uh? Oh?

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Speaker 4: I want to be in my crib just writing scripts

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Speaker 1: And some people are good at like getting really high

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Speaker 1: I've been getting high before for almost ten years. Right,

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Speaker 4: The day right before I left, my friends were like, hey,

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Speaker 4: And it like and there were like other ideas pitched around.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. It's important to learn it's okay

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Speaker 1: I didn't come out with this, but I was watching

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Speaker 1: shout Out this guy doctor K. You know, Doctor K's

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Speaker 1: like a YouTube guy. He's like a YouTube mental health dude.

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Speaker 1: You look on your film, on your film career. You

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Speaker 6: Going in it's going?

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Speaker 1: I wanna wait, tell me why I don't like Breaking Bad?

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Speaker 6: Everyone hates on Skyler for no reason. She's a cool

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Speaker 1: There's a scene so throughout Breaking Bad which Skyler discovers

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Speaker 1: The real answer is uh, kind of complicated and boring,

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Speaker 3: Whatever. How hard do you have to work for three

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Speaker 6: Not that hard, It's not that hard. No, anyone could

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Speaker 3: Oh really, wyt just drop psychology?

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Speaker 6: I dropped psychology because I like went through a phase

445
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 6: of really liking perfume and bras and my parents were like,

446
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,959
Speaker 6: you love expensive things, like yeah, I do, And then

447
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,919
Speaker 6: they made me feel like a poor person if I

448
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 6: did psychology.

449
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Speaker 5: So I was like, all right, fair enough?

450
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah no, And.

451
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 1: I there are certain I have, Like there's certain things

452
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: like I don't cook.

453
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 3: I just like I don't.

454
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 1: I just like go and I get like I I

455
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store and I get uh sushi,

456
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: like the little grocery store sushi, and I get a

457
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,879
Speaker 1: rotisserie chicken. And I'm like, Okay, now I need to

458
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 1: have enough money to afford my rotisserie chicken and grocery

459
00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,399
Speaker 1: store sushi. You know your lifestyle and flates. Yeah, grocery

460
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 1: store sushi and uh a rotisserie chicken are my perfume

461
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: and bras?

462
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

463
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, you're you're why do therapists? Therapists

464
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: make some money, don't.

465
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Speaker 6: They're all right, it's a it's a good struggle for

466
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 6: a good five six years, but they're right. Did you

467
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 6: go to college?

468
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 3: I did go to college.

469
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Speaker 5: Where did you go?

470
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Speaker 1: I went to Temple University for film school. I was

471
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: just talking to the previous gentleman about film school. Yeah,

472
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: what the hell was I going to say?

473
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, how much money? Uh is enough for you?

474
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,399
Speaker 3: How much money do you think you need to?

475
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 6: I don't know. I'd say, like, my goal in this

476
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 6: life is probably two hundred. To max out at two

477
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 6: hundred a year, yes, thousand a year, yeah, all right.

478
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: To wait to max out at Yeah.

479
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Speaker 6: I think at the height of my career that would

480
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Speaker 6: be a goal for me.

481
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Speaker 3: Very cool, two hundred. So what is like? So what's

482
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Speaker 3: the future like?

483
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be like in like a Manhattan high rise,

484
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,719
Speaker 1: like telling people to run the numbers?

485
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

486
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 6: I think I want to go to I Live. I'm

487
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 6: from Boston. I think I want to go there. Okay,

488
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 6: Chestnut Hill Country Club, take care of my parents.

489
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you want the whole, you want the whole? You

490
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: know what? Can I say something? Okay, I I I

491
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: said this.

492
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Speaker 1: I'm not being the slightest. She's facetious. I think I

493
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: respect openly admitting wanting to be rich.

494
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 6: I don't Yeah, okay, I'm gonna say something about this.

495
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 3: Go ahead, this is a hot take, and take if

496
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: you go ahead, whatever it is.

497
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Speaker 6: I think people that are gold diggers like get too

498
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 6: much hate. I think they get too much hate. I

499
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 6: hate to say I'm not saying openly I'm a gold digger,

500
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 6: but I think they just get like to.

501
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 3: Like, you know what, yeah, shut out to you?

502
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: Well, a gold digger like uh, like okay, a gold digger,

503
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: I feel like it's traditionally a gold digger would be

504
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: somebody who like is in like some form of romantic

505
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: relationship with somebody. For are you using it like that

506
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: or using it or using gold digger as a catch

507
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: all phrase for anyone who is acting who actively choose

508
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: money in any form.

509
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 6: I think I meant the first, the former.

510
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Speaker 3: The former, Yes, okay, would you prefer to just marry Rich?

511
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: No?

512
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: Actually, okay, I would like to marry Rich. That's fine,

513
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 6: fine my me. I don't like care. I think I

514
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 6: want to be able to hit a certain point where

515
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 6: I have enough money to do what I really want.

516
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 3: What do you really want?

517
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 5: I don't know.

518
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 6: I think I want to start a business. I want

519
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: to do something cool.

520
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Here's a problem I want to tell jam And here's

521
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: here's a problem. I'm gonna tell you. The problem is

522
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: that uh, actually I I sort of I sort of

523
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: eat these words, but I do I have been thinking

524
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 1: about them.

525
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Is when you kind of I think, like, uh, when

526
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: you delay a thing where you're like okay, once I

527
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: have enough money. What was on my head?

528
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Speaker 5: Sorry?

529
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: Oh it's okay. Wait is everything all right?

530
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

531
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Speaker 6: I just want to I just want to know if

532
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 6: it was like squishy.

533
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 3: That's okay.

534
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: It is.

535
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: When you delay keep going a thing like oh I

536
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: want to start a business, but I need enough money

537
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: to do it, I feel like like you keep moving

538
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: the goalposts a little bit.

539
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 3: I do. I found I found that in my life,

540
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: and here we are, and here we are, and you've

541
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: done it. Although I found you know I found here,

542
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: I'll tellt you. I'll tell you this. I found that

543
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: in my life.

544
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: Although I there are there have been I will say

545
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: certain things that I wanted to do where I was like, Okay,

546
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: once I'm at this particular point in my life, I'll

547
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: do this. And it did actually work that way where

548
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: I did. Where once I was at that particular point

549
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: in life, I will I.

550
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 3: Will do this.

551
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you something, and maybe since

552
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 6: you're here and you're talking to everyone, maybe you'll give

553
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 6: me your feedback. Go ahead, And I think lately, don't

554
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 6: freak out when I say that.

555
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna freak out. Go ahead, or I might

556
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 3: but you might freak out.

557
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 6: I think death has been calling my name in my sleep. Uh,

558
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 6: you're so regretting me inviting inviting me on this chair

559
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 6: right now. Uh that that doesn't free I tell me

560
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 6: what your thoughts are on that.

561
00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: It's very funny.

562
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: I hear you say that that might freak me out,

563
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: because all I fucking talk about on this podcast is

564
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 1: existential anxiety and death and whatnot.

565
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: Okay it why do you why is death calling your name?

566
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

567
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 6: My gosh, I just ever since my uncle died like

568
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 6: earlier this year, shout out to him. It was just

569
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 6: like it kind of felt it creeping up on me.

570
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 6: Like sometimes I'll have like still moments and you can

571
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 6: really feel time and like nappiness of it. But also

572
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 6: how fast, how fast it's going.

573
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little it's a little terrifying.

574
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Speaker 6: And I feel like I feel this sense that there's

575
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 6: like death looming over me, almost like a cloud, like

576
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 6: a cloud looming over me, and it's death and it's

577
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 6: calling me, and it's saying, are you gonna pick up

578
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 6: the phone?

579
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, well, I mean you die every day.

580
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 6: What do you mean?

581
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Death is not a thing? Death is not one singular event.

582
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: It's every day. I'm making such a bubber. But uh,

583
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: it's you die a little bit every day.

584
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: Every day you're a day, you're a second older, you

585
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: creep a little bit, You're at you.

586
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Like life is a terminal illness. Yes, it's such a

587
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: I gotta stop being so nihilistic.

588
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 3: But what's fair?

589
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: But okay, when you say death is calling your name,

590
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: does that mean like you think you're going to die soon,

591
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: or you've just been thinking a lot about death, or

592
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: you want to kill yourself.

593
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 6: I don't want to kill myself. Okay, it's not a

594
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 6: suicidal thing. I'm not Okay, I'm not suicide. It's sounds

595
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 6: like a depressing thing. It's just like, uh, it's more

596
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 6: like I can kind of see an hourglass and the

597
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 6: sand is sifting down, and every minute I can feel

598
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 6: the sand sifting down, and it's like part of me.

599
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 6: When I first felt this, I felt like so angry

600
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 6: to have been given the gift of life and like

601
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 6: how good it is and sweet and amazing and lovely. Yeah,

602
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 6: and I almost felt like betrayed.

603
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's all going to like.

604
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 6: Go like, why what the fuck am I?

605
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Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

606
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 4: Ye?

607
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

608
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you actually, Uh, what you are talking about is

609
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: the most persistent thought I have been having for the

610
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: last six months.

611
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: You enjoy your life?

612
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 5: Uh?

613
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes I do. Sometimes sometimes I'm like that. Sometimes I

614
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: hear death. Sometimes I feel what you just described. I

615
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: feel death calling over me, and I'm like, we had

616
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: a good round.

617
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: Let's just get it over with, you know.

618
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 5: I know something.

619
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was on Reddit the other day. I love Reddit,

620
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 6: and I was on Reddit and this one guy is

621
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 6: asking his grandfather like, what does it feel like to

622
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: grow old?

623
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: To age?

624
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 5: And the grandfather says to him, it's.

625
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: Like taking a shower, yes, and and the water colder

626
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: and cold.

627
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 6: You know exactly what I'm talking.

628
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the same Reddit post, however long ago

629
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: that was. I think about that red post very often. Yeah,

630
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I know the exact redit post. Yeah that that spooked

631
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: me a little bit. But you know it's funny.

632
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. But fuck that guy, because.

633
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 6: That's a really good analogy.

634
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 5: That's yeah.

635
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's one guy, right, Like I talked

636
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: to my I talked to my dad about death a

637
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, and my dad was like, you know,

638
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: the older I get and the less time I have

639
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: on this earth, the less anxious I am. He was like,

640
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm in my I'm having like an existential crisis, and

641
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm in my dad's I'm in my basement at my

642
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: dad's house.

643
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: And and he's like practicing his putting.

644
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: He's been playing golf for like thirty years, and he's

645
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: like fucking doing like a practice swing. And he's talking

646
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: to me, and he's like, Yeah, the less time I

647
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: have on earth, the less anxious I feel.

648
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: When I was young, I had so many problems. Now

649
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: don't I don't really have any problems.

650
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 6: You know.

651
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: Louis c k does this bit where he's like, you know,

652
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm fifty two years old. I feel pretty good. When

653
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: you're young, it's hard you have. You know, if you're twenty,

654
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: you've got about fifty to sixty years to not be

655
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: homeless or alone during Yeah, but the older you get,

656
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, we're just get We're getting there.

657
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: Pretty good, We're.

658
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 6: Getting there, you know, where are we going?

659
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: I also like, I see, well, I see older people

660
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: all over the city too, and doing great.

661
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 6: I'm not afraid of aging. That's kind of how I

662
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: like made the distinction in my head. It's like, I

663
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 6: see older woman I love I love older women.

664
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: They don't get me doing so well, right, they're not

665
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: having existential crises.

666
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 5: But it's like the sleep. It's the sleep.

667
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 6: It's like the nothingness that kind of kills me a little.

668
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: It's true.

669
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: Well, I think we're both in the same boat. You

670
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 6: don't have to impart any advice on.

671
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Me, isn't This isn't advice. This is just we're just pondering.

672
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: But I was talking to a friend about that. Yeah,

673
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: I've been talking everyone. Yeah, I've been talking everyone about this.

674
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: You know, we've been dead for like ever. We've been

675
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: dead for infinite time. We've been dead for billions of years,

676
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: so the fact that we're gonna be dead for billions

677
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: more is fine.

678
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: We're actually more used to being dead than we are

679
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: to being alive, so it's gonna be a fine. You know,

680
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: we were not. We spent way.

681
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 5: More time being Are you prepared to die?

682
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: I'm prepared to die if you.

683
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: If I had to die tomorrow, i'd be terrified, But

684
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: I did a I'm very happy with how I like

685
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: have spent my life thus far. I'm like, it's the

686
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: greatest blessing I could possibly have. As I'm feeling. I

687
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: feel extremely content with how my twenty seven years have gone.

688
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: They've been They've had plenty of times of like a

689
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: terror and anxiety and depressed fear and depression, a lot

690
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: of bad things, and a lot of sadness and whatnot,

691
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: but also just such incredible uh charm and joy.

692
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: You know, So, I don't I have no regrets. I

693
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: mean I I have a few. I have a few regrets.

694
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: I regret.

695
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: I regret anytime that I was an asshole. I regret

696
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: times in the future that I might be an asshole.

697
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: What was the most asshole thing that you've done?

698
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: Who knows?

699
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: But I regret anytimes I was an asshole. I kind

700
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: of regret times that I was that I was worried,

701
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: but not even really that was just part of it.

702
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I mayly regret times of an asshole more than I

703
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: regret times that I was worried, because the worrying was

704
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: part of the journey.

705
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: The journey. Yeah, do you have any regrets? I mean, yeah,

706
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: do you have any regrets?

707
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 6: I think I'll I have a few regrats. I'd say, yeah,

708
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: anytime I've been an asshole. Oh, God, I'm such an asshole.

709
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: But when were you an asshole? Well?

710
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 6: I can't say that because you didn't even answer mine.

711
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 5: You just subtly swiched.

712
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 2: Hold on, actually, let me try to remember the last

713
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: time I was an asshole, uh to someone.

714
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I don't know I've been I could remember, I don't.

715
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember specific things. But I've been terse

716
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: to people, you know the word turs like uh like fast,

717
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: like yeah, rude, yeah, yeah, I've been addiced sometimes.

718
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: Sure.

719
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: And I think and anytime I was a dick, it

720
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: was because I was angry. But I was never a

721
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: dick because I was angry about the thing. I was

722
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: a dick because if something else that I was upset

723
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: by that was outside of.

724
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: The Yeah, when you're angry, it's like, okay, I'm an

725
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: angry person. I can I can be an angry person.

726
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 6: I'm calm like ninety five percent of the time. Five

727
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 6: percent of the time I'm like really angry for some reason.

728
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 6: You're just like constantly reading me as we keep going.

729
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 6: And I think that being angry, it's it's more about

730
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 6: something that's unresolved within yourself, right, I mean, call me

731
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 6: spiritual or whatever.

732
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 5: But truly, like.

733
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: Truly, I think like, if you're angry, there's just something

734
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 6: wrong and you're angry with yourself and this is just

735
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 6: a reflection and how you're you're showing it to the

736
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 6: external world.

737
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I fully agree, but it's not true anger. Yeah,

738
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh I fully yeah, I fully agree.

739
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: I think if you're to be angry at the anytime

740
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: I've been angry at the external world, it's usually because

741
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: of like I'm a bad like what like, if I'm

742
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: in a good mood, I don't give a shit about

743
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: fucking anything. I know, there's nothing that could piss me

744
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: off really if I'm in a good mood, you know.

745
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: So those are the things I would regret, is times

746
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: where yeah, I was an asshole.

747
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: But the aging thing is interesting.

748
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look at like, you know, I think about

749
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: it's like look at like I'm mean, look at like

750
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: the president.

751
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: He's like seventy nine years old or whatever.

752
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: Like still going he's seventy nine, and he's acting like,

753
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean, for better or for worse, but he's acting

754
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: like he's just never gonna die, you know. Yeah, I

755
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: want like, like how often does he fucking think about

756
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: the fact he's gonna die. He's probably gonna die in

757
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: the next like, you know, his time's fucking coming. But

758
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever thinks about it, you know,

759
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: or look at like uh, or look at like Bernie Sanders. Right,

760
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: he's like eighty three, and he was just on stage

761
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: at Coachella. Yeah, he was at Coachelle. He's on stage

762
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: at Coachella to talk about you know, all of his things.

763
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: And he's still working. He's still doing yeah things.

764
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: It's hilarious, but you know, like and it time.

765
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: It's funny. The people who are having existential crisises tend

766
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: to be younger people. Older people are just shown. There's

767
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: there's like seventy five year old dudes at this park

768
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: just reading the book They're gonna die soon and they're

769
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: not thinking, oh I'm gonna die soon, and they're just.

770
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 6: I think the more you grow old, the more you

771
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: kind of accepted it and you don't care. You're less

772
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: care free.

773
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like you're dad. Yeah, I think my dad

774
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: is I was kind of accepted it.

775
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 6: He's kind of I think so, yeah, I think shower's

776
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: gone cold, and he's like, all right, I'm sorry.

777
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I don't well I don't think

778
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: his shower has gone cold.

779
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: It's why I don't necessarily agree with the showernology.

780
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think a shower is going col. I

781
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: think he's enjoying life. Yeah.

782
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Like, I was hanging out with my uncle yesterday. He's

783
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: like sixty something. We were talking about I made this.

784
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: People listen to the podcast might know that I made

785
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: this video about, uh, you know, having an existential crisis

786
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: and death. And I was talking about all these things.

787
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: My uncle saw it and we were like talking about it,

788
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: and I was like and I was talking to him

789
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you think happens after

790
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: we die? And it was like, oh, I don't know.

791
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I'll figure that out when it happens. It was like

792
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: it was like the second I asked him was the

793
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: first time he thought about it?

794
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

795
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Was Actually it was as if the second I asked

796
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: him was the fourth time in his entire fucking life

797
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: you'd ever thought about it.

798
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: You didn't even consider it, didn't even consider it.

799
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's that's insane to me.

800
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 6: I've been considering it ever since I was a little girl.

801
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: Ye.

802
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: Actually, it's spooky.

803
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: Maybe I've always just been like that. Maybe I'm just

804
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 6: two in my head. Some people they don't consider it

805
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 6: at all. I know your uncle is one of them.

806
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 6: I know incredibly lucky.

807
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: Don't you. You know what's funny is sometimes I like,

808
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: I'll meet someone like that.

809
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 6: You know you're like a care free person.

810
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you meet someone and you're like, I can you've

811
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: never how have you a problem? How can you be

812
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: a conscious being even if you're like, even if you

813
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: have the best on paper quality of life, I don't

814
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: know how you can be a conscious being that's never

815
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: experienced some some sort of like some form of like

816
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: a profound uh sadness and you And maybe I'm being projective,

817
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: but yeah, you meet people like that right where you're

818
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: like you never thought?

819
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Do I think a lot?

820
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 5: A thinker?

821
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking all the time. I'm always thinking. I

822
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: consider myself. It's weird. Sometimes I feel actually very carefree,

823
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: and then other times I feel uh, very anxious.

824
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Do you do you think a lot?

825
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: I think all the time. I'm trying to think less though.

826
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 6: I think it might be beneficial for me to think less.

827
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: How's your maybe for you too, I'm also trying to

828
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: think less. Yeah, the pros and cons Yes, you know

829
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: I was talking to Yeah, there's people I have in

830
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: my life who think who I don't. I don't think

831
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: they think a lot, uh, but they live and they

832
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: tell me you should think less, And I'm like, it's

833
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: probably true. There's an optimal amount of concientiousness to happen.

834
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 6: When you were younger, were you always thinking a lot?

835
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? I remember.

836
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: I think this is a right of and you probably

837
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: had maybe had the same thing happened. This is the

838
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: right of passage for all uh crazy existential people is everyone.

839
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Can you remember a time where you maybe like walk

840
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and you went

841
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: into your parents' room and you were like, yeah, I

842
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: remember this kid like growing up in the Uh you

843
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: wake up, you get your parents' room and you're like,

844
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: mom and dad just realized that one day I'm going

845
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: to die. And I remember my mom going, oh, but

846
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen for a very, very long time.

847
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: Did that happen to you that.

848
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's happened to me a few times.

849
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Do you talk to your parents about death?

850
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I told them what I just told you.

851
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 6: Death is calling my name.

852
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Mom.

853
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 6: Do you think I should pick up the phone and

854
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: were She's a very religious person. I come from a

855
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 6: religious family, and so we had a priest ob one time,

856
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 6: read a priest over one time. And she pulls them

857
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 6: aside and she like says this in the most like

858
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: ominous way possible, and she's like, my daughter has a

859
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 6: little problem. Can you just bless her for a second.

860
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 6: And he like he's like bowed your head down, and

861
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 6: he like does a prayer over me and he blesses me.

862
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 5: And that was that.

863
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 6: And then she's like, all right, you're good.

864
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: Did you feel better?

865
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 6: I feel better?

866
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: Did do you think the prayer worked?

867
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 6: Another part of me was thinking, like maybe I've been possessed.

868
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: Maybe what religion were you?

869
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 6: I'm Catholic?

870
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

871
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 3: Do you still identify with Catholicism?

872
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: I got a yeah.

873
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 6: I believe in God really, but I'm I'm open to

874
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 6: other you know, debates and interpretations.

875
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: Wait, so okay, So, as a.

876
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: As someone who thinks a lot about these existential topics

877
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: and about death and whatnot, how do they, uh, how

878
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: do you think about them through the lens of your religion.

879
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: I've actually never that's a good question, and I've never

880
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: thought about that. Afterlife you know how I interpret it

881
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 6: as lights out, lights off, you're done, it's over.

882
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 3: I don't.

883
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 6: I've never really considered the idea of a heaven. I

884
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 6: think we created a heaven so that we can feel

885
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 6: better when our people die.

886
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

887
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I personally, like, I don't think I'm embarking

888
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: on that. I don't think that's going to be there

889
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: for me, you know what I mean. I think we're

890
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 6: all kind of like it's over. I believe in God

891
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 6: in the sense of, like, you know, there's something cosmic,

892
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 6: there's something watching over us for the time we're alive.

893
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 3: Well, okay, you think there's something watching over us? Yeah,

894
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: what do you think that is?

895
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 6: I think it's God. I think it's a god up there,

896
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 6: like an entity, Yes.

897
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: Like a monolith, like a monolithic entity, like it's controlled

898
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: by one.

899
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you can pray to it, you can ask

900
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: him for whatever.

901
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Do you believe in, like a traditional like omnis omni omnipotence, omnipotent, omnipotent.

902
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 5: I wouldn't.

903
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not god fearing. Some people like, oh, I'm

904
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 6: a God fearing woman. I'm from this out.

905
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: No, No, you can't. I don't fearing God is stupid.

906
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 6: I'm not a god fear. I mean shot out to

907
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 6: anyone who is.

908
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: But that's just not me.

909
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 6: I just I believe that there's something watching over us,

910
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: and I believe that if you ever need something but

911
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 6: it can't be material, I'll tell you how I pray.

912
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 6: Maybe that'll be easier. I'll tell you how I pray.

913
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 6: I don't ever ask for like a material object or

914
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 6: for something to happen, Like if I want to study

915
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 6: for a test. I'm never like, oh, I want an

916
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 6: a I'm asking for Oh I want the knowledge, or

917
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 6: I want the discipline to study. If I wanted to

918
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 6: pass the job interview, I don't wish to pass the

919
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 6: job interview. I wish that the interviewer has kindness and compassion. Sure,

920
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 6: I wish that you know I've had while rested sleep,

921
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

922
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: It's the classic God, give me the whatever, the yeah,

923
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: the courage, the courage to Yeah. It's like, you don't

924
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: want the things, give me the things to take on

925
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the things. But do you do you believe that there

926
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: is an entity that is receiving those prayers and bestowing

927
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: the things upon you externally.

928
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 6: I think part of it is the entity. And I

929
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 6: think part of it is by me saying it out loud,

930
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: it gives me, like you know what I mean, like

931
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 6: a sense of like assurance that I can do this, okay.

932
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 6: Part of it's like a confidence thing. Part of me

933
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 6: is saying I've done my due diligence to pray and

934
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: whatever happens happens.

935
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: Do you believe in like a like a like a

936
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: morality based afterlife?

937
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: No, I don't believe in good or bad people either.

938
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need either.

939
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 6: I think that's a dumb thing.

940
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: I don't neither only be like I don't believe in

941
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: that because of like a from like a deterministic point

942
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: of view.

943
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 6: It's like it's so like black and white, like oh,

944
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 6: you're good, you're bad, You're a bad person, you're evil.

945
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 6: Like that's stupid, and I can call the bad person

946
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 6: many times and it's I don't know. I just don't

947
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 6: think that's a very accurate way to portray people that

948
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 6: are very complex.

949
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I think it's well because actually, you

950
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: know what sucks about being all uh, you know what

951
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: sucks about being all like spiritual and he's full and

952
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: stuff is that it's like like it's so much easier

953
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: to just be like, I guy's a fucking asshole and

954
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: just walk away.

955
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much. It's so much easier, you know, on

956
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: your mind.

957
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because every because the world is uh, you know,

958
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: too complex and people are too complex two.

959
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: To really to take in, you know, and to to

960
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: uh deal with.

961
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: So we have the labels that were like, oh, that

962
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 2: guy is an asshole or what that's whatever, because it

963
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: makes it easier than being like, ah, that person had

964
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: a bad day or a bad childhood, or their brain

965
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: is wired in a certain way, and.

966
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: It's hard because you don't want to excuse they. I

967
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: don't know how much I believe in like free will, okay,

968
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: like because like you have your fucking uh you were

969
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: born to your parents with your own brain and even

970
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: and you can make decisions, But how much of your

971
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: decisions are your own? Really if they're influenced by so

972
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: many factors outside of yourself, like who your parents were,

973
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: or what your brain chemistry is like, or where you

974
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: grew up, I would do you disagree?

975
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 6: I don't know. That's I don't I haven't given much

976
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 6: thought to it. I'd say I do believe in free

977
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 6: will and I'd say, we're only so much. There's like

978
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 6: a threshold in which we're influenced by other things at

979
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 6: some point. It's just it's just who you are, you

980
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 6: know what I mean. It's just it's just I don't

981
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 6: ever listen to my parents, unfortunately.

982
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: Do they where?

983
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 6: Did?

984
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: Where?

985
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: Did?

986
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: What? Do your parents think about? Like death? Do you

987
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: do you talk to them about it? In terms of like,

988
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: well they feel cold showery?

989
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 5: I never asked.

990
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk to them about the cold

991
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: shower because I don't want to freak them out, because

992
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 6: then they're gonna send me, you know, like another priest.

993
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

994
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: Do you still go to a church?

995
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: I haven't gone.

996
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: I haven't gone in two weeks. I will go when

997
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 6: I'm I'm moving around right now. So it's a little tough.

998
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: What do they do at church?

999
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: Sactly because I grew up go in a synagogue and synagogue,

1000
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: you know, because it church. At church, I feel like

1001
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: a guy gets up there and he speaks in English

1002
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: and he says a bunch of stuff and in synagogue

1003
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: gets all in Hebrew and I'm like, what does this mean?

1004
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: And they go shut the fuck up and keep reading

1005
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: and the way. I just remember, like we would sing

1006
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: all these songs. I have all these Hebrew songs like

1007
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: stuck in my head. I don't know what any of

1008
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: them mean. I can't tell you a single like when

1009
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: we go to synagogue and we was just singing in

1010
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Hebrew and nobody ever stopped to be like, hey, by

1011
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: the way, this is what they're talking about. Actually, I

1012
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: remember one thing, okay, uh, what is it? Maybe you know,

1013
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: maybe this is a statement about boundaries or something. Okay,

1014
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: I remember one thing from Hebrew school that I was

1015
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: told something from the Torah, a story about this guy

1016
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: who's like wander He's like lost in the desert and

1017
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: he has a canteen of a little bit of water

1018
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: and he only has enough water for him self. And

1019
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: he meets the sky who's also like thirsty and wondering

1020
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: that the desert, and uh, he's the guy's like, hey,

1021
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: can have some of your water. And according to Torah,

1022
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: it's totally cool if you just don't give him.

1023
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: The water and you take all the water. You just

1024
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: have all the water for you. They told me. They

1025
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: told me that.

1026
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, so it's okay to uh be selfish.

1027
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: I guess I think I think so, I don't know.

1028
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's I don't know if that's

1029
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: good pr for for US Jews right now. But anyway,

1030
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: what were you going to say?

1031
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 6: I don't know, And I think this is a good

1032
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 6: stopping point because you have a line.

1033
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: There's no lot. But what's your name? And a pleasure

1034
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: to meet you. My name is Lyle. I will I

1035
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: will see you around the universe.

1036
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: How are you my friend? Hey? What's your name? My

1037
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: name is Judah. Judah. Nice to meate you.

1038
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: I go by struts as an artistrut.

1039
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: How's life? What's going on?

1040
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: Man? Honestly, it's it's okay. I've been having trouble with

1041
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: my work life balance, you know what I mean? Tell

1042
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: me mare, Well, So I work as an artist. I

1043
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: sell my art here in the park, and I'm a

1044
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: college student. I'm home for summer break, and I also

1045
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: am taking some summer classes as well, all asynchronous and

1046
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: online and whatnot. And there's a lot of other things

1047
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: that I have to do to upkeep my life, like

1048
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: taking my meds or going to therapy or you know,

1049
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: going to a regular doctor's appointment, taking care of chores

1050
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: around the house and whatnot, and I've been having a

1051
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: hard time juggling that and still doing what I feel

1052
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: really proud of and doing.

1053
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: Like my art really well or to the highest level

1054
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: of it. What do you feel really proud of?

1055
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: I feel proud that excuse me. I feel proud that

1056
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I can make a piece of art that somebody connects

1057
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: to and that brings somebody joy. And I feel like

1058
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: I can do that lot over and I've proven that

1059
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: I can do that a lot, and I am so

1060
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: willing and open to continue doing that in whatever way.

1061
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: You know, I study new media, so I'm exploring all

1062
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: of these different avenues to go down and it is

1063
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: a little overwhelming at times, you know, and it gets

1064
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: in the way of like maintaining regular relationships with my

1065
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: family members or my friends or the people that I.

1066
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: Love, you know, And.

1067
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Honestly, like, yeah, I guess my question would be like,

1068
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: how do you balance your work life?

1069
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 5: Like?

1070
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: How what do you do you schedule? I know you

1071
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: have a unique situation, but I'm looking to get into

1072
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: a similar one.

1073
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: Oh, how do I balance my work life schedule?

1074
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

1075
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: You balance your work life schedule by having no life?

1076
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, let's listen. Listen, brother, listen, brother. I'm

1077
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: single with no kids, gotcha.

1078
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: You know I can be I go on.

1079
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Long walks at two o'clock in the morning. You know,

1080
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else to do.

1081
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: But that's but but if you enjoy going on long

1082
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: walks in the morning, that's fine. Like no, I'm sorry

1083
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: at three o'cl yeah, three color yeah, yeah. But that's

1084
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: my point is this, Like, if that's what it brings you,

1085
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: relief for joy or like I'm down to be single

1086
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: and unmarried. If that means that I live a happy

1087
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: life and I don't have to work a job that

1088
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: I hate or X, Y and Z, you know, marriage.

1089
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: And kids and a family and whatever, it would be great.

1090
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: But it's not like necessary for me necessarily, you know

1091
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: what I mean, what's necessary?

1092
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: So what's the what's the life part?

1093
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: So you know, relationships with Like, like I'm twenty years old,

1094
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm a college student. I still live with my parents,

1095
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: you know, and there's some tension there, especially because you know,

1096
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: I've had problems with my like my parents and my

1097
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: family in the past. I'm like it comes to a

1098
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: head sometimes when I'm twenty years old and still living

1099
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: in the in the apartment and I'm trying to do

1100
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: my artwork and make a lot of prints of all

1101
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: my different things, and I'm kind of spread out a

1102
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: little bit. And they come home and I didn't think

1103
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: they were gonna come home. They get mad at the mess,

1104
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: and I'm just I don't know. I need I need

1105
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: a certain amount of excess. Excuse me, I need a

1106
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: certain amount of success off of this stuff in order

1107
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: to be able to have my own space and be independent.

1108
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Yes, especially, And well, do you live with your parents

1109
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: in the like city five blocks that way?

1110
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

1111
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: Oh, your parents live manh Yeah. Yeah, Okay, here's the thing.

1112
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: You know what here, you know what's funny is normally

1113
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: in a situation like this, it's like.

1114
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: I feel for you trying to get out, even if

1115
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: you have, like, like if you have a battle issue

1116
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: with the parents, like your parents don't like hit you

1117
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: or anything. Right, No, okay, all right, all right, because

1118
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Look, normally, i'd be like I normally

1119
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: i'd be like, if your parents you have a bad

1120
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: relationship with them, I understand why to get out. But

1121
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: your parents live in Manhattan, dude, if your parents live

1122
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, my advice to you, is I swear on

1123
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: my life in no other in no other situation do

1124
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I ever say this. But if I were you, I

1125
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: would suck it up and live rent free in Manhattan

1126
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: for as long as you possibly can, live with your

1127
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: parents rent free in Manhattan until you are forty five

1128
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: years old.

1129
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: Isn't that the thing that makes sense to do?

1130
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 5: Right?

1131
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing, Like, Bro, if your parents lived

1132
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: in like fucking New Brunswick or whatever. I get, but like,

1133
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: get out of there, dude, live rent free in Manhattan

1134
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: as long as you can, honestly, like I'm trying to get.

1135
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: Here's my plan, you're ready. I am going to get

1136
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: rich and or famous okay, very young.

1137
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: Wor soon? Okay? All right?

1138
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna have enough money to buy an

1139
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 2: apartment of my own in this neighborhood, and I will

1140
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: continue to be a local, and I'll have like a

1141
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: nice little one bedroom.

1142
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Bro, that's way too much pressure. How much money you

1143
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: need to buy it apart in this neighborhood, and.

1144
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: I'll sell you something.

1145
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: I don't feel the pressure. I just know that it's coming.

1146
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: I genuinely all the way trust that it's gonna come.

1147
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: Maybe it won't be when I'm super young, and that's fine,

1148
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: and I'm prepared for that and I have backup lands,

1149
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 2: all right, But I genuinely like, I'm not worried about

1150
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: success coming to me, whether or not it's gonna I'm

1151
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: not excuse me, I'm not worried about whether or not

1152
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: success is gonna come to me. I'm just worried about

1153
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 2: when and how and how can I make sure that

1154
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: it's what I actually want, how I want to present

1155
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 2: myself to the world.

1156
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 3: Sure, and like why not? I really.

1157
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, And even if it isn't fame and fortune or whatever,

1158
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: it'll be a loving and fulfilling life, and like, I

1159
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: feel like I can build that off of my art.

1160
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: And you know, one hundred percent strut dot NYC. We're lit,

1161
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: I you know, I I think that's great. And by

1162
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: the way, I actually not this isn't wu woo. I

1163
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: know we were just woo woo for the last however long,

1164
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: But I don't think this is whoah, I think this

1165
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: is actually by like this, I believe I don't know

1166
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: anything about biology, but I do believe this is like

1167
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: of the mind, empirically like manifestation, right because I don't.

1168
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe in manifestation as a way of

1169
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: you put out signals into something outside of yourself, But

1170
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: you put signals into your brain, and the signals and

1171
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: the thoughts you have influence the actions you have, and

1172
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: the actions that you do influence the way that the

1173
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: external world responds to you. And sorry, I believe the

1174
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: manifestation empirically works.

1175
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 3: In that way.

1176
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, I agree with that, and I want to

1177
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: add on to it as well, sure, because I want

1178
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: to say, like, I think that manifestation works in that

1179
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: if it is something that is constantly on your mind

1180
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: and you're thinking about it and always improving those ideas,

1181
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: you're working on those ideas, then it will progress because

1182
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: you're putting the work into it, of course. And the

1183
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: reason why I really trust myself to become successful and

1184
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: not wear bads because I know that I will always

1185
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: put the work in and I live by I live

1186
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: by a lot of little mottos that I've come up

1187
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: with or accumulated, but one of them is that the

1188
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: definition of luck is the combination of opportunity and preparation.

1189
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I, okay, I I believe that I do believe

1190
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: that that success is a combination.

1191
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1192
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: Sure, it's a combination of having luck.

1193
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Well well, well, yeah, success is a combination of having

1194
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: some form of inherent talent, a nice you have to

1195
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: you have to have some form of inherent talent, some

1196
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: form of work ethic and like a lot of luck

1197
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of luck can and by the way,

1198
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: a lot of luck. Luck comes in many forms. Luck

1199
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: comes in the form of you know who your parents are.

1200
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: Luck comes in the form of.

1201
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: You know, just like, oh, I was prepared in my

1202
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: daddy's nutsac you know what I mean. I mean, I

1203
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: have the opportunity and I beat all the other sperm

1204
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: in the all the other sperm exactly.

1205
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: I Yo, everybody starts life out on a win.

1206
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: But it I will say that, like I think success

1207
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: does require a lot of luck, Like I think it

1208
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: requires all because that's.

1209
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: Why I make my own luck. Because here's the thing.

1210
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: The benefit of living intan and Lower Manhattan, and the

1211
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 2: reason why I should stay here as long as possible

1212
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: is because of the proximity to opportunity.

1213
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: Because it's all happening right here.

1214
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: And so if I'm constantly preparing and then going out

1215
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: and inevitably I know the opportunity will show up.

1216
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: All I gotta do is pounce on that opportunity. And

1217
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: I'm lit. I'm not worried about because here's the thing.

1218
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: Whether or not you make the the fifty million dollars

1219
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: that you need to buy an apartment in fucking you

1220
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: know Manhattan, whatever.

1221
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: If I got one hundred grand and a good reputation

1222
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: for selling art for that much, I could get an

1223
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: apartment within a year in Manhattan, within a one and

1224
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: a half mile radius of where we are.

1225
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: Well numbers aside, who gets a shirt, That's not the point.

1226
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: The point is. The reason I'm not worried about you

1227
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: is because.

1228
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: In the pursuit of these things, you'll probably have a

1229
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: lot of fun, and you'll probably meet a lot of people,

1230
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: and you'll probably make a lot of things that you're

1231
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: proud of. One speaking of things that I'm proud of,

1232
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: I actually have a gift that I want to give

1233
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: to you.

1234
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 3: Is that you're gonna me Is that? Okay, Oh you're

1235
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 3: gonnaar me one moment. Okay, I'm saying one moment.

1236
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll talk to the I'll talk to the audience

1237
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: wall with this is He's calling a man named Matt,

1238
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: would you make.

1239
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 3: I made a shirt. I make wearable paintings.

1240
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you make wearable painting wear like I made this

1241
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: shirt a couple of get the fuck out of here.

1242
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: I made this shirt a couple of weeks ago, and

1243
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: when I I saw you, it just it made me

1244
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: think of you.

1245
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: And honestly, you still go.

1246
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: By the therapy get go right or no, yeah, gek therapy,

1247
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: gecko lyle, whatever, whatever it might be, and not only

1248
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: fits your color, but it's it's a person who is

1249
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: in pain but not letting that pain define them and

1250
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: is scratchy, but it's finding beauty in that scratchiness. And

1251
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: I love street art so much, you know, and I

1252
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: because I grew up in this neighborhood. It's been a

1253
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: big part of how I've grown as an artist, and

1254
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: so stuff like this is really important to me, and

1255
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: especially like this is a form of street art and

1256
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 2: what you're doing right now, and like being on the

1257
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: street and making art and making these videos and interacting

1258
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: with these people, and I love it.

1259
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: You know, I study new media and this is very

1260
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: very inspiring to me. Thanks. I want to give you

1261
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: this shirt as a gift.

1262
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I'm gonna I gotta make this here.

1263
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this the I'll put so that the

1264
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: audio listeners can see it. I'll make it the U

1265
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: the thumbnail of the podcast, the audio podcast, because it's funny.

1266
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: This is this is like a this is a perfect

1267
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 3: shirt for me. This feel it's a green.

1268
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Guy with a it's it's a it's a Korean man

1269
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: in a state of existential dread.

1270
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: It is such a perfect shirt. Thank you for this.

1271
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 3: This is this is awesome.

1272
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, the shirts I'm actually I made the

1273
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 2: one that I'm wearing right now.

1274
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so what is that?

1275
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: So we just had a whole long, crazy, constant like

1276
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: talk about existential bullshit.

1277
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: This what is this? This seems very existential.

1278
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: So this is one of my favorite pieces that I've

1279
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: made recently. It's based off of a painting of the

1280
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: Rapture of Saint Paul.

1281
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: And what is the rapture of Saint Paul? What's the story?

1282
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: It's one of the saints, he got raptured, he went

1283
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: up to heaven. That's That's about the extent of its

1284
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: relevance to the piece. Honestly, Well, you made a whole

1285
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: thing about the thing you don't know what the thing

1286
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: is about. Well, okay, sorry, what's the relevant to the piece?

1287
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: I spoke too soon? The point being that in Christianity

1288
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 2: there are these conflicting beliefs that every human being is flawed,

1289
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: and also on the other hand, Jesus will take responsibility

1290
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: for all of your sins and God will see you

1291
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 2: as perfect. And so it's kind of tearing between this,

1292
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: like perfection in God's eyes and imperfection in the real world,

1293
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: and so kind of the meaning of this is that

1294
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: as Paul gets closer to Heaven, it's easier to see him,

1295
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: and as he is closer to Earth, things.

1296
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: Are more muddled.

1297
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: It's not as black and white, it's not as easy

1298
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: to tell what is what. And so that was the

1299
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: meaning of this piece a lot of them. Some of

1300
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: the pieces are more complex, some of the pieces are

1301
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: more simple and striking. This is definitely one of the

1302
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: more striking ones. But people really like it and they've

1303
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: been you know, I've been out here. Technically I'm not

1304
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: allowed to sell a peril in the park, which is

1305
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: why I don't sell a peril.

1306
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't sell t shirts. Guys.

1307
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: Guys, there's a guy walking around selling but just whine

1308
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: out of a cooler, and there's people selling. There's no

1309
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: laws in Washington. Washington Square Park is like there's no law.

1310
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: Nobody has a permit except for me.

1311
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: I have a permit. If anyone asks, oh, I'm sure.

1312
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 6: You know.

1313
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 3: There often are not often, but sometimes there are.

1314
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: Park cops quote unquote, not real cops, but park enforcers

1315
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: or rangers or whatever.

1316
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: And they do come because it's a historical landmark.

1317
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: So they come around and they tell you, oh, specifically this,

1318
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: you can't display a price, you can't do a T shirt,

1319
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: you can't put the T shirts on display.

1320
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: You can't they guys. Should They gotta be super bored.

1321
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: To do that. Yes, And they only come out once

1322
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: in a while to just let people know. And it's

1323
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: the same guys. So if they see you twice doing

1324
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: the same thing, then it's a court summons and it's

1325
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 2: And honestly, that's why I voted for Zoorn Mamdani is

1326
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 2: because he is working to help street vendors have less

1327
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: red tape to cut through and just make stuff like

1328
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: street art or street food, which is a former street

1329
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: art in my opinion, sure able to be more accessible

1330
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: and cheaper he's gonna make the process for getting a

1331
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: food cart license or food truck license a lot easier

1332
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: to do.

1333
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: I like the idea of a campaign that's like a

1334
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: dollar water bottle out of a cooler guys from Mondami.

1335
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what, the dollar water bottle guys,

1336
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 2: the ones that keep it cool, especially they hold this

1337
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 2: park on their shoulder. I like the idea of like

1338
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: all like a just like fifty of them in one room.

1339
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they they're probably a voting block.

1340
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 3: Dude.

1341
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: I bet that there is like the king of the

1342
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: one dollar water guys and he's like a political boss

1343
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: and he tells them to vote for.

1344
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't are that. You think they're all in

1345
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 3: a network? Like, how do you get into that? I

1346
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 3: bet it's RelA you know what.

1347
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: I bet it's relatively lucrative because you could buy like

1348
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: if I go, if I go, buy like a store

1349
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: brand case of water, maybe like five bucks for thirty

1350
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: of them.

1351
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: That's twenty five bucks a case. That's pretty good. Oh

1352
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: excuse me, sorry, that's all problem.

1353
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: That is that is pretty good, but also is like

1354
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: you have to take into account your time, right, Like

1355
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: if you sell let's say five bottles of water. Let's

1356
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: say you sell a bottle of water every five minutes,

1357
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: which is pretty good, right, You're making twelve dollars an

1358
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: hour minus what you spent on the bottles, so let's

1359
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: say nine dollars an hour. It's not great, and honestly,

1360
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: it's not super fun. I see the guys who do it.

1361
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: They're not having a great time. I love them, they're

1362
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: they're my co workers, honestly, because we all work in

1363
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: the park together.

1364
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 3: But I can tell it's one of the less fun

1365
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: jobs to have. How often are you out here?

1366
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: I am out here six days a week, but one

1367
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 2: one week on, one week off. So I come out

1368
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: for six days and then I retract for six days.

1369
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1370
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 5: What do you? What do you do?

1371
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 3: When you retract? I make more art pieces. I normally

1372
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 3: only do very limited editions.

1373
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 2: So I'll do five prints of a new design, and

1374
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: then once they sell out, I'll just turn it into

1375
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: a sticker.

1376
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: But it'll never exist as a print again.

1377
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: Sure, so I spent I spend the week cooking up,

1378
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen twenty new designs, printing stuff out. I've

1379
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: been because I'm still very new to this. I'm like

1380
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: in my second month of doing it. So I'm still

1381
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: like upgrading all of my stuff. I'm about to have

1382
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: my stickers laminated so that they'll be more scratch and

1383
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: dustproof and whatnot. They're currently they're waterproof, but they're not

1384
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: They're not as good as they could be. And you know,

1385
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm part of an art collective called b YOBF. Shout

1386
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: out Perry Mason, shout out oxy here.

1387
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 3: What is BYO? Well, I'm gonna guess B why Oh,

1388
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: bring your own best friend? You're super closed. It's be

1389
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: your own best threat.

1390
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: That sounds depressing, you know what, It's actually really inspirational

1391
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: and it kind of u is parallel to a form

1392
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: of existentialism that I really or nihilism that I really like,

1393
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: which is optimistic nihilism.

1394
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: Optimistic nihilism. I love it. Yeah, yeah, we're at we're

1395
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: on that train at a little bit. And so I

1396
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: can give you the backstory behind it. Actually, go ahead.

1397
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 2: So my good friend Perry Mason, who's a successful and

1398
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: up and coming musician, he invited some people that were

1399
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: old friends to a.

1400
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 3: To a show.

1401
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: And he invited some old friends to a show and

1402
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: they didn't show up and he got really upset and

1403
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 2: he went home and he wrote b YOBFB youre on

1404
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 2: best friend all over his walls and ever since then,

1405
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: that's been the brand, that's been the collective.

1406
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 3: We're working on it.

1407
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh, his friends didn't come to his show, so he

1408
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: has to be his own friends. And but do you

1409
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: know what it really inspired me when I heard that song?

1410
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

1411
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: The idea is, you have to be your biggest supporter.

1412
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: You have to be the person who believes in you

1413
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: the most. You can't wait on somebody else to believe

1414
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: in you. They got their own arms going on. And

1415
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: so you know, it kind of goes into my name Strut,

1416
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: which is all about confidence and about yeah really, what

1417
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: I say about Strutt is is like, if you don't

1418
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: walk out of your apartment or your house every single morning,

1419
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: truly believing and acting.

1420
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: Like you are the shit, like you are the best

1421
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: las well you got you, you will never be the

1422
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 3: ship you. Well, you gotta have a you.

1423
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: I think there's an optimal amount of thinking you're the

1424
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: ship and you gotta you know, I mean, no one

1425
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: likes someone who doesn't hate themselves a little bit.

1426
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 2: You have to hate yourself a little bit. Does it

1427
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: seem like I don't hate myself, You probably hate yourself

1428
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 2: a little bit. All I can tell you I can.

1429
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you hate yourself a little bit only

1430
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: because hating yourself a little bit is a natural trade.

1431
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: I believe of all super ambitious people, yes, and the

1432
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: parts of myself that I hate, the parts that are

1433
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: unable to achieve my creative goals. And like the parts,

1434
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: the good parts come up with all these great ideas,

1435
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: and the parts that are bad hold me back from

1436
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: creating those ideas. And that's why I've been working to

1437
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: work with my problems. You know, one thing that I learned,

1438
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: I learned and as a new media major, I had

1439
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: to take programming class, and I fucking hate programming.

1440
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 3: It's like computer programming. Oh AI is gonna do all

1441
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 3: that stuff.

1442
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 5: At all?

1443
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: Anyways. Point by the way, I just I don't think

1444
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: I think I will do that.

1445
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna take away Like art,

1446
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: though I agree, I don't think it's gonna take away.

1447
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: I think that if you, as an artist, are worried

1448
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: about AI replacing your art, you either have to believe

1449
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: in yourself more or make better art.

1450
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: I think it'll I think I will probably take away

1451
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 3: like a lot of commercial arts.

1452
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that's art. I think that that is

1453
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: just both like commodifiable visuals. That's not art, a lot

1454
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: of commodifiable visuals. But as far as like like like

1455
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 2: when you go when you buy tickets to see like

1456
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: as a comedian, or when you buy a piece from

1457
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: an artist, you you're you're buying more than just the

1458
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: you're buying, you know, you it's like that.

1459
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: It's like it's that person, you know, and only people

1460
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: can be people.

1461
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when when when the company is like, oh,

1462
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: I need a logo for my for you know, my

1463
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 2: fucking bank or whatever.

1464
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: That's That's that's how I feel about it. To curse.

1465
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: Some say you can curse. I don't know.

1466
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: It's not PBS work after all. How you guys doing,

1467
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: how do you feel? You know, well, there's a bunch

1468
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: of guys. Why did you get back here? There's a

1469
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: bunch of guys behind us, these guys you love anybody

1470
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: high five bro and war and.

1471
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: War piece everybody just.

1472
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 4: Like that.

1473
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: Send those guys to the fucking the battlefields, you know.

1474
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: I bet I bet those guys. I bet those guys

1475
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: could bring peace to the world. You know what in

1476
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: a heartbeat, one high five at a time, one high

1477
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: five at a time.

1478
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

1479
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: Judah Jebediah. Judah Jebediah. Jebediah was a bullfrog. He was

1480
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: a good friend of mine. Who are your favorite artists?

1481
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: Before we go, I'll give a couple of visual artists.

1482
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: I really love Richard Prince. He's very controversial.

1483
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: Why why is it controversial?

1484
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: He takes other people's artwork and he reframes it. He

1485
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: gives a new meaning, sure and calls it his own

1486
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: and is very successful with it.

1487
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 3: But some people don't like that.

1488
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: For the record, if anyone ever, if anyone wants to

1489
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: take this exact podcast and re upload it on YouTube

1490
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: and put like a really grainy filter on it and

1491
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: some low fi hip hop underneath it, if you can

1492
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: find a way to make money doing that, you go ahead.

1493
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: I don't give I'm gonna make a YouTube channel doing that.

1494
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, grany low fi hip hop therapy Gecko re

1495
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: uploads one million. If you can do that and it

1496
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: adds value to your life in any way, shape or form,

1497
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 1: then then go ahead.

1498
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: I love it.

1499
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm doing new media. So I'm studying all these

1500
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 2: different facets of art and all this.

1501
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: If you can do one, if you can do one,

1502
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: if you can make a YouTube channel where it's this

1503
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: podcast but it's got the Simpsons theme on a loop

1504
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: underneath it at twelve decibel volume.

1505
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't go ahead, whatever, you know what I'm gonna do.

1506
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use the curve function and make us look

1507
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: like pieces of glitch art moving glitch art.

1508
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 3: Go ahead, and then I'm gonna lower the octaves.

1509
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 2: And when one person is talking, when when you're talking,

1510
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna talk really and I really high pitch.

1511
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: And then when the guest is talking, they're gonna talk.

1512
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: Fuck it up. Who gives that? We're gonna have so much? Yeah,

1513
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: remix it. I love It's fine. That's a spirit of

1514
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 3: sweet like people well, people like uh.

1515
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I'm gonna DM where someone's like, hey, this

1516
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: guy is reposting all your reels.

1517
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 3: Awesome. It's fine. You know. It's by the way, that's good.

1518
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: That is if if my goal is that I want

1519
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: as many people to see the thing as possible, who

1520
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: gives a shit?

1521
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, it's not like we're getting money off

1522
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: of Instagram anyways. Yeah. Also that's the thing.

1523
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: It's like, so I you know, I don't really make

1524
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: money off of like the platforms themselves.

1525
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: As a hundred percent. You know what I really like

1526
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 3: is like YouTubers participating in edit culture. You know what

1527
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, YouTube poops.

1528
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly, And like the evolution of that, and

1529
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: like I know, there are a lot of YouTubers that

1530
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 2: will like take a second in each video or in

1531
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: every every show video and be like, Okay, we're gonna

1532
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: edit form for a second and just like flip their

1533
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: hair and have fun YadA, YadA, YadA, and they always

1534
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: watch and repost and like the the and it just

1535
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 2: creates the edits and whatnot.

1536
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: It creates a sense of community and gathering and like

1537
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: that's what art is all about.

1538
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: It's funny, like like I don't know, you take like

1539
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: a like like how many times you go on YouTube

1540
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: and you see a Family Guy clip or like a

1541
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: whole like Family Guy funny episode complation and it's uploaded

1542
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: by like Shadow the Hedgehog fifty two or whatever. And

1543
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: it's like if Fox went around and took all those down,

1544
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: that'd be bad. That would be bad for it's good

1545
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: to have it means more people are gonna see your ship,

1546
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: more people are gonna like your ship.

1547
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: You know, where do you think we go when we die? Yeah,

1548
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 3: that's never mind.

1549
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 2: I'm good for that question, right, I'm a smart Okay,

1550
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 2: al right, you don't have to be smart to answer

1551
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: that question. Yeah, but I think that you have to

1552
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: be open to looking at your emotions instead of just

1553
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: choosing the most comfortable.

1554
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 3: Do you think you can answer it in twenty seconds?

1555
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: Because I think if I have another conversation about death,

1556
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry my sleep.

1557
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: Give me countdown from twenty I'm gonna all right, here's

1558
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: what I think about what happens after we die.

1559
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 3: I think that it doesn't fucking matter.

1560
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 2: I think that you should choose to live your life

1561
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: the way that it makes sense for you to live it,

1562
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: and the way that makes other people and yourself the

1563
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 2: happiest and the most comfortable.

1564
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 3: And if there is a god, and if there is

1565
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: an afterlife, if.

1566
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: He disagrees with my morals, then hell will probably not

1567
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: be hell, and Heaven will probably not be heaven.

1568
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 3: He'll just choose the right place for me. So you

1569
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: know that's some quote where it's like any all right.

1570
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: It's like if God, if God is the kind of

1571
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: guy that you know sends you to hell fire for

1572
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, masturbating or whatever, then he's probably a dick.

1573
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to worship him anyway. That's my that's

1574
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: that's our remix of whatever.

1575
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: You know what I you know what I think as

1576
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: like an agnostic Jewish person. Oh you're Jewish? Let mother

1577
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,839
Speaker 3: fucking him? Hi him. It's a it's a Shabbat.

1578
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 4: It is.

1579
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 3: Friday night. You were actually here for the beginning of Shabbat.

1580
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: Somebody asked me the other day what Shabbat is. I

1581
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: didn't know how to tell him.

1582
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: It's like it's time of rest and reflection. And we

1583
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: Jews were very neurotic. We're always running around doing things.

1584
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: We have to take time to reflect and recombobulate and uh, decompress.

1585
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: Is anxiety a Jewish thing? Are you anxious? Judaism is

1586
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: an anxious thing. Anxiety is not a Jewish thing? Do

1587
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

1588
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty fair to say is a blanket statement. Jews

1589
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 2: are anxious overall trend, but not all anxious people are juice.

1590
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Of course, they might enjoy Judaism or benefit from Judaism,

1591
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: but they aren't necessarily jewice.

1592
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: Do you think it's like the whole? Do you think

1593
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: it's like the constant, like like we're always like escaping

1594
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: from some bullshit.

1595
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's life, you know, where

1596
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: we're escaping and we're confronting, and we're escaping and we're confronting.

1597
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: That is because doing all of one or all of

1598
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: the other is not fun, reproductive, or healthy. You know

1599
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: one thing that I learned while I was tripping on

1600
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 2: shrooms my grandma's hot tub.

1601
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 3: You live a hilarious life. Yeah, that to the maximum,

1602
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 3: to the maximum. Your grandma is a hot Does your

1603
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 3: grandma live in Manhattan?

1604
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: To Grandma, I was about to say, if your grandma

1605
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: had a hot tub in Manhattan, you just gotta you

1606
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 1: just gotta you know, No, she lives in getting that

1607
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: you gotta get in that will she.

1608
01:11:58,920 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: Lives in upstate New York.

1609
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: But I was tripping on chums with my best friend

1610
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 2: and I was in the hot tub and I felt

1611
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 2: like this warm blanket of sunlight but then the cool

1612
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 2: but also the hot water, and I was just it

1613
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 2: made me realize that like life is about balancing things

1614
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: and like if.

1615
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: Little is good.

1616
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: More must be better, but not too much, you know,

1617
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: and all of these different things, and I realized that, like, yes,

1618
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: they're the things that I enjoy, but I have to

1619
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: balance them the things that I have to do that

1620
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily enjoy in order for them to mean anything.

1621
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: You know, if everybody loves each other all the time,

1622
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 2: then love doesn't mean anything because it's just the norm.

1623
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. There is a balance. You can't

1624
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 3: just like hate or hell in order for love or

1625
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 3: heaven to exist. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, I

1626
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 3: guess that's true. I agree. I agree with you.

1627
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: And that's and it's kind of what I was just

1628
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: what we were just talking about a little bit with

1629
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: like the like labeling people and whatever. You have to

1630
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: have a little bit of you have to make because again,

1631
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: if you're like all peaceful and spiritual all the time,

1632
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: you're just gonna if you're like all peaceful and spiritual

1633
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: and conscious all the time, you're gonna be incompatible with

1634
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: the actual world that you live in, which is going

1635
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: to the grocery store sometimes and taking ships and saying

1636
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: hello to some guys sometimes, you know what I mean,

1637
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: Like you stop it stop signing like you don't live

1638
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: in the ethereal plane, so you gotta be you.

1639
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: Know personal personally, I do my best to live in

1640
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: the ethereal plane every day.

1641
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: That's too much. Yeah, I I live in the ethereal

1642
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: plane all day, but I don't like it. One of

1643
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: these days, I just want to be like I like,

1644
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: I like when I'm not in the ethereal plane.

1645
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: I what I like to do is I canpartmentalize, so

1646
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 2: I'll live in the ethereal plane some days and then

1647
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: work so that I can live in the ethereal plane

1648
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: on the other days.

1649
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: Like I think I was pissed off about something stupid,

1650
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: and I was pissed off about what was I pissed

1651
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: off from.

1652
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 3: You gotta be like a get go man. You gotta

1653
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: let it flow off your back like water. No, no, no,

1654
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: I I like being pissed off. Now, it's good. That's

1655
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: very Jewish. No it's not.

1656
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: I promise it's not Jewish. I promise it's not Jewish.

1657
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: It's here's here's let me tell you why I'm like

1658
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: being pissed off. Sometimes it's because, like like the last

1659
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: you know, all right here, let me tell you something.

1660
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: So there's a bit of a bell curve. I believe

1661
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: to consciousness, and at the beginning, at the beginning of

1662
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: a bell curve is like, uh, like every little thing

1663
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 1: pisses you, like like a very low amount of conscious

1664
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: Like you're just getting pissed off by everything.

1665
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: You're like, Oh, the fucking line is too long at

1666
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 3: this store. I always cut lines.

1667
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't know why you always cut lines that?

1668
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: Do you really just just most of the that's such

1669
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: a dick move.

1670
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 3: Why do you cut in lines? Okay, you've ever seen

1671
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 3: the like here here, here's why I cut the line.

1672
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: I can't defend you on that. Most of the time,

1673
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,520
Speaker 3: it's a mob anyways.

1674
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 2: Like if it's like a really organized line and it's

1675
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 2: big and it's moving fast, fine, right, And if there's

1676
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: like there's like things going on. But like, for example,

1677
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: like when everybody's just moving towards an escalator and it's

1678
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: people are forming a line, Fuck that line, I'm gonna

1679
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: just go on the escalator.

1680
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, if if I'll tell you this, if if

1681
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where there's a big crowd and

1682
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: we're all yes getting something like we're getting into an escalator,

1683
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: and I see that the most optimal way for me

1684
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: to exist in this formation, and that's the goal that

1685
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: we're attempting it as a crowd, to make it a

1686
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: clean formation. If that goal requires me to be in

1687
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: front of this guy, I would do that occasionally.

1688
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: Sure.

1689
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: But if we're like if I'm like like, okay, we're

1690
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: like in line at a fucking taco stand or whatever,

1691
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cut the fucking taco stand.

1692
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 3: Oh No, that's what I'm talking about. But like, for example,

1693
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: have you heard of the chat and cut? Yeah, it's

1694
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: a Larry David thing. I you chatting, don't know. No,

1695
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 3: I think that's an amateur move. Amateur amateur move. I

1696
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 3: think that. No, I'm serious. I'm dead serious. The chatt

1697
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: and cut is an amateur What do you do? What

1698
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,560
Speaker 3: do you do to cut lines? Here's what you do.

1699
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: You stand there as if you're not online on your phone,

1700
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 2: and then when the line moves forward, you step forward.

1701
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 3: No, that's such a dick move. Highly disagree with that.

1702
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: And here's here's here. You want to hear some examples

1703
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 2: of the way of music, because I don't use it everywhere,

1704
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 2: but I'll give you some examples and you tell me

1705
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: if you think it was addiculation. Sure, the British Museum. Okay,

1706
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: we were online to get into the bare you it

1707
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: was in Britain, in London, Yes, in London.

1708
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 3: Yes. You can't do that. You can't.

1709
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: It's even worse. You can't go to a foreign country

1710
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: and start being.

1711
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 5: That.

1712
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 3: You know you're in Italy. Look, you grew up in

1713
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: New York.

1714
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So like if you cut in line at

1715
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: some hot dog stand here, that would be I think

1716
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 1: that would be a dick move. But to go to

1717
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: a foreign country and start being a dick there makes

1718
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: it so much worse.

1719
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 6: Bro.

1720
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 2: The way I feel is like, fuck the British and

1721
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: fuck specifically the British Museum.

1722
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 3: Bro.

1723
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: Come on, but it's not hold on. But it's about

1724
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 2: the people, right, You're not okay, you're not. You're not

1725
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: fucking over the British when you cut in line. Of course,

1726
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: you're fucking over the other people, Okay, But it's you're

1727
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 2: talking about disrespected in other countries. It's not about the

1728
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 2: other country. First of all, it's not about it's not

1729
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: about the other country.

1730
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: There's other people waiting in the line who want to

1731
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: see the British Museum, and you're not better than them,

1732
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 1: so you gotta wait in the fucking line.

1733
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: Everybody has time tickets, and most of the people in

1734
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: that line I was listening to. I was standing at

1735
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: the back of the line listening to them, and everyone

1736
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: was like talking about how they were trying to get

1737
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: tickets on the way in. And I told the first

1738
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: couple of people and then they left to the other

1739
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: bigger line or left to not come. But then it

1740
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: got to a certain point where it was moving so

1741
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: slowly because every single person was having an argument with

1742
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 2: them about oh I needed Like I didn't know that

1743
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 2: I had to have a time ticket.

1744
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: You didn't mark this properly, X, Y and Z. Wait,

1745
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: what's another example? I was another example when you cut

1746
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: in line.

1747
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you another example. I was at a

1748
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: concert and they had a merch table and the concert.

1749
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 2: Then the line for the merch table was crazy long.

1750
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 2: I didn't want any merch. I just wanted a poncha

1751
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: because it was raining and it was an outdoor concert.

1752
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 2: So I stood at the front of the line and

1753
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: asked people like, yo, can I give you five dollars

1754
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: you buy.

1755
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: Me a poncha. Oh my god, it worked. It worked, Juda.

1756
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean you have to give them five dollars. It worked, Juda. Judah,

1757
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 3: I know it so literally, I will.

1758
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: I've been like in like I'll go to Chipotle and

1759
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: I'll wait in line for the whatever the thing, like

1760
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: I to get my burrito, and then afterwards, I'm like, oh, crap,

1761
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: I forgot napkins. I gotta ask them for napkins. And

1762
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: some people they cut. They're like, hey, they cut them.

1763
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: They go to the front line like, hey, I just

1764
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: wanted to ask for napkins. Wait in line, yeah, to

1765
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: ask for the napkins.

1766
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 3: Can I be real with you, bro, and I think

1767
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 3: that my opinion is equally as valid as yours. You're

1768
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: a sucker for that. No, it's a I disagree. I disagree.

1769
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 3: I like, okay, you know you know what you're like,

1770
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 3: You're like, I know what kind of okay you have?

1771
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: Do you fly? Do you fly?

1772
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 2: Fly?

1773
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 4: On?

1774
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 5: You fly?

1775
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes?

1776
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1777
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: You ever get the person who's like you, the person's like, hey,

1778
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm late for my flight. Can I cut

1779
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: in front of you at t s A? Yeah, I

1780
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,919
Speaker 1: cannot imagine having.

1781
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: The goal to do that. I understand it.

1782
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: I said I would, I would, I would miss the

1783
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: flight and waste a bunch of money having to get

1784
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 1: a new one before I did that, not even and

1785
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: and that's that's not even actually I'll say this, And

1786
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: that's not like me being like a fucking holier than now. Guy,

1787
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: that's just me that I mean, that's me social anxiety,

1788
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: not even social anxiety.

1789
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: But it's like just to have the nerve. We have

1790
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: the nerve because motherfucker, we all want to get on them.

1791
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: We all want to get to our flights. I think

1792
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 2: that we are both taking hyperbolic stances that are unrealistic

1793
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: for regular people's lives.

1794
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: I know, I disagree. I think you're I think you're wrong. No,

1795
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: I think I don't think. I don't think.

1796
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: I also think you're necessary. Okay, let me tell you something.

1797
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't think I think you're one hundred percent wrong.

1798
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm necessarily right. I don't think I'm

1799
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: necessarily wrong either. But I think you're one hundred percent right.

1800
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: And I can I give you another version of the

1801
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: chapot example. You were, yeah, and I have to go

1802
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: I have to go home.

1803
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 2: Uh.

1804
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 3: I cut the line in Chipotle And here's how I

1805
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 3: do it. I go on door dash and I order

1806
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: it pick up order fifteen minutes before I get that,

1807
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 3: cutting the line. Yeah, but it is cutting the line.

1808
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 3: You Okay, go ahead, I'll let you finish.

1809
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 2: It's the same exact thing, because they're gonna get the

1810
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 2: order and make it. They're gonna get the order before

1811
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: someone who got into the shop before you even thought

1812
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: about getting the burrito has gotten to the front yet.

1813
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's fair. But that's fair because you are

1814
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: taking advantage of a system that the person who is

1815
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: waiting in line could have also taken advantage of.

1816
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 3: You're got, You're got.

1817
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: You're operating within the established system, operating within the when

1818
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: you were operating within an established form of order.

1819
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: Right when you cut the line. If we take social

1820
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: mediums out of it, we think about you like what's

1821
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 3: right and what's wrong? Sure?

1822
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: Right, the same kind of like financial system that allowed

1823
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: me to make the door dash right, uh huh?

1824
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 3: Pick up. It's just a social system that says that

1825
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 3: I can't cut in line.

1826
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 5: Bro.

1827
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I I really I love this pit and

1828
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: I can't keep it up anymore. I don't cut in line.

1829
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: Wait a bit, yeah, I'm sorry.

1830
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: This whole thing was a bit. Yeah, I love you

1831
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 3: should wait wait this was a bit. Yeah, I didn't.

1832
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: I just came. It's a terrible bit. How would you

1833
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 3: do this? Sorry?

1834
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: We laughed, we had fun, we love we did laugh.

1835
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 2: But everyone on the podcast, everyone is good. Everyone's gonna

1836
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 2: hate you now, okay, that's I'm okay with that. You know,

1837
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, like you're not doing something right if you're

1838
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: not getting haters, and like, honestly, they'll probably they'll probably

1839
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 2: get game community by like showing each other the video.

1840
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 2: Look at this dumb ass he cuts in the live.

1841
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: He's an asshole. People will be the overall will be better.

1842
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 2: And honestly, like when if people clip that, I'll be like,

1843
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 2: oh if you look at the NS And I was joking.

1844
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 3: And can I can I clip this please? Because I

1845
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: was thinking, you.

1846
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 1: Know, I stick a while we having this antagonic can

1847
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: I actually I'm gonna tell you so, I'm gonna this

1848
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: is I might tell you me a hundred seriously you

1849
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: right now.

1850
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 3: I was thinking, I was like, this would be a

1851
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 3: good clip, but I know that if I clip it,

1852
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 3: it's just.

1853
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: Gonna I've had I've had a time where I've done

1854
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: this podcast where I was in Portugal and I had

1855
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: this uh lady on and I made a clip of

1856
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: her and I posted the clip and the clip like

1857
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: did well, it performed well, but all of the comments

1858
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: were just like fuck this lady, she sucks, and I'm like,

1859
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't like that's like, that's not what I'm like

1860
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: going for. I don't like feel comfortable with that, Like

1861
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: that's not the kind of like what that's not like

1862
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: what I'm That's really not what I'm trying to be about.

1863
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: So I deleted the clip and I was thinking just now,

1864
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: I was like, this would be a good clip, but

1865
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: if I post it, everyone in the comments is gonna

1866
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: be like the fuck this guy, this guy sucks and

1867
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm not about That's not what I'm about.

1868
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm not, I don't I'm not sure. I don't want

1869
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 3: to like yours get views that way. Yeah, but if

1870
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: you're telling me, yes, I am.

1871
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: But if you're saying to me you would you actively

1872
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: I would want to subject yourself to that, then I will.

1873
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: Then I'm then I'll consider it.

1874
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 2: I would love if you would consider it, and you

1875
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: could even include a little bit at the end where

1876
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: I said, now, I was just joking. If you felt

1877
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: like that was maybe okay, you know what, you know

1878
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: what I was, you know what, Maybe I could yeah,

1879
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: or you clip you could put in the description like X,

1880
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: Y and Z by the way he was joking or whatever.

1881
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: No one's gonna see that, no, of course, but then

1882
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 2: you can say, oh, why didn't you read the caption

1883
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: before you said something? You know it's you, you know what,

1884
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1885
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: I'll clip it and then you hop in the comments

1886
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: in your merch thing. I love it and then you'll see.

1887
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that'll work for you. I

1888
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: think you'll get like hate bomb. I think people will

1889
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: get upset with you.

1890
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,759
Speaker 2: You know what. And that's more views for me, baby,

1891
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: I love it, and you know what, Like, if you

1892
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 2: guys want to go on my Instagram and give me

1893
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: some hate, I love it. Honestly. My only request is

1894
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: just be specific about what you dislike. They're no, they

1895
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 2: don't do that.

1896
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: They don't do it. No, they don't. They don't get specific.

1897
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm just like if you guys, If you guys are

1898
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 3: not specific, then I will be specific. But that's okay.

1899
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: I like and honestly, like I love everybody, and I

1900
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 2: do it for the love of the game. I do

1901
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 2: everything for the love of the game. Judah, Judah, Judah.

1902
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: Nice to meet you, Judas. Want to say to the

1903
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: people the computer before we go.

1904
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 3: Yo, follow strut dot NYC.

1905
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: If you want to see some great, amazing art, come

1906
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: to the Washington Square Park Fountain. I'm here all the time,

1907
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: every other week, six days a week. I rocket, I

1908
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: roll it, I squish it, I squash it. Piece of Love,

1909
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 2: rock and roll. Nice to meet you, Judith.

1910
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: Very nice to lead you. Take care brother.

1911
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: What's your name. I'm Belle, Belle, Nice to meet you.

1912
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: How's life going, bell It's it's going.

1913
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, very cool. So that we don't have that could

1914
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: be it.

1915
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 5: I mean, how's your life going.

1916
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 3: My life's going all right?

1917
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 5: How's the whole gecko thing?

1918
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 3: So it's just fun?

1919
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 5: That's good.

1920
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 3: It could be it. That could be the whole com week.

1921
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: That could be it.

1922
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 5: I don't know how this works. I don't know how

1923
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 5: this works.

1924
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 3: How does this work?

1925
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: Well? What are you doing in the park? How many

1926
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 1: people tell you that you look like Raven from Teen

1927
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Titans a Day?

1928
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 5: Never heard that before?

1929
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: Shut up?

1930
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: You never heard that, But you've never heard that before

1931
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: you You're I'm talking to her friend off screen?

1932
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: Do you or do you agree with that? They said

1933
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 3: they can see that? Do you? Can you see it?

1934
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 5: I don't know today I got Wednesday, Adam.

1935
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: So how do you feel about these comparisons? Do you

1936
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 3: do they?

1937
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 5: I don't care. I mean I take it as a comp.

1938
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 3: Okay, good god, what do you What are you doing

1939
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 3: out in the park today?

1940
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 5: Just hanging out with my friend? I mean, I didn't

1941
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 5: even plan to say this late, but then I don't know.

1942
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 5: I saw you. I thought you before you had like

1943
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 5: the Gecko suit on. I thought you were like gonna

1944
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 5: cosplay Shrek or something.

1945
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I get. A lot a lot of

1946
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: people come up to me when I'm just wearing the

1947
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: like I just have the face paint on, and people

1948
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: are like, are you Shrek? Or someone will be like, oh,

1949
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: are you the Hulk? Or like I get like this

1950
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: I get when I'm wearing the costume or I'm wearing

1951
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: just the paint. I get a rotation of the same

1952
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: five things said to me constantly, and I don't have

1953
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,560
Speaker 1: a clever thing to say back. So here's what I

1954
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: normally say I usually or something like I'll be walking

1955
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: and something like why is your face screen?

1956
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: And should be like, I'm a crazy green guy, and

1957
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: I'll just keep walking.

1958
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 3: Yea.

1959
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Speaker 1: If someone's like, oh, I've seen your videos and I'm like, okay,

1960
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate it. But if it's just someone

1961
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: who's like, why is your face screen? Sometimes sometimes I'll

1962
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I was doing interviews in the park.

1963
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: But normally I'll just be like I'm crazy. That, which

1964
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: works too. It's a little true.

1965
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 3: That could be it. That could be the whole conversation.

1966
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: No, you seem like you want You've been standing over

1967
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: there the entire time I've been doing this.

1968
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how this works.

1969
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 3: I was just like, you asked me another, ask me

1970
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: another question.

1971
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 5: How'd you get into this?

1972
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 3: Wait? What do you study? What do you do with

1973
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 3: your life?

1974
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: Do you study something? Do you work at something? Do

1975
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: you yeah, fashion or study fashion? Oh you're an F

1976
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: I T yeah, I almost went to F. I t

1977
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: oh what I have to Okay, I was about it.

1978
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 1: I almost went that by a different film. Oh yeah,

1979
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: we talked about this a little bit. I almost went

1980
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: that by different film. I was talking to my parents

1981
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 1: about it. My dad my parents were both like, you're

1982
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,839
Speaker 1: gonna be the only straight man at the entire.

1983
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 5: That's not true.

1984
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: Is that true?

1985
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you would definitely be a minority. But that's

1986
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 5: definitely not true. I will say, if you're a straight

1987
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 5: man there, all all the girls come to you because

1988
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:29,799
Speaker 5: there's so many girls.

1989
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 3: Is that true? Is that true? Do all the girls come?

1990
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 3: Is that how?

1991
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 4: That?

1992
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 3: Is that really how that works?

1993
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 5: Unfortunately? Yes?

1994
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 3: Or is it more like.

1995
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Or is it like teacher hot you know where, Like

1996
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 1: it's like they're around, so they're hotter.

1997
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, the teachers?

1998
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 3: Well, like you know what I mean, Like, uh, how

1999
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 3: do I say this?

2000
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Like okay, whatever, Like yeah, it's because because uh, there's

2001
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: so few men around. You mean, that's that's who you're

2002
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: forced to find attractive. Is just who's there?

2003
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, basically, But I mean that's kind of what happens.

2004
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 5: Like I feel like I feel like half the girls

2005
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 5: sleep with like the same like five guys at least

2006
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 5: from what I've heard.

2007
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 3: So, dude, what do the guys study?

2008
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 5: They study fashion, all different types of things. I don't know, Okay,

2009
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 5: I don't I don't talk to the guys that much

2010
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 5: except for him, and he's gay.

2011
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 3: So what do you think is the future of fashion?

2012
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 5: AI will probably take over and none of us will

2013
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: have jobs anymore.

2014
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 3: So really you think?

2015
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: So?

2016
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2017
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 5: I mean it's already happening.

2018
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 3: So what and how do you believe it's started happening?

2019
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 5: I mean every time I open my phone, I'm like,

2020
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is a cool like fashion runway,

2021
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 5: and then I'm like, wait, this is Ai?

2022
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: But there was like it's AI is in like like

2023
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 3: the runway is AI? Or the closer AI?

2024
01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 5: Like the whole video was AI.

2025
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: Did?

2026
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 1: Did a human at least prompt it? Because here let

2027
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: me tell well, I guess sorry, let me say here's

2028
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 1: my here's kind of my thoughts about AI is like

2029
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: I've seen that like the genuinely good things I've seen.

2030
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: With AI, because like, all right, you can go into

2031
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: chat GBT, right and you can be like make a

2032
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 2: dress that looks cool and one hundred percent of the time.

2033
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna make something that's like kind of lame.

2034
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 1: But like the fun the things I've seen with AI

2035
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: that are like genuinely funny, I'm like, Okay, I like

2036
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: I can tell that that like the tools used to

2037
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 1: make that, to like to generate this, uh, were AI.

2038
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: But I can tell that a human being who is

2039
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: funny must be orchestrating this. But a great example is

2040
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I think it's called like fat Fellas on Instagram Fat

2041
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: Fella Season or something. It's just like a it's these

2042
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 1: AI videos of these like ob guys like doing heists

2043
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: and like riding on yachts and stuff, and it's super

2044
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: funny and it's all AI generated, but it's you can

2045
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 1: tell that a funny person use.

2046
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,640
Speaker 3: AI to make it.

2047
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: So I guess we could live in a world where like, okay, yeah,

2048
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: people are using AI, but you can tell that there

2049
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 1: is human intent behind the tools.

2050
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I get what you're saying. I feel

2051
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 5: like half of like the memes on my Instagram or

2052
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 5: AI now, but.

2053
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 3: It's like but they're funny, but they have they're funny

2054
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 3: enough where you can.

2055
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah made it some some the ethos of it was

2056
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: created in a human's mind.

2057
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I don't know. Do you agree with that

2058
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 3: or I do think I'm being bullshitty right now.

2059
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: You can fight back by the way you said you

2060
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: didn't know how this works, but you can you can

2061
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: fight back if you disagree with anything I'm saying.

2062
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I I don't disagree. I mean I sometimes

2063
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 5: I'm just like scrolling and I think the AI stuff

2064
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 5: is funny and like sometimes like not even funny, Like

2065
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 5: my mom always sends me like cute videos to animals

2066
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 5: that are like obviously AI.

2067
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 3: That stuff I don't like.

2068
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: I don't like like I don't like like the AI

2069
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 2: animals like AI hot girls.

2070
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that that makes me cringe.

2071
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 3: That makes it I don't like that at all.

2072
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 5: I like, Yeah, there's like certain things about that that

2073
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 5: like ick me out because there's like this new thing

2074
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 5: where like people are like AI like like I guess,

2075
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 5: like deefaking, like people with like disabilities and like down

2076
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 5: syndrome for like only fans, Like I don't know, it's

2077
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 5: like this weird thing.

2078
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: There's a lot of yeah, like oh well, there's a

2079
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: lot of like only fans like uh like like where

2080
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a lady's only fans, she's like

2081
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: chatting with people, but it's not yeah yeah, you know,

2082
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: which makes sense because I think if you're chatting with

2083
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: a lady on only fans, it's ninety nine percent of

2084
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: the time it's not her anyway, so naturally it would

2085
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: lead to the point where it's like, well, none of

2086
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 1: it is and it's just some.

2087
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 3: Guy creating a thing.

2088
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean, I like it seems new now,

2089
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 5: but like it was, like wasn't it like ten years

2090
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 5: ago that like that whole little Mickayla thing who like

2091
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 5: went viral, Like there was this girl, Lil Michayla that

2092
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 5: went viral for being like the first like AI influencer,

2093
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 5: like before AI blew up. This was like ten years ago.

2094
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah I know, I know, yeah, I know

2095
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 3: it's not a new thing, but yeah, I don't know.

2096
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 5: I I do.

2097
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Wonder how, I do wonder how successful those things will

2098
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: be because I do believe that, like you know, when

2099
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: you follow, like like I was thinking about it to like,

2100
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: like I listened to podcasts and I watch YouTube videos. Yeah,

2101
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: there are some YouTube videos where I'm like, like, if

2102
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm watching a like I watch a lot of like

2103
01:33:55,720 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: video game trivia shit, and it's like if I'm watching

2104
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 1: a video game trivia hour two hours of GameCube facts video,

2105
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: I probably won't notice if it's made by AI. Yeah right,

2106
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: but if I'm if I'm listening to a two hour

2107
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 1: long video of like a guy telling his life story

2108
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be able to tell if it's AI.

2109
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 3: You know.

2110
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: So it's like these things, the things that are more

2111
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: pure and authentic and personal, I think will persist, and

2112
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: the things that are impersonal, Like I was just talking

2113
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: to that guy Judah about like commercial art will probably be.

2114
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 3: Done by AI.

2115
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think the art and the things

2116
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: that are like impersonal and inauthentic and surface level will

2117
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: probably be replaced. But the things that are really deep

2118
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,760
Speaker 1: and you know, writing that's very personal and and art,

2119
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: and you know, even visual art and fashion that's it's

2120
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 1: personal and has stories to it, I think we'll continue

2121
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 1: to persist because people buy into those things, because they

2122
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: buy into the you know, the human beings behind them.

2123
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, when I'm listening to a two hour long

2124
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: video about YouTube trivia, I'm just trying about about fucking

2125
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: GameCube trivia. I'm just trying to zone out. I'm not

2126
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: really connecting to anything human in that sense.

2127
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I hope, I definitely hope like what

2128
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 5: you're saying stays true, But like I feel like I've

2129
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 5: already seen some stuff where like I've seen like these

2130
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 5: videos on Instagram where they look real and then they're like, oh,

2131
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 5: by the way, this is AI, Like it's like one

2132
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 5: of those like street interviews. I guess kind of like

2133
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:38,640
Speaker 5: this and like sure, it like seems like personal and

2134
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 5: then they're like, wait, this is AI and they're like

2135
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 5: look at look at the fingers or whatever, and I'm like,

2136
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 5: I didn't notice that at all, and it's kind of scary.

2137
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 5: So like, I hope what you're saying stays true.

2138
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, but that but the person who's using AI

2139
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: to make.

2140
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: The fake video of the person telling the fake story,

2141
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: that's a short term game because they're never are gonna

2142
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: build any I don't think you're gonna build anything long

2143
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 1: term off of that, you know, like because that's just

2144
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: just like if you're just usn't have to trick people,

2145
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be a lung. Like I don't think

2146
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: like like people like people are listening to this podcast.

2147
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: We're two human beings having a conversation. If people found

2148
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 1: out that like this was AI, I don't think people

2149
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 1: would listen to this.

2150
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 5: But what if this was actually AI and they never

2151
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 5: knew Yo.

2152
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 1: That would be quite a long time I guess it's true.

2153
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I guess it's true that people like this could this

2154
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: whole thing could be AI.

2155
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 5: Cause like it's like, you don't technically have to be

2156
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 5: like this is an AI podcast. So there could be

2157
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 5: like podcasts and videos out there that are all AI

2158
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 5: and they're just so good.

2159
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: But if you're doing but I think if you're doing

2160
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 1: something in the long term, people will find out if

2161
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: it's a I.

2162
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 5: Some people are really committed. I mean, if people can

2163
01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 5: be like serial killers and like never get like found

2164
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 5: out until they're like they die or like ever.

2165
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: Then I get I don't know, I don't know. That

2166
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: would be just such a syop. You'd have to do

2167
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: we sure, I guess right. Like so I feel that

2168
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: with like music, like a lot of people are making

2169
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: using aadomic music. But people don't buy into music in

2170
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: terms of like the tracks themselves, right. People buy into

2171
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 1: the artists. They buy into the personality behind the music.

2172
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 1: They want to see the tour, they wanna, you know,

2173
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 1: collect connect with the story. They like the brand or

2174
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: the aesthetic that the artist.

2175
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 3: Is getting into.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, you could probably fake someone out

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years, right to be like an

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Speaker 1: AI rapper or whatever the fuck.

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Speaker 3: But like, I don't, I don't think you can.

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Speaker 1: I think that stuff will will probably exist, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna wipe out the people who are

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Speaker 1: authentically attempting to make artists human beings.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there are like AI artists, but they're

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Speaker 5: not like people know their AI, right.

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Speaker 3: People know their AI.

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Speaker 1: And I assume that the AI artists that are very

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Speaker 1: successful are people who have some level of intention behind

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Speaker 1: their art and are just using the AI as the

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Speaker 1: tools and are not just being like, generate a cool

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Speaker 1: picture for me, you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't. I don't know. You never know

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Speaker 5: with the future.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, we gotta know what's your

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Speaker 3: name again?

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Speaker 5: Bell?

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Speaker 3: You know, we gotta do Bell what we gotta live

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Speaker 3: in the present. Yeah, I mean we can well Bell

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Speaker 3: that Ryan's That's Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is it.

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Speaker 3: This is the end of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is there anything else you want to say to

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Speaker 2: the people the computer before we go?

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Speaker 5: I know, have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening to the Therapy Gecko podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Uh my name is Lyle, I'm a gecko.

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Speaker 3: This was fun.

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Speaker 2: You were here the whole time. Yeah, who do we

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Speaker 2: talk to? What was the name of the first lady?

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Speaker 3: Anna? Anna? No, the first guy was Kai was a Kai? No,

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Speaker 3: it was Jay. First guy was Jay. Then it was Anna,

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Speaker 3: and it was Judah, and then it was Bell.

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Speaker 1: First time in my entire life I've remembered the names

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Speaker 1: of everyone who's talked on.

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Speaker 3: The on the show.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that was a good That was a good gang,

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Speaker 1: that was a good We had some good conversations. What

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Speaker 1: do you what do you I mean, what do you

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Speaker 1: think you were standing there? Did you enjoy it as

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Speaker 1: a bystander?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a lot of this stuff I heard.

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Speaker 5: I was like, this is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good enough, good enough? All right, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Gek Bless. I'll see you around the universe. Oh yeah

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Speaker 1: on Friday. What this is coming out Sunday? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this week I'm gonna put out my Tijuana video.

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Speaker 3: So go go look out for that. I'm a get go.

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Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be fine, Everything's gonna be fine, Belle. This

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Speaker 1: is where it's a long outru I should just end it.

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Speaker 5: Right, alright, I see your podcast it as long as you.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, it's it is. It's gonna be over

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Speaker 3: in three two one now