Speaker 1: This is Take twenty with Maddie and Kenzie Ziegler and
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio Podcast. Hey guys, why don't we always
Speaker 1: feel so awkward when we start these I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just high because how do you start in an episode? Well,
Speaker 1: hello there, Hey guys, welcome back. That situation, I guess,
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's because I treated like a YouTube video,
Speaker 1: maybe like hey guys, welcome back, right, but everyone listening
Speaker 1: actually welcome back. Um, thanks for joining once again. This
Speaker 1: is Oh my gosh, our dogs are kissing. We have
Speaker 1: we have our dogs here. Of course we do. The
Speaker 1: special guests always imagine we're like they're the guest today Today,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you a few questions because I'm
Speaker 1: sure everyone already knows. Um, Maddie came out with a
Speaker 1: movie called The Fallout and it's on HBO Max and
Speaker 1: it was actually number one watched on HBO Max. Huh. Yes,
Speaker 1: apparently it was like streaming at number one on HBO
Speaker 1: Max and it was like one of the most like
Speaker 1: number one searched things on the app, so it's pretty insane.
Speaker 1: It did release a few months ago at south By
Speaker 1: Southwest and it won the Grand Jury Prize and like
Speaker 1: did really well there. So to have that release first
Speaker 1: be really kind of received pretty well. I was super
Speaker 1: excited that HBO Max wanted to pick it up, and
Speaker 1: now it's just been getting a really good response, you know.
Speaker 1: And how was How was the whole process in filming?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we haven't talked much about it.
Speaker 1: I know, we really haven't. Um, I was still living
Speaker 1: with you when I was filming it. Remember were you.
Speaker 1: We were still at the old house when I was
Speaker 1: filming it. Oh my gosh, it was that long ago.
Speaker 1: It was literally one of the first productions to start
Speaker 1: back from since like Lockdown, No way, that's crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we shot it. Well, how how was it? Like
Speaker 1: was it? I mean where did where did you film it? Again?
Speaker 1: We filmed like literally in the valley and like an
Speaker 1: Encino and stuff. Really it was like I it took
Speaker 1: me like six minutes to get to work like every day. Wow.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I mean it was such an incredible experience.
Speaker 1: Obviously the subject matter if anyone who doesn't know it,
Speaker 1: it takes place, you know, Um, it's it's these high
Speaker 1: school students who share a unique bond and uh, they
Speaker 1: kind of go through an experience that happens at the school.
Speaker 1: There's a tragedy that happens, a school shooting, and um,
Speaker 1: it's kind of about the aftermath and dealing with trauma
Speaker 1: and healing and kind of navigating love and self discovery
Speaker 1: and all of these things. So it was definitely a
Speaker 1: heavy topic and and a lot to take on. But
Speaker 1: ultimately I had an incredible experience and something that I'll
Speaker 1: never forget, just because Megan Park the director and writer,
Speaker 1: she's just absolutely amazing. And Jenna Ortega is just the
Speaker 1: coolest person ever and I think so highly of her
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy I got to a project with her,
Speaker 1: and she's just so incredible in this movie, and it's
Speaker 1: just cool. Also, sorry I'm like rambling, but to have
Speaker 1: like a female lead movie, like to have all basically
Speaker 1: all females being at the forefront of this, like all
Speaker 1: the hair and makeup department, styling, camera operator, director leads
Speaker 1: are all women. And it's just really cool to have
Speaker 1: that because it's rare to find that sometimes. Um, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Um, So I don't remember when you got
Speaker 1: the part. Um, I remember bits and pieces, but how like,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling and how did you react to
Speaker 1: getting the part. Did you get a phone call or yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember, um because it was definitely like I read
Speaker 1: the script. I was so excited. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this I really resonate with this character. That would be
Speaker 1: just so cool. And then right before I auditioned, um
Speaker 1: may In, the director called me to just kind of
Speaker 1: like brief me and give me some like inspo and
Speaker 1: like references of like what the movie is going to
Speaker 1: be like in the character and everything. And so that
Speaker 1: was already cool because it made me feel more comfortable,
Speaker 1: like having that little like combo before we started combo.
Speaker 1: I've never said convo conversation, having that conversation beforehand. And
Speaker 1: then I went into the audition in a few weeks later.
Speaker 1: Um Rachel is our manager. She called me and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the part, And I was freaking out because
Speaker 1: it was the easiest yes ever that I've ever said
Speaker 1: yes to in a project, one of them, and I
Speaker 1: just just because I really just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I connected a lot to the story and impacted me,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's going to impact so many
Speaker 1: people because it's a topic that needs to be talked
Speaker 1: about more because it is heavy but it is the
Speaker 1: reality of our world, and it's something that hasn't stopped
Speaker 1: and it's something that continues to happen and we need
Speaker 1: to bring awareness to it. Of course. UM, I love
Speaker 1: that you're like interviewing me right now. I know, I
Speaker 1: feel like this is like different for me. I like it,
Speaker 1: Kensie the interviewer. Um, so obviously you and Jenna were
Speaker 1: the leads in this movie. Um, did you guys connect
Speaker 1: right away as soon as you guys were on set? Like,
Speaker 1: how how is your friendship and how is it now? Yeah? Um, well,
Speaker 1: we were both extremely We kind of explained this to
Speaker 1: each other once we first hang out, but we were
Speaker 1: both really nervous to meet each other just because I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's kind of scary, like just hoping that
Speaker 1: you're going to get along get you're gonna get along
Speaker 1: with like your co star. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: a scary thing. And I thought so highly of her
Speaker 1: and I really respected her as an actor, and I
Speaker 1: really loved the previous things. I literally finished watching You
Speaker 1: season two on Netflix and then like met got cast
Speaker 1: and then got the role like a few weeks later.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, oh my gosh, like I
Speaker 1: just watched her a project and she's so amazing. But um,
Speaker 1: we both really connected and we were actually very similar
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, pretty like introverted and just
Speaker 1: like I don't know, we kind of keep to ourselves.
Speaker 1: We have the same music taste. Like, it was really
Speaker 1: cool that we connect on so many things, and so
Speaker 1: it made the process really amazing when we got to
Speaker 1: hang out, um and like work together every day and
Speaker 1: our birthdays or three days apart. Oh my god. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. What would what would be
Speaker 1: your dream movie to be in? That's out right now
Speaker 1: because obviously I haven't even seen this movie yet, but
Speaker 1: I just know i'd want to be a part of
Speaker 1: it is Liquorice Pizza and I need to go see
Speaker 1: that movie desperately. Okay, I've been, I've been seeing that,
Speaker 1: but I thought we should go watch it together because
Speaker 1: I literally need to go with someone. What is it about?
Speaker 1: You just need to watch the trailer? Okay, Bradley Cooper's
Speaker 1: in it that you know the band. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's Time or Hame the Hame sisters, Like it's
Speaker 1: like three sisters, but one of the sisters is the
Speaker 1: lead in the movie. Oh my gosh, like she just accident.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. That's awesome. Is there another one? Would you? Okay,
Speaker 1: I've actually you always wanted to know I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to know this though. Would you ever want to be
Speaker 1: in like a superhero movie? I would love to play
Speaker 1: like Catwoman just playing Catwoman no way, And Robert Pattinson
Speaker 1: is playing that no way, that's going to be the
Speaker 1: best thing. She's so hot, so she's gonna be the
Speaker 1: best cat Woman ever. Um, what about you? What would
Speaker 1: you want to be in? You're like the full out
Speaker 1: I don't want to play me up kidding. Um, I
Speaker 1: feel like that's that's a hard thing to answer. I
Speaker 1: feel like TV show, TV show, okay, Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like I I mean, I love Outer Banks. I feel
Speaker 1: like Outer Banks is such a you would be really
Speaker 1: good in that show. Yeah, it's a great show. And
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just like really fun environment and
Speaker 1: like everything to do cool stuff on set too, right, right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just it just looks so much fun and they
Speaker 1: improv a lot of it, So I feel like it
Speaker 1: would be a really cool experience. And also like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like a TV show would just
Speaker 1: be so fun. But I don't know. I mean, i'd
Speaker 1: be down to be in some Marvel You love the
Speaker 1: New Spider Man movie. I liked it a lot, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't Like I didn't cry like you did. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not into I'm not really into Marvel
Speaker 1: movies at all. Like I haven't seen all of them,
Speaker 1: Like my friends have gone from the start to fin
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I would definitely like to do that when
Speaker 1: I have like enough time to just sit down and
Speaker 1: just bank all of them, just binge all them. But
Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched the last two Spider Man movies,
Speaker 1: and Danya and Tom Holland are so cute. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I love it. That's why I love it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I cried a lot just because I don't know,
Speaker 1: I get so connected to characters when I watched a movie.
Speaker 1: It's just a problem. That's why I feel like for me,
Speaker 1: if I was in the fall Out, I feel like
Speaker 1: it would affect me a lot. So did it Do
Speaker 1: you think it affected you in a good way or
Speaker 1: a bad way? Or yeah? I mean, like look obviously,
Speaker 1: like I said, there's a lot of weight to the
Speaker 1: movie and a lot of depth, but like the topic was,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to like walk away from that
Speaker 1: and just you know, like not think about it just
Speaker 1: because it's so intense. And I personally and obviously you too,
Speaker 1: Like we're both homeschool We were both homeschooled growing up,
Speaker 1: and we never had a high school experience, but I
Speaker 1: could just never like just imagine the fear every high
Speaker 1: that every high school student has every day walking into school.
Speaker 1: Like it's such a scary thing. It really is, and
Speaker 1: it's something that like I think about all the time,
Speaker 1: and I really just my heart is with anyone who
Speaker 1: has suffered a tragedy in any way or a loss
Speaker 1: in any way like this, And I don't know, it's just, um,
Speaker 1: it's pretty insane. But I guess too. Also I'm so
Speaker 1: off topic of what you asked. Your question was, what
Speaker 1: was your question? Did it affect you in any well?
Speaker 1: I learned a lot, Like I also, because you know
Speaker 1: how my character is like looks like she has it
Speaker 1: all together and then like deep down she's like super
Speaker 1: lonely and introverted and feels like she can't really talk
Speaker 1: to a lot of people and like I can relate
Speaker 1: to that in a little way. And I feel like
Speaker 1: I learned that it's okay to like not be alone
Speaker 1: or not feel like you're a burden. Like it's okay
Speaker 1: to lean on someone and talk to someone and be
Speaker 1: open about that stuff. Like it's hard to do, especially
Speaker 1: as a teenager, but like it's possible. And I really
Speaker 1: learned a lot from my character in that sense. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think like anyone, any one of us that's in
Speaker 1: this generation are going to go through something, whether it
Speaker 1: be on a really high level or a little level.
Speaker 1: But it's like everyone's feelings are valid and everyone is
Speaker 1: allowed to heal in their own time, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's it's okay to take your time with situations and
Speaker 1: to go through phases in your life. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's really important. Also, it's really interesting because in
Speaker 1: this movie specifically, you see each character kind of cope
Speaker 1: with their trauma in different ways. Like if you watch
Speaker 1: the movie, the character Nick, he chose activism to like
Speaker 1: move on, like he he very much like made a
Speaker 1: stand and tried to make a difference and try and
Speaker 1: prevent this from happening. And it's really important because there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who in real life that
Speaker 1: really choose this route and it helps them get through
Speaker 1: it and they make a difference, and it's really impactful
Speaker 1: to a lot of people. And then there's also people
Speaker 1: like there's also people like my character, uh and in
Speaker 1: Jenna's character who like, you know, either you can go
Speaker 1: to you can lean on someone, or you just don't
Speaker 1: try and like drown it out with other things, you know,
Speaker 1: by partying or whatever. And it's like everyone copes with
Speaker 1: things differently, and everyone's allowed to feel what they need
Speaker 1: to feel. Um, and things will get better one day.
Speaker 1: And I think it's like it's hard to think about
Speaker 1: that in a bigger picture, but things usually do end
Speaker 1: up getting better for a lot of people. So hang
Speaker 1: in there. I would say, that's really sweet. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: did you what did you do to prepare for this role? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I always had to do a lot of research, but like,
Speaker 1: ultimately these characters and I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people could probably say this, but it really didn't feel
Speaker 1: like crazy amounts of acting, you know, because like these
Speaker 1: two girls are just teenagers who like have you know,
Speaker 1: like fun hangouts, and it's just like a lot of
Speaker 1: the scenes that they ended up going with We're improv,
Speaker 1: Like they chose a lot of us just like kind
Speaker 1: of having fun and doing improv stuff, which was really
Speaker 1: cool because also some of the scenes between us, you
Speaker 1: know how it feels kind of awkward, but it's like,
Speaker 1: that's just actually the reality. A lot of my schoolers
Speaker 1: are like awkward, like teenagers, We are awkward, and it
Speaker 1: is awkward meeting new people and just like going over
Speaker 1: to their house at first sometimes. So I feel like
Speaker 1: that was super realistic. Have you ever had like a
Speaker 1: moment where you're just like hey, hey, and then you're
Speaker 1: like cool, want to come in, and it's just like
Speaker 1: so awkward. Yeah, of course, and obviously there's a nice
Speaker 1: breaker usually, but the beginning is always usually hard. I
Speaker 1: don't know, You're you're way better at making friends than
Speaker 1: I am, but well, no, I I feel like it's
Speaker 1: awkward for me because you know, I have a conversation
Speaker 1: with someone and then after I'm like, oh, shoot, like
Speaker 1: that was really awkward. Like I feel like I was
Speaker 1: really awkward and you think about like overthink it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's what I loved about the movie so
Speaker 1: much as you guys can you can really tell that
Speaker 1: you and Jenna have like a really good connection and
Speaker 1: you just like looked natural. You know. Obviously it was
Speaker 1: awkward at times, but I think that was the point.
Speaker 1: I am just also awkward. We've come to the realization
Speaker 1: that I am a little awkward, but that's why you're
Speaker 1: you shine. Oh my god, remember that movie Let It Shine?
Speaker 1: I was just talking about it. That's actually listen. I
Speaker 1: would I love Let It Shine. Also back to like
Speaker 1: wanting to be in movies or a TV show. I
Speaker 1: would want to be in the Queen's Gambit. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: did you watch that show? You need to listen. I'm
Speaker 1: what's your excuse? Now? I can't watch a show unless
Speaker 1: the first episode draws me in, Like this episode does
Speaker 1: draw you in if you're really focusing. Because I know
Speaker 1: what you mean. Everyone's like, uh, do I really want
Speaker 1: to watch a show about chess? And then you realize
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's not even about chess,
Speaker 1: it's about her. I mean, obviously it's about chess, but
Speaker 1: she has an addiction and an addiction problem and like
Speaker 1: deals with family and deals with she was adopted. Like
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. I like, I mean, I would be
Speaker 1: interested to watch it, but like same with Gray's Anatomy,
Speaker 1: like you were obsessed with it. But I had to
Speaker 1: stop after season thirteen, episode one because episode one specifically
Speaker 1: because someone dies. Um that show was too hard. You
Speaker 1: get to emotionally attached and then your character, your favorite
Speaker 1: character dies, and then you're like, what do I do now?
Speaker 1: Or like Gossip Girl, I couldn't get into it. How
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl is so good? I couldn't get it. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of shows I liked Listen. I liked Vampire Diaries.
Speaker 1: I liked says the girl She's like, okay, like when
Speaker 1: she was watching it, I don't know how old are you?
Speaker 1: Like thirteen? No, I was ten eleven. We lived in
Speaker 1: the Buckle House when I was eleven, so Kenzie would
Speaker 1: literally be like, Maddie, come here, like there's vampires biting
Speaker 1: this other person's neck and it's really scary and I
Speaker 1: need you to come, like lay with me. While I
Speaker 1: watched I'm like, why don't you just turn it off?
Speaker 1: You're like, because it's too good and I need to
Speaker 1: finish it, and I'm like what I get? I used
Speaker 1: to get really scared. I remember when I watched Lights
Speaker 1: Out you're a tough girl. Remember when I watched Lights
Speaker 1: Out on an airplane and then I got home and
Speaker 1: I slept with a flashlight on and you turned it
Speaker 1: off and I was so mad at you. Do you
Speaker 1: remember that? I was crying? I don't remember that. Remember
Speaker 1: when we took you to the Conjuring too, and you
Speaker 1: literally were watching the previews and Kenzie just gets up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where are you going? She was like, oh,
Speaker 1: mom is outside. She's picking me up. I'm leaving, Like
Speaker 1: the movie hasn't even started. I She's like, I'll see
Speaker 1: you later. I still can't watch. I still haven't watched
Speaker 1: the second one. I've watched the first one and the
Speaker 1: third one. The second one is so good, that's that's
Speaker 1: my favorite one. The third one is people made it
Speaker 1: out to be like, oh, this is about to be
Speaker 1: the scariest one. This is the craziest one, and that
Speaker 1: one was like my least favorite. M we should be
Speaker 1: movie critics. Are you even focused in our conversation? How
Speaker 1: are you just taking photos of That's actually not even
Speaker 1: fair because I was just interviewing you. Oh well, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the interview, Kenzie. This was very fun and I
Speaker 1: appreciate you supporting me on the fallout, and I hope
Speaker 1: everyone please, I hope you enjoyed it, and please go
Speaker 1: watch it on HBO Max. It's amazing. I am so
Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm so good of everything you've achieved
Speaker 1: and everything you are going to do. Thank you, and
Speaker 1: you were amazing and you're always amazing and everything you guys,
Speaker 1: go watch it or you're fake. Okay, goodbye. Thanks so
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