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Speaker 1: gonna lead to my first question. So I don't watch TV, right,

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Speaker 1: So I started watching Little Women of Atlanta and I

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Speaker 1: So people really need to understand that just because we're

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Speaker 1: the sense that it would be nice to have that

429
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: person and so that I could be what I didn't

430
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: have necessarily. So I think so it let's say, if

431
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Speaker 1: I have a daughter, Mom, you know I'm having body

432
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: trouble or mom, why does distress fit me right? Or

433
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: something I can't different the experience that I didn't have.

434
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Although my mother, um, though she'd be advertised, she was

435
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: so good. I think I'm sure that I was able

436
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: to fit into my clothes because her mother she um

437
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: is it seems or not seem stress, uh for an occupation,

438
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: but she knows how to still really well. So she

439
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: would be able to have my clothes for me. But

440
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: I would love to have a daughter so that I

441
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: can kind of share that with her, and even if

442
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: I had a son, just to share that bond of

443
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: being little people together so that I can be what

444
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: they or what I How was that transition with your parents,

445
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: especially since the fact that they had you know, your

446
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: sister that's ever tight and they have you, which I'm

447
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: pretty sure they did an amazing job. But I'm just curious,

448
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, like, how did they feel. Well, I was

449
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: the first, so I am the first kid they ever had,

450
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: so they didn't necessarily have a template to how to

451
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: raise a kid before me. So I think that was

452
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of a good thing in the sense that their

453
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: first shot raising a child was the child that was different.

454
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: And when I was born, they did not know I

455
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: was a little person on two Las Scorn. So when

456
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: there's a quick story with that. When I was born,

457
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I was deception as well, and um, the doctors, no

458
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: one knew until I came out and the doctor said

459
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And my parents thought

460
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I had a disease or something, hence why the doctor

461
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: said I'm sorry. And through a series of events they

462
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: found out like I was a little person and all

463
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: the things that entailed in that, and they prayed and

464
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: basically they had this comfort from the Lord saying, you

465
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: know what, we can handle it, like you know, this

466
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: is our baby girl. We're gonna love her no matter what.

467
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: And they just raised me as they would any other

468
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: child and I lived my life as I would any

469
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: other child. And here I am today. I'm um in university.

470
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm away from home and living on resident and

471
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: I'm actually in my dorm right now. And I because

472
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: of how they raised me, I'm able to live by

473
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: myself somewhat I have a roommate, but be able to

474
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: live by myself and live my life without help. Every

475
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: single song, that's amazing. I'm really proud of you. They

476
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: just put a smell face her. Um. So one thing

477
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I found that I was like really disgusted with, and

478
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: maybe you can just share some insight on this is

479
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: this thing called Dwarf Tausson. Yeah that so um. I

480
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: think I kind of know a little bit of that.

481
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: So um, this is a very complex issue for me personally.

482
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: We don't know not a tole you. So for me,

483
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't believe in things that exploit little people at all.

484
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: So Doworf Tauson not just wrong. Um. I think I

485
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: figurt what it's called. I think it's like midget wrestling.

486
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that either. Although some little people,

487
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: of course, they choose to do that for their occupations.

488
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: So if you want to do that, all all good

489
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: for you, you live your life with what you want.

490
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: But for me personally, of course, don't don't talk. I mean, amen,

491
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: And I think it's just it's it's in regards to

492
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: my line of it is, if someone does not want

493
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: to be involved in it, do not force them to

494
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: be involved, do not coerce them evolved, do not pressure

495
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: them to be involved. Don't put them in a position

496
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: where they have to be involved. Again with midget wrestling,

497
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: they choose that lifestyle, and good for them. But for

498
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: me personally, I don't want my height or I don't

499
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: want my my lifestyle or my dwarf is m to

500
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: be a selling point for something of that realm. And

501
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: this goes all the way back to uh, like the

502
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: surface days like little people. Yeah, so I was. I

503
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: always say my people or me, I'm like like three

504
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: times the oppressed. I'm a black female little person, but

505
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: um but I beat the odds. But I do agree,

506
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: like as I could say this because I'm black. As

507
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: with slavery, nobody should be sold, whether that be like women, male,

508
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: a little person, average type person. No one deserves to

509
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: be treated as property because everyone deserves freedom and little

510
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: people being little people, they shouldn't have been sold because

511
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I assume they were sold for energy value, oh by

512
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: a little person and have them be a jester, and

513
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: that's simply not right. And reading that is it angers me.

514
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: It makes me feel very blessed that I'm born into

515
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: in this time era, that I'm able to go to

516
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: school and not be tormented and not just be picked

517
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: up and tossed and things like that. And because I'm

518
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: pretty sure that you're a dog, because I know there's

519
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of little people out

520
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: there to use their heights to get certain jobs, and

521
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 1: even though their jobs are lucrative, it's like it's kind

522
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: of demeaning in a sense. Amy I know in regards

523
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: to that, a lot of people, there's I think for me,

524
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: there's different ways on how dwarfism is highlighted. You can

525
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: use your dwarfism um to go into jobs that particularly

526
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: want you to be a little person, so all we

527
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: want you to do wrestling, we want you to do this.

528
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: But there's also you can use it as a benefit.

529
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: So for example, I use it to to talk about

530
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: to educate people too kind of make me sound stand

531
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: out as unique in realm of like where there's so

532
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: many people in the world. If I can kind of

533
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: say here I am, this is what, this is who

534
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I am, and that's what my life is like. If

535
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: you don't know, then let me let you know. That's

536
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: how I use my don't it's tired of doing it

537
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: sometimes not a little bit, but I think it is

538
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: to a certain point. But I think because there's there's

539
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: two sides of every person, or there's probably multiple, but

540
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: I think for me there's a side of, um, this

541
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: is me and this is who I am, and I'm

542
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: unique in that way. And there's also the relaxed side.

543
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: So when I'm with my friends, where I don't realize

544
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little person. When I'm with my family, and

545
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't consider it as often so because most of

546
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: the time, honestly, I don't remember how short I am

547
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: until I look in the mirror, until I stand beside

548
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 1: somebody and I go, wow, I reach you at your

549
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: hip or I reach you at your I don't know,

550
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: stomach or something like that. So I think it's it's

551
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: a two sided for me, a two sided life. And

552
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: I think you made a good point because you are

553
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: a black woman and you also a little person, so

554
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: I can just only imagine things that you go through

555
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, just being a black alone in Canada.

556
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: M hm um, but so go ahead. No, I was

557
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna say this so far based on my life. Um,

558
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I think I'm living pretty good. So far. I haven't

559
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: had anything too drastic happen to me. And if there

560
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: is an issue amongst me and somebody else, I will

561
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: talk to them about it if it needs to occur,

562
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: like if there's a child laughing at me, I will say, hey,

563
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: what's the problem. And if not, then I will probably

564
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: forget about it because if they don't, if they are

565
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: willing to get educated, then they're not with my time. Well, last,

566
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: not least, if if there's one thing you would like

567
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: to leave with our listeners about little people, what would it?

568
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: What would that be? I think that it would be

569
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: to never underestimate a little person. We can do anything

570
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: our type people can do. It might take us a

571
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: little bit longer, it might take us a humor steps,

572
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: but it can be done. Just because we are shorter

573
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean we can't do things. So next time, and also,

574
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: don't stare it. Don't one point, don't take pictures because

575
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: we are just like everybody else. So by doing that,

576
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: you make us seem like, you make us seem off

577
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: just size in society, which is what we shouldn't do.

578
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: The world should love everybody. And don't say that um word,

579
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: which is midget. That's equivalent to saying so, don't say it.

580
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: That's very harmful. Yes, that definitely is a word that

581
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: should not be said. And if you do know a

582
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: little person, instead of laughing or goggin, just simply walk

583
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: up to them and say, Hi, hello, how are you?

584
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: Because we are like everybody else, and most of the

585
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: people will will educate you if you give them the chance.

586
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: And so instead of staring, get educated, and don't tap

587
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: their head. Because I saw this one little person. Don't

588
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: you clean the funk off on this one lady? I

589
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: was like, girl, why would you tap this girl head?

590
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Don't don't just don't touch nobody unless you know them. Yeah. Well,

591
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I think this is a very educational episode. I am

592
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: so excited, like I was like manifesting, like I want

593
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: to get the right little person to be on this

594
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: episode to share the story. And I think you did

595
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: a great job. So and also you're in college, so

596
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: stay in school. Lead these niggas along in my third

597
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: years junior. Next year is my last. There I am

598
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: in my UMI. He's called Communication Media and cute. My

599
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: hope is to one day um bring more little people

600
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: to the film So for like Peter Dinklage and yes

601
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: him taking on roles that wouldn't necessarily be played by

602
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: a little person, just making it see more of taking

603
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: on average height roles. I want to do that in

604
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: more films. So that's my goal as I go through

605
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: this industry. And child he was killing in that role.

606
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta go off, nigga. If you

607
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: want to connect with my guests, please email me. Even

608
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: though all of my guests are not amous, I feel

609
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: like this is a great educational episode, so please email

610
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: on me and I will give you her social media information.

611
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: And that's it until next time. Guys Later bye h