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Speaker 2: Today. They had one hundred degrees in Nashville. Today.

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Speaker 1: We are high at top state College Pennsylvania, jam Packed

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday, August nineteenth, The Overlord twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: Me and my little friend here yet to be named Buddy.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening on podcasts, there's just a wild animal

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Speaker 1: I mean a literal former wild animal that has been

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Speaker 1: I've got several very popular takes around college football this

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Phoenix, Arizona, All Benny, Georgia, Port

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Speaker 2: We got two more bullets in the chamber. We haven't

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Speaker 1: So at Josh pat CFB all the socials again, that's

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Speaker 1: where this stuff breaks, That's where you need to be following.

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Speaker 1: I really love this. I love first off, of the weather,

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Speaker 1: want to toss out there. Just bite the pen in

437
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Speaker 1: the grenade and toss the grenade. And that grenade is ticking,

438
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Speaker 1: and it's ticking in Morse code, and the Morse code

439
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Speaker 1: is saying, Iowa, with a little bit of offensive.

440
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Speaker 2: Juice, don't get crazy.

441
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Speaker 1: We're not calling for you know, sustained drives consistently, just

442
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Speaker 1: a little bit more offensive juice. What are they capable

443
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Speaker 1: of if they get their usual defensive production? Now you

444
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Speaker 1: see one that's a focal point. What about Penn State?

445
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: So we're here at Penn State. Watch them practice today.

446
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of known. We watched Drew Aller.

447
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: He's exactly what you would think. He looks like tailback

448
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: room diddo. Offensive line looks incredible. All three levels of

449
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 1: their defense look good. It's about the wide receivers. It's

450
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: about the wide receivers. And sure enough, we set up here.

451
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Speaker 1: We're right here on James Franklin's balcony. It overlooks the

452
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Speaker 1: practice field. Just an immaculate facility here and what I'm

453
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Speaker 1: watching for is explosiveness separation. But you know what I

454
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Speaker 1: want to see more than anything from these transfer receivers

455
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: or any receiver. They got some young guys that are

456
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Speaker 1: homegrown here or self recruited here. I just want to

457
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Speaker 1: see guys go up and get contested balls. And I'll

458
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Speaker 1: tell you that happened a couple of times today. So

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Speaker 1: that excited me. Like I looked first fifteen minutes of individuals,

460
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Speaker 1: and I looked back at our crew and said, that

461
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Speaker 1: didn't happen a whole lot last year. They didn't even

462
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Speaker 1: have a wide receiver with a reception in the Notre

463
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Speaker 1: Dame game.

464
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Speaker 2: What if I had that in the Notre Dame game.

465
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Speaker 1: What if I got guys and think about this now,

466
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Speaker 1: what if I got guys.

467
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Speaker 2: That don't go off? Maybe none of these guys.

468
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Speaker 1: Will ever have a double digit reception game. It's really

469
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Speaker 1: not Penn State's identity anyway. But what if they make

470
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Speaker 1: you respect him enough where you're not just focused on

471
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Speaker 1: one guy last year was Tyler Warren. You're focused on

472
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Speaker 1: several guys that are a legit threat to have the

473
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Speaker 1: ball thrown to him any down. Along with a new

474
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Speaker 1: running backs coach here in a dominant offensive line, what

475
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: does that do for their run game?

476
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Speaker 2: Wide?

477
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Speaker 1: Receivers heavily impact the high end potential of this ground

478
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Speaker 1: game this year. So not to mention the passing game,

479
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: which is obvious, but it's just so obvious what this

480
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Speaker 1: is going to come down to for Penn State. It's

481
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Speaker 1: going to come down to a couple of key moments,

482
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Speaker 1: a couple of key spots where you need a drive,

483
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Speaker 1: a couple of key third and seven pluses where Drew

484
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Speaker 1: Aller's just got a trusted guy to go up and

485
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Speaker 1: fight for one. They're not always going to be wide open.

486
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Speaker 1: When I watch them practice, it becomes pretty apparent they're confident.

487
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Speaker 2: They've got guys who can do that.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this also, speaking of Tyler Warren,

489
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Speaker 1: he heads out of here. This is still a really

490
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Speaker 1: good tight end room. Still a really good tight end room.

491
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Speaker 1: Khalil Denkins is out there, Luke Reynolds is out there,

492
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Speaker 1: Like those guys are what titands are supposed to look

493
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Speaker 1: like in the Big ten.

494
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Speaker 2: Especially, I have a lot of confidence.

495
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Speaker 1: I ask a lot of folks around here today like

496
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Speaker 1: how do you feel about that room? And they just

497
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: look at you like we're okay there. I think we're

498
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Speaker 1: still really good there.

499
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Speaker 2: CJ. Carr starting quarterback for Notre Dame. Check.

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Speaker 1: That's what we expected, although the battle did last a

501
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Speaker 1: lot longer than we expected, Julian saying starting quarterback named

502
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State.

503
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Speaker 2: Check took a little bit longer than we may have thought.

504
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Speaker 1: But it just seems like, why is quarterback battles however

505
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: long they goes, however long they go, like which ones

506
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: panned out in a way other than the way you

507
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Speaker 1: would have guessed it was going to go in spring?

508
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Speaker 1: Because I think we're all bat in the thousand right now.

509
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it just played out that way.

510
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Speaker 2: Who knows.

511
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Speaker 1: Quentin Joyner as sucks man, that tailback from Texas Tech

512
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: looks like he's done for the year. Andrew Balboa Michigan

513
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Speaker 1: offensive tackle, probably done for the year. I think that's

514
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Speaker 1: what I just saw. So you never get through camp unscathed.

515
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: We're gonna have those headlines from somewhere, but fall camp

516
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: bent tell man my favorite segment that we do in August. Oh,

517
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Speaker 1: by the way, before I get to Academy Sports and Outdoors,

518
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Speaker 1: I found something on Twitter.

519
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: Today from June. I want to pull it up here.

520
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how I missed it.

521
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Speaker 1: In June, producer Jesse brought it to my attention, Bradley,

522
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Speaker 1: if you're down there in Nashville, throw up the picture

523
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Speaker 1: of the cake so you know that we don't believe

524
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 1: in fall weddings around here. We think it's the most

525
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: selfish thing one could do to their friends, not to

526
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: themselves have your wedding. That's fine, But when you start

527
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: inviting people and then shame them socially if they don't come.

528
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: That's just garbage. Activities. Spring weddings are great. I know.

529
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Speaker 1: I just had one myself, and we weren't the only ones.

530
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Speaker 1: So if you're looking on your screen right now, that's Jake,

531
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Speaker 1: we only know him as Jake. That's miss Jake pending

532
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: actual name reveal. Not only did she let him have

533
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Speaker 1: a spring wedding, and again that is paate state material

534
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Speaker 1: of the highest order, and we salute her. We're not

535
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: wearing our cap the Nitney Lion here is it tips

536
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: its cap.

537
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: To miss Jake. Look at that cake.

538
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: That is a customized paid state cake. We didn't license it.

539
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: We don't care. We're not pressing charges. We don't want

540
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Speaker 1: any royalties from the wedding. I'm not sure you had

541
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: a wedding for profit anyway. Write that down, though, Gelby,

542
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea. Maybe we should get into

543
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: the cake business. But look, not even low key high

544
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: key congratulations. I'm almost one hundred percent sure they're still married.

545
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: It's only been a few months, and I actually think

546
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: that they'll last for fifty years plus because spring weddings,

547
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: it's just a scientific fact or more likely to go

548
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: the distance. Don't Wikipedia, you don't need to, you don't

549
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 1: need to research it. Just trust someone who has a

550
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: college football show to tell you that sort of stuff.

551
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: And you should never check me on that.

552
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors another place that when you walk in,

553
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: don't have doubts you're gonna find what.

554
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: You need there. Happiness is free.

555
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: But they've got that there, bats and ball gloves and

556
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: wagons and canopy tents and whatnot.

557
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: They've got that there as well.

558
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: And you can't see this, but we're so we're just

559
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: over you know, like beaver stadiums in the background. Here,

560
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: we're looking out across an expanse of what will be

561
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 1: parking spots on any game day around here. There's no

562
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: reason that Academy tents can't dot the landscape they do.

563
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: You've been to You've been some of you have been

564
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: to tailgates and you didn't even know what Academy was.

565
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: You just know it says Academy on all those little

566
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Speaker 1: wagons and chairs and canopies.

567
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Speaker 2: Well, Academy Sports and Outdoors is one of our rider dies.

568
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: They've been with us for a long time. Academy dot com.

569
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Speaker 1: If you can't get their person, check it out. You've

570
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: still got time before the season starts. Here is a

571
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: very very interesting and entertaining I think tweet I fired

572
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Speaker 1: off a few weeks ago. Bradley, here's a good cut

573
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: in for you. I fired this off a few weeks ago.

574
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Speaker 1: I said, what are some of the most popular college

575
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Speaker 1: football takes you're seeing that you just think are gonna will?

576
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: This happens every spring and summer collectively, the college football

577
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: public convinces itself of something and then that thing doesn't happen. Like,

578
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: for example, if you were to build up a player

579
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Speaker 1: and then that player doesn't pan out according to your expectations,

580
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: you trash the player. You don't just say, oh, we

581
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: all whiffed on our predictions. Well, we don't participate in

582
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: that sort of activity around here. We own it when

583
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: we're wrong. Side note, none of our predictions have ever

584
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: been wrong, in which coaches, kids or officials didn't screw

585
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: it up. But I digress. What are some of these takes? Okay,

586
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: so you guys sent me several of them. One of

587
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Speaker 1: them is it's a popular take that it could be

588
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: another down year for the SEC. What was down is

589
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: winning a championship. The only measure of success here is

590
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: a non championship year a down year for the SEC. Now,

591
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Speaker 1: I will say that if you judge it just by

592
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Speaker 1: whether you have the top teams in the country, it

593
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: was a down year for the SEC last year. This year,

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Speaker 1: my question becomes, all right, what if just humor me here,

595
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: what if Ohio State ends up being the best team

596
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: in the country, and let's say Oregon's the second best team,

597
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: or Penn State. Since we're in state college, let's say

598
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Speaker 1: those are the best two teams in the country.

599
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: They're one two.

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Speaker 1: They play in the regular season, they play in Indianapolis,

601
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: they play again in the title game. Big ten had

602
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: a great year, obviously, But what if I could rub

603
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: a magic eight ball and guarantee you the SEC has

604
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Speaker 1: number three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine to ten,

605
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Speaker 1: So they have seven of the ten best teams in

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Speaker 1: the country, but none of them are the first or

607
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: second best, and none of them even go on to

608
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Speaker 1: play for a national title.

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Speaker 2: Is that a down year? I don't think it is.

610
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Speaker 1: What I'm asking is, is that how we define this,

611
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Speaker 1: because if we define it that way, there's no we. Actually,

612
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: you and I are looking at the sport through a

613
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: different lens, but.

614
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it.

615
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Of course, there could just be carnage and a giant

616
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Speaker 1: train wreck week after week in the season because maybe

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Speaker 1: there's not an elite team.

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Speaker 2: In the SEC. That's how I think that will play out.

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Speaker 1: Another one that was sent to me a popular college

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Speaker 1: football take that you think may with Illinois is a

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Speaker 1: college football playoff contender. I easily see where you're going

622
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Speaker 1: with this. I think they're a fringe contender as they

623
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Speaker 1: enter the season. I think what may bite Illinois if

624
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you go back and look at the history of the

625
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: football program, there just aren't many times where things are

626
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: expected of them, and things are expected of them this year,

627
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and you never know, You've got a whole lot of

628
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: returning starters, and in video game land that means you

629
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Speaker 1: automatically increase your production level.

630
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Speaker 2: In real world, those.

631
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Speaker 1: Are humans, and if humans who are at a program

632
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: that's not used to winning are told expect to win,

633
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: sometimes they can do something to you mentally. I have

634
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Speaker 1: no way of knowing what the mental makeup of that

635
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: program is, but if it does fall flat, I think

636
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: that would probably be win and then it manifests itself.

637
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Or maybe they're in a bunch of close games and

638
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: they're just on the wrong side of the one possession

639
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: game or one possession outcome metric. Like I think of

640
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: them as having a fairly high ceiling, especially by Illinois standards,

641
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: but I guess that's how it would happen if it

642
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Speaker 1: were to happen. Also, do they need to win eleven

643
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: games or is ten and two good enough for them

644
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: to get in if the two losses are to the

645
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: highest quality opponents on their schedule. A third one they

646
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: got thrown my way, I've seen this one a fair amount.

647
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: I believe in this one, and that is that Oklahoma

648
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: has a bounce back season. Now you're tagging me with

649
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: this one because I believe they're going to bounce back

650
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: in a huge way. I think there'll be a playoff contender.

651
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Speaker 1: I think they may have the Heisman Trophy winner and

652
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Speaker 1: the quarterback and Jometerier. It's not hard to see how

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Speaker 1: that would go wrong, though, How does that whiff? Well,

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Speaker 1: it whiffs if their offensive line doesn't have its acting gear. Now,

655
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Speaker 1: I still got questions about it, even as I've endorsed them,

656
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Speaker 1: still got questions about it, because if that's not in gear,

657
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're sitting there in week six and seven

658
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Speaker 1: saying man Ben Arbuckle can't even run his system because

659
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Speaker 1: this quarterback doesn't have time.

660
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Speaker 2: He's running for his life.

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Speaker 1: Which he can, by the way, I know because I

662
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Speaker 1: watched him do it at Washington State. But if that happens,

663
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Speaker 1: it's wobbly and their schedules too tough, and they can't

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Speaker 1: They can't do that. So they've got to have, first

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Speaker 1: and foremost, that offensive line really gel over these last

666
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Speaker 1: two weeks of camp. If it doesn't, though, they don't

667
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Speaker 1: play an easy schedule, so if it doesn't, it goes

668
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Speaker 1: sideways quick.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't take long for you to see.

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Speaker 1: That that's pretty easy, even though I disagree with it,

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Speaker 1: Like I think they will have a bounce back year.

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Speaker 2: I see how they wouldn't. The next one is the

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Speaker 2: same way.

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Speaker 1: One of the popular takes is Clemson is a college

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Speaker 1: football playoff title contender.

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Speaker 2: I think they are.

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Speaker 1: I think they are partly because I think they've built

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Speaker 1: I think they addressed some of the neck up issues defensively,

680
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Speaker 1: like there was an attitude they didn't play with last

681
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Speaker 1: Tom Allen. No question at quarterback, no question at head coach,

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Speaker 1: no question at offensive coordinator. I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: would bite them is injury, because I don't trust their

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Speaker 1: depth to be championship caliber. Like Texas has got different

686
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Speaker 1: depth than Clemson does. Alabama's got different depth than Clemson does.

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Speaker 1: These are just teams I've watched in person. But if

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Speaker 1: is it just they made the playoff like Oregon last year?

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Speaker 1: I thought was a legitimate title contender. They locked down

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Speaker 1: So like in retrospect in November, would it have been

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Speaker 1: So I think Clemson is going to be in title

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Speaker 1: contention conversation. But if they're not, probably be because injury

699
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Speaker 1: if they don't make it, they're going to be a

701
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702
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703
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704
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707
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711
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Speaker 1: all varying degrees of really good to elite. That's what

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Speaker 1: the expectation is for him this year, which is cool,

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Speaker 1: Here's what December will sound like. Arch Manning was a bust.

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Speaker 1: And my tendency when that happens is to look back,

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Speaker 1: this case, I'm just saying I think he's going to

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Speaker 2: The hook here.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of folks are a lot of folks

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Speaker 2: What's your take gonna be? Did was he a bust?

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Speaker 1: Or was he just the player he was always gonna be?

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Speaker 1: And maybe you let your expectations get out of wat

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Speaker 2: So we did that. We announced the tour, the Fall

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Speaker 1: We're stopping in Columbus, Ohio for week one and we'll

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Speaker 2: It's going to be great. Here's what we'll make it

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Speaker 2: even more great.

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Speaker 1: That logo is sick and we're gonna have it on

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Speaker 1: We tore the thing down, we rebuilt it from scratch.

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Speaker 1: There's a little loading screen to put your email in

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Speaker 2: I love some of the stuff we got in there.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll add to it throughout the year, but I

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Speaker 1: As many announcements as we've had, we've got at least

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Speaker 1: We have shown you behind the scenes at Penn State

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Speaker 1: I'm going to toss to something we did earlier with

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Speaker 1: end the show. After we talk to him. Appreciate you guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate Greg and his entire staff here that have shown

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Speaker 2: Here is our one on one with Penn State head

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Speaker 2: coach James Franklin. This setup's nice. You dialed up sixty

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Speaker 2: eight degree weather for us. That's nice. We're right outside

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk outside this building, a lot

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Speaker 2: None of that stuff matters.

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Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't to me, and it doesn't in this building.

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Speaker 2: I truly believe that.

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Speaker 3: The problem is I got to have a bunch of

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868
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Speaker 2: We've earned that right.

869
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: So but but yeah, in the building, the expectations around

870
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: here are always really high. I mean last year, you know,

871
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: we finished a game before in the National Championship and

872
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: people were pissed, right, Like most places would die to

873
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: have that type of season. So that's always the expectation

874
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: here at Pennciate.

875
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: When you guys came out of the game last year,

876
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: semi final game, it was a kind of an unchartered territory,

877
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: but it was kind of weird because we were in

878
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: a playoff that we had never seen before. So you know,

879
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: you've got many different ways that you can look at that.

880
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: But when you came out of that.

881
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: Dust settled, How did you grade last year in totality?

882
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you take everything into consideration, really good,

883
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: you know, feel really good about the season. You just

884
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: feel like the way it ended, we had some opportunities,

885
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 3: especially early in the game that we didn't capitalize on

886
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: that could have changed the complexion of the game. So

887
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: that's what that's what frustrates you. You look back and

888
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: you're like, we really had an opportunity, you know, to

889
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: capitalize and really you make a run. So that's where

890
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: it kind of leaves you with a bad taste in

891
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: your mouth, and it's tremendous motivation for the off season.

892
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: And then you come around you head spring, you're in

893
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: fall camp. Now you're in the middle of fall camp.

894
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: Some places they're having to overhaul everything. That's pretty unenviable.

895
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: Position you don't have to do that. You got a

896
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: lot of proven commodities that are looking to get one

897
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: percent better. You got a lot of position unit groups

898
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: we're looking to get at least one percent better. When

899
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: you start to grade or even if you can when

900
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: you see a team a little over halfway through fall camp,

901
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: what are some of the indicators you're looking for to

902
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: say there's that one percent I'm looking for or do

903
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: you just have to see it on the field in

904
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: the fall.

905
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, So a little bit back to your previous question, right,

906
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: like last year, one of the things that wasn't talked

907
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: about a whole lot brand new offense coordinator, brand new

908
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: defense coordinator, brand new special teams coordinator this year. You know,

909
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: we're going in the year two with Andy koto Nikki.

910
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be significant for the players

911
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: and for him. Same thing with Justin Lestig, our special

912
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: teams coordinator. The challenge obviously is with coach Knowles, right,

913
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: you know, arguably the best defense coordinator in college football

914
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. But it's year one,

915
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: So how do we speed up that maturation process? Out

916
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 3: what I've seen so far? I think we're ahead on

917
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: offense and special teams as you would imagine, right. The

918
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: question that everybody's talking about is wide out. The three

919
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: wide outs that we brought in from the transfer portal,

920
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: as well as the guys that we already had in

921
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: the program. I think we've improved there. I think we've

922
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: taken a step in the right direction. We should have

923
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: one of the better old lines in the country. We

924
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: should have the best quarterback in college football. We've got

925
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: an argument for the best running back room in the country.

926
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: And you could go through the defense and say the

927
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: same thing with Zane Durant and then on the defensive

928
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: line and Tony Rojas and dom de Luca and Zachi

929
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: and aj Harris and the defensive backfield. We got a

930
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: lot of pieces. The thing that no one wants to

931
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: talk about, the holder, the snapper, the kicker, the punter,

932
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: they're all back. So there's just a lot of experienced

933
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: guys that understand what it takes to win at this level.

934
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: You didn't mention, or maybe you kind of glanced past

935
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: tight end room. There's a really significant backfield that happens there.

936
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: I was talking to someone here earlier today. You know,

937
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: you notice it Georgia when they had brock Bowers. When

938
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: they lost brock Bowers, there was this like doom and

939
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: gloom talk because.

940
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: They lost brock Bowers.

941
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Well, maybe the flip side of that coin is theoretically

942
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: you could have had the second best tight end in

943
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: the country behind him, but you don't know who that

944
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: is because of brock Bowers. What kind of tight end

945
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: depth do you have here? How much do you try?

946
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you brought it up, because I didn't

947
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: mean to skip over those guys. You know, you look

948
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 3: what we have done really over the last five years.

949
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: You know, we've had a second round draft choice, We've

950
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: had a first round draft cho We've had draft choice

951
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: after draft choice for the last five years. We're back

952
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: in a similar situation. Khalil Dinkins will be another draft choice.

953
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 3: Luke Reynolds is a guy that everybody was excited about

954
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: who played for US as a true freshman last year.

955
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Rapley got hurt and missed the season. Was going

956
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: to be our third tight end last year. So that

957
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: room is rolling. We've done a really good job of recruiting.

958
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: We've done a really good job of development. Ty Howells,

959
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: a letterman here as a captain here at Penn State,

960
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: has done a great job recruiting, developing that position. That's

961
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: going to continue to roll, and from what I've seen

962
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: with the guys that we brought in this year, it's

963
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: going to continue.

964
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: You've coached for a long time, and yet I assume

965
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: you believe you never stopped growing, you never stopped developing.

966
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: What are some of the things I mean as personal

967
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: as you're comfortable getting What are some of the things

968
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: that you know in the last year, I've specifically worked

969
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: on these to get myself better.

970
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so a couple things, right, You're constantly studying the game,

971
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: constantly talking to people about things that you handled the

972
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: previous year. You're talking about how do how do we

973
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: go into this season. I'm on a I'm on a walk.

974
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: The other day, I pick up the phone and call

975
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: coach Saban, right, like you've been in this situation before. Uh,

976
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: he had really good feedback. As you can imagine. I've

977
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 3: watched all this stuff. We've had a number of conversations

978
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: we were in the league together. But that was good.

979
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: A lot of times. It's not that they're going to

980
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: tell you anything different. They're reinforcing what you already known.

981
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: There's value in that, right. And then I think the

982
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: other thing is leaning in. Stan Drayton has been a

983
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: part of I think three national championships, right. Jim Knowles

984
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: just had a national championship last year. So I'm trying

985
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: to encourage Jim to say, look like I just was

986
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: a part of it, that this is what it looks like,

987
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: what we just did a practice yesterday, that's what it

988
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 3: looks like. This doesn't this is not aligned with championship

989
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: level football. So I'm encouraging them to talk about it

990
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: because we want to grow from their experiences as well.

991
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of fascination on the outside

992
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: about the stuff that we'll never get to see. We'll

993
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: never get to sit in a meeting room in some

994
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: of the first days of Jim Knowles.

995
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: Being in this building.

996
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what you say in a press conference,

997
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: and we've watched him before, but like the granular, let's

998
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: raise the hood and get every bit of information we can.

999
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: What have you seen from us? You know, what do

1000
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: you think differently than maybe philosophically what we think as

1001
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: generic as you have to keep it like, what is

1002
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: that process?

1003
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: Like?

1004
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because in our team meetings, I let

1005
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 3: the coordinators get up and speak as well, because I

1006
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: want everybody to hear what the defense is being taught,

1007
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: what the offense is being taught, because you can learn

1008
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: a lot that way. Across the ball. That's funny. Andy

1009
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 3: gets up, Andy Koto Nikki. You've been around him. He's

1010
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: got a bunch of personality. He's up there, He's had

1011
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: like four cups of coff He's talking a thousand miles

1012
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: an hour. Then Jim gets up and it takes him

1013
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: three minutes to even start talking, and then he's whispering,

1014
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: and everybody's kind of leaning in, like the Oldief Hutton commercials,

1015
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 3: and he's a little bit kind of a mad scientist

1016
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: and he kind of looks at things from a different lens,

1017
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: which I love. Right, you don't want a whole bunch

1018
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: of people in the building that.

1019
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: View the game the same way. And I think that's

1020
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: been great.

1021
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: I think there's really good balance between myself, the coordinators,

1022
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: their experiences. It's been valuable. But they're fascinating. Andy and

1023
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Jim couldn't be any more different in terms of how

1024
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: they go about things. And then Lustig is probably closer

1025
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 3: to me personality wise, to be honest.

1026
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: With you, are there any personality traits from your staff

1027
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: that you see that's rubbed off on me?

1028
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: A little bit off on me?

1029
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because I respect, you know, really smart people.

1030
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: I respect football people that live this.

1031
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm in there taking notes just like

1032
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: the players. Jim says something I like, I want to

1033
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: double down on, so I'll reinforce it.

1034
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: Hey, what Jim just said is what we say.

1035
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: You know within the program all the time, what I

1036
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 3: say all the time, just the different way of saying it.

1037
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: So Jim's a unique guy, and I thought we've done

1038
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: a really good job of crossover. So when we have

1039
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 3: the opportunity in the spring, when the offenses meeting and

1040
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: the defense is lifting, I have those guys sit across

1041
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: the ball in those meetings. Coaches don't do that enough.

1042
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: You're the D line coach and you go to a

1043
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: clinic and you just listen to D line coaches, right,

1044
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: go listen to what the O line coach is teaching.

1045
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: So this stuff has been really valuable. And this is

1046
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: one of the better scenarios really since I was at

1047
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: Kansas State as the offensive coordinator and Rahim Morris was

1048
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator and we would script together. He said, look,

1049
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play you know, cover three right here. I

1050
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 3: want four verticals to stress my defense. And we would

1051
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 3: script on what I wanted to be challenged, what he

1052
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: wanted to be challenged. And Jim and Andy have really

1053
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: developed that type of relationship, and I think that's when

1054
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: you have a chance to really grow because they're worried

1055
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: about Penn State's development, not the defense, worth the offense.

1056
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: Go back to what your mentality was about your team

1057
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: coming out of spring, and then we fast forward a

1058
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: few months. You're kind of a little bit over halfway

1059
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: through fall camp. Are there any things that have surprised you,

1060
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: maybe plus side, negative side that you think now that

1061
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: you thought differently in the spring.

1062
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: Not really. I would say that when you ask that question,

1063
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: probably the thing that jumps out in my mind is

1064
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: one of the things we did different is we were

1065
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: much more aggressive this spring with installation. We were much

1066
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 3: more aggressive in the summer with installation, saying, look, let's

1067
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: put a lot on them. The mistakes can be made now,

1068
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: and then that would allow us to go in to

1069
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: the summer. Now, this is the third time they've been

1070
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: through it, and we can decide do we need to

1071
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: take some of this stuff out?

1072
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: Is it too much? Is it not enough? Those types

1073
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: of things.

1074
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: But I think that's been helpful, being really aggressive and

1075
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: putting probably more on their plate this and our OTAs

1076
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: and things like that we're allowed to have in college football.

1077
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: That's been a different approach, which I think was valuable.

1078
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: The other thing is when we're installing on offense and defense,

1079
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: we're usually pretty vanilla in the first couple of days. Well,

1080
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: Andy's as you know, a mass shift in motion guy. Well,

1081
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: most defense coordinators when they're installing, they don't want that.

1082
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: Jim wanted that. So those philosophies that think had been

1083
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: helpful in terms of just speeding up the maturation process

1084
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: of our.

1085
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: Team maturation process physically eminently with Drew Aller the way

1086
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: last year ended man that wrecked some people mentally, and

1087
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: I assume it took him at least a few days

1088
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: to get over. But in totality, like when you look

1089
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: at him, what were the specific areas you said, you've

1090
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: got to get better here, and then how has he

1091
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Speaker 1: responded to it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he didn't have any. Like some of

1093
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: these guys, they have significant areas of weakness that you

1094
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: need to work on, he.

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00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: Really didn't have that.

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00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 3: He has taken significant steps every year in term leadership,

1097
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: in terms of understanding of the offense, in terms of

1098
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: chemistry with the wide receivers, with all of it, he's

1099
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: taken steps, and I think it's been significant. He went

1100
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: from two hundred and forty two pounds to about two

1101
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: thirty five. He's moving better, he's more athletic.

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00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: But I think it's.

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00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: He's you look at his touchdown interception ratio, about as

1104
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 3: good as anybody in the country over his career, but

1105
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: there's times where we need him to be aggressive and

1106
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. We have to call

1107
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: that to call the game that way a little bit more,

1108
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 3: and we need him to do it. But it's a

1109
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 3: fine line because then now you throw a couple more

1110
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: picks and everybody's complaining about that. So it's a balance

1111
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: between those two things. As an offense, calling the game

1112
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: in a way where we're going to push the ball

1113
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: down the field, having the guys at the receiver position

1114
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 3: to make those plays, and then Drew to be comfortable

1115
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: in letting a rip.

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00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm personally like, I'm so excited with the wide receiver

1117
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: guys that you picked up. And you know, I don't

1118
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: know how much you show week one, week two, We're

1119
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: eventually going to get to a spot there where the

1120
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: whole country's eyes are on you. Ch Oregon comes in here,

1121
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: You've got big ten play coming up. How comfortable are

1122
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: you with the development and production of that unit to

1123
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: be able to turn it loose to win games whenever

1124
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: you need to.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be a big key to our success,

1126
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: right That's why we were aggressive in the transfer portal.

1127
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: I think you know myself and Drew obviously, you know

1128
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: when you lose a game like that, there's a ton

1129
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: of criticism and the head coach and the quarterback are

1130
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 3: going to get it right.

1131
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 2: That's the nature of the job.

1132
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: But I also think there's an aspect where I watch

1133
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: ESPN and it's a highlight and a quarterback throws the

1134
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 3: ball deep in double coverage and a receiver goes up

1135
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: and snatches, and everybody it's like, what a humble will play.

1136
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: It wasn't really a great play. The receiver made a

1137
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: great play. We need more of that. We got it

1138
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: from Tyler Warren last year's tight end position, so we

1139
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 3: kept feeding him. But we need to make defenses defend

1140
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 3: a fifty three and a third the whole width of

1141
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 3: the the length of the field, and more than.

1142
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Speaker 2: Just one threat.

1143
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: We got to be able to spread the ball around

1144
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: so people can't say to themselves, if we stop this

1145
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: tight end or the running game, then they're gonna have

1146
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: a hard time beating us. And that's gonna be really

1147
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: important that we established that in the first three games.

1148
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Speaker 1: You were talking about the pressure of the criticism that comes.

1149
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's either glory or it's castigation depending on

1150
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: the outcomes of those close games. They used to say

1151
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: about Kirby for a long time, can't win the big one,

1152
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: can't win the big one.

1153
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: Then he won the big One, and.

1154
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Then they said it about Ryan Day, can't win the

1155
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: big one, can't win the big one. He's won the

1156
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: big one. The big ones just a national championship. So

1157
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: then they move on. All right, who's next? James Franklin's

1158
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: over here, Brian Kelly is over here. You get compensated

1159
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: a lot. You've got good resources here, so no one

1160
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: feels sorry for you. Have you ever thought it's fair,

1161
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: it's unfair, or do you not care?

1162
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: Well?

1163
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 3: What I think is that nobody else cares.

1164
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna spend any time on it again.

1165
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, when you

1166
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: took the Penn State job, you knew what came with it.

1167
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: When you decided to be the quarterback at Penn State,

1168
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: this is what comes with it. You don't fill up

1169
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven thousand seat stadium with normal people.

1170
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 3: Fans is short for fanatics, right, Like you drove around

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Speaker 3: this town.

1172
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: Where do they all come from?

1173
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: Right?

1174
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: So that's what comes with it, and we embraced that.

1175
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 3: The best part about all of it. We're in total control.

1176
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: We're in total control to change the narrative. But I

1177
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Speaker 3: love that like this. These are the conversations we're in.

1178
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: That's why I came to Penn State.

1179
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 2: Tames. Frankly, we appreciate it, man, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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