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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another edition of Between the Horns.

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Speaker 1: Miles Simmons with me is DeMarco far It is eleven

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Speaker 1: twenty am Pacific time. May second, almost May fourth? Real

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Speaker 1: fourth be with you? Yeah, May second isn't it's May second.

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Speaker 1: It's almost May third. It's almost May there was almost

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Speaker 1: all have an appreciation for Star Wars day. Yes on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Good time. Good to be back with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: If you missed the last podcast where we went through

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Speaker 1: pick by pick through the entire NFL draft for the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams. I got eleven players. That was a

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Speaker 1: good podcast. I feel like you should go back and

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Speaker 1: listen to that. We are going to talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit more draft today as well as some other topics

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Speaker 1: as it relates to the Los Angeles Rams and maybe

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Speaker 1: some other random things that we decided now that we're

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Speaker 1: through the process of selecting. Now we know who they

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Speaker 1: are and how do they fit on this football team.

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Speaker 1: So I guess we'll attack that. You looked really tired

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Speaker 1: after the draft. That was That was a crazy process.

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Speaker 1: When you think a team really doesn't have a first rounder,

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Speaker 1: it should be a little bit easier, but it was

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Speaker 1: almost harder. Well, I think it was harder in the

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Speaker 1: in the fact that you had eleven picks to cover

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Speaker 1: ten of them in one day. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: there were trades going on and all these different things, um,

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Speaker 1: and being sitting in the draft room and trying to

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Speaker 1: document things, you know, note by note, um. And obviously

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Speaker 1: there's going to be the series that we have on

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Speaker 1: the rams dot com inside the draft room you can

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Speaker 1: read all about what was going on in there. From

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Speaker 1: my perspective since I was sitting in there, um, but

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Speaker 1: I guess just trying to take down notes of every

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Speaker 1: little thing that was going on in there. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot yeah, right parts, and so not only that, but

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to communicate to our teams, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: and then it's I'm sorry, I don't know exactly what

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Speaker 1: So it was I guess from that perspective, Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was kind of a tiring process. So if less need

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Speaker 1: and Sean McVay spun around and said, Miles, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of this guy? Would you be honest? Would

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Speaker 1: you tell them exactly how you feel about the athlete?

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Speaker 1: Or would you lie? Would you tell them what you

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Speaker 1: want what they wanted to hear? Well, I wouldn't know

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Speaker 1: the answer. Oh okay, if you did, if I did,

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, why would they do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I know you. I know you're

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Speaker 1: going through a hypothect. Maybe they needed your opinion at

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Speaker 1: the time. What in the maybe you were the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it was fifty fifty and you were the tiebreaker. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? You know how these scouts personnel people, right, directors,

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Speaker 1: then I believe that the general manager would probably trust

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Speaker 1: his own instincts. What do you think of Joseph noteboom,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna pick it. You got ten seconds. I'm in

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Speaker 1: an exactly as we mentioned all the last podcast, our

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Speaker 1: disembodied voice rat is a TCU alumnus. Grog Wow, Yes,

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Speaker 1: so Matt, you were very happy, good player. Many very

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Speaker 1: very good player. I hope you can replace him at TCU.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you got a good left tackle.

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Speaker 1: We lost our quarterback too. We lost a lot, so

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a interesting year. What happens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was good, thick. I will say this. At one point,

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Speaker 1: um Lessni did come up to me and he was like,

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Speaker 1: wasn't He didn't approach me like what are you doing

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Speaker 1: mean the Steelers could have other plans. The Steelers could

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Speaker 1: best man win, right, And I mean, I think though

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Speaker 1: mean a Todd Gurley is still a potential MVP candidate, right,

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Speaker 1: How does that change Todd Gurley? How does that change athlete?

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Speaker 1: that does happen. It does happen, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's how it'd win because it just elevated your game. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: high performance business. We talk about it. Man to get drafted,

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Speaker 1: you see a guy like Randy Moss, this is that

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Speaker 1: toll that fast and can jump higher than anybody that's

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Speaker 1: on the field. And he raises his hand after one

425
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Speaker 1: step as in he's open. Yes, that's scary, that's the league. Yeah,

426
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Speaker 1: one step in, you're open, and he's right most of

427
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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a trip. Yeah.

428
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Speaker 1: And Randy Moss, he's basically like the prototypical video game player,

429
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Speaker 1: like he would put up video game stats, especially that

430
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Speaker 1: year that he was with Brady and oh seven, oh yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: and after what the Patriots would trade about a four

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Speaker 1: and a six yeah to acquire Randy Moss from the

433
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Speaker 1: other Raiders. Oh yeah, that's a big of a steel

434
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Speaker 1: as there's ever been, maybe until Jimmy Garoppola. Well, one

435
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Speaker 1: of the best plays that sticks out in my head

436
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: was the Rams went to New England for a preseason game. Right,

437
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 1: so they're just warming up, Tom Brady drops back on

438
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Speaker 1: a seven step drop and Randy Moss is going on

439
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: a go route. Yeah, Tom Brady throws as far as

440
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Speaker 1: he can. Randy Moss hadn't looked back for the ball yet,

441
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Speaker 1: and it's traveling in the air. The crowd's watching it.

442
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: The crowd's getting excited because if he catches it, he's

443
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Speaker 1: either run on one or it's a touchdown. Yeah. The

444
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 1: balls about three yards from him, and he still hadn't

445
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Speaker 1: looked back for it. He's just running straight ahead. Right

446
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: as the ball gets to his shoulder, he looks catches

447
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Speaker 1: it touchdown, just like that. I mean, I'm like, this

448
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: is crazy. That's this should be illegal. Like if you're

449
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: because if you're a cornerback and he's not looking back,

450
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Speaker 1: you have no clue. You've got no chance. You're just

451
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Speaker 1: trying to keep up with him. Yeah, and he's not

452
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Speaker 1: looking back, so you have no idea where the ball is.

453
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Speaker 1: Right by the time he looks back, it's on his shoulder.

454
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Speaker 1: All you can do is patting him on the button,

455
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Speaker 1: say good route. Yeah. Yeah, that's if you don't get

456
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Speaker 1: fired by the time you get back to the match.

457
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Speaker 1: That's exactly that. Now, that's Randy Moss. That's so fascinating

458
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Speaker 1: to me too, I mean, as I use the word fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Now in the last that's twice, okay, yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: one more, okay, all right, and then it'll be a

461
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Speaker 1: fine you have the punt. Yeah, I know. Um what

462
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say about Randy Moss. I was watching

463
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, just highlights of his There was

464
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: for some reason, must have been a birthday or whatnot.

465
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Speaker 1: His highlights got on Facebook and it was just eat

466
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Speaker 1: straight minutes of just Randy Moss plays. And I don't know.

467
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Speaker 1: My football consciousness probably began in nineteen ninety nine, okay,

468
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: when the Browns came back to Cleveland and so like

469
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Speaker 1: we beat them. Yeah, yes, I'm sorry, No, it's you

470
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Speaker 1: were conscious then then you would know. I know, I've

471
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Speaker 1: watched you play. Not out of you guys. Yeah, had

472
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Speaker 1: Tim couchy quarterback. Everybody did except for New Orleans. I'll

473
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Speaker 1: never forget when the Rams the Browns beat New Orleans.

474
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Speaker 1: It was I think Halloween. Yeah, on whatever week that was.

475
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Speaker 1: You probably know better than me. Yeah, okay, nine, go ahead, Um,

476
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: but Tim couch threw a Hail Mary to Kevin Johnson

477
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Speaker 1: and he caught it. I think in the front right

478
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Speaker 1: corner of the end zone if you're the offense looking

479
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Speaker 1: at it. And that was the Browns first win since

480
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Speaker 1: they had been back. I don't remember and they at all. Well,

481
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't remember that you were. You were probably otherwise.

482
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Speaker 1: It was busy. I was a little busy. Yeah, you

483
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Speaker 1: were a little busy that day, probably beating the snot

484
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Speaker 1: out of somebody like you guys did many times in

485
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Speaker 1: ninety nine. But then that was one and then the

486
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Speaker 1: other one they beat the Steelers. Phil Dawson h that

487
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Speaker 1: I remember because they beat the Steelers. That was a

488
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Speaker 1: big deal. That wasn't a lot, Yes it was. It was.

489
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Speaker 1: So those are the two wins that I remember. But anyway,

490
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Speaker 1: Randy Moss being that kind of player, you know, like

491
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Speaker 1: I knew who Randy Moss was, and you know, you

492
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Speaker 1: know who Dante Culpepper is with the he does the

493
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Speaker 1: rolling thing when he hits the Randy mosson deep Past.

494
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Speaker 1: But I don't think I really got a real appreciation

495
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Speaker 1: for how good Randy Moss was until he got to

496
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Speaker 1: the Patriots and of in, and at that point I

497
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: was kind of just rooting for the Patriots because I

498
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: wanted to see an undefeated You know, I did too,

499
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Speaker 1: and but I was actually rooting against them. You know

500
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: when when they got to the Super Bowl, I wanted

501
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: to see Eli kind of you know, derail that just

502
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: for fun. Yeah, the Patriots fans were getting a little

503
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, getting a little bobnoxious, a little obnoxious, you

504
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yes, as they still are in Boston.

505
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Speaker 1: So as they say the Giants save the world, Yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: good for them. I don't know if they really did.

507
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Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots have still one like, well, they

508
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Speaker 1: don't have an undefeated season. That's true because the seventy

509
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: two Dolphins got annoying. Aren't they still all that toasting? Yeah,

510
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Speaker 1: I mean for that reason, I wanted them to have

511
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Speaker 1: the undefeated season, just to stop the seventy two Dolphins.

512
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Speaker 1: But then I'm thinking, I don't want New England having

513
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Speaker 1: this at all. Yeah, we would never end you know what,

514
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Speaker 1: You're right, we still would be hearing about it. I'd

515
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Speaker 1: rather have the seventy two Dolphins still doing it. Do

516
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Speaker 1: you see the thirty for thirty of the two bills

517
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Speaker 1: that they had with Bill Belichick and Bill Parcels. I

518
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Speaker 1: haven't finished it, but I've seen most of it. Yes,

519
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: it is fascinating. Yeah, yeah, it's really really, really really interesting. Yes,

520
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: and it makes sense some I think JB put that

521
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: out on Twitter or somebody did. If if you could

522
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Speaker 1: pick any coach in history right now to take on Belichick, like,

523
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Speaker 1: who would you pick? And easy? Parcels? I guess yeah,

524
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Speaker 1: he trained the other guy. Yeah, absolutely, I would pick

525
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Speaker 1: Parcels on the heartbeat. I think you would have to

526
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Speaker 1: say though, that Belichick has surpassed Parcels on that scally.

527
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it in Parcels his presence, maybe not.

528
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Speaker 1: But Belichick has more rings. Okay, Belichick has been five

529
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Speaker 1: Super Bowls and he's been Eli's got more rings in Peyton. Well, no,

530
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Speaker 1: they're they're equal, They're equal. Okay, So wouldn't it have

531
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Speaker 1: been fun maybe to see Eli and Payton going to

532
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl against one minute desired? I couldn't. The other

533
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Speaker 1: matchup I want outside of the Rams making the Super

534
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Speaker 1: Bowl is I want Rogers Brady, Rogers, Bradier Brady, Definitely Roger.

535
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Speaker 1: I would rather see. Yeah, whoever has the ball last wins?

536
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: The point I was coming to in that too Bill's documentary. Um,

537
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Speaker 1: And I don't know why I was coming to this,

538
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: but the oh, the undefeated season, Patriots, get it, got it,

539
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: Randy Moss. I'm trying to connect the dots, like how

540
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: my mind just made this loop. But anyway, a little

541
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: just throwing it out there. Anyway, go ahead, Matt, you

542
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: want to jump in here, No, I stick with little words.

543
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: This is a fun podcast so far. Literally my Pack

544
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: ten education. Nobody was doing that. That's what I felt. Anyway,

545
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah you know it's Pack ten. See that

546
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: means DeMarco's old because it's Pack twelve now I know. Anyway,

547
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: go ahead. As what I was going to say about

548
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Speaker 1: the undefeated season and everything, um, Bill bell wild check.

549
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Speaker 1: As they went into like the Giants trophy room, they

550
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: were at My Life Stadium, and so he set. Bill

551
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Speaker 1: Belichick says to Bill Parcels, Oh, these are the ones.

552
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: These are the twos Lombardies we went together. These are

553
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: the two they beat us or they took from us,

554
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: or something like Wow, that's the right way to think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

555
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah. You know a lot of teams we beat

556
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: that year in ninety nine. I mean there's two in

557
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: particular that it won't let it go, but one got

558
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl I think two years after that was Tampa.

559
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: Some of those guys couldn't let it go. Who what

560
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: do you mean some of those guys, some of those

561
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: guys on that team couldn't let it go. On the

562
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: Tampa team, they couldn't accept that we beat them, really

563
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Speaker 1: because they thought it was their Lombardi. And I can't

564
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: disagree because we thought it was ours too. Okay, That's

565
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: that's what happens. When you get to the top of

566
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Speaker 1: you know, the playoff match up. All those teams feel

567
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Speaker 1: like they they've earned that Lombardi. Yes, Minnesota couldn't let

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Speaker 1: it go, and they still can't let it go. Yeah,

569
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: they still think they were the better team. I mean,

570
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: how do you argue that, oh, we were better than you?

571
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, I thank you. Yeah, we got

572
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: this right here. Yeah, okay, ring, Yeah, I have this.

573
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: It's nice to think that way, but you know I

574
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: have the proof. Yes, I'm going to go kiss thence

575
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: before I go to bed right every night? Yeah, exactly,

576
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: shut up, Tu, I don't have it. I don't have this,

577
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: so or this stay tuned. Yeah, keeps getting better. Yeah,

578
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: we'll see look out now. Yeah, what a good segue

579
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: into getting back into the twenty eighteen Los Angeles Rams.

580
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: That's the sobering thing when people ask me about the

581
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: draft picks and domminckinsue, keep to Lee Peterson, anything, even

582
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. It goes back to golf. Yes, that's that's

583
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: where your focus should be. His improvement. If he improves,

584
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: everybody improves. Well, I mean, this is what we talk about, right.

585
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: It is the most important position in sports, and there's

586
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: reason for that. The quarterback has his hands on the

587
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: ball every single play, and it's it is vital for

588
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: that guy to know exactly what is going on around

589
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: him so that everybody else can succeed. I mean, you

590
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: can have the best wide receiver in the world, and

591
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: if the quarterback can't get the ball to him, it's

592
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: not going to matter, right, you know, if the if

593
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't hand off the ball to Todd Gurley

594
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: or get the ball to Todd Gurley on a screen,

595
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily matter how good Todd Gurley is. If

596
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: your play fake suck, it doesn't matter what you do. Yes, yeah,

597
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: the defense is going to key in on you. So

598
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff has to get better. The better he gets,

599
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: the better this team gets. The more primetime games you get,

600
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: So you have five this year. Yes, that proves how

601
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: good he was last year. So keep improving your profile

602
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: only goes up. I don't think we talked about the

603
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: schedule very much at all. We haven't. No, what did

604
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: you think of the schedule when it came out. I'm

605
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: excited for this team. I'm excited for the fan base. Yeah,

606
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: for the teams that are coming to town, for the

607
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: the the road trips that you don't have to take.

608
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: When you think about last season, Oh my gosh. Yeah, man,

609
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say it was brutal

610
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: because we didn't play right. We didn't get to these

611
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: cities and have to play football on game day. But

612
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: that's a lot of miles. No, it is, And I

613
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: mean that that's the beauty of what this schedule is

614
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: this year when you face the AFC West and you're

615
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: and you're doing the NFC North. But you know, the

616
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: NFC North is better than maybe the AFC North in

617
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Speaker 1: terms of travel because you have to go to Chicago

618
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: and Detroit. Those are four hour flights now maybe four

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Speaker 1: and a half, and depending on when you get them,

620
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Speaker 1: could ring. It's true, but it's not like you know,

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Speaker 1: say Baltimore, where we're going for the preseason. But if

622
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Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the regular season and you're

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Speaker 1: only going there for a couple of days, that's five

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Speaker 1: and a half six hours, right, Yeah, you know, challenging

625
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: for coaches and players. Right. Pittsburgh is further away. Cleveland

626
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: is eithern further away. We go to both of those

627
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: places next year. I'm in twenty nineteen Pittsburgh in Cleveland.

628
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Speaker 1: But I think just from the standpoint of like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to go to Jacksonville, stay there for

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Speaker 1: a few more days, go to London, play a few

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Speaker 1: days later, come back, and then go to New York. Yes, exactly.

632
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Just the travel is much much more manageable. This actually

633
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: one question when you think of that New York game,

634
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: what comes mine? Um, Robert Woods fifty two yard touchdown,

635
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: third and thirty three, and he scores third and thirty three. Yeah,

636
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: and he scores he scored fifty three yards out Yeah,

637
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: everybody's fired. Everybody's fired. Just bypass the locker room, head

638
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: on out door. Keep the pads. It's monopoly, yeah, do

639
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: not you have sullied those pads. Keep it and thirty

640
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: three and he scores. I remember that Coaches show. That's

641
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: all I said to Sean McVay third and thirty three. Really, really,

642
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: what did not that you should say this, but what

643
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: was Sean mcvay's facial reaction? Like he just kept smiling?

644
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: You know, you spend it to him off the thirty

645
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: three a screen that goes for a touchdown. I mean,

646
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: that's how you know what's going right. Yeah, that's how

647
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what's gonna your season is setting up to

648
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: be special. Yes, yeah, and that was only one of

649
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: many touchdowns in that game. Oh yeah, but that was

650
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: that was a pretty special game. Well that's when I

651
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: really got to figure out or understand his approach to football.

652
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: And I love it. And I told this to some

653
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: guys I used to play with. Masters of offense, they're

654
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: really masters of defense. They really have a great understanding

655
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: of what we're trying to do on the defensive side

656
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: of the football. So that's what makes them great. They're

657
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: great athletes. They can throw, they can run their fast,

658
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: they can make people mess. All that stuff. That's that's different,

659
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: that's separate, that's individual. But what they are is they

660
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: can think with the defense. They understand what they're trying

661
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: to do and what their concepts are, and when you're

662
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: trying to cheat. So if you're not playing this coverage

663
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: or this alignment correctly, he's going to make you pay. Yeah,

664
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: And that's what I kept seeing throughout the year. If

665
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: you'll see guys that are freelancing on defense, well, he's

666
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna make you pay for that at some point. Or

667
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: you're too aggressive going after the quarterback, Well you're gonna

668
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: pay for the screen and two plays letter here it is.

669
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: So that sort of stuff you appreciate. But that third

670
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: and thirty three, from that game on, I really got

671
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: to see the I guess, the beauty and the genius

672
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: of what they're trying to do offensively. Well. I think

673
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: that game was kind of a turning point too, just

674
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: in terms of, Okay, coming out of the bye week,

675
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: how are you going to respond? You know, you've had

676
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: a couple of really good wins, you had that Seattle

677
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: loss at home, then you go to Jacksonville, And at

678
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: that time it really was and at that time, nobody

679
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: really kind of quite knew what Jacksonville would be. I mean, yes,

680
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: they had what forced five interceptions off of been Robson

681
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: then before knocking safeties out, he was, but I don't

682
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: know that anybody really believed that that Jacksonville would win

683
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: that division in the AFC ceuth And so you go

684
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: in there to their house, you take the opening kickoff

685
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: back and then of course you know Fornat breaks away

686
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: for seventy five yards, but you block a punt, you

687
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: get a touchdown. That way, defense and special teams really

688
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: contributed to that win in a big way. And then

689
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: you go to London and you beat the snot out

690
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals thirty three zero. And then you know,

691
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you have that week off and you might be feeling

692
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: yourself a little bit, and you know, you say trap game,

693
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: whatever that might mean, and then you go into New York,

694
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: New Jersey and you defeat them in the Giants. The

695
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: way you did like that to me was like, oh,

696
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: this team is for real. One of the things we

697
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: learned during that even before that with Dick for Meal,

698
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: was how to make playoff teams. So this is before

699
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: we actually turned the corner. So we were one of

700
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: the also rands, and he was trying to teach us

701
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: how to be a winning football team. And then a

702
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: playoff football team. And he used to read these things

703
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: off to us every single day, and one of the

704
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: things that stood out was what makes a playoff team

705
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: playoff teams keep losing teams losing? Yes, I remember you

706
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: saying this last year New York was struggling. Yes, so

707
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: you should go there and dominate. You can't give them

708
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: any life at all. Yeah, And I think that's what

709
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: that team did coming off a bye week. So yes.

710
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean if you weren't impressed with Sean McVay, at

711
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: least I was coming off that bye week. You can

712
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: take a team to Jacksonville, stay in Jacksonville, to go

713
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: to London, beat Arizona like you did, then take a

714
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: week off, and then come back and perform as well

715
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: as you did versus New York in New York. That

716
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: to me is phenomenal. Give the players, give the coaches

717
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: credit too. If there's any reason I think that the

718
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: Rams will be able to handle the expectations of this season,

719
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: it's things like that like Sean McVeagh, where he handles

720
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: the attitude of this team and just preaches the processes

721
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: one day at a time, one day at a time,

722
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: don't get too far ahead of yourself. Make sure that

723
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: your processes are focused on daily improvement and daily excellence.

724
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: And if you've ever heard of McVeigh press conference, yeah,

725
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have heard those two phrases. I try

726
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: to bring it home. Just win the day I do.

727
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: My daughter is worried about the SAT, she's worried about college.

728
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, all this stuff is twelve, you know, sixteen

729
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: months off. Hey, just win today. Yes, just worry about today.

730
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: We'll worry about tomorrow tomorrow, but today is today, and

731
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: it helps. She gets out of the car, she's happy. Yes, yeah,

732
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: it's true. And like there is um like Mayby put

733
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: it up this pyramid in the team meeting room now

734
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: and it basically is like laying out the coaching philosophy.

735
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: We not me is in the middle of it. You know,

736
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: daily improvement, daily x lence is on there, the standards

737
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: are on all that stuff. It's I honestly I had

738
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: I had a graphic designer printed out and put it

739
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: on my desk because I think those those things to me,

740
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: they translate not just from football but anything you do.

741
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: If you focus on daily improvement and daily excellence, you're

742
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna get better at it. Block out distraction, right, I mean,

743
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: you know you could be wanting to lose weight. Daily improvement,

744
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: daily excellence. Well, that's what I mean. I need positive

745
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: reinforcement every day. You're beautiful, DeMarco, Thank you very much. See,

746
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: but that's not helping. That's a lie. That's an absolute why.

747
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Or you could spend like a bunch

748
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: of money on a personal trainer like I just did.

749
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: If I'm not going LiPo, it's not gonna work, nobody,

750
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: asked trainer. I got Kanye in the brain. I'm sorry, Well, yeah,

751
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: said I'm sorry. We don't need to go there. Have

752
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: you heard the one about the lion and the is

753
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: the lion and the wish the line in the gazel,

754
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: right is that the one? What are you? Every morning

755
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: in Africa, a line wakes up and he must be

756
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: faster than the fastest gazelle, than the slowest gazelle or

757
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, in order to eat unless he's

758
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna die. And every morning the gazelle wakes up, he

759
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: must be faster than the Yeah. But the bottom line

760
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: is every morning when the sun comes up, you better

761
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: be running. Yeah, that's what I saw every day walking

762
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: into the building. Yeah, yeah, I miss that sort of stuff. Yeah,

763
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: I wish I could do that everything. I would. I

764
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: would put that on my walls if I could. Yeah,

765
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: yeah I can't. I'm married. That's not gonna work. It is.

766
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: It's very like you can't, especially for us who go

767
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: over to the facility so often and seeing everybody get

768
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: better day by day. Yeah, you can't just like go

769
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: back home and sit on your couch and like binge

770
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: watch three seasons or something like you're just like what

771
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: did I do today? Yeah? It makes you feel bad

772
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: about yourself, right sometimes? Yeah, yeah, these guys are working.

773
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: I should be working too. Yeah that's yeah. No, that's

774
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: the way I feel about it. That's that's why I've

775
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: now done this person. I heard you have a trainer. Yeah,

776
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: really I do. As I'm sorry that your message over

777
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: my trainer kike his but I'm going to I'm going

778
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: to play that for my train. No quarter none. Yes.

779
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: If he says he's tired, add two more reps, he

780
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: usually adjusts the different exercises to like, oh good, you

781
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: know what I can and am clearly struggling with. So

782
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: I could bet you now thirty push ups for one

783
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. Oh no, we're going to do this again.

784
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you a trainer. Now I do I

785
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: should be better. I should be able to get thirty

786
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: next between the horns, Yeah, next between the horns. We'll

787
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: do it right here, live on ramsmail bag, right here, Yeah,

788
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: miles and thirty push ups for one hundred bucks. Just

789
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: tilt the camera and he got to twenty seven? Was

790
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: it twenty seven or twenty six? I know, I get

791
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: twenty seven. The last he got the twenty seven and

792
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: twenty eight. You couldn't get up. Yeah, okay, all right, Yeah,

793
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: that's the that's the hardest thing to be though. Like

794
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the push ups, like what we've been doing. I don't

795
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: know if anybody really gives a crap about my workouts,

796
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: but this is what I think about. But like we've

797
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: been working on like a steady ball, and so sometimes

798
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: we'll have me like try to do push ups off

799
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: of that. So there was one day I did bench

800
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: and I wasn't doing that much on the bench because

801
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: we were doing super sets. So it would like bench

802
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: like eight raps or something, and then go onto the

803
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: steady ball and like try to push yourself up off

804
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: of that, like your hands are pretty close to get

805
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: you yoked. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm like,

806
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: were you trying to fight? Man? What's going on with you? Nobody? Okay,

807
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I just want to look better for myself. Look out,

808
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Matt Miles Swollen's coming at you. Look out. No, Matt

809
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: doesn't live with me anymore, so he'll be I do

810
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: run into him at the gym though. I see him

811
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: getting his work. Yeah, I see you over there. I

812
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: think you must be on the bench. Maybe, uh like

813
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: my peak in high school because at like two seventy five. Yeah, yes, no,

814
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: I like so we see each other at the gym

815
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: all the time. Nice shout out to twenty four hour Fitness. Nice. Yeah.

816
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: So anyway, come work out with you guys, come in,

817
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: let's go, come on, let's go right now. So sponsorship

818
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: is gonna love that plug. So you didn't have to

819
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: say it, man, we could have just let it so organic, right. Um,

820
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: what else can we talk about? Well, you know, we

821
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: finished really talking about the schedule, and I didn't want

822
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: to bring up the fact that like this schedule you

823
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: were talking about travel. Um. Oh yeah, we have two

824
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans trips, which is cool. Um, and we also

825
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: have that long Baltimore trip where they are going to

826
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: be practicing with the Baltimore Ravens. The details of that

827
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: have not quite been worked out, but that's going to

828
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: be interesting. It will be very interesting. We might get

829
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: some chain snatching patree is on the Ravens. Now. I hope,

830
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: for the love of God, I hope they bury the hatchet.

831
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Just come on, play football. Just play football. It's competitive enough.

832
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be practice those those um joint practices. Though

833
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: in training camp they eat heated a lot, of course

834
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: they do, especially when you're bringing built in Yes, yeah,

835
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: but I just mean from the standpoint I mean you

836
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: were there when Rams and Cowboys were practicing. Yeah, wallops

837
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: started happening last year Rams Chargers. It's just I think

838
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: it just it creates a situation where like you've got

839
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: two teams. They were finally seeing a different color, they're

840
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: finally seeing an opponent like you don't want to do that.

841
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: You get to unload on some other people, right, yeah, okay,

842
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: But just going back to the first brawl with the Cowboys,

843
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: what did you get out of that as a football team,

844
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: both both sides, What did you get out of a

845
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: brawl like that? Maybe you came a little closer together.

846
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, you think maybe I don't know. Okay,

847
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're probably lucky that no one broke

848
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: their hand. Oh for sure, that's what I Especially when

849
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: a wide receiver named Des Bryant was trying to fight

850
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: people with helmets on True, Well are you doing that?

851
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: There was another corner that was in his ear. Oh yeah,

852
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: it's another player that no longer plays. Okay, that's what

853
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So what do brawls we do? That was

854
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: that was so fun for the crowd. It was fun

855
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: for the crowd. And we can tell this. Yeah, well

856
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: that's why people watching NASCAR. Right. The funny thing about

857
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: that practice training camp twenty fifteen, Dez Bryant was not practicing.

858
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: Remember this they were doing. Yeah, they're doing one on

859
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: one routes, right, and Truemain Johnson and Dez Bryant are

860
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: just yammering at each other, just john back and forth

861
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: and back and forth and back and forth. And Dees

862
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: is not practicing. I think he had a hamstring injury

863
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: or something. And Des is like trying to get in

864
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: the line so that he can go against True and

865
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is like, dude, get back, step back, and

866
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: like at that time, Tony Romo is still the quarterback.

867
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: So Tony wasn't like saying very much, but he was

868
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: involved as one quarterback would be. He was chirping back,

869
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: he was. But you really had a lot going on

870
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: between True and des Oh yeah. I was standing next

871
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: to wool Weatherspoon and I said this will get out

872
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: of hand, and with seven minutes the whole place turned

873
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: into a brawl. Bang. Oh yeah, yeah it did. Yeah, yeah,

874
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: it's for me. It started when Tremaine took his helmet off. Yeah,

875
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: during a drill. Yeah, that's what you don't do, right, Yeah,

876
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: why are you doing that? Because there's no one out

877
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: here that can stop me? Right? Well that's also that

878
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: turned out to be true. Yes, yes, so, I mean

879
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's something I don't I don't know how much

880
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: we'll really see of that. I bet both coaches are

881
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: just looking for good work out of their teams. Yeah.

882
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing too, is this is going to

883
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: come a little earlier in training camp too, you know.

884
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: So I think we maybe have like a weak ish

885
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: of training camp and then go to Baltimore and then

886
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: a couple practices there and then that Thursday game against

887
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and then we'll come back here and then

888
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: we'll probably have a few more practices in Irvine before

889
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: that second preseason game against the Raiders that happens. Someone

890
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: else asked me about the late by and I said

891
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: to me, that's kind of where you want it. I

892
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: think it's great, Yeah, because you can you can rest

893
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: up and then gear up for the remainder of the

894
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: season and roll right through it, right right. You have

895
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: the early Thursday night game rams Vikings. It's going to

896
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: kick off the Fox Thursday Nights late. That's gonna be interesting,

897
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be at the Coliseum. It's gonna be

898
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: a cool deal to have that Thursday night game at

899
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: the call Seum, especially if the atmosphere is anything like

900
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: dead Atlanta game, Oh yeah, which was incredible. Firstday night

901
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: in La is basically Friday. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

902
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: that's what they tell me. It's going to be raucus.

903
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. So you have that and then um,

904
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: then you have the Monday night game in Kansas City

905
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: for before the bye and that was the week of Thanksgiving.

906
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Do you realize that, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna

907
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: be the first time I'm going to spend Thanksgiving with

908
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: my family in four years. So it's awesome. Are you

909
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: want to fly to Cleveland? Let's go? Yeah? You think

910
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: the cheese will just let me on their charter back? No?

911
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: Probably not not wearing MS. No, No, you're gonna have

912
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: to like go away and bag or something of that nature.

913
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: But there are there are marquee games on the schedule.

914
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: There are marquee games on the slate. It's gonna be

915
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean you knew that because of the opponents that

916
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: were coming in anyway. Oh yeah. But the fact that

917
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: the Rams got five prime time games, it just it

918
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: speaks to the way this thing is going. I mean,

919
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: your queue writing is going up. And I didn't see

920
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: the entire top one hundred. All I saw was Whitworth

921
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: was eighty seven and maybe Johnny Hecker. Heck Case said

922
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: Hecker is one fifty two in terms of players. Is

923
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: one fifty two? Yes, but he was voted best punter. Yes,

924
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: so so we just don't value punters. Yes, that's fair, okay,

925
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean he's a punter. I love Johnny, But I mean,

926
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: would you put there are there are thousands of players

927
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: in the league try to get to one hundred. I

928
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: just remember football people, that's who I listened to. I

929
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: remember when the Rams went to New England and was

930
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: the only guy Bill Belichick talked about. He talked about.

931
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: He didn't talk about Danny and other people that weren't

932
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: on the Patriots, the Rams or the Patriots. I'm making

933
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: a joke, and I know it's not landing him a weapon.

934
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: That guy is a weapon. He is a weapon. He

935
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: was something that could He was something that can keep

936
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots from victory because of how well

937
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: he could punt. Well, that's what he did to the

938
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: Jets in that particular season. Exact lead of my game

939
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: recap was about a seventy eight yard punta. How far

940
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: it was? Oh yeah, Well, my point is if Johnny

941
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Hecker can't make the top one hundred, the no punter

942
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: ever will. Well, there are very few punters in the

943
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: whole of fame, so it's right, yeah, if that guy

944
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: isn't a part of your top one hundred, that guy,

945
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: there will never be a punter in the top one.

946
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: He is the best punter in the league. I think

947
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: he got overshadowed by the Rams. Having successful offensive drives

948
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: this year whereas to two three years ago. Yeah, he's

949
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: the only thing you're talking about, the best ram day. Ever,

950
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: you probably don't see Hecker. How many times do we

951
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: see Hecker in New York? In that game we were

952
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: just talking about, he was a lot. He was right

953
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: behind me, Yeah, exactly, on the sideline doing nothing, doing nothing. Yeah,

954
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: he held for Greg's oonline and all those extra points,

955
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: that's true, and all the field goals, right, So that

956
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: if that's when you see Johnny Hacker, that's great. I

957
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: do not actually, Okay, why not? Um, because I'm not

958
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: sure list. I think, yes, it's a necessary list that

959
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: is filler off season content, which I understand from a

960
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, a content creator myself. I understand that perspective

961
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: of it. But idea, I just I find him to

962
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: be a necessary list that does it? How much does

963
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: it really mean? I mean, it's just a list. It's

964
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: just to keep people talking, it is. Yeah, um, but

965
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: some guys deserve to be on that list. And I

966
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: don't want to say people that don't deserve to be

967
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: on that list or on that list, but there are

968
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: some guys that are really good, I mean, some great

969
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: football players that just you never hear about or talk about,

970
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: so they won't make those top one hundred lists at all.

971
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: And some of those guys are on this football team, right, yeah, yes,

972
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: one of them plays left guard. One of them also

973
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: plays a five technique. Could Michael Brockers, yes, yeah, he

974
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: could be on that top one. Yeah. Roger Staffold is

975
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: the other person that we're talking about to mention him.

976
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know how they compile those things. But

977
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: they say players vote on it. But you know, people

978
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: you talk to you like, I've never voted. I never,

979
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: which is why like it just I don't know who

980
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: is voting on it. How those things all get talied

981
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: and determined. Well, I don't know how other teams used

982
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: to do it. When we did the Pro Bowl, like

983
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: when we have to vote for Pro Bowlers, we took

984
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: it seriously. We weren't trying to just put our guy in. Yeah,

985
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: some people will vote for Joe Bag of Donuts just

986
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: to make sure their guy gets in. But you know,

987
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: if you're good, we're gonna say you're good. Yeah, that's

988
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: the way it should be. Yes, no, and I agree

989
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: with you, But yeah, Whitworth is there at eighty seven

990
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: that I think it's over the next six or so weeks.

991
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: They then reveal the rest of the top one hundred,

992
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: So I would assume that they're going to be at

993
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: least two players more players on that list from the

994
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: Los Angeles trans probably three. Golf. Yeah, golf would be

995
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: my third the the two beings, so he'll be ahead

996
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: of Whitworth because right right, yeah exactly, but yeah, the

997
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: other two being golfing excuse me, Donald and Gurley m

998
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: and they've I mean, those two are offensive player that

999
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: you're defensive Player of the Year. You would assume that

1000
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: they have to be somewhere in that top twenty five

1001
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: range on that list. Yeah, Baryl Cooper would be one

1002
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: on one. I don't I think I would. I would say,

1003
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, like if we're really doing that, like from

1004
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: special teams ranking, like this is a silly thing to do,

1005
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: but okay, like if Johnny Hacker would be one fifty two,

1006
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: parall Cooper has probably one fifty three, and Greg Zeroline

1007
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: would be one fifty the NFL's leading point scorer, Like

1008
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: you should see this is the problem with top one hundreds,

1009
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: right exactly. We have definitely come to that, of course, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1010
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: you know, but I hope they don't do away with

1011
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: kickoffs altogether. It seems like that's the way the wind

1012
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: is blown, because I mean, that's the game. Yeah, I know. Yeah,

1013
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way I feel about it too.

1014
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: I like the mechanism of leave it up to the

1015
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: receiving team. Interesting, Yeah, leave it up to the receiving team,

1016
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: fair catch it. If you fair catch it, you get

1017
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: the ball at the twenty five, thirty, what have you.

1018
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: But right, I think the kickoff has to remain in

1019
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: the game. If you want to make it safer, great,

1020
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: if you want to make it so that you don't

1021
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: have to return the thing the way it is now,

1022
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: but just make it a little bit easier, give them

1023
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: the incentive not to return it. Yeah, then so be it.

1024
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: But keep the kickoff in the game. I don't care

1025
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: how boring it is for people. Well, that is the game. Yes, No,

1026
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I still think that touchbacks

1027
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: should come to the twenty and at the twenty five.

1028
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: I think we mentioned I remember this podcast, um, but

1029
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: I want to I want to bring this up since

1030
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: you brought the kickoffs from Jenny Brentas she writes for

1031
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: the Monday winning quarterback at Sports Illustrated, but she was

1032
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 1: tweeting this out. She said. As Troy Vincent said yesterday,

1033
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: the NFL plans to make changes to the kickoff for

1034
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, but notate it so special teams coaches around

1035
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: the league collaborated on a proposal to modify and make

1036
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: the play safer by reducing some of the plays space

1037
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: in speeds. So language of the proposed rule change is

1038
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: still being finalized before vote at May meetings, but changes

1039
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: would include no running start for kicking team, no wedge,

1040
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: and only three players deep. You can't wedge now anyway, Yeah,

1041
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: you can't wedge anymore. No running start for a kickoff team. Yeah,

1042
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: so I guess that they would have to be lined

1043
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: up at the thirty five instead of at the thirty

1044
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: and not get the five yards. Okay, that's fair. See

1045
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I like that. But if you eliminate kickoffs altogether, kickoffs

1046
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: and kick returns, I don't recognize the game anymore. Right, Yeah,

1047
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: I think you should keep the game the way it is,

1048
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: but you can make it safer if you want to

1049
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: make those guys line up on the ball and then

1050
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: start running as he kicks it. Fine, yes, that slows

1051
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: everybody down. That will slow down some of those impacts. Great,

1052
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: make that safer, But you just can't do away with it.

1053
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. No, I don't want to see

1054
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: the kickoff done away with. I like the kickoffs as

1055
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: a as a part of the game. I think it

1056
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: is an essential part of the game. Man, I can't.

1057
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: That used to be the fun for me, Miles, I'm serious.

1058
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: All levels, when you're not on kickoff or kick return,

1059
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: oh heck, yeah, yeah, well that's number one. But when

1060
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: you're not on kickoff kick return and you're staring across

1061
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: from the guy you're about to play, Yeah, that to

1062
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: me is fun. When the defensive unit is here and

1063
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: their offensive unit is there. Yeah, I love it. I

1064
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: mean that to me, that that's what it's all about.

1065
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: I just remember being in high school when I played,

1066
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: and it was when you were no longer on the

1067
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: special team's units. That's when you really started to feel like,

1068
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: oh man, I made it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1069
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: did not like kickoff or kickoff return, hey, because I

1070
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: couldn't tackle people. I did do kickoff return a bunch

1071
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: and my sophomore year, it was our second game of

1072
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: the season. And it was the first game we played

1073
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: under the lights. They just put up lights in high school.

1074
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: So they at some point, I think it was just

1075
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: before half time, the opposing team had just scored, so

1076
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: they're kicking off to us and I'm lined up like

1077
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: second player from the outside on the left right and

1078
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm in the front line. So as it always says, look,

1079
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: we've got to watch the ball go over your head,

1080
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: right right, So they decide that they're going to kind

1081
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: of onside kick it. They kicked it right to me,

1082
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: fielded it went back in the womb. Wait until I

1083
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: got touched down. We had the possession. Nice guys like that, right,

1084
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. I'm just saying I know number

1085
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: where you were. I was wearing seventy four rocket right

1086
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: to you. Oh yeah, oh yeah. As they show at

1087
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: that time, probably one kick it right to seventy four. No,

1088
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want it, but I feeled in it anyway,

1089
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: that's right, I take. I like to say, pretty well,

1090
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: you showed them. Absolutely. Yeah, there's that. My first kickoff

1091
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: ever was in the league. Really yes, against New England

1092
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: and shout out to Toby right the hardest hit and

1093
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: say I've ever seen I'm trying as hard as I

1094
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: can to get down there, and I'm with skill guys,

1095
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: so I'm behind. So I saw the play unfold, the

1096
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: guys coming right at me, and it seemed like he

1097
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: just got converged on at the same time high and

1098
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: low and Toby hit him in the face with his

1099
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: helmet and broke his jaws. Oh, right in front of me,

1100
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, within two yards of me. You know what

1101
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought? Right then, I have got to get a

1102
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: sack tonight. I've got to get off kickoff? Did you

1103
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: did you get I'm getting off kickoff? It's dangerous here,

1104
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. Yeah, right in front of me. Oh my god, no,

1105
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I think he was a second round pick too.

1106
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Guy they had high hopes for, and after that hit,

1107
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: he was never the same. Gosh, oh yeah, that the dangerous.

1108
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly you're you're basically speaking to the

1109
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: point of why they want to make that play a

1110
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: little bit safe. Well, that was the old school where

1111
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: you can actually wedge. So sometimes you'd have a fast

1112
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: guy that was like an L one or R one.

1113
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: That's the guy right next to the kicker. Oh, that's

1114
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: not the button on my PlayStation. No no, I mean

1115
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and they let that guy run free right into four guys. Yeah,

1116
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: it's just who wants that job, right, yeah? No way,

1117
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: which his job was wedge buster. That means put your

1118
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: head down and run through four people. Yes, good luck?

1119
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely. I hope you can remember your name by

1120
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: forty Yeah. Yeah, but that guy is actually the announcer

1121
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. Now he's doing quite well. Yeah, well,

1122
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: good run, Wolfley. That's something I'm glad to hear. All right,

1123
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. I do want to

1124
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: mention this because I didn't mention it when we had

1125
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: our draft podcast. We've been talking about a bunch of

1126
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: random things today. I liked this podcast fun. I thought

1127
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: it was fun and like football, Yeah yeah, a bunch

1128
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: of just different topics. I don't know what. Do you

1129
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: think that that's what the offseason is all about? I

1130
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: think so too, well, I mean early May, right, yeah, yeah,

1131
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: this is this is where we are. Hey, the Rams

1132
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: will not be holding a rookie mini camp this year.

1133
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Good? That means no coaching change, right, yeah,

1134
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: yes it does. And not only that, but I think

1135
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: it's a good change because you get so many soft

1136
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: tissue injuries and these things. You remember Dante Fowler a

1137
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Jaguars rookie Man Camp comes in

1138
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: top ten pick Boom, he's out with an ACL injury

1139
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: because they're going too fast, And so I think that's

1140
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: a good change. You're going to try to integrate these

1141
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: rookies as smoothly as possible into the offseason program and

1142
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: then they'll go from there. But I didn't want to

1143
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about going to Coachella because I

1144
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: did that this year. Yeah, how was it? It was

1145
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: really interesting and it was really really really fun. Tell

1146
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: me about it. I don't know, I've never been. It's

1147
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: it's very I don't want to say it's dirty, but

1148
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of dirt. So like you always

1149
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: see pictures of people who are there and they're wearing

1150
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: bandanas like around their nose and mouth, and I feel

1151
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: like I probably should have done this more because it's dusty. Yes,

1152
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: that's that's what dirty. It's it's dusty. It makes sense

1153
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: because it's you're in the desert. But okay, I had

1154
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: a really good time. You know. I was with one

1155
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: of my really good friends from high school and it

1156
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: was kind of a bunch of his friends that he'd

1157
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: been an acapella group with nice but when he was

1158
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: in college. So from that perspective, like, I got to

1159
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: be around people who actually music really well. So we

1160
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: we saw like a bunch of different bands. But it

1161
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: is so tiring, and this is a very first world

1162
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: problem thing. It's tiring. Oh, it's so tiring walking. Yes, okay,

1163
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: you're standing for so many hours, you know. And basically

1164
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: what we did was I got there Thursday night after work.

1165
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: So we were staying at this house because I was

1166
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: not camping, which I'm sure you could have guessed, yes,

1167
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: because his idea of camping is room service, and it is. Yeah. Yeah,

1168
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I was not staying in a tent in a car.

1169
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: Kidding the people who in a zombie apocalypse, he's a zombie.

1170
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: Yeah probably. I mean, I'll try to get a baseball back.

1171
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I'm surviving. Yeah. But it

1172
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: was a really nice house, so at a pool and everything.

1173
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: But what we would do is, you know, you spend

1174
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: the day sort of chilling at the pool. Then you

1175
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: go to Coachella, you do the Coachella thing, and you

1176
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: see a bunch of bands and the artists and whatnot,

1177
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: and then you come back and because it takes like, hey,

1178
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: it takes forever in a day to get out of there,

1179
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: and then you got to kind of wait for your

1180
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: shuttle and by the time you get back to your house,

1181
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: it's like two in the morning, maybe three in the morning.

1182
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: It was almost four in the morning the night Beyonce

1183
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: performed nice. So what we do is we like get

1184
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: in the hot tub and you the pups are barking

1185
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: right hurt. You just soak them. You have another beer,

1186
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: You start talking and then like, yes, okay, I can

1187
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: say beer as long as it's corona. Yeah, I was

1188
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna say I had a corona, and I'm multiple coronas.

1189
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: The coronas were excellent over the course of this weekend,

1190
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: and you know, you chill and then you kind of

1191
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: do the whole thing again. But by the time you

1192
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: got like, Beyonce was as amazing as everybody is saying,

1193
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: she was wow. Like I I've seen Beyonce in concert

1194
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: three times before that now four times, and so I

1195
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: And the other good thing about this schedule is that

1196
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: the Rams are home in week three and Beyonce is

1197
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: performing at the Rose Bowl. Oh jay Z jay Z

1198
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah the night before and I bought tickets to that

1199
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I hope I can attend.

1200
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: We can't leave early. No, I'll be tired. That the

1201
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: name of that tour because I think it's on on

1202
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: the Run again. Okay, all right, Part two Tour on

1203
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: the Run Part two. Nice to be single. He can

1204
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: go anywhere he wants. Yeah, I got in trouble because

1205
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to that. So you didn't

1206
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: want to go to Beyonce, I don't have one. Wow,

1207
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll take her. She can. We'll have a great time.

1208
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: I think the funniest thing you told me was I

1209
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: didn't know this because I love the song Portugal the

1210
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: Man is Actually yeah, it's it's a dude is a man.

1211
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was clever. Also saw Portugal the Man

1212
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: there too, Yeah, I thought it great. They were great. Yeah,

1213
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was clever. I thought that was a lady.

1214
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah that's actually a guy singing that. Okay, what was

1215
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: your like? Who is your favorite act or group? See

1216
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't like a huge name. Yeah, besides Beyonce, who

1217
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: definitely was my favorite. I like Tank in the Bengas.

1218
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: There a group from New Orleans. It's an African American

1219
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: woman and she like, she sort of reminds me. She yeah,

1220
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: like sort of like Sharon Jones and the DAP Kings,

1221
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: um but different. It's sort of hard for me to explain,

1222
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: but I really yeah a little okay, because Tank is

1223
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: reserved for short. Yeah, look like tanks. Yeah okay, No,

1224
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: but she could she could really sing. Her band behind

1225
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: her was really really excellent awesome, So I really liked her. Um.

1226
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: I saw Miguel and I didn't realize I didn't know

1227
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: any mcguel songs, but I knew zero of the songs superformed.

1228
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed his before he could sing, Yes, yeah,

1229
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: he could really really sing. He was on his way

1230
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: up until he jumped over and kicked the fan by accident. Yeah,

1231
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: and that kind of derailed him. Yeah, yeah, he was

1232
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: on his way up. That was a problem. I really

1233
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: liked Cardi B. I think Cardi B is delightful. Oh

1234
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: her in a little bit, maybe, yeah, she just I

1235
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: think she's so fun. Is she like really tiny? Yeah

1236
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: that's what I thought. Okay, And we weren't that close

1237
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: for her because she was on the main stage. Yeah,

1238
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: but I I just I think she's so fun that

1239
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: boadak Yellow everywhere we went when that played in the stadium,

1240
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: both teams, we're getting down to it. Yeah, every I

1241
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: mean everybody, top to bottom. I don't dance now, I

1242
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: make money move number one song I can see You

1243
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: and I don't speak. That means I don't bleep with

1244
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: you like it is my favorite line. I love that, Yes,

1245
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: sir um what who else did we see? Portugal? The

1246
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: Man was good. I liked the Weekend. Everybody else in

1247
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: our group besides me and my friend wanted to see

1248
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Jamir Quai. Yeah, they're like a like, I like the Weekend. Man,

1249
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: you have to choose, yeah, because they were all at

1250
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: the same time, because I would have liked to have

1251
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: seen Jamir Quay too. But I'm like, I mean the Weekends,

1252
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Speaker 1: the headliner, how do you play them both at the

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Speaker 1: same time. That's think there's like six or seven, maybe

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 1: eight different stages and there's acts going at the same time. Yeah,

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: all day. This is that big yeah, where the music

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01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: doesn't just sometimes it kind of does. It crosses over, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but if you're on the main stage and like, I

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: don't know they're they're different things. But no one's performing

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: when is pretty much though. Okay, so somebody actually was

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: performing when I think there's like maybe at the end

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Speaker 1: of their performance, when Beyonce was starting, how do you

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: get that draw you're going to perform on stage? Yeah,

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: good luck with that. Yeah, invite your parents? Yeah right, exactly,

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Speaker 1: that's the only two people are going to be in

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Speaker 1: the audience. Yeah, you gotta be you gotta be some

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of hipster to be like, you know, I'm not

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01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna watch Beyonce. I'm gonna go to this spend Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: It depends on what the other options are. Okay, I mean,

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01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: really you wouldn't go see Beyonce. I'm just it depends

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Speaker 1: on what the other options are. I'll say, this man

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01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: getting one hundred one hundred, like a member band and

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Speaker 1: dancers and everything on and off the stage. The way

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Speaker 1: that she was doing it in that performance, it was

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01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: it was mind wildling. Wow. I mean the horns that

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: came in when they started playing Crazy in Love and

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: like you have basically a marching band that is on stage,

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: it was it was a little over. Yeah she did,

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01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah she did. I mean basically it was by the

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Speaker 1: time Eminem performed Sunday night, and they do things a

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01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: little earlier on Sunday so you can kind of get

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Speaker 1: out of there. But by the time Eminem started performing,

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: I was looking around and everybody else like, can we

1283
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: go tired? Oh? Yeah? I did he do? Is like

1284
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: old stuff? Or is it just like post sobriety? You

1285
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: know it's it's a really good question. Okay, wow, I'll

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'll tell you what I saw that

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Speaker 1: he did. Um he brought out fifty cent and did

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Speaker 1: in the club oh night. So I felt like I

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Speaker 1: saw the most important part of that performance. That was

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Speaker 1: the most important part to me. It was you're not

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: a fan of Eminem, are you? I said that I'm

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Speaker 1: not a fan? Is that like if he had been,

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01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: if it'd have been the weekend, I probably would have

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: been like, I really want to see this. Oh. But

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01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: at that point, like I said, it's so tiring, and

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: you're out there for so long. It's just kind of

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01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: making my feet hurt. Right now, you're making my feet

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Speaker 1: I know there's nowhere to sit. You guys did bring

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: him like a blanket? Well? Because can you bring like chairs?

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01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: You can't. I don't think you can bring chairs, but

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01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: you can bring like a blanket and stuff. But like

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01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: if you're waiting for Beyonce, for instance, we wanted to

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: be relatively close and so basically we had to go

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: at the end. I don't know. I don't even remember

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: who was performing there, but we were at the main

1306
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: stage for Tiger Tyler the Creator, who is one of

1307
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: my favorites. He's he's really angry and like, yeah, I'm

1308
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: worried about him. But like I tried to talk to

1309
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: him about him a few years ago, Like you've got

1310
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: to listen to like his stuff in a certain order

1311
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: and you'll figure it out. I mean I felt like

1312
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: watching his performance, I figured it out, and like he

1313
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he needs to talk to a professional.

1314
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who who he's upset with. That's what

1315
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't get about Tyler the Creator. I don't know

1316
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: who you're mad at. Is it just life period? He

1317
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: just says he like he wilds out at his shows

1318
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: and he likes to have a good time. He's not

1319
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: he's not angry. He just he's just having fun with

1320
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: his friends. Like it's skaters, dude, Like they just they

1321
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: okay Rex stuff and maybe he's not angry, but he

1322
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: seems ang and anger comes from they're angry at authority. Yeah,

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01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: I get that. Well, when I hear Tyler, I'm like,

1324
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: who am I mad at? Just being born? And yet

1325
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a lot of times, I mean, like what

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01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: it started with, like people trying to label him and stuff,

1327
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: and he's like, you can't label me, like I'm just

1328
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm me. I'm not gonna fit into any of these genres. Fair, Yeah,

1329
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: and identified with that. Yeah, it was certainly an interesting

1330
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: performance and a lot of it. I mean, you know,

1331
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: growing up without knowing who his father is, and you

1332
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: know he's got a lot of it's just him and

1333
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: his mom, so he just maybe that's it. Okay, Yeah,

1334
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: that sounds like personal. Yes, yeah, Okay, at least him

1335
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: told me who he was mad at. Yeah, my mom

1336
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: is well and Kim. There are songs. He's got a

1337
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: song named Kim and a song named my Mom. So

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01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's pretty out there. Yeah. Yes, right, I'll

1339
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: try Tyler, I'll go from the beginning. Yeah, we'll talk later, okay. Yes,

1340
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, we saw them as we we got to

1341
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: wrap this up because we're starting to now we can

1342
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: keep talking. We can go as long as we want.

1343
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: We can. Yeah, I mean, but I'm gonna be respected.

1344
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: This is probably going to be a shorter podcast. Direct

1345
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: quote from Miles thirty minutes before we started the show. Yet,

1346
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know that's fine. I really enjoyed this podcast.

1347
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: I like talking about just different things with you guys.

1348
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: I have a lot of fun doing it. Um. But anyway,

1349
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: so we saw Tyler the Creator. Then we like moved

1350
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: up a little bit at the main stage. Then there

1351
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: was a DJ and I can't remember who it was,

1352
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: and then we moved up a little bit more and

1353
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: then there was this group Hame and they're like three

1354
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: sisters who are from the San Fernando Valley, so like

1355
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: they're kind of my homegirls. They were talking about Ventura

1356
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: Boulevard and I'm like, oh, I live by there, so

1357
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: i know what you're talking about. Um, And they played.

1358
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: But the reaction from the crowd was so interesting. One

1359
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: of the guys I was with was like, at one

1360
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: point I saw somebody who was clearly just waiting for

1361
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: a Beyonce and they showed her on like the big

1362
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: screen or whatever, and she just like had fist against

1363
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: her face, just leaning down like man, like you've never

1364
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: seen that meme with a guy and he's just like

1365
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: tapping his fingers and it's like, I'm not really enjoying this.

1366
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Speaker 1: I would just like Beyonce to start pleasing yes and that,

1367
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: Like I sort of felt bad for him because of that. Like,

1368
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Speaker 1: they clearly had a lot of fans out of the stage, right,

1369
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: but they were not there for you. And then finally

1370
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Speaker 1: we got to see Beyonce and there was a guy who,

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Speaker 1: like I was, we were really pretty packed in like

1372
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Speaker 1: stardines and everybody like we stood there basically for an hour.

1373
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't sit. People around me started sitting, and then

1374
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: like I was like in I don't know, an eight

1375
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: by eleven foot piece of paper basically for my feet

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01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: to stand, which was a little uncomfortable. So that's why

1377
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: your feet hurt even more. But then there was this guy.

1378
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: He comes up right before the concert. Beyonce is like

1379
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: about to start, so she was supposed to come on

1380
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: to a loven oh five. She was a little bit late,

1381
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: but it was on eleven ten and he starts walking

1382
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: through and he's got his phone in his hand and

1383
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I'm looking for people, and then there's

1384
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: another woman who wasn't with us, but she was like,

1385
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: oh this person, oh, she like put out a couple

1386
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: names and they were wrong. But she's like, oh no,

1387
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: her name is Blah. And he's like, oh no, I

1388
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: saw her. She went that way, back that way. And

1389
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: then he's like oh. And then so he stopped like right.

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 1: There were a couple of women in front of me

1391
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: were a little bit shorter than I am. I'm six

1392
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: feet so I can kind of see. So he stops

1393
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,759
Speaker 1: right in front of them, and I was like, dude,

1394
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: you need to move, move, move, and he was like, oh,

1395
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking. And then he said something about

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: I can stand like in front of you since they're shorter,

1397
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, I do not care how tall

1398
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: you are, and I said something worse than that that

1399
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going to repeat on this podcast. Yeah I did,

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01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: and then I basically kept telling him to move, and

1401
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: he finally moved good, and then the two ladies were

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01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: like thank you, like I appreciate it all right, Yeah,

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01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like we've been standing here for hours. I'm

1404
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: not just gonna let somebody come in here and Ruin

1405
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: cut the line. That's why they invented the bums rush, right, yeah, exactly,

1406
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: all right? Any parting shots before we leave? Yeah? Um, um,

1407
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: well I can't. Well I guess I could. Um what well,

1408
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: I told you us, but half the night, stayed up

1409
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: half the night deleting everything related to Kanye West. Oh yeah,

1410
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: and I'm very comfortable with that. Yep. That's my parting shot,

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01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I think that's good enough for me. Yes,

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: and I should probably go do the same exact thing.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: All right. Everybody, thank you for turning in to this

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: episode of Between the Warns. If you stayed with us

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: for this long, we really appreciate it, and we always

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01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming and listening to our show and interacting

1417
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: with us on Twitter and everything. I'm I'm getting there

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: in the show. I know. You can check out all

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: our draft coverage on the rams dot com for our

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: producer Matt for DeMarco far Miles Simmons. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. What was that ye