1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Out number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. As we 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: get ready for the primaries, Vivik Ramaswami is going viral 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: for shirtless tennis. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: There is a large reaction as Vivek Ramaswami has posted 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: three hours of solid debate prep this morning and it 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: is a video of him playing tennis shirtless. So he 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: and RFK Junior may end up engaging in a push 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: up contest to decide who the next president of the 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: United States is. And I'm gonna be honest with you, 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that that would be a disaster because 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: I at least then we know Biden would be out 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: of office. And if you had Vivek versus RFK Junior, 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: I think you'd probably have to give RFK Junior a 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: little bit. 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Of a benefit. 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he's I think sixty nine and Vivek is 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: thirty eight, So thirty one year advantage for the veke 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: on the push up contest would be really too much. 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: So you'd have to set up some sort of parameters here. 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: Sixty nine year old guy versus thirty eight year old 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: guy got to have some sort of different parameter in play. 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: But there are a lot of beefcakes out there all 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: of a sudden in the political space. I don't know 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: how many of you saw on Fox News, how many 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: of you saw shirtless Will Caine and shirtless Pete Heggseth 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: on I think it was Saturday Morning. I bet that's 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: the most ripped duo to ever host a news program 31 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: in the history of news television. 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Will Caine and Pete Hegseth. 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: All right, Charlie Arnold, who works with us at OutKick, 34 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: interviewed them. And I saw that Charlie interview. Charlie's really 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: good looking. I don't know that she's ever interviewed two 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: people who are better looking than her in her entire 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: professional career. But I thought with Will Kine and with 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth hirtless, Charlie was third place for most attractive 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: in the television shot. 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Now, she worked at the WWE and in the UFC, 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: so she may have an answer and say, actually, I've 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: interviewed two better looking people before. This reminds me of 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: when I did television back in the back in the 45 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: day with Well, I still do with Fox Sports. But 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: one time they put me in between Brady Quinn and 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: Matt Liiner, and I thought to myself, this is really 48 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: unfair for me. We were all we were doing a 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: college football show. Brady Quinn looks like he looks like 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: he is Superman. He looks like Clark Kent. I mean, 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: the guy has like zero percent body fat. He's incredibly 52 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: good looking. First round NFL draft quarterback went to Notre Dame, 53 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: you know, six ' four, two fifty totally ripped, and 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: then Liner might be even better looking than Brady Quinn. 55 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: USC quarterback wins the Heisman Trophy. First round draft pick. 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Every good looking girl for like twenty years wanted to 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: date Matt Liner, super famous, and they put me between them, 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, this is really I mean, 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm getting set up here. What it 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: Rush used to say he didn't like doing television, because 61 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: it is true. When I started doing television, all people 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: react to is what you're wearing. It's all cosmetic, what 63 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: your hair looks like. They almost never talk about what 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: you say. I couldn't believe how much of it was cosmetic. 65 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Go on you make an argument, you think it's really detailed, 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: really fabulous, and then you go get on social media 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: and when off people react to I don't know why 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: you wore that tie, Why didn't you wear a tie? 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: Why don't you have a belt on today? Why do 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: your shoes not match your belt? Why did you wear 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: a jacket, Why did you not wear a jacket. Why 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: did you comb your hair that way? Why didn't you 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: comb your hair the other way? Why did you get 74 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: a haircut, Why did you put your earpiece in that 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: a ear why did you turn to your right instead 76 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: of turning to your left, None of it having to 77 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 2: do at all with anything that you say. 78 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: It really is amazing. 79 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: That's why I also say people out there media, they say, 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 2: how you know you writing? 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Re you do writing? Obviously, the book's out. 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: Thank you, by the way for making American Playbook the 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: number one best selling nonfiction book in America. Publishers Weekly 84 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: put it out number one nonfiction book last week in America. 85 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal had to set number two in the 86 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: bestseller list. New York Times didn't put us in the 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: top fifteen. We outsold every nonfiction book in the New 88 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: York Times Top fifteen by five thousand books. Just amazing, 89 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 2: But thank you for that. But writing writing is the 90 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: hardest thing to do. Radio is the second hardest thing 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: to do. Television's the easiest. And I always say there's 92 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: a reason why you never see a television person go 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: to radio and then go to writing. Now, sometimes TV 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: people have ghostwriters write their books, but by and large, 95 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,799 Speaker 2: you see a lot of people who can do writing 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: to radio to TV because writings the foundation of everything. 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: You make an argument, you sit down in front of 98 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 2: a blank computer screen, nobody else is there to help you. 99 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: Radio more people help you, but it's still three hours 100 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: a long time. 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: To talk. 102 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: Television you sit down for three or four minutes and 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: they tell you that was amazing. And a lot of 104 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: times you sit down for three or four minutes and 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: sometimes you just read off of a glass screen in 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: front of you. You don't even have to come up 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: with what you're saying. And there's a huge entourage of 108 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: people trying to make you look like you're smarter than 109 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: you are. It's incredible. And so when you look at 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: the way that this trajectory is going, and I see 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: vevag Ramaswami putting up a video of himself shirtless hitting 112 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: tennis balls, and I see RFK Junior doing pushups and 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: everybody goes crazy with it. I just sit back and 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: I think, man, the cosmetic aspects of this debate on 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday are going to be interesting because we've got a 116 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: couple of big data points that are out there. And 117 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: Ali tells me that the cosmetic is why Rush just 118 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: basically said I'm not going to do TV anymore. 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: And I get it. I totally get it. 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: Because if you're in the position of making arguments and 121 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: all people do is react to what you look like 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: instead of the arguments that you make, I get why 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: that gets so supremely frustrating. As we're talking about the 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: inbate on Wednesday, the television dynamic and the way that 125 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: it has altered everything in our politics is still, I 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: think under discussed, because remember the perfect example of this 127 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: was JFK Junior, Sorry JFK versus Richard Nixon. Everybody who 128 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: listened on radio, by and large thought Nixon one. Everybody 129 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 2: who watched on television thought JFK one. Well, it wasn't 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: that JFK's arguments were better, because radio is certainly a 131 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: better medium to dissect arguments. Audio works far better. I 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: think the written word is the best of all, which 133 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: is why I get almost. 134 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: All of my news. 135 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: If you're watching me right now speaking of video with 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck vip as many of you are, like, 137 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here with legitimate newspapers or raid in front 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: of me, and I started off the show today talking 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: about an article dissecting an article. I think the best 140 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: way to logically analyze issues is still by reading. I 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: think listening to audio is the second best. I think 142 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: television is the worst. Television is the most popular and 143 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: the most people who do it, And as scary as 144 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: you might think television is now, at least there are 145 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: still long form discussions on television to break down issues 146 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: such as the debate that's going to happen on Wednesday. 147 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: Your kids and grandkids are watching thirty second TikTok videos 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: which have absolutely no context at all, and that will 149 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: be I think we're going to move from just video 150 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: deciding elections. I think we're going to move to video 151 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: clips totally out of context deciding elections, and that gets 152 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: even scarier to me. But a couple of polls that 153 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: are out, and then I want to talk about Bill 154 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: Clinton screwing an intern as opposed to the whole country, 155 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: like Joe Biden's going to do a little bit later 156 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: in the hour. But a couple of polls that are 157 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: out that I think are significant, and I want to 158 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: hit you with these. 159 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Iowa poll. 160 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: This is the Iowa poll from Jay and Seltzer from 161 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Des Moines. 162 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: She is evidently the. 163 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: Greatest polster in the history of the state of Iowa, 164 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: which some of you are gonna laugh, like that's kind 165 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: of a big deal because the Iowa caucus is so 166 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: difficult to predict, and Iowa historically was a battleground state. 167 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Not anymore. 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: It's gone fully read because people of Iowa have not 169 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: lost their minds Democrats have. Which one of the following 170 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Republicans will be your first choice? 171 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: Here? 172 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: This number out today. Trump got forty two percent of 173 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: the support in this Iowa caucus now poll, Fifty eight 174 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: percent of people in Iowa are supporting somebody else, nineteen 175 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: percent for Ron DeSantis, nine percent for Tim Scott, six 176 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: percent for Nikki Hayley, six percent for Mike Pence, five 177 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: percent for Chris Christy, only four percent support for vivek 178 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: Ramaswami Doug Bergham two percent, will heard one percent. That 179 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: is the Iowa caucus poll that has come out today 180 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: from the Des Moines Register. Jay and Seltzer is who 181 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 2: is responsible for that? What does that tell us? Well, 182 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: it tells us what we thought already that Trump is 183 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: a prohibitive favorite. But is there someone lurking that could 184 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: come and steal Trump's victory in Iowa? Remember Trump only 185 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: got twenty four percent of the Iowa caucus vote in 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and I think a lot of people have 187 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:54,479 Speaker 2: forgotten about that. Uh, the final caucus poll, the results 188 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: in Iowa in twenty fifteen, Ted Cruz won Iowa twenty sixty. 189 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: January of twenty sixteen. 190 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz ended up with twenty eight percent in Iowa, 191 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: Trump with twenty four percent. People forget this, Rubio almost 192 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: caught Trump and then Ben Carson was at nine percent. 193 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Why do I bring that up? 194 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: Just three months before the actual caucus ben Carson was 195 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: at twenty eight percent. So in November of twenty fifteen, 196 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Ben Carson had a big lead in the reliable polls, 197 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: Trump was in second place, Cruz was in third. Cruz 198 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: surged into a January win. Trump was up a little bit, 199 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: Rubio was up a decent amount and Carson plummeted. So 200 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: what does that tell us about where we might go? 201 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: And what did you all think about the decision being 202 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: made by Trump to effectively say he doesn't need to 203 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: debate at all. Right, decision, wrong decision from Trump. We'll 204 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: take some of your calls on it. Eight hundred and 205 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: two eight two two eight a two uh, And we'll 206 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: continue to discuss this poll and also the fact that 207 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: we have the debate on Wednesday. We're going to be 208 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: in Milwaukee for that debate. What do we expect to 209 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: see on Wednesday and what do you need to see 210 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: from the different contestants to contenders in this primary season 211 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: to see what might transpire going forward. We'll continue to 212 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: break that down for you. In the meantime, I want 213 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: to tell you planning an idea for this fall. There'll 214 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: be a time when the weather gets cold, families indoors, 215 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: and it's a good time to get ready and rediscover 216 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: some old family movies. 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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 244 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: We back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 245 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling 246 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: through a couple of days in advance of the Republican 247 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: debate in Milwaukee, and I was just sharing with you 248 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: the numbers that are coming out in terms of the 249 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: des Moines register and what they expect. I think you 250 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: can also start to think about what to expect from 251 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: the debate itself. Trump's not going to be there. I 252 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: would imagine there will be a decent amount of questions 253 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: surrounding Trump. But I also think there will be a 254 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: possibility because of the bitterness incarnate between Fox News and 255 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Donald Trump now and you can toss in Tucker Carlson there, 256 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: I think there will be an attempt to elevate the 257 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: people who are willing to. 258 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Actually go to the debate. 259 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: So who's going to emerge on Wednesday night at the 260 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: end of that two hour debate And many of you 261 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: out there listening to me right now, are going to 262 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: look around and say, hey, you know what, I'm interested 263 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: in this candidate because remember, fifty percent of you are 264 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: pretty much Trump, your locked in. Trump is your guy 265 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: right now, and fifty percent of you are committed to 266 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: other candidates and so far, I said on Friday show. 267 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: And I'll break this down in a little bit greater detail, 268 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: but to me, there are essentially five candidates that are 269 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: still alive. And I'll admit that somebody could come out 270 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: of nowhere, but to me, there is a clear power 271 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: five in the Republican primary right now, and we're sitting 272 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty is day away from the caucus 273 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: voting starting in Iowa. But Trump has established the biggest 274 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: lead in Donald Trump's career. And I told Trump this 275 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: on Friday when I saw him Thursday, when I saw 276 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: him in Nashville, I said, I never would have believed 277 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: that you would have the lead that you do right now. 278 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: And it's important let's start with Trump and the lead 279 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: that he has opened. Trump right now is in a 280 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: stronger position politically than he has ever been in in 281 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: his entire political career, based on what the polls show. 282 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: That is from the moment Trump came down the escalator 283 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, to the moment that I am speaking 284 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: to you right now. Donald Trump's star has never been 285 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: more ascendant politically than it is right now. Some of 286 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: you are shaking your heads. You're saying, Clay, You're crazy. 287 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: Think about this. 288 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: Trump struggled for a long time to get above thirty 289 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: percent in twenty fifteen. I just shared with you the 290 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: results from Iowa in twenty sixteen. In early January, Trump 291 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: only got twenty four percent of the Iowa caucus vote. 292 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: Right now, he's roughly at fifty percent. That's twice what 293 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: he ever got in twenty sixteen in the Iowa caucus. 294 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: Trump was never ahead of Hillary Clinton in any of 295 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: the polls in the twenty sixteen election. By and large, 296 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Trump's ahead of Joe Biden in a lot of polls 297 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: right now. Trump was never ahead of Joe Biden in 298 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: any of the polls in twenty twenty. Trump, like I said, 299 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: is ahead of Joe Biden right now in many of 300 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four polls. So the question that is 301 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: out there is what, if anything, can any of these 302 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 2: contenders do without Trump on the stage, And who is 303 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: in a position to potentially challenge Trump. I think there 304 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: are four candidates that are still in the mix. I 305 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: think we've narrowed this race down to five. 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And some of 327 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: you may be saying, Okay, walk me through that, Clay, 328 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: and I'll explain clearly, Joe Biden, as dementia, is physically 329 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: and mentally incapable of being president of the United States 330 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: right now. Just look at his response to Hawaii, which 331 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about some in the third hour. 332 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: And will Kine is going to join us tomorrow, who 333 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: did such a good job bringing us that story from Hawaii. 334 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: But Biden's not going to debate RFK Junior because I 335 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: think RFK Junior and Mary Ann Williamson would smoke him on. 336 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: The debate stage. 337 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: And that's not because our FK Junior, who you guys 338 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: have heard on this show. Clearly, RFK Junior has a 339 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: difficulty speaking. He has a condition. So it's not as 340 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: if RFK Junior is able to be the most eloquent 341 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: voice of his generation because he has a challenge himself speaking. 342 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: It's because still. 343 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: RFK Junior would have the power of ideas and facts 344 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: on his side, and he would smoke Joe Biden, who 345 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: is a shadow. Biden is of the candidate that he 346 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: used to be twenty years ago. There are all different 347 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: ways that people age. Joe Biden is an old eighty. 348 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: There are some eighty year olds out there. I mean, look, 349 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: Warren Buffett is what ninety two? I think Warren Buffett 350 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: is ninety two, and he's still one of the sharpest 351 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: of all of the minds out there in all of finance. 352 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: And Charlie Munger, I believe is almost one hundred. And 353 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Munger's brain is still incredible when it comes to 354 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: analyzing it information and data. So it's not directly related 355 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: to age, because there are many people out there who 356 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 2: are incredibly sharp at eighty years old, probably not as 357 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: sharp as they were at forty or fifty, but still 358 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: very very sharp. 359 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: Biden would get shown up. They don't want to put 360 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: him on the debate stage with anybody. 361 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: I think that Biden will use this is my concern, 362 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: and this is what I would say to the Trump team. 363 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: I think that Biden will use Trump not showing up 364 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: to debate in any of the RNC debates as evidence 365 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: of why he doesn't need to show up and debate 366 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: Trump for the presidency. Now, yes, they're different. One is 367 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: a primary, the other is a general election. I understand it, 368 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: but I think Biden will say, well, Trump didn't show 369 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: up to debate to win the Republican nomination. We've already debated. 370 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: We did it four years ago. Nothing's change changed. The 371 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: only thing that's changed is Trump is now under indictment 372 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: for ninety some odd different felonies. I don't want to 373 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: platform him and allow him to spread more lies about 374 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: our democracy. I would not be surprised at all if 375 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: that is the argument that Biden puts forward. And so 376 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: if Trump shows up for even some of the debates, 377 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: then I think that argument becomes more difficult for Joe 378 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Biden to make, just an idea to put out there. 379 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Now. 380 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 2: I said, Trump has a more commanding position right now 381 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: when you look at the data, when you look at 382 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: the polling, than he ever has at any point in 383 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: his political career. I really believe that how does that 384 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: translate in the general election. Well, we'll have potentially over 385 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: a year to discuss it. Basically, if Trump ends up 386 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: being the nominee and it's over a year from now 387 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: when the election actually starts, nobody can render any sort 388 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: of opinion until January. I do think it's ridiculous for 389 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: everyone to be talking about whether this race is completely 390 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: over or not, even though if I were betting, I 391 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: would give Trump probably seventy five or eighty percent chance 392 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: to be the nominee. Who are the people that could 393 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: beat Trump and what would they need to do on 394 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: Monday in order to get past Trump. I think there's 395 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: only four people now that can beat Trump. And you guys, 396 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: by the way, can weigh in and disagree with me 397 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: if you disagree with my four challengers that are alive 398 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: at this point in time eight hundred and two A 399 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: two two eight A two. Trump is clearly number one. 400 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: I just said I would give him a seventy five 401 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: or eighty percent chance of winning the nomination, so he 402 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: is a substantial favorite. Second place. I still have DeSantis 403 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: third place, the veak Ramaswami fourth place, Scott fifth place, 404 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: Chris Christy. I think everybody else should drop out of 405 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: this race. I understand if you are a big believer 406 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: in Mike Pence, I think he has a zero percent 407 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: chance of being the nominee. I understand if you are 408 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: a big supporter of Nikki Haley, I think she has 409 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: a zero percent. 410 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: Chance of being the nominee. 411 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: If you are a big supporter of Larry Elder or 412 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: Doug Bergham or Will Hurd or anybody else that's running 413 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: for President Suarez down in Miami. I think all of 414 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: them have zero percent chances to be the nominee, and 415 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: I think they should all drop out if their goal 416 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: is actually to win the nomination, because I think they've 417 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: been able to run for months and I don't see 418 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: any pathway by which they end up the nominee. I 419 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: think there are five guys and they happen to all 420 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: be guys that have a pathway to be the nominee. 421 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: This is my opinion, my five. I think we've cut 422 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: it to five. Trump, DeSantis, Thevey Gromise, Tim Scott, and 423 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: Chris Christy. Those are the five now. Certainly Trump far 424 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: and away is the favorite. Chris CHRISTI in the fifth spot, 425 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: very slow probability of winning. But I can see a 426 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: pathway for Chris Christy. I really can't. He could end 427 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: up winning in New Hampshire. That could catapult Tim forward. 428 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: Have to be a big catapult. I think even Chris 429 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: Christy would laugh at that joke. 430 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: But there is a pathway. You have to be able, 431 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: and this is my analysis. 432 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: You have to be able to win one of the 433 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: first four primaries in order to have a chance to 434 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: be the nominee Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina or Nevada. 435 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: People might say, what about Nicki Haley. Tim Scott has 436 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: been and is running a more successful campaign than Nicky 437 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: Haley is. Tim Scott is more likely to win South 438 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Carea than Nicki Haley is. I don't believe that Nicki 439 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 2: Haley can get into. 440 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: The top five. 441 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: I just said Chris Christy. I can see a pathway 442 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: through which he wins New Hampshire. 443 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: In Iowa. 444 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: I can see Desantus winning. I could see, even though 445 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: he's way down in this poll. The veeg Gramaswami winning 446 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: one of these early nominating contests. And certainly the most 447 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: likely outcome right now is that Trump would win in Iowa, 448 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, in South Carolina, and in Nevada and this 449 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 2: thing would be over by March one. All of that 450 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: could happen, But there's only five people alive right now now. 451 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: To be fair, on Wednesday, I'll come back and I 452 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: will tell you I watched the debate. 453 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Did anything change? 454 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: Maybe Nicki Haley is going to have the greatest debate 455 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: performance in the history of the Republican primary. And I'll 456 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: come back and I'll say, Okay, NICKI Haley's still in 457 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: the mix. I don't think it's going to happen. Maybe 458 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: Doug Bergham is going to come out and some of 459 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: you are actually going to be able to know who 460 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: Doug Burgham is, because I think ninety nine percent of 461 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: you could not pick Doug Bergham out of a lineup 462 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: right now. If I said, hey, the North Dakota governor 463 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: is one of these five people, and I just put 464 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: up five random, middle aged white guys in decent shape, 465 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: and I said you have to pick Doug Bergham, I 466 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: think the vast majority of you could not pick Doug Bergham. 467 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: It's no slide on Doug Bergham, super successful. I just 468 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: don't see any pathway for him to be the President 469 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: of the United States. The nominee for Republicans in twenty 470 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: twenty four Larry Elder, I like him, super talented radio guy. Nobody, 471 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 2: no chance Mike Pence. You guys heard me go at 472 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: it with Mike Pence. I think Mike Pence has a 473 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: zero percent chance of being the nominee. And my position 474 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: is if you have a z zer zho percent chance 475 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: of being the nominee. It's time for you to drop 476 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: out and endorse somebody else. And I think there's only 477 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: five guys now that have a chance to be nominee. 478 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 2: Sitting here five months out. I don't see anybody else now. 479 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: Grab this transcript. Flag it. You can react to that. 480 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: You can tell me why I'm wrong. Eight hundred and 481 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 2: two eight two two eight eight two. We haven't taken 482 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: any calls yet. If you disagree with my power rankings 483 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: and you think somebody outside of those five, remember you 484 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 2: have to be able to win one of those first 485 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: four primaries. 486 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: That's the way I'm assessing this. 487 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: If you can't win in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, 488 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: or Nevada at least one of them, I think you 489 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: have a zero percent chance to be the nominee for 490 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Republicans going forward, because you're not going to go oh 491 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: for four in those first four primaries and in the 492 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: caucus in Iowa and then suddenly in March you're going 493 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: to catch fire and start winning it. I just don't 494 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: think that's going to happen. I think that's a zero 495 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: percent probability event you have to be able to win 496 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: one of the first four. Those are the five who 497 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: can Trump DeSantis, Ramaswami, Scott, and Chris Christi eight hundred 498 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: two eight two two eight eight two. What do those 499 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: guys need to do to make the case that they're 500 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: the foremost contender with Trump? And how quickly can all 501 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: of that happen. That's the real major issue associated with 502 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: going forward is how does all of that shake itself out? 503 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: But that is still to be determined. I am very 504 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: confident that my five is the five that is still 505 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: alive to potentially end up being the next nominee to 506 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: take on Joe Biden or someone else in the event 507 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: that it's actually going to be Joe Biden, and I 508 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: still have very consequential concerns about whether it's going to 509 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: be Joe Biden. I still don't think it's going to 510 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: be Biden Buck and I have a bet now Biden's 511 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: starting to run ads everything else, he's going to have 512 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: to drop out before the end of the year, in 513 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: my opinion, probably by December one or thereabouts, if we're 514 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: going to not find out that he's not going to 515 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: be the nominee in twenty four. In the meantime total 516 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: of the Towers Foundation let Us Do Good Village in landa Lakes, 517 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: Florida community that will have about one hundred homes for 518 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: the Foundation's program participants when constructions complete. 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That's t 534 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: the number two T dot org. 535 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: You don't know what you don't know right, but you could. 536 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast. 537 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: Having again Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. By the way, 538 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 2: texting with Buck, who is in Scotland for the week, 539 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: he says that Scotland is fantastic. 540 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 541 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: And this is also the busiest week in Edinburgh all year. 542 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: The streets of downtown to Edinburgh are a madhouse. That 543 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: is where he and Carrie are right now. He will 544 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: be back with me on Monday, but he and Carrie 545 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: are enjoying a much deserved vacation. I'm gonna get to 546 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: a bunch of your calls. By the way, one of 547 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: the fun things about Buck and I being able to 548 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: do the show together is I think I'm correct. 549 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: In this alley. You guys can correct me if I'm wrong. 550 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: One or the other of us is on every week 551 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: of the year except for Christmas week, which I don't 552 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: think exists for any other live radio show anywhere in 553 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: the country that you would be able to hear either 554 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: Buck or me every week of the year except for 555 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: Christmas when both of us with our families like many 556 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: of you, are out so and we have guest hosts then, 557 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: so you have a live show to be able to hear. 558 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: But I don't think anywhere anywhere in radio do you 559 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: get fifty one weeks a year. Sometimes I'm going to 560 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: be out with my family. Sometimes Buck is going to 561 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: be out with his family. But fifty one weeks of 562 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: the year, one or the other of us will be 563 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 2: talking to you, which is pretty fantastic. A lot of 564 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 2: you want to weigh in. First time we've taken calls 565 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: so far today, Carl in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 566 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: You think Trump's right to skip the debates. 567 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he should skip the debate. He doesn't need 568 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: to give these people, you know, any momentum, you know, 569 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: living off his coattails. 570 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: I think you know, you mean all of the debates. 571 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: Let's say it gets down to three or four real contenders. 572 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: You think it makes sense for Trump to debate then, 573 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: or you mean all debates? No matter what, There's no 574 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: point in Trump ever being on the stage with any 575 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: other Republican contender, right. 576 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: Because it's Trump or bust. I mean most of us. 577 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: If Trump isn't on that ticket, we're not even going 578 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 3: to vote. We don't. This is the last election of 579 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: my opinion, This is all right. 580 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand. 581 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me just cut you off there, Carl, 582 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: you're telling me, if Vivey Ramaswami is the nominee, or 583 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Tim Scott is the nominee, or Ron DeSantis is the nominee, 584 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: that you would not show up and vote to cast 585 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: a vote against Joe Biden or whomever the Democrats put 586 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: up if Trump's not on the ticket, do we lose? 587 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: Carl? 588 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: What? No? No, you didn't lose me. 589 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 2: So you're telling me you wouldn't show up if Trump 590 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: weren't on the on the ticket. 591 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 3: Uh, I don't think anyone else can win except Trump. 592 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: He expanded the Republican base. You know, he got seven. 593 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: I understand the proch trust me. I understand the pro 594 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 2: Trump argument. I'm just saying, if Trump you're in Michigan, 595 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: Michigan is one of the five or six most steadfast 596 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 2: battleground states, your vote matters a great deal. If Trump 597 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 2: weren't on the ballot, you would just let Joe Biden 598 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: win Michigan. 599 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: You wouldn't show. 600 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 3: Up, Yeah, because the Democrats are gonna win anyway. If 601 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: Trump isn't on the ticket, there's no point in voting. 602 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 3: There's no, you know what, are we voting for more 603 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: of this? We're going to Balkanize and probably soon anyway, 604 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: So I don't I don't look. 605 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I just I don't buy into 606 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: this defeatist mindset. If my guy or my girls not 607 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: on the ticket, I'm not showing up because we're gonna 608 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: lose anyway. That is the definition of being the kid 609 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: that takes his ball and goes home when he doesn't 610 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: like the way the election's going. If you live in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, 611 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: maybe New Hampshire, Nevada, states that are uncertain, and you 612 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: are listening to me right now, and your position is 613 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to vote if my favorite candidate isn't 614 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: the nominee, I would submit that you are a total 615 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: loser and you don't care actually about the direction of 616 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: the country, straightforward, honest direct you have to I'm going 617 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 2: to show up and vote Republican in Tennessee, my home state, 618 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 2: no matter who the nominee is for the Republicans, because 619 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: that person is going to be way better than Joe 620 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Biden or whomever the Democrats put forward. 621 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 1: In Joe Biden's position. 622 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: I understand being upset if your candidate's not the choice, 623 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 2: but you got to suck it up. 624 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: I'll take some more calls here as we roll into 625 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: the third hour. 626 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I get fired up when I hear people 627 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: call in and talk to millions of people out there, 628 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 2: particularly when they're in a state like Michigan, and they say, oh, 629 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: if my guy's not the candidate, I'm not showing up. 630 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: That's being an emotional crivaby. That's what democrats sound like. 631 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: Suck it up, have a spine, understand that you always 632 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: don't get your first choice, and that you have to 633 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: go in and get in that ballot box and vote 634 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: for the best of the two options. I hope it's 635 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 2: Trump kicking Joe Biden's ass. Nothing would make me happier 636 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 2: than Democrats like Rachel Maddow crying on election night because 637 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 2: Trump or any other candidate has smoked Joe Biden or 638 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: any other Democrat. But you've got to show up no 639 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: matter who the nominee is.