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Speaker 1: it going everybody? Well, it's good day. I thought for
Speaker 1: a second maybe we had to do it again. I
Speaker 1: thought that all that awesome intro that we had to
Speaker 1: start over. I mean, you're criticizing my intro. It was great,
Speaker 1: I say. I thought because of the music that we heard.
Speaker 1: I thought that was like, oh, oh okay, no, this
Speaker 1: is great. Uh hey, guys going pretty well. It's Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's scrimmage day here at Cowboys Camp. Wait. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm the host today, so I'm gonna say it's scrimmage day.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna scrimmage. They used to call it
Speaker 1: the Blue and White Scrimmage. I don't think they do
Speaker 1: they bother. Okay, it's gonna it's gonna be televised on
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com today. Uh it's is it not
Speaker 1: televised on Dallas cow streamed streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: Let me run this down for you. So it will
Speaker 1: be streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot com, got it. It
Speaker 1: will be on the Dallas Cowboys mobile app. It will
Speaker 1: be on Connected TV. That would be on Roku, Apple TV,
Speaker 1: and Fire Amazon Fire. Um, it will be if you're
Speaker 1: in the Dallas area, it will be on TSA twenty one,
Speaker 1: so make sure you check it out on TSA twenty one.
Speaker 1: You can watch it there live as well, So it'll
Speaker 1: be on all those different channels for you to watch
Speaker 1: live as it happens today four pm Pacific time, six
Speaker 1: pm Central. It'll be about a two hour telecast. This
Speaker 1: is as good a look as you're going to get
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys in the non game setting all year.
Speaker 1: Which to that point, I ask, big deal Blue and
Speaker 1: White Scrimmage Gang yes or no, just yeah, I think so,
Speaker 1: I mean, don't don't get hurt. I mean, but it's
Speaker 1: it's good to actually see some guys maybe tackling sort of.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll have a we'll have a little bit
Speaker 1: of that, but um yeah, I mean, I think everybody
Speaker 1: got excited yesterday about the goal line and and we'll
Speaker 1: I know, we'll talk about that, but I mean, because
Speaker 1: it's the closest thing to football you actually can see
Speaker 1: when we talk all this time about this strength you
Speaker 1: can't really tell, but the old line pushing people around
Speaker 1: what you could tell in that setting, both Scarborough and
Speaker 1: he and guys like that. So I think the scrimmage
Speaker 1: will be an extension of that any No, no, I
Speaker 1: mean it'll it'll be It'll be fun. It will be
Speaker 1: It will be fun from the standpoint that for fans
Speaker 1: you get to actually see some live football. Now, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be what you used to seeing in a game,
Speaker 1: so I don't expect that, but it will be some
Speaker 1: periods will be live and it'll be an opportunity just
Speaker 1: to see the competition of football. So for right now,
Speaker 1: in this time of the year, as many of those
Speaker 1: fans out there that are like me that are missing football.
Speaker 1: This will be football. I will say this. It's like
Speaker 1: I said, this is as good of a look as
Speaker 1: as fans can get if they're not out here, because
Speaker 1: other than that, you're just stuck with my Twitter video
Speaker 1: I'm gonna which is not bad. Which is not bad
Speaker 1: on that because I mean, I'm not gonna run. Have
Speaker 1: you run down that whole list where to watch? It's
Speaker 1: every channel but the Food Network. It seems like you
Speaker 1: can watch this, but it's better to see it there
Speaker 1: than out here, because you know how these scrimmage goes.
Speaker 1: You gotta get around. You got you know we only
Speaker 1: have forty seven coaches. Yeah that stand? Oh yeah no,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have a bird's eye view of this.
Speaker 1: The best view is gonna be watching it there or
Speaker 1: maybe some people that are have a good spot up
Speaker 1: there in the in the bleachers. This is good. It's
Speaker 1: not a scrimma. I don't have this. I mean, to
Speaker 1: the point of a scoreboard and all that. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: win with a blue one twenty eight? It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be that, but it'll it's football. Well, it's the closest
Speaker 1: thing we can see and the other thing to note
Speaker 1: too for those out there that'll be watching it, they'll
Speaker 1: also get good commentary because all you guys, I know
Speaker 1: that you Nick and Dave and Rob and Brian and
Speaker 1: Bill Jones and Mickey and then just the whole crew
Speaker 1: will be out as a part of this on air
Speaker 1: giving commentary on what's happening during the scrimmage. So it's
Speaker 1: your chance to kind of catch up on a lot
Speaker 1: of things too, because you guys will talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been noticing this and this player during camp, and
Speaker 1: we've noticed this story with this player, and so it'll
Speaker 1: be a good way to kind of get this full
Speaker 1: synopsis in two hours of what's been happening out of
Speaker 1: training camp and actually see these guys on the field.
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, it's a great opportunity to see
Speaker 1: what's going with the Cowboys. It is going to be
Speaker 1: a football feast for sure later today. Before we get
Speaker 1: into that, well that hasn't happened yet, so let's rewind
Speaker 1: the clock. Nick alluded to it. Cowboys had a pretty
Speaker 1: spirited practice yesterday, did eight live reps on the goal line.
Speaker 1: There was a scuffle between the offensive and defensive lines.
Speaker 1: I want to give him a fight a brawl if
Speaker 1: you not quite a brawl. We've seen some brawls out here.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that qualifies as a brawl. No, no,
Speaker 1: but it was definitely different than than some of the
Speaker 1: typical yes, pushing and shoving, like all right, well real
Speaker 1: before we get into that real, Just right off the bat,
Speaker 1: a couple news and notes. Um Charles Tapper came back
Speaker 1: to practice yesterday. Sean Lee stood around in his uniform
Speaker 1: and worked out on the side. But I still don't
Speaker 1: think he did any meaningful contact practice unless I missed something.
Speaker 1: Anybody I didn't see him do anything. Deonte Thompson and
Speaker 1: Chris Covington also sat out, and then the big one.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if anybody has an update
Speaker 1: on this, but Shitaba Woozier sat out for a decent
Speaker 1: portion of practice. We haven't talked to Jason Garrett yet today,
Speaker 1: but does anybody anybody hurt anything about that? Should we
Speaker 1: be concerned? Just just watching him talk to the trainers
Speaker 1: and kind of walking off yesterday, it didn't seem that serious,
Speaker 1: and mainly because of and we've seen this before, when
Speaker 1: a guy gets gets banged up in practice. If it's
Speaker 1: really bad. I mean, they're gonna take him in and
Speaker 1: get him off his feet a little bit. And and
Speaker 1: he just kind of stayed off to the side. So I,
Speaker 1: without knowing anything, it just looked like it was a
Speaker 1: precautionary thing, banged up. Let's just hold out, let's see
Speaker 1: what We'll see what happens. But I think for the
Speaker 1: most part, he's gonna be fine. I would assume. All right,
Speaker 1: as I alluded to, thank you, Nick, Thank you Nick.
Speaker 1: Three welcome three. Three main storylines came out of yesterday's practice.
Speaker 1: In my in my view, all right, uh A B
Speaker 1: and C amber, which don't look at my notes. I
Speaker 1: can't you think that I don't know no what A
Speaker 1: B or C? What should we talk about first? A
Speaker 1: B or C? Just pick one? Well, gotta go with
Speaker 1: it here, Hey, okay, andar well. In that case, as
Speaker 1: we alluded to, Travis Frederick and at Antoine Woods got
Speaker 1: after it yesterday, um looked like some trash talking after
Speaker 1: a one on one rep and it led to a
Speaker 1: whole thing. Uh, Derek, what I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 1: to unpack there, Like just what was your favorite part
Speaker 1: of that whole episode? There were several I mean, and
Speaker 1: first of all, it seemed like there was some trash
Speaker 1: talk that was going on before the play. That's kind
Speaker 1: of where it seemed like it started. There was kind
Speaker 1: of this, you know, okay, let's just let's just play
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. And then they play and
Speaker 1: and Travis kind of got beat on it and uh,
Speaker 1: and so then the trash talk really starts. And the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, maybe a right cross. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe right cross, maybe overhand right, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I know it was a right and it came in
Speaker 1: swift and uh. And at first I couldn't touch it
Speaker 1: because you're actually just hurting your hand. Although some of
Speaker 1: the clubs that these guys have for hands, like, I
Speaker 1: do wonder if how how bad that would hurt, even
Speaker 1: if you have a face mask on. I do wonder
Speaker 1: if just the jolt of it is is kind of painful.
Speaker 1: Who knows. All I know is it started a brawl.
Speaker 1: Everybody came in and then of course my favorite part,
Speaker 1: Martin comes over the top. There's I mean, and it's
Speaker 1: at the top of the whole thing and just kind
Speaker 1: of lands on the pile. And for my money, it's
Speaker 1: the best thing that's happened at training camp. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It looked like I've never seen Sack act like that,
Speaker 1: I mean and react like that. Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: um which. But the strange thing is like yesterday, for
Speaker 1: some reason, maybe we've just been here too long already,
Speaker 1: where the energy was just up the air, just so
Speaker 1: high since walk through. I mean, we've never heard them
Speaker 1: make so much noise during walkthrough as they were doing yesterday,
Speaker 1: didn't so into it. And then I guess that carried
Speaker 1: over to the afternoon practice. Yeah, and it is. It's
Speaker 1: getting to that point in practice, That's what they all
Speaker 1: said where it's like, Okay, we're hitting each other, and
Speaker 1: the more you're going against the same guy, the more
Speaker 1: he's doing things now that kind of annoy you a
Speaker 1: little bit, and it probably vice versa, and so it
Speaker 1: kind of just gets to that point and it's getting
Speaker 1: close to preseason time, like we need to go hit
Speaker 1: somebody else, which well they sort of they didn't get
Speaker 1: a shift to somebody else, but they got a chance
Speaker 1: to hit, which I think played a role in that. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys did live goal line yesterday. They ran eight reps,
Speaker 1: four for the first team, two for the second team
Speaker 1: defense won five out of eight of the reps. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just be a classic fan and say concern
Speaker 1: for the offense or happy for the defense here, happy
Speaker 1: for the defense. Yeah, I'm not concerned by the offense. Again,
Speaker 1: I think that the defense, this defense is going to
Speaker 1: be there. This defense to me seems undersized and quick
Speaker 1: and and in practice settings like this, when they're not
Speaker 1: getting knocked on their ass, they're gonna look pretty good
Speaker 1: out here. I want to see how well that they tackle,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not really that concerned just yet. Now
Speaker 1: I understand the goal line reps. I mean I think
Speaker 1: it was pretty much ones against the twos, right. No, well,
Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean like some guys are coming
Speaker 1: in now, but they had ones going against ones. It
Speaker 1: just wasn't Zeke right, right, that's which or Rod Smith
Speaker 1: for that man. Yea. They made some strategic substitutions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there was a healthy portion of starters in
Speaker 1: the field. You know what I like from yesterdays that
Speaker 1: a few guys that we're not necessarily used to talking
Speaker 1: about stood out. For example, Tarvarius Ward. That's the guy
Speaker 1: that just shined yesterday and he let you know who
Speaker 1: number forty. I bet he was that one of your
Speaker 1: three's in season. He's actually not so great. Great day friend.
Speaker 1: Well no, I was just saying, that's the guy that
Speaker 1: we haven't really been talking about, and yesterday he made
Speaker 1: everyone look who number forty was. Who's that guy? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of this. There's a lot of distant
Speaker 1: number forty. Okay, alright, you're always going to go back
Speaker 1: to what you know, right, he didn't have the dreads.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason I didn't think that. Before we
Speaker 1: get back in the ward, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: the goal line for a second. Okay, they I hate
Speaker 1: their play calling down there. I really do. They do
Speaker 1: it all the time. Why do we have so many
Speaker 1: counter traps and guys that are pulling and almost like
Speaker 1: these delayed handoff especially when you have a guy like
Speaker 1: Scarborough or even Zeke just just just hit the hole.
Speaker 1: I mean, you need one yard one yard, just run
Speaker 1: the but we have the guard pulling, and I just
Speaker 1: these are the plays we saw here. But we've seen
Speaker 1: this but down in the goal line before, where things
Speaker 1: just take too much time and you let everybody kind
Speaker 1: of get to the ball if you just give me
Speaker 1: the guy go north south and just run the ball
Speaker 1: and run someone over. I saw it wasn't just Bo
Speaker 1: Scarborough running it right, was it? Bo got the first
Speaker 1: team reps. Jordan Chun took some second I remember some
Speaker 1: of that too. I mean he was the one that
Speaker 1: I remember a lot where he was kind of moving
Speaker 1: to the side and waiting for the guard to get
Speaker 1: out of his way and got stuffed in the backfield.
Speaker 1: I think they do that way too often. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a big strong line. You have big strong
Speaker 1: backs just run people over like I don't know which
Speaker 1: too much counters down at the goal line. And that's
Speaker 1: I guess that's why I asked that question at the
Speaker 1: top is I'm not concerned about the offense. It's too
Speaker 1: few reps to concern me. But best offensive line in
Speaker 1: the league. I know Zeke wasn't in there, but they
Speaker 1: got stuffed twice in a row at the end of
Speaker 1: the first team and I'm just not sure that that's
Speaker 1: supposed to happen if they're as good as they're supposed
Speaker 1: to be. I will throw this out too. And I
Speaker 1: noticed this. I was expecting that when they got in
Speaker 1: goal line they would have more offensive linemen on the
Speaker 1: field than putting the three tight ends out there. But
Speaker 1: a lot of times they ran thirteen personnel where they
Speaker 1: had three tight ends, or twenty three personnel. They had
Speaker 1: two backs and three tight ends, and they weren't bringing
Speaker 1: in an extra offensive linemen. I was expecting to see
Speaker 1: Looney and guys like that. They weren't. They were putting
Speaker 1: They were putting those tight ends out there. And to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, there were a couple of plays
Speaker 1: with tight I was particularly watching Rico. Rico didn't have
Speaker 1: a horrible day in goal line yesterday. There were a
Speaker 1: couple of blocks he made where he sustained the block,
Speaker 1: he got to this guy, he sustained the block, got
Speaker 1: the guy out of the play. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if that was just them testing
Speaker 1: things out right about or if that's something that they're
Speaker 1: going to actually go into the season and really think, Hey,
Speaker 1: these these tight ends are good enough for us to
Speaker 1: be able to throw them out there and keep them
Speaker 1: out there in goal one situation that kind of goes
Speaker 1: to my point from the other day, which is that
Speaker 1: are they really going to change that much about the
Speaker 1: nuts and bolts of the way they want to do things.
Speaker 1: I mean, which goal line is a little tricky because
Speaker 1: you're not running ten personnel from the one yard line.
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to do it. Well. I mean
Speaker 1: you kind of like that's every once in a while.
Speaker 1: Maybe send Jumbo Joe in there instead. But uh, finish
Speaker 1: your thought about tre various word. Because he did have
Speaker 1: a nice day, it wasn't glaring enough to make my rundown.
Speaker 1: So oh go, okay, well that's because there's something more
Speaker 1: important I want to talk about as soon as well.
Speaker 1: I will say this six people. We do our Star
Speaker 1: of the Day when we have six people that vote
Speaker 1: on it and three people, and I'm the one that
Speaker 1: puts it together, and I probably would have put made
Speaker 1: a fourth in there, but I just said, you know,
Speaker 1: let's have some balance, So you go Dorn's Armstrong. I
Speaker 1: think Doran's Armstrong is continuing to do some really good
Speaker 1: things to the point where and I said this actually
Speaker 1: a week ago, I think on the show, and we're
Speaker 1: there now. I'm tired of you beating number sixty three. Okay,
Speaker 1: camp posts cool, you can beat him, You're better than him,
Speaker 1: that's great. I want to see you against Lyall Collins.
Speaker 1: I want to see you against Tyrant Smith, maybe because
Speaker 1: you armstrong is explosive enough. He's doing some really nice things.
Speaker 1: Let's see him against somebody else and someone with a
Speaker 1: little bit better. Yeah, but we're gonna talk about word.
Speaker 1: I keep bouncing around. No, he No, your conception was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a really great interception. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just brings me back to thinking
Speaker 1: and I don't want to bring up the whole safety
Speaker 1: position again, but just but just when you see the
Speaker 1: death at corner and a few guys like him, that
Speaker 1: is starting to make certain place. And maybe that was
Speaker 1: because Cheetah was out the gay him the opportunity to
Speaker 1: get something more and and make something out of it.
Speaker 1: But when you see the death there and then not
Speaker 1: at safety, I'm like, what the heck is going on?
Speaker 1: Then we don't we don't have to get into it again. Sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: but I want to finish off recapping yesterday's practice. Um
Speaker 1: not more of a down note. Dan Bailey missed two
Speaker 1: kicks again yesterday. One of them was the last rep
Speaker 1: of path of practice. It was from thirty three yards away.
Speaker 1: That's the sixteen yard line. That's five missed ones so
Speaker 1: far and those you've come and y'all worried about Dan Bailey.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a little bit of a raised eyebrow, like, like,
Speaker 1: tell tell me how to approach this situation. They don't
Speaker 1: have options, though, do they? But you always have options.
Speaker 1: I mean there's kickers on the street every year. No. No,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is Dan Bailey is going to be
Speaker 1: on this roster. There's no to start the season. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any Yeah, there's no. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: in my mind he's going to be on this roster.
Speaker 1: Question becomes are they concerned enough to where they actually
Speaker 1: carry a second one? Because if they do that, then
Speaker 1: I think that's a mistake. Nobody does that, right, I
Speaker 1: think that body does that. I think the I think
Speaker 1: the question is is how long is the leash? That's
Speaker 1: the question. When do you actually cut ties? Um, we're
Speaker 1: probably getting we're not so far ahead ahead of ourselves here,
Speaker 1: but okay, let me rephrase, because I agree you are
Speaker 1: getting ahead of yourself. But at what point does concern
Speaker 1: become legitimate concern? I mean, let's wait until the preseason.
Speaker 1: Well throw him in the preseason. Let him kick. You
Speaker 1: raise another interesting point, which is Dan Bailey typically has
Speaker 1: had the type of status where you're not going to
Speaker 1: see him on Thursday Night, you know, like you're gonna
Speaker 1: use Brett Marr to get through that. Though he status
Speaker 1: is not there yet. Throw him in the preseason. I
Speaker 1: want to see Dan Bailey kick against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: I would, But here's my question, So what does that mean? Though,
Speaker 1: Let's assume that he plays in the preseason. Let's assume
Speaker 1: that he has in four preseason game games, he has
Speaker 1: I don't know, six kicks, and let's assume he misses
Speaker 1: two of them, two of them from makeable distance. Is
Speaker 1: that changing what you're doing heading into the season? No? No,
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey to me has deserved the opportunity, of course,
Speaker 1: to get to the regular season, and nothing is going
Speaker 1: to change until he loses you two games. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: I agree. Not one game, misses a kick in the
Speaker 1: third quarter or the fourth quarter of a game and
Speaker 1: you lose. It happens a lot if he misses two.
Speaker 1: If there's two games where his misses or extra point
Speaker 1: where makers affect yeah, yeah, And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: things that in the fifties. I mean, just makeable kicks.
Speaker 1: If it happens in two games relatively early in the year, now,
Speaker 1: you gotta really felt some conversations. Yeah, but he's putting
Speaker 1: himself down to like even him being just like an average,
Speaker 1: you know, kicker. He we're just so used to him
Speaker 1: being so automatic and making everything that even and then
Speaker 1: him missing those. It's not that he's horrible, he's just
Speaker 1: I think, down to that level a little bit. If
Speaker 1: you're missing thirty something yard field goals, that's not average,
Speaker 1: that's below average, Like that's that's expected. You're expected to
Speaker 1: make those if you're missing on the clip that he
Speaker 1: is right now where he's missed what was at four
Speaker 1: in the last two practice. How many of those were
Speaker 1: on their thirty I don't remember. All of those were
Speaker 1: at least forty forty two and less. His two miss
Speaker 1: his two misses from Thursday were from thirty eight and forty.
Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know. His first miss yesterday
Speaker 1: was on the other end of the field. I didn't
Speaker 1: see how long it was, but I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 1: was it was. I'm pretty sure it was in that
Speaker 1: fortieth range you're talking about, you know, manageable distance, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: so that you're missing kicks at that clip at that range.
Speaker 1: To me, that's not average. That's below average, and that's
Speaker 1: not expect It's not only below what we expect from
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey, it's below what you expect from an info kicker.
Speaker 1: And my and my experience and and you guys can
Speaker 1: have different opinions here. In my experience, it's typically like
Speaker 1: this a breakdown. There's ten kickers in the NFL that
Speaker 1: are just pretty pretty much automatic. Every time, there's ten
Speaker 1: more that are pretty good. They're gonna make most of them,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna they're gonna kind of piss you off
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Then there's ten. No, then
Speaker 1: there's ten, there's ten, and then there's thirty more that
Speaker 1: are like hit or miss. You don't know what to expect. Now,
Speaker 1: twelve of those thirty gotta be on a team, right,
Speaker 1: that's thirty. That's your thirty two. But then there's about
Speaker 1: eight team. So there's a pool of thirty guys somewhere
Speaker 1: on the streets. I'm are some you know, And right
Speaker 1: now I think Dan's in that thirty. I think he
Speaker 1: was always in this ten over here, and then last
Speaker 1: year he's kind of gotten in this after the injury,
Speaker 1: and now he's in that in that mode right now.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying not good enough to be on
Speaker 1: a roster, but you're kind of your lease is just shorter.
Speaker 1: It just is. Yeah, I'm still giving him the benefit.
Speaker 1: I absolutely he's earned the benefit of doubt. And that's
Speaker 1: why I asked the question, even if you play him
Speaker 1: in the preseason, I don't know that anything that happens
Speaker 1: in the preseason unless he absolutely bombs and misses everything.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything in the preseason is going to
Speaker 1: change how they enter into the season. It'll just be
Speaker 1: a matter, like Nick said, if he starts losing you games,
Speaker 1: then it's going to be a question where they have
Speaker 1: to say something, they have to do something. What's Garrett's record,
Speaker 1: I mean six or seven games over forty nine or
Speaker 1: something like that, fifty I mean it's close. Everything is close,
Speaker 1: and this team is always this league is that way,
Speaker 1: and you've got to have a good kicker. I think
Speaker 1: we're all in agreement giving Dan the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt for the time being, but it is much more
Speaker 1: on our radar than it was a week ago. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Back to The Break. Hello, we are back with a
Speaker 1: Sunday edition of The Break. I believe according to our
Speaker 1: hot shot producer Ken Garrison, that we have a call
Speaker 1: from Shane in Washington. Shane, Shane, what up? Hey, I
Speaker 1: got a comment and quicktion for you guys. My comment
Speaker 1: is is that I love the fact that the defense
Speaker 1: is winning all these reps and I can't remember the
Speaker 1: last time that the Dallas defense was just and I
Speaker 1: know it's early and this is just training camp, but
Speaker 1: if this Dallas defense can be in top five, top six,
Speaker 1: and I know it's early, and even if the offense
Speaker 1: goes down a little, a great defense and a great
Speaker 1: running game seems to work in this in this league,
Speaker 1: I just I just love it. I just want to
Speaker 1: see a great defense. So I love Cheetah Bay and
Speaker 1: at what everybody's doing there. And then my question is
Speaker 1: is during the Blue and White scrimmage, I know it's
Speaker 1: pretty much just a practice until the last few minutes
Speaker 1: and then they get the young guys in there. Do
Speaker 1: you think Cooper Rush and uh Mike Wide are going
Speaker 1: to get in there for that. And then my comment is,
Speaker 1: I love the rotation of the host Nick and Amberg.
Speaker 1: Just I love that you guys are making me laugh,
Speaker 1: So keep the rotation up. Thinks. For the record, Derek,
Speaker 1: that was a shot at you. That is not a
Speaker 1: shot at me. I've told you. I've told you number
Speaker 1: of times. People want variety. Nobody wants. We can get Zeke.
Speaker 1: I mean nobody wants. I don't know. Talk to some
Speaker 1: Crimson Tide fans. Different people like variety, and we can
Speaker 1: give him some variety. It's good, it's good. I would
Speaker 1: expect that Cooper, Russian, Mike White are gonna see all
Speaker 1: the reps during the actual scrimmage. Part of this practice
Speaker 1: that I mean, yeah, blue the actual Blue White scrimmage
Speaker 1: is for young players. Dak doesn't qualify as young anymore. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here though he's only in his third year, he mean,
Speaker 1: he's can't you got thirty three starts under your belt? No,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I agree with you. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's the irony of it is, he's a third year
Speaker 1: and he's a widely vet at this point. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to throw that back at you. At some point.
Speaker 1: This whole like variety. Everyone loves variety because you know
Speaker 1: how many times you say to me, you need to
Speaker 1: have consistency. People like continuity and things and something completely different.
Speaker 1: Not really the show, No, I'm not. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the fullback position. Yeah, we've moved on from that. You
Speaker 1: didn't You didn't move on, guys, Yeah, do this on
Speaker 1: your Show's not mine. Let's just get on it. I
Speaker 1: was about to say the host over there is not
Speaker 1: doing a good job of keeping this thing on the rail. Stop,
Speaker 1: let's stop it. Right, Here's what I want to do
Speaker 1: in here's what I want to do. In the second segment,
Speaker 1: to answer the caller, he had seventeen points. I answered.
Speaker 1: First of all, he said he had a comment and
Speaker 1: a question. He made a comment. Then he asked a
Speaker 1: question about the quarterbacks, and I answer it. But what
Speaker 1: about the rest of the group, What about him? Okay,
Speaker 1: what go ahead? No, Well, he's talked about the defense.
Speaker 1: This defense isn't good. It was he made this point
Speaker 1: about all this defense is winning reps, and I can't
Speaker 1: wait for them to be great. He just said he
Speaker 1: wanted them to be right, but we're not. We're not
Speaker 1: doing this we're not I get it, but I do
Speaker 1: want to ask the question. You said the defense is
Speaker 1: not good. Are you cool? I don't know that you
Speaker 1: can say right now that the defense is not good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the most you can say is
Speaker 1: that they're unproven. I don't think you could say they're
Speaker 1: not good. Right well, he said I want a great defense,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not going to be a
Speaker 1: great defense. It's not going to be a great defense.
Speaker 1: It may be a good defense, but it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be great defense. I'm not I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think right now you could say what they're gonna be.
Speaker 1: I think they're unproven. I think they have a ton
Speaker 1: of question marks, and a lot of those question marks
Speaker 1: could also go the other way and could make them
Speaker 1: really great. Like if Sean Lee plays a whole season
Speaker 1: and plays to the level, Sean Lee's defense will be
Speaker 1: really good. If Jalen Smith is what they expected him
Speaker 1: to be when they drafted him years ago could be
Speaker 1: really really good. If Byron Jones keeps doing in a
Speaker 1: season what he's doing right now, it could be so
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is I don't think you could say
Speaker 1: they won't be. I think you have to say, there's
Speaker 1: a ton of question marks, and there's a lot that
Speaker 1: they have to prove right now, we don't know it now.
Speaker 1: Even with the offense, if they are able to play
Speaker 1: better this year and stay on the field more and
Speaker 1: go down the field, that helps the defense because last
Speaker 1: year we saw a lot of vocations where they were
Speaker 1: in and out of the field the offense and then
Speaker 1: the defense goes in and that affects it because then
Speaker 1: your defense gets tired and spend way too much time
Speaker 1: on the field. So maybe you're getting way to ahead
Speaker 1: of yourself. And let's get back on track. Dave, I'm
Speaker 1: ad and absolutely loss for why I spend time making
Speaker 1: notes for this show. Well, why do we take questions
Speaker 1: if we're not going to answer? Well, he didn't ask
Speaker 1: a question, he made a comment. He just said he
Speaker 1: likes what the defense looks like. You anyway, m here's
Speaker 1: what I want to do with what's left of the
Speaker 1: second segment of the show. I have some questions, actually
Speaker 1: they're not questions. Their statements that I want y'all to
Speaker 1: finish for me, just honestly, some of them based on
Speaker 1: training camp, some of them just things that I want
Speaker 1: to know the answer to and I'm curious for y'all's opinion.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start out, Nick, I'll throw it to you.
Speaker 1: The next player to sign a long term deal for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys whole Beasley. Oh yeah, M interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Cole Beasley, um contract year. I could
Speaker 1: see them maybe extending him a little bit um, but
Speaker 1: is that I don't know if that's a long term
Speaker 1: deal multiple years. Let's just we'll say multiple. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say Cole Beasley before the DeMarcus Lawrence one and um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it happened to camp, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's anything that's breaking the bank or anything
Speaker 1: like that. That sounds like it's kind of scoopy right there.
Speaker 1: I'm no, Maybe you're hearing some whisper maybe imply a
Speaker 1: little implier, Yeah, pliery, impliery. I don't know. There's ninety
Speaker 1: players here. There's ninety players on the on that are
Speaker 1: out in the field. I don't know how many agents
Speaker 1: are here, so you know, hey, possible, Hey, okay, I
Speaker 1: would say him or I was just trying to start
Speaker 1: uh talk show banter and and I Hey, and you happened.
Speaker 1: It's the news fascinating, well not quite news. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just my hunch. You started with me. Who else? I'd
Speaker 1: like to hear some other answers? Anybody want to throw in? Man,
Speaker 1: I was actually looking down the roster, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't think of one that I feel
Speaker 1: really comfortable with. I do though. It can't be d
Speaker 1: law Right, Is that? Why can't be? I mean? And well,
Speaker 1: I mean I thought that was the I don't know,
Speaker 1: you said the first one, Yeah, which I mean, they
Speaker 1: could wait till last they could wait, they can wait
Speaker 1: till the season. He can't do it right now. No,
Speaker 1: he cannot do it. That's what I meant. Okay, And
Speaker 1: I think I think, if you're just taking a safe route,
Speaker 1: I would say him, because that's probably the guy you
Speaker 1: look at right now and say, if anybody's deserving of
Speaker 1: a contract, that would be a veil that would need
Speaker 1: to be done in the next addressed in the next year.
Speaker 1: The easy answer is DeMarcus Lawrence. Watching these practices, I
Speaker 1: feel more and more confident that that I agree is
Speaker 1: a thing that will happen. He's basically your strongest guy
Speaker 1: on defense. So you have to do whatever you can
Speaker 1: to be ald a defensive line. But see the thing
Speaker 1: is that question wouldn't have been but imposed if you
Speaker 1: didn't have a guy in there too. Can you answer
Speaker 1: some of these DeMarcus is what made me think of
Speaker 1: that question. I didn't know if there was someone else
Speaker 1: that was actually I mean, actually, he's got he's under
Speaker 1: he's under contract. Here's the deal. Let's assume for a
Speaker 1: second that he has a really good season this year
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, consider maybe going ahead and giving him
Speaker 1: a new deal that maybe a little bit less than
Speaker 1: what they think he would get on the open market,
Speaker 1: just to go ahead and get it done right. We've
Speaker 1: seen him do that before too, like a guy has
Speaker 1: a good year and then go ahead and give him
Speaker 1: a little something like oh man, we love you, but
Speaker 1: it's not what they would get if they stayed another
Speaker 1: year and did really well and then you got a
Speaker 1: battle with an open market or put a franchise tag
Speaker 1: on him or something like that. That's a possibility. We
Speaker 1: just have to wait and see how he goes this year,
Speaker 1: and especially with Richard being in here and seeing maybe
Speaker 1: what he can convert Byron into, then maybe yeah, I
Speaker 1: could also see in the middle of the year, maybe
Speaker 1: if things are going well, you try to get Tavon
Speaker 1: Austin And isn't this the last year of his deal? Yes,
Speaker 1: he's never played a snap for the Cowboys, so let's
Speaker 1: get ahead of hers. Derek. The unknown player who has
Speaker 1: impressed you the most is Blank. And when I say unknown,
Speaker 1: I mean he can't be a starter, maybe not to
Speaker 1: beach our various award as of yesterday, because the things
Speaker 1: he did in that practice yesterday. But I understand, I
Speaker 1: understand that. But but the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: the number of plays he made yesterday. It's one thing
Speaker 1: if you'd have made one play and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: he stepped okay, a little sell the guy was. There
Speaker 1: were at least three times when I was like, again, like,
Speaker 1: I think he had just a phenomenal day yesterday. So
Speaker 1: I definitely think he is a guy that that now
Speaker 1: is on everybody's rate. Let me answer it for you.
Speaker 1: I think your answer should be thanks Nick ninety two,
Speaker 1: Brian Price. Okay, but he's always been on my radar.
Speaker 1: I was talking about I was talking about him in
Speaker 1: the off season. He was the best one technique there.
Speaker 1: If if Joe and Flower Mound needs to like. Brian
Speaker 1: Price counts. Brian Price absolutely counts. He's about a lot.
Speaker 1: I liked it. I loved him Last year when he
Speaker 1: got hurt, I thought it was gonna be a significant
Speaker 1: loss for them because I thought he was the best
Speaker 1: guy they had there in the middle age. You feel
Speaker 1: like you feel strongly about this. It was your answer.
Speaker 1: Oh dang good, go nick Um. Joe Thomas is a
Speaker 1: guy that I've like, Joey Joe. You know, he's played
Speaker 1: a lot here with with Sean Leout. He's a guy
Speaker 1: that people kind of forget on the on the guys
Speaker 1: that they signed because Alan Hearns is a player that
Speaker 1: that was new Deontay Thompson. Joe Thomas has kind of
Speaker 1: went under the radar, but I think he's actually played well.
Speaker 1: He's going to fit into this mix of special teams,
Speaker 1: maybe some nickel or something. I'll go with Lance Lenoir
Speaker 1: just because I have not been a fan of his
Speaker 1: and I just haven't. And last year I felt that
Speaker 1: during the preseason, I practice it was mainly practiced. I
Speaker 1: felt that the Cowboys gave him plenty of chances and
Speaker 1: there would always be something like him not catching the
Speaker 1: ball or dropping it and not really doing much. And
Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys like him and they've stucked with him.
Speaker 1: And now I'm trying to see maybe what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have seen in him, of him kind of making certain
Speaker 1: plays and making it happen. But that was one that
Speaker 1: I haven't been a fan of, and starting to change
Speaker 1: my mind a little bit. Okay, I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 1: you because this is just right up your alley. The
Speaker 1: guy I need to see more from at this camp
Speaker 1: is blank. You will not hold back the guy that
Speaker 1: you need to see more at this camp who's not
Speaker 1: showing you enough right now? Oh okay, okay. Rico gathers,
Speaker 1: what is up? I don't know? I mean, can everyone
Speaker 1: do that? I can go okay, no, but he is
Speaker 1: He's the one that keeps me kind of confused because
Speaker 1: he'll make certain place for you and he he looks promising,
Speaker 1: but it's just not fully convincing. I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: how far this project will go to. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he makes the team, but he's just not convincing me.
Speaker 1: As of tight end. I would love love for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to move him position and put him somewhere else.
Speaker 1: That's something that I really doubt he will be in
Speaker 1: for because any other position would not be maybe uh
Speaker 1: starish enough for him. And we know the kind of
Speaker 1: guy he is a good point, so I don't know
Speaker 1: that that might be tough on him to actually do that.
Speaker 1: And I don't see the Cowboys actually making that kind
Speaker 1: of move, But that would be my move if I
Speaker 1: had to run this thing. Move Rico on the line,
Speaker 1: put him there, let him block. All right, Derek, Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, but ahead, I'm trying to streamline this and
Speaker 1: get us with you wherever you want to go. The
Speaker 1: guy I don't need to see another snap from until
Speaker 1: September ninth is easy. I don't need to see nothing else.
Speaker 1: He is ready for the season and he doesn't need
Speaker 1: to do anything else. Just let's get to the sea.
Speaker 1: Can I answer that first, that question that she did
Speaker 1: about Rico, because my answer is not gonna be liked.
Speaker 1: Go for it. But the guy that needs to do
Speaker 1: we need to see it a little more from is
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, because he were you not just been talking
Speaker 1: about how good he's doing. We need to see more.
Speaker 1: We need to see more. You need to do a
Speaker 1: little bit more he needs to make. Well, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: It's both. Trevarius Ward got Player of the Day the
Speaker 1: other day Byron Jones made a play of the day
Speaker 1: when he came running in and bocked knocked the ball down.
Speaker 1: But the issue is is the ball wasn't there. Lens
Speaker 1: lanor had um Byron Jones beat on that play should
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. Trevarius Ward was beaten badly by
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. That ball wasn't there ward, it was underthrown.
Speaker 1: He picked it off in a nice play, pushed him
Speaker 1: to the ground every while. Now he's the player of
Speaker 1: the day, but if that ball was out there like
Speaker 1: he needed to be, and that's his deep ball has
Speaker 1: not been that great, especially on the deep ball. Dak
Speaker 1: on the deep ball, say that that's what needs to
Speaker 1: be a little bit better because it hasn't been there
Speaker 1: and it hasn't been there. And if Trevarius Ward, I
Speaker 1: mean he was beaten, I mean, great job to stay
Speaker 1: with the play and make the ball. But you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, if the ball was out there a
Speaker 1: little bit more, and I think that's one thing this
Speaker 1: that Dak needs to be really improve. Yeah, check down Charlie.
Speaker 1: He's he's got that down. He needs to be able
Speaker 1: to convert those. He threw that past to Beasley, you know,
Speaker 1: and Beasley is streaking down the field and we don't
Speaker 1: see the deep ball. That's all I'm saying. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, because you've been talking about Dad, he's good,
Speaker 1: and what if he what if he shows it to
Speaker 1: you like that's he's gonna show you. I know, I
Speaker 1: know it's You're right, He's gonna show it against Cincinnati. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when that's right. If he does, if he doesn't
Speaker 1: play well, if he's never been any when he gets
Speaker 1: to the game, he plays another level. But I will
Speaker 1: I mean we I thought we talked about this on
Speaker 1: Friday Show, the fact that we had everybody kind of
Speaker 1: chime in and say what he thought of the top ten,
Speaker 1: and there were there were some ballots that had that
Speaker 1: didn't even have him on the list, and others that
Speaker 1: had him far down on the list like eight or nine.
Speaker 1: I mean it it was to me that's telling because
Speaker 1: there's not a camp that I can remember, unless you
Speaker 1: want to go back to when the Cowboys were really
Speaker 1: deficient at quarterback, where you didn't say yeah, we know
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks have been great. Let's talk about somebody else, right,
Speaker 1: And it's and I asked you this question, Nick, I
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't recall. I couldn't recall just a
Speaker 1: great throw during camp, something that made me go, holy crap,
Speaker 1: that's a great throw. I didn't I don't remember, And
Speaker 1: I think actually may have been you, Dave, And you
Speaker 1: mentioned another pass that he actually did throw that early
Speaker 1: on in camp. Right. But but again, it just hasn't
Speaker 1: been a lot of those wild moments. And again maybe
Speaker 1: that's just because that's not the kind of player he
Speaker 1: is in practice. That's something that translates when he gets
Speaker 1: to the game and he's able to use his legs
Speaker 1: as well. At all factors, some of his best players
Speaker 1: have been on the run, which you don't really want
Speaker 1: that in practice anyway, because you're not actually allowed to
Speaker 1: sack the quarter back. Right, you don't need to see
Speaker 1: another snap from Zeke. I agree with you. I also
Speaker 1: would throw Shaun Lee in there. To be totally honest
Speaker 1: with you, at this point, you don't even want to
Speaker 1: see him. I don't want to see him. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see one. Just stay, stay where you are.
Speaker 1: I do have a little bit of a problem with
Speaker 1: not seeing a guy a guy at all during Lawrence
Speaker 1: during this time of the year. It's a good one,
Speaker 1: you know, I do not not if at all, not
Speaker 1: if he's on that count all the fights between the
Speaker 1: old line and d line. Um, some of this guy
Speaker 1: is like you don't don't freaking hurt sag Marian, don't
Speaker 1: hurt Travis, don't hurt, tiring, tiring, don't be jumping. Good
Speaker 1: he get the get out. I was going to ask
Speaker 1: about a d Law. We've seen him kind of move
Speaker 1: across the line. I don't know either he's trying to
Speaker 1: be the leader there and kind of show hey, do
Speaker 1: more things, or are we maybe seeing could he be
Speaker 1: a guy that that goes inside and on certain plays,
Speaker 1: you know JPP when he was at his peak with
Speaker 1: the Giants, he was all over the place. Are we
Speaker 1: going to see that because you do have Gregory, you
Speaker 1: have Tapper, you have got I'm in say Taco on
Speaker 1: the outside, they could rush. Maybe this is a preview
Speaker 1: of like Dlaw could be inside. And if you noticed
Speaker 1: yesterday they did the same thing Crawford. Crawford went down
Speaker 1: the line yesterday and one on one and went against
Speaker 1: several different guys down the line. And I do think
Speaker 1: that that's part of it. I think they want to
Speaker 1: move these guys around them their rushman as their as
Speaker 1: the head of their unit says, and I think part
Speaker 1: of that is they wanted to have that position flex well.
Speaker 1: They can in certain pass rush situations move them around
Speaker 1: a little bit and try to exploit the weaknesses of
Speaker 1: the offensive lines. They're going again, all right, we are
Speaker 1: up on our second break. I've got more of these.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna have to scrap my third segment.
Speaker 1: We'll do a whole show out of that, I think.
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Speaker 1: no we need there, I believe. Kent said we have
Speaker 1: a call from Pierre and Las Calinas. You know Pierre
Speaker 1: you want to come out here. Yeah, yeah, man, let's
Speaker 1: do it. What you got hey? I just wanted to say, man,
Speaker 1: I think every unit on that team had something to prove,
Speaker 1: even every player has something to prove. Zeke, running backs, quarterback, receivers,
Speaker 1: old line, d lines, linebackers, corner of safety. He's a
Speaker 1: special teams. Everybody has something to prove. I think that
Speaker 1: in and of itself, it's going to make the team
Speaker 1: pretty competitive and move them, motivate them to have a
Speaker 1: pretty good record this year. Agreed, Great, Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: any any other question? Um, Now, that's it. Man. I
Speaker 1: offer up a critique, but that's not the time to
Speaker 1: place for it. Well thanks for the call, man, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Stay cool down there. Tajas will be back sooner. You
Speaker 1: know another guy that I just thought of, I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I I absolutely agree. Everyone needs to prove something here
Speaker 1: on the team. Well, there's a few addressed that. Go
Speaker 1: ahead with your no. I was gonna point out Taco Charlton.
Speaker 1: He's another one that he has gotten better and he's
Speaker 1: put on some weight and kind of gotten stronger, but
Speaker 1: it's still I don't feel that he has the right
Speaker 1: amount of strength just yet. Sometimes you see him going
Speaker 1: into these battles and the guys just like bringing him
Speaker 1: down to the ground. He doesn't have enough power just yet.
Speaker 1: It has not consistently translated to the practice field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I say that as a Taco defender, which I think
Speaker 1: he's looked better than he did as a rookie. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this question. He's not He doesn't look
Speaker 1: like a guy who's making that cliche to jump. Have
Speaker 1: you made Have you made the distinction in your mind
Speaker 1: of when he looks better? Because one thing I think
Speaker 1: I'm noticing I could be wrong about this. One thing
Speaker 1: I think I'm noticing is when I've seen him do
Speaker 1: really well, happens to be when he's going up against
Speaker 1: seventy nine, And so it makes me wonder, is he
Speaker 1: really doing better or is it all reliant? I think
Speaker 1: I notice him do better in team situations like he
Speaker 1: maybe he's just not a one on one guy. Maybe
Speaker 1: he needs somebody to help him run a stunt or
Speaker 1: take some pressure off him. I don't know, he needs
Speaker 1: more power. I'm glad you mentioned I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: seventy nine, though that goes back to my list, which
Speaker 1: clearly I have something in mind. But I want to
Speaker 1: ask y'all the big problem we aren't talking about is
Speaker 1: and when I say that, I like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about safety. We've done that I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about defensive tackle. What I didn't have you
Speaker 1: noticed out here that could be a problem, not I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about. And while y'all think i'll offer up
Speaker 1: and this is one, Oh well, go ahead, I got
Speaker 1: one because I was going to ask you about something else,
Speaker 1: because because Dorin's Armstrong's making some plays and that's good,
Speaker 1: and Gallop's making some plays and going down the line here,
Speaker 1: and Connor Williams is doing some things. Is it a
Speaker 1: problem that Layton vander esh really hasn't stood out yet?
Speaker 1: Or is this is what I keep saying all the
Speaker 1: time about being physical and you can't see these linebackers
Speaker 1: in practice. Maybe we'll see it in the game. So far,
Speaker 1: he's nothing's really standing out from from Layton just yet. Issues.
Speaker 1: I give him the benefit on that because of the game,
Speaker 1: I really do. I give him the benefit too, I
Speaker 1: really do. Like I'm mentally I'm just waiting for games.
Speaker 1: But it is funny that he's asking this question the
Speaker 1: day after Jalen Smith made one of the plays of
Speaker 1: camp that didn't involve a tackle at all, which him
Speaker 1: covering the field. Yea, and you look really good in cover,
Speaker 1: like he was Yeah, impressive. It was impressive. So you
Speaker 1: can you can't stand out as a linebacker for reasons
Speaker 1: other than physicality. Can I give you one? Can I
Speaker 1: give you one answer your question? Yeah? What you guys
Speaker 1: are all concerned about Alan Hearns. I think he started
Speaker 1: off camp and at the beginning of camp I was
Speaker 1: pretty excited. But that's kind of Wayne. Now. Part of
Speaker 1: that's been he's been off the field. He had some
Speaker 1: injury issues. But it's kind of Wayne to little bit
Speaker 1: and it's starting to make me wonder, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit concerned, Not not overly concerned,
Speaker 1: but a little bit concerned because he is expected to
Speaker 1: step in and I guess, for lack of a better
Speaker 1: way to put it, be your top receiver. Um, And
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I've seen enough of those
Speaker 1: kind of plays out here as camp has worn on,
Speaker 1: I'll tell I mean, look at I mean, go down
Speaker 1: the wide receiver depth chart. Everybody that's practiced on a
Speaker 1: regular basis has made at least one, if not a few,
Speaker 1: wild plays. Alan Herns has made some nice plays. He
Speaker 1: hasn't made any plays that make me say wow. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this from from what we've seen them
Speaker 1: in their career, ten being Julio Jones, Odell Beckham. What
Speaker 1: is what would you say one to ten is Cole Beasley?
Speaker 1: This is correct what you're saying. Those two guys are ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those guys are tens. All right? What's what's Beasley? Coals
Speaker 1: of War war? Yeah? Okay, what were you going to say?
Speaker 1: Maybe a little higher than that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: six or seven, But what's what's what is Alan Hearns four? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Marchie Murdock is a is a one
Speaker 1: because he's in the league and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So so that being said, the coals A four last year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm basily a little higher than that. He's
Speaker 1: seventy five cats in a season one year. I mean,
Speaker 1: but that's the thing. And that's the same thing about
Speaker 1: one Alason where he caught more than like forty balls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, both of them are kind of one season
Speaker 1: type ten ten year a pro bowler every year. One
Speaker 1: year you're a camp body and training camp and then
Speaker 1: you's five six whatever. But but my point is is
Speaker 1: what's Terrence Williams same thing? Alan Hearns Deantey Thompson. That's
Speaker 1: my issue is that, like I think they're all going
Speaker 1: to be out there, it's like basketball, like an average team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might score twenty to night, he might score four.
Speaker 1: Maybe if he does score four, he scores twenty. You
Speaker 1: don't have that guy that you could count on. And
Speaker 1: that is what we argued all off season is do
Speaker 1: they really need that in the Mets? That's by design.
Speaker 1: It's by design. And I think equally as by design
Speaker 1: is the fact that whoever, like whoever has the bad
Speaker 1: night isn't going to complain. That's I think that's just
Speaker 1: as crucial as everything else. But the key is somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a good night. Every game. Somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna have to step into that role and have a
Speaker 1: really good day. And can they get that kind of
Speaker 1: consistency as a group, not as a person, but as
Speaker 1: a group that every week somebody's gonna step up and
Speaker 1: make the plays they need to make it a passing game.
Speaker 1: This lineup just seems like it needs. These receivers just
Speaker 1: need an Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady to kind of help them.
Speaker 1: It doesn't need hey, well go get him. What I mean,
Speaker 1: you can eat that, go get it? Why not? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is nerdy as hell. Like I would,
Speaker 1: I would be reluctant to classify this as a big problem.
Speaker 1: But I'm very curious about the back end of the
Speaker 1: offensive line depth chart. Why because I actually loved it,
Speaker 1: the back end of the offensive line depth chart. I'm
Speaker 1: you got your five. Yeah, sure you got more than five,
Speaker 1: you got you got your seven. Just let him go. Okay, sorry, god,
Speaker 1: you're not the host. No no, no, he said, he
Speaker 1: said you got your guy, you got your six because
Speaker 1: of Cam Fleming. You said seven. I assume you mean
Speaker 1: Joe Looney, Yes, I do. Just who are your last three?
Speaker 1: Is my point? Um, you know, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm not so worried about the last three because I
Speaker 1: think where you look at this is if I lose
Speaker 1: any one of my starters, I feel good about that
Speaker 1: next guy, at least for that moment. Now what happens
Speaker 1: beyond that? If I lose two guys that are at
Speaker 1: the same position. Let's say you lose two tackles, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit in trouble. But guess what,
Speaker 1: that's every team sure, like that's the nature of the NFL.
Speaker 1: The NFL set up such that you cannot it's hard
Speaker 1: to sustain a lot of injuries at one position. I
Speaker 1: just feel like the back end of the depth chart
Speaker 1: is a bit redundant because Marcus Martin and Joe Looney
Speaker 1: are essentially the same player. Honestly, I would love it
Speaker 1: if Chas Green was good enough to make this team
Speaker 1: as a fourth tackle, but he hasn't shown that. Who
Speaker 1: is going to be your fourth tackle right now? I
Speaker 1: don't know that they'll have one and he'll just go
Speaker 1: with three. And that's that therein lives my point, Derek,
Speaker 1: because I think we would all agree that O line
Speaker 1: is a great candidate to go short. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: have such talented players, but you also have one player
Speaker 1: that hasn't been able to stay healthy for the last
Speaker 1: few years. But right, yeah, to me, this is this
Speaker 1: is one position where it doesn't matter how many people
Speaker 1: are practicing on the field, whether you have eight, whether
Speaker 1: you have nine, whether you have twelve, because you have
Speaker 1: some practice squad guys. This is about how many guys
Speaker 1: that you're taking to the game. Chads Green can't. You
Speaker 1: can't take him to the game. So I think you've
Speaker 1: got seven seven guys, maybe maybe eight, But I guess
Speaker 1: what you're asking is who's eight. I am, And that's
Speaker 1: my point is Marcus Martin I think will be inactive
Speaker 1: every game. I think he makes a team and he's
Speaker 1: inactive until you need him. But I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: I don't think they can have a I don't think
Speaker 1: they can just go with three, not with what has
Speaker 1: happened with Tyren as far as injuries. So you want
Speaker 1: to carry nine, I think you gotta have who's your
Speaker 1: ninth offensive I don't know, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: it's just like we were talking about tight end. That
Speaker 1: guy may not be on this team yet because I
Speaker 1: don't I think it would be. I think it would
Speaker 1: be a bad decision, based upon what we've seen out
Speaker 1: here this year and based upon what we saw last year,
Speaker 1: for them to go into this season with Chaz Green
Speaker 1: being your four tackle. I agree, Which so at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you agree with me because I
Speaker 1: I don't like their options at tackle after Cam Fleming, right,
Speaker 1: and I don't like the thought of only having three
Speaker 1: tackles on this team, right, and that that makes sense.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is in most scenarios in the NFL.
Speaker 1: If you have three quality tackles, you feel really good
Speaker 1: about where you are. That's the stamp fair offensive mind depth.
Speaker 1: The only issue becomes how healthy can Tyrn be for
Speaker 1: the entire season? That I think is the big issue,
Speaker 1: which and that's going to make this decision. Interest. We
Speaker 1: have every right to be concerned about that. He's looked
Speaker 1: great out here. But forol me once, shame on me, etc.
Speaker 1: I think Chaz Green is absolutely a right tackle only
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have to play tackle. He's a right
Speaker 1: tackle only because he cannot play the left side. If
Speaker 1: he's going to do his thing. Dac needs to see
Speaker 1: it happening, and he is okay. Romo always said that.
Speaker 1: Romo has always told us, right tackle, do not hold.
Speaker 1: I don't need you to hold. I can see what's
Speaker 1: happening and I'll get out of it. Don't hold. I
Speaker 1: want that guy over here. I need this guy protective. Still.
Speaker 1: Somehow he was able to see it and spin out.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, that's that's legitimate. It's a legitimate point.
Speaker 1: What do they do here? Does any of these tackles
Speaker 1: do anything? Bryce Johnson, Jake, nobody on this team tackle wise,
Speaker 1: After Cam Fleming does anything for me. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Broll waiverbire. Yeah, somebody, somebody will come up and you know,
Speaker 1: all right now that now that we've been downers for
Speaker 1: ten minutes, um, now go back up. Give me something
Speaker 1: what is really encouraging that I'll just free read the phrase.
Speaker 1: The silver lining that we aren't talking about is blank,
Speaker 1: something that this team is looking pretty good at that
Speaker 1: we are not dedicating any time too. While y'all think
Speaker 1: I will throw it out there as usual, Chris Jones
Speaker 1: gets no love. I think that is something that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys should always feel good about. It's something that's always
Speaker 1: going to help them out in games. No, not trying
Speaker 1: to throw Dan Bailey under the bus, but Chris Jones
Speaker 1: has not. He has not wavered the way that we've
Speaker 1: seen from Dan recently. And on top of that, I'll
Speaker 1: throw special teams in there because I'm very encouraged by
Speaker 1: what I've seen from Tavon Austin out here, just in
Speaker 1: terms of what he might be able to do as
Speaker 1: a return man and the field position game. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that'll be interesting to watch. I think there's
Speaker 1: a player I don't know if this is the question
Speaker 1: but I think there's a player that we're not talking
Speaker 1: a lot about, but he's I think he's going to
Speaker 1: help them in a lot of ways. And you guys
Speaker 1: can probably finish my point here in my thought, jamaze Olawally,
Speaker 1: I think is going to really help this offense as
Speaker 1: a fullback that can get in there in block, as
Speaker 1: a pass catcher that can kind of do some things
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. He's a leader, he's a special
Speaker 1: teams guy. This guy is going to really he's going
Speaker 1: to be a part of this offense in ways that
Speaker 1: I don't think people are really thinking about right now.
Speaker 1: Caught a touchdown past yesterday and the goal on part
Speaker 1: of practice. I think he's going to be the closest
Speaker 1: thing to a Darryl Johnston type fullback that really is
Speaker 1: a part of the pass catching stuff. Not Darryl early on,
Speaker 1: but later in his career when he was catching a
Speaker 1: lot of passes but still able to mix it up
Speaker 1: in there. I hope you're right because I always said
Speaker 1: and thought that Keith Smith had deceptively good hands. I agree,
Speaker 1: and they never really gave him a chance to showcase
Speaker 1: it all right, they didn't. He's a good athlete. He
Speaker 1: was a good athlete for a tight end as well,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of shocked that they didn't use
Speaker 1: him more and more diverse situations. But you know, for
Speaker 1: whatever reason they didn't, You got anything I do not.
Speaker 1: I'm looking up and down this roster and I think
Speaker 1: we've done. That's the funny that I think we've talked
Speaker 1: about all of it. The one thing that's still kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, we've talked a little a good amount
Speaker 1: about it. But I think a silver lining for me
Speaker 1: at least, is I think there is some significant depth
Speaker 1: in the secondary this year, and I think I feel
Speaker 1: really good about where the secondary is right now. Now
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we get into some games and
Speaker 1: they give up some touchdowns and that can change. But
Speaker 1: right now, what I've seen out here, I feel like,
Speaker 1: matching up against some of the wide receivers you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to match up with this year, I feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about where the Cowboys are. That to me is
Speaker 1: a bit of a silver line, because I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to expect coming into camp. Even though we've been
Speaker 1: dogging the receivers for the last ten minutes. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: at that though, you still got to make the plays.
Speaker 1: And I've said that before, Like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: times we've seen cornerbacks on this team where you know,
Speaker 1: they get in position, they have really good coverage and
Speaker 1: the receiver either still catches a ball or they can't
Speaker 1: manage to get the interception. We've seen him make some
Speaker 1: really big plays, some really good plays out here, I think.
Speaker 1: So I still think that you still have to do
Speaker 1: the job even if the receivers aren't great, and even
Speaker 1: if the passing isn't great. Gonna hate me for this
Speaker 1: one because I'm getting ahead of myself, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: Last thing before we go. The main thing I want
Speaker 1: to see Thursday night in San Francisco is blank, okay, um.
Speaker 1: I want to see the defense get off the field early.
Speaker 1: I want to see them make some stops because I
Speaker 1: think that unit will probably be the one unit that
Speaker 1: has the closest to the starters. I could see more
Speaker 1: starters playing on defense than on offense, and so the
Speaker 1: first drive of the game or whatever. I don't know,
Speaker 1: anythink Jimmy G's gonna be playing for them Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just get off, get off the field.
Speaker 1: I want to see that that right there, that that
Speaker 1: because I remember some of the other games we've seen
Speaker 1: where the Rams took the ball and went down the
Speaker 1: field maybe two years in a row or something. But
Speaker 1: that's that's really the closest thing to like what this
Speaker 1: team is going to be about. Unless you want to
Speaker 1: say Dan Bailey making kicks, that would be nice. I
Speaker 1: want to see one of these tight ends step up
Speaker 1: and makes some plays in the passing game. That's what
Speaker 1: exactly what I was about to say. You don't have
Speaker 1: anyone that's proven necessarily aside from Jeoff Sway. That is Jeff.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the issue. His name is Jeff. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you're calling him that makes me think
Speaker 1: this he needs to proves of thing is I always
Speaker 1: call I've always called him Jeoff Sways Jeff sw Yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyways, point is the tight ends um are gonna
Speaker 1: have to take advantage of this time and kind of
Speaker 1: prove something because otherwise maybe the Cowboys I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: to bring someone. I'm gonna be looking at all tight ends.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking at the number forty eight for
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He makes a play in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarterbilling looking at all tight ends no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: If both Scarbrough makes some plays with the line that's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be blocking for him for most of this game,
Speaker 1: then I'll start to buy the hype a little bit.
Speaker 1: And he flashed yesterday, not just on the goal line,
Speaker 1: but he want to compete Grill. It seems like he's
Speaker 1: getting better the more reps he gets, because he's not
Speaker 1: getting a lot. But we all took him a while though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're about to say the same Argu'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: see it say say exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: None of that matters unless if he can go down
Speaker 1: on special teams, can't play special teams. But it's always
Speaker 1: the case these receivers. They get judged by who can catch,
Speaker 1: who can block? I mean who can yeah, who can
Speaker 1: block down the field and all that. But the guy
Speaker 1: that makes the team is the guy that can tackle, yep,
Speaker 1: the guy that can run. If anybody runs down that
Speaker 1: field and jars the ball loose in a fumble on
Speaker 1: a punt coverage, all of a sudden he just goes
Speaker 1: And now Keith though Quinn's like, whoa what about this guy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So bart bo Scarboro, good runner, big strong, powerful, go
Speaker 1: down there, make a huge tackle on special teams and
Speaker 1: now you're pretty much on the fifth. And I actually
Speaker 1: heard I was watching a NFL network the other day
Speaker 1: and there was I can't remember who it was, it
Speaker 1: was a special teams or it was either a head
Speaker 1: coach or special teams coach that was talking in an
Speaker 1: interview um and he said, Hey, I really believe with
Speaker 1: the changes that they've made where you can't have the
Speaker 1: wedges and stuff like that, what you're gonna start to
Speaker 1: see is special teams that don't have the big guys
Speaker 1: out there at all, which put the premium now on linebackers, receivers,
Speaker 1: running backs, guys like that that can actually run down
Speaker 1: and actually make a tackle. So that's how you have
Speaker 1: to make the team, is being able to actually play
Speaker 1: special teams. You're not one of the starters. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be able to play on special teams. And
Speaker 1: I think that becomes even more of a premium now
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see those transitions to those units. It'll
Speaker 1: be fun to actually get to watch that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know they don't really do they do special teams,
Speaker 1: but it ain't it ain't live. So that's something to
Speaker 1: watch that was a job today day, all the time
Speaker 1: we have on Cowboys Break. Thank you, Derek. We'll be
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