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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour in.

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Speaker 2: This Thursday, like Tahoe the American Century Golf Championship, beautiful

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Speaker 2: day here, it's just like you know, rinse, repeat and

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Speaker 2: same thing, because every day it feels like it's forty

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Speaker 2: eighty degrees in sunny at around ten thirty. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Matt Ryan, a former quarterback analyst. Now join us

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Speaker 2: in a moment here eight seven seven to three DP

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Speaker 2: show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show.

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Speaker 2: I got some information on the college football playoffs for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Dean Sanders talked yesterday at the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve media day about college football needing a salary cap.

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Speaker 2: You have a salary cap. The problem is there's always

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Speaker 2: going to be illegal payments here, collectibles, you know, collectives there.

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Speaker 2: They're always there's always going to be that possibility that

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Speaker 2: doesn't go away just because there's nil not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But I'll bring back what Dion said yesterday, and then

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Speaker 2: I got some information on twenty twenty six with the

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Speaker 2: proposed sixteen team playoff. We say good morning. If you're

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Speaker 2: we make way for Matty Ice And I ran into

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Speaker 2: him last night and he said, I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: telling all kinds of stories when I join you on

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Speaker 2: the program. Is Matt ready to go? Paul? Yes, we

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Speaker 2: need to escort Matt Ryan up here. How about a

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Speaker 2: round of applause for the man they call Matty eyes

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Speaker 2: tall and lean. Yes, yeah, how were we doing?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 2: Looks like he's dropped like fifteen twenty pounds. You're just

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Speaker 2: a we see this with offensive and defensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, just.

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Speaker 4: Not as muscular, a little softer around the edges, but

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Speaker 4: a little lighter.

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Speaker 2: But did you try to purposely bulk up when I played?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: For me, it was always difficult to keep the weight

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Speaker 4: on just by kind of you know, my frame or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was work to try.

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Speaker 4: And get to two twenty two seventeen is what I

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Speaker 4: played at and I probably way about two or five now.

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Speaker 2: So but you just see quarterbacks like rag dolls. But

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Speaker 2: then you see those quarterbacks in person, and like Trevor

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Speaker 2: Lawrence is a big guy, no doubt you've seen him

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 4: I mean Trevor is I mean he is put together, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and just broad shouldered big. And you know we were

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Speaker 4: talking about Cam Newton last night too, same thing.

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Speaker 3: Played against him in Division.

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Speaker 4: I remember meeting him for the first time and being like,

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Speaker 4: we played the same position.

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Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: He looks like the dns that I go against.

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Speaker 4: So yes, yeah, it's it's there's some some big guys,

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Speaker 4: but you know I was able to do it pretty

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Speaker 4: well at my size and made it.

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Speaker 3: Work for me.

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Speaker 2: But is there you know you see Peyton and Brady

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Speaker 2: and they would kind of go in the fetal position

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Speaker 2: if they were going to be sacked. Yeah that's okay,

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Speaker 4: Listen, Your your best ability is availability right when you

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Speaker 4: can play. Yeah, so Tom and Peyton they kind of

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Speaker 3: I you know, I was kind of in.

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Speaker 4: That era of quarterbacks just right after them. Right, So

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Speaker 4: I had watched them play in the NFL for seven

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Speaker 4: eight years, nine years before I got there, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, played. I guess Tom played longer than me.

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Speaker 4: He still was playing after I was done.

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Speaker 2: But do you think he could still play?

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Speaker 3: I think he could.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the way he takes care of himself,

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Speaker 4: it looks like like he looks he looks more fit

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Speaker 4: now than he's ever ever been. And so, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think the style with which he played leads

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Speaker 4: not having to run do all those types of different things.

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Speaker 4: Because he could still throw it. I mean, he could

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Speaker 2: Uh Matt sacked five hundred times, palling.

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Speaker 6: Four hundred and eighty eight times he was sacked in

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Speaker 2: But you were still pretty good? Look at you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still feel pretty good. I can still swing

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Speaker 3: the golf club, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Is there one that stands out?

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Speaker 3: One sack that stands out?

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Speaker 4: I mean they all kind of run together when you

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Speaker 4: get about five hundred of them, but uh, I'd say

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Speaker 4: the sack fumble in the Super Bowl is probably the

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Speaker 4: one that listen. I think sometimes I think sometimes you

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Speaker 6: Right, you're the guy.

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Speaker 2: You just got to go and go in front of him.

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Speaker 4: So if you're asking me about one of them, Dan,

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Speaker 4: I would probably say that's the one I would like

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Speaker 4: to have not been sacked on. But anyhow, what else

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Speaker 4: do you guys want to talk about?

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Speaker 2: Football?

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Speaker 3: Playoff?

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Speaker 2: What was what was that play called? So you're in

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Speaker 2: the huddle and you call that play, what is it?

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't remember the exact play

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Speaker 4: call offhand. I'm always amazed some of these guys that

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Speaker 2: Off the Your guy's memories have to be it's.

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Speaker 4: It's really good. I remember the situation. I remember what

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Speaker 4: the route we had going on. We had Aldric Robin

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Speaker 4: trying to hang on for that extra second give him

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Speaker 3: Make a play.

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Speaker 2: But would that have been a touchdown?

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Speaker 4: It would have been a chunk. I think there was

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Speaker 4: a chance, but it would have been a chunk play

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Speaker 2: But you don't remember the call, but I can't remember it.

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Speaker 4: It was a designer what we call designer calls, So

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Speaker 4: it was like a specific play for that week, for

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Speaker 2: Give us give us a call though that wo might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's I'm trying to think of staple plays,

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Speaker 4: want to a pass play.

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Speaker 3: So you know we'd have like west rd.

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Speaker 2: That's one play.

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Speaker 3: That's one play, and so.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean it's I heard you read the

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Speaker 4: little script coming on here. That was more impressive to

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Speaker 4: me than calling a play. Right now that I've done

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Speaker 4: far more difficult than than regurgitating a play.

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Speaker 2: Called Matt Ryan joining us on the program. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: start to think about making the transition. When did you

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Speaker 3: You know, I had listen.

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Speaker 4: I've always had fun coming on shows with you or

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Speaker 4: and I enjoyed it, but I really didn't think about

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Speaker 3: My last year in Indy.

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Speaker 4: Was a difficult year for the organization, for myself, for

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: After that, I got back to Atlanta after that season

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Speaker 3: My wife was pregnant.

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Speaker 4: With my youngest son at the time, and it seemed like,

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Speaker 4: and home, and that's where we started to explore some options.

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Speaker 4: I was really lucky got hired by CBS called Games

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Speaker 4: for the first year, which was an absolute blast, a

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Speaker 4: ton of fun doing that, and then moved into the

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Speaker 4: than I thought. It wasn't something like I was planning

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Speaker 4: as a player, this is it, this is where I'm

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, wondering about this though. When you

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Speaker 2: get towards the end of when do you know you're

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Speaker 3: There were a handful of times in India I knew it.

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Speaker 2: Was this is probably it okay? But was it because

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 4: I still think I had gas left in the tank

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Speaker 4: right to be able to play. That year was a

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Speaker 4: coming in and I got benched and then came back

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Speaker 4: in Atlanta. She was there kind of visiting with doctors

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Speaker 4: there and they were back and forth, that whole kind

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like a wake up.

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Speaker 4: It was just kind of a slow drip to you know,

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Speaker 4: and I think my life's moving in a different direction.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever think about trying to join the Eagles?

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Speaker 3: I no, never, seriously.

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Speaker 4: I grew up but like I played against them enough

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Speaker 4: that they soon did not become my team, right, so

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Speaker 4: we you know, it's stuff like the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Could I have played for the Steelers? Uh? Yeah, Like.

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Speaker 4: I think your allegiances, your childhood allegiances, Yeah, go out

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Speaker 4: the wayside the minute you get drafted or you get

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Speaker 4: you know, you put into a building. And so particularly

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Speaker 4: I think when you play for an organization as long

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Speaker 4: as I did in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: You know, my we got a little chipmunk running around there. Yes,

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Speaker 2: We had dog go fers had I'm sniffing dogs up

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Speaker 2: there earlier. Yeah, we got it all.

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Speaker 3: Going to love it, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We're talking to Matt Ryan. I was wondering about

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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins in the situation that he's in now. He

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Speaker 2: said he was kind of blindsided with the whole Michael

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Speaker 2: Pennix raft pit. What do you do in a situation now?

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Speaker 2: You can't feel sorry for him from the standpoint of

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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars guaranteed. Sure, but he does want

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Speaker 2: to play. Yeah, I don't know if he no other

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Speaker 2: team was interested because of the one hundred million dollars guarantee.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that is Listen, I get both

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Speaker 2: It didn't quite shake out that way. But I think

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Speaker 2: Well, you look at Eli. Eli's numbers are average clutch clutch, Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 4: Everybody in, man, I'll put everybody in there.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to that statement.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who's the best quarterback in regular season? Quarterback? Who

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Speaker 4: It's a great question. I think you probably still have

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Speaker 8: You know, all of your dreams are because when you

445
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Speaker 8: made it to the NFL, I mean, that's crazy enough.

446
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Speaker 8: But then now you're in the Super Bowl and you're rolling,

447
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Speaker 8: you're cooking, You're absolutely destroying the Patriots, you know, I

448
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Speaker 8: mean that must just be crushing.

449
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Speaker 6: Yes, exactly. You threw four sixty three.

450
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Speaker 9: Thousand yards, three hundred and eighty win touchdowns, Pro Bowl

451
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Speaker 9: and multiple Pro Bowls MVP. You're two plays away from

452
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Speaker 9: taking top down Tom Brady and cruising to the Hall

453
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Speaker 9: of Fame, and it was that tenuous.

454
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Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what, when it comes to the

455
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, everybody's gonna have fifty thousand yards. The

456
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Speaker 2: MVP helps being, you know, being in the Super Bowl helps,

457
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Speaker 2: He's likable, he's in the media. Yeah, you know, I'm glad.

458
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Speaker 2: I don't have I stressed enough when I was voting

459
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Speaker 2: on NBA Awards. I cannot imagine the Hall of Fame

460
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Speaker 2: and just the pressure that you have.

461
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Speaker 10: Yeah, Marvin, it's funny how two like one game can

462
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Speaker 10: separate you from being a Hall of Famer or not.

463
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Speaker 2: But should one play separate you? Because if he doesn't

464
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Speaker 2: have the sack fumble, they probably kick a field goal

465
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Speaker 2: and they win that game. So can one play help you?

466
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Speaker 2: Can one play hurt you getting into the Hall of

467
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Speaker 2: Fame camp on?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it shouldn't be that tenuous. It shouldn't be one

469
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Speaker 9: play away. It's like you're ignoring everything else. If you

470
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Speaker 9: compare regular season stats Matt Ryan to Eli Manning, it's

471
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Speaker 9: not that close.

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Speaker 6: Matt's much better.

473
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Speaker 2: Eli wasn't a good I mean, his numbers are just average. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 2: he was played a long time, but he he didn't

475
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Speaker 2: lead the league in any category but interceptions. But he

476
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Speaker 2: won two of the biggest games in NFL history.

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Speaker 10: Yes, marm if Eli Manning beats Philip Rivers and Ben

478
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Speaker 10: Roethlisberger in his two Super Bowl wins.

479
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Speaker 2: Is he a Hall of Famer? Probably? It's New York.

480
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Speaker 2: It's New York name, and you know, two super Bowls

481
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Speaker 2: aside from what Jim Plunkett. Jim Plunkett would be in

482
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Speaker 2: the Football Hall of Fame if I include what he

483
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Speaker 2: did at Stanford winning a Heisman. But he did win

484
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Speaker 2: two super Bowls. Yeah, I seed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it does feel like, yeah, you got one, okay

486
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Speaker 8: in a band, but to get two that's a whole

487
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Speaker 8: different thing.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, it is, and it's painful for me

489
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Speaker 2: to go down a painful road for him because I'm

490
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Speaker 2: sure it doesn't want to talk about this, and that's

491
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Speaker 2: why he brought it up. But I do appreciate getting

492
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Speaker 2: out in front of something and Okay, it happened. It's

493
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Speaker 2: you know, it's there the elephants in the room. Go ahead.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Marvin, if you're Matt Ryan, would you rather have

495
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Speaker 10: lost that game twenty eight to ten being up twenty

496
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Speaker 10: eight three.

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Speaker 2: Mid third quarter? Too? It was like twenty eight three

498
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Speaker 2: in the first quarter. Okay, if I'm gonna lose the game,

499
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Speaker 2: do I want to lose it where we really are

500
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Speaker 2: not a factor in the game, or do I want

501
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Speaker 2: to lose it where we're up twenty eight to three.

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Speaker 2: I probably want to lose twenty eight ten. Yeah, I

503
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Speaker 2: think I just want them. Well, they were just a

504
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Speaker 2: better team that day. Yes, you know, they were just

505
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Speaker 2: better than us, But the Falcons know they were a

506
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Speaker 2: better team that day. Definitely. And Julio Jones catch, yes, yeah, yep,

507
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Speaker 2: that would have been one of the greatest, one of

508
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Speaker 2: the greatest catches in Super Bowl history because they would

509
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Speaker 2: have won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 8: Which is sort of to your point about Matt Ryan

511
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Speaker 8: and does that one play keep you out of the

512
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl? That that catch was great regardless, but it's

513
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Speaker 8: the plays that happened after that catch that diminished that

514
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Speaker 8: one's greatness. That's very strange.

515
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Speaker 2: But it's like curse Kurse had that great grab on

516
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Speaker 2: the ground. Yeah, and if Russell Wilson, you know, they

517
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Speaker 2: get a touchdown, then you'll remember that play.

518
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Speaker 8: It's like identical scenarios just about yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, going back to Russell Wilson, well, Jalen Hurts had

520
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Speaker 10: that same type of situation where people will kind of

521
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Speaker 10: diminish what he did because he had such a great

522
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Speaker 10: defense in a great running game.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's not a great regular season quarterback. I mean

524
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Speaker 2: his numbers are kind of average. Well, I mean Russell Wilson.

525
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Speaker 10: Russell Wilson wasn't setting the world on fire during the

526
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Speaker 10: lesion of Boom Era.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of big years there. I don't know

528
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Speaker 2: if Jalen Hurts is going to have those kind of years.

529
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if he throws what did

530
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Speaker 2: Russ throw for like thirty five touchdowns a couple of.

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Speaker 6: Times once led the league with thirty five touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think Jalen Hurts is going to

533
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Speaker 2: do that. But you know, we I value leadership as well.

534
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Speaker 2: If I look back old school that there's a reason

535
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Speaker 2: why Bart stars in the Hall of Fame, Uh, you know,

536
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Speaker 2: Bob Greasy, Johnny United is like there is leadership qualities

537
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Speaker 2: to that, and I think Jalen Hurts as that. But

538
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's not something tangible where if I'm

539
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Speaker 2: voting and I go, yeah, but he was a great leader,

540
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Speaker 2: Like we throw that out And I don't know if

541
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Speaker 2: we even know what a leader is. I just know

542
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Speaker 2: he's really good for that team. He's the right quarterback

543
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Speaker 2: for that team.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Mark, So Jalen Hurts and the Eagles win the

545
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Speaker 10: Super Bowl next year.

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Speaker 2: He's probably going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah.

547
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Speaker 2: Some guys we look at your stants because we have

548
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Speaker 2: to look at your stants. Other guys we look at

549
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Speaker 2: accomplishments instead of just mann he threw for five thousand yards.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but it does feel like we're entering an era,

551
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Speaker 8: or in an era of quarterback uncertainty where you could

552
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Speaker 8: see somebody getting their second and it's still not being

553
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Speaker 8: good enough. Well, that person would be Jalen Hurt. That

554
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Speaker 8: person would be Jalen Hurts. Which is unfair, It's very unfair.

555
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Speaker 8: But the way that we sort of dissect and judge

556
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Speaker 8: quarterbacks week by week, No, you can be an MVP

557
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Speaker 8: one week and then overrated the next, and then a

558
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Speaker 8: Super Bowl champion and then not a Hall of Famer

559
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Speaker 8: and then all within the same breath.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds strange to say Joe Burrow feels more

561
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Speaker 2: like a Hall of Famer than Jalen Hurts. Does, and

562
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Speaker 2: it's not fair to Jalen Hurts because he's not asked

563
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Speaker 2: to throw forty touchdowns. He doesn't have to. But Jalen Hurts,

564
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Speaker 2: you know, even the Super Bowl they lost, he could

565
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Speaker 2: have been the MVP. He was that good. He had

566
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Speaker 2: the one fumble, so he's played well. And isn't that

567
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Speaker 2: the ultimate compliment test question for a quarterback? How do

568
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Speaker 2: you play in a big game?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, poling, Jalen Hurts could be on the path that

570
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Speaker 9: Troy Aikman was on. I know it's a little apples

571
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Speaker 9: and oranges, but Troy Aikman his best season was twenty

572
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Speaker 9: three touchdown passes. He usually had about fifteen a year.

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Speaker 9: Troy Aikman has half as many touchdown passes in his

574
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Speaker 9: career as Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 6: But three rings. It's and with the Cowboys green light.

576
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Speaker 2: Well yeah, that trump's everybody when you're winning with the

577
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Speaker 2: Cowboys and the way they were winning. But even then,

578
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: you know they really had to share the spotlight. Now,

579
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Speaker 2: Emmett's you know, the all time leader. You had Mike there,

580
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: you had personalities, you had coaches, Jimmy Johnson, you had

581
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Speaker 2: an owner, and like Troy just did what he was

582
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Speaker 2: asked to do. I think if you said to Troy, hey,

583
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Speaker 2: you can throw for forty five touchdowns, you're gonna make

584
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Speaker 2: the playoffs, but you're not gonna win a super Bowl,

585
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Speaker 2: or you can throw twenty three, you're gonna take that.

586
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if they they didn't change their

587
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: game plan. Now today's Cowboys with that talent, Emittt's not

588
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Speaker 2: the all time leading rusher, and Troy may have one

589
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Speaker 2: hundred more touchdown passes because he would have to have

590
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Speaker 2: that many. Yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 9: A guy who might be going that direction is Justin

592
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Speaker 9: Herbert from the Chargers. His stats were noticeably down last

593
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Speaker 9: year in touchdown and yardage. His quarterback rating was way up.

594
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Speaker 9: They're going to run the ball with Jim Harbaugh and

595
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Speaker 9: he may get to a Super Bowl with forty two

596
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Speaker 9: hundred yards and twenty five touchdowns, which would be great.

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Speaker 2: I want to bring this up. I mentioned the top

598
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Speaker 2: of the hour Dean Sanders. He was at the Big

599
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Speaker 2: twelve press conference and he was talking about what college

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Speaker 2: football needs.

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Speaker 11: All you have to do is look at the playoffs

602
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Speaker 11: and see what those teams spent, and you understand Darning

603
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Speaker 11: and White in the playoffs it's kind of hard to

604
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Speaker 11: compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars

605
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Speaker 11: of durn freshman class. We're not complaining because all these

606
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Speaker 11: coaches up here. A coach at bucks off and given

607
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Speaker 11: the right opportunity with the right players and play here

608
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 11: and there, you'll be there. But it's what's going on

609
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Speaker 11: right now don't make sense, and we want to say stuff,

610
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Speaker 11: but we're trying to be professional. But you're going to

611
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Speaker 11: see the same teams darned at the end, and with

612
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Speaker 11: somebody who sneaks up in there. But the team that

613
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Speaker 11: pays the more, pays the most, is gonna be then in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is no secret. There is a salary cap,

615
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't stomp you know, collectives or boosters from

616
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Speaker 2: getting money. It's just going to be under the table.

617
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Speaker 2: It'll be back to the way it was years ago

618
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Speaker 2: when you paid people under the table you got nil.

619
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Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter. You can pay through NI. There's

620
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Speaker 2: way too many windows, way, way way too many windows.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this five and eleven five plus eleven.

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Speaker 2: What I'm told is that'll be the format in twenty

623
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Speaker 2: twenty six. That's expected to be the format for the

624
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Speaker 2: playoffs in college football, where you get the five highest

625
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Speaker 2: rank conference champions, they get an automatic bid. The remaining

626
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Speaker 2: eleven spots would be filled by at large selections chosen

627
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Speaker 2: by the College Football Selection Committee. So it's five plus

628
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Speaker 2: eleven Big twelve at ACC they love it. The Big

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Speaker 2: Ten and SEC do not. They would like to propose

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Speaker 2: a model that would include four automatic qualifiers for the

631
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Speaker 2: Big Ten in four for the SEC, so they would

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Speaker 2: get half of the bids in a sixteen team playoff. Now,

633
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: once again talking to my source today, the five plus

634
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Speaker 2: eleven model will win out when the college football playoff

635
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Speaker 2: goes to sixteen teams. Also, the revenue share that's in

636
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Speaker 2: place has little chance of succeeding. It's opened the door

637
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Speaker 2: to excessive payments by collectives and going forward these payments

638
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: will be under the table and not reported. So that's

639
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Speaker 2: according to my college football source, probably looking at the

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Speaker 2: five plus eleven ACC, Big twelve or all for it,

641
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Speaker 2: whereas the SEC and Big Ten go we would like

642
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Speaker 2: half of the bids for the sixteen team playoff.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Pom Dan, maybe they call it five plus ten

644
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Speaker 9: plus Notre Dame, because that's how it's going to be

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Speaker 9: Notre Dame gets nine plus wins, they will put them in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah they will, but that it's going to happen.

647
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Speaker 2: I was told that they're probably going to expand morech

648
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Speaker 2: Madness as well. I thought we were going to have

649
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Speaker 2: something either last week or this week, but that's what

650
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Speaker 2: I was told. I don't know if they're going to

651
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Speaker 2: seventy two or seventy six, but I mean, I understand it.

652
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Speaker 2: This is about money, that's all. Because the teams that

653
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Speaker 2: you're adding have no chance of winning the title none.

654
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Speaker 2: I give you're the seventy first best team, You're not winning.

655
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Speaker 2: Now you might make a run, make it interesting, but

656
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: this is this is about there's a certain amount of

657
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Speaker 2: teams that can win, and then there's a certain amount

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Speaker 2: of teams that can give you a storyline. Because every

659
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: March we have a storyline or two and you go,

660
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, they're making a run. Oh that player,

661
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know he was that good. Then it gets

662
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: down to the Elite eight Final four and then you go, okay, guys,

663
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: you take over. That's what March Madness has become. So look,

664
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: if they want to have a bigger I just don't

665
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: like the play in games, you're either in the tournament

666
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: or you're not. You know, I think it's kind of hey,

667
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: you kind of made it, but you didn't. But if

668
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: you win, then you're in. And it's like going to

669
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: a party, but you don't get to go inside. You're

670
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: outside and I'll sneak your drinks and then all of

671
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: a sudden, you go, hey, we got a spot in here.

672
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: You know Tommy left. You get to go into the

673
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: house party.

674
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, Paulin the one thing though about the playing game,

675
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 9: it allows them to expand the tournament and not change

676
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 9: the tournament structure of sixty four. So they'll add playing games,

677
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 9: the pre tournament games, and then you'll still start the

678
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 9: tournament on that Thursday with sixty four teams, and you'll

679
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 9: still have that same bracket look and the same sixteen

680
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 9: seed one seed. That's what these playing games allows.

681
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, Mark, going forward, and I've always hated this, those

682
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 10: small those sixteen seeds that are playing Alabama A and

683
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 10: M against Corpus Christy A and M playing in Dayton. No, no, no, no,

684
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 10: those should be for the bubble teams that just got

685
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 10: in Providence versus you know, Ole miss. Those people should

686
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 10: be in Dayton not the guys that won their tournament.

687
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: If you win your tournament, you should be so you're

688
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: in the bubble teams could be the play in if

689
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: you want to, or those first two nights.

690
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 8: Yes see, right, but maybe there is a way where

691
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 8: you start it, like even before the season ends, right,

692
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 8: there's a way that you could do a tournament like

693
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 8: that where it runs throughout the entire season, the actual

694
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 8: basketball season, so you're play your conference games or non

695
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 8: conference games, and then the actual tournament too, where if

696
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 8: you won your say your conference last year, you've already

697
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 8: qualified to be in the tournament this next year. Oh

698
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 8: so you sort of likee you win your way in

699
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 8: by say, the year before, and then that would actually

700
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 8: help because you know you're already in the tournament.

701
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: That helps you with recruiting.

702
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 8: So like the smaller schools like that, they would be

703
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 8: able to compete more. Possibly I'm just spitball, I'm just

704
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 8: throwing this out, but it's you might be able to

705
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 8: recruit better knowing that you're already in the tournament next year.

706
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 8: That helps you get a better caliber player, and then

707
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 8: that helps level the playing field a little bit more

708
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 8: compared to the people that are spending that much money.

709
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just gonna have the haves in the have nons.

710
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: It's just that's the way life. You know, the same

711
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: schools are going to be spending the same amount, they're

712
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: going to spend more than other. It won't happen until

713
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: everybody has a level playing field with schedules. Certainly with

714
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: college football, that's where you go. You're gonna play X

715
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: number of teams in your division and then you'll play

716
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: that division. It'll be the NFL model. And until you

717
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: get that, everything is subjective. I mean, I don't know

718
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: how good Arizona State or Boise State were. I love

719
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: that they got the opportunity. They shouldn't have been an

720
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: automatic qualifier. But you know, college football is, it's fluid.

721
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: It's still moving of trying to figure out because everybody

722
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: now realizes the amount of money that's at stake here

723
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: and how they had their heads in the sand for

724
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: so many years, where hey, it's going to be this

725
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: school and this school for the national title, and then

726
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be no, we're gonna okay, we'll do four

727
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: teams and I go. As soon as you guys look

728
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: at the bottom line, you're gonna go how many teams

729
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: do we want to have here? And now we're going

730
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 2: to go up to sixteen probably next year. Take a break,

731
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in

732
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? And a reminder celebrity family feud tonight. Hope

733
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: you're having a watch party to watch us taking on

734
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: the Rich Eisen Show. We're back after this.

735
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

736
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

737
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

738
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, What we learn, what's in

739
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: store tomorrow? All that coming up, It flies by quickly,

740
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: and uh, it's fun to have people here coming off

741
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: the driving range or you know, if they're on the

742
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: putting green, And uh, yeah, I was just wondering favorite

743
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: favorite moment of today, PAULI go first.

744
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 9: Oh, it's a tough one, but I'm going to go

745
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 9: with when we had Grant Hill on today. You know,

746
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 9: I'm getting more into these days, not Michael Jordan's stories.

747
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 9: I feel like I've heard them all, Kobe Bryant's stories,

748
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 9: and now that Kobe's gone, when I hear Kobe Bryant

749
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 9: stories a lot of them are the same about his

750
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 9: competitive nature, and Grant said, we were practice number two

751
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 9: a team USA.

752
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 6: And Kobe's like, let's go. Let's He's like, let's go,

753
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 6: and it's practice. And I'm fascinated by Kobe Bryant. I

754
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 6: love the stories, but.

755
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't think you can you can play. Don't you

756
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: can turn it off or have it on just a

757
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 2: little bit. I think the light is either really bright

758
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: or it's off. I was always amazed with Troy Polamalo.

759
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 2: Whenever we have him on. He was the most soft,

760
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: low key person, and then you see him on a

761
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: football field and he's maniacal. He's all over the place.

762
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: That ability, Like, I envy those people who can turn

763
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: it off. It's the people Michael Jordan can't turn it off.

764
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: He's that's the way he is on the court. Off

765
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: the court, I mean, he's he's going to be able

766
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: to kind of use that and he's going to kill you.

767
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: He's going to go out now, Lebron. It feels like

768
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: on the court and he's one person. Off the court,

769
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: he's somebody else. And maybe Kobe was like that outside

770
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: of basketball. You know your father, you've got daughters, you

771
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: know you can't be that competitive guy, but you're just

772
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: around certain people like Grant Hill could not be nicer.

773
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: But then he was saying, you know, don't don't mistake

774
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: niceness for weakness, and I thought it was a great line.

775
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: Your favorite moment, Marvin, You know what, just seeing Grant Hill.

776
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 10: Grant Hill has one of those interesting careers where he's

777
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 10: a Hall of Famer, but there's still a what if

778
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 10: quality because even after the show or after his segment,

779
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 10: we talked about what he was the first maybe five

780
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 10: or six years in Detroit where he was a top

781
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 10: five player in the league. And I don't know, people

782
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 10: are going to kill me for this. He was Lebron

783
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 10: before Lebron six' eight and could do. Everything So Grant

784
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 10: hill is my.

785
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: Favorite, yeah he still battles with that, ankle you know

786
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean you could see. It it looks. Swollen. Yeah,

787
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: yeah and you're right he, SAID i had three. CAREERS

788
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: i had a pretty high level and THEN i was

789
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: kind of in that middle and then at the End

790
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: i'm kind of hanging. On but, yeah you, know talking

791
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: about those moments and you don't realize you see some

792
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: of those highlights and all of a sudden it's, like,

793
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: yeah it's. Right and you know he was gonna be

794
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: the Next. Jordan that was the big. Thing everybody was

795
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: the Next, Jordan jasey, McGrady the Next, Jordan Penny, hardaway

796
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: the Next. Jordan there was there's no Next. Jordan like

797
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: when they wanted to Do Anthony. EDWARDS i go, stop

798
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: just just. Stop he could be the Next. Jordan no he's.

799
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: Not he might be the First Anthony. Edwards that would

800
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: be good. Enough don't have to be.

801
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: THAT i could.

802
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: Stop.

803
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 10: Yes and the funny thing Is Grant hill's rookie year

804
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 10: was ninety, four ninety. Five jordan wasn't in the league.

805
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 10: Anymore So Grant hill got up the superstar status right

806
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 10: away because we're looking for a, guy good, looking, guy

807
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 10: clean cut and could.

808
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: Play, yeah you know it was me for HIM a

809
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: seating favorite.

810
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 8: Moment, well the ones of those guys just had were,

811
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 8: really really.

812
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: GOOD i really Enjoyed Grant hill a.

813
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 8: LOT i think THE i was you know, WHAT i

814
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 8: really like the miz he uh that was like a

815
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 8: big SUPER i don't know a lot about. HIM i

816
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 8: don't really follow. WRESTLING i do actually remember him FROM,

817
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 8: mtv believe it or. Not but he, uh he just

818
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 8: had a certain enthusiasm for life and like a zest

819
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 8: for life that was really. INFECTIOUS i was, like, dang,

820
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 8: MAN i hope that dude does it really well in.

821
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: Life you, know he he doesn't have anybody around. Him

822
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: he's out on the driving range or playing. Go there's

823
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: NO pr team or. Anything he's a WALKING pr. Machine

824
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: And i'm not the big wrestling, fan But i'm a

825
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: fan of somebody who bet on themselves and became something

826
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: he was on the real, world and then all of

827
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: a sudden creates a character and then for five years

828
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: learns how to develop the character and be a, wrestler

829
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: and then all of a, sudden you're Fighting John cena

830
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: at ww.

831
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 8: Title like he could have just as easily been a

832
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 8: character from Like jackass or something, too you know where

833
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 8: you're like him And Johnny knoxville are run, around you,

834
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 8: know hitting each other in the nuts or. Something he

835
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 8: could have done that, too but, he like what he's

836
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 8: been able to accomplish to your point is.

837
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: Remarkable, YEAH i like that. Dude let me bring in

838
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: al In california Or. CALIFORNIA i l.

839
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: Day By Jay zy My, Man beautiful day out here In. TAHOE.

840
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 5: I it is a bucket. Listing everybody has to check this.

841
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: Out last night playing craps With Zach levine excuse, me

842
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 5: and and blackjack with the guys from part of my,

843
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 5: Take but the highlight of the night has to be

844
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 5: learning bubble craps FROM.

845
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Mf dylan And Pa. Ray it. Was it was. Awesome thank,

846
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: You thank you. All, Yeah dylan's been out and about

847
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: with his Friend. Ray. Yeah so glad They're i'm glad

848
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: they're making an impact This dane, SPORTS, pauli do you have? Anything,

849
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: YES i got.

850
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 9: One Arthur ash into The Tennis hall Of fame this

851
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 9: day and sports And Dwight gooden's Youngest All star ever

852
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 9: nineteen and a half years old.

853
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: On this, Date Phil jackson hired by The Chicago. Bulls

854
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: oh how did that work? Out, yeah let's go around the.

855
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Room what we learned on the. Program, Marvin i'm gonna

856
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: start with. You what did you learn? Today you didn't

857
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: have an office AT espn for ten. YEARS i, know,

858
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: well fire hazard we can't give. You and you Know

859
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 2: i've said some things on pardon my. Take, Look i've

860
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: been gone FROM espn for eighteen. YEARS i would not

861
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: be in this position WITHOUT. Espn i'm very, fortunate but you,

862
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: know WHEN i, left it was a bad. Situation but,

863
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: boohoo we're all. Good thanks for joining. Us that work, Out,

864
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't. KNOW i still don't know how that

865
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: worked out For paul's seat And marv the brg's family

866
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: feud coming up. Tonight we'll talk about it. Tomorrow till,

867
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: then have a great, day. Everybody