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Speaker 1: He is drink Chants, motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 2: Make he's a legends eary queens rapper. He ain't sagreed?

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Speaker 2: Is your boy in O R E.

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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop yonnaer put up his dj

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Speaker 2: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one

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Speaker 1: source for drunk drink.

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Speaker 2: Chants, mothering fucking poda every day is New Year's E.

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Speaker 2: That's it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfuck mother.

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Speaker 2: Hey Hanks, Sagreeabi Savia, this is your boy in O

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Speaker 2: R E. P up his dj E f N. And

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Speaker 2: this is Drink Chance, motherfucking conglomerate makes something.

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Speaker 1: And right now when we talk about legend.

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Speaker 2: Is because the thing about Drink Chance Podcast.

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Speaker 1: If we said that we're gonna start out and.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna only interview legends, and you know we straight

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Speaker 2: away because we got Hollywood, you could say, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's okay, I'm gonna claiming we got a little Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: But when the guests that we have tonight, there's no

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Speaker 2: way a person can ever question he's a legend, that

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Speaker 2: he's came from the bottom the dirt ug K, when

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Speaker 2: the South was actually not even looked at.

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Speaker 3: Now the South is the ship, But back then they

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Speaker 2: Fight. They was on the battlefield. It was them an outcast,

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Speaker 2: and they were fighting against the whole East coast and

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Speaker 2: they came there and they stood down. Right now, it's

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Speaker 2: my honor to introduce my brother, my friend, one of

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Speaker 2: the best resisting one of the illest groups in the world.

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Speaker 2: That part of I'm talking about bum beef from U

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Speaker 1: I need I need every time I walk in the room.

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Speaker 1: You need to be in the room. The room, the room.

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Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do it every time every artist walk

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Speaker 2: here's a deal, bun. And what I just said is

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Speaker 2: you guys are lyricists. So you guys are artists, you

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Speaker 2: guys are whatever it was you guys and outcasts. That's

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Speaker 2: the only two groups I remember. I apologize if I

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Speaker 1: Groups that got their own frame of reference. I respect it.

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Speaker 1: You know what, There's definitely a lot of other people

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Speaker 2: Know, you wrap a lot of out right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to this day you still got records. You

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Speaker 2: But still, let's let's respect that. Enough was that because

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Speaker 2: you know, back then they see New York is not

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Speaker 2: we fucked up.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you didn't like that we got more

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Speaker 1: Because he knew I knew a lot of people, and

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So really the only difference in most

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Speaker 1: know how to move in that neighborhood. Okay, they went

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's different, Okay, what they mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know what the graz is so true,

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Speaker 2: we really do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And in the South, like you see a

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Speaker 2: He has to hang out with you.

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Speaker 2: Look. Look, he told me I'm doing the record with

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Speaker 2: and he still wanted to look at me face to face,

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Speaker 1: And that's that's what I never understood, because that ship

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Speaker 1: So all that talking and flexing and shit on like

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Speaker 2: You know. Now, One of the things off top I

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Speaker 2: is trill you brothers bring that word trail to the game.

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Speaker 1: Trill is overused right.

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Speaker 2: Now, these guys are using it, they're not really understanding

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Speaker 1: And it's a problem now, Like we at first speak

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Speaker 1: very hard to like quote copyright slang. I've never caught

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Speaker 1: So like we had to copyright shit just to protect it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still, but then people still assault the brand.

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Speaker 1: And like I just had a meeting with some young kids,

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Speaker 1: they love the culture, and they're trying to do something

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Speaker 1: to represent the culture. When I see that, I know

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Speaker 1: that it's not somebody trying to appropriate my ship and

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Speaker 1: appropriate the culture. I can work with you, you know

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Speaker 1: to sell stuff, you know. I tried to let a

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00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: lot of things wash over because I didn't think it

436
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: would be as aggressive as it was. But with social

437
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: media and likes the especially like the Instagram, I haven't

438
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: chaced it. I tried with association half of the week,

439
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: but then people started becoming very like actively trying to

440
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 1: just steal from the brand that had no no, I'm good,

441
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it neat. Oh you keeping neat, keeping neat.

442
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: Continue And then you know, his wife was like, look,

443
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: this is becoming too much. People are just doing too much.

444
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, doing too much, Like I

445
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: was going to shoot a couple of people for you

446
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: or probably would have even called you I.

447
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, when it comes to music and that

448
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, I don't mind that, you know what

449
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just make sure you about that if we've

450
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: run up, if we run I ain't saying run up

451
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: to fight you, but if I'm ever in the room

452
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: with you, you know what I'm saying. If you choose

453
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 1: to call yourself this, just please come across as this respect.

454
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like if you, if you,

455
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: if you get on the regular people, if I know

456
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: what y'all mean by if I do a regular say

457
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 1: you was playing with trill mean Trill was always more

458
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 1: than just a word. It was a way of life.

459
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: It was something that kind of spoke to a way

460
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: of life. So it was about the way that you

461
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: carried yourself. Trill originally started in the Texas in the

462
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: penitentiary system. You know what I'm saying, that's a word.

463
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: So that word came home the PA from the penitentiary

464
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: in like eighty eight. So it was a word that

465
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: can use, I'm sorry from to put out the Texas.

466
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: That's so the homie came home East Coast, when you

467
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: say so, the homely little block came home from jail,

468
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: and and and little Block started talking, started talking about trill.

469
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: He was one of the first people to really use

470
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: that term. And eventually a lot of people on the

471
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: west side of town started using it, and then people

472
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: and put out there in general just started using it.

473
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: So when we started making music, we were like, well,

474
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: this is a word that not only represents who we

475
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: are and where we're from, but will also separate us

476
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: from everybody that's already in hip hop. For people in Dallas,

477
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: people just prop and perd. It was separated. It was separated. Yeah,

478
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: so it wasn't our things, but it was it was

479
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: all in terms of where we were from, you know. So,

480
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: so we always give credit to the home. And that's

481
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: why when we copyrighted, it was never to just go

482
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: out and sell T shirts and merch none of that ship,

483
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: but to protect the integrity of this ship, because I'm

484
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: responsible for that ship. You know what I'm saying. When

485
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: they see niggas misusing trill, they don't get mad at them.

486
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: They get mad at me. Like you out there, like

487
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: we hear the projects. We can't get here. You gotta

488
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: go to LA and check rock and you gotta go

489
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: over to these places to check these dudes.

490
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, No, damn, But I just

491
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: still that that's that's very true.

492
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: That's the obligation, you know what I'm saying. And so

493
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: and I can get busy and call up stuff. So

494
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: my wife is a real good barometer. She'd be like, yop,

495
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: somebody trying it again. Let's pick up your wife, you

496
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But look, because White is like, yo,

497
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: if they if they eating that money out of our pocket,

498
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: and that's why we wasn't even trying to get so

499
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 1: she was like, we ain't out here like exploiting it.

500
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: So if they're gonna exploit it, it's not right. I

501
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: agree with wife the shooter's number before we leave. Oh no, no,

502
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: wife is the shooter.

503
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, you can't have wifes go

504
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: to jail. We're gonna give them the shooters get me.

505
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 2: But listen, and here's the thing. And I'm sorry, I'm

506
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: getting going to a little dark place, but we recently

507
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: just lost Prodigy real and the thing about that is, uh,

508
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: your partner, your two men, right, So what could be

509
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: your advice to have it right now?

510
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: It's just the first thing you got to do is

511
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: support the family as much as you can. That's it, right.

512
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: And now, sometimes the family doesn't want to be supported, right,

513
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: sometimes because they're staying with greed.

514
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

515
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: And sometimes you know they have an idea of what

516
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: they want to do, Like with pimp's wife, for example,

517
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: she had an idea of what she thought her husband's

518
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: legacy should be. People think that I should take the

519
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: lead and have the idea of what his legacy should

520
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: be started.

521
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: For one second, everybody wanted you to. But he's the

522
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: reality to know how much you respected pimp.

523
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: It's not deeper than that. It's not even just it's

524
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: deeper than the respect I have a pimp. Should anything

525
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: happen to me, right or wrong, I would hope that

526
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: people support my wife. That's all I'm asked, you know

527
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If she is right or she's wrong,

528
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: If she wants to run it into the ground, then

529
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: let her do that. But please, like, just just just

530
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: support her. Right. If she don't know, she don't know,

531
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: no better try to tell her. If she don't want

532
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: to listen, just support as much as you as much

533
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: as you can, right without compromising yourself respect. That that's

534
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: all you can do, you know. Like I said, people,

535
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: the wife has an idea, Maybe the kids have an idea,

536
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Maybe the mother has an idea. Different people have different

537
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: ideas of how they feel the legacy should be maintained.

538
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: The the consumer, the listener, to fan base. Because they

539
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know as much about his personal life assumes that

540
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: the closest person to him is me. So people always like, yo, Bun,

541
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: I know you got pimpcy versus I know you got

542
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: UGK songs. And I have to educate people about how

543
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: that works, Like no, the estate has everything. Once passes away,

544
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: then the estate gets all the music. Like my I mean,

545
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: I got what forty two songs? I don't have any

546
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: pimpsy music on. It's not because I don't want it,

547
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: because it's much. It's it's more profitable to the estate

548
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: in their hands than it is in my hand like that,

549
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, and we want them to eat. That's what

550
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: we want, you know, so we you know, whether we

551
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: agree no, But it's just being real because and I

552
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: got to lead by example, because.

553
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: Because you know, I've got a lot of that. But

554
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: you've got seventeen point verses. I've never used one.

555
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: You just don't want to lean on it or not

556
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 1: want And the other thing is that you know, if

557
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: too many people lean on the legac he, then it

558
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: can't it can't rise, right, If everybody's holding on to it,

559
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: then they can't really rise with the angels like it's

560
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: supposed to. So it's my job to keep ship off

561
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: his name, keep dirt off his name, and to keep

562
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: people from attaching themselves to something that they really want

563
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: a part two. You know you don't want to talking

564
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: about bitch ass nigga.

565
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: Bitch ass nigga. Now let's take it. I know we

566
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: spoke about it a little bit earlier, but Big Pan.

567
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: Still international calling call any country I go.

568
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: When they su because they sue jay Z every year

569
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: for toy.

570
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: So is what happened, this is this is what was

571
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: crazy about the whole thing. When we did the song,

572
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: Ho was like, yo, I want to buy the publishing

573
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: on this, and we were like telling you that it

574
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: won about our publishing on the show, I'm saying, and

575
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: so we were like, what do you mean. He was like, yo,

576
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: we we kind of want to keep all of this.

577
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: And at the time, this is a very strange beat.

578
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: This was not something that pimp really wanted to do.

579
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: And they and they were really they were going towards

580
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: the Mariah record. At the time. He had a record

581
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: with Mariah and I was supposed to be the one.

582
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: This was like something down the road. So they but

583
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: they had they were cast flush. So niggas like, yeah,

584
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: we want to buy you out on this, you know

585
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like fully, and we was in a

586
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: place where like.

587
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: Yo, this is crazy.

588
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: We were like, yo, you know what.

589
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 2: You're like, We'll take it, you.

590
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Know, And then the song becomes literally you have to

591
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: understand at one point, this is the biggest record in

592
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: the world, Like I'm looking at the BDS numbers and

593
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: it's like five thousand, seven thousand, eleven thousand, fifteenth. I've

594
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this with anything period. And then

595
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: my name is attached to it, and like we started

596
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: trying to do the math. We don't even know the

597
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: intricacies of this shit, but nigs are trying to like,

598
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: let's just say five cents, nigga, you know what I'm saying,

599
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: And we start trying to do the math on It's like, yo,

600
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: it's a lot of money that we kept on the table.

601
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: And then of course Pemp gets up the lawsuit because

602
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: the lawsuit doesn't happen until pimp goes to jail. Oh okay,

603
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: so then the lawsuit happens, and then the money is

604
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: fucked up anyway because Happy group is locked up. So

605
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: then it was like yo, they can shoot, like yo,

606
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: we ain't get nothing. We ain't get shipp they can't

607
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: get nothing from So they go to prison and they

608
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: get the lawyer and do the deposition, like, yo, we've

609
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: worked for hiring my nigga. We ain't got nothing to

610
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: do with it. And then they come to me, you know,

611
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: did it work for? So we still got the shows,

612
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: We still got the increase in fans, We.

613
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: Still make for Jason taking ahead, and.

614
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, like I won't lie, like at the time,

615
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: that was way more money than we had gotten paid for.

616
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: Now, let me just tell you something. The only ship.

617
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, and you know, jay

618
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: Z's not paying me at all to say this, But

619
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: I remember jay Z going to Angie Martinez and going

620
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: to like DJ enough sitting there and they said, why

621
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: did you put ugk on the joint? And he said,

622
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: ugk listen Yo. He would big y'all up so crazy,

623
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: And I don't know if y'all understood that.

624
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: We see so a lot of people don't know that

625
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: we got the call before. Okay, there was Pimpcy was

626
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: actually supposed to be on just a week ago with

627
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: too short so but this was in the middle of

628
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: the East Coast West Coast Beef and Jay wasn't leaving

629
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: New York. So when he called pimp like I want

630
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: you on this record, People was like, yeah, just come

631
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: on Atlanta. I got the studio at the house. We

632
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: could knock it out the house. I'm not leaving New

633
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: York right now. So people was like, ship, I ain't

634
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: even the South right now, get the and then we

635
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: got to call again for big pimping and then it

636
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: eventually it eventually came together because.

637
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: See me, me is being a hip hop fan. I

638
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: was aware of UGK, but for me seeing a person

639
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: that's quote unquote above me and bigging people up like that,

640
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, because you know, I don't know

641
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: if people know like juveniles first feature was with me.

642
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: This first feature was with me.

643
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: I've been bigging up the South.

644
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: We were we were fifty since first feature. Yeah, I've

645
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: been up the South for years.

646
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: I can going on Little Way cash money for me. Definitely,

647
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: you j beat.

648
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna pa, but you superdug the game. Look

649
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: at that, you know what? Good?

650
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: No, But but that's that's the thing. The thing is

651
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: that that that feature, that class collaboration from the South,

652
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: because I always felt like it's no difference, and who

653
00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: the fuck.

654
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: The world's a ghetto. The world is a ghetto. And

655
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: if you notice, if you look at all those names,

656
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: all those those artists that hooked up, those people represent

657
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: the hood and not just people that are popping. Those

658
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: are people that represent the hood. So it's not a

659
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: mistake that Nori and UGK makes a record, they Cameron

660
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: and UGK makes a record, that Lil Wayne and Laurie

661
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: makes her record. That's not it shouldn't be a surprise

662
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: to anybody. We speak to the same people, just in

663
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: different places, in different accents. That's the only fucking difference,

664
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: my nigga.

665
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Now when you look at it's Travis Scott from Travis

666
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: Scott's Houston.

667
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: He's Houston, Houston, and he tries to put it into music.

668
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: And if you're from Houston, you listen to it. He's

669
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: saying everything to let you know, Like he's on a

670
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: New Scissor record, He's like, I'm from it's that Most City.

671
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: That's say yeah, because he's from Missouri City, but in

672
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: the Hood they call it Most City. So he's trying

673
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: to do it, but he doesn't make the music that's

674
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: automatically identified with You know, he came in the game

675
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, signed the TI. That's how we came men. Yeah,

676
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Travis is originally yeah, originally always said that that he

677
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: always has a good time in the studio and gets

678
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: along with everybody. The only person he's ever disagreed with

679
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: in the studio is Travis. Because Travis has a very

680
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: clear idea of how his music should sound, and he

681
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: know it too. If you listen to it, like nobody,

682
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like anything else anybody is doing. And

683
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: that's why most people don't connect him to use it,

684
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: because he's so closely associated associated with Kanye and you

685
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and Ti. But but he's not

686
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: from either one of those places. He's bred from a

687
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: different place. But that's the one thing about music. Did

688
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: you you identify what it means?

689
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: No?

690
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: No, not at all. But I'm from a different era,

691
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So so in different places,

692
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: in a different differ and a different city. But even

693
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: more so is the time difference in the generational gap.

694
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: And I like Travis because I don't want motherfuckers to

695
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: feel like they gotta lean or that they need to

696
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: lean on PIMC and DJ Screw forever, Like that was

697
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: a great time. It was a beautiful time for the city.

698
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: But you can't I'm just saying, like, the city can't

699
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: grow if we don't move past June twenty seven. You

700
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: don't say Demo Birthday. It's a good thing to celebrate,

701
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: and it's a great thing to acknowledge, but we got

702
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: to show the growth past that.

703
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Yes, this is what when Screw is.

704
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Looking down on us, and people looking down on us,

705
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: they don't want us to be keep They don't want

706
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: us to keep concentrating on what they did. They waiting

707
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: for one of us to pick up the goddamn for time.

708
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: So like, and I'm back in the lab now because

709
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I sat around for four years and I was like,

710
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see who's going to do what. And

711
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: then I realized, like, Nigga, you the og You can't

712
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: expect eighteen year old niggas and twenty one year old

713
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: niggas twenty four You're not not to represent me but

714
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to save that generation. Older heads have always given younger

715
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: heads game, but now it's just young hands given young

716
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: heads games. So it's the blind leading and blind and

717
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: we got comfortable houses and cars, and we can sit

718
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: around and complain like our children is the only children

719
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: that we need to worry about. But when mcs come

720
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: to me and say, yo, yo, you raised me, I

721
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: have an ogation to that MC. You know what I'm saying,

722
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: that's an obligation. When people come up and say, yo,

723
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: y'all music raised us. Y'all niggas told me this, then

724
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: that means that they're still looking for whatever I gave them.

725
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: And if I was the only person that gave it

726
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: to him them, then I need to beat the motherfucker

727
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: giving it to him now. And that's why we think that.

728
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: Goddamn bun. But you got responsibility.

729
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: No, we all do. We all do, especially if we

730
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: ate good. That's the reality, especially we ate good.

731
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw it more on you than me. I

732
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: got you. I got you because you know why, Bun,

733
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Like what.

734
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: You just said, we can't save everybody. We gotta try

735
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: to save somebody, so you can't go back and save

736
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: the whole hood. Some of them, some of them niggas

737
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do it any more than what's being done.

738
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: They want women to take carevin. You know what I'm saying,

739
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: so they don't some other ship anyway have just come.

740
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: You might not agree with this, but I say that

741
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: our generation. I say because of the age group, our

742
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 3: generation dropped the ball. No, it's like, stop stop being

743
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: at some point.

744
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what happened. First of all, people

745
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: got scared of catching the cases that they knew they

746
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: were getting into, so they started putting drugs and guns

747
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: and young niggas in hands that were under eighteen that

748
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: they knew wouldn't necessarily get real time. But what they

749
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: did was stop their opportunity to progress. Right, So then

750
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: young niggas got older. And I'm gonna tell you another thing,

751
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: because nobody want to talk about I'm glad we're talking

752
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: about this on drinks.

753
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: Talk about it.

754
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of niggas that went into houses and

755
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: manipulated women for sex and money and put them on drugs.

756
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: And little niggas sat in those houses and watched niggas

757
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: do that. And now they're old enough and they remember

758
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: what you did today. Mama. That's why you gonna respect

759
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: you feel identified with.

760
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: But this is part of please, this is one of

761
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: the reasons why you nat respect that they gave they

762
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: put cases on them that they knew your niggas would

763
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 5: never shake.

764
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: They gots that put credit that they can't shake. And

765
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: now they got niggas in their life in these houses

766
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: putting values that they can't shake.

767
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: But stop right there. But this here's the day, because

768
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: I want you to finish the ship. Yeah, but I've

769
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: seen them Meme the other day and they said, how

770
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: the fuck you mad at mumble rap? You sold cracked

771
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 2: to their moms and this ship.

772
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, mumble rap is. I don't

773
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: even like that term. I don't even like young niggas.

774
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't like nobody putting no term on niggas because

775
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to be honest, just being real, twenty years ago, twenty

776
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: five years ago, when they didn't understand the Southern slang

777
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: and the twain and the way we bent out with words.

778
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 2: But they could have called up some like that too,

779
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 2: So it ain't no difference with that.

780
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: And I tell you, I tell you, I tell that

781
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, dods Ben, thank you. I tell people

782
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: all the time, man, y'all need to get offended at

783
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: that ship. You know what I'm saying. They should be

784
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: offended about that ship. They shouldn't take if they want

785
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: to take it to reclaim it and and ship on

786
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: the people that did it, then that's fine, but they

787
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: need to be offended by that because that when people

788
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: say you're mumbling, that means they really don't want to

789
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: take the time to listen to what you got to set.

790
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: That's what that mean. That's all that tell me, you know,

791
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: because I know what they're talking about. When you first

792
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: listen to a young thug record and you never heard

793
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: it before, you got to bag it up and listen

794
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: to it again, and you gotta wait until you figure out. Okay,

795
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: wait a minute, there's a pattern to this this he's

796
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: saying words. But I don't normally hear these words bent

797
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: like this. I don't hear hit him sung like this.

798
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: They're usually not inflected in this tone on this syllable,

799
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: So I don't I didn't know that's what he was

800
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: saying because I ain't never heard that word said like that, right,

801
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: float right exactly. And then once you get it, you

802
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: were like, oh, Nick, this is you know, it takes

803
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: a while to figure out what the migos are saying.

804
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: Once you figure out, you're like, yo, these dudes are

805
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: killing it. You know what I'm saying, and that's.

806
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: What we're trying to do at Drink Chaps with Vault

807
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: TV audio boom, audio boom. What we're trying to do

808
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: is we're trying to We don't want to school people

809
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: on hip hop. We want to We want to give

810
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: you our version of hip hop.

811
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: We want to educate. We don't want to son. You

812
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: want to like the fucking blunt We're gonna sense. But

813
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: this is the deal. Here's the deal passed around, here's

814
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: the deal. Here's a deal.

815
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: You know, you know Aurvall TV. We got great people.

816
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: We got people from Queens that worked there. We got

817
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: people from motherfucking everywhere that worked there. And you know

818
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: what it is. Here's the beautiful part about it. It's

819
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: we're all representing the same culture. It's hip hop. And

820
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: you know what, our version might be different, their version

821
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: might be different. But the thing is, as long as

822
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: we wrapping hip hop, we didn't know that's the reality.

823
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: We didn't know. I sat in Texas, I looked at

824
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: New York on TV and I just didn't know. You know,

825
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: people said, in New York, we're in Texas on TV

826
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: looking at Dallas like that.

827
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 2: And they didn't know, we all here look a drink.

828
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: We look at London and we look at London and

829
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 6: we don't even know getting drunk. That's what I thought,

830
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 6: you know, you know some of it. I thought syrup

831
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 6: was liquid. And that's the thing, real talk. We were

832
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 6: never telling people what it was. Somebody gave it away

833
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 6: in the interview. I'm not gonna I'm not here to

834
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 6: blast them. They know who they are, definitely, because they're

835
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 6: a good friend. And they didn't they didn't realize what

836
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 6: they were doing.

837
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: But but the understanding between everybody like we're not going

838
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: to just actually say what this is. But then somebody

839
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: actually said it and then it kind of became what

840
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: it was. But it was never just us because Philly

841
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: Niggas was doing it at this well, you know, like

842
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: well if you want to talk about that, Mississippi Alabam

843
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Nigga sip yellow too, and Tennessee. So when you hear

844
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee Niggas talk about scissor, that wasn't really purple, that

845
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: wasn't real cerf, that was yealous, That was that y

846
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: what's the activist? Activists? Activist is what they sell now.

847
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: Because the original serve brand was called bar b a

848
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: r r E. So when Big most things about the

849
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: ball baby, and we rap about sipping ball, that's what

850
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: we talk about because the original brand, pharmaceutical brand that

851
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: sold it was a company called bar B a r

852
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: r E. And that's where the name came from. So

853
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: people still say sipping ball, but they're not really sipping ball.

854
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: They probably sipping activists. And what we used to sip

855
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: was like sweet because their early medicine to be tight.

856
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know.

857
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 2: And that's why we had the Screw tapes and the

858
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: music slowed down.

859
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: To try to exclues. But we never knew that ship was.

860
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: We never expected that ship to really get past what

861
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: we were. We expect for anybody to understand.

862
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: And now it's so big. Remer Screw getting a just

863
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 5: Award before Justice. They had to make their ma. They

864
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 5: had to literally make a category for him because they

865
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: created an entirely new style of DJ. Wow, they gave

866
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: it and the awards were like ring.

867
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: I think I got just gave me a little like

868
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: a boom box that he made it just she was dope.

869
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: That was my favorite or whatever.

870
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember being there watching slave Slap Pudgy

871
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: p with the plaque.

872
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: You definitely hear about this bunch's get into it.

873
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: Oh that was me. So the only people at the

874
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Just Awards from the South that year was me and

875
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: they was me and killing Mike. I don't know. It

876
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: was the year Slave slap Pudgy Butudgy Pay, I don't know.

877
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: It was a DJ from Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was

878
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: Pudgy p from Philly.

879
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: He's a DJ from something. I'm not sure. But he

880
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: had been talking greasy about Slave. So Slave had just

881
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: won his award and went off to like sway Slave

882
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Jama King representing all of them. That's what I'm talking about,

883
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: my twin. So he had just won his award and

884
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: it went to like the back to them. So he

885
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: was like so he like getting the press, like Pudgy

886
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: goes up and I don't know if you form of

887
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: one or something, but he was on stage and he

888
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: said some slick ship and Slave moved immediately, and so

889
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: the whole area got crazy and the only nigga I

890
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: know is killing Mike, and I'm the only nigga he know.

891
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: So he got a two by four, I got a

892
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: five hydrant and we back to back like we're getting

893
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: out of here. We going on because ain't nobody finna

894
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: know who were If you didn't come with who you

895
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 1: fighting with? You finished swing.

896
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: That's how I moved.

897
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: If you if you ain't come with me, if you

898
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: ain't come with me, and you between where I'm trying

899
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: to get to, We're finna move you, and so we

900
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: realizing immediately in the moment me and you it's going down.

901
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: They just kind of happened like that. But then it

902
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: was over about maybe five to seven minutes. It happened

903
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: real quickened. It was funny. That was funny. Drama is

904
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: the drama king. He not only plays drama, he addresses drama.

905
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: He addresses drama now. One of the best times in

906
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: my life was when I hung out with both of

907
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: you brothers together and I brung out of that frack city.

908
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: This was my first time left ragging, my first time mean.

909
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: But this was a crazy that's your first time meeting.

910
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: It was crazy like I'm in Miami, duties in Texas

911
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 3: doing the first time.

912
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna meet us in.

913
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: The project in the queen it and you know, last crazy,

914
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm straight out the bottle and the shamp It was

915
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: what's the ship with the yellow rap Chrystal straight at

916
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: the bottle DTS drove by three times. I remember every

917
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: time I watched underage dudes slapped.

918
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 3: Over age dudes commented and everything on the side, just like, yo, hilarious.

919
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: It was hilarious corner beef because somebody pressed somebody.

920
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not naming on, but somebody pressed somebody and didn't

921
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: know that he was working for somebody else. But that

922
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: became a thing like Yo, so I needed something. I

923
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: need to shoot you the five for that, because you

924
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: know there was an n R and n all got

925
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: got he got shot to five.

926
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: He got shot.

927
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: He got shot the five. And then while that happened

928
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: and his keys flew out his hand. The other young homie,

929
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say his name, but he be

930
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: in Houston with me in trouble all the time he's

931
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: being text shot out to him kept his foot. I

932
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: never kept his foot on his keys for two and

933
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: a half hours while he was looking everywhere for his keys.

934
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: They were right there on the one dude shoot for

935
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: two and a half hours. He never moved. He kept

936
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: at yo. That was an amazing night. And and trying

937
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: to get a cab home, trying to get a cab.

938
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: In the nineties, trying.

939
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: To get a cat from left rack three in the morning.

940
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: Yo, boy, let me just tell you something that was

941
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: one of the most memorable moments from my life, because

942
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: you know why, I don't realize how out of control

943
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: my hood is because I'm.

944
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Just a part of it.

945
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: Like you cared me yesterday, and I feel like I

946
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: feel like you finally realized, like okay, and it was

947
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: ill because you were faint. It was ill, nigga, look

948
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: a look at the I'm sorry telling you. It's good.

949
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: It's good.

950
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: I thought it was beautiful because Norri was my all

951
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: accounts famous at this point, right, and he's in he's

952
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: in the lectus, and he's on the block with his

953
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: homies and even brought us out there and he's in

954
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: his hood. And it's like you probably don't know this,

955
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: but ever since I ever since you did that, every

956
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: time somebody comes to Houston, I picked him up. I

957
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: ride him around and people don't know why this happened.

958
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I pick him up, a ride around, I take him straight,

959
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: Like where do you want to go in Houston? I

960
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: want to go to Fifth Ward. I want to go

961
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: by to the school. She know I'm just giving you

962
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: real I'm just giving you real ship. I was like,

963
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm so gassed because my thing is, if I can't

964
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: do for people in my city with know did for me,

965
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: they're not real. They're not real. Damn that's beautiful. But

966
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: that's the best car because you know what, you never

967
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: even acted like you was the hardest nigga. I left, right,

968
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: but you know what, but you know that you can

969
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: go home.

970
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: But you but you know you could go home.

971
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,959
Speaker 1: Let's say that, right, and there's a lot of people

972
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: that can't go home.

973
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying home yesterday it was terday, yo, everybody.

974
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. That was the best compliment

975
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: I ever got in my life, because that's real ship.

976
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: The thing about it is a lot of us we

977
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: come from the hood. A lot of people say, oh,

978
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: this dickhead can't come back to that. Not me because

979
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: I go.

980
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: Right back and the words of Richard talking about the niggas, and.

981
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 2: Then and then when I go back, here's the crazy ship.

982
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: They leave because you know, I was really a shooter.

983
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: I never had a shooter like I was serious.

984
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: I was the shooter.

985
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: So when I come back, everybody leaves, and it's like weird.

986
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: So for me, I was always I was always a storyteller.

987
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I was always the dude like I came, I went

988
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: to Houston and came back to put author.

989
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: Yo.

990
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: This is a blunt like I went to Houston came back, Yo.

991
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: But is this is why Yo? I left, went to

992
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Houston came back. This is irve. I went to Houston

993
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: back like I would always bring all that type of

994
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: ship to But that's a big.

995
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: Thing right there, because you know what you just said,

996
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: you say right, very important. You said you went to

997
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 2: Houston and you went to poor author. See most people

998
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: who listen to this, they don't realize.

999
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: That yea, yeah, I grew up. I went half away

1000
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: from Houston. Like I'm from Houston, I'm closer to Louisiana

1001
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: than I am to Houston from well and like all

1002
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: my family is from Louisiana. But there was there was

1003
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: only if you wanted to make music, you had to

1004
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: go to Houston. Houston like that was where you had

1005
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: to go to make your bones about music, you know

1006
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for us, it was a no

1007
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: brain like we didn't even have real recording studios can

1008
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: put author you know what I'm saying, but we had

1009
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: people that wanted to be real mcs, and so we

1010
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: just kept going at it, kept going at it, and

1011
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: eventually we went to the flea market one day and

1012
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: kid in the fleet Market had in Houston, had a

1013
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: sign in his in his store, and he said, we're

1014
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: looking for demos. And we got back in the car,

1015
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: drove back to put author, got the demo, drove back

1016
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: to the flea market, played him the demo.

1017
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: And he was like.

1018
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: Me and Pim okay with four deep in the old

1019
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: school prelude. You remember the old prelude to they have

1020
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: no back seat. We four deep in that bitch going

1021
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: to the flea market. I want to I want to

1022
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: go on to the whole other city.

1023
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: I want to go a little deeper right now.

1024
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: But let's go.

1025
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: How did you and Pimp even meet?

1026
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: Me and Pimp had a mutual friend Mitchell Queen and

1027
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: Pemp was His name was Mitchell Queen, Big Mitch, and

1028
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Mitch was yeah, and he was rapping with Pimp before

1029
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I was. And I had an idea who Pimp was,

1030
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: and I ain't really like pimp, and Pimp had an

1031
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: idea of who I was, Like me, like me. We

1032
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: met that like a football game, and like he fronted

1033
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: me about some ship and I actually proved I don't

1034
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: want to get too deep in it. I got saved

1035
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: some ship for the book, like my wife said, I

1036
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: got say the ship for the book. He in front

1037
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: of me on something. I proved myself right. And from

1038
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: that point on we became real tight because I thought

1039
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: he was a certain type of dude and he approached

1040
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: me a certain way that I ain't expect from him,

1041
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: and then I handled it a certain way that he

1042
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: ain't expect from me. And then we realized and this

1043
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: is this is literally like my junior year, his sophomore

1044
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: year or before we were making music because he was

1045
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: already I wasn't even really rapping. It was k first album,

1046
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: name K's first. Our first project was The Southern Way.

1047
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: But he and Mitchell Queene the dude I'm talking about

1048
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: with you GK first.

1049
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, it wasn't the reason.

1050
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm not in one of the original members of UGK,

1051
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: but that's what But that's smacked myself.

1052
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 7: UGK wifey book coming soon, but it's not an actual

1053
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 7: album that came out.

1054
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, just as a group. And then because

1055
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: what it was when they were two men, they were group,

1056
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: and then I ended up being in another group. So

1057
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: when we got together we as a four man group,

1058
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: we became a totally different group. And then when the

1059
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: dude hurt because the demo we made was just the

1060
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: four man group. So some was like, I want to

1061
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: sign y'all. But one of the other two dudes had

1062
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: a football scholarship. He was like, I'm going to play football. Wow.

1063
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: And then the other dude was like a football like prodigy.

1064
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: He was like a prospect, but he was a junior.

1065
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: So he's like, Yo, I'm finna. I want to play

1066
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: ball like him. So I'm just going to concentrate on

1067
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: this ship and get a scholarship. So it ended up

1068
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: just kind of being me and pim.

1069
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, being from Houston being

1070
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: for him, Texas pulled off row. We're good, right now,

1071
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: you're good. How does Scarface play a role?

1072
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: So Scarface was the first time Scarface was this is

1073
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: all right, So I don't want to go I ain't

1074
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell that story. I guess like wife, you say,

1075
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: Donna tell everything, but I will say Scarface.

1076
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Live for one time, one time, I would.

1077
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: Say, Scarface was the first like real rapper with a

1078
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: record out that I'd ever seen in my life. He

1079
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: came to he came to a show that I was

1080
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: at and rapped and this was Scallface back when he

1081
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: used to wear a suit in the hat. And he

1082
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: was the first time I'd ever been in a in

1083
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: a room with somebody that actually had made a record right,

1084
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: And that changed my perspective on who gets to make

1085
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: a record, Not that Scarface wasn't special, but that you

1086
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't have to just be from New York, LA to

1087
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: actually be able to make a rap record and then

1088
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: go and.

1089
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: Keep shows away from you. So you're walking a.

1090
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Room when we in a bathroom and skating rink, I

1091
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: feel like Scarface got a fleet I shoot on got.

1092
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: He said like a suit suit.

1093
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely was off.

1094
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: I was wrong.

1095
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: So describe to he's with Krino, I'm in the bathroom,

1096
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: kay Renal. I feel like it cares one cousin. He's

1097
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: from that era was like the first battle was like

1098
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: the first original battlerapper from Houston, like eighty seven eighty eight.

1099
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: He's still like the dude that will like he got

1100
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: he got like the he's the dude bottle me right now,

1101
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: right now, like he will too bar you to death,

1102
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Well, even had boom boom

1103
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: like death though, like he's got it. He got what

1104
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: he calls the Black Book and it literally thirty years

1105
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: of wraps in there.

1106
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: Wow.

1107
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, we were freestyling in the room and

1108
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: me and my man David Forrest d A from the

1109
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Black Monks. We were hurting niggas.

1110
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 2: We were hurting the Black Monks.

1111
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: That was a rap group, the Black Yeah, I'm old school.

1112
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: That's show.

1113
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Really did I really did? I really did. And we

1114
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: were in there, like me and him because we went

1115
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: to the same high school. To guess we would like

1116
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: body in niggas. And then Facing Krino comes in and

1117
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: Face doesn't even wrap. Krino does sixteen balls and then

1118
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: they just walk out and niggas just kind of just

1119
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: go home.

1120
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: But did you know how our classic Like I don't

1121
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: want to say that Pimps was idolized after he died, because.

1122
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: He just wasn't appreciated until he died, that's what you said,

1123
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Because I don't people didn't realize how much of the

1124
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: UGK library he produced. They didn't realize how much music

1125
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: outside of UGK he produced, and they didn't. Yeah, yeah,

1126
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: see see what I'm saying. That's what I'm talking about.

1127
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: People didn't really know that, and people didn't know that

1128
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: he and he was He didn't make beats, he was

1129
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: a producer. He had a real discipline for music and

1130
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: and people didn't really realize that outside of the South.

1131
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I think Willie D was the first person to say,

1132
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: people think we just lost a rapper, we lost way

1133
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 1: more than a rapper, you know what I'm saying. And

1134
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: that was what really made him great to the people

1135
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: in the South.

1136
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 2: Because they knew, I'll tell you something funny, Ice Killed

1137
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: wouldn't do a record with me unless he seemed to

1138
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: me in the studio. And PIMC was the same way,

1139
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: said I think, I think he's a real nigga.

1140
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: But I gotta I gotta be sure niggas are real good.

1141
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: I got the uniform in Walmart. Now this nigga.

1142
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 5: But to.

1143
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: Get your real nigga uniform wal Now, he.

1144
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: Already signed each other and leave each other alone. And

1145
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, it was like six seven hours

1146
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: me in the studio.

1147
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: We just keep going. But is like all right, everybody.

1148
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: Coast lines with each other as finish director.

1149
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: Because I'm done. Everybody know if we like rhymes. I'm

1150
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: probably the first person that I went to rhyme. I'm

1151
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: just sitting around way for everybody else. No, but I

1152
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: appreciated that so much.

1153
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 2: I appreciated though, did you brought you two brothers together?

1154
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 2: I appreciated y'all love for each other because y'all love

1155
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: for each other was the same exact way that me

1156
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: and Capone love each other, Meaning that I ain't gotta

1157
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: show copone love on camera.

1158
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta funk with them. I'm gonna ask you.

1159
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm ask you a couple of questions, and you should

1160
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: love it and you should ask answer these in a

1161
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: way that's very predictable. Yes, with you and Poe. Did

1162
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: y'all have the same friends?

1163
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: No?

1164
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Did y'all like the same kind of women?

1165
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: No?

1166
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: Did y'all handle money the same way?

1167
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: No?

1168
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: But y'all made amazing music in history, that goddamnit.

1169
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: But that's where it was going that.

1170
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: This is Yani yang, right, You see what I'm saying.

1171
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: This is yin and Yang, and that's why that ship

1172
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: hurt work. And when I watched E p D and

1173
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: groups like that, right, the two man groups, and you

1174
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: couldn't find too many two different niggas than perishing area. Right.

1175
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: But that's but but it separate, right, but but but

1176
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: that means that we encompass everything that all with hoods,

1177
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: because that's the one thing we shipped. It's our hood.

1178
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the one thing

1179
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: you upon y'all left right, niggas.

1180
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: No, no, no, crazy y'all, queen queen, but queens.

1181
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: It's a different.

1182
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 2: Blood blood made What made it work was we're from

1183
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: two different hoods. And now that's it even deeper. N Listen,

1184
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 2: let me just say you because me and Pemble.

1185
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't from the same neighborhood, the West Side.

1186
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: I can't go to Queens Bridge. I went to queens

1187
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: Bridge just now, there's nothing but left right, guys there,

1188
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: I went to left Rack. There's nothing more Queens. But

1189
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: me and Capone set that up. And we didn't know

1190
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: what we were doing. We just had love for each

1191
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: other and we said, you know what, fuck that, We're

1192
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna mess with each other. And here's the deal.

1193
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad he's alive. I'm glad he's still here because

1194
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: we hugged. I hugged him the other day and I said, damn,

1195
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: and he said, look this this left rack niggas left

1196
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: the queen's ridge. And then he came and left right,

1197
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: and he said, I said, look this queen's niggas. He said,

1198
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: if we set that up? And then I gave him

1199
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: a hug, and it's beautiful. Right, it's a beautiful thing.

1200
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: Because how did it not meant.

1201
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: For us that we all leave respective legacies and right, yes,

1202
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: some of them bigger than others, but we all leave.

1203
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: We said, precedent in the hood from one right, A

1204
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: lot of us are the first nigga many times you

1205
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: use that word. A lot of us are the first

1206
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: niggas that did that. I saw that brought that.

1207
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, precedence.

1208
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1209
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: I can't pronounce it.

1210
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, no, I just want to laugh at you,

1211
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: just trying to say I'm dyslexic.

1212
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: Just say, look, I'm dyslexic.

1213
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: But and because of the fact that we were those

1214
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: people that set those presidents dudes that normally would have

1215
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: been like, for example, UGK we come from put off

1216
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: the Texas. The next town to us is Beonmont, Texas

1217
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: beef years like beef, physical, physical, guns, all of that.

1218
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: We were the first put off the niggas to actually

1219
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: be able to go to Bomont like have a concert

1220
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: and let niggas mean muggers. But and but like, look,

1221
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 1: eventually the music won and they realized that, look, whether

1222
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: we like these dudes or not, nobody even know where

1223
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: we're from. These dudes are actually kind of representing the whole.

1224
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: Because we wouldn't just say put off, we'd be like, yo,

1225
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: we're from the Golden Triangle. Golden Triangle is put off

1226
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: the whole. So even though niggas might beef with bone

1227
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: My niggas and beef with Orange niggas, if we got

1228
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: to go to Houston, if a bone My nigga and

1229
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: a port off the niggas in Houston and they get

1230
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: into it with Houston, they gonna shoulder the show. We

1231
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: got to get back home right and then we'll deal

1232
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: with that later. It's like street beef versus It's like

1233
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: the street versus the penitentiary. In the street, we would

1234
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: beef in pend Now we got to lock up it's

1235
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: a different it's a different dynamic. I'm not gonna get

1236
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: into it, but you're talking about it now. I don't

1237
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: want to know what side you had to choose. It's terrible.

1238
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: You don't need to go to jail right now.

1239
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: Listen. But now it came on one time with Pimp

1240
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: actually got on the land of radio and he he everybody, And.

1241
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he shipped on everybody. He was very

1242
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: honest about how he saw the world. How he saw

1243
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: the world, you know what I'm saying, And people are

1244
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: scared to be honest about how they see ship.

1245
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: People want to say, now we understand that, but back

1246
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: then that was too advanced.

1247
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: No, no, And even I was like, what is he doing?

1248
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: And there were people that were like, Yo, this is crazy,

1249
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: like people are gonna people are about to go off

1250
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: on Pimp. I'm like, nah, this will probably be fifty

1251
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: to fifty and they were like, you're crazy, like Atlanta,

1252
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: ain't the East Coast people. I'm like, you don't understand

1253
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: how people love PIMC. This will probably be about fifty

1254
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: to fifty. And it became that kind of a situation. Now,

1255
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I think it's seventy thirty. Pep Suey

1256
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: like everybody agree with Pemp and I did too also,

1257
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: and it was because Pip had been very honest and

1258
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: open and eventually right about a lot of shit before then.

1259
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: So when he gave that opinion, even people that lived

1260
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: in Atlanta kind of had to be like, I know

1261
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: what he I know what he's saying, but then I

1262
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: also know what he means, right, And maybe he didn't

1263
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: he was and maybe he didn't say it in the

1264
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: right way, but I know what he meant because then

1265
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: they was like, yo, you're saying Atlanta was a gay

1266
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: capital of the world, and he's like, okay, right, And

1267
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: at that time people like, yo, you were wrong for that,

1268
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: But now in retrospect, you go Atlantics mall. I'm sorry,

1269
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with being gay,

1270
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. He was right like a lot of

1271
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: black people that are trying to explore their sexuality or

1272
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: trying to confirm the sexuality or finding themselves in Atlanta,

1273
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, and it's been like that, and that

1274
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: was there was a very ugly undercurrent of people that

1275
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: were on the download. And that was another thing he

1276
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: was trying to expose because we knew exposed. Because here's

1277
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: the thing, Pemsey was not homophobic. Pempsey had no problem

1278
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: with gay people. Pempcy's problem was quit hide in the

1279
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: fact whatever you are would be that yes, because you're

1280
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: fucking up, as he would say. Problem was when on

1281
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: the download, you're quote fucking up the pussy population, right,

1282
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: And that was his problem. If you gave me gay

1283
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: that everybody know who you are, so we can identify

1284
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: that and separate that and be like, okay, so you

1285
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: leave the women alone. You don't have to.

1286
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut you off for one second month off.

1287
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 2: That's That's probably the first time I actually wrap, I

1288
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: actually really want, I actually like really love GZ Gez

1289
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: because Gez the biggest artist he could. He could have

1290
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: just turned around and just shitted on pimps. He could

1291
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: have said something, but you know what Z did. Giz

1292
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up that I'm not saying and.

1293
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: I'll be hones that was out of all respect because

1294
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: didn't know pimp. GZ knew me right, you know what

1295
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1296
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: Hold on describe that, please well break that down.

1297
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: G Z rolle for pimp like free pimp and all

1298
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: of that because he hurt he could but didn't have

1299
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: that relationship with pamp advice versa, and so Pimp didn't

1300
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: really know who he was as a person. But in

1301
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: the middle of whatever he was doing, he felt a

1302
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: certain way about something. And it put me in JZ

1303
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: in a funny position because Jesus got up. He's got

1304
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: to represent his hood and he's got to do what

1305
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: he has to do. But and I'm telling him, look,

1306
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: whatever you feel you need to do, do what you

1307
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: gotta do.

1308
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: And he he didn't.

1309
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: But at the end of no, it's not that he

1310
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: didn't no no.

1311
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: Respect, Jesus.

1312
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: Jesz did everything he was supposed to do. And he'll

1313
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: never say this, and obviously we're drinking that white thing,

1314
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: but the reality of was Jesz did everything he was

1315
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do. We did everything we were supposed to do,

1316
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: and God kept us away beautiful from each other. Jesus

1317
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: was ready to do whatever he had to do to

1318
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: handle his situation, and we were ready to do everything

1319
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: we had to do to handle our situation, and God intervened.

1320
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: That's just it.

1321
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: And then now, like Jesus, he's never not been my brother,

1322
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: his temper has never not been my brother, of course.

1323
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: And so God was like, look, I don't want you

1324
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: to have to choose between brother and brother. Here's what

1325
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: here's what we're going to do, and.

1326
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: How difficult is that for you?

1327
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't. It wasn't difficult at all because Jesz

1328
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: had to do what he had to do and I

1329
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: had to do what I had to do. And I'm

1330
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: just talking about in general, Like, no, it wasn't.

1331
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

1332
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, Jesz knew what he had to do, right,

1333
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: I knew what I had to do, and you maintained

1334
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: that and he did too. And that's why, and that's

1335
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: why we could still stand together as men and speak

1336
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: and whatever, because nobody got compromise in that position.

1337
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know, Beat, but this

1338
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: is a podcast, this is a show. We all revolt TV.

1339
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 2: But we're big up our artists. We give our artists

1340
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 2: they flowers when they could smell them. We give them

1341
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: their drinks when they can hold on. Excuse me, I

1342
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: can't remember another botf give them they flowers when they

1343
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: can smell them, when they get hell begiven when they

1344
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 2: drinks when they get thinking.

1345
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: And when that's the remake, because I mean, that's the

1346
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: reason I need to get where I can. Hell it

1347
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: yo and butt B and but B.

1348
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know, but if it wasn't

1349
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: for U g K, they might not been on mob D. No, no, relax,

1350
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 2: come on, let me pick you up and relax. Relax.

1351
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 2: It wasn't for you. He excuse me. You know what,

1352
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 2: I'll take it even further than that. If it once

1353
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: for eight ball m j G, they might have been

1354
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 2: in UGK. If it wasn't for U g K, they

1355
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: might have not been a mob D. If it wasn't

1356
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: for a mob D, they might have been not seeing that.

1357
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: I remember when I remember you our hell let's go

1358
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: just you know what I'm saying, Let's go.

1359
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: I remember, that's how long I've been in the hip hop.

1360
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm listening to hip hops and what's that called uptown hustler.

1361
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: This niggas took it back, definitely age Huffer.

1362
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: So I've been here. I've been This is a tough

1363
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: crew and Justice and all these niggas tough crews. That's

1364
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: what I found out without hippo. So I watched you

1365
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: see where everybody comes up. I remember Mob Deep being

1366
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: teenagers making hip hop. I remember you and Poem being

1367
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: teenagers and making hip hop. I remember people don't realize

1368
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: when our first record came out. I was eighteen, Pimper seventeen.

1369
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: I remember being a teenager making hip hop, and I

1370
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: know what it's like when it's just you and another

1371
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: nigga in the room, like yo.

1372
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: Fuck these other niggas.

1373
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: I got you and another nigga being being like, you know,

1374
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: and I got you, so like you bring your crew,

1375
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: I bring my col whatever niggas gonna get rid of.

1376
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: Nigga's gonna be the reckless. But when it comes to

1377
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: rooms that them niggas ain't in. I got you and

1378
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: you got me.

1379
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: And that's that's the beautiful thing about what we do

1380
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 2: is hip hop has blung us to the world's crazy.

1381
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: That that's crazy.

1382
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 2: That's the crazy ship.

1383
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: You ever look at your photo map on your phone

1384
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: and just be like, like, this is everywhere I've ever been,

1385
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: Like me and my wife would try to sit back

1386
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 1: and just go in the into the map ship and

1387
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: look at everywhere you ever took a picture nigga, and it's.

1388
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: All on hip He's always there's still passport Atlanta. There's

1389
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: still my passport in Atlanta. But I had every fucking stamps.

1390
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: In the world. I was so proud of my passport.

1391
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: Shout out to my nigga Mike from New York. Might

1392
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: got a nord Korea passport. He got a stamp from

1393
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: North Korea. Ship he got.

1394
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: He got a stamp from with Kim Jones.

1395
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he drove through off Korea.

1396
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 2: He got, he got out.

1397
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: They were doing gumball. They was on the way to

1398
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: Beijing's ship because I'm back on my music ship. That's

1399
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: the only where you drive across. It's three thousand, three

1400
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: thousand miles in six days.

1401
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

1402
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: Wow, just mash cannon ball, it is.

1403
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: But it's it's way more hectic cannonball because it's like

1404
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty cars, probably about eighty million dollars

1405
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: worth of cause and drink champs.

1406
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: We can't let you leave it. I was talking about

1407
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: you got a new album coming out.

1408
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: No, I got an EP coming out. Then I got

1409
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: a new album coming out.

1410
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: Oh that's rich.

1411
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: Then I got another album.

1412
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: I got another three got damn.

1413
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: You got in the book eventually, so they were going

1414
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: to do the album, but then White people was like, look,

1415
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: take your time on your album. You got a bunch

1416
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: of music. Put a little ep out right quick. You

1417
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: can still eat. Let's nigga nigga. We don't call we

1418
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: call it a muse. I make art, right, I make art.

1419
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't make music. I make art. My wife is

1420
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: my mute. Right. So when the muse says you're doing right,

1421
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: we mash on that. When you says you're doing wrong,

1422
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 1: we erase that.

1423
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 2: So now describe a a p.

1424
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 1: What is that five songs to well with' somewhere between

1425
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 1: seven and eight? Okay, so we have to be careful

1426
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: because anything more than eight is Outum.

1427
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: Seven to eight?

1428
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: Just why I'm not doing no intros out. So but

1429
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: she was like, look, let's just put some music out.

1430
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: Let niggas know you back, Increase the shows, get the

1431
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 1: money up. Still eat. You still can do your album

1432
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: because my album is vision is separate from what we're

1433
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: doing on this. That's that's you.

1434
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: You want to answer this, you gotta answer it.

1435
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: I feel like you gotta relax. It's time to roll

1436
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: of blood. Don't. Yeah, I'm in Manhattan, but I gotta

1437
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 1: ast you to relax.

1438
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: I should have put him out speaker. No, I hit you.

1439
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm in the middle of an interview.

1440
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: We got.

1441
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: I ed you in ten minutes. You gotta relaxing. Yeah,

1442
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: I really shout out to branch.

1443
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: You going there one shout where we want to go

1444
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 2: right now?

1445
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: I guess I'm in one OF's best friends, Like we

1446
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,759
Speaker 1: should go to the spots set there for three hours.

1447
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: I was just sitting look at the Warwick on the

1448
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: wall and the same spot. Oud, let me tell something

1449
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: about pimp. I'm gonna be honest with you. Pimp called niggas.

1450
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: They said, your enoymous and real niggas. You sure, They said,

1451
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 2: ye know, he's gonna go all out with you. He said,

1452
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: you sure, And then he still wanted to meet me.

1453
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: He still looked man me. And then he came and

1454
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 2: looked at me, and he was like, I'll walk with

1455
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: you anywhere. And I said, but that's what I appreciated,

1456
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Like I actually.

1457
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: Because very few people are genuine in this game, right,

1458
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: very few people are genuine. So like he was very excited,

1459
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: like yo to meet y'all, to meet y'all. You into

1460
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: in this particular, and you were who you were, right

1461
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: because a lot of people I'm not gonna put. Yeah,

1462
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not gonna put your own blast, but

1463
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that are not who

1464
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: they say they are. And when you took me to that,

1465
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: that's why I always go back to when you took

1466
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: me to that. I was like, Yo, I took a loop,

1467
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: big Sean, I took everything. I picked him up from

1468
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: the airport where you want to go to go here

1469
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: and fried chicken, got here, barbecue, go here, and see

1470
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: this screw shop. Get in my call with me.

1471
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 2: It's me and you.

1472
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you anywhere you want to go, and

1473
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: you and you good. And that was because Nord took

1474
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: me to Left Rack and was exactly where he was

1475
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be in Left Rack.

1476
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 2: No, I thank you Bomp so much for describing that book.

1477
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 2: But it was so beautiful when I met Pimp, because

1478
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 2: Pimp said, listen, everybody told me a real nigga, but

1479
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 2: you're not a real nigga. To go Sonniga. So I

1480
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: was like, damn, my brother.

1481
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: My brother was very literal, so I had to go.

1482
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: I went to sound On so I will never forget this.

1483
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 2: I still did for three hours, and he kept looking

1484
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: at him like the nigga never lost no, And I'm

1485
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: looking at it.

1486
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 5: This funny because it's funny because I knew he's not

1487
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 5: lying and I wasn't there, And that's what's funny because

1488
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 5: in those moments like it's very important for pimp to

1489
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 5: be like because the reality for pimp is like when

1490
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 5: I come to New York and you say you that dude,

1491
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 5: I give my life.

1492
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: You know, I don't go to every hood. The last

1493
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: time after you the only hood I went to instead

1494
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 1: till three in the morning with Chicago.

1495
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yes, you know.

1496
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: I love Chicago's work.

1497
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: I love Chicago. We lived in the hood, shot the

1498
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: video late in the morning.

1499
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: And who is in the artists? Yeah, this is my man,

1500
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: j Ortis. I can't think of the names right now. Damn,

1501
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: you're up.

1502
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 2: I know, I'm fucked up, fucked up dreaming from Chicago.

1503
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: There's two dudes different, but the two dudes diffrom Chicago.

1504
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 1: Damn, I can't think of the names.

1505
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 2: One one light skinned with braids, the others dark skin

1506
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: with short hair.

1507
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: And my man came on in the hood is niggas

1508
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: And you're go, yo, budd, let me just tell you

1509
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: somethingbody boy, there you l E p bogus l E.

1510
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: That's what we.

1511
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: Got it all. But let me tell you something, Budy,

1512
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 2: you are one of the most respected people, one of

1513
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: the most respected.

1514
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: Are that segretament.

1515
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: You are one of the most respected individuals, and we

1516
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: want to continue to respect you.

1517
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: But in order to do that, I gotta still be

1518
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: who I'm supposed to be. You ain't supposed to respect

1519
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: somebody just because of what they did. You gotta maintain

1520
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: and respect people because of what they're doing. Because if

1521
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: people continue to if we continue to give people credit

1522
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: based on what they did, they gonna keep leaning on

1523
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: that and they ain't gonna improve themselves. I gotta improve myself.

1524
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: I gotta keep making sure that I'm who I'm supposed

1525
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: to be. For niggas, see, we're locked in on the

1526
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: moment we had ten twelve years ago, and we respect

1527
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: each other on that moment. Other niggas ain't have that

1528
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: moment with me or you, so we still have to

1529
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: maintain that. I got to stop.

1530
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 2: Okay, got two different kinds of drunks.

1531
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: I love this nigga, This me and you at the

1532
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: bar right now. You know, real ship, This me and you.

1533
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: At the listener money, I got a platform, I got

1534
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 2: a format, and you know what I'm gonna do. I

1535
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: gotta stop you, okay, because you know why. You need

1536
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: to be respected, You need to be saluted. Ug K,

1537
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: bun Be everything you guys did to you. Take your

1538
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: hat off. Goddamn, we're gonna look look this, this is

1539
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 2: my towel. I'm gonna wipe your sweat. Listen, this is

1540
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: what you need to do. You need to sit here,

1541
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: you need to you need to be respected because you

1542
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: know why hip hop ship salute hip hop. And that's

1543
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: the part that we don't have. We don't have.

1544
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 5: You know what it is.

1545
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: People sit back and they say, Ah, this guy is

1546
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: this guy, this guy is this guy, and that's not

1547
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: what happening.

1548
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1549
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 2: We just recently went to Atlanta, hung out with Big Boy,

1550
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 2: I hung out with ce Lo, I hung out and

1551
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 2: now we're hanging out with motherfucking butt Be and but

1552
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: Be can never, ever, ever, ever, ever in his life

1553
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: come to New York. And I feel appreciated, especially when

1554
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm in New York. And you know why because a

1555
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: lot of motherfuckers might not say, you know what, UGK

1556
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 2: raised us, but that's them niggas.

1557
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: It's not me.

1558
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: You GK fucking raised us.

1559
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: Yo, and you know how how important he is to

1560
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: the culture and how much you respect.

1561
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: Before you go in.

1562
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: Before you go in, I want to get you. I

1563
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: love because you and RP Prodigy y'all was young niggas. Yep,

1564
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we started as young

1565
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: niggasp and that was something that we respected from y'all.

1566
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: That was so because Pemp I was I was nineteen

1567
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: and Pemp was eighteen.

1568
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 2: When heard us. I was seventeen, you were seventeen. You

1569
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1570
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: Pemp was literally like, Yo, am I gonna go and

1571
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: get Am I gonna graduate from high school and make music? Right?

1572
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And I had just graduated.

1573
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: I was like, am I gonna go to college? I'm

1574
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: gonna make music? And both of us like, Yo, we're

1575
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: gonna get this shit a year. If not, we're gonna

1576
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: do whatever. And the day before we made this decision.

1577
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: After I graduated on May on April thirtieth, and on

1578
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 1: what I mean it was me no, it was April thirtieth,

1579
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: and literally went to New York a year late. On

1580
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: April thirtieth and signed a record deal on May first

1581
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 1: with Joh with Joah, and from that point on, we

1582
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: made a decision either way that we were going to

1583
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: ride that shit out together. And I've been riding for

1584
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: my nigga hard for me when he was here.

1585
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: Well, what I want to say is because you cut

1586
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: me off. He cut me off. He cut me. No,

1587
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 2: you cut me off. And but but I'm gonna tell

1588
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: you something fun. Me and this brother right here, we

1589
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 2: started this podcast because we wanted to respect legends. And

1590
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 2: we could have been dead, because you know why these

1591
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: guys want the new guys. But me and him stuck

1592
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: to our guns. And when we started this, we want

1593
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: to big up brothers like you, brothers like brothers like

1594
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: mg K, I'm excuse me, I said, it was just me.

1595
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: But listen. And the thing about it is, this is

1596
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: exactly what hip hop has to do. They keep telling me,

1597
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: They say, you know why dream Champs work. I met

1598
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: with Leo Cohens and you know what Leol Cohens told me.

1599
01:19:55,960 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: He said, because you're a legend, big enough legends. And

1600
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 2: I said, Leo, I wanted to tell him to shut up,

1601
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 2: but then I said, I think he's right that's what

1602
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: we gotta keep doing.

1603
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: But God bless you, but.

1604
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: We're going tonight. We are celebrating Bun mofucking beef.

1605
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: Old on. Let me get let me get mine off. Please,

1606
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: let me get mine off. Okay, because you we met

1607
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: and left racket that time and from that point on,

1608
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: you know, like the DJs, we the background. You know

1609
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Sometimes we get overlooked over here, Like

1610
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 3: as a fan, I'm sitting here looking at you artists

1611
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 3: talking about it. I'm I'm a fan, so I'm gona

1612
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: tay cared, I'm gonna listen to this, take it all in.

1613
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1614
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: And you guys have all these stories, but little do

1615
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: people know the work y'all doing behind the scenes and

1616
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: helping other people out. But no problem when I call

1617
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: Bun up. Back in those days, I don't know how

1618
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,080
Speaker 3: we email or text.

1619
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Or I knew where you were going.

1620
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I need I need a freestyle for

1621
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: the mixtape bomb. I need another one for the mixtape bomb.

1622
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 3: He sends me pro tool sessions. I said, I got

1623
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 3: an artist. Can I use one of these sessions and

1624
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: make a track.

1625
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: And keeping it real? And this is a legend. You

1626
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1627
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 3: Already, bomb go ahead into it, you know what I'm saying.

1628
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 3: And then on the recent album I did in twenty fifteen,

1629
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 3: hit him up. Same thing never changed.

1630
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: I still got the thank you.

1631
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: I still and you know, I just want to say

1632
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: thank because I know I'm probably not the only DJ

1633
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 3: that you were supporting, and from from all the DJs,

1634
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: I want to thank you as well.

1635
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: But it was very genuine because there's a million motherfuckers

1636
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: that wrap you know, and you were very adamant on

1637
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: your projects that you wanted me, and it was a

1638
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: very unique place. And it wasn't a thing of you

1639
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: wanted me because I was hired or any of that.

1640
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: It was like, Yo, I got something. I want people

1641
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: to know. It's a good project, bun, can you give

1642
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: me something. I just want to support you, for sure.

1643
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,560
Speaker 1: I always always have a moment. I always talk about it,

1644
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: but I always about e f N in a way

1645
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: that people probably now talk about cal it because of

1646
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: the genus spirit and everybody that's ever given anything that

1647
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: e FNS never asked for. Really, I don't know, but

1648
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody's giving it you because they don't

1649
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: they genialely like you as a person, you know what

1650
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's when I saw him. I was like, Yo,

1651
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: look what life is taking us. You know what I'm saying,

1652
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: Look how this ship came all the way around. Because everybody,

1653
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 1: and I told you this earlier, Come on, everybody wants

1654
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: to win a certain way. And you might be set

1655
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: up to win, but not in the way that you

1656
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: want to win. But if you leave yourself open to things,

1657
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I know I can

1658
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 1: guarantee neither one of you niggas thought y'all was gonna

1659
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: win on this podcast, you know what I'm saying. But

1660
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: but but y'all did it because like, you know what,

1661
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: with you, you fuck with me. We're gonna get on

1662
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: this mic and we're gonna hold each other down. And

1663
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 1: the way it's taking and it's very it's it's very

1664
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: nice to see when when would be like, Yo, we're

1665
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: just gonna ride this out and see what happens, you

1666
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and then and then it ends

1667
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 1: up getting it checked just being real. Shout out to revolt, Yeah, yeah,

1668
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what you shout out to rock because

1669
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucked up.

1670
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 2: You got a big up rock for that.

1671
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: You can't you can't not shout them out for that.

1672
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 2: Big them up.

1673
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: Got a big, biggest shout out to wife you because

1674
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: she she's here.

1675
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: And you look it up.

1676
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: She's like, he's been drunk somebody. I'm just throwing it

1677
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: out there in Houston drunk. But it's good because I'm

1678
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: sweating too, so I'm not a drunk as that should

1679
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: are you doing?

1680
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1681
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 1: You know what we're going to do with pulling the

1682
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: premium feed.

1683
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: Back because I want to say that that he inspired

1684
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: teach to chef teach to get involved with the food

1685
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 3: drunk and all that. Like you, I know I've seen

1686
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: it in some way that you helped inspire.

1687
01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: That's my brother.

1688
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: He is a good dude and teachers in the place

1689
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 1: where he had made money. He was successful, manage a

1690
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: pit bull, he had made money or whatever, but there

1691
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: wasn't any personal fulfillment for him. And he was like, well,

1692
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: what do you what do you like to do? I

1693
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: like to cook. You need to cook for niggas, Like

1694
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: when I come to Miami, cook for me. He cooked,

1695
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: and like you can actually really cook and I was like,

1696
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: if this is what you want to do, you should

1697
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: follow this, because if you don't do this, you're going

1698
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: to spend money doing something else, and you're going to

1699
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 1: regret not doing it doing something that you really love

1700
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: to do. If you're going to take the money that

1701
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: you've worked hard for yourself and your family, if you're

1702
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 1: going to put that on the line, it should be

1703
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 1: for something and that you believe it in your heart

1704
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: and above everything else. He loved to cook and he's

1705
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: got fulfillment now. And it's not just about money. I

1706
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: used to think shit was about money. And there was

1707
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I miss moments with my wife,

1708
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: almost with my kids, you know, just being real your wife.

1709
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I love that. That's how it's not just it's there

1710
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: were things that that I felt like, I'm like, yo,

1711
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: I need I need to make sure they can live

1712
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 1: in a certain house. I need to make sure they

1713
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: can wear certain clothes, they can go to certain places.

1714
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: But it wasn't really about that, you know what I'm saying.

1715
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: It was about living life for personal fulfillment, Like what

1716
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: do we enjoy as a family, what do we enjoy

1717
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 1: as a couple, what do we enjoy from the parent

1718
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the child dynamic. And if you don't really stick to that,

1719
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose it. Because the ship that we do

1720
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: is designed to prop you up. I designed to prop

1721
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,560
Speaker 1: the couple of us, the parent up, is designed to

1722
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: prop you up. You gotta find it in yourself to

1723
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: be like yo, I gotta make sure that I'm still

1724
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: a husband to my wife, I'm still a father to

1725
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: my kids. I'm still a brother to my friends. Because

1726
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: this game is like you know what. I know, you

1727
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: got your crew with you, but you're the ship. This

1728
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: ship is about you. They need you. I wouldn't be

1729
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: here if it wasn't them.

1730
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm doing with my full show. They

1731
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: told me on my full show, I could I could

1732
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 2: have listen on my full show. I could have did anything,

1733
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 2: but I hired I hired about list six six different people.

1734
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I could have did love and hip hop.

1735
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: But if I did love and hip hop, yo.

1736
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Don't even get I would I would bring my wife

1737
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: up here right out. Let me feel like they started.

1738
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: If I would have did loving hip hop, you wouldn't

1739
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: have seen him. You want to see him. And guess

1740
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 2: what if I was the love of hip hop. They

1741
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: didn't want me to do drink champs.

1742
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: And shout out to I got nothing against more than

1743
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: them right and what they do. But I didn't know

1744
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: that every time they wanted to, like after loving hip

1745
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: hop New York, before they went to Atlanta and Hollywood,

1746
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: they came to Houston the third and the first people

1747
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: they was like, yo, man bum being, we want you

1748
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: and your wife. We looked at everything and we made

1749
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: the conscious decision is the family we don't need that.

1750
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: It's not worth it.

1751
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't want your wife fighting nobodycause I'm gonna shoot whoever.

1752
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Don't let me.

1753
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm sorry say.

1754
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: To fall, but we're a real family, right, were real

1755
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying anybody else in your real family,

1756
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: but we're a real family.

1757
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: And we didn't need that family. We didn't need that.

1758
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: No disrespect to that. We just didn't need that, you know.

1759
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that people that did it like

1760
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: we're not saying it like that, you know, but that

1761
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: was something that was like, you know what we have

1762
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: our family.

1763
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: Nobody knows the dynamic and our family and just say,

1764
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry, I gotta cut you off.

1765
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: A cigarette. Listen what we're trying to do.

1766
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 2: We're trying to change black media because black media need

1767
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: to be controlled by black media.

1768
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: Did that make Did that make sense? Do you want

1769
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: to say say we want to change media and then

1770
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: media change?

1771
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: You know, us as the us, as the creative people

1772
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: in the world, we don't have to change anything. All

1773
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: we got to do is continue to.

1774
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 1: Be who we need to own what we do is.

1775
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: We just need to own what we do. But because

1776
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: they can't sell nothing without us. We would love to

1777
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 1: get you on your wife's podcast together on TV. We

1778
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: would love to do that on film because she loved that.

1779
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: I think a long credit. She's fine, because that's the

1780
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: only reason why we haven't done it, because at the

1781
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, we never had EP credit. We

1782
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: would never get EP credits, so we wouldn't do it.

1783
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: If we're gonna put our family out to the world,

1784
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: then we need to be in control of the vision. Okay,

1785
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm not because I'm not here for nigga to go

1786
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 1: to dinner with my wife and have a nice dinner

1787
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: and somebody come in and have a fight.

1788
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: Were talking about are we talking about the buns? Camera?

1789
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, shout out with I want to buy that.

1790
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 1: And there's a name, but I'm not gonna say it

1791
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: right now because somebody's gonna try to go there. If

1792
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: I say the name right now on this, on this thing,

1793
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: they'll go there. I'm gonna tell you.

1794
01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Don't say the name.

1795
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you no, no, no, tell a lot. I know,

1796
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: I tell you, mhm. I like the blood called Puff.

1797
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Tell Puff in his ear. We're gonna drink Summer Colada

1798
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: because it's my wife drinking.

1799
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Listen, this is how we do it.

1800
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 1: We only do it unless my wife controls it because

1801
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: my wife has my family's best I love it.

1802
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 2: I love it.

1803
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't know at this. My wife is the business. Yes,

1804
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: let me tell you before we go. No, I want

1805
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: to tell this story before we go. Him's locked up

1806
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 1: in jail's getting ready to start Bad boys out. Puff

1807
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: comes to Houston. That's a big party. That's why she's laughing.

1808
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: It's real. Ship Puff comes, Pump said. But I'm not

1809
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 1: talking to you, talking to the wife because the wife

1810
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: friends of the White friends and ship Puff officer. This

1811
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: seven figures. You're like, yo, I want to give bun this.

1812
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: I want to give pimp this, I want this this

1813
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: and that that that that we go home. My wife

1814
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we should do this.

1815
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: We need you.

1816
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: Why you're not doing this? I whispered in my wife's ill,

1817
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: like I whispered in your ear. Wife's like, I'm with you,

1818
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm here right now doing dream tramps.

1819
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: In that moment, like real shit, real nigga shit. In

1820
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: that moment, we went home after the club for in

1821
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: a moment in the barroom, why are we not why

1822
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 1: are we're not doing it? Let's go, let's move. I

1823
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 1: whispering that my wife's ill like I whispered in your ear,

1824
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm here today. No, no hold up.

1825
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: And at some point in my life between that and today,

1826
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: it's nobody's business. Between that point and today, my wife

1827
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: whispered in my head and that's why we're.

1828
01:30:53,680 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 2: Wife. You listen right, yeah, right now, I don't know

1829
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: my wife.

1830
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: When I leave here, my wife will be like if

1831
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: I lie, my wife would be like, I respect that.

1832
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I respect that.

1833
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: And listen. And if you from hip hop, if you

1834
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: from Houston, from the South, if you're from anywhere else

1835
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 2: in the world, and you understand who this man is

1836
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 2: We support him, we salute him, we respect him. He

1837
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 2: had one of the most controversy to artists in the world,

1838
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: and he stood there and he stood by him the

1839
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: same way as me still do. No no, I think

1840
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 2: he won like he won. He won't way more than

1841
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: But the fact that is, bun Be, we can't thank

1842
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 2: you enough. We want to stand up. We're gonna salute you.

1843
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: Because I came to dream Camps and got drunk and

1844
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what the crazy shi it is.

1845
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about your new album. You have

1846
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 2: a new album, have a new album.

1847
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: Talking about the EP is called extended Play.

1848
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Extended Play extend. When does it come out?

1849
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: August twenty ninth?

1850
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Fat on it?

1851
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 1: Because yeah, but you'll see that in August twenty ninth,

1852
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: because bub Day in Houston.

1853
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Because Bumbie Day Houston.

1854
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 1: Ready for Because Bumbie Day in Houston like the May

1855
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: and Houston gave me Bumby Day on August thirtieth.

1856
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 2: There's the deeper story to that, but I save it

1857
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 2: to the book I'm Coming.

1858
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm Coming so but the but Bumbie Day this year

1859
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: is a Wednesday. But we're gonna drop the album the

1860
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: EP on Tuesday, No, no, August twenty night, but we're

1861
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: gonna drop the EP before and then we're gonna go

1862
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: out and do the food bank and ship like that

1863
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: and things that we do because days not about me.

1864
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 1: It's about giving back to the community. For example, he's

1865
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: got my wife is like, Yo, we good once or twice.

1866
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: We need to step it up, kick it up and that. Nigga,

1867
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: this is what you need.

1868
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: This you need, you need. It's just problem. But every

1869
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: time you what you ask for us, every time you

1870
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,480
Speaker 2: have a humble moment.

1871
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: That is what I need.

1872
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 2: I need you to hit me because I don't want to.

1873
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 2: I want to be the opposite of your humble moment.

1874
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: So niggas be like and then you'll be like you

1875
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 2: know I'm good and now I just want to stand

1876
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 2: by you and be like, fuck.

1877
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Nigga, you know what you have to get behind her.

1878
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: That's going to.

1879
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Hire me to do it. I'm telling you, I'm telling you,

1880
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Signed me to listen. U g K bumbye.

1881
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: You should be celebrated everything in hip hop.

1882
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 1: It's shout out to you for being an entrepreneur because

1883
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: I know I know your shore, I know design for

1884
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: you to celebrate niggas. But I've known you, like dude,

1885
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: and even when I didn't know you, I knew you

1886
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 1: so I so when I met you, it was ship

1887
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: was obvious because I already knew the type of niggas y'all.

1888
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: But I gotta gotta but no, but Jr. John, you

1889
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: get you know, you get paid to celebrate niggas.

1890
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 2: This was on me, on me, you can't.

1891
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you can't pick me up. But it's important.

1892
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: It's important because I was telling my wife earlier. I said, Yo,

1893
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: I said, I said, no one's ever understood how smart

1894
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: no he is. I said, and that's why he's always

1895
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: got richer than anybody ever thought he was gonna get.

1896
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: I said, no, I need to put him on blast.

1897
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: But but Yo, but like he's so yeah, but no,

1898
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: but no, he is a genius. He's always going further

1899
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,480
Speaker 1: than anybody thought he was gonna go, which was surprising

1900
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: to me because I'm like, why no, No, she already knows.

1901
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: And I was like, yo, I was like, look at him. Now,

1902
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: he's got a fool jow, he's got the party, got

1903
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: all this other stuff was going. I was like this

1904
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: that I don't even know what I can say, what

1905
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 1: I can't say. I don't even know what I can't say,

1906
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 1: what I can't sit. But the reality is is that

1907
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: people look at us being from certain environments, being from

1908
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: certain neighborhoods, and putting limitations on us, and so many

1909
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: times we accept those limitations. Damn. But you know what

1910
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's beautiful to see somebody like Norrid

1911
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: that has never accepted what people said he was supposed

1912
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: to be. And you look, I know it's you know,

1913
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: he's not a person that shits on people. But it's

1914
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: got to be very interesting to look back everybody that

1915
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: not only shouted on me, but like was like this

1916
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: was luck or this was this was timing or whatever.

1917
01:35:58,160 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, light he knew.

1918
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 2: Damn God bless.

1919
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Can I say that? Yes? Please, Christ you can say

1920
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 1: everything you want, just being real, Chrystal, I just want

1921
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 1: to say that Chris new. But I'm just saying, nobody

1922
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: ever knew that they didn't want to if they knew,

1923
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: they didn't want to give credit. And I dealt with

1924
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: that in my career. Niggas had an idea of what

1925
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: we would do, But niggas would never give us credit.

1926
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 1: And it's amazing to see what Noorri has done because

1927
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Norri has been Norri. This is the same dude I

1928
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 1: said in Love for I could the same dude I

1929
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: was in the studio with. You know, this was who

1930
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 1: I anticipated on meeting and that's who we ended up being,

1931
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: and that's who he still is. And people don't realize

1932
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: everybody is fighting. I just want to say this, and

1933
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I could be out of pocket. Niggas are

1934
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: fighting to get on Drink Champs and I can show

1935
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you and I can show you my phone, and literally

1936
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: every seven to ten days, I'm begging, yo, whenever you're

1937
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: ready to come on Drink Champs. How many people get

1938
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 1: called by the top one of the top podcast in

1939
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: the country, Yo, bun, what are you doing? Yo? Where

1940
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: you are? I'm in New York. That's the only reason

1941
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm here is because we were talking.

1942
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: This week and he was like, Yo, you're making them

1943
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: up to you.

1944
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: Let's be real. Let's be real. You like, he was like, Yo,

1945
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to Miami. I'm in New York right now.

1946
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 1: Can't you get to Miami. I'm like, I don't know.

1947
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: And then literally the next day I got called to

1948
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: come and do it short in New York. And then

1949
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: the day after they got booked, I called nerves like, Yo,

1950
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,760
Speaker 1: you're in New York to the twelfth right, I'm gonna

1951
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: be in New York this week. And that's why I'm

1952
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 1: on the microphone right now because my man left this

1953
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 1: door open, and as soon as I had opportunity and

1954
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: called him, I walked right through. Yeah.

1955
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 2: But in all due respect, Bun, I just I really

1956
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: appreciate the love that you just gave me. But I

1957
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: just want you to never ever aver Avera, not remember

1958
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 2: who you are.

1959
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: That's why my wife is here. And you know why

1960
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: straight up because the game, with the game design to.

1961
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 2: Take you away from that a totally different aspect of life.

1962
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 2: What UGK did to us, what you guys gave to

1963
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,839
Speaker 2: the music community, I could never thank.

1964
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 3: You, no.

1965
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 1: But we looked as a two man group, we looked

1966
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 1: at everybody looked at you and compunkfore us. You know

1967
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I'm saying as through longevity and

1968
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: throughout the game, there was always a dynamic that we

1969
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: could look at. When we started, Motherfucker had a bum

1970
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Bee Pimps run DMC. There's always been something that we

1971
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: could look at. Run DMC was the first EPM D.

1972
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, even Houdini and

1973
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 1: different groups like that, we would look at like the

1974
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: two man group and need not just because there were

1975
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: two men, because you could put those two people in

1976
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 1: the room and leave with an album. And that's where

1977
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: the dynamic with Gang Star comes in, the dynamic with

1978
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 1: Mob Deep comes in with p m D comes in.

1979
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: Who's got the producing a MC. Put them dudes in

1980
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: the room, they come out with an album, you know

1981
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But even deeper than that, put these

1982
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: two dudes in the room, you come out with a

1983
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: movement component or yegg. Then this nigga, his nigga killed it.

1984
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: He killed it. That's why I keep my room and

1985
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: my wife in the room with me because me too.

1986
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:23,679
Speaker 1: I can't.

1987
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: I can't lie because she's gonna sit right there and

1988
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 2: if I try to lie, she don't look.

1989
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: No, sir, God bless her. Okay, So here here's the deal, Yo,

1990
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm so drunk right now, I'm almost certain they can't

1991
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 1: There can't be anything.

1992
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 4: Is that bar open downstairs?

1993
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 2: Killing right now? We can go downstairs. But I ain't

1994
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: gonna lie to you.

1995
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1996
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough. Because the thing about it is,

1997
01:39:56,320 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: people think that your soul because because how upfront Pep.

1998
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Was, people think that you're like.

1999
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Like you.

2000
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 2: You won't even answer a question because I don't.

2001
01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't talk, I know, but I'm your brother. I

2002
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: talk to you. You know what I'm saying. I'm talking

2003
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 1: to you. I'm talking to you, but in the physic,

2004
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: in the physical world, in the physical world like me

2005
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: and my me and my in my better half. Yes,

2006
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: I walk in any room and walk out. Yes, yes,

2007
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: meanhin God, we walk in any room and walk out.

2008
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,639
Speaker 1: I never let me tell you all the Iller Ship,

2009
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: my brother ever said all that fly Ship and minkazin

2010
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,440
Speaker 1: the ill Ship Pimp ever said was I don't need bodyguards.

2011
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 2: I just need Mighty God, Mighty God.

2012
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 1: That's it.

2013
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 2: That's it.

2014
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 1: And ever since he said that, and I never told him,

2015
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: I moved like that. I knew then I didn't need

2016
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 1: nobody with me. I didn't need nobody if you wasn't

2017
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: moving with me within God, I just move on myself,

2018
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: you know.

2019
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 2: And it's and it's that the way hip hop should be.

2020
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 1: That's the way no, because that's the way life should be, right,

2021
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, that's the way life should be. Like you

2022
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: don't need people to show who you are. Prove who

2023
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you are if you or you say you are, and

2024
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 1: you honoring that in a real way, you can move

2025
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 1: anywhere in this world. And Pep and I proof of that.

2026
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: I was telling a story earlier to Jump and Eric

2027
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: about we came to New York. We got signed, people like,

2028
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 1: y'all want to go to Haller. I was like, let's

2029
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,680
Speaker 1: go to Haller. So we took a cab from the

2030
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: hotel and were like, he was like, where you want

2031
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 1: to go? Were like, we want to go to hall

2032
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: The cab drop us off on Amsterdam in one twenty

2033
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: fifth and just me and Pim get out of the

2034
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 1: cab and that's what we are. There's a barbershop. This

2035
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: is nineteen ninety two. There's a barber shop on one

2036
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: twenty fifth and Amsterdam. We go in the barbershop, we

2037
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: get a I gotta get you.

2038
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 2: I love you, brother, you know how much you've been

2039
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 2: through people.

2040
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 1: We're trying to talk and it's funny because we're trying

2041
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:13,040
Speaker 1: to talk about it on here. I know, I know exactly.

2042
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 1: We can't talk about the studio session. We talk about

2043
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: how crazy you got in the hood, your shot, no man,

2044
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: that slap dude behind that tongue ring, like twenty five

2045
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: now you're fifteen.

2046
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 2: But I can't. I can't thank you enough. We'll be

2047
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,679
Speaker 2: just talking about understand and fuck all this other ship.

2048
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: No, but it's important for people to see me cry

2049
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: because this is what they don't get to see. Right.

2050
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Hip hop is designed for ego, like all of that.

2051
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: But when you love people and you think about them

2052
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: and they're not next to you and you can't be

2053
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: next to them, you're supposed to be like And so

2054
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: that's why I love talking through it. I love crying

2055
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: while I'm talking about something because that lets people know

2056
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: honest we are about what we're talking about.

2057
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know think about it is

2058
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 2: it's like we just lost prodigy, so we can't act

2059
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 2: having right now the same way we could ask.

2060
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: You when yeah you can't, I can talk now I

2061
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 1: can talk. He's here and it's not like and see

2062
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: people think you get choked up when it's like, yo,

2063
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: how you feel about No, I think about the little

2064
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: moments that's what choked you up, not about you know,

2065
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: it's for me. When I think about Pimp, I think

2066
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: about this new cause and he wanted to say that

2067
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 1: he would have bought when I look at the when

2068
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 1: I look at the Raiths, yo, like for real, like

2069
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 1: like people don't realize when Pim pulled up and the

2070
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: bands that he's in in Big Pimping, he was the

2071
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: first person on the street with that car. He was

2072
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: in Miami with that car. I remember Ray Kwan coming

2073
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: up to him. I remember fact Joe coming up to him.

2074
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 1: Because people don't realize that I forgot what this because

2075
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: it costs ring bling out. But it was loud weekend

2076
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: back then. The first time they did that in Miami,

2077
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: it was like it was a loud artist thing. So

2078
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,919
Speaker 1: the chef was in town, Joe was in town, everybody

2079
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: and we're on Colin and Pepper just got that joint

2080
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: and nobody had that joint, you know what I'm saying.

2081
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: So it was a very very fantastic and they put

2082
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Pimp and people did. This was before Big Pepper, so

2083
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: it let people know exactly what type of duty was,

2084
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't like I

2085
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: got it before you was like I got what y'all got.

2086
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: Were from the South.

2087
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: We we do.

2088
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 1: We can do anything anybody else could do, you know

2089
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it was the honesty about Pimp

2090
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: that I think gets gets missed about the legacy. It's

2091
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 1: a fault almost.

2092
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing about you, guys. It's like when

2093
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 2: I met you, asked you, I swear to God, this

2094
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: is the realst beautiful thing. Pemper was like, tell Lurid

2095
01:44:55,240 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 2: come in the studios the studio, listen this nigga and

2096
01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 2: realized every aspect of me. But that's exactly what I

2097
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: would have. Did you understand, Like out of this same

2098
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 2: as actual Pimp looked at me, he was like it's

2099
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 2: and I was like damn. And then we fund through each.

2100
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Other the whole night like this, and you people would

2101
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: never know how close this group was, like Kine and

2102
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Copona no Jega, because when people look at people, they

2103
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 1: think people are close because they do a bunch of songs,

2104
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of songs, you know what I'm saying. But

2105
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: the real people that really have friendships in music, they

2106
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: don't even really do music together. We talk about family,

2107
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,919
Speaker 1: we talk about children, we talk about contracts and legacy

2108
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: and shit like real life ship, you don't be like yo,

2109
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 1: let's do this and let's start this. That's not what

2110
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 1: real people do. Real people like Yo, record companies flaking

2111
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 1: on me, like and my ain r he only live

2112
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: like ten minutes? How should I move on this? And

2113
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 1: but like yo, I want to go to the label

2114
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: and let like fifty rats loops like he's not gonna

2115
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,120
Speaker 1: do this. They got rats is New York up there

2116
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: they got they got rat And.

2117
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 2: But let me tell you something, Bun, I can't thank

2118
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 2: you so much too drunk. No no, no, no, but listen,

2119
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 2: I am not you. I can't thank you so much

2120
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 2: because no, we all drink Champs, drink Champs, drink Champs Finishes,

2121
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 2: drink Champs Ching Men's drink Jamp. The thing is this,

2122
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,560
Speaker 2: We ain't these other shows here. We want to like

2123
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, pull up gossip and all this ship. All

2124
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:43,799
Speaker 2: we want to do is represent our hip hop legends.

2125
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 2: And today we're not only big enough you, but we're

2126
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 2: also big enough your brother who's not here, Pempsy. And

2127
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,920
Speaker 2: we're also big enough Prodigy because Prodigy is not here,

2128
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 2: and we understand exactly what you guys are going through

2129
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: right now for real with you, for real, and this

2130
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 2: is drink Champs, and Drink Champs is only to big

2131
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 2: up hip hop fuck everything else about life.

2132
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: Hip Hop should be saluted.

2133
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Every fucking day.

2134
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 1: There's a war going on.

2135
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 2: But Bud, I thank you so much.

2136
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: I think so much, Yo, Bun, I thank you so

2137
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: much for being the last too, because I feel like

2138
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: my son is coming up in a little and there's

2139
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: no way I can thank you so much.

2140
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 2: Me e fen together. The fact that you came to

2141
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 2: left right with me, you hang off and that was

2142
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:53,759
Speaker 2: the left right yesterday.

2143
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 1: This is a very ill like That's why I laughed

2144
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: so much when we were all standing in front of

2145
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 1: suite because I don't think anybody thought you would have

2146
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: been who you were going to be. I don't think

2147
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: nobody really thought like you thought and me like, and

2148
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: who we are not because of what we were then.

2149
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 1: That's the l ship. That's like, that's the L ship.

2150
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: Like we're not even who we are now because of

2151
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: who we were then, because we weren't scared to beat

2152
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: more than we are now. You know what I'm saying,

2153
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 1: That's why we are now talk man, so like you

2154
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 1: know what.

2155
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 2: You figure out.

2156
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm telling you, I'm so because I'm

2157
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 3: a fan of both and just just to know that

2158
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 3: when we all when I met Bun and left, like.

2159
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 2: That's such a memorable. I feel like I'm back in

2160
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 2: that moment and that's.

2161
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: And I see it like it was yesterday, and it's

2162
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:45,639
Speaker 1: it's like I said, this intricate season of that day

2163
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: that we could never.

2164
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 2: As deep as.

2165
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 1: And I tell people all the time about that story,

2166
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,439
Speaker 1: so it's so funny to talk about it here in

2167
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: this space because I talk about that story all the time, Like, Yo,

2168
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: you want to know what I really was in New York.

2169
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: You know I really was in New York.

2170
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 2: Please tell us something like like drinking belve that story.

2171
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: Like my my number one moment, and there's a lot,

2172
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: but just literally like turning up the belvet their bottle

2173
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: and then like I felt like I was in clock

2174
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 1: us because.

2175
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 5: The Niggas the DT started the corner and I'm like

2176
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:25,600
Speaker 5: it's one time, right, one time, like we're sitting there

2177
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 5: were in the corner and this is when Armadale Vodka

2178
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 5: is popping right like we're supporting rock. I'm sorry, we're

2179
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 5: supporting supporting Blackfastess like we are on that but that

2180
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 5: was the move Armadale.

2181
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 1: Right, So I'm in New York. I'm within no ready,

2182
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm drinking Armadale. Like Lawd's like, yo with you in

2183
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: dreams it goes over the store and that like not

2184
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 1: this side, like shout out the puff, but yo, we

2185
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: had the magnet. Just being real.

2186
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: We're in a hood.

2187
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 1: So i got this huge bottle of vodka and I'm like,

2188
01:49:58,280 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: it's just crazy.

2189
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 2: I member queens something left right.

2190
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: And then like just like Clock is in literally like

2191
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: the old school, like it's literally what my man was

2192
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: driving past your boy Clocks. He's in the same detective

2193
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 1: like Lincoln car and I'm like, really, word, that's what

2194
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: you came to New York for. And he's like, now

2195
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 1: you good, you go, And apparently I was good. But yeah,

2196
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 1: but I watched a couple of dudes get slapped.

2197
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 8: Somebody shot five Well, a couple of dudes got shot

2198
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,080
Speaker 8: to fire you it was it really, I was like,

2199
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 8: damn not because it happened.

2200
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this is the same ship that if

2201
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: I was on this corner and you're right and this

2202
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the same ship would have happened. And the whole night.

2203
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 2: As the night progressed, I'm like the world's the ghetto,

2204
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 2: that's all he said.

2205
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 5: And you know, like that's exactly what we should Nothing

2206
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 5: scared me, nothing surprised me, exactly. You know what I'm saying.

2207
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 5: You under scanned me. Nothing surprised me. I'm like, I'm

2208
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 5: gonna tell this funny story.

2209
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: Please. One of the first things that happened, little man

2210
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: comes up. Nois like yo, but just so you know,

2211
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,600
Speaker 1: little man, what we don't do when we eat bananas,

2212
01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: we don't eat hot dogs. I'm like, this is crazy

2213
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: because you asked a little dude from where I grew

2214
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: up and if you want to popstor and they would

2215
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: look at your crazy, right. And it's not that there's

2216
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: anything wrong with eating pop soup right in general.

2217
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 2: It's just that's against my rules. Continue. But it was

2218
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 2: very funny, like and he's looking at noid the whole time.

2219
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 1: He said, and kid was less than twelve, and then

2220
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 1: the kid let's did something, and then the kid less

2221
01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: than they did something.

2222
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, together finished, but listen, you know what I

2223
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 2: ate downstairs? I eat a hot dog, but everything on

2224
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: it no hot dog. Fact, what did I eat downstairs.

2225
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 2: Everything hot dog, I get a hot dog.

2226
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 1: Okay, continue, there's nothing saying that the same note the

2227
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 1: same to the white.

2228
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. This is not the back

2229
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 2: in the days. Oh, this is not nowadays. When I

2230
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 2: asked bum Bee to come to my hood. This wasn't

2231
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 2: the nice food.

2232
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: This was the That was when niggas was like, yo,

2233
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, these buildings got underground. Niggas is like shooting niggas,

2234
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: Like yo, if they come, just run with follow me.

2235
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:38,599
Speaker 1: All we gotta do is make.

2236
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,480
Speaker 2: It to the buildings.

2237
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: Like all we gotta do.

2238
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 2: They said, oh, we understand this.

2239
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: They said, all we gotta do is make it to

2240
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 1: the building because they cause they ain't gonna know if

2241
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 1: we go up or go down. So we're good left right,

2242
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: got underground ship. So like yo, that was that time

2243
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: and the hood and it was literally were like yo,

2244
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 1: if anything happened, just run with us. It was a

2245
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: time and all we got to do is make it

2246
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: to the building. All you gotta do is make it

2247
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: to the building. And don't worry. Believe listen, I'm like okay,

2248
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: and I ain't got to bump me like I got

2249
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 1: it now, I got to tow him in this because

2250
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: so I ain't got to bump you. But they were

2251
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: like all we got to do because we're on the corner.

2252
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: We had a light and so it's a building right here.

2253
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: There's a building right there, and it's it's like, yo,

2254
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: be we're good. All we gotta do is make it

2255
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 1: to the building. They aint gonn know where we're going.

2256
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: The DT's got to catch us before we get in

2257
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: the building. Once we get in the building, they don't

2258
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:31,560
Speaker 1: know if we're going up or we're going down. Ineleo.

2259
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 2: It was beautiful because that's sorry, no, no, but that

2260
01:53:40,520 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 2: was the New York I wanted to see.

2261
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's when I wanted New York. I'm old

2262
01:53:44,960 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: enough to remember the warriors and ship, so New York

2263
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 1: had to be a certain way when I got here.

2264
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to Junior's cheek shout the puff,

2265
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:53,639
Speaker 1: but that's not what I wanted.

2266
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 4: I know, I'm taking a pacel right.

2267
01:53:57,160 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I did not, But we were very

2268
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 1: we were close to the buildings, so I wasn't tripping.

2269
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't tripping. But that's the one thing I remember,

2270
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 1: the stately yes, yo, So it's not like we were

2271
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 1: out there selling.

2272
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 2: Crack, but we were drinking big If it was selling cracks,

2273
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 2: who did I that I met out there?

2274
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 1: Are you talking about that?

2275
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 2: You talking about that?

2276
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: That's that's for the.

2277
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 2: First time that literally it's crazy show too, But she

2278
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 2: got real twelve o'clock c Yeah, so, bun Man, So

2279
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 2: what would you think before we get up out of here,

2280
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 2: what would PEPSI think of this whole generation right now?

2281
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 2: I think you think.

2282
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I think he would love the fact that young people

2283
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: are getting paid for the music because we used to

2284
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: have to try to figure out just how to get

2285
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,920
Speaker 1: paid for putting the record out. Nowadays you get paid

2286
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: for putting the record out from down roads, from streaming,

2287
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 1: all these other things, so you get paid off of

2288
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: one song ten different ways if you know how to

2289
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 1: work the game. You were just trying to figure out

2290
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 1: how to get paid from putting a record out. So

2291
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 1: I think, you know, from that aspect, he would be

2292
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: happy of the freedom that artists have. But on the

2293
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 1: other side, right, but on the other side, he would

2294
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,120
Speaker 1: be I think he would be disappointed in a lack

2295
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: of honesty.

2296
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 2: You know what lack of honesty?

2297
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, because we're here that like, right now, expose

2298
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 1: everything that's fake. But if you're fake, you can't expose

2299
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: anything because it would expose you. And that's what he

2300
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 1: would be disappointed about. Pemp never had a problem with

2301
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,240
Speaker 1: who people were. It was about people pretending about who

2302
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,600
Speaker 1: they were. That was his problem. You know what I'm saying.

2303
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: If you're a gamester, you a gang say, if you're

2304
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: a hipster, you a hipster, if you stray gay, whatever,

2305
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 1: just be who you tell me when I meet you.

2306
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 1: Just be that every time I see you, and I

2307
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: can live and if I like that, if I can

2308
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: accept that, I'm good with that.

2309
01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 2: But don't be ten thousand niggas told nor is the

2310
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 2: real nigga. He still wanted to meet that nigga said,

2311
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 2: I gotta meet you. He looked at me, said and

2312
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 2: then he hungered me the whole night.

2313
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: And it was it was funny because Pep was like, Yo, man,

2314
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that this niggas who we said the people.

2315
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 2: Said like he was.

2316
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that he was who he said he was.

2317
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: You and Keith mury you and keep murray or like

2318
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 1: what exactly who we where?

2319
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: He thought?

2320
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 1: What we thought that we want to be? You were

2321
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: everything we thought it was going to be.

2322
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 9: Saying right before you were saying, y'all went to fifth

2323
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 9: and y'all walking the ball happened.

2324
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: We went in there. We was like we were from

2325
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 1: Texas and he was like, you gotta be you know

2326
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was like what you're doing in

2327
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: the hall was like, we want to get a hair cut,

2328
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 1: we want to get weed, and we want to get

2329
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: some food, and niggas like, we just want to let me.

2330
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 2: Say something before you convince. Listen, pimp. See didn't give

2331
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 2: a fuck.

2332
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: Weald a.

2333
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 2: The way this and he checked me in New York.

2334
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 1: It's not like I was in Texas or in Houston.

2335
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 2: He said this. Niggas told me your real nigga. Pimp.

2336
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 2: He started rubbing his head like just and I said,

2337
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: I said, oh Ship, I've never been checked this way,

2338
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 2: so I just had to ride with it.

2339
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh yeah, yeah, definitely that what

2340
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 1: they told you.

2341
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, yeah, he said you're good, your real nigga,

2342
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 2: and I said yeah. He said I'm gonna make sure

2343
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 2: you're a real nigga all right, and oh Ship, yeah,

2344
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 2: and then he's like I'm gonna watch it. The whole night, okay,

2345
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 2: and then me and a nigga his best friends.

2346
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 1: But he definitely watched me the whole way.

2347
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 2: He made sure every real nigga that came around saluted me,

2348
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 2: and if they didn't, he looked at me and say,

2349
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 2: you make sure. And that's real ship because it was

2350
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 2: important for us.

2351
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 1: We were so far removed from a lot of ship.

2352
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: We moved a certain way, so it was like, man,

2353
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure then that niggas were around move

2354
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:20,520
Speaker 1: like we moved right, like it was never about worrying

2355
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: about drama be for none of that ship. Like, Yo,

2356
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna be around certain people. We gotta make sure

2357
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: we're around. We moved. It's just that simple. And if

2358
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: you're a real nigga, then you're gonna you don't even

2359
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: get offending due like, yo, we need to make sure

2360
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you real. You need to call. If you ain't got nothing,

2361
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 1: take my phone, you know, he said, He says, I'm

2362
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: still you can tell me everything.

2363
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 2: He said, I'm not.

2364
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: You gotta know. And that was a beautiful thing. Everything

2365
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 1: should come back right.

2366
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful thing, because everything right, and you know,

2367
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 2: and but let me just let me just tell you

2368
01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:04,040
Speaker 2: something run and hip hop. People don't big each other up.

2369
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 2: People don't sit there and say to you, but we

2370
01:59:08,640 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 2: love you and we love what you can contribute it

2371
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 2: to hip hop. We love what you gave to hip hop.

2372
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 2: We love you distributed to hip hop. And this is

2373
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 2: not the shows that you're on. This show that you're

2374
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 2: on right now is. We're gonna fucking salute that. But

2375
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 2: that's beautiful. We really, we really can't thank you enough.

2376
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna continue to support your ship. We're gonna blow

2377
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 2: up your fucking album and just came out us coming.

2378
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Out the singles out game. I guess when this comes

2379
01:59:37,560 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 1: out Game times out right now, not even a single.

2380
01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 3: Just.

2381
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:55,560
Speaker 4: Take over, okay, let them let me single.

2382
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:00,920
Speaker 2: We got that is a real DJ.

2383
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:03,960
Speaker 1: So like you know, you worked with him and you

2384
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 1: said that every time every time you like, you're still

2385
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 1: out Vinyl, Like a lot of niggas don't know what's like.

2386
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 9: You don't know Vineyl was what it is like, that

2387
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 9: was what the DJ's dream was, not just laptop ship.

2388
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 9: You know, freestyle cutting shit is so I know it's deep.

2389
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go and look on the Roden Dirty

2390
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:28,000
Speaker 1: album on the on the pictures on the insert, there's

2391
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: a picture of me, Pimsee and DJ Screw and there's

2392
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 1: a piece of vinyl behind him, and that's the test

2393
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 1: press from the first record we ever did. Because Screw

2394
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: was like he was the after I was DJ. So

2395
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: when I got the test press, I brought it to

2396
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: him because he was the only DJ I knew like mixing.

2397
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: So I used to go to the spot to shoot dice,

2398
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 1: so I brought it straight to him. It was like, yo,

2399
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 1: and this was old, this is ninety it's ninety two,

2400
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 1: like February ninety two. And I'm like, yo, play this,

2401
02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: let me know what you think. And I'm on the

2402
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 1: pool table shooting dice because that's why we had to

2403
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 1: shoot dice. And after I was on the pool time

2404
02:01:01,320 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 1: in the back and he plays the shit and niggas

2405
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 1: like it. He played again, I'm like, you'll keep that too,

2406
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 1: you can keep it popping. And I'm like, I'm one

2407
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 1: hundred miles away from where I grew up and I'm

2408
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: in the after hours at three in the one shooting dice.

2409
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Just to make sure my see what my record do

2410
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 1: to connect with people. And so Screw took that record

2411
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 1: and put it on the wall in the room where

2412
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 1: he mixed that. And when we went in that room,

2413
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 1: which is literally about eight years later, and we go

2414
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 1: in that room, No, he ain't pull it out because

2415
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: it's on the walls. So we literally posed in front

2416
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:35,680
Speaker 1: of the picture. And at this time he wasn't DJ

2417
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Screw when I gave him this record. He's just the

2418
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: After Hour DJ. We in the After Hour club. This

2419
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 1: is nineteen ninety two. Strippers are on like the dance floor,

2420
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: were shooting dice on the pool table in the back

2421
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:50,440
Speaker 1: of that bitch right next to Gallagher, my nigga, we're

2422
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:52,200
Speaker 1: shooting dice in that bitch at three in the morning.

2423
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 1: And he played my record and niggas there's probably forty

2424
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 1: niggas in the After Hours and he's like like this

2425
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: that shit tight play that you know, And I'm like,

2426
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 1: you might have some. And then three months later we

2427
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: in New York and Columbus Circle getting ready to go

2428
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: to Job Records on forty second when record were talking

2429
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:16,120
Speaker 1: tell me something good. I got the test press vinyl

2430
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:18,760
Speaker 1: and I brought it to the After Hours like my nigga,

2431
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 1: run that. Let me know what you think. You know

2432
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's amazing. One question, it's probably

2433
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a little weird. No, no, nothing is with

2434
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 1: because because I came to New York in ninety two

2435
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: before Giuliani, so I remember to Weir in New York.

2436
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 2: So after Pimp like because he went off right he said,

2437
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:45,920
Speaker 2: the time zones is different. Now, how was your.

2438
02:02:45,880 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Life after that?

2439
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 2: Because and then he made it clear he said, this

2440
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 2: is not this was This was not the first time

2441
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 2: that because he did it before.

2442
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 1: This is not the first time that pipp has said

2443
02:02:56,720 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 1: nothing that. I didn't know that, but I didn't know

2444
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 1: Pimp was going to say what he said. If you

2445
02:03:03,080 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 1: look at the wire, there's a moment where Big G says, well,

2446
02:03:08,760 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name, Slim Charles and on the wife,

2447
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: but it's it's Big G from DC. And he's like,

2448
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: even if it's a lie, we gotta ride on that line.

2449
02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying my brother lied, But no matter

2450
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 1: what my brother says in the moment, we got to

2451
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 1: move on that. Even if it's a lie, we're gonna

2452
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 1: have to go to war on that lot now where

2453
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 1: me and him get in the back room while the

2454
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 1: shooters in the front. Me and him gotta have words

2455
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 1: in the back about why we in this situation that's

2456
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 1: I love you. But the reality is, and there was

2457
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 1: a lot of moments where Pitt would be like you

2458
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 1: would get out there and be like, yo, you know what,

2459
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:51,800
Speaker 1: fuck so, and so my wife is right there, my wife, No,

2460
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a line. My wife is probably on the

2461
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:58,120
Speaker 1: side and be like, that's what we had today, you know,

2462
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:02,160
Speaker 1: and we go home and again, even if it ain't right,

2463
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 1: even if it's a misunderstanding in that moment, we got

2464
02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 1: to move on that. We got to move on that,

2465
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, And it was it was very rough for

2466
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 1: us as the family. And like that because I don't

2467
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't talk about a lot of because that s

2468
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: was real ship, you know what I'm saying. So I

2469
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: don't talk about a lot of this ship. I protect

2470
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,880
Speaker 1: the integrity in my family. But just the reality is

2471
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: that even if I didn't agree with Pimp, I was

2472
02:04:25,120 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: riding with Pimp. That was that wasn't even understood. I mean,

2473
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:32,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't even something that had to be understood. Whatever

2474
02:04:32,320 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: happens in that moment, like this is what we're saying.

2475
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,600
Speaker 1: But even if I didn't agree, also in that movement,

2476
02:04:38,760 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 1: if we're in front of niggas he anticipations.

2477
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 2: Beginning, said, Bunny, gotta learn to do it.

2478
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: But I always had something to do. You knew you

2479
02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:54,200
Speaker 1: had because it was my little brother, Damn.

2480
02:04:55,000 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, My older brother, Pimples younger

2481
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 5: than me, components older than me.

2482
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:06,480
Speaker 1: So my whole thing with Pimple was like I understand

2483
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 1: that understood. There were things he didn't really understand about,

2484
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: certain things about how to handle shit. Pemple had what

2485
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 1: they he didn't have what they call inner dialogue, right, Like,

2486
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 1: I feel this way about this person. Should I say this?

2487
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: Should I not say? That didn't even exist? That didn't

2488
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 1: even exist. I got to address this right here, right now.

2489
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: So that would whether that was a rapper, a nigga

2490
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:33,920
Speaker 1: on the street, whether it was the CEO, yes, yeah, yeah,

2491
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: But even if that was like Barry White's to see

2492
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 1: you on the record company, it would be. I remember

2493
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 1: being in a room with like the person that determines

2494
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: my future, right.

2495
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 5: You're a bitch nigga, And they get up and walk out,

2496
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well, I guess we understand where we're

2497
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 5: all that way, you know what I'm saying.

2498
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:58,560
Speaker 1: So because I talked about a year so but I

2499
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:00,160
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be like, yo, I don't know what

2500
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 1: he said, but that's not what we If that's how

2501
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 1: he felt, then we'll talk about that on a plane

2502
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: on the way home, like maybe that wasn't the best

2503
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 1: way to do this. But at the end of the day,

2504
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Pemple loved this ship. And this is what people don't understand.

2505
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: I'll say this, please give him away a lot about

2506
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 1: like because my wife looks up every now and then

2507
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:24,560
Speaker 1: just kiss me. But I will say, like, this was

2508
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: Pimp's life. There was no plan B for Pimp for

2509
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 1: this ship, respect and if there were certain moments where

2510
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,680
Speaker 1: he felt a certain way, even if I didn't really

2511
02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 1: understand it, all right, all right, well, I guess this

2512
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 1: meeting's over. You're a bitch. You know what I'm saying.

2513
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,839
Speaker 1: We're out of here, U whole ass nigga don't understand

2514
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. Fuck this ship, mom, be

2515
02:06:46,080 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 1: we out of here. Well, guys, I guess you can't

2516
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 1: see how we have each other's numbers. Maybe later, but

2517
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 1: what he said, you know what I'm saying. And on

2518
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 1: the home like, yo, we shouldn't have done it. Like

2519
02:07:00,920 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 1: that the niggame calls at.

2520
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah but in the moment, but right or wrong, we

2521
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 2: gotta ride on that. Shout out to Big G your

2522
02:07:10,160 --> 02:07:13,840
Speaker 2: but I don't know if you ever. You got a

2523
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,680
Speaker 2: new album coming out? Yes, well, I don't know if

2524
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,760
Speaker 2: you ever because this is a different type of hip

2525
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:24,440
Speaker 2: hop show. There's a different type of place where you at,

2526
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 2: and at our place, we big up our artists and

2527
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 2: be nice. You are so fucking appreciated, old I.

2528
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 1: Don't know, no, no, for real, I know where you ever.

2529
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:41,960
Speaker 1: There's a real reason why God gave drink camps to

2530
02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 1: the world.

2531
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 2: Please talk about that. Because you've been a.

2532
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 1: Drink championship ho for a I think the only person

2533
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 1: that's even giving you a battle is forty and legit

2534
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:54,200
Speaker 1: forty destroy me, you know what I'm saying. But that's

2535
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 1: a powerful pound. That's that's powerful powner for dad. You're

2536
02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 1: like the Floyd Metal Mayweather. When I say pound for pound,

2537
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 1: please please keep it a powerful pound, a drink champ.

2538
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. I'm just That's all I'm saying.

2539
02:08:07,960 --> 02:08:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you go against six for six niggas and

2540
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, yes, then you're gonna but but like you, Yo,

2541
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 1: you went to every state, you went to every region,

2542
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 1: every hood, and you drink recklessly. Not just regularlyss you

2543
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,320
Speaker 1: drink recklessly to the point where if it's going down,

2544
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 1: it's going down in a very real way right now.

2545
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 1: But you made it home safe. That's a beautiful thing.

2546
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 1: That's a beautifying.

2547
02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 2: There's no person we rather big up right now and

2548
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 2: drink Champs and revault history then bump be yes.

2549
02:08:41,040 --> 02:08:44,920
Speaker 1: Man right here loves you so much because if if

2550
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:47,160
Speaker 1: it's called me a few times in his life, and

2551
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if I didn't give you what you

2552
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 1: probably you know, but if drama Smalls, these were people

2553
02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 1: that were very genuine in their loves, a poor cons

2554
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that were like, Yo, I

2555
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 1: ain't got no money, I ain't got this, I ain't

2556
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:09,760
Speaker 1: got that. I just I really fuck with you and

2557
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing this and if you want to be a

2558
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,720
Speaker 1: part of it, I love that be a part of it.

2559
02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:16,920
Speaker 1: And I remember my wife being like my wife was like, YO,

2560
02:09:16,960 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 1: why are you doing this stuff? And I'm like, yo,

2561
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:22,720
Speaker 1: please trust me because of you, because of drama, because

2562
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 1: of Smalls. But it wasn't being real because because it's

2563
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,160
Speaker 1: very easy for me to sit here and let you

2564
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:34,600
Speaker 1: give me accolades. I'll give you. But EFN is a

2565
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 1: real dude, and ef It knows that there's never been

2566
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:41,480
Speaker 1: any money. Just been real, there's never been any money.

2567
02:09:42,680 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to see him win and he

2568
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 1: literally and he always wanted to see me. There's been

2569
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 1: times where people would check up a e f It

2570
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 1: more than it's been. Really, they're being real a lot

2571
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: of time, a couple of months. It was a couple

2572
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 1: of months, but no, and he was like, yo, is

2573
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: drink with me?

2574
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 7: You gotta take it over even with the group. I'm that,

2575
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 7: but it's a lot and let us make you up.

2576
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 7: This is not Look my wife is over there, like,

2577
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 7: shut up, there's not this show.

2578
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about him now, let's begging him up.

2579
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 2: That's what you're here for.

2580
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 1: This is the edited. We'll put this on the ened

2581
02:10:26,320 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 1: It know that I'm very uncomfortable to sit around and

2582
02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:34,680
Speaker 1: just kind of like I'm in a new place now

2583
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 1: where I don't want to celebrate me. I want to

2584
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 1: celebrate God and people that have been good. We're celebrating God,

2585
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:41,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And and so like when

2586
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: people start leaning on me, but my wife is like, YO,

2587
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:48,960
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. I'm hungry. It's time to go.

2588
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:50,480
Speaker 2: This room is high.

2589
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 1: But please leaven get twelve minutes number goddamn after two

2590
02:10:58,840 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 1: and a half.

2591
02:11:01,440 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 2: Yo, But b let me tell you something. Us in

2592
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 2: New York City, we recognized, we knew what y'all was doing.

2593
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:16,880
Speaker 2: In the Houston and the Poor Author, we understood what

2594
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:20,040
Speaker 2: y'all was doing. But you know what happened.

2595
02:11:20,200 --> 02:11:21,760
Speaker 1: It's like a drinking game when you say.

2596
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 2: You want more, but let me just tell but listen,

2597
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:32,400
Speaker 2: let me tell you something, bun. But you should be

2598
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:39,680
Speaker 2: saluted every day on Monday through Sunday. And that's what

2599
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to do and drink Champs.

2600
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 1: Drink Champs. First of all, Dream Champs is everything I

2601
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be. Was, Yes, everything I thought

2602
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:54,280
Speaker 1: it was going to be because I thought I was

2603
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna be the dude that came here and talked that

2604
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:56,800
Speaker 1: didn't get drunk.

2605
02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 2: Yo, Empire, listen, because you know why we celebrate hip hop,

2606
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 2: and the thing about it is in the hip hop.

2607
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:08,480
Speaker 2: Hip hop.

2608
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 1: Don't sell up a hip hop? What the fuck is

2609
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 1: our problem?

2610
02:12:12,880 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 2: This is hip hop right. This No, this is not

2611
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 2: hip hop. This hip hop Wow, and Bunim and Pimp

2612
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 2: checked me. I've never been checked before hip hop. But

2613
02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:31,480
Speaker 2: when checked me, I said, damn, I got to check

2614
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:36,120
Speaker 2: myself too. We checked it. And the thing about it

2615
02:12:36,360 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 2: is we want to continue to support people like you buy.

2616
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 1: That's why this works because this wasn't about money and

2617
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 1: sponsorship and none of that ship you've been now show

2618
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:51,640
Speaker 1: even at the like I said, it's funny because like what,

2619
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:54,040
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna patch yourself on the back. That's that's

2620
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 1: what other niggas to do. But dream Champs is Dream

2621
02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:58,840
Speaker 1: Champs is killing it right now. But even in the

2622
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:02,600
Speaker 1: midst of that, you kept the format and the platform

2623
02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: a hip hop Opening's like, yo, what's up? And I

2624
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 1: can show you my phone.

2625
02:13:06,360 --> 02:13:10,560
Speaker 2: It's literally I've been here month. Where fun with me?

2626
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:13,080
Speaker 1: Because we tell because we tell the left Rack story

2627
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:15,640
Speaker 1: to everybody. You know what I'm saying, and we got

2628
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:17,160
Speaker 1: to get it out there and I have to tell

2629
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 1: it no more. That week you just talk about this

2630
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 1: story and how many hours we sat and sweet this

2631
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:27,800
Speaker 1: the new story. But this is this is a beautiful thing.

2632
02:13:28,120 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 1: And shout out to Revolt for supporting you, big of them.

2633
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 2: Big of you, because you know, listen, Charlemagne, you gotta relax.

2634
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,280
Speaker 2: I got a little problem with you waiting there. Charla Maine,

2635
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:42,839
Speaker 2: you gotta stop disrespect of a vault because of revault

2636
02:13:43,320 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 2: is what's holding us down. That is a different episode

2637
02:13:47,320 --> 02:13:51,920
Speaker 2: for a different day. But I can't thank you so

2638
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 2: much because you know what, I want to thank you.

2639
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm not only want to thank you because you deserve

2640
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,200
Speaker 2: to be think, but I want to thank you for

2641
02:14:02,440 --> 02:14:06,920
Speaker 2: staying here and understanding that hip hop has to be respected.

2642
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:11,200
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is so many people they say,

2643
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:15,080
Speaker 2: they sit back and they say ah, and then you

2644
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 2: know what they don't do. They don't set the actual bars,

2645
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,120
Speaker 2: the actual culture.

2646
02:14:22,240 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 1: It's the difference between being a creative something and being

2647
02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:31,160
Speaker 1: the inherited or something. I need you describe that hip

2648
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 1: hop is something that we were part of the creation.

2649
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,840
Speaker 1: The new generation hip hop is something they inherited as

2650
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:38,920
Speaker 1: soon as the different dynamic as the HOWD hip hop.

2651
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 1: We were there to create it. They it was something

2652
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:44,360
Speaker 1: they got on their birthday. You know what I'm saying.

2653
02:14:45,280 --> 02:14:47,800
Speaker 1: You know that's something they got for Christmas hip hop

2654
02:14:47,920 --> 02:14:49,680
Speaker 1: or something they got for Christmas, and it's not a

2655
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:51,800
Speaker 1: bad thing, but they have a different discipline and a

2656
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,440
Speaker 1: different dynamic that we have. And if we and if

2657
02:14:54,440 --> 02:14:57,040
Speaker 1: we look at it like that, right that hip hop

2658
02:14:57,280 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 1: was a right for us, right, a writer, past message,

2659
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:02,800
Speaker 1: but for them it was a gift. And if we

2660
02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:05,800
Speaker 1: look at it like that, then we'll understand the dynamic

2661
02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,320
Speaker 1: between us and the next generation. And you won't fault

2662
02:15:09,440 --> 02:15:14,280
Speaker 1: people for not being of the culture or understanding like

2663
02:15:14,440 --> 02:15:16,080
Speaker 1: being real hip hop and none of that shit.

2664
02:15:16,400 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 3: It was.

2665
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:19,800
Speaker 1: We earned it and we gave it to them, and

2666
02:15:19,960 --> 02:15:22,920
Speaker 1: some of them don't do what we thought they would

2667
02:15:22,960 --> 02:15:25,000
Speaker 1: do with it. But to judge them is to judge

2668
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 1: our children, because we all got kids and they don't

2669
02:15:27,600 --> 02:15:29,760
Speaker 1: all do what the fuck we thought they were supposed

2670
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,720
Speaker 1: to do. So we're the children that they're the children

2671
02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:34,960
Speaker 1: of hip hop. They're not the children of us. But

2672
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:38,040
Speaker 1: we are also children of hip hop. So we have

2673
02:15:38,200 --> 02:15:42,040
Speaker 1: to remember what we did when Cool, when Cool, Hirk

2674
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:44,120
Speaker 1: and all of them gave it to us. We didn't

2675
02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:47,320
Speaker 1: really do what all of them expected us to do

2676
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:49,720
Speaker 1: with it, you know what I'm saying. But it's still

2677
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:52,560
Speaker 1: hip hop still exists. So we can't be mad because

2678
02:15:52,560 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 1: some of them are still keeping hip hop alive. It

2679
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,040
Speaker 1: may not be what we wanted them to do with it,

2680
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:01,840
Speaker 1: but if you're a parent, you're just happy kids alive, right,

2681
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:08,280
Speaker 1: if you wake up in the morning, your kids alive.

2682
02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 1: We got a chance and that's how I feel in

2683
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:14,640
Speaker 1: the morning, the whole we Got a Chance album.

2684
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:19,480
Speaker 2: But he said, it's said, and old niggas stop acting

2685
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 2: like you knew.

2686
02:16:21,280 --> 02:16:24,680
Speaker 1: Becauseupac had a nose ring too, because low Z e

2687
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:28,520
Speaker 1: Vert who I feel like he's speaking specifically because he

2688
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:30,720
Speaker 1: has a nose ring and he closed.

2689
02:16:30,760 --> 02:16:33,279
Speaker 2: And it's very easy for us to judge.

2690
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:35,960
Speaker 1: Young niggas based on what young niggas do right, and

2691
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,200
Speaker 1: it's and it's easy for us to judge old people

2692
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:40,840
Speaker 1: right because we look at the dynamic of how we

2693
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,160
Speaker 1: got it right. So we look at the people before

2694
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 1: us who got hip hop from disco, and we look

2695
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:47,040
Speaker 1: at the people after us who got hip hop from

2696
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:50,600
Speaker 1: pop records and it being a part of the mainstream.

2697
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 1: And we you know, for us, if people don't go

2698
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 1: through the struggle to get to what we got, then

2699
02:16:56,520 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 1: we feel different. But you don't live your life for

2700
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:03,400
Speaker 1: your children to have a struggle. You live your life

2701
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 1: for your children to have it easier. And now we're

2702
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:09,480
Speaker 1: sitting here judging our children because they had it easier

2703
02:17:09,480 --> 02:17:11,560
Speaker 1: and that we have. We shouldn't be doing that. We

2704
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:15,280
Speaker 1: should be raising them. It's not our job to judge

2705
02:17:15,320 --> 02:17:18,720
Speaker 1: your so john to love them and raise them. And

2706
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because when your children do

2707
02:17:21,640 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 1: up said, you don't cut your children off. No, don'tay

2708
02:17:24,840 --> 02:17:26,720
Speaker 1: how fucked up your children get. You don't cut your

2709
02:17:26,800 --> 02:17:29,600
Speaker 1: children off. You bring them back again, and you try again.

2710
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:31,880
Speaker 1: You bring them back to the principals and made you

2711
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 1: who you were, and you just keep praying that one

2712
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 1: day they'll wake up like you woke up, because they're

2713
02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 1: eighteen and we were eighteen.

2714
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:45,440
Speaker 2: Your but.

2715
02:17:48,800 --> 02:17:54,680
Speaker 1: Chant man, he took it down. Drink Champs.

2716
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:56,920
Speaker 2: But I can't thank you enough.

2717
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:59,160
Speaker 1: And it ain't know what the crazy thing is.

2718
02:17:59,879 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 2: I never ever, ever like kind of claim that I met.

2719
02:18:06,560 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's what's crazy. And like I said, hip

2720
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 1: hop artists that really fuck with each other don't do

2721
02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:16,360
Speaker 1: music right like some of this very spell instant. But

2722
02:18:16,760 --> 02:18:19,160
Speaker 1: the people in hip hop that really bond bond over

2723
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 1: real life shit. We meet people in real life scenarios.

2724
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:25,920
Speaker 1: We realize, Yo, if I need to talk to somebody,

2725
02:18:26,120 --> 02:18:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call that dude. The rest of these niggas

2726
02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 1: is just on TV and just a different type of nigga.

2727
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: But when shit get real, Like, if me and my

2728
02:18:33,879 --> 02:18:36,400
Speaker 1: girl ever get into it, I'm gonna call that nigga. Right,

2729
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 1: if me and my partner ever get into it, I'm

2730
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:41,320
Speaker 1: gonna call it that nick. And you're blessed if you

2731
02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:44,040
Speaker 1: can find these people and the culture, you know what

2732
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And because the numbers is way different from

2733
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:50,039
Speaker 1: when we started. It was like thirty niggas, like thirty

2734
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,959
Speaker 1: niggas tops and hip hop, and it's like I meet

2735
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:56,080
Speaker 1: thirty niggas while I'm in New York before I get

2736
02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 1: back to the airport that want to rap. But it's

2737
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:01,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing when when people who are in the

2738
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:04,080
Speaker 1: same struggle find each other. And when we do, we

2739
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:07,959
Speaker 1: don't exploit it, you know, because you're probably mad about

2740
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,080
Speaker 1: your deal. I'm mad about my deal, and we don't

2741
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:11,840
Speaker 1: even want to let niggas know we got love like that.

2742
02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:15,120
Speaker 1: The only time I've ever actually done a song where

2743
02:19:15,200 --> 02:19:19,040
Speaker 1: everybody on the song was like really friends, was we

2744
02:19:19,160 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: did a song for what is it to be a

2745
02:19:22,560 --> 02:19:26,880
Speaker 1: minister in in South central whatever, And it's it's UGK PIMC,

2746
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:31,480
Speaker 1: It's UGK Lord Jamar Keith Murray. And those are like

2747
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 1: some of the closest friends that I've ever had in

2748
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:37,840
Speaker 1: hip hop nor including and that's like the only song

2749
02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:41,400
Speaker 1: niggas ever did. But those are people that like when

2750
02:19:41,440 --> 02:19:44,320
Speaker 1: I see them, I hugged them, like yo, my nigga, Yo,

2751
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 1: you remember when you remember when you beat when you

2752
02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:49,039
Speaker 1: smashed on dude in front of the club and after party,

2753
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember that, Like, yo, you remember you took me

2754
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 1: on Archid Washington and ab and bought weed until it

2755
02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:56,080
Speaker 1: was the biggies hood shit like that, Like it's very

2756
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 1: very genuine moments when they have a very genuine moment

2757
02:19:59,520 --> 02:20:02,280
Speaker 1: with you that you tell your people about. I tell

2758
02:20:02,320 --> 02:20:04,240
Speaker 1: my people about. Now we turn a world about it.

2759
02:20:04,280 --> 02:20:06,960
Speaker 2: And that's the thing before we get about it is

2760
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:11,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how much love you really realized that

2761
02:20:11,879 --> 02:20:12,720
Speaker 2: New York love you?

2762
02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 1: Do you realize that I knew that when I came

2763
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:19,039
Speaker 1: into Amsterdam, Okay, and.

2764
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:21,120
Speaker 10: No, no.

2765
02:20:23,320 --> 02:20:25,879
Speaker 1: Twenty five, I knew that when I came in the left,

2766
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,120
Speaker 1: right right, I didn't have to be anything other than

2767
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:31,680
Speaker 1: who I was. I was just a regular nigga from

2768
02:20:31,720 --> 02:20:34,800
Speaker 1: the hood, and niggas received it and I saw ship happened.

2769
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:37,960
Speaker 1: I didn't no, no, nobody gave me a pistol. I

2770
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 1: didn't overact. I didn't understand. Give you, yo, he's a

2771
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 1: slap dude, Okay, but it was a reason why slap

2772
02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:49,840
Speaker 1: all right, Yo, those dudes even sitting here talking to

2773
02:20:49,959 --> 02:20:52,840
Speaker 1: four hour him and him for to go fight. Okay,

2774
02:20:53,480 --> 02:20:55,880
Speaker 1: now that I know why they need to fight.

2775
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:57,160
Speaker 2: That was that was fire.

2776
02:20:57,320 --> 02:21:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go into it. But everything that happened

2777
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:03,400
Speaker 1: happened none of the same scenarios it would have happened

2778
02:21:03,400 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 1: when I grew and that for me was so eye opening,

2779
02:21:06,959 --> 02:21:10,560
Speaker 1: like yo, and for me it confirmed everything like that.

2780
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:13,320
Speaker 1: Only is the world the ghetto that niggas from the ghetto.

2781
02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:16,680
Speaker 1: When I talk about the ghetto, the hood, and the trap,

2782
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:19,400
Speaker 1: those are three different places. They can all exist on

2783
02:21:19,480 --> 02:21:21,280
Speaker 1: one corner, but the ghetto, of the hood and the

2784
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:23,200
Speaker 1: trap are three different things, and different people come from

2785
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 1: different things.

2786
02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:29,080
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, but it's people. You have the

2787
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:32,960
Speaker 2: worldwide ghetto pass everywhere.

2788
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:36,160
Speaker 1: You could the same way I'm talking to you.

2789
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:39,840
Speaker 2: You can go to Atlanta and do this. You can

2790
02:21:39,959 --> 02:21:41,440
Speaker 2: go to Pittsburgh and.

2791
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:47,200
Speaker 1: Do this, Hamburg, Hamburg, and I'm gonna say this, and

2792
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:49,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna shut it down with this and shut it down.

2793
02:21:49,520 --> 02:21:51,160
Speaker 1: My wife makes sure that I won't just use it

2794
02:21:51,240 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 1: for chicken wings, because you go in the hood is

2795
02:22:00,680 --> 02:22:02,360
Speaker 1: always the good chicken wings. And if you got a

2796
02:22:02,400 --> 02:22:04,360
Speaker 1: hood pass, you can go to the real hood spot.

2797
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:06,920
Speaker 1: But if you got if you got enough of a

2798
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 1: hood pass to go into any hood and get chicken wings, you.

2799
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:13,000
Speaker 2: Should be doing other ship your But that's just that

2800
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:18,760
Speaker 2: you're focusing on me. Waver Rod cameras focusing listen, camera one.

2801
02:22:19,840 --> 02:22:22,520
Speaker 2: I can now thank you so much for coming out

2802
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:25,120
Speaker 2: hanging out with drink Champs and doing what we gotta do.

2803
02:22:25,240 --> 02:22:28,760
Speaker 2: We gotta do, we do just over No, I'm drinking

2804
02:22:29,080 --> 02:22:34,560
Speaker 2: over there, you drinking every type of liquor your bun.

2805
02:22:35,080 --> 02:22:37,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming hanging out with us and that

2806
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:46,480
Speaker 1: and and thank so extended play August twenty night. Big.

2807
02:22:49,360 --> 02:22:51,280
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that before we get up out of here.

2808
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:54,840
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do an album. I end up

2809
02:22:54,840 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 1: doing like forty two songs White People's like look still

2810
02:22:57,680 --> 02:23:03,040
Speaker 1: do an album, White Peo pulled the move said white people, no, no, no,

2811
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:04,320
Speaker 1: white people owe me money.

2812
02:23:04,360 --> 02:23:09,440
Speaker 2: White people always wife money wife.

2813
02:23:09,480 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 1: He said, look, I know you want to do your album.

2814
02:23:12,520 --> 02:23:14,280
Speaker 1: You might not get it out before the years over.

2815
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:17,600
Speaker 1: Put some music out. You still let people know where

2816
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 1: you're coming from. You still can do your album like

2817
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:23,640
Speaker 1: you want to. We still get them checks. I'm like,

2818
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 1: I I was like, we got forty two songs. We

2819
02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:29,120
Speaker 1: ain't putting a twelve on the album anyway. Shout out

2820
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 1: to the solo album. I tell you nothing about that,

2821
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:33,640
Speaker 1: but that's coming two thousand later. But she was like,

2822
02:23:33,879 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 1: put something out, like she said, because everybody's out there

2823
02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,880
Speaker 1: doing things and they're trying to do things. She's like, Yo,

2824
02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:40,920
Speaker 1: you got this music, you've been sitting on it.

2825
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 2: Let the world know.

2826
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Throw it out there because we got a different worldview.

2827
02:23:45,040 --> 02:23:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to.

2828
02:23:45,879 --> 02:23:46,959
Speaker 2: I spent my whole life.

2829
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:50,200
Speaker 1: Trying to save the game and the streets whatever, and

2830
02:23:50,320 --> 02:23:52,720
Speaker 1: I realized by saving myself, that's how I saved my brother.

2831
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:55,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, I've been trying to

2832
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:57,560
Speaker 1: save my brother, but I can't save my brother until

2833
02:23:57,600 --> 02:23:59,959
Speaker 1: I saved myself. And I found myself in a space,

2834
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:04,120
Speaker 1: just being real, just so I can't do nothing for

2835
02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:06,400
Speaker 1: other people. I'm trying to do for myself. Yes, And

2836
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:08,640
Speaker 1: so my wife was like, look, if this is what

2837
02:24:08,760 --> 02:24:10,800
Speaker 1: you want to do, then we're going to stick to it.

2838
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:13,120
Speaker 1: So I go to the studio. I did forty songs

2839
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:16,280
Speaker 1: and forty two and she was like, this is what

2840
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 1: this is exactly what you wanted to do, So keep that.

2841
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:22,080
Speaker 1: Now what do we do with what's what else we got?

2842
02:24:22,680 --> 02:24:24,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, we'll put that out later.

2843
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:26,600
Speaker 1: She's like, no, fuck later. People need to hear what

2844
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about now because we're trying to do the

2845
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:30,080
Speaker 1: right thing.

2846
02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 2: Wife is my sister.

2847
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:35,920
Speaker 1: And just being real closer together, you know, said when

2848
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:38,480
Speaker 1: you're drunk, you don't lie. I'm just being honest. She's like, look,

2849
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:40,440
Speaker 1: she was like, look, we can do this. We can

2850
02:24:40,879 --> 02:24:42,720
Speaker 1: because my whole thing is like I want to bite

2851
02:24:42,760 --> 02:24:45,000
Speaker 1: the bullet. I mean, people call me the og. I

2852
02:24:45,080 --> 02:24:48,040
Speaker 1: never called myself og. Niggas call me og. There's a

2853
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:51,400
Speaker 1: connotation that comes with that. When you accept being called

2854
02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:53,680
Speaker 1: as an og. At some point you got to bite

2855
02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 1: the bullet for the next generation. So my album was

2856
02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,520
Speaker 1: the Biting was a concept of biting a bullet for

2857
02:24:59,560 --> 02:25:01,800
Speaker 1: the next year race. She was like, look, you have that,

2858
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:04,640
Speaker 1: but you still need to let people know. Look, this

2859
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:09,080
Speaker 1: leadership coming. You know what I'm saying before that, like

2860
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,000
Speaker 1: like let people know you're a leader and then be

2861
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 1: a humble leader. So I'm like, all right, so cool,

2862
02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:16,240
Speaker 1: So we'll come out letting it go south still here,

2863
02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:20,080
Speaker 1: just like Hove just came out. And my thing was,

2864
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:23,000
Speaker 1: this is so funny. I thought Hope was coming in December,

2865
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 1: so I was like, I need to get out before

2866
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:34,680
Speaker 1: hop hole drop. Like yo, So now we're good. We're good.

2867
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 1: So it's like and and I love where Hope came from.

2868
02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:41,640
Speaker 1: A person like jay.

2869
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be vulnerable but that that's so that's

2870
02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:48,600
Speaker 2: so that's so vulnerable for you to say that because

2871
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:52,800
Speaker 2: you have one of the most honorable records that jay

2872
02:25:52,879 --> 02:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Z is ever made in his life.

2873
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:57,279
Speaker 1: Jay Z doesn't have to ever have to be anything

2874
02:25:57,400 --> 02:26:01,199
Speaker 1: but jay Z. Right, this is I think the closest

2875
02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:06,680
Speaker 1: we've seen is Sean right on Music talking about it. Well,

2876
02:26:06,879 --> 02:26:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm bum be. My wife doesn't call me be,

2877
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:13,520
Speaker 1: myfe doesn't even call me my mof, doesn't call me

2878
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:18,480
Speaker 1: bunt me your wife. Yeah, I'm not even my wife

2879
02:26:18,520 --> 02:26:21,720
Speaker 1: saving rapper. So the dynamic it's good wife and I

2880
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:25,840
Speaker 1: have to assume that there's a there's a similar maybe.

2881
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:29,040
Speaker 2: Your wife favor I know, my wife shaving rapper is

2882
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:31,880
Speaker 2: you gotta him up?

2883
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, because I'm not gonna my.

2884
02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:39,560
Speaker 2: Masculinity, my masculinity to participate.

2885
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:43,960
Speaker 1: My masculinity is not built on my wife's fantasy. If

2886
02:26:43,959 --> 02:26:47,080
Speaker 1: you all my wife's reality is you know what I'm saying,

2887
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:49,680
Speaker 1: that is. I don't worry about that, but you know

2888
02:26:49,720 --> 02:26:50,160
Speaker 1: what that is.

2889
02:26:50,520 --> 02:26:51,400
Speaker 2: That's a real man.

2890
02:26:51,640 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm just a real man.

2891
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:56,440
Speaker 2: Less. I don't care less. But that's now.

2892
02:26:57,360 --> 02:26:59,039
Speaker 1: That's now. When you first told me that, I felt

2893
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:00,720
Speaker 1: a certain way, you know, and my wife did a

2894
02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:03,640
Speaker 1: very good job made me feel secure about the fact

2895
02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:06,040
Speaker 1: that what I listened to on the radio and what

2896
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a different thing, you know.

2897
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:13,120
Speaker 2: If and he his girl was in Throng so that

2898
02:27:13,200 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 2: WASPS and he was in she was not she was.

2899
02:27:20,080 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 3: She was.

2900
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,119
Speaker 10: To bring this up, she was in a bunch of videos.

2901
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:32,600
Speaker 10: She was girl at the time. No, no, you know what,

2902
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:34,280
Speaker 10: let me can I say something about this.

2903
02:27:35,080 --> 02:27:38,119
Speaker 1: If you're very concerned about the person that you want

2904
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:41,000
Speaker 1: to be with past, you can throw away the future.

2905
02:27:43,120 --> 02:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Can we just say that because I could guarantee you

2906
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:50,320
Speaker 1: If you're a man worried about how many dudes your

2907
02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:54,000
Speaker 1: girl fuck, you probably fucked three four times before y'all

2908
02:27:54,080 --> 02:27:57,760
Speaker 1: came together. Is that especially if you got money? But

2909
02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:00,520
Speaker 1: and that can I can I go there? Can I

2910
02:28:00,640 --> 02:28:04,080
Speaker 1: just go this? My pastor told me that there's no

2911
02:28:04,360 --> 02:28:07,400
Speaker 1: man built in this world that can handle, but a

2912
02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 1: woman can handle. A woman can handle a man dealing

2913
02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:14,480
Speaker 1: with more than one man. But if a man finds

2914
02:28:14,480 --> 02:28:17,440
Speaker 1: out his woman slept with more than one dude, that's

2915
02:28:17,440 --> 02:28:20,640
Speaker 1: how women get killed. Like that's murder, suicide all day.

2916
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,600
Speaker 1: God built women to handle things that man could never handle,

2917
02:28:25,280 --> 02:28:30,280
Speaker 1: that's all, you know what I'm saying. And we're built

2918
02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:34,280
Speaker 1: to handle things physically. Like I'm gonna tell you some

2919
02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:37,840
Speaker 1: real shit. So God build man to handle I'm gonna

2920
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:40,040
Speaker 1: keep it real. God build man to handle shit on

2921
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:43,720
Speaker 1: his shoulder. God built build woman to handle things in

2922
02:28:43,800 --> 02:28:48,440
Speaker 1: their heart right, so we can handle the weight of

2923
02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:52,360
Speaker 1: the physical weight of the world, but not the emotional.

2924
02:28:53,760 --> 02:28:56,360
Speaker 1: And you got a good woman is a good woman

2925
02:28:56,480 --> 02:29:02,080
Speaker 1: that can hold you, that hold you when the emotional

2926
02:29:02,240 --> 02:29:10,760
Speaker 1: weight of the world weighs you my wife in my room,

2927
02:29:10,840 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 1: going a room with your wife, and I'm very long.

2928
02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:21,480
Speaker 2: And well close it.

2929
02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:24,240
Speaker 1: Out with this. Nori and I are very lucky that

2930
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:26,840
Speaker 1: as we go into these later stages with our wife,

2931
02:29:29,360 --> 02:29:33,560
Speaker 1: as we transition from music to the next level, that

2932
02:29:33,720 --> 02:29:38,960
Speaker 1: we have the same support system. Because who it was

2933
02:29:39,080 --> 02:29:42,760
Speaker 1: very easy to be uplifted as an EMC. Outside of that,

2934
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:46,720
Speaker 1: it's very rough. There's a lot of anxiety. There's a

2935
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,879
Speaker 1: lot of depression. There's a lot of stress. And if

2936
02:29:49,879 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 1: you don't have a woman, you gotta go to drugs.

2937
02:29:52,160 --> 02:29:54,320
Speaker 1: You gotta go to alcohol, you gotta go to pills,

2938
02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:56,680
Speaker 1: you gotta go to sex, you gotta go to everything

2939
02:29:56,800 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 1: except that. And in my weakest moll moments where I

2940
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:02,600
Speaker 1: felt like I need to smoke more weed, I need

2941
02:30:02,680 --> 02:30:05,640
Speaker 1: to drink more liquor. God bless my wife, be like, no,

2942
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:08,600
Speaker 1: you need more God, you need more family, You need

2943
02:30:08,720 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 1: more you. You know what I'm saying, You need more

2944
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:15,400
Speaker 1: you and so, and that's what this new music is about.

2945
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:17,560
Speaker 1: And even me being here and being in a position

2946
02:30:17,680 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 1: to do this podcast was about being honest about I

2947
02:30:22,280 --> 02:30:26,360
Speaker 1: have anxiety. As an artist, I get depressed about maybe

2948
02:30:26,400 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm not in twenty seventeen who I was in two

2949
02:30:28,640 --> 02:30:31,480
Speaker 1: thousand and seven or ninety seven or whatever, But that

2950
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:32,879
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm not a good man.

2951
02:30:32,959 --> 02:30:34,279
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean I can't provide.

2952
02:30:34,920 --> 02:30:38,720
Speaker 1: Right, Here's a reality that a lot of artists have

2953
02:30:38,800 --> 02:30:40,600
Speaker 1: to deal with, and I'm glad we get to talk

2954
02:30:40,600 --> 02:30:44,320
Speaker 1: about this. Age artists come into the game. You have

2955
02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:46,440
Speaker 1: a record, you get paid for that record, and you

2956
02:30:46,600 --> 02:30:48,880
Speaker 1: assume that your life is based on that record. So

2957
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:51,039
Speaker 1: what you're getting paid for that record, you assume that's

2958
02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:53,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get paid for the rest of your life.

2959
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:56,880
Speaker 1: And even if you find a range of wey, okay,

2960
02:30:57,320 --> 02:31:00,400
Speaker 1: this is what the show is like from here on now.

2961
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Maybe five thousand more, five thousand less, but this is

2962
02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:06,000
Speaker 1: what the show is. So you say, okay, I can

2963
02:31:06,080 --> 02:31:09,199
Speaker 1: live my life around that, right. I got a wife,

2964
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 1: I got two kids. I can live my life based

2965
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 1: on what I'm getting paid. And you have a third kid.

2966
02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Then you have a fourth kid, then your kids graduate,

2967
02:31:19,680 --> 02:31:21,720
Speaker 1: then you got a kid going to college, you got

2968
02:31:21,760 --> 02:31:24,720
Speaker 1: a second kid. God forbid, you know, you end up

2969
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 1: in a situation I say, God forbid. But it's a

2970
02:31:26,920 --> 02:31:29,680
Speaker 1: beautiful thing because every child is a blessing. Then one

2971
02:31:29,680 --> 02:31:32,360
Speaker 1: of your kids have a kid. So you're still getting

2972
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:35,760
Speaker 1: paid in twenty seventeen, which you got paid two thousand

2973
02:31:35,800 --> 02:31:39,160
Speaker 1: and seven for a show when you only had two responsibilities.

2974
02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:43,240
Speaker 1: But now you got five responsibilities. You're still getting that

2975
02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:45,920
Speaker 1: show money, maybe even a little less. So you're still

2976
02:31:46,000 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 1: getting what you normally got, but your responsibilities increase. Your

2977
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:53,400
Speaker 1: money don't increase, but your responsibilities increase. And then but

2978
02:31:53,800 --> 02:31:55,400
Speaker 1: at the same time, you look at your wife. You

2979
02:31:55,480 --> 02:31:57,800
Speaker 1: love your wife. You want your wife to be comfortable.

2980
02:31:58,000 --> 02:31:59,800
Speaker 1: You look at your kids, want your kids to be

2981
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:03,720
Speaker 1: God forbid. You have got grandkids because they're all bets off.

2982
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:10,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna do whatever. We got to do it for them, right,

2983
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:13,440
Speaker 1: But you don't want them to work. So you take

2984
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:15,800
Speaker 1: the worry that you would normally your wife would have

2985
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:19,000
Speaker 1: about finance. You take that. You have to worry that

2986
02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:21,960
Speaker 1: your kids would have you have grandkids, You take that.

2987
02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:25,080
Speaker 1: You're dealing with all of that, and then you go

2988
02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:27,640
Speaker 1: around other dudes. I come around, nor norry. How you doing.

2989
02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm good, deed, what's up with you?

2990
02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm good? That's a lie. I'm not good.

2991
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:36,680
Speaker 2: Stress, stressed like a motherck. Just be honest.

2992
02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:39,920
Speaker 1: It's just fucked up, just fucked up. But I don't

2993
02:32:40,160 --> 02:32:42,200
Speaker 1: not that I'm not going up. I don't want to

2994
02:32:42,320 --> 02:32:45,800
Speaker 1: tell you that because from my perspective, I think you

2995
02:32:46,000 --> 02:32:50,400
Speaker 1: eating right, and I don't want it to seem like

2996
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:55,200
Speaker 1: you're eating and I'm not. So you say you're good

2997
02:32:56,360 --> 02:32:59,240
Speaker 1: and I'm good, but the reality is I'm not good.

2998
02:33:00,040 --> 02:33:03,400
Speaker 1: And if I talk to him, regardless of what he's eating,

2999
02:33:03,680 --> 02:33:07,560
Speaker 1: he's not good. Right. It's not about the money all

3000
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:09,440
Speaker 1: the time. You can make the money that you need

3001
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:11,880
Speaker 1: to pay the bills, but it doesn't help the stress

3002
02:33:12,000 --> 02:33:14,520
Speaker 1: that you deal with, and in pursuit of those bills,

3003
02:33:15,400 --> 02:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't alleviate. You can make the bills for July, right,

3004
02:33:21,400 --> 02:33:24,320
Speaker 1: and then you go to everybody's happy, wife's, happy kids,

3005
02:33:24,400 --> 02:33:27,480
Speaker 1: happy everybody goes to speak at ten o'clock, You up

3006
02:33:27,520 --> 02:33:34,360
Speaker 1: at two in the morning. August September. You know what

3007
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Birthdays, Christmas, And that's what's wrong with us.

3008
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:45,640
Speaker 1: We've put up these images of who we want ourselves

3009
02:33:45,680 --> 02:33:48,880
Speaker 1: to be, and we tell the people that we love

3010
02:33:48,959 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 1: that this is who we're going to be, and they

3011
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:54,240
Speaker 1: can rely on that person, and you can always count

3012
02:33:54,280 --> 02:33:59,360
Speaker 1: on that person. When this person comes, right, you can

3013
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:02,880
Speaker 1: count on this person. It's five people, two other people come,

3014
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:07,200
Speaker 1: mother in law, father in law, cousin, sis in law,

3015
02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:10,560
Speaker 1: ten people, twelve people, fifteen people. You can count on

3016
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:15,360
Speaker 1: this person. And nobody understands that I'm not getting no

3017
02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:20,920
Speaker 1: extra shows, I'm getting no extra money, but I'm still

3018
02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:24,199
Speaker 1: taking on this shit. And you don't end up telling

3019
02:34:24,240 --> 02:34:27,040
Speaker 1: anybody until Yo, I thought I was supposed to get this.

3020
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:29,920
Speaker 1: It's coming, don't worry about it. Don't worry about that.

3021
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, we got that. Don't worry aboudy, I got that.

3022
02:34:32,800 --> 02:34:34,760
Speaker 1: And then this comes, don't worry about that. I got that.

3023
02:34:34,920 --> 02:34:35,320
Speaker 2: I got that.

3024
02:34:36,080 --> 02:34:39,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, then I talk about on new music in

3025
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:43,200
Speaker 1: this world and it's very easy to say in the

3026
02:34:43,360 --> 02:34:46,680
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, but this is the real world. We all

3027
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:50,760
Speaker 1: end up at some point Robert Peter the paper, and

3028
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:53,080
Speaker 1: the only time it becomes a problem is what Peter

3029
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:59,600
Speaker 1: gets mad. You know what I'm saying, now here problem,

3030
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it one hundred

3031
02:35:02,000 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 1: and hip hop. You can find a Peter with a

3032
02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:05,920
Speaker 1: bunch of money that just want to be along for

3033
02:35:06,000 --> 02:35:12,320
Speaker 1: the rock, right so just keep it real. And Peter's

3034
02:35:12,320 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 1: got X amount of money, So it's like, yo, if

3035
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:17,640
Speaker 1: I if Peter fuck with me, you go here from

3036
02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:21,920
Speaker 1: February and November were good, money were good, Peter fuck

3037
02:35:21,959 --> 02:35:23,720
Speaker 1: with us, and then Peter should get bad. Oh shit

3038
02:35:23,760 --> 02:35:28,280
Speaker 1: get bad the same mm hm and your family don't

3039
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:30,600
Speaker 1: know that Peter is a part of it. It's crazy

3040
02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,640
Speaker 1: and you gotta try to figure out how to make

3041
02:35:33,720 --> 02:35:36,640
Speaker 1: all this ship makes sense. This is not my issue,

3042
02:35:37,440 --> 02:35:39,560
Speaker 1: and any rapper that's watching.

3043
02:35:39,280 --> 02:35:40,800
Speaker 2: This, please.

3044
02:35:43,640 --> 02:35:49,720
Speaker 1: Peter and Paul real talk my bottle, my glasses. If

3045
02:35:49,800 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 1: it's not about looking, this is about real life. We

3046
02:35:53,959 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 1: gotta stop going to Peter to pay Paul. The record

3047
02:36:00,480 --> 02:36:06,200
Speaker 1: industry is built around you because they're Peter. That's who.

3048
02:36:06,440 --> 02:36:10,240
Speaker 1: That's who. Peter is the recognition, that's the industry, that's

3049
02:36:10,280 --> 02:36:15,160
Speaker 1: the advance. Peter is the advance. Paul is the family.

3050
02:36:16,240 --> 02:36:18,520
Speaker 1: So you gotta go and get another advance and do

3051
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:19,320
Speaker 1: another album.

3052
02:36:20,120 --> 02:36:20,360
Speaker 4: I e.

3053
02:36:20,600 --> 02:36:26,000
Speaker 1: Rob Peter to pay Paul. But the reality is Peter

3054
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:28,160
Speaker 1: is mad because you're not robbing Peter. Peter is just

3055
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:32,240
Speaker 1: fronting you. And that's where shit gets bad. And then

3056
02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:45,840
Speaker 1: families fall apart because they thought you were Peter, and

3057
02:36:46,000 --> 02:36:51,400
Speaker 1: that's where families fall apart, going they thought. And I

3058
02:36:52,440 --> 02:36:53,960
Speaker 1: used to say, if you're luck, I almost said it,

3059
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 1: you like, if you're blessed. You realize that God is Peter,

3060
02:37:00,480 --> 02:37:04,160
Speaker 1: and you've been leaning on him for too long, for

3061
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:09,400
Speaker 1: too long, and Paul is Man, and you've been robbing God,

3062
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:12,800
Speaker 1: taking every all the blessings and opportunities from God to

3063
02:37:12,959 --> 02:37:18,400
Speaker 1: make man happy. And then God gets mad at you

3064
02:37:19,480 --> 02:37:23,880
Speaker 1: because you've never given him anything. Because you know what

3065
02:37:24,000 --> 02:37:25,840
Speaker 1: the reality is. You don't get mad at Paul. You

3066
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:28,879
Speaker 1: get mad at Peter. The reality is Peter's nigga has

3067
02:37:28,920 --> 02:37:31,680
Speaker 1: been holding you down. Paul is the nigga you've been

3068
02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:36,480
Speaker 1: front of him. Paul is the fan base, Paul is

3069
02:37:36,600 --> 02:37:39,280
Speaker 1: social media. That's who Paul is.

3070
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:41,360
Speaker 2: And he's shining too.

3071
02:37:41,640 --> 02:37:45,120
Speaker 1: And Paul don't care Yo. The illushit I heard and

3072
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:47,840
Speaker 1: this is literally from four weeks ago with the Bible study,

3073
02:37:47,879 --> 02:37:51,080
Speaker 1: and it was like most of us are going broke

3074
02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:53,840
Speaker 1: to prove to people. We don't even like that we

3075
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:58,520
Speaker 1: got money. That's not even my word. Word that John Gray,

3076
02:37:58,760 --> 02:38:02,800
Speaker 1: that's not even my word. And I didn't even realize

3077
02:38:02,800 --> 02:38:05,600
Speaker 1: and I'm not living like that, now right listen. But

3078
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I did that at some point. So

3079
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 1: when you realize this shit, are you going to keep

3080
02:38:13,680 --> 02:38:17,160
Speaker 1: lying to yourself and lying to the people, because that's

3081
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:19,560
Speaker 1: how we keep the shows up. I'm just I'm give

3082
02:38:19,640 --> 02:38:22,520
Speaker 1: out there right now. That's how we keep the shows

3083
02:38:22,640 --> 02:38:25,520
Speaker 1: up and the money and all of that is because

3084
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:28,600
Speaker 1: people want to lie about where they are, and we

3085
02:38:28,920 --> 02:38:32,720
Speaker 1: co sign that lite. People want to be like, yo,

3086
02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:35,320
Speaker 1: it's all right, We're good, and we'd be like, yeah,

3087
02:38:35,360 --> 02:38:39,080
Speaker 1: it's all good. But the sooner we admit the truth

3088
02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:43,120
Speaker 1: about where we're at, the sooner they can. Because I

3089
02:38:43,280 --> 02:38:46,680
Speaker 1: went to hip hop watching Chuck D and Exclaim trying

3090
02:38:46,720 --> 02:38:48,840
Speaker 1: to be real about where I was as a black man,

3091
02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:52,360
Speaker 1: and they wasn't getting paid for it like I get

3092
02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:56,320
Speaker 1: paid for it. And it's very easy for these the industry.

3093
02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Robter doesn't go against what you guys are

3094
02:38:59,160 --> 02:39:03,199
Speaker 1: trying to promote, but it's very easy to go against

3095
02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:08,720
Speaker 1: that to maintain a lifestyle that you prayed for, right

3096
02:39:09,760 --> 02:39:12,119
Speaker 1: Because when you think about your family and your children,

3097
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:16,600
Speaker 1: you don't think about God. I'm just being real. You

3098
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:19,960
Speaker 1: think about what you didn't have. We had God, we

3099
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:22,560
Speaker 1: were coming up, but we didn't have money, we didn't

3100
02:39:22,600 --> 02:39:27,040
Speaker 1: have opportunity, we didn't have privilege. So when that's what

3101
02:39:27,160 --> 02:39:31,000
Speaker 1: we want for our kids. And then when you get

3102
02:39:31,080 --> 02:39:33,000
Speaker 1: old and at the point where I got grandkids and

3103
02:39:33,040 --> 02:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I could look at my kids as growing people, and

3104
02:39:35,400 --> 02:39:37,680
Speaker 1: that's what they I can see that that's what they

3105
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:42,320
Speaker 1: wanted and needed. Was everything that made us who we were,

3106
02:39:43,200 --> 02:39:46,000
Speaker 1: but we didn't make them what they were. Based on that,

3107
02:39:47,040 --> 02:39:50,800
Speaker 1: we thought about everything we didn't get or like I

3108
02:39:50,840 --> 02:39:56,160
Speaker 1: didn't get a Taris and Calicos. So when xboxing and PlayStation,

3109
02:39:56,280 --> 02:39:58,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to give them that. It was have to

3110
02:39:58,760 --> 02:40:01,720
Speaker 1: babysit and do other shit for Jordan's, So I wanted

3111
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:07,080
Speaker 1: my kids to have Jordan's. But I was also raised

3112
02:40:07,720 --> 02:40:11,320
Speaker 1: to appreciate and respect and acknowledge God, and I didn't

3113
02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:15,040
Speaker 1: do that every moment. I'm not saying I didn't acknowledge

3114
02:40:15,080 --> 02:40:17,480
Speaker 1: God in my life, but there was some shit that

3115
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I didn't do when I should have done. And you know,

3116
02:40:19,959 --> 02:40:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if this again, Rob, I don't know

3117
02:40:22,480 --> 02:40:29,240
Speaker 1: if this is against but just to say, you know,

3118
02:40:31,360 --> 02:40:33,400
Speaker 1: I saw God in you. You saw God and me,

3119
02:40:33,680 --> 02:40:37,800
Speaker 1: we didn't know it was God, right and we're there

3120
02:40:37,920 --> 02:40:41,800
Speaker 1: now and taking God out of everything. I didn't know

3121
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:45,080
Speaker 1: who I was when I started. I had more faith

3122
02:40:45,160 --> 02:40:48,560
Speaker 1: in who you guys were, looking at opponent Noriega, looking

3123
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:52,280
Speaker 1: at my deep, looking at EPMD, wanting to be emulative

3124
02:40:52,360 --> 02:40:55,920
Speaker 1: of that, and then realizing that I was already that

3125
02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:59,600
Speaker 1: when I met him, like this, Nigga's me. I only

3126
02:40:59,600 --> 02:41:01,160
Speaker 1: need to like this.

3127
02:41:01,320 --> 02:41:01,880
Speaker 2: Thig is me.

3128
02:41:02,400 --> 02:41:08,960
Speaker 1: He killed that, people killed me, killed that. He killed that.

3129
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta drink more now, and Yo, God,

3130
02:41:15,440 --> 02:41:26,000
Speaker 1: bless God. I don't know what makes the room that

3131
02:41:26,080 --> 02:41:27,760
Speaker 1: makes the podcast, but I know it made the room.

3132
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Your bud. I can't think of it enough, going to

3133
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:33,560
Speaker 1: picture

3134
02:41:35,160 --> 02:41:36,520
Speaker 2: But has a drop