Speaker 1: If you're heavyweight champion. He died client. He was always
Speaker 1: involved in a criminal culture, whether by choice and necessity.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of people who having invested interest
Speaker 1: in shutting Sunny up. So many people wanted Sunny dead.
Speaker 1: Questions who got to him? First? Welcome Back, Episode four,
Speaker 1: Coming to you from New York City and why with
Speaker 1: a special guest man. It's an honored man. We came
Speaker 1: from the same Northern California territory um first Bout Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Yankee legend C. C. S. Bathaman, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Retire Bay. Yeah, I'm ready, We're about to
Speaker 1: start the show. Okay, huh, I don't know. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. On your hand's good? Two shows in a row.
Speaker 1: Did you find his hand like he had a nice
Speaker 1: lather with baby notes, like like he didn't get it,
Speaker 1: he didn't get on. I got my hand and leave
Speaker 1: a wet mark up my gradtball games. I used to
Speaker 1: be so nervous that I would have to like put
Speaker 1: lotion on and everything. Then I had to go wash
Speaker 1: my hands so it wouldn't be like sweating. Never never right,
Speaker 1: always ready, ain't got to get ready, So take me
Speaker 1: back man obviously Hall of Fame career, but you're emotional
Speaker 1: exit in the playoffs. Talk to me about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy because I had been feeling good,
Speaker 1: like they put me in the bullpen for the for
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um. I didn't make the roster the first
Speaker 1: round because I had my shoulder, was myselup. Um. So
Speaker 1: I got a quarterso on shop and feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I came out of the bullpen in Houston and
Speaker 1: got the out I was. I was feeling myself walking
Speaker 1: off talking ship. I was feeling good, and I started
Speaker 1: thinking like, man, I might be able to come back,
Speaker 1: like like unretired, you know what I'm saying, Like come
Speaker 1: out of the bullpen, get a couple of outs. I
Speaker 1: might be able to do this. And got out there
Speaker 1: in that game and uh and Yankee Stadium. I think
Speaker 1: it was game four, um, And I was feeling good
Speaker 1: up until that one pitch. You know, let that pitch go,
Speaker 1: and it just I could tell my arm it kind
Speaker 1: of popped out of socket, not kind of popped out
Speaker 1: of socket and ripped the capsule, tore my labor room
Speaker 1: cuff everything, and walking off, I heard like the ovation
Speaker 1: of the fans knew it was gonna be my last
Speaker 1: time in front of the fans, and kind of got
Speaker 1: a little motion, come on, man, let's expected. I'm just detached.
Speaker 1: You was real calm and sub blocks. It was too calm,
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that it wasn't it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And the catcher ran out, you know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to console me. The trainer kind of popped
Speaker 1: it back in and I went back. I told the
Speaker 1: catch of the run back down there and let me
Speaker 1: try to throw one. And when that one and just
Speaker 1: it did it again. I can't even describe the feeling it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was when some of the worst pain.
Speaker 1: Like everybody, I was walking off the field limping and
Speaker 1: everybody was like, we thought it was your knee. I
Speaker 1: was like, now my shoulder was hurting that bad. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean that was the best way for
Speaker 1: me to go out on the field. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: We spoke before we got on camera. Uh you were
Speaker 1: disappointed you only have one ring? Yeah? Tell me you
Speaker 1: felt you should have won how many? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: nineteen years. You know what I'm saying, One one ring?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not to discredit winning the Championships hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: but playing here for this long, I mean the gold
Speaker 1: you know in New York has a win champiship every year.
Speaker 1: It's like the Lakers Championships. Winning one out of eleven.
Speaker 1: That's a failure, you know. Um, but I'll take that
Speaker 1: one absolutely sure. What are you looking forward to next?
Speaker 1: I mean you're done. I mean we you know, we
Speaker 1: everything comes to an end. I found myself really enjoying
Speaker 1: just being able to get back and sleep in and
Speaker 1: not be so But then that gets all quick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what is just kind of being around the family
Speaker 1: like I did three days and like sleeping in and
Speaker 1: not doing it Like I was like, Yo, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a bump, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 1: I called my agent, I was like, Yo, get me
Speaker 1: back on ESPN, Like let's start getting back into like
Speaker 1: normal life, you know what. And so I'm just looking
Speaker 1: forward to being a normal citizen, like having the summer
Speaker 1: I've had had a summer ross in ninety seven, So
Speaker 1: just traveling with the family, kind of hanging out, kicking
Speaker 1: it and just enjoying my family. Let's go back a
Speaker 1: little bit. Like I said, you were someone, Um, you
Speaker 1: know I heard about early on. You know, you were Valo.
Speaker 1: I was in Sacramentos the same year, about an hour
Speaker 1: and a half from each other. Um, so I would
Speaker 1: definitely hear about you a lot and all three sports
Speaker 1: you played and I did the same. Take me back
Speaker 1: to kind of growing up in your path and sports. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I grew up in Valeo, California. UM, and it's
Speaker 1: like a it's a it's a big sports town, Um,
Speaker 1: the Valley Joe. It's little. It's a small last city. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Um most popular known for you know, e
Speaker 1: forty Matt dre. I grew up on the side of
Speaker 1: the town with mcdre's from, actually in the same neighborhood. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, I had a cousin that played
Speaker 1: in the NFL. UM played for the Raiders point the
Speaker 1: University of Nevada. So it's just kind of one of
Speaker 1: those small towns that kind of like breeze athletes. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes that come out of there, um
Speaker 1: that you don't really hear about. You know, different ship happens, whatever,
Speaker 1: but you know, super talented guys. So, UM just growing
Speaker 1: up in that environment, wanting to be one of these
Speaker 1: guys that I saw. You know, I can name these guys,
Speaker 1: Major Norton, Jason Shelley, you know, Marcella Longmire. Just guys
Speaker 1: that you know that around my neighborhood, that that you know,
Speaker 1: played in college, that you know necessarily didn't make it
Speaker 1: but could have. UM. So I just wanted to be
Speaker 1: around those guys that played in park, stayed with those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, playing three sports, um and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of kind of filmed my way into baseball.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're talking about the boys with the
Speaker 1: high high basketball. I Q always had a high baseball.
Speaker 1: I Q just knew what basics to throw too, knew
Speaker 1: how to run the basis, new know, kind of different
Speaker 1: ship about the game, and it just became easy and natural.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of fell into it. Outside of baseball,
Speaker 1: I mean, people probably don't. You played, like you said,
Speaker 1: every every sport. What was your sport? Football? Football? Basketball?
Speaker 1: Football is probably my sport. Basketball was fun, I mean,
Speaker 1: but I had to work at that ship so hard man.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I couldn't jump like you know, like
Speaker 1: I was, I couldn't jump play play below the rim.
Speaker 1: It was all so. Uh, I had the most fun
Speaker 1: playing basketball because I had to work at it and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of work to be good and starting
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But baseball was naturally fun and and
Speaker 1: just football was you know, it was easy for me.
Speaker 1: So eighteen or nineteen when how were you even got dropping?
Speaker 1: And I remember that because I remember you going to
Speaker 1: U c. L A. And I was I had thought
Speaker 1: about going there to play football. Um, and I remember
Speaker 1: you going at the same time foot tight end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would have been an offensive lineman though, like and
Speaker 1: that have been three playing offensive tackle. So tell me
Speaker 1: what it's like seventeen years old with a million dollars
Speaker 1: in your pocket from Valleo. That don't happen out there. No,
Speaker 1: that ship was it was bad. It wasn't that's it
Speaker 1: wasn't good the first couple of years. Man, I didn't
Speaker 1: have no work ethic. I didn't know what it was
Speaker 1: to be a pro. I mean, obviously I knew how
Speaker 1: to show up and do my job when I was there,
Speaker 1: But you put me back in Valleo with a million
Speaker 1: dollars at seventeen, eighteen years old, I'm not working out
Speaker 1: like the first off season I didn't do ship, Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't pick up a ball until I got back
Speaker 1: to screen training, ended up getting hurt elbow hurt, you know,
Speaker 1: spent the year on the d L. So that kind
Speaker 1: of like the lay I would have been probably been
Speaker 1: in the biglies when I was nineteen as opposed to
Speaker 1: twenty if I would have worked out and like actually
Speaker 1: cared about my career. So um yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: was just a learning experience, man, you know, growing up
Speaker 1: without nothing, and then all of a sudden, you just
Speaker 1: give me a million dollars in free times. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up two pounds all that good. Literally
Speaker 1: hanging out, When did when did you Because people do
Speaker 1: understand they think, like you said, they think you're drafted
Speaker 1: and everything is part When do you feel like you
Speaker 1: kind of got to grasp what was going on and
Speaker 1: you started realizing how important the process of being a
Speaker 1: pro in the off season was important. Man, Not until
Speaker 1: not until after my rookie year, not until after I
Speaker 1: made it to the big Leiggs, and I liked was
Speaker 1: around Robbie Alamar Ellis Bergs and all these guys and
Speaker 1: kind of seeing how they worked in the off season,
Speaker 1: like you know, coming from high school. You know, we
Speaker 1: just show up. You know what I'm saying, like, you
Speaker 1: just do what you do, and that that is you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But I didn't know all
Speaker 1: the work that it took to get into you know,
Speaker 1: to make All Star teams, to be a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: to do some of the things that I wanted to
Speaker 1: do in the game. You know, I figured out I
Speaker 1: don't have to work for it. And you know, after
Speaker 1: that first offseason, Um, I had a really good year.
Speaker 1: In my first year, I won seventeen games, want a
Speaker 1: playoff game. And then I came back the next year
Speaker 1: and they gave me a deal. Like when they gave
Speaker 1: me that deal and made me realize like okay, like
Speaker 1: this is like I need to step my ship up
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of live up to what they
Speaker 1: expect me to be. We gotta get you going, We
Speaker 1: gotta get your clock firing. You had an amazing spand uh,
Speaker 1: you know obviously started in Cleveland, but there was a
Speaker 1: time where you went from cy young and oh seven
Speaker 1: to traded to make a run with Milwaukee, to signing
Speaker 1: a great deal with the Yankees and winning the ring.
Speaker 1: Tell me with that span that was. That was a fast,
Speaker 1: fast spect that was that Like you just said that
Speaker 1: ship seems like all one year, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to say young and oh seven and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, oh, I got it now, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I have to ship figured out,
Speaker 1: Like now I'm about to start rolling. Came back in
Speaker 1: oh And I was the worst pitcher in the league
Speaker 1: and couldn't couldn't get it out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: By June, had a good games against the Yankees, had
Speaker 1: a couple of good starts after that, and they trained me.
Speaker 1: When I got traded, I went from last place to
Speaker 1: first place or you know, in the hunt. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta step up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's when I went on that good round in Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: ended up getting a deal, and then on kind of
Speaker 1: taking care of business and winning the World Series. But
Speaker 1: like that whole three year span kind of feels like
Speaker 1: one year for me, Like it's it's weird, like just
Speaker 1: like maturing and kind of like coming into my own
Speaker 1: winning the cy young and seven and oh seven and
Speaker 1: then you know, winning the World Series and I went
Speaker 1: on a winning team helped too. Don't doubt the environment.
Speaker 1: Um oh seven. You know we had a chance that
Speaker 1: when we were winning team in Cleveland, and I felt
Speaker 1: like I was the reason why we didn't win the
Speaker 1: World Series. Like I was trying to go out and
Speaker 1: do too much and go out and had these great
Speaker 1: games and be the storyline and the reason why we won,
Speaker 1: and I was ended up being the reason why we lost,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that was kind of
Speaker 1: a learning lesson, you know, like that was the best
Speaker 1: year I had in my career and ended up sucking
Speaker 1: it up in the playoffs because I wanted to be
Speaker 1: the guy come back in OH nine. I come here
Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to be the guy that gave me
Speaker 1: the contract. But I'm looking around. I got Jeter, I
Speaker 1: got a run, I got Canoe, I got taxed. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all I gotta do is my little part and we're
Speaker 1: gonna win, you know what I'm saying. So it was
Speaker 1: easy for me to like make it. It was easy
Speaker 1: for me. Is simplified once I got on the better
Speaker 1: teams play a role. Yeah, I mean You've spoke on
Speaker 1: it several times and just this brief stint. How mental
Speaker 1: being a picture is a lonely position, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So how exactly how how much are you
Speaker 1: in your head and telling your ship itself this and
Speaker 1: that and how do you kind of balance yourself? It's
Speaker 1: all mental, it's all. It's all talking to yourself, right,
Speaker 1: all right, everything is talking to yourself while you out there.
Speaker 1: It's only you out there, standing out there people. You're
Speaker 1: out there by yourself. So everything about it is mental.
Speaker 1: But it's just onto the next no matter what happened,
Speaker 1: no matter what the result, home run, I'm part and
Speaker 1: called to strike. Whatever it is, just the next patch.
Speaker 1: So it's just about making sure I'm staying in my mechanics,
Speaker 1: making sure that I execute the next patch. That's really
Speaker 1: that's all it's about. I don't think I don't see
Speaker 1: how y'all do it, because I don't think I'll be
Speaker 1: thinking about is that ball coming back? And now you know,
Speaker 1: the only time I think about getting hit with a
Speaker 1: line drive is when I'm not pitching, Like if I'm
Speaker 1: you know, sitting in my thoughts or you know, laying
Speaker 1: and down or whatever, I'm like, man, like, what if
Speaker 1: I can hear with the line drive. Never think about
Speaker 1: that ship where you're out there, but like it gives you,
Speaker 1: you know, chills, and you think about it when you
Speaker 1: when you're off the field, where I can imagine you're
Speaker 1: getting hit with a line dry. Do you ever play
Speaker 1: baseball though? Yeah, but that's why I didn't play, because
Speaker 1: I was scared of the ball. They're making the ball
Speaker 1: come at your full speed and drop all that ship
Speaker 1: I'll be doing. Put me on the court where I
Speaker 1: could drill and take my time with it. Did you
Speaker 1: play football too? I was receiving the safe. That was nice.
Speaker 1: I was nice for super nice. But when I got
Speaker 1: to high school, my mom a coach pulled me off
Speaker 1: the football field. You might not know what you're going
Speaker 1: to league? Yeah, and it was serious. You had to
Speaker 1: make a decision. They I was nice, but they knew
Speaker 1: they I didn't know I was going to the Bay.
Speaker 1: Then they saw it. I didn't, you know. I was
Speaker 1: still doing all kinds of ship football. If I playing
Speaker 1: putball on the park, throw up to the talk. I'm
Speaker 1: doing all that while I'm playing basketball. That was kind
Speaker 1: of like Lebron. I feel like Lebron didn't know he
Speaker 1: was going to the league, Like what are you playing
Speaker 1: football in the tenth and eleven grade? He was good too,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, what did y'all doing? Like this is
Speaker 1: mother about to be the first pick and y'all got him.
Speaker 1: And we test on this a few episodes ago and
Speaker 1: about how kids and we all grew up playing everything
Speaker 1: possible and being a kid and not lifting weights and
Speaker 1: eating right and having trainers at a young age. Like
Speaker 1: we touched on this, and you know, you have a
Speaker 1: son in high school and you told the offline that
Speaker 1: he was, you know, playing baseball and basketball and getting
Speaker 1: behind in this baseball, you know, getting behind him both
Speaker 1: because he kind of felt like other kids are playing
Speaker 1: either one of those year round. Yeah, it's like pressure
Speaker 1: to pick one sport because the kids in your class
Speaker 1: are playing one sport and they're getting nice. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when you catch up to
Speaker 1: that sport, you're like, funk, man, I'm behind it. But
Speaker 1: because you don't realize you've been playing another sport and
Speaker 1: it's gonna help you. So it's been that struggle back
Speaker 1: and forth with him right now, trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I think, I honestly think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be his last year playing, which I would
Speaker 1: I would love to see him continue playing six five,
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. You never know, you know what, you
Speaker 1: can shoot a little bit. He's slow as fun, but
Speaker 1: he can look. You know, he can move, he can
Speaker 1: dribble um. So but you never know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what he can turn into. So slow kills,
Speaker 1: slow kills. You're telling slow kills. So who are some
Speaker 1: of the people you leaned on your vets who leaned
Speaker 1: on you you feel like, whether it be a picture
Speaker 1: or another position that really kind of got your mental
Speaker 1: and kind of yeah, it's some Ellis Burke's was born. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um still to this day, like I can call Ellis
Speaker 1: right now and you know, um and Jeter. Jeter was
Speaker 1: a big one. I like, anytime I got something going on,
Speaker 1: if you know, I feel something going on in the media,
Speaker 1: I need to say something to the team or something.
Speaker 1: I text get first like, Yo, this is what I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And he'll give me like a not
Speaker 1: an outline, but he'll be like, Yo, maybe you should
Speaker 1: say this. Maybe you shouldn't say this to the media.
Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't go off on the umpire tonight. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like different little ship, Like he'll
Speaker 1: give me, he'll kind of try to help him guide me.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it don't work sometimes to do right. I mean,
Speaker 1: what was it like playing with historical franchises, the Yankees,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and then playing with who
Speaker 1: you play with, you know, Hall of Famer is something
Speaker 1: of the greatest players that ever doing and doing it
Speaker 1: as a Yankee. Man, it was crazy. Uh. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize what it what it meant to be a Yankee
Speaker 1: until I got here, being around Yogi Bear, being around
Speaker 1: Ryan Gidrey, being around Whitey Ford, Andy Pettit like, you
Speaker 1: want to be on those lists. You want to, you know,
Speaker 1: try to be a part of that history if you can.
Speaker 1: Um So, winning the championship here helpefully, I mean hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, puts me in some of those categories. But
Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean it's amazing to be able to
Speaker 1: to say I played for the Yankeest for eleven years,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest sports franchises in the world,
Speaker 1: and win the championship here and play with you know,
Speaker 1: each row a ride, um g Andy, I mean, so
Speaker 1: many Hall of Famers, Yeah, it's been crazy. I look
Speaker 1: at some of the lineup cards like that I played
Speaker 1: with him, like it's been a blessing that it's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean we can kind of compare it
Speaker 1: to you know, in basketball being a Laker, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, No matter what, it's just it's it's
Speaker 1: once you get there. Until you get there, you don't
Speaker 1: understand it. And then all the media that comes with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the biggest media market in the world.
Speaker 1: You know, I played with the Lakers, second biggest media market,
Speaker 1: and you know, are off days how big you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of sentences can get thrown out of proportion
Speaker 1: and you beat the fucking bad guys, you know, as
Speaker 1: crazy as that. We're the news, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you drive the news. The Lakers drive
Speaker 1: the news. In the NBA, the Yankees drive the news.
Speaker 1: So you can't even turn on Sports Center like I
Speaker 1: was used to, Like in the clubhouse with the Indians
Speaker 1: with the Brewers, we watched you know, sports and the
Speaker 1: ship all day. With the Yankees, We've never had that
Speaker 1: ship on because it's us, Like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is about us, So that was the biggest thing
Speaker 1: I realized when I got here is that we drive
Speaker 1: the news, so you really can't watch all that ship
Speaker 1: because half of it is wrong anyway, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like it's crazy. How do you handle the
Speaker 1: outside distractions of what you know once you get to
Speaker 1: a certain level. All star, millions of dollars playing for
Speaker 1: the Yankees, all the noise off the field. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was hard. I mean I still I struggled with that.
Speaker 1: I mean I ended up in rehab two fifteen. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean I struggled the whole
Speaker 1: year not drinking, drinking, not drinking. I mean, obviously I
Speaker 1: struggled rehab and you know everything my whole life, I mean,
Speaker 1: drinking my whole life. Um ended up in rehabing fifteen.
Speaker 1: But fifteen just kind of like everything came to a head.
Speaker 1: I got into a big thing in Toronto where it
Speaker 1: was kind of like almost like a little riot um,
Speaker 1: you know, coming out of a club, and I just
Speaker 1: felt like it was time, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it was a crazy time in my life. My
Speaker 1: kids were getting older, you know, they were able enough
Speaker 1: to like start reading on the internet. Some of the
Speaker 1: ship that was going on, and I just felt like
Speaker 1: it was a good time for me to kind of
Speaker 1: like reset hit you know, hit the reset button and
Speaker 1: kind of start over, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: but but at the same time, let everybody know I
Speaker 1: got this problem. You know, I'm here, this is me,
Speaker 1: and it kind of like free me up, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like since then I've been It's weird, man,
Speaker 1: It's like a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. Like
Speaker 1: everybody knows you I'm alcohol Like it is what it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not hiding no more.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sneak a drink here and there,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm good. How did balancing that problem
Speaker 1: being a Yankee star and having a family, How did
Speaker 1: that dynamic? How did that affect your family? I think
Speaker 1: that was the biggest part of me going to rehab
Speaker 1: was what I what how it started to affect my family.
Speaker 1: You know, my my my sixteen year old now at
Speaker 1: the time, he was eleven when I went in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, seeing Dad coming home, you know,
Speaker 1: tipsy A couple of nights after after, you know, road
Speaker 1: trips or whatever, you know, just different things that you know,
Speaker 1: my my nine year old Now he sees my white
Speaker 1: drinking glass of wine and he's like, oh you you're
Speaker 1: drinking again, Like he don't even couirel, Like he don't
Speaker 1: even know that that Like I'm an alcoholic, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's the funny joke in the
Speaker 1: house that like now mom gets ragged off of drinking,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And dad's alcoholic. But it's
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean it was. It was one of
Speaker 1: the better decisions I've ever made in my life. You
Speaker 1: want to rehab to that? Did you hit a dark
Speaker 1: point during that rehab? When I was in rehab was
Speaker 1: one of the best times. Man. Like you don't have
Speaker 1: no phone, you kind of cut off, but you you
Speaker 1: talk to the people who you need to talk to,
Speaker 1: your family, whoever you know, whoever is close to you.
Speaker 1: But you just kind of at peace, trying to figure
Speaker 1: your ship out, you know what I'm saying, Always talk
Speaker 1: my why I'm like, man, I need to like another
Speaker 1: little stint, like let me just like just to read,
Speaker 1: just to get away from people, you know, saying, let
Speaker 1: me turn my phone off get away, like let me
Speaker 1: go to rehab for a week or whatever, just to
Speaker 1: get away. But now, I mean it was it was
Speaker 1: just you know, you just had peace at that time.
Speaker 1: For sure. It's always the people that you love most
Speaker 1: to get you to change for the better. It's always,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, regardless how you go through it,
Speaker 1: we all go through it at a certain point. But
Speaker 1: you know, even like when when my mom died, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, he's a different person since his
Speaker 1: mom died. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't It
Speaker 1: was tough for him for a while, but the person
Speaker 1: he is now, I know she's looking down him and
Speaker 1: proud of him. And I'm just saying that to say
Speaker 1: the hardest part, you like, make you the best person,
Speaker 1: no question of the struggle get to get there. I
Speaker 1: mean since we went back to oh seven, right there,
Speaker 1: Jack oh eight, you're fucking with us during the we
Speaker 1: believe run every single game, every game that's gonna have
Speaker 1: the height of my season ticket. He was flying back
Speaker 1: and form I was coming to playoff games and everything.
Speaker 1: To tell us what that meant to you being something
Speaker 1: from the bay. Yeah, because this ship, I mean, we
Speaker 1: still get so much love. I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: y'all still huge. Y'all there, like y'all is a part
Speaker 1: of y'all always be a part of that fabric in
Speaker 1: the Bay, just because if y'all started the Warriors, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like for us, that was the
Speaker 1: start of the Warriors franchise. All that ship before that
Speaker 1: didn't matter that. I mean, don't disrespect to run t MC.
Speaker 1: I love their dudes, but it's started to know seven flogs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, I mean, y'all for
Speaker 1: ever be out to you know what I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: And y'all was just so cool because everybody y'all be out.
Speaker 1: I mean you was from there obviously, but y'all be
Speaker 1: out in the club, you know, dinner, whatever. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: y'all was really a part of it. So everybody tell
Speaker 1: us that though Mr flab Legit, everybody tell us that
Speaker 1: we all was really worthy. It was really a part
Speaker 1: of the couchable. We was out in the hood. We
Speaker 1: we didn't call ourselves the film or five, but they
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we was playing for the world.
Speaker 1: But if you from the Bay and know about that
Speaker 1: area where he's on the corners smoking and feel more.
Speaker 1: Why we NBA players like that ship don't happen? Does not?
Speaker 1: But you can only do that in the Bay, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you only get love
Speaker 1: like I feel like you only can get love like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: being who y'all was because it's so much jealousy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but they was really fucking with us out there,
Speaker 1: and that fan base has always been so amazing from
Speaker 1: you know, whether the teams are winning or not, you
Speaker 1: still got amazing fans out there. Crazy And I was
Speaker 1: telling somebody, somebody's asked me, Um, the tickets price has
Speaker 1: always been high, like they was even back then, like
Speaker 1: First Side was like crazy. So they I mean the van,
Speaker 1: I mean they've always packed that place. I was always supported.
Speaker 1: I wonder now like them going to Frisco, what it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you know what I'm saying there, I've
Speaker 1: been there, but they got they like I said this
Speaker 1: on the team that showed us love even though I
Speaker 1: didn't win the championship with him, they still it was
Speaker 1: not of support, but they got our pictures up in
Speaker 1: the New Arena. Yeah, yeah, that was love. I thought
Speaker 1: that was big, you know, and the people to make
Speaker 1: us a part of what the new ARENGA. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be different. I think I honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the ass it's a different to me, it's
Speaker 1: a different vibe now, you know. To me, now it's
Speaker 1: more l a business. I mean, that's all the tech business.
Speaker 1: That's you know, it's supposed to be like you took
Speaker 1: it from like the hoods backyard that was like people
Speaker 1: were off the freeway, everybody can get there, and then
Speaker 1: you put it to like the billionaire's backyard. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like where it's like harder to
Speaker 1: get there, and like all those people that's been working
Speaker 1: in the oracle, some people working there for some people
Speaker 1: got to go over there. You know. I was happy
Speaker 1: to see a handful of people. I'm not sure how many,
Speaker 1: but I saw a picture with some of them over there.
Speaker 1: But to me, you've priced the common fan out, you know,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunately you used to think it used to
Speaker 1: be a vibe. And then the club down below when
Speaker 1: my mom rested pieces back there taking shots posses out
Speaker 1: on the balcony, when people a smoke, the serious my
Speaker 1: dad's smoking joints. Some people smoking weed in the arena.
Speaker 1: Like that's what Oracle was. So tell me about your Raiders, man,
Speaker 1: And I know you're a big Raider fan. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all I can say. Yeah, what about the A B situation?
Speaker 1: I mean, I was really looking as a fan of
Speaker 1: football is my first love. I'm not a fan with
Speaker 1: Chucky though, with your coach group, I funk with think
Speaker 1: about the moves he's made and what what if you
Speaker 1: what's going on from the moves? I mean, what you
Speaker 1: think talking to me? I mean, you know you also
Speaker 1: doing somebody like somebody like Chucky. Don't want to get
Speaker 1: like kicked out of my season ticket. But I like
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, I like Waller. I think we got some
Speaker 1: pieces to Bill going to going towards Vegas, but we
Speaker 1: might need the quarterback. Um. I knew A B was
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem when he was in Pittsburgh. Obviously
Speaker 1: they got the organization to kind of contain that kind
Speaker 1: of personnality in Oakland. I knew we didn't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I knew we just wanted the talent
Speaker 1: and not really control. Yeah, I mean, what did you
Speaker 1: I mean as a professional athlete from there, that's your
Speaker 1: favorite team. But as a professional athlete or world, what
Speaker 1: did you think about the way a be maneuver than that?
Speaker 1: Because me and him kind of had different views on it.
Speaker 1: I was well as a fan of the team, I
Speaker 1: was happy because he was off the squad, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, I mean I didn't care how
Speaker 1: you maneuvered out of it. Um as an athlete. I mean,
Speaker 1: as an athlete, I feel like I want guys to
Speaker 1: have more freedom. So the way guys are saying in
Speaker 1: the NBA, fucking trade me or as I ain't playing,
Speaker 1: I want I love that. So I mean, you know, however,
Speaker 1: you got to get out of the situation you don't
Speaker 1: want to be in. Yeah, do it. I mean I
Speaker 1: wish I had the balls to do that. Ship in
Speaker 1: two thousand five when I was in Cleveland, Fuck you trade.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like we was trash and
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun. It was just a bad situation. But
Speaker 1: you know, you just kind of that's just not the
Speaker 1: error we were from. You know, that's just you know,
Speaker 1: basketball is different and sports different now. So um, but
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I love it's like that he would he was trying
Speaker 1: to speak and and and determine where he wanted to play,
Speaker 1: you know, and know his worth. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's cool, But he was acting like a diva by
Speaker 1: the way he was going by doing it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Then, not only was he being a diva,
Speaker 1: now you've got people that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: him or his or his football success coming out with
Speaker 1: message trying to just throw more stuff on, trying to
Speaker 1: destroy him. That's what I'm saying. And I felt like
Speaker 1: he gave them the ammunition to do that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And if you if you're just worried
Speaker 1: about his career and han't did the right way with
Speaker 1: I was going into the media probably set it was
Speaker 1: just a conversation successful in Oakland because Carl won't gonna
Speaker 1: never be able to give him the ball the way
Speaker 1: he wanted the ball, So he was gonna it was
Speaker 1: gonna be disbody by now he would have been like
Speaker 1: all phone grouping. It's not that he wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to get Antonio Brown the ball the way he
Speaker 1: wanted the ball. Roethlisberger is one of the greatest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no question and getting the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't feel like Carl would
Speaker 1: have took Hi up to answers downfield, almost like with
Speaker 1: Baker what you're seeing with Baker and the same. But
Speaker 1: but a b it gonna be like he's gonna get
Speaker 1: on the program and be like that's my guy. But
Speaker 1: he's gonna get up what the fund is doing exactly.
Speaker 1: We was booming last so it was gonna come to
Speaker 1: that point, you know eventually. Yeah, see, I think him
Speaker 1: going with Brady though, would have been a great move.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when you go into certain situations
Speaker 1: like the Spurs, like the Patriots, like the Yankees, like
Speaker 1: the Lakers, like the Warriors, like you know how to
Speaker 1: and I never a superstar, but no matter what your
Speaker 1: ego may have been, like, you come into an organization
Speaker 1: and can expect excellence and you mature or you fit in,
Speaker 1: you don't try to stand out. And I think that
Speaker 1: would have been a perfect situation for him. When you
Speaker 1: go into those locker rooms. No matter how much a
Speaker 1: leader you are, different you are you looked to kind
Speaker 1: of the lead to kind of be lad a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you know that they
Speaker 1: do ship the right way. You know, you watch these
Speaker 1: franchisees win championships, so certain locker rooms you walk into,
Speaker 1: you leave your checking ship at the door, even if
Speaker 1: you don't want to do because you want to win.
Speaker 1: And that's what we all want to do. So you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It makes you check your ship
Speaker 1: when you go to these these prestigious franchises. I guess
Speaker 1: for guys that want to win, though I think everybody
Speaker 1: want to win at the end of the like when
Speaker 1: you get there and you see what it is you
Speaker 1: want to win. I've been, I've been on chance. Guys
Speaker 1: did give a fuck? What day is it? A bro?
Speaker 1: That's the worst. I can't remember. We had two at times.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. Tell me what it was like.
Speaker 1: Now you're going from Major League Hall of Fame picture
Speaker 1: playing with little BBSPN, but you're talking football now. Tell
Speaker 1: me about how dope is that. I thought that when
Speaker 1: I see I was like, yeah, because I want to
Speaker 1: do that. When I first came out and I went
Speaker 1: through some ship and never got back on. But you
Speaker 1: here talking football on a real level. You know what's fun.
Speaker 1: What's crazy is that is fun is obviously I don't
Speaker 1: watch baseball like I mean, I watch it when it's
Speaker 1: live and I'm there and I watched the Yankees, but
Speaker 1: I can't tell you about Gary Cole really like only watching.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you about path my home because
Speaker 1: I watch. I can tell you about Teddy Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: whoever else because I watched football, like I really really
Speaker 1: watched it. Like Game seven, I was going, like the
Speaker 1: next morning, I was going to the ESPN U to
Speaker 1: you know, do the analyst thing and they were gonna
Speaker 1: ask me about the World Series. But it was the
Speaker 1: words is playing and that was a nice step brokeer's hand.
Speaker 1: So like I was watching the game, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wanted to see the updates and ship like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they were getting blown out by Phoenix that night,
Speaker 1: but it was Game seven, and everybody's like, Hi, are
Speaker 1: you not watching baseball? Sucking the Warriors playing right now?
Speaker 1: Watching from you talked about the Warriors. I mean they
Speaker 1: had a hell of a run of dynasty. They built
Speaker 1: the dynasty up in a five year span. Three championships
Speaker 1: should have been four. Um, tell me what it was
Speaker 1: like to be a fan. First of all, for their success.
Speaker 1: They took the next step, well you know they took
Speaker 1: we believe to another step. Um, But tell me what
Speaker 1: that whole run was like to see it start being
Speaker 1: the middle of it and then in the way it
Speaker 1: did and then end with Katie leaving and with Steph
Speaker 1: breaking his hand, like it was dope to be there
Speaker 1: with you guys, like we believe in all that stuff,
Speaker 1: being like be a fan of being part of that,
Speaker 1: and then kind of watched them take the next step.
Speaker 1: When they took the next step, it was still unbelievable,
Speaker 1: like they're about to win, like with shooters, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I didn't if never before, still
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, like and just watching them like it
Speaker 1: was unbelievable to watch what they did and still amazing,
Speaker 1: like the game and it was and it was the
Speaker 1: Warriors too, Like I think the Warriors like win the championship,
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy, man to watch them win three
Speaker 1: out of five, and it's it's fun. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: awesome as a fan, like the dynasty ended. But I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not mad, you know what I'm saying people,
Speaker 1: people get mad and frustrating all that. But but bro,
Speaker 1: like we're from where the Warriors came from when y'all
Speaker 1: took me to and with the guys excelled it to like,
Speaker 1: you cannot be mad if you're from the Bay At
Speaker 1: watching that franchise what they did, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So it was good. I mean it's funny. And I
Speaker 1: still think they one player away, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Clay come back, Steph get healthy next year. You put
Speaker 1: Dremond back in the road and he needs to be
Speaker 1: in and you you know, you flipp D'Angelo, they still
Speaker 1: might be one player away from being right back. Not
Speaker 1: mad at that? Do you well, what team with basketball
Speaker 1: team do you support out here? Brooklyn? Okay, yeah, Brooklyn, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's just it's fun. The energy and there
Speaker 1: you see the paper plane, you know what time it is.
Speaker 1: So so now the team you support, got k D,
Speaker 1: got Kyrie, DeAndre Jordan, a good young team. I think
Speaker 1: I compare them to the Clippers in the West because
Speaker 1: I think they had a core of guys last year
Speaker 1: without a superstar. They really bought in. They did and
Speaker 1: you know they made the players, did you know? They
Speaker 1: did their things and now you add some superstars. Some
Speaker 1: comes with a little baggage. Um you think that, you
Speaker 1: think that hurts a guy like what's the what's the center? Uh?
Speaker 1: With the fro he was bawling. Alan showing up, Jared Allen,
Speaker 1: Jared Thin showing up from last year. It hurts his development,
Speaker 1: or like Carris Levert's development because they you know, kind
Speaker 1: of Leverche kind of like standing around just like spot
Speaker 1: up shooting that where he was like playmaker turning into him.
Speaker 1: He was Almos turned into like an Oladipo type for me,
Speaker 1: where he could, you know, get buckets and score from
Speaker 1: all over the floor and he really kind of standing around.
Speaker 1: He's inside of six man, he's inside. I think he's
Speaker 1: a great He's gonna be a great six man score
Speaker 1: for them because with Kyrie and Katie they have enough scoring.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need those young him and done with it.
Speaker 1: They don't need them to come off the bench and
Speaker 1: create some scoring and some energy off the bench for
Speaker 1: that team. And that's gonna take them over the hull.
Speaker 1: You gotta have guys like Katie and Kyrie to finished
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs, especially in the fourth quarter. But
Speaker 1: you need these young guys to sustain it through the
Speaker 1: regular season. But I love I love Kyrie, but I
Speaker 1: look at like Jayson Tatum and like what he kind
Speaker 1: of stepped back, But like looking at him now, he
Speaker 1: started this growth and he is unreal. That's how he
Speaker 1: came into the league that first year, remember kids, and
Speaker 1: then back, but then he took a step back, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But now he's back to where
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of freak because he ain't got
Speaker 1: Kyrie there, and now he's you know, It's it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me because I was a role player. I knew
Speaker 1: my role. It was never an issue going places and playing.
Speaker 1: But obviously, like when I got to play with someone
Speaker 1: like Kobe or you go to the Warriors, or you know,
Speaker 1: playing with Chris and Blake, you kind of have to
Speaker 1: find your rhythm and find your role. So I think
Speaker 1: early on all these teams, like these the players you mentioned,
Speaker 1: it's kind of still a filing out process, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, because you know what I mean. As
Speaker 1: a team, how important chemistry is, and it takes time
Speaker 1: to build chemistry. And when you're adding such a dynamic
Speaker 1: player such as Kyrie and then you know Jared Allen
Speaker 1: and now you're sharing minutes with DeAndre Jordan's you know
Speaker 1: what I mean when you know. So, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a process that takes time, and I think they'll figure out.
Speaker 1: But that the tough part is is once you figured
Speaker 1: out this year, you gotta figure out again next because
Speaker 1: that's a whole different thing, right, you know. But I
Speaker 1: think they definitely have it if chemistry and people stay healthy.
Speaker 1: You know, by the time Katie is ready to be KD,
Speaker 1: they have a just as good a chance to get
Speaker 1: out the East to anybody, any of else, to me
Speaker 1: watching Kyrie up close and knowing what Katie is, if
Speaker 1: Katie comes back to what he is, they might be
Speaker 1: one of the best teams. Ain't know, Mike too it
Speaker 1: because they got a legit center so they can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that that young kid is nice. Jared
Speaker 1: Island is that his last name? Jared? It's nice. He
Speaker 1: had a good game night last night. What you too?
Speaker 1: I feel like we would kind of like JR a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, where he can like he's a wild card. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And they got their solid Man,
Speaker 1: the NBA is you know, we're a handful of weeks
Speaker 1: in the NBA and there's still you know, there's still
Speaker 1: a few questions. You know, obviously the Warriors dynasty is over.
Speaker 1: Who do you like in the West? Man? I like
Speaker 1: the Clippers. I think they got the best team just
Speaker 1: because of from what they did last year. Um. I
Speaker 1: like that. I like the fact that Kauai went there
Speaker 1: kind of opens up the NBA a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Fair And so I think Dame
Speaker 1: I want to see Dame win. Bro Well, I just
Speaker 1: want to see him play deep into the playoffs and
Speaker 1: I do too, and just hit some big shots. So
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. Do you think about the Lakers? Obviously they're
Speaker 1: gonna be good. I think Danny Green will be huge
Speaker 1: for them. I think Danny Green will be Jack had
Speaker 1: a game one game we was watching that ship over
Speaker 1: was the first game of the season. Well, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was open the night, right and it was over at
Speaker 1: Viola getting right watching the game, and he just didn't
Speaker 1: he was off Danny Green for the night. But Danny
Speaker 1: Green killed him. Just like Bro, He's a veteran he's
Speaker 1: been and they lost Nyaks going exactly what he ain't
Speaker 1: he ain't got. Yeah, but I'm saying Approven knocked down
Speaker 1: shot having proving that, Yeah, I'll take Danny Green over
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. Yeah, I put a bed in
Speaker 1: for a D to win the m VT. Well, to me,
Speaker 1: if a D wins m VP, that makes me feel
Speaker 1: like the Lakers have the best shot to advance in
Speaker 1: the playoffs because that means a D carried him over
Speaker 1: to the Georgia season and Brown got to save Lebron
Speaker 1: could be Lebron in spots. I'm a Laker fan and
Speaker 1: just thinking mentality and a big picture. If you see
Speaker 1: Superstar Lebron all season, they're probably gonna run out of gas.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Lebron said all the right shot
Speaker 1: on media Day right, like he was gonna play the
Speaker 1: offense a D all that stuff. But the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks we've been seeing Superstar ar Brant, he first
Speaker 1: approved that after forty ten and ten he's not playing hard.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of it's easy for him. He
Speaker 1: don't have to work. I mean, but all I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him, but hold on. So he
Speaker 1: got to me at the beginning, he was going through
Speaker 1: a D to see what we had. And then people
Speaker 1: started talking about he lost the step and all this,
Speaker 1: and so can you that's that media market in l A.
Speaker 1: You know, can you take a here's what it is,
Speaker 1: and you take that step back and say, funk what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. I'm still gonna mind. I have a
Speaker 1: plan here. I'm gonna ride a DS motherfucking all season.
Speaker 1: That's the only way, and then I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: my ship in the playoff. That's the only way to
Speaker 1: gonna win. And everybody like you let him forget in
Speaker 1: the regulary, who gives a funk, But it's get it,
Speaker 1: get that. If he shows up scoring forty ten and ten,
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna say ship. If he don't, if he if
Speaker 1: he lets a D win the m v P, let's
Speaker 1: the offense go through him. And then he shows up
Speaker 1: in the playoffs Lebron Yeah, and nobody gonna do because
Speaker 1: they're gonna win. I just feel like he just that
Speaker 1: talented and that much better than everybody in the league,
Speaker 1: that he can average forty without even breaking the sweat dog.
Speaker 1: But it's but he got to be able to do
Speaker 1: the game, but not. I think he can. Man, he
Speaker 1: make it look so easy. Maybe maybe I just think
Speaker 1: he's better than what he is. You know, he can good,
Speaker 1: He's that good. But this is the same grap I
Speaker 1: used to watch him in high school and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: just scoring fifty points and he's just a basketball player
Speaker 1: the right way. But even in high school, I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 1: take the game in Cleveland. Was in Cleveland. So I've
Speaker 1: been watching he's a freshman, but he just plays basketball
Speaker 1: the right way. He's always gonna pass to the right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he's he's gonna play
Speaker 1: it the right way. So maybe that's just me wishing
Speaker 1: I was Lebron. I had Lebron, everybody just go out
Speaker 1: there average, you know what I mean. I haveage fifteen
Speaker 1: by myself. I had Lebron, I would average fifty. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you'd be out there burning tooif
Speaker 1: loaded loaded. Now, I think he gotta let a d
Speaker 1: win m v P turn into Lebron in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and they win, because he's gonna need that, because that's
Speaker 1: the best. What do you think about Houston? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yet they don't play no defense. I like the fact
Speaker 1: that the coach don't even came spell defense. Who's their coach?
Speaker 1: Dann Phony get more jobs than anybody, anybody, that's every
Speaker 1: sport though they got one guy like that. You got
Speaker 1: one guy like that, Like he ain't want nothing but
Speaker 1: keep getting jobs, keeping coaches like that too, Baseball to
Speaker 1: keep getting jobs. I like the fact that they closed
Speaker 1: Westbrook and Harden. I think that's going to help if
Speaker 1: they have a chance to make it work. It's because
Speaker 1: of that, yes, because everybody the first game, everybody was
Speaker 1: making a big deal them arguing on the court, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's that's homeboy, perfect, it's home
Speaker 1: boys because it's game one and they're already in it.
Speaker 1: Like that's like they are they gonna They're gonna figure
Speaker 1: it out and they're gonna figure this out. But they
Speaker 1: just gotta figure out to play defense. The way you
Speaker 1: play is different when you're playing with your own boy.
Speaker 1: You know, you care more, you give more, you know,
Speaker 1: and you can always be like, yo, what the fund
Speaker 1: is you doing? Yeah? You know what really is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And ain't taking his hate either, Yeah. He like in
Speaker 1: the East Man, I like Boston. I like Boston. I like, uh,
Speaker 1: Tatum is tough, trying to tell people to me, he
Speaker 1: and I like him. I like him, but I like
Speaker 1: Tatum um u. That's my I like Boston a lot,
Speaker 1: but I still like the Seven Sex or two and Bi.
Speaker 1: But obviously they ain't got nothing. Boston ain't got nothing
Speaker 1: this inside and paint. Yeah, but they're gonna do there.
Speaker 1: They did with Philly when they did with Philly A
Speaker 1: little too big boys, Philly, I mean to me is
Speaker 1: it's it's Philly's East. I like Milwauke. You can never
Speaker 1: overlook Milwaukee. But I just Philly's tough. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Philly's real bigger than Philly. Though they got they got
Speaker 1: the two Lopez brothers now and they got You can't
Speaker 1: play both of them though, Why you can't the ones
Speaker 1: the shoot you can't play. Yeah, but you can't play
Speaker 1: both of the same man. They're so slow and the
Speaker 1: pig Come on, man, I've been on the Lopez twins since,
Speaker 1: like their brother played a You with me, so they
Speaker 1: used to be twins. A little au ship like underneath
Speaker 1: the bleachers, always getting into some ship, like stealing purses,
Speaker 1: like doing uneath the bleachers, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: one day, these motherfuckers are seven feet tall, bigger than me.
Speaker 1: Going to Standford. I'm like, yo, those are little homes.
Speaker 1: He used to be underneath the stands, stealing persons from Like, no,
Speaker 1: they're from our team was based on the spreads. No,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure where, uh where they were from from.
Speaker 1: They're different from Callie. Good dudes, real good dudes. Happy
Speaker 1: the way their career ended. Let's let's jump back into baseball.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it always seems like and I
Speaker 1: don't think it happened to you because you're still doing
Speaker 1: so much stuff. You're gonna be doing so much stuff.
Speaker 1: But stars in baseball kind of get lost in the
Speaker 1: mixed post post post career because they're not as vigilant
Speaker 1: on social media. Like, what do your thought about that? No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the nature of baseball players. I
Speaker 1: think the nature of baseball in general is to kind
Speaker 1: of be private. You know what I'm saying. You have
Speaker 1: to be humble. The game is hard to play, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you succeed three out of
Speaker 1: ten times out of hit, or you're a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm saying, So it's hard to play.
Speaker 1: So in your nature, I think as a baseball player
Speaker 1: is to be humble and kind of reserve. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's no big social media presidents, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't even have Twitter on my phone,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I just think that's just kind of the nature of
Speaker 1: the guys. And a lot of the guys don't even
Speaker 1: want to be They don't care about it, they don't
Speaker 1: even want to be on TV or you know, any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So it's kind of the guys that
Speaker 1: you see in baseball that that do it are the
Speaker 1: guys that want to How do you do you feel
Speaker 1: that them being not as present, uh on the social
Speaker 1: platforms hurts baseball? Yeah, I think it definitely hurts the sport.
Speaker 1: And I think, um, I mean, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a big problem. Obviously, a lot of
Speaker 1: kids are not playing. We can't get you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of viewership. Um, you know, it's even hard for me.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to watch the ship, you know,
Speaker 1: if I don't have anybody in it. You know, it
Speaker 1: was just saying talking about Mike Trout, you know, him
Speaker 1: being out in public. You know, he would much rather
Speaker 1: not recognized, not recognize him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to not be noticed, And he's the biggest player in
Speaker 1: the game, you know what I'm saying, Aaron Judge, you're
Speaker 1: gonna notice in six pounds even still he still don't
Speaker 1: you know, he's still you know, I don't want to be,
Speaker 1: you know, out there like that. So I just think
Speaker 1: it's you know, just just the nature of baseball makes
Speaker 1: it hard for us to be on social media every
Speaker 1: day with you know, being flash hard. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You know, you're gonna fail a lot. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about people like Mike Trout and and
Speaker 1: some of these other players signing these long term deals
Speaker 1: and then like a situation like with Bryce Harper where
Speaker 1: he decides not to take the money and go somewhere
Speaker 1: else and then you know, his his former team. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's good. The baseball teams are
Speaker 1: making so much money, Like it's crazy, Uh, the amount
Speaker 1: of money that's in the game and the amount of
Speaker 1: money that's out there for these for guys to make
Speaker 1: I think it's dope. I think I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I would want it. Might try to make fifty million
Speaker 1: a year. I want Mookie Best to make sixty million.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, these guys deserve
Speaker 1: it to me, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: think it's great that these guys are signing these huge deals.
Speaker 1: And I think it's good that these guys are signing
Speaker 1: nineteen year deals with one team. You'll you'll get back
Speaker 1: to seeing franchise players. You'll get back to seeing the
Speaker 1: Derrek Jeter play with one friend, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the you know that one guy that played with that
Speaker 1: one franchise at their whole because that's lost in sports now,
Speaker 1: that's lost. But then on the flip side, it's differently
Speaker 1: for being a purist and fear from back in the day,
Speaker 1: like that's what we like. But then at the same time,
Speaker 1: the excitement of moving parts now with superstars is what
Speaker 1: makes the NBA are starting to rise so much. That's true,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's it kind of goes both ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just thought it was crazy that, you know,
Speaker 1: Washington loses Bryce Harper the playing wild card and they
Speaker 1: win a championship man. Sometimes when you lose that one
Speaker 1: super that one superstar was, it's all like most of
Speaker 1: the time, it's all about them. It kind of like
Speaker 1: it's just them and then as y'all. So then when
Speaker 1: he left, it didn't matter. It was just us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now it's just as anyway.
Speaker 1: Huh So it just kind of makes it better a
Speaker 1: little bit. When it's that that one guy is that big,
Speaker 1: you can rally around just your group, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think that's kind of what they did.
Speaker 1: And I was able to free up some money not
Speaker 1: giving million. I saw how many people they signed with
Speaker 1: the money they were gonna give him. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: mean not for nothing. Bryce Harper had. You know, he's
Speaker 1: won the m v P, but ever since then, he
Speaker 1: hasn't really been what people expecting to be. Mike Trout
Speaker 1: is what Bryce Harper gets the attention that Mike Trout
Speaker 1: she did, and Mike trust the player, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So effective coming from someone that you know,
Speaker 1: it's in that space. Yeah, I mean, you know, it
Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is, and it was
Speaker 1: it was cool to see them, dude, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: friends with Scherzer, so it was good to see him,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of come back and win game seven. Um,
Speaker 1: now that was that was that was fun to see
Speaker 1: and to see you know, Michael Taylor, Juan Soto, all
Speaker 1: the young dudes, m Howie, Kendrick he Man, and there's
Speaker 1: so many, so few African Americans playing the games. You
Speaker 1: can see him kind of doing things. I mean, it's uh,
Speaker 1: he was huge for them, being someone that played multiple sport.
Speaker 1: I kind of saw you brought your swag to baseball,
Speaker 1: which you hat the way you wore your hat eventually
Speaker 1: coming out and motherfucking playing in Jordan's you know, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me what you think about you know what you
Speaker 1: brought to the game. I just tried to bring. I
Speaker 1: guess the crest for Lao. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like myself, um, just my authentic self whatever to the game.
Speaker 1: I mean it was hard. A lot of people hated
Speaker 1: me at the first I'm saying with my hat and
Speaker 1: you know, baseball's kind of a conservative game. You know,
Speaker 1: was grabbing my hand, you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: get the third out, I get the ball in my hand,
Speaker 1: like they didn't like that ship. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of ship that people didn't like about me when I
Speaker 1: first came up. So, um, I had to play good.
Speaker 1: I had to pitch, I had to I had to
Speaker 1: perform to be able to do what I wanted to bring.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know it ended
Speaker 1: up working out. What do you mean get your hand?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? So like if if
Speaker 1: I get the third out, they throw it to the
Speaker 1: third baseman, like I was just grabbing with my hands,
Speaker 1: just kind of a thing I started doing in high school.
Speaker 1: And we had an old third basically named Travis Freeman.
Speaker 1: He was old school. Um, he didn't like that ship.
Speaker 1: He hated it. So the whole first half of the
Speaker 1: season he would throw that ship hard, like like most
Speaker 1: of the guys like when I was in my leagues,
Speaker 1: you know, grab it. He thought that ship hard. I'm
Speaker 1: just grabbing my hand, fuck it and get right back
Speaker 1: in the ma what I'm saying. So, like, I had
Speaker 1: one good game against Detroit and halfway through the game
Speaker 1: he stopped doing that ship and and it just kind
Speaker 1: of kind of left me alone. It's that too many
Speaker 1: African American is in baseball. Why do you think that
Speaker 1: is it's hard. It's it's it's uh one of those
Speaker 1: sports where it's expensive to play, um till at an
Speaker 1: early age with the travel ball, it's expensive to play.
Speaker 1: You know, you need gear. Um I think, um in
Speaker 1: high school, you know, I mean in college, you can't
Speaker 1: get a full scholarship to play baseball. Really, so the
Speaker 1: most you can, you know that the most they give
Speaker 1: guys is you know, so us growing up, you know,
Speaker 1: we played football and baseball. So you played football and baseball,
Speaker 1: and you got a scholarship to go to U c.
Speaker 1: L A To play football and cow to play baseball,
Speaker 1: and it's fifty baseball, Like you gotta take the football.
Speaker 1: It's not even a you know what I'm say, it's
Speaker 1: not even the option coming from where we came from.
Speaker 1: So that eliminates us, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like eliminates us from college baseball right there. Um, so
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge problem. I think. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think baseball is one of those sports where you know,
Speaker 1: like my dad was taking me out, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying every day, and I think, you know, the
Speaker 1: last you know, this last generation. I guess I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the dad has been incarcerated. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. In baseball is one in the
Speaker 1: sports where your dad's gotta teach you that sport. And
Speaker 1: it's been hard in the hood to have fathers around
Speaker 1: old enough to like baseball and to teach their kids that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: different contributing factors, but it's a big gas problem in
Speaker 1: the game. I think basketball stone Some of that too,
Speaker 1: is the hype of basketball. The hype of basketball, like
Speaker 1: you said, the moving parts of superstars moving everybody is
Speaker 1: they're very visible, you know what I'm saying. We're buying
Speaker 1: Kyrie shoes, We're buying Jordan's, We're buying Kobe's and Katie's.
Speaker 1: Um it's way more appealing and and basketball players are
Speaker 1: more like us, you know what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: we can see ourselves out there on that we can
Speaker 1: see ourselves and we don't really see ourselves. But when
Speaker 1: I was growing up, you saw yourself Ricky Henderson moment,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that was me. I
Speaker 1: saw myself out there. Kids in the hood can't see
Speaker 1: themselves on the baseball field. No more. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, too bad because I loved it, Because I
Speaker 1: mean I loved I played it through high school. I
Speaker 1: still play traveling softball. Like I really loved baseball, and
Speaker 1: I put the twins. I think I put the twins
Speaker 1: in the two really because they excelled in football and basketball,
Speaker 1: and then they could hit baseball, but no one else
Speaker 1: could hit so the game was too slow. So then
Speaker 1: that defense sucks and I'm like there four or five
Speaker 1: and they cry and we have to go to practice
Speaker 1: and don't want them just like I'm not gonna make
Speaker 1: my kids do anything when it comes to sports. So
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of had to pull away, and
Speaker 1: I was hurt, But I got a eleven month old.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play baseball. Ashton is gonna play baseball, and
Speaker 1: by the time he's only going to get one of
Speaker 1: these five hundred million dollar contracts. Tell me about your
Speaker 1: Jordan collections. I heard it's insane. Yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: lot of James. But I've been need to go shopping
Speaker 1: in this close now I don't even I'm not even
Speaker 1: I like like the kickids, like through I need some
Speaker 1: air maxim Runners. And now I've been with I signed
Speaker 1: with Jordan's and oh seven, So I mean you know
Speaker 1: that's the same year I signed them boxes seven. When
Speaker 1: did your boxes stop coming? Jack said stop my box
Speaker 1: to stop coming in fourteen? So if m J sees
Speaker 1: this right now, what would you say to MJ about
Speaker 1: your boxes? MJ? I remember him taking back and gave
Speaker 1: me my deal right on the sideline when I signed
Speaker 1: with the Bob Cats, and unfortunately somebody was working that
Speaker 1: was not working for your company now took my deal.
Speaker 1: Ain't number of the conversations. I need the boxes, bad man.
Speaker 1: And if you don't get this message, gonna get it.
Speaker 1: If you do get this, man, you're watching this police
Speaker 1: keeps into my back. I just need your boxes even
Speaker 1: don't understand you understanding, bro, I never got the boxes
Speaker 1: like y'all got. But but but growing up not being
Speaker 1: able to force ship to just having boxes of Jordans
Speaker 1: delivered of all shows like Live It to your house.
Speaker 1: I had my first pair of Jordans. I was seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, you know what I'm saying. Like I was
Speaker 1: senior in high school. You know, my mom busted her ass,
Speaker 1: like went to them all like showed up at my game.
Speaker 1: We played hoping for She showed up at the game
Speaker 1: with Jordans and like I cried, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'll never get that. So I wore him to school,
Speaker 1: played in the game with him, him to the party.
Speaker 1: So dope, okay, in the same path on everything, I
Speaker 1: got something to give away to people. Think you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it was. It was a blessing somebody. I
Speaker 1: need the boxes back, man, I need them that But
Speaker 1: anyway back back to your collection, Yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 1: I got a lot. It's crazy. I give a lot
Speaker 1: of them away. Though. I got three cousins that wear
Speaker 1: fifteens perfect and uh in Valleo, so they get all
Speaker 1: the boxes. I know they stayed fresh. Yeah. But one
Speaker 1: of my little cousins though he lived out here for
Speaker 1: like five years, the lot, he just moved back so
Speaker 1: he would get the boxes. I had to get the
Speaker 1: jordan A to see like what shoes is though, because
Speaker 1: you know my old as, I'm like, you just take them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This Nick was taking all
Speaker 1: the giving you the team keeping there like oh this
Speaker 1: is this is I'm like, yeah, I gotta be I
Speaker 1: gotta beat you to the mill box to get it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You better. Uh, it's fun though, It's it's cool to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. It's fun to be a
Speaker 1: part of brand. Yeah, that's dope. So being from the
Speaker 1: West Coast and we definitely have a certain type of
Speaker 1: music and swagging and flare. And then you're kind of
Speaker 1: a New Yorker now you know you've been out here
Speaker 1: for ten plus years? Yeah years, you know, so what
Speaker 1: is what's your media game like? Right now? Man? Right now?
Speaker 1: I was just driving in right now, I was listening
Speaker 1: to the Blueprint to um New Yorker due to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but I still got like, you know, I
Speaker 1: still got my old Valeo forever, high feet, always veteran
Speaker 1: now so that I always be like, that's always That's
Speaker 1: just a part of me, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: And then I'm a big I've always been a big
Speaker 1: Hole fan. But right now like new music, the baby,
Speaker 1: um with the baby. Um. We just who's your top
Speaker 1: five rappers all time? Mac Dre is number one for
Speaker 1: me for sure, Pop Snoop, Hole and Biggie. It's just
Speaker 1: my top five. It's your top five, Yeah, Scarface, Park,
Speaker 1: jay Z, Biggie, bumby. He went on something craziest fun
Speaker 1: big nice. Scar Face DM me the other day asking
Speaker 1: when we gonna play golf? That ship blew my fucking man,
Speaker 1: brother mob right now, yeah, families said, he said, Matt,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out there and play golf. I said,
Speaker 1: who the fund is this? And he's running for something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: congressmen right now, Congressman, that's dope, shout out and Scarface.
Speaker 1: My top five would be part Snoop, j Biggie Nipsey.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it was yeah, because I
Speaker 1: get stuck. Jack knows I'd be getting stuck on ships
Speaker 1: ever since he knew me. Was all pop. And then
Speaker 1: my brother put me on Nip in like two thousand nine,
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, and it was little cousin put me
Speaker 1: nip with Matt. But I didn't listen to jay Z
Speaker 1: until I got to the minor ladies to college because
Speaker 1: we didn't like we wasn't really bumping ja on the
Speaker 1: West Coast. We had like only listen to Max Drake,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like best from my neighborhood
Speaker 1: and listening as you listen to. So I didn't listen
Speaker 1: to to to jay Z until I had a roommate
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues that was a big jay Z
Speaker 1: fan and that's all he played one summer, So then
Speaker 1: I kind of got on it, like nine eight, same thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't start listening to jay Z until I was
Speaker 1: at U c l A with teammates who were from
Speaker 1: other places, you know what I mean. Like it wasn't
Speaker 1: we listened to West Coast music, you know what I means.
Speaker 1: So you know what's crazy people always make Like back then,
Speaker 1: people always made fun of the forty. Now they come on,
Speaker 1: they get his respect now that not not your but
Speaker 1: like like I we should listening to the fort you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That was like it did back
Speaker 1: in the day. Now it's like they gotta respect him
Speaker 1: for him. The other day at the name drop moment
Speaker 1: at Gabby Union's birthday party. Yeah, seeing them short and
Speaker 1: her little cousin sweety. But forty is a fucking legend, legend,
Speaker 1: big Tine Warrior fan hero. He rocked with us the
Speaker 1: whole He's been rocking with the words he's not with
Speaker 1: forty two. In Texas, we had a DJ and DJ
Speaker 1: screw recipe and he used to slow the music down,
Speaker 1: but Cibo uh spice one all that, and that's what
Speaker 1: we learned about jay Z too, because he's just music
Speaker 1: from everywhere. Yeah, so we have m c a all that.
Speaker 1: He used to screw all that music. Yeah. We were
Speaker 1: just on the West Coast ship like me and I
Speaker 1: was in high school. I was listening. The only outside
Speaker 1: person I was really listening to was Masterpeek, Masterpeek. The
Speaker 1: only maleside person I was listening to was Biggie. Always
Speaker 1: gravit my fat as, always gravitating towards rapper. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I like heavy d Biggie, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, mcmaul, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I was like Cebo brother lynch All the
Speaker 1: Bay Area ship, Snoop spice Mall had a classic album,
Speaker 1: his first album, Selly Sell Sell Sell. You need to
Speaker 1: get right, They get right, they get right. Yeah. What's up?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite restaurant out here? Favorite Carbone Carbone? Hit
Speaker 1: that money to go straight back to our little spot,
Speaker 1: real quick and congregated. Yeah, I think we should. Any
Speaker 1: hobbies or anything you're looking forward to getting into now
Speaker 1: in any of the retired life. I want to get
Speaker 1: better at golfing, Yeah, my daughters held up. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm playing. I'm a big I love fishing, Okay, I
Speaker 1: go fishing all over all over the place. I love fishing.
Speaker 1: Um drive, that's gonna drive yall, Candy watch you'll play
Speaker 1: smoke with y'all, wife, I don't want to play. Shout
Speaker 1: out a whiz pack. They got the dopest you see that,
Speaker 1: you get cold. Shout out, that's the best golf back
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, shout out Mike Evans and bro
Speaker 1: send me's got a speaker on it. Yeah, DJ for y'all, Yeah, DJ, whatever,
Speaker 1: But I'm not paying. What kind of I got? I
Speaker 1: got plus one plus plus one and a half. So
Speaker 1: I got oh that's my uh from my Adidas that
Speaker 1: used to be titlists. I got those. But I need
Speaker 1: to actually need to get refitted. I've just seen Cobra
Speaker 1: just came out with a new said, I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to get on that. But how long are
Speaker 1: you gonna be down with your show? I think until
Speaker 1: having on and I think, what are they doing here?
Speaker 1: What are they doing to you? I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: repair the whole thing, uh, just so I can be
Speaker 1: able to throw because you know, I got the Boys
Speaker 1: and the night and your own be able to throw BP,
Speaker 1: be able to throw BP to the boys at Yankee
Speaker 1: Stadium if I had to, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: so they got to repair at all bad practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then next time, you never the celebrity game, you
Speaker 1: gotta have me and Jack comet. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I want to do it in the summertime next year.
Speaker 1: Like on the weekend, I pulled up and just watched.
Speaker 1: I know that happened to be in Townpa's the mother
Speaker 1: Ship and they said CC. I was like, damn, let's
Speaker 1: go back next year. Even if y'all like do the
Speaker 1: pot from there. I know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: want to do a live pot. I want to play
Speaker 1: in pot. Yeah. Tell me about your foundation and with
Speaker 1: what you and your wife do and the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff you got to do in the community. Yes, the
Speaker 1: picture of me and Nember started two thousand and eight. Um,
Speaker 1: we just try to help kids in the hood. Um
Speaker 1: through sports and education. Uh. I grew up in a
Speaker 1: Boys and Girls club and I try to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: help those type type of tools. Partner up with the
Speaker 1: boys and Girls club, here. We do feel renovations. I'm
Speaker 1: actually doing two now. I'm doing one in Vallet, I'm
Speaker 1: doing and I'm doing one in the Bronx. Right now,
Speaker 1: what do you guys do? Redo the whole part? Um,
Speaker 1: come in and make it like a big league feel,
Speaker 1: you know, like you just want to play on something
Speaker 1: nice man like, like the wolfball, like the pro. So
Speaker 1: we do that on both coats. We've been doing that.
Speaker 1: We do backpack giveaways here and in vallel um and
Speaker 1: you d a marathon to right? My wife. My wife
Speaker 1: has a running team. She has a bunch of people
Speaker 1: that runs a marathon. I'm not never running. That's not
Speaker 1: your game, huh. I can't run from to the door.
Speaker 1: Him and his wife a great parents because my daughter
Speaker 1: used to living and his daughters and my daughter were
Speaker 1: real close, you know when they've lived there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I have some great prank and your daughters, sweet and
Speaker 1: sweet girl, tell me, tell me how amazing fatherhood is
Speaker 1: for you. It's been fun, man, it's been Uh, it's
Speaker 1: been good. You know. I lost my dad in two thirteen.
Speaker 1: We was real close. I was twenty three years old
Speaker 1: the same year my son was born. Um, so it's
Speaker 1: been fun to kind of like grow up and kind
Speaker 1: of turned into him. I see myself a lot of
Speaker 1: this ship. I say to my son, I'd be like, damn,
Speaker 1: my dad, you know what I'm saying. So it's fun
Speaker 1: to be a dad man. It's it's it takes. It
Speaker 1: makes sports like easy, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I come home after a game. They don't care if
Speaker 1: I threw a no hitter or gave up seven runs,
Speaker 1: like dad's home, time to play, you know, funk everything else.
Speaker 1: So that kind of like, because I'm super intense when
Speaker 1: it comes to like sports, so that kind of took
Speaker 1: it kind of took took my edge off a little bit.
Speaker 1: So it helped me out a lot. And they they
Speaker 1: I've been to to his daughter's birthday party before they
Speaker 1: go all out on are they parties? Are I just
Speaker 1: you know, she's super fessive. I just live there. I
Speaker 1: don't be knowing ship. We had a whole uh, we
Speaker 1: had a whole ready uh renewal last year and that,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know ship. I was walking in like
Speaker 1: this ship is amazing. I was just as amazing to
Speaker 1: guests like to show up. Man, it's fun. It's all right,
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Have you have your wife, have you life?
Speaker 1: All right? Man, that's a wrap, my man. Ccuh man.
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