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Speaker 1: Questions who got to him? First? Welcome Back, Episode four,

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Speaker 1: Coming to you from New York City and why with

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Retire Bay. Yeah, I'm ready, We're about to

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Speaker 1: just to get away from people, you know, saying, let

426
00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: me turn my phone off get away, like let me

427
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 1: go to rehab for a week or whatever, just to

428
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 1: get away. But now, I mean it was it was

429
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 1: just you know, you just had peace at that time.

430
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: For sure. It's always the people that you love most

431
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,120
Speaker 1: to get you to change for the better. It's always,

432
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, regardless how you go through it,

433
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 1: we all go through it at a certain point. But

434
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, even like when when my mom died, you

435
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, he's a different person since his

436
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 1: mom died. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't It

437
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: was tough for him for a while, but the person

438
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: he is now, I know she's looking down him and

439
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 1: proud of him. And I'm just saying that to say

440
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: the hardest part, you like, make you the best person,

441
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 1: no question of the struggle get to get there. I

442
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 1: mean since we went back to oh seven, right there,

443
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 1: Jack oh eight, you're fucking with us during the we

444
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,959
Speaker 1: believe run every single game, every game that's gonna have

445
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: the height of my season ticket. He was flying back

446
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,880
Speaker 1: and form I was coming to playoff games and everything.

447
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: To tell us what that meant to you being something

448
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 1: from the bay. Yeah, because this ship, I mean, we

449
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 1: still get so much love. I was just about to say,

450
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 1: y'all still huge. Y'all there, like y'all is a part

451
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: of y'all always be a part of that fabric in

452
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: the Bay, just because if y'all started the Warriors, you

453
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like for us, that was the

454
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: start of the Warriors franchise. All that ship before that

455
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,679
Speaker 1: didn't matter that. I mean, don't disrespect to run t MC.

456
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: I love their dudes, but it's started to know seven flogs,

457
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, I mean, y'all for

458
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,719
Speaker 1: ever be out to you know what I'm saying like,

459
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 1: And y'all was just so cool because everybody y'all be out.

460
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 1: I mean you was from there obviously, but y'all be

461
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 1: out in the club, you know, dinner, whatever. Like I mean,

462
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: y'all was really a part of it. So everybody tell

463
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 1: us that though Mr flab Legit, everybody tell us that

464
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: we all was really worthy. It was really a part

465
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 1: of the couchable. We was out in the hood. We

466
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: we didn't call ourselves the film or five, but they

467
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we was playing for the world.

468
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: But if you from the Bay and know about that

469
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: area where he's on the corners smoking and feel more.

470
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Why we NBA players like that ship don't happen? Does not?

471
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: But you can only do that in the Bay, right,

472
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you only get love

473
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 1: like I feel like you only can get love like that. Yeah,

474
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: being who y'all was because it's so much jealousy. Yeah,

475
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: I mean, but they was really fucking with us out there,

476
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 1: and that fan base has always been so amazing from

477
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: you know, whether the teams are winning or not, you

478
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: still got amazing fans out there. Crazy And I was

479
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: telling somebody, somebody's asked me, Um, the tickets price has

480
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: always been high, like they was even back then, like

481
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: First Side was like crazy. So they I mean the van,

482
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: I mean they've always packed that place. I was always supported.

483
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: I wonder now like them going to Frisco, what it's

484
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna be like, you know what I'm saying there, I've

485
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: been there, but they got they like I said this

486
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 1: on the team that showed us love even though I

487
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 1: didn't win the championship with him, they still it was

488
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: not of support, but they got our pictures up in

489
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: the New Arena. Yeah, yeah, that was love. I thought

490
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: that was big, you know, and the people to make

491
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: us a part of what the new ARENGA. I don't know.

492
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be different. I think I honestly,

493
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: I think the ass it's a different to me, it's

494
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: a different vibe now, you know. To me, now it's

495
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: more l a business. I mean, that's all the tech business.

496
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: That's you know, it's supposed to be like you took

497
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: it from like the hoods backyard that was like people

498
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: were off the freeway, everybody can get there, and then

499
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 1: you put it to like the billionaire's backyard. Yeah, you

500
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like where it's like harder to

501
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: get there, and like all those people that's been working

502
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: in the oracle, some people working there for some people

503
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: got to go over there. You know. I was happy

504
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: to see a handful of people. I'm not sure how many,

505
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: but I saw a picture with some of them over there.

506
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: But to me, you've priced the common fan out, you know,

507
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: which is unfortunately you used to think it used to

508
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 1: be a vibe. And then the club down below when

509
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: my mom rested pieces back there taking shots posses out

510
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: on the balcony, when people a smoke, the serious my

511
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: dad's smoking joints. Some people smoking weed in the arena.

512
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: Like that's what Oracle was. So tell me about your Raiders, man,

513
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: And I know you're a big Raider fan. Yeah, that's

514
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: all I can say. Yeah, what about the A B situation?

515
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I was really looking as a fan of

516
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: football is my first love. I'm not a fan with

517
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Chucky though, with your coach group, I funk with think

518
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: about the moves he's made and what what if you

519
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: what's going on from the moves? I mean, what you

520
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: think talking to me? I mean, you know you also

521
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: doing somebody like somebody like Chucky. Don't want to get

522
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: like kicked out of my season ticket. But I like

523
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs, I like Waller. I think we got some

524
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: pieces to Bill going to going towards Vegas, but we

525
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: might need the quarterback. Um. I knew A B was

526
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem when he was in Pittsburgh. Obviously

527
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: they got the organization to kind of contain that kind

528
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: of personnality in Oakland. I knew we didn't you know

529
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I knew we just wanted the talent

530
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: and not really control. Yeah, I mean, what did you

531
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean as a professional athlete from there, that's your

532
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: favorite team. But as a professional athlete or world, what

533
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: did you think about the way a be maneuver than that?

534
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: Because me and him kind of had different views on it.

535
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: I was well as a fan of the team, I

536
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: was happy because he was off the squad, you know

537
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, I mean I didn't care how

538
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: you maneuvered out of it. Um as an athlete. I mean,

539
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: as an athlete, I feel like I want guys to

540
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: have more freedom. So the way guys are saying in

541
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: the NBA, fucking trade me or as I ain't playing,

542
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: I want I love that. So I mean, you know, however,

543
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: you got to get out of the situation you don't

544
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: want to be in. Yeah, do it. I mean I

545
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: wish I had the balls to do that. Ship in

546
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: two thousand five when I was in Cleveland, Fuck you trade.

547
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like we was trash and

548
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun. It was just a bad situation. But

549
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: you know, you just kind of that's just not the

550
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: error we were from. You know, that's just you know,

551
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: basketball is different and sports different now. So um, but

552
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you know, it is what it is.

553
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: I love it's like that he would he was trying

554
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: to speak and and and determine where he wanted to play,

555
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, and know his worth. You know what I'm saying.

556
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: That's cool, But he was acting like a diva by

557
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: the way he was going by doing it, you know

558
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. Then, not only was he being a diva,

559
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: now you've got people that has nothing to do with

560
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: him or his or his football success coming out with

561
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: message trying to just throw more stuff on, trying to

562
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: destroy him. That's what I'm saying. And I felt like

563
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: he gave them the ammunition to do that, you know

564
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And if you if you're just worried

565
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: about his career and han't did the right way with

566
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: I was going into the media probably set it was

567
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: just a conversation successful in Oakland because Carl won't gonna

568
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: never be able to give him the ball the way

569
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: he wanted the ball, So he was gonna it was

570
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna be disbody by now he would have been like

571
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: all phone grouping. It's not that he wouldn't have been

572
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: able to get Antonio Brown the ball the way he

573
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: wanted the ball. Roethlisberger is one of the greatest. Yeah,

574
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: no question and getting the ball, you know what I'm saying, Like,

575
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't feel like Carl would

576
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: have took Hi up to answers downfield, almost like with

577
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: Baker what you're seeing with Baker and the same. But

578
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 1: but a b it gonna be like he's gonna get

579
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: on the program and be like that's my guy. But

580
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna get up what the fund is doing exactly.

581
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: We was booming last so it was gonna come to

582
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: that point, you know eventually. Yeah, see, I think him

583
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: going with Brady though, would have been a great move.

584
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: I think, you know, when you go into certain situations

585
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: like the Spurs, like the Patriots, like the Yankees, like

586
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: the Lakers, like the Warriors, like you know how to

587
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: and I never a superstar, but no matter what your

588
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: ego may have been, like, you come into an organization

589
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: and can expect excellence and you mature or you fit in,

590
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: you don't try to stand out. And I think that

591
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: would have been a perfect situation for him. When you

592
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: go into those locker rooms. No matter how much a

593
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: leader you are, different you are you looked to kind

594
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: of the lead to kind of be lad a little bit,

595
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you know that they

596
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: do ship the right way. You know, you watch these

597
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: franchisees win championships, so certain locker rooms you walk into,

598
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: you leave your checking ship at the door, even if

599
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to do because you want to win.

600
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: And that's what we all want to do. So you

601
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It makes you check your ship

602
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: when you go to these these prestigious franchises. I guess

603
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: for guys that want to win, though I think everybody

604
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: want to win at the end of the like when

605
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: you get there and you see what it is you

606
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: want to win. I've been, I've been on chance. Guys

607
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: did give a fuck? What day is it? A bro?

608
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: That's the worst. I can't remember. We had two at times.

609
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. Tell me what it was like.

610
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Now you're going from Major League Hall of Fame picture

611
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: playing with little BBSPN, but you're talking football now. Tell

612
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: me about how dope is that. I thought that when

613
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: I see I was like, yeah, because I want to

614
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: do that. When I first came out and I went

615
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: through some ship and never got back on. But you

616
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: here talking football on a real level. You know what's fun.

617
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: What's crazy is that is fun is obviously I don't

618
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: watch baseball like I mean, I watch it when it's

619
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: live and I'm there and I watched the Yankees, but

620
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: I can't tell you about Gary Cole really like only watching.

621
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: But I can tell you about path my home because

622
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 1: I watch. I can tell you about Teddy Bridgewater and

623
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: whoever else because I watched football, like I really really

624
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: watched it. Like Game seven, I was going, like the

625
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: next morning, I was going to the ESPN U to

626
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, do the analyst thing and they were gonna

627
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: ask me about the World Series. But it was the

628
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: words is playing and that was a nice step brokeer's hand.

629
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: So like I was watching the game, you know what

630
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wanted to see the updates and ship like,

631
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they were getting blown out by Phoenix that night,

632
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: but it was Game seven, and everybody's like, Hi, are

633
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you not watching baseball? Sucking the Warriors playing right now?

634
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Watching from you talked about the Warriors. I mean they

635
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: had a hell of a run of dynasty. They built

636
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: the dynasty up in a five year span. Three championships

637
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: should have been four. Um, tell me what it was

638
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: like to be a fan. First of all, for their success.

639
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: They took the next step, well you know they took

640
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: we believe to another step. Um, But tell me what

641
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: that whole run was like to see it start being

642
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: the middle of it and then in the way it

643
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: did and then end with Katie leaving and with Steph

644
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: breaking his hand, like it was dope to be there

645
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: with you guys, like we believe in all that stuff,

646
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: being like be a fan of being part of that,

647
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: and then kind of watched them take the next step.

648
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: When they took the next step, it was still unbelievable,

649
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: like they're about to win, like with shooters, you know

650
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I didn't if never before, still

651
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, like and just watching them like it

652
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: was unbelievable to watch what they did and still amazing,

653
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: like the game and it was and it was the

654
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Warriors too, Like I think the Warriors like win the championship,

655
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy, man to watch them win three

656
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: out of five, and it's it's fun. I mean, it's

657
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: awesome as a fan, like the dynasty ended. But I

658
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: mean I'm not mad, you know what I'm saying people,

659
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: people get mad and frustrating all that. But but bro,

660
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: like we're from where the Warriors came from when y'all

661
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: took me to and with the guys excelled it to like,

662
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 1: you cannot be mad if you're from the Bay At

663
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: watching that franchise what they did, you know what I'm saying,

664
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: So it was good. I mean it's funny. And I

665
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: still think they one player away, you know what I'm saying,

666
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Clay come back, Steph get healthy next year. You put

667
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Dremond back in the road and he needs to be

668
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: in and you you know, you flipp D'Angelo, they still

669
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: might be one player away from being right back. Not

670
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: mad at that? Do you well, what team with basketball

671
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: team do you support out here? Brooklyn? Okay, yeah, Brooklyn, Okay,

672
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's just it's fun. The energy and there

673
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: you see the paper plane, you know what time it is.

674
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: So so now the team you support, got k D,

675
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: got Kyrie, DeAndre Jordan, a good young team. I think

676
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: I compare them to the Clippers in the West because

677
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: I think they had a core of guys last year

678
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: without a superstar. They really bought in. They did and

679
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: you know they made the players, did you know? They

680
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: did their things and now you add some superstars. Some

681
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: comes with a little baggage. Um you think that, you

682
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: think that hurts a guy like what's the what's the center? Uh?

683
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: With the fro he was bawling. Alan showing up, Jared Allen,

684
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Jared Thin showing up from last year. It hurts his development,

685
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: or like Carris Levert's development because they you know, kind

686
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: of Leverche kind of like standing around just like spot

687
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: up shooting that where he was like playmaker turning into him.

688
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: He was Almos turned into like an Oladipo type for me,

689
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: where he could, you know, get buckets and score from

690
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: all over the floor and he really kind of standing around.

691
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: He's inside of six man, he's inside. I think he's

692
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: a great He's gonna be a great six man score

693
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: for them because with Kyrie and Katie they have enough scoring.

694
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna need those young him and done with it.

695
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: They don't need them to come off the bench and

696
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: create some scoring and some energy off the bench for

697
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: that team. And that's gonna take them over the hull.

698
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: You gotta have guys like Katie and Kyrie to finished

699
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: games in the playoffs, especially in the fourth quarter. But

700
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: you need these young guys to sustain it through the

701
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: regular season. But I love I love Kyrie, but I

702
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: look at like Jayson Tatum and like what he kind

703
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: of stepped back, But like looking at him now, he

704
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: started this growth and he is unreal. That's how he

705
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: came into the league that first year, remember kids, and

706
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: then back, but then he took a step back, you

707
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But now he's back to where

708
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of freak because he ain't got

709
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Kyrie there, and now he's you know, It's it's interesting

710
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: to me because I was a role player. I knew

711
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: my role. It was never an issue going places and playing.

712
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: But obviously, like when I got to play with someone

713
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: like Kobe or you go to the Warriors, or you know,

714
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: playing with Chris and Blake, you kind of have to

715
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: find your rhythm and find your role. So I think

716
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: early on all these teams, like these the players you mentioned,

717
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: it's kind of still a filing out process, you know

718
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, because you know what I mean. As

719
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: a team, how important chemistry is, and it takes time

720
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: to build chemistry. And when you're adding such a dynamic

721
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: player such as Kyrie and then you know Jared Allen

722
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: and now you're sharing minutes with DeAndre Jordan's you know

723
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: what I mean when you know. So, it's just it's

724
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: a process that takes time, and I think they'll figure out.

725
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: But that the tough part is is once you figured

726
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: out this year, you gotta figure out again next because

727
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: that's a whole different thing, right, you know. But I

728
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: think they definitely have it if chemistry and people stay healthy.

729
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, by the time Katie is ready to be KD,

730
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: they have a just as good a chance to get

731
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: out the East to anybody, any of else, to me

732
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: watching Kyrie up close and knowing what Katie is, if

733
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Katie comes back to what he is, they might be

734
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: one of the best teams. Ain't know, Mike too it

735
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: because they got a legit center so they can. Yeah,

736
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and that that young kid is nice. Jared

737
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Island is that his last name? Jared? It's nice. He

738
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: had a good game night last night. What you too?

739
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we would kind of like JR a

740
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, where he can like he's a wild card. Yeah,

741
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And they got their solid Man,

742
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: the NBA is you know, we're a handful of weeks

743
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: in the NBA and there's still you know, there's still

744
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: a few questions. You know, obviously the Warriors dynasty is over.

745
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Who do you like in the West? Man? I like

746
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: the Clippers. I think they got the best team just

747
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: because of from what they did last year. Um. I

748
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: like that. I like the fact that Kauai went there

749
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: kind of opens up the NBA a little bit, you

750
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Fair And so I think Dame

751
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: I want to see Dame win. Bro Well, I just

752
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: want to see him play deep into the playoffs and

753
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: I do too, and just hit some big shots. So

754
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: I think it would be fun, you know what I'm

755
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: saying that. Do you think about the Lakers? Obviously they're

756
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna be good. I think Danny Green will be huge

757
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: for them. I think Danny Green will be Jack had

758
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: a game one game we was watching that ship over

759
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: was the first game of the season. Well, yeah, it

760
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: was open the night, right and it was over at

761
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: Viola getting right watching the game, and he just didn't

762
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: he was off Danny Green for the night. But Danny

763
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: Green killed him. Just like Bro, He's a veteran he's

764
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: been and they lost Nyaks going exactly what he ain't

765
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: he ain't got. Yeah, but I'm saying Approven knocked down

766
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: shot having proving that, Yeah, I'll take Danny Green over

767
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. Yeah, I put a bed in

768
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: for a D to win the m VT. Well, to me,

769
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: if a D wins m VP, that makes me feel

770
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: like the Lakers have the best shot to advance in

771
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs because that means a D carried him over

772
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: to the Georgia season and Brown got to save Lebron

773
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: could be Lebron in spots. I'm a Laker fan and

774
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: just thinking mentality and a big picture. If you see

775
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: Superstar Lebron all season, they're probably gonna run out of gas.

776
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: But I feel like Lebron said all the right shot

777
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: on media Day right, like he was gonna play the

778
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: offense a D all that stuff. But the first couple

779
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: of weeks we've been seeing Superstar ar Brant, he first

780
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: approved that after forty ten and ten he's not playing hard.

781
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: You got a lot of it's easy for him. He

782
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: don't have to work. I mean, but all I'm saying,

783
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him, but hold on. So he

784
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: got to me at the beginning, he was going through

785
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: a D to see what we had. And then people

786
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: started talking about he lost the step and all this,

787
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: and so can you that's that media market in l A.

788
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, can you take a here's what it is,

789
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: and you take that step back and say, funk what

790
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: they're talking about. I'm still gonna mind. I have a

791
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: plan here. I'm gonna ride a DS motherfucking all season.

792
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: That's the only way, and then I'm gonna give you

793
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: my ship in the playoff. That's the only way to

794
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna win. And everybody like you let him forget in

795
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: the regulary, who gives a funk, But it's get it,

796
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: get that. If he shows up scoring forty ten and ten,

797
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna say ship. If he don't, if he if

798
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: he lets a D win the m v P, let's

799
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: the offense go through him. And then he shows up

800
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: in the playoffs Lebron Yeah, and nobody gonna do because

801
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna win. I just feel like he just that

802
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: talented and that much better than everybody in the league,

803
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: that he can average forty without even breaking the sweat dog.

804
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: But it's but he got to be able to do

805
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: the game, but not. I think he can. Man, he

806
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: make it look so easy. Maybe maybe I just think

807
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: he's better than what he is. You know, he can good,

808
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: He's that good. But this is the same grap I

809
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: used to watch him in high school and I'd be like,

810
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: just scoring fifty points and he's just a basketball player

811
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: the right way. But even in high school, I'd be like, yo,

812
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: take the game in Cleveland. Was in Cleveland. So I've

813
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: been watching he's a freshman, but he just plays basketball

814
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: the right way. He's always gonna pass to the right,

815
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he's he's gonna play

816
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: it the right way. So maybe that's just me wishing

817
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I was Lebron. I had Lebron, everybody just go out

818
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: there average, you know what I mean. I haveage fifteen

819
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: by myself. I had Lebron, I would average fifty. But

820
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you'd be out there burning tooif

821
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: loaded loaded. Now, I think he gotta let a d

822
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: win m v P turn into Lebron in the playoffs

823
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: and they win, because he's gonna need that, because that's

824
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the best. What do you think about Houston? I don't know.

825
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: Yet they don't play no defense. I like the fact

826
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: that the coach don't even came spell defense. Who's their coach?

827
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: Dann Phony get more jobs than anybody, anybody, that's every

828
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: sport though they got one guy like that. You got

829
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: one guy like that, Like he ain't want nothing but

830
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: keep getting jobs, keeping coaches like that too, Baseball to

831
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: keep getting jobs. I like the fact that they closed

832
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Westbrook and Harden. I think that's going to help if

833
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: they have a chance to make it work. It's because

834
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: of that, yes, because everybody the first game, everybody was

835
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: making a big deal them arguing on the court, and

836
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's that's homeboy, perfect, it's home

837
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: boys because it's game one and they're already in it.

838
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Like that's like they are they gonna They're gonna figure

839
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: it out and they're gonna figure this out. But they

840
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: just gotta figure out to play defense. The way you

841
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: play is different when you're playing with your own boy.

842
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: You know, you care more, you give more, you know,

843
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: and you can always be like, yo, what the fund

844
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: is you doing? Yeah? You know what really is? Yeah?

845
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: And ain't taking his hate either, Yeah. He like in

846
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: the East Man, I like Boston. I like Boston. I like, uh,

847
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Tatum is tough, trying to tell people to me, he

848
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: and I like him. I like him, but I like

849
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: Tatum um u. That's my I like Boston a lot,

850
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: but I still like the Seven Sex or two and Bi.

851
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: But obviously they ain't got nothing. Boston ain't got nothing

852
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: this inside and paint. Yeah, but they're gonna do there.

853
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: They did with Philly when they did with Philly A

854
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: little too big boys, Philly, I mean to me is

855
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: it's it's Philly's East. I like Milwauke. You can never

856
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: overlook Milwaukee. But I just Philly's tough. Yeah, you know,

857
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: Philly's real bigger than Philly. Though they got they got

858
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: the two Lopez brothers now and they got You can't

859
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: play both of them though, Why you can't the ones

860
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: the shoot you can't play. Yeah, but you can't play

861
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: both of the same man. They're so slow and the

862
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: pig Come on, man, I've been on the Lopez twins since,

863
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: like their brother played a You with me, so they

864
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: used to be twins. A little au ship like underneath

865
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: the bleachers, always getting into some ship, like stealing purses,

866
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: like doing uneath the bleachers, and all of a sudden

867
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: one day, these motherfuckers are seven feet tall, bigger than me.

868
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Going to Standford. I'm like, yo, those are little homes.

869
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: He used to be underneath the stands, stealing persons from Like, no,

870
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: they're from our team was based on the spreads. No,

871
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure where, uh where they were from from.

872
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: They're different from Callie. Good dudes, real good dudes. Happy

873
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: the way their career ended. Let's let's jump back into baseball.

874
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it always seems like and I

875
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: don't think it happened to you because you're still doing

876
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: so much stuff. You're gonna be doing so much stuff.

877
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: But stars in baseball kind of get lost in the

878
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: mixed post post post career because they're not as vigilant

879
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: on social media. Like, what do your thought about that? No,

880
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's just the nature of baseball players. I

881
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: think the nature of baseball in general is to kind

882
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: of be private. You know what I'm saying. You have

883
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: to be humble. The game is hard to play, you

884
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If you succeed three out of

885
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: ten times out of hit, or you're a Hall of Famer,

886
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm saying, So it's hard to play.

887
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: So in your nature, I think as a baseball player

888
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: is to be humble and kind of reserve. So yeah,

889
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: it's no big social media presidents, you know what I'm saying. Like,

890
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't even have Twitter on my phone,

891
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um, yeah, I mean

892
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: I just think that's just kind of the nature of

893
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: the guys. And a lot of the guys don't even

894
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: want to be They don't care about it, they don't

895
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: even want to be on TV or you know, any

896
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: of that stuff. So it's kind of the guys that

897
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: you see in baseball that that do it are the

898
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: guys that want to How do you do you feel

899
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: that them being not as present, uh on the social

900
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: platforms hurts baseball? Yeah, I think it definitely hurts the sport.

901
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: And I think, um, I mean, you know, I mean,

902
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a big problem. Obviously, a lot of

903
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: kids are not playing. We can't get you know, a

904
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: lot of viewership. Um, you know, it's even hard for me.

905
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to watch the ship, you know,

906
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: if I don't have anybody in it. You know, it

907
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: was just saying talking about Mike Trout, you know, him

908
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: being out in public. You know, he would much rather

909
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: not recognized, not recognize him, you know what I'm saying,

910
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: to not be noticed, And he's the biggest player in

911
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: the game, you know what I'm saying, Aaron Judge, you're

912
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: gonna notice in six pounds even still he still don't

913
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's still you know, I don't want to be,

914
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: you know, out there like that. So I just think

915
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, just just the nature of baseball makes

916
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: it hard for us to be on social media every

917
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: day with you know, being flash hard. You know what

918
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You know, you're gonna fail a lot. What

919
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: are your thoughts about people like Mike Trout and and

920
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: some of these other players signing these long term deals

921
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: and then like a situation like with Bryce Harper where

922
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: he decides not to take the money and go somewhere

923
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: else and then you know, his his former team. Yeah. No,

924
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's good. The baseball teams are

925
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: making so much money, Like it's crazy, Uh, the amount

926
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: of money that's in the game and the amount of

927
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: money that's out there for these for guys to make

928
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I think it's dope. I think I think, you know,

929
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: I would want it. Might try to make fifty million

930
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: a year. I want Mookie Best to make sixty million.

931
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, Uh, these guys deserve

932
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: it to me, you know what I'm saying. So I

933
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: think it's great that these guys are signing these huge deals.

934
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: And I think it's good that these guys are signing

935
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: nineteen year deals with one team. You'll you'll get back

936
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: to seeing franchise players. You'll get back to seeing the

937
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Derrek Jeter play with one friend, you know what I'm saying,

938
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: the you know that one guy that played with that

939
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: one franchise at their whole because that's lost in sports now,

940
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: that's lost. But then on the flip side, it's differently

941
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: for being a purist and fear from back in the day,

942
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: like that's what we like. But then at the same time,

943
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: the excitement of moving parts now with superstars is what

944
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: makes the NBA are starting to rise so much. That's true,

945
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 1: you know. So it's it kind of goes both ways.

946
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I just thought it was crazy that, you know,

947
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: Washington loses Bryce Harper the playing wild card and they

948
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: win a championship man. Sometimes when you lose that one

949
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: super that one superstar was, it's all like most of

950
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: the time, it's all about them. It kind of like

951
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: it's just them and then as y'all. So then when

952
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: he left, it didn't matter. It was just us, you

953
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So now it's just as anyway.

954
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Huh So it just kind of makes it better a

955
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: little bit. When it's that that one guy is that big,

956
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: you can rally around just your group, you know what

957
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think that's kind of what they did.

958
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: And I was able to free up some money not

959
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: giving million. I saw how many people they signed with

960
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: the money they were gonna give him. Yeah, and I

961
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: mean not for nothing. Bryce Harper had. You know, he's

962
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: won the m v P, but ever since then, he

963
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: hasn't really been what people expecting to be. Mike Trout

964
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: is what Bryce Harper gets the attention that Mike Trout

965
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: she did, and Mike trust the player, you know what

966
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So effective coming from someone that you know,

967
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: it's in that space. Yeah, I mean, you know, it

968
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is, and it was

969
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: it was cool to see them, dude, you know, I'm

970
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: friends with Scherzer, so it was good to see him,

971
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of come back and win game seven. Um,

972
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: now that was that was that was fun to see

973
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: and to see you know, Michael Taylor, Juan Soto, all

974
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: the young dudes, m Howie, Kendrick he Man, and there's

975
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: so many, so few African Americans playing the games. You

976
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: can see him kind of doing things. I mean, it's uh,

977
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: he was huge for them, being someone that played multiple sport.

978
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: I kind of saw you brought your swag to baseball,

979
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: which you hat the way you wore your hat eventually

980
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: coming out and motherfucking playing in Jordan's you know, tell me,

981
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: tell me what you think about you know what you

982
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: brought to the game. I just tried to bring. I

983
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: guess the crest for Lao. You know what I'm saying,

984
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: like myself, um, just my authentic self whatever to the game.

985
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean it was hard. A lot of people hated

986
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: me at the first I'm saying with my hat and

987
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, baseball's kind of a conservative game. You know,

988
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: was grabbing my hand, you know what I'm saying, I

989
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: get the third out, I get the ball in my hand,

990
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: like they didn't like that ship. There was a lot

991
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: of ship that people didn't like about me when I

992
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: first came up. So, um, I had to play good.

993
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: I had to pitch, I had to I had to

994
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: perform to be able to do what I wanted to bring.

995
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know it ended

996
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: up working out. What do you mean get your hand?

997
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? So like if if

998
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I get the third out, they throw it to the

999
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: third baseman, like I was just grabbing with my hands,

1000
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: just kind of a thing I started doing in high school.

1001
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: And we had an old third basically named Travis Freeman.

1002
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: He was old school. Um, he didn't like that ship.

1003
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: He hated it. So the whole first half of the

1004
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: season he would throw that ship hard, like like most

1005
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: of the guys like when I was in my leagues,

1006
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, grab it. He thought that ship hard. I'm

1007
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: just grabbing my hand, fuck it and get right back

1008
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: in the ma what I'm saying. So, like, I had

1009
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: one good game against Detroit and halfway through the game

1010
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: he stopped doing that ship and and it just kind

1011
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: of kind of left me alone. It's that too many

1012
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: African American is in baseball. Why do you think that

1013
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: is it's hard. It's it's it's uh one of those

1014
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: sports where it's expensive to play, um till at an

1015
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: early age with the travel ball, it's expensive to play.

1016
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: You know, you need gear. Um I think, um in

1017
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: high school, you know, I mean in college, you can't

1018
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: get a full scholarship to play baseball. Really, so the

1019
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: most you can, you know that the most they give

1020
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: guys is you know, so us growing up, you know,

1021
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: we played football and baseball. So you played football and baseball,

1022
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: and you got a scholarship to go to U c.

1023
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: L A To play football and cow to play baseball,

1024
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: and it's fifty baseball, Like you gotta take the football.

1025
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: It's not even a you know what I'm say, it's

1026
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: not even the option coming from where we came from.

1027
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 1: So that eliminates us, like you know what I'm saying,

1028
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: like eliminates us from college baseball right there. Um, so

1029
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge problem. I think. Um, you know,

1030
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: I think baseball is one of those sports where you know,

1031
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: like my dad was taking me out, you know what

1032
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying every day, and I think, you know, the

1033
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: last you know, this last generation. I guess I feel

1034
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: like a lot of the dad has been incarcerated. You

1035
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. In baseball is one in the

1036
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: sports where your dad's gotta teach you that sport. And

1037
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: it's been hard in the hood to have fathers around

1038
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: old enough to like baseball and to teach their kids that,

1039
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's a lot of

1040
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: different contributing factors, but it's a big gas problem in

1041
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: the game. I think basketball stone Some of that too,

1042
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: is the hype of basketball. The hype of basketball, like

1043
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: you said, the moving parts of superstars moving everybody is

1044
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: they're very visible, you know what I'm saying. We're buying

1045
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: Kyrie shoes, We're buying Jordan's, We're buying Kobe's and Katie's.

1046
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: Um it's way more appealing and and basketball players are

1047
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: more like us, you know what I'm saying. I mean,

1048
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: we can see ourselves out there on that we can

1049
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: see ourselves and we don't really see ourselves. But when

1050
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I was growing up, you saw yourself Ricky Henderson moment,

1051
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that was me. I

1052
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: saw myself out there. Kids in the hood can't see

1053
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: themselves on the baseball field. No more. You know what

1054
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying, too bad because I loved it, Because I

1055
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: mean I loved I played it through high school. I

1056
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: still play traveling softball. Like I really loved baseball, and

1057
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: I put the twins. I think I put the twins

1058
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: in the two really because they excelled in football and basketball,

1059
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: and then they could hit baseball, but no one else

1060
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: could hit so the game was too slow. So then

1061
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: that defense sucks and I'm like there four or five

1062
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: and they cry and we have to go to practice

1063
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: and don't want them just like I'm not gonna make

1064
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: my kids do anything when it comes to sports. So

1065
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of had to pull away, and

1066
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: I was hurt, But I got a eleven month old.

1067
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna play baseball. Ashton is gonna play baseball, and

1068
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: by the time he's only going to get one of

1069
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: these five hundred million dollar contracts. Tell me about your

1070
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: Jordan collections. I heard it's insane. Yeah, I got a

1071
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: lot of James. But I've been need to go shopping

1072
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: in this close now I don't even I'm not even

1073
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: I like like the kickids, like through I need some

1074
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: air maxim Runners. And now I've been with I signed

1075
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: with Jordan's and oh seven, So I mean you know

1076
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: that's the same year I signed them boxes seven. When

1077
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: did your boxes stop coming? Jack said stop my box

1078
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: to stop coming in fourteen? So if m J sees

1079
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: this right now, what would you say to MJ about

1080
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: your boxes? MJ? I remember him taking back and gave

1081
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: me my deal right on the sideline when I signed

1082
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: with the Bob Cats, and unfortunately somebody was working that

1083
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: was not working for your company now took my deal.

1084
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: Ain't number of the conversations. I need the boxes, bad man.

1085
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: And if you don't get this message, gonna get it.

1086
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: If you do get this, man, you're watching this police

1087
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: keeps into my back. I just need your boxes even

1088
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: don't understand you understanding, bro, I never got the boxes

1089
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: like y'all got. But but but growing up not being

1090
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: able to force ship to just having boxes of Jordans

1091
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: delivered of all shows like Live It to your house.

1092
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: I had my first pair of Jordans. I was seventeen

1093
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: years old, you know what I'm saying. Like I was

1094
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: senior in high school. You know, my mom busted her ass,

1095
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: like went to them all like showed up at my game.

1096
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: We played hoping for She showed up at the game

1097
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: with Jordans and like I cried, you know what I'm saying,

1098
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Like I'll never get that. So I wore him to school,

1099
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: played in the game with him, him to the party.

1100
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: So dope, okay, in the same path on everything, I

1101
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: got something to give away to people. Think you know,

1102
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: it's like it was. It was a blessing somebody. I

1103
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: need the boxes back, man, I need them that But

1104
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: anyway back back to your collection, Yeah, no, I mean

1105
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I got a lot. It's crazy. I give a lot

1106
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: of them away. Though. I got three cousins that wear

1107
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: fifteens perfect and uh in Valleo, so they get all

1108
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: the boxes. I know they stayed fresh. Yeah. But one

1109
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: of my little cousins though he lived out here for

1110
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: like five years, the lot, he just moved back so

1111
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: he would get the boxes. I had to get the

1112
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: jordan A to see like what shoes is though, because

1113
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: you know my old as, I'm like, you just take them.

1114
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This Nick was taking all

1115
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: the giving you the team keeping there like oh this

1116
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: is this is I'm like, yeah, I gotta be I

1117
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: gotta beat you to the mill box to get it's crazy.

1118
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: You better. Uh, it's fun though, It's it's cool to

1119
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: be a part of it. It's fun to be a

1120
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: part of brand. Yeah, that's dope. So being from the

1121
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: West Coast and we definitely have a certain type of

1122
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: music and swagging and flare. And then you're kind of

1123
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: a New Yorker now you know you've been out here

1124
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: for ten plus years? Yeah years, you know, so what

1125
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: is what's your media game like? Right now? Man? Right now?

1126
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: I was just driving in right now, I was listening

1127
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: to the Blueprint to um New Yorker due to you. Yeah,

1128
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but I still got like, you know, I

1129
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: still got my old Valeo forever, high feet, always veteran

1130
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: now so that I always be like, that's always That's

1131
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: just a part of me, you know what I'm saying. Um,

1132
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: And then I'm a big I've always been a big

1133
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Hole fan. But right now like new music, the baby,

1134
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: um with the baby. Um. We just who's your top

1135
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: five rappers all time? Mac Dre is number one for

1136
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: me for sure, Pop Snoop, Hole and Biggie. It's just

1137
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: my top five. It's your top five, Yeah, Scarface, Park,

1138
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: jay Z, Biggie, bumby. He went on something craziest fun

1139
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: big nice. Scar Face DM me the other day asking

1140
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: when we gonna play golf? That ship blew my fucking man,

1141
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: brother mob right now, yeah, families said, he said, Matt,

1142
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out there and play golf. I said,

1143
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: who the fund is this? And he's running for something? Yeah,

1144
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: congressmen right now, Congressman, that's dope, shout out and Scarface.

1145
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: My top five would be part Snoop, j Biggie Nipsey.

1146
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it was yeah, because I

1147
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: get stuck. Jack knows I'd be getting stuck on ships

1148
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: ever since he knew me. Was all pop. And then

1149
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: my brother put me on Nip in like two thousand nine,

1150
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, and it was little cousin put me

1151
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: nip with Matt. But I didn't listen to jay Z

1152
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: until I got to the minor ladies to college because

1153
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: we didn't like we wasn't really bumping ja on the

1154
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: West Coast. We had like only listen to Max Drake,

1155
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like best from my neighborhood

1156
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: and listening as you listen to. So I didn't listen

1157
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: to to to jay Z until I had a roommate

1158
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues that was a big jay Z

1159
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: fan and that's all he played one summer, So then

1160
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: I kind of got on it, like nine eight, same thing.

1161
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: I didn't start listening to jay Z until I was

1162
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: at U c l A with teammates who were from

1163
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: other places, you know what I mean. Like it wasn't

1164
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: we listened to West Coast music, you know what I means.

1165
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: So you know what's crazy people always make Like back then,

1166
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: people always made fun of the forty. Now they come on,

1167
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: they get his respect now that not not your but

1168
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: like like I we should listening to the fort you

1169
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That was like it did back

1170
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: in the day. Now it's like they gotta respect him

1171
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: for him. The other day at the name drop moment

1172
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: at Gabby Union's birthday party. Yeah, seeing them short and

1173
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: her little cousin sweety. But forty is a fucking legend, legend,

1174
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: big Tine Warrior fan hero. He rocked with us the

1175
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: whole He's been rocking with the words he's not with

1176
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: forty two. In Texas, we had a DJ and DJ

1177
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: screw recipe and he used to slow the music down,

1178
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: but Cibo uh spice one all that, and that's what

1179
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: we learned about jay Z too, because he's just music

1180
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: from everywhere. Yeah, so we have m c a all that.

1181
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: He used to screw all that music. Yeah. We were

1182
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: just on the West Coast ship like me and I

1183
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: was in high school. I was listening. The only outside

1184
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: person I was really listening to was Masterpeek, Masterpeek. The

1185
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: only maleside person I was listening to was Biggie. Always

1186
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: gravit my fat as, always gravitating towards rapper. Yeah, so

1187
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: I like heavy d Biggie, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, mcmaul, Yeah, yeah,

1188
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: of course I was like Cebo brother lynch All the

1189
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: Bay Area ship, Snoop spice Mall had a classic album,

1190
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: his first album, Selly Sell Sell Sell. You need to

1191
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: get right, They get right, they get right. Yeah. What's up?

1192
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: What's your favorite restaurant out here? Favorite Carbone Carbone? Hit

1193
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: that money to go straight back to our little spot,

1194
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: real quick and congregated. Yeah, I think we should. Any

1195
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: hobbies or anything you're looking forward to getting into now

1196
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: in any of the retired life. I want to get

1197
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: better at golfing, Yeah, my daughters held up. Let's do it.

1198
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm playing. I'm a big I love fishing, Okay, I

1199
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: go fishing all over all over the place. I love fishing.

1200
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: Um drive, that's gonna drive yall, Candy watch you'll play

1201
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: smoke with y'all, wife, I don't want to play. Shout

1202
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: out a whiz pack. They got the dopest you see that,

1203
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: you get cold. Shout out, that's the best golf back

1204
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, shout out Mike Evans and bro

1205
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: send me's got a speaker on it. Yeah, DJ for y'all, Yeah, DJ, whatever,

1206
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: But I'm not paying. What kind of I got? I

1207
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: got plus one plus plus one and a half. So

1208
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: I got oh that's my uh from my Adidas that

1209
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: used to be titlists. I got those. But I need

1210
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: to actually need to get refitted. I've just seen Cobra

1211
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: just came out with a new said, I think I'm

1212
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: gonna try to get on that. But how long are

1213
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: you gonna be down with your show? I think until

1214
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: having on and I think, what are they doing here?

1215
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: What are they doing to you? I think they're gonna

1216
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: repair the whole thing, uh, just so I can be

1217
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: able to throw because you know, I got the Boys

1218
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 1: and the night and your own be able to throw BP,

1219
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: be able to throw BP to the boys at Yankee

1220
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: Stadium if I had to, you know what I'm saying. Um,

1221
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: so they got to repair at all bad practice. Yeah,

1222
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: and then next time, you never the celebrity game, you

1223
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: gotta have me and Jack comet. I'm gonna do it.

1224
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: I want to do it in the summertime next year.

1225
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: Like on the weekend, I pulled up and just watched.

1226
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: I know that happened to be in Townpa's the mother

1227
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: Ship and they said CC. I was like, damn, let's

1228
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: go back next year. Even if y'all like do the

1229
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: pot from there. I know what I'm saying, Like, I

1230
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: want to do a live pot. I want to play

1231
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: in pot. Yeah. Tell me about your foundation and with

1232
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: what you and your wife do and the kind of

1233
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: stuff you got to do in the community. Yes, the

1234
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: picture of me and Nember started two thousand and eight. Um,

1235
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: we just try to help kids in the hood. Um

1236
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: through sports and education. Uh. I grew up in a

1237
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: Boys and Girls club and I try to, like, you know,

1238
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: help those type type of tools. Partner up with the

1239
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: boys and Girls club, here. We do feel renovations. I'm

1240
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: actually doing two now. I'm doing one in Vallet, I'm

1241
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: doing and I'm doing one in the Bronx. Right now,

1242
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: what do you guys do? Redo the whole part? Um,

1243
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: come in and make it like a big league feel,

1244
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, like you just want to play on something

1245
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: nice man like, like the wolfball, like the pro. So

1246
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: we do that on both coats. We've been doing that.

1247
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: We do backpack giveaways here and in vallel um and

1248
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: you d a marathon to right? My wife. My wife

1249
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: has a running team. She has a bunch of people

1250
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: that runs a marathon. I'm not never running. That's not

1251
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: your game, huh. I can't run from to the door.

1252
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: Him and his wife a great parents because my daughter

1253
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: used to living and his daughters and my daughter were

1254
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: real close, you know when they've lived there. So yeah,

1255
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: I have some great prank and your daughters, sweet and

1256
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: sweet girl, tell me, tell me how amazing fatherhood is

1257
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: for you. It's been fun, man, it's been Uh, it's

1258
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: been good. You know. I lost my dad in two thirteen.

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Speaker 1: We was real close. I was twenty three years old

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Speaker 1: the same year my son was born. Um, so it's

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Speaker 1: been fun to kind of like grow up and kind

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Speaker 1: of turned into him. I see myself a lot of

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Speaker 1: this ship. I say to my son, I'd be like, damn,

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Speaker 1: my dad, you know what I'm saying. So it's fun

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Speaker 1: to be a dad man. It's it's it takes. It

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Speaker 1: makes sports like easy, you know what I'm saying. Like

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Speaker 1: I come home after a game. They don't care if

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Speaker 1: I threw a no hitter or gave up seven runs,

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Speaker 1: like dad's home, time to play, you know, funk everything else.

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Speaker 1: So that kind of like, because I'm super intense when

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Speaker 1: it comes to like sports, so that kind of took

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Speaker 1: it kind of took took my edge off a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So it helped me out a lot. And they they

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Speaker 1: I've been to to his daughter's birthday party before they

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Speaker 1: go all out on are they parties? Are I just

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Speaker 1: you know, she's super fessive. I just live there. I

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Speaker 1: don't be knowing ship. We had a whole uh, we

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Speaker 1: had a whole ready uh renewal last year and that,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know ship. I was walking in like

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Speaker 1: this ship is amazing. I was just as amazing to

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Speaker 1: guests like to show up. Man, it's fun. It's all right,

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. Have you have your wife, have you life?

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Speaker 1: All right? Man, that's a wrap, my man. Ccuh man.

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Speaker 1: We came out to your city. Man. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for working with us. I appreciate you always.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. New York has been a blast. All the

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Speaker 1: smoke episode for finding on Showtime, Basketball, YouTube channel and

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Speaker 1: all platforms streaming pot How many of them? All of

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Speaker 1: them cool? It's you're heavyweight champion, you die climb. I

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Speaker 1: was here was a man amongst men. He's a leg breaker.

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Speaker 1: For the moment, Sunny Listings America's worst nightmare. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: fight Funny Listen, I want that big other. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest sporting events of this U Fix

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Speaker 1: Fix Fix. Nobody wanted to be associated with no respectable person.

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Speaker 1: He was always involved in a criminal culture, whether by

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Speaker 1: choice and assessing. There were a lot of people who

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Speaker 1: hadn't invested interest in shutting Sunny up. Sunny Listens. Face

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Speaker 1: was sealed in the womb. So many people wanted sunny

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Speaker 1: day questions. Who got to him first? All all go,

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Speaker 1: all go, all right,