1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. Yeah, we're right there with you here 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: on this Football Friday. Disappointment, frustration, probably some anger as well. 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: On today's show. It's hard to win in the NFL 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: when you beat yourself, and that's exactly what happened last 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: night the Cardinals. Also, that was not the offense we 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: had seen in previous weeks. What happened. It's Cardinals Cover two, 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Episode three fifty five, and it starts now. Welcome to 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, visit asy Cardinals 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: dot com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: near sight of fitz pot He's into the nside for 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolu and Mike Jareckie wants some 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: good news, MJ. I think we all could use some 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: good news here on this football Friday. Definitely all right, 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: here's some good news, bird Gang. According to NFL Networks 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, Kyler Murray suffered a sprained ac joint. Last night, 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: but quote, he should be fine end quote for his 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: next start. The good news Cardinals don't play again for 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: another ten days and that will be a road trip 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: at New England. Of course, Kingsbury was asked about the 22 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: injury earlier today and he only added this much quote, 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm not sure of the extent of it. That's about 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: all I know. End quote, And really, MJ, that's about 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: all he is willing to share at this point. But 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: I think, knock on wood, we're all hopeful and based 27 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: off of Ian Rappaport relieved that Murray will not miss 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: any time at all. Yeah, and clearly, I mean there's 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: got to be some soreness today. Now I believe the 30 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: team's going to be off for the weekend. He'll get 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: some rest there, and as you pointed out, the next 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: game is ten days away where they traveled to New 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: England to pay the Patriots, so that gives him a 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: little time framing. I guess we'll wait until next Wednesday 35 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: when the official injury report. But you know, he was 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: able to finish the game, where last year he wasn't 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: able to finish the game, and Brett Hunley came in there, 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: so that is great news, and you know, I was 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: hoping to wake up to something where it was encouraging, 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: because you know, he said he was fine last night. 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I think you got to wake up 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: this morning. And I'm sure there's a little sore news. 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: It's just me speculating, but that is really good news 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: because they knee Kyler Murray if they're going to make 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a run here in the second half. There was a 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: follow up question to Kingsbury about how the shoulder might 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: have affected Murray's performance, and the only thing Kingsbury would 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: elaborate on that quote, Murray competed well throughout the game. 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: You could tell he was hurt a bit, and that 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: was obvious from watching it on television. And then I 51 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: went back and watched the play because everyone kept pointing 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: to Carlos Dunlap and I was like, no, it was LJ. 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Collyer who had the sack. Well, Dunlap was in on 54 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: the play as well. Callyer got credit for the sack, 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: but it was Dunlap landing on top of Murray that 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: crunched the shoulder into the ground. And that's why you 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: now have this reported ac joint issue. But I think 58 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: part of that also is just the natural bumps and 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: bruises that players feel the day after a game. Well 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: and basically they got him from behind and they landed 61 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: on his body. So he normally doesn't you know, he's 62 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: able to see that stuff in the open field. He can. 63 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: He put a move on Jamal Adams last night, but 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: when they're gets you from behind, there's nothing really you 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: can do there. You know they're getting you down, then 66 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna obviously, you know, put some pressure on you 67 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: just from how big they are in the forest going 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: to bring you know, speaking of that, and we'll get 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: into some of the details, but I just thought that 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Ken Norton Junior from week seven to last night, and 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: we know they had three players Adams. I don't think 72 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: Harrison Snacks really made a difference, but Carlo Stunlap including 73 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: that sack that obviously secured the deal for the Seahawks. 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: But that was a much better team, and you know, 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I thought they were a desperate team, and you know, 76 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: you and I talked about it. I mean, Russell Wilson's 77 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: never lost three in a row in his career, and 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: he knew he was going to come out. You know, 79 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: obviously he wants to be in that MVP race. You know, 80 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: it's a body of work. He had probably the best 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: month of September and carried over to a little bit 82 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: of October. But they knew what was at stake and 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: they're going to try to russell hold that division. I 84 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: still think it's a three team race. As the first 85 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: division loss for the Cardinals, I think it's going to 86 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: come down to the Seahawks, Cardinals, and Rams. And the 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: Rams got a big game con up a Monday night. 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: Let's go Bucks. Amen to that. I understand when people say, oh, 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: you know what, they wanted it more or they competed harder, 90 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: and it's always for me, it's it's very subjective and 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: how can you tell unless you're down on the field. 92 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: But there is that sense of urgency that you can 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: sense that teams just appear to look like they want 94 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: it more. And there was a lot on the line 95 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: for both teams. But I think the Seahawks certainly had 96 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: more to lose. But that Seattle team that we saw 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: last night was not the same team that we had 98 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 1: seen in the last four games in which they lost 99 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: two in a row and three four. And I don't 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: know if that was you know, being back at home, 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson not doing nearly as much or thinking he 102 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: had to do as nearly as much, the return of 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide or though what you pointed out late last week, 104 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: the addition of Adams, Dunlap and Harrison who they all 105 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: missed that first meeting back in week seven. Yeah, and 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, Bobby Wagner said during the week, we watched 107 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot of film and we think we got a 108 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: game platform and again I thought it worked. What was 109 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: surprising and just to kind of you know, go back 110 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: and some of the keys where their safeties played, well, 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: we knew they were down two corners and I just thought, 112 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals did come out and try to 113 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: go four wide. They didn't come out with you know, 114 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: eleven and twelve personnel, whether it was Arnold or Max 115 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: Williams or both. We did see both running backs in 116 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: the game, but it was just they just had a 117 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: different game plan and you know, they see slow starts. 118 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: You're playing catch up. Only twenty three yards in the 119 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: first quarter. Now granted they were only down seven nothing, 120 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: a couple three and outs, and to me, they got 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: to get in sync to get some rhythm, and I 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: think that would have allowed the Seahawks maybe to play 123 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more zone versus bringing pressure. So we 124 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: all know it's about matchups. But I was disappointing. And 125 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, even though going into a game, the road 126 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: teams have won more than the home teams, you know, 127 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: you're traveling, and yeah, there was no home field advantage, 128 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: but we know, you know, it's a wash this year. 129 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: It's you got to create your own energy. And you know, 130 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I was just I'm disappointed. But listen, I'll get the 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks all the credit in the world. Cardinal fans don't 132 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: want to hear, and I get it. You look at 133 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: your team, but they also get paid on the other side, 134 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and you know, they looked at their schedule and they think, 135 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: if we can get this game, and you were sitting 136 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: pretty because you know, the Cardinals have feasted up on 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: the NFC East and still got a couple more games 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: besides the Washington football team and the Cowboys. But now 139 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna enter that and so it's I 140 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: think they're gonna go on a role here. Um, you know, 141 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to run away with 142 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: the division. I think they're all going to beat each 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: other up, but they have a very favorable schedule down 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: the stretch. Yeah, these next four games for the Seahawks, 145 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: they very well could be eleven and three at the 146 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: end of this four game run if they continue to 147 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: play like they did last night. What disappointed me the 148 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: most about Thursday Night Football and again, the Cardinals lose 149 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty one. We say it all the time 150 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: on paper, and that's what we base our analysis and 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: looking ahead to games, the preview the days before Sundays 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: or in this case, Thursday, and you look to where 153 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals might have an advantage, the number one offense, 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: the number one rushing offense in terms of yards per game, 155 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: and then just the dynamics of Kyler Murray in this 156 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: passing game when you have a defense that is missing, 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: as you said, it's top two cornerbacks. Yet I didn't 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 1: see a lot of either separation from DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald, 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Andy Isabella, you name it. And then just 160 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: not all that time in the pocket from the offensive 161 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: line allowing Murray to go through his progressions. So on paper, 162 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had a decided advantage in a passing game 163 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: that did not live up to what we thought should 164 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: have been the advantage, and that's surprising to me. Now 165 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: this is the first time and we've gave a lot 166 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: of love to the offensivil line, and rightfully so, just 167 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: based on what they've done. And I'm sure Sean Coogler 168 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: is going to go back to the drawing board because 169 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, four false start penalties there was no crowd there. 170 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Of the ten penalties Craig, eight were on the offense, 171 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and then you had the forty six yard passinger Ferres 172 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and Patrick Peterson and he had Drey Kirkpatrick. I think 173 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: I think another one was was declined, but eight of 174 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: those penalties were on offense. And you know how we 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: feel about pre snap and post snaps, so pre snap 176 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: would be false starts, delay games, and post snap would 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: be taunting, you know, And that was what Kirkpatrick got 178 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: caught with. And you know, I thought, you know, usually 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: a second guy in, but it looks like he instigated it. 180 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: And then some of those throws you were talking about 181 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 1: separation and I wasn't going to ask Cliff, but I 182 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: haven't really watched the film. I did watch some of 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: the shortcut highlights, but that throw Isabella. People are wondering, 184 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: why would you throw Isabella? And why are you throwing 185 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: down the field when you're trying to get you know, 186 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: on the postgame show, I thought that the three defensive 187 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: backs for two defensive backs got the Larry earlier. Larry 188 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: was looking for the call. I think they all do. 189 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like he gets a lot of calls. I mean, 190 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: he did get a holding call. I guess I had 191 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: no problem with the Isabella play. I just wonder because 192 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: of Kyler's shoulder, and Kingsbury said it did affect him. 193 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that ball kind of got there a little bit 194 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: sooner where he put it in a good spot. But 195 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, clearly they are trying to take some shots 196 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: down the field. So you can't say, well, based on 197 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: their safeties and corners, you know, the top two corners, 198 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: they did take a couple shots. Now, Cardinals only had 199 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: two plays over twenty yards. They had one at nineteen. 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: And it was interesting. Kingsbury talked about Chase Emmons in 201 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: the passing game, and we know that one two punch. 202 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of perplexed and maybe that's the right 203 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: that's the way I'm going to describe it. But We 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: didn't see Chase Emmons a lot in the first quarter, 205 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: and that surprised me because I thought Drake was on 206 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: a pitch count against the Bills and they got that 207 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: one two punch and then we know Murray's kind of 208 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the X factor, so that was a 209 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: little surprising. But we know how good chases in the 210 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: passing game. But clearly you got enough guys that throw 211 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: of the football too. Drake eleven carries, Edmond's only two. 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: As far as catches, they each had four catches, Edmonds 213 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: thirty six yards and Drake thirty one yards. But you 214 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: bring up the running game, and this is where the run, 215 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: if you can establish it, sets up the pass. Yet 216 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: the first offensive possession, it was three straight incomplete and 217 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: you punt the football and then you didn't really see 218 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake get involved until that third possession of the 219 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: ball game. And I'll give Seahawks defensive line in their 220 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: front seven some credit, but this is the backbone of 221 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense, their ability to run the football. And 222 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I mean, we saw what we saw 223 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: last night, but diving deeper, I'm sure the coaches have 224 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: a better understanding why this team could not sustain a 225 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: running attack. They finished with the fewest rushing yards, rushing 226 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: yards per play, and rushing first downs all season long 227 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: MJ they only had eighteen rushing attempts this year. That's 228 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the fewest of all season, So a little bit odd. 229 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: And I understand what we just talked about. The advantage 230 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: was in the passing game, but you can't be one dimensional. 231 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: And I think maybe the Seahawks expected more throws. Well 232 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: they got it, and then that's where the focus of 233 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: their game plan to be able to attack Kyler Murrain 234 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket. Yeah, and this really didn't 235 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: come down the turnovers. I mean, if you're sitting here 236 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: today we're having a conversation there minus two or minus three, 237 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: you could understand that why they won. And the Seahawks 238 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: team was number one and scoring points, they only scored 239 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: twenty eight. I thought the Cardinals should have scored a 240 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: lot more based on with talking about matchups. So again, 241 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: you know we talked about, you know after the Miami game, 242 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: if you look at and you beat the Bills, you 243 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: get greedy. I think we all would have signed up 244 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: for a split just based on what we know. But 245 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: to me, you know, I just think Seattle was more 246 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: desperate last night. I think they feel like if they 247 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: win that game, they're going to go on a role 248 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: here just based on their schedule. Now it's the NFL, 249 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna probably have to go on the road. They're 250 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: unbeaten at home, and so again I knew I thought 251 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: Arizona felt comfortable what was at stake because you get 252 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: the seven wins and here you are and you're like, wow, 253 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: you ten games and six to go, and you've got 254 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: seven wins already. So I'm not I'm not discouraged with 255 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: the remaining of the schedule anything like that. You know, 256 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: it's the NFL and you've got to be ready to play. 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I think I think when they go 258 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: back and they should have put more points on the board. 259 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I mean, they had some opportunities and 260 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately some of those dry stalled. Yeah, the twenty one 261 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: points a season low tieing a season they also had 262 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty one at Carolina. Seahawks certainly played better and they 263 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: were the better team. Though it is frustrating from a 264 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: cardinal standpoint because of what the excitements from four days earlier, 265 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: the Hail Murray and then all of a sudden sole 266 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: possession of first place in the NFC West with the 267 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: Rams to play on Monday nights. But this offense, MJ. 268 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: That is what many people are scratching their heads on 269 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: here the day after. And this team is only going 270 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: to go as far as Kyler Murray, whether that is 271 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: with his running ability or throwing a bill. And I 272 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: think you can say that about a lot of teams 273 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: with respect to their quarterbacks, but if he's not on 274 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: in one aspect or another. The Dallas game, he didn't 275 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: throw the ball very well, but he was very effective 276 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: with his feats and gaining yards. He didn't have a 277 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: good game throwing the ball, and he really didn't have 278 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: a good game running the ball either. Season low fifteen 279 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: rushing yards on five carries, and that's where that Seahawks 280 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: defense really bottled him up, especially on those RPOs. Yeah, 281 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are now one eight and one over the 282 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: last two season. When Murray's held to under thirty yards rushing, 283 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: they're oh five and one under twenty yards. Now, if 284 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: you go back to the first game, the Seahawks had 285 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: zero quarterback hits. They had seven quarterback hits on Thursday night, footballs. 286 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: So that's the difference. And you know, he keep talking 287 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: about the Seahawks and we'll let everyone know they pretty 288 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: much control their own destiny, Eagles, Giants, Jets in the 289 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: Washington foot ball team over the next month, so they're 290 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: going to try to get a strangle hold in this division. 291 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: But I do think if the Cardinals can get back 292 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: on the winning streak, and I think the New England game, 293 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: we know it's gonna be Bill Belichick and you know, 294 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: Cliffs obviously going to look across the field and going 295 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: against the greatest coach in NFL history right up there, 296 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: but it's going to come down to the players, and 297 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Belichick is going to try to take away your strength 298 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: and then attack your weaknesses. So that game is probably 299 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit closer on the scoreboard. 300 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: We don't know what the weather is going to be. 301 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: The team's gonna have to travel to the East Coast, 302 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: which they won some games this year, so we'll get 303 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: into that, you know, as we get closer to the game. 304 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: But just look thinking how loud what the Cardinals are facing, 305 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: and they're going to play two NFC East teams, They're 306 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: still got to play the Eagles, and Giants, just like 307 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Seattle has to play. Even though you know the Cardinals 308 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: have played Washington and Dallas in Dallas obviously was dealing 309 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: some injuries. I still think there's a lot at stake. 310 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: I still think, you know, if his team could get 311 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: to nine or ten wins, you want to be playing 312 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: meaningful football, and you want to be playing your best 313 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: football in weeks six and sixteen and seventeen, and we 314 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: know there's going to be division games. But I still 315 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: think they're in the playoff race. Well, there's no question 316 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: about that. It's just now the margin of error is 317 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: certainly a lot smaller because of last night, and really 318 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: because of the loss earlier in the season to the 319 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Lions and the Dolphins to a certain extent as well. 320 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: You just can't give away games, and I think you 321 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: can make an argument the Cardinals did on those two 322 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: previous losses. Last night, they didn't give a game away. 323 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: They just didn't play very well. That's that you brought 324 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: up about Kyler Murray and his rushing yards. When he's 325 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: over thirty, that seems to be the benchmark. The teams 326 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: looks much better offensively. The other thing is the forty 327 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: number as far as past attempts are concerned, last night 328 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: was the third time this season he threw for more 329 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: than forty or dropped back more than forty times. He 330 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,719 Speaker 1: did so at San Francisco that was a win, and 331 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: then the first meeting against the Seahawks that was a 332 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: win as well. He dropped back forty eight times. Talking 333 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray, but that one over time and then 334 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: you're trying to come back and they were able to rally. 335 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, as much as we like to see Kyle 336 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: Murray stand in that pocket, he can't be throwing the 337 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: ball forty plus times. I just don't think that's a 338 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: recipe for success with this Cardinals offense. Yeah, and the 339 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals obviously we're healthy on the defensive line. When they 340 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: played him in Week seven and Russell Wilson turn the 341 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: ball over four times, three interceptions in a fumble, and 342 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: he did not turn the ball over, So that was 343 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the difference. Really. We went into the game, whoever the 344 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: better quarterback was probably odds are they're gonna win who 345 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: wins a turnover battle, which is a wash. And then 346 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: you look at which defense was going to step up, 347 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: and you got to say the Seahawks defense stepped up 348 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: bird Gang. Make sure you update the latest version of 349 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features in all 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: new redesign homes experience visit as Cardinals dot Com slash app. 351 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Four wars we continue here on this Football Friday Cardinals 352 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 353 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: The other number, as we are big on numbers here 354 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, and that is 355 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: the number ten. It was not a perfect ten for 356 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. In fact, the ten penalties for a season 357 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: high one hundred and fifteen yards. Third time this season 358 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the penalty number reached double digits, and second time with 359 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: one hundred plus penalty yards, first time being Week one 360 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: at San Francisco. They one hundred and two and you 361 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: talked about it earlier in the show. Eight of the 362 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: accepted penalties on offense four fault starts, three holding and 363 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: one intentional grounding holding. I can understand you don't want 364 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: your quarterback to get hits. You're trying to open up lanes, 365 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: but you can't have a holding call in the end zone. 366 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: You have to be aware of where you are and 367 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: where the ball is. And j R. Sweezy getting called 368 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: up for holding gives the Seahawks two points plus the 369 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: ball back they kick a field goal. There's five points 370 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: right there that you quote unquote gifted to the opposition. Yeah, 371 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: and when you get a safety, you know, normally your 372 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: putter is gonna punt the ball and they try to 373 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: kick it high and you know, and they usually they 374 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: get pretty good field position out of that, and they 375 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: were able to get that field goal. Yeah, it's just again, 376 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: I have no problem with the holding. If your quarterback's 377 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: going to get hit a you know it's going to happen. 378 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: It's just the pre and post snap penalties and to me, 379 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: those are just mental layers, lack of focus. And Kyler, 380 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's got to learn to throw that ball away. 381 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: You can't get an intentional ground and you've got to 382 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: go down in distance and you lose it down there. 383 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: So again, these are all learning things. And I know 384 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: people will think, well, it's twenty six games. I mean 385 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: they're still learning. Cliff and Kyler are still learning. And 386 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, I thought the defense held up to their 387 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: part considering him. He endly gave up twenty eight points. 388 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, Seattle's have been scoring a ton of points 389 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Number one in football. So again, I think there's things 390 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: that they need to obviously clean up. But you know, 391 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: people are like, how do you cut down on the penalties? 392 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Cliffs Gotta he has he's had 393 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: had a conversation where you know, are kind of tolerated. 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Kirkpatrick was on the sidelines, and you know, 395 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: I heard people talking today why didn't Kingsbury go over there. 396 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, a lot of times you want to 397 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: let the guy to come to the sidelines. He knows 398 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: he made a mistake, he knows he let his team 399 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: day town, but he was heated. And then Vance Joseph 400 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: went over there and had a, you know, a stern conversation, 401 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: just based on television. So each coach, you know, you 402 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: coach your positions, and he's the he's the defensive coordinator. 403 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: And I'm sure I did see either Marcus Robertson or 404 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: Greg Williams go over there and talk to him. And 405 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: then you had Buddha Baker who to comment after the game. Hey, 406 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: you know there's gonna things are gonna get a heat 407 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: in the game, but you can't put yourself in that 408 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: position to hurt your football team. So and you know, 409 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Joseph got a chance to play. I mean, let's 410 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: be honest, those are the top four corners. You know, 411 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson on the shelf. So it is what it 412 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: is from a standpoint, but you just you just you know, again, 413 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: these penalties are shooting themselves in the foot. You know, 414 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: you look at first and fifteen, you look at first 415 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and twenty on a holding penalty, and again it's going 416 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: to happen. But the fact that the offense has had 417 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: these penalties, and we talk about Bob getting behind the sticks, 418 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: and you know, there were times they were throwing a 419 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: screen pass just to get a feel position, and you know, 420 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: I always think, you know, if you're at midfield, they're 421 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: four down territories, and sometimes it looked like, you know, 422 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: they were trying to get the first down on third down, 423 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: where where there was options to go for it on 424 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: fourth down. We know Kingsbury has been pretty aggressive on that. 425 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: So a lot of things to clean up. But you know, 426 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I still believe in this team, and I think they 427 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: got enough good leadership in that locker room. And we 428 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: know that Kylo Mroe doesn't like to lose and they'll 429 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: be ready to go to New England now Cemetter matchups. 430 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: On the Kirkpatrick taunting penalty, Kingsbury had this to say 431 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: earlier today, quote that one is disappointing. We just got 432 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: to control our emotions better. End quote. And I get 433 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: it as far as controlling your emotions and being the 434 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: better man, and we discussed this on Cardinal Talk with 435 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry. And in the heat of the moments, you 436 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: know you want to be the better person and step away. 437 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: And it's always the second guy that officials catch and 438 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: throw the flag on, because I think dk Metcalf was 439 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: just as guilty as Kirkpatrick. So maybe offsetting at that point, 440 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: so you don't single out one or the other, but 441 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: you have to be better. Easy for us to say 442 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: as we sit and watch the game, or you're in 443 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: the stands watching the play, and you try to put 444 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: yourself in the player's position in that moment because things 445 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: happen and you react, and then when things settle down, 446 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: you realize it was a mistake, you shouldn't have done it, 447 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: and then you feel awful. No one feels worse than 448 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick because he feels like he costs the team and 449 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: you can make a strong argument MJ that that penalty 450 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: and the sweezy holding call made the Cardinals have to 451 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: go the length of the field on that final drive 452 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: for a touchdown as opposed to going into field goal range, 453 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: kicking a field goal, making it and tying the ball 454 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: game up at twenty four twenty four. A lot of 455 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: math involved there, but certainly you have to be smart, 456 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: and right now, I don't know if this team is 457 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: smart enough, especially to get out of its own way. Yeah, 458 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you can definitely question it. You know, sometimes 459 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: it probably feel like, hey, we're gonna put thirty thirty five. 460 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: It's not going to affect us. Put in a long run. 461 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: It affected them. So the safety? Was it five or 462 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: nine points total? After the Kirkpatrick penalty? Here's what I 463 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: kind of figured out, because it was third and seven 464 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: after the five yard completion, so it would have been 465 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: fourth and two at the Arizona thirty two yard line. 466 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: So you're looking at fourth and two at the thirty 467 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: two Did the Seahawks kick a field goal there? You're 468 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: looking at what forty nine and fifty yards and we 469 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: know Jason Myers doesn't miss, or do you go for it? 470 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's just say they kicked the field goal. 471 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: Make it. That's three points. So now you're trailing twenty 472 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: four twenty one minus the safety on that final drive 473 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: in which you take over with two fifteen to go 474 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: from your own twenty one yard line, and all you 475 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: need is a field goal, get into field goal range, 476 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: which they were. It was first and ten at the 477 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Seattle twenty seven with fifty four seconds to go. They 478 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: were well in range of Zain Gonzalez, but they needed 479 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown. They trailed twenty eight twenty one, and you 480 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: throw three straight in completions and then you get sack 481 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: by Dunlap on the final play for the Cardinals on 482 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: their offensive side of the ball, and then you're walking 483 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: off the field going, you know what, that's one we 484 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: had an opportunity as poorly as this team. That's the 485 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: other thing I can't yes, I can't wrap my hand 486 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: around because even watching that game and you're seeing how 487 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: well the Seahawks are playing at times, and the Cardinals 488 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: did have two straight scoring drives in the third quarter 489 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: in which Kyler Murray was on rhythm and the offense 490 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: looked great. You have they kept shooting themselves in the foot, 491 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: but they did have the ball with an opportunity to 492 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: tie the ball game up and go into overtime, despite 493 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: everything that we're talking about here today. And if that 494 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: goes the Cardinals way, then we're having different conversation. It's 495 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: like last Sunday against the Bills game that Hell Murray 496 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: falls incomplete. We're having a totally different conversation post game 497 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: and the three days leading into the Seahawks. That's just 498 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: how close things are in the National Football League, where 499 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: a couple of different plays separates a win and a loss. Yeah, 500 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: and if the Cardinals would have won that game based 501 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: on because they had no problem moving the ball to 502 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: the fifty or forty yard line when they had the ball, 503 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: when they got the ball back to try to score 504 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown, they could take the lead to end the game. 505 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: They had no problem moving the ball. It's just it 506 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: looked like he underthrew Isabella and you know he tried 507 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: to fit in there with fits. Again, if they would 508 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: have won that game, you know I would have said, man, 509 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: feel like you're a robber when you're leaving that stadium. 510 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm not saying they didn't deserve to win the game. 511 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean just saying in general, the way the game 512 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: was going, and obviously them shutting Murray down in the 513 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: running game, and you know, the Cardinals weren't able to 514 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: put up thirty points and they held them to twenty eight. 515 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: You just take the win and move on. But but 516 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, that's what Kyler said. We still had a 517 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: chance to win, But you don't want to put yourself 518 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: in that positions sometimes based on the penalties and the 519 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: safety and it all adds up. You're exactly right. Every 520 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: week we talked about five or six places and Cardinals 521 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: ran sixty seven offensive plays last night. But it's five 522 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: or six place, and it doesn't have to be all 523 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: on offense. It could be on defense, you know. So 524 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: again I'm not discouraged, but I'm just disappointed because I thought, 525 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: based on the matchups and the injuries, and I'm sure 526 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: they're talking about this in Seattle, why wouldn't they run 527 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: the football down our throats? Because we were basically had 528 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: some backups and Campbell didn't play a ton Asaya Simmons 529 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: played well, you know, hicksmiths and tackles, but for the 530 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: most part, in Kennard didn't get a whole lot of reps. 531 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Golden was you know, he plays with energy and reddick. 532 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, it always comes down to four or five, five, 533 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: sixth place, and it's not just on one side of 534 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: the ball. To me, that was on both sides of 535 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the ball. Cardinals not being able to get off to 536 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: a fresh start three and out, three out. Luckily they 537 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: were only down by seven points, but they only had 538 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty three yards in the first quarter. You mentioned the 539 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: miss tackles. There was a lot of yards gained after 540 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: contacts by the Seattle players, specifically the Seattle running backs. 541 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't seen a final talent. Usually 542 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: that's something that comes out and a couple of days 543 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: after the fact, but it just seemed on first contact 544 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: Seahawks running backs and even Russell Wilson, we're still moving forward, 545 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: gaining two, three, four, sometimes six yards downfield, and that's 546 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: that's discouraging defensively. Yeah, and I've always liked Carlos. You know, 547 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: he was in Cleveland, and he was in he was 548 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: in Houston, and to me, if you're looking for that 549 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: short yardage, a guy that could push the pile, he's 550 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: a perfect guy. But you know, he's been on one 551 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: year of deals and then both Scarborough it looked like 552 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: he had fresh legs. Unfortunately, you know, a grown injury 553 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: m so you could see. But you know, when when 554 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: you're top running backs out and according to Carrol so 555 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: the game they anticipated get Curse Carson back. You look 556 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: for that opportunity because you know, again he's been on 557 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: one year deals, one or two million dollars, but he 558 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: runs hard. And you know, they may not have the 559 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: best offensive line, but they were able to win in 560 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: the trenches last night. Then that's surprising to me because 561 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line has been really consistent. But again they 562 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: had a different game plan and you got to give 563 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: Ken Norton credit. Third Gang. If you enjoy Cardinals Covered two, 564 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: we invite you to subscribe to all of Arizona Cardinals 565 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Ditcher, and SoundCloud. 566 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: Listen to your favorite shows on the go like Cardinals Underground, 567 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rays, The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and 568 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: of course this show Cardinals Cover two. Go Toasy Cardinals 569 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcasts for more information. As we continue 570 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: here on this Football Friday, Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyunday, 571 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. A little odd here 572 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: to do a football Friday show with no football to 573 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: be played on Sunday. So I guess we just get 574 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: a chance to kick back and watch everyone else play 575 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday. But you pointed out the big one is 576 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: on Monday nights, the Rams go to Tampa Bay, their 577 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: second trip to Florida, I believe in the past four weeks, 578 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: and their fifth a cross country trip this season. Yeah, 579 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing a little self scouting just based 580 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: on you know, we'll we'll do a show on Monday, 581 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals get back on the practice field, we'll start looking 582 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: ahead to New England. But I'm gonna look at some 583 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: of these NFC matchups and it's you know, the Saints 584 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: look like you know, Sean Payton won't announce who they're 585 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: going to start. You know, the Falcons are playing the Falcons. 586 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: You know, Raheem Morris is trying to keep his job. 587 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what happens there. I mean, obviously 588 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: they're going to do a search, probably higher a GM. 589 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: But you know, if the Saints, I think the Saint's 590 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: got a more talented roster um, so they probably should 591 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: win that game. But I thought Jamis would start and 592 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: then use Tyson Hill because he's kind of like the 593 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: punt protector. He plays on special teams, and I don't 594 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna regulate that. And then anybody in 595 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: the NFC, you know, you know the Vikings. People aren't 596 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: talking about the Vikings, but they're back in the race. 597 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: And you know, the Packers on paper, they got a 598 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: really good record, but there's been flaws there. Jacksonville took 599 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: them to the toe. They went down to Tampa, played 600 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: well in that first possession, got exposed there, and then 601 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: you look in you know, some other divisions. You know, 602 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are trud and water the Falcons, 603 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: but are really going to come down to the Bucks 604 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: and Saints. And then you know Chicago, They're gonna make 605 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: a decision at their quarterback. But I'm gonna keep an 606 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: eye on the Vikings because I mind know Mike Zimmer 607 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: that team is going to be ready, and the way 608 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Delvin Cooks running the football, I mean, there could be 609 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: a force to be reck with and they may squeak 610 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: in as a wildcard team. So I'm maybe looking at 611 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: some of these games, and I know the Inner Conference games, 612 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: But the more losses they have in the conference, it's 613 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna be better for their Cardinals. Yeah, after Week eleven, 614 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: it might be interesting to take a look at the 615 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: playoffs standings, not the individual divisions, but just how the 616 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: conference stacks up in the NFC as far as how 617 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: much separation the maybe top five or six versus what 618 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: everyone else. Remember, seven teams make the postseason seven in 619 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: each conference could be eight, that's true. That's something that 620 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: still might need to be negotiated between the league and 621 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: the players association. But yeah, you're right, there could be 622 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: an extra playoff opponent or a playoff team I should 623 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: say here in twenty twenty because of everything that's going 624 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: on around the world. Yeah, right now, you know which 625 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: we should do is come Monday. We'll have to wait 626 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: after Monday Night football because we got two NFC teams playing. 627 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: Where were the Cardinals going into this game in week eleven? 628 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: They were three c okay, and then where are they 629 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: at come Tuesday morning? So they dropped to a six seed. 630 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: Because you know, Seattle's got stranglehold onder the division right now. 631 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Saint's got a good record, the Buck's got a good record, 632 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: so he'll be interested to see one week before you 633 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: go to a three seed, an hour you with six seed, 634 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: and who's below you? Because again the Vikings are lurking. 635 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: That's how tight everything is as far as the top 636 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: tier teams, because one loss you could tumble four or 637 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: five spots, which the Cardinals appear to have done here 638 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: in week eleven, you brought up Monday's practice. I do 639 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: want to make the bird Gang aware of all of this. 640 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: According to his agent, Demato, Pecco will be joining the 641 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals on Monday. It's a name that has been 642 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: out there MJ for a while now, but because if 643 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen protocols, he could not become official until next week. 644 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: The Cardinals haven't announced anything, but that certainly would help 645 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Pecco six three twenty five. He's got history with Vans Joseph. 646 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: The two were together in Denver twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. 647 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: And why it's important is because at the moment the 648 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals have five defensive linemen on injured reserve, Zach Allen 649 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: Lecky fote to Richard Lawrence, Corey Peters, and Jordan Phillips. 650 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: And it didn't sound very optimistic about Phillips when Kingsbury 651 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: earlier today said, quote it's kind of a weight and 652 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: sea deal. We're hoping he'll be back, but that hamstring 653 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: has to heal up end quote hamstrings, you think you're 654 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: good and then it pops. Sometimes it's all right, how 655 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: do you feel great? All right, Well, let's give you 656 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: another day, another week, And that might be worrisome not 657 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: only for Phillips but for the Cardinals overall, because right 658 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 1: now all you have is Josh Morrel, Trevon Coley, Angela Blackson, 659 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: and Michael Dogby, the ladder of which got his first 660 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: career NFL sack last night. Talking about Dogby, but that 661 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: defensive line, the plan going into this season versus what 662 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: the plan is now heading into week twelve at New England. 663 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: It's not in day. Well, Steve's always told us your 664 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: needs in you know, April and May are different than 665 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: October November. Pecco, he's the guy that's got good size, 666 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: probably more of a nose tackle defensive tackle. He'll definitely 667 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: come in and help this team. He's strong at a 668 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: point of attack. There's some familiarity. He's spent a long 669 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: time in Cincinnati and then he was in Denver, but 670 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: the Cardinals did bring in three to four different guys 671 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: somewhere for tryouts. He visited it because obviously they had 672 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: history and they can watch the film. But you know 673 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: he's going to try to replace Corey Peters. I'm not 674 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: saying it's going to happen, but he's got low gravity 675 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: and he's he's one of those guys that plays the 676 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: echo of the whistle. He's got a different mentality from 677 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: his background, so physicality wise, he's gonna he's gonna bring 678 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: something to the team. I'm not calling him the savior, 679 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: but I think he can definitely help him ntil some 680 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: of these guys come back. And the other news was 681 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson. Yeah, left that game last night with nineteen 682 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: seconds to go in the first half. Suffered a leg injury. 683 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: That was the diagnosis last night. Kingsbury though updated everyone 684 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 1: saying it's an ankle injury, the same ankle he hurts 685 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: in Week one that forced him to miss six games. 686 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals right now don't know the extent of how severe 687 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: that ankle injury is, but you lose Jalen Thompson for 688 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: any extended period of time now, all of a sudden 689 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: you're hurting your depth in the secondary, specifically at safety. Yeah, 690 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: and then we don't know the situation with Dante Thompson, 691 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: and then you got Chris Banjo, so once again your 692 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: depth's going to be tested. I like Banjo more of 693 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: a special teams player, but I think he's when he's 694 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: filled in now again, not an everyday, every day starter, 695 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: but when he's filled in last year week fourteen and fifteen, 696 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job earlier in the season. 697 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: So you know, we could see more sub packages where 698 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: you want to get your defensive backs on the field, 699 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: and I think Isaiah Simmons would be a great candidate 700 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: for that. But he's got experience, he knows the defense, 701 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: he's been in the defense, he's played for different defenses, 702 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: so I don't think there's I mean, Jalen Thompson definitely 703 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: has made major strides. His ceiling is a lot higher 704 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: than Banjo, but sometimes it's good to have some experience 705 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: back there. Banjo twenty nine snaps last night. Deante Thompson 706 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: didn't play any defensive snaps. He was strictly on special 707 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: teams for thirteen snaps, so we'll see he might have 708 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: to play some safety next week at New England. So 709 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: we're fingers are crossed here as we kind of hope 710 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: that this team uses this mini bye week, if you will, 711 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: to get healthy, specifically one Kyle Murray, as we touched 712 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: on at the start of the show, and then of 713 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: course Jalen Thompson, because you can't can't afford to be 714 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: losing any more of your starters on either side of 715 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: the ball, but especially on the defensive side right now. Well, 716 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: and there's no the Cardinals head there by a week 717 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: they've played on Thursday Night football. You know, they've played 718 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday and Monday night football. After this, it's full go. 719 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: There's no more time off and they you know, we'll 720 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: see if they get flex that are the only way. 721 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: Otherwise they're playing in Sunday afternoon, Sunday morning and some 722 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: of these East Coast games. So at this point, there's 723 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: no other options to where they're going to get a break. 724 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 1: So I hope the players do the right thing, take 725 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: the three days off and come back, motivate it and 726 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: know what's at stake. I believe they know what's at stake. 727 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna win all six games, but 728 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: you set yourself up with six and three, six and four, 729 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: now ten games, and if you can win the majority 730 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: of five or six, I like where they're going to 731 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: be when the season ends. I'm ready for the weekend. 732 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 1: What about you, MJ. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the weekend. 733 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was so exciting us. I went on, 734 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: got a fresh hair, got to the stadium early, yes, 735 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: and then I am looking forward to Thanksgiving next week, 736 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, triple header on football. But it's that time 737 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: of the year, you know, the weather is not much 738 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: better and get out of the house a little bit. 739 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm looking forward to weekend. You know, I'll 740 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: watch from college football, definitely. We're gonna watch the NFL. 741 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: Just like I said, I'm gonna keep an eye on 742 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: the NFC teams and the interconference teams to see if 743 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: it Cardinals can get any help. But I'm really curious, 744 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to figure it out now because 745 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's no need to. I just want to 746 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: know where they were going into that game and what 747 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: their seating is because clearly if other teams win, they're 748 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: gonna drop a little bit. Well, we'll touch on that 749 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: next week. Bird Gang enjoy the weekend, and with that 750 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on this Football Friday edition. 751 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday, probably partner of the 752 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive producer 753 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Jim I'm a Hundre or Mike Jarecki. I'm Greg Rayel Loup. 754 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 1: We'll dot you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.