1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: All the media. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and welcome to it could happen here. It's 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: me James today and I'm joined by Sharene and also Almado, 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: who was a volunteer, was father a non violent Protector's 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 2: Presence volunteer in Palestine. How are you doing today? 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm good. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 4: Thank you, Yeah, thanks so much for being here. 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we appreciate it. So we met through a 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: mutual friend who is also a volunteer with you. And 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: the reason that that Frank contacted me was that unfortunately 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: the IDF shot you. And that's obviously a pretty shitty situation. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: And would you be okay with just beginning by recounting 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: the incident. I don't know if that's something you're okay 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: going back to, just because I think the fucking wantonness 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: of the violence, it is so stark that I think 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: it might help people to hear it. 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 5: So I volunteered with FAZA and we go to a 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 5: demonstration in Beta every Friday. The aim is to go 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 5: back to their land that was stolen from them. I 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 5: think there's a settlement called Avatar Avtar on the Palestinian land, 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: and their aim is just to go back to it 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: and plant the Palasini your flag. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: So we get there and they're. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: Doing Juma prayer and then after Juama prayer is when 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: they start chanting, so like not even it was like 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: between five to ten minutes when they started shooting tear 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 5: gas at us. You're in the prey after the prayer, 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: after the prayer, yeah, So the prayer went without an incident, 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 5: and then afterwards was when they shot tear gas at us, 31 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 5: multiple tear gas canisters, and then once they started firing 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: live rounds. We hid behind a concrete wall. Tear gas 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 5: still being shot at us, and then live rounds as well. 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: You could see the dust coming off of the concrete 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: walls as they shot. And then once it seemed like 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: they were coming down from the tower, I think Palestines 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: were running because they thought they were coming. So we 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 5: ran and we went over a concrete wall. We ran 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 5: for I don't even know how long, but once we 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: got to a clearing and they thought it was safe, 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: we regrouped with everyone. So the road going up to 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 5: where we were, there were Palestinians still running down. There's 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 5: Palestinie is running to the right, and we just waited 44 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 5: maybe thirty seconds, and then someone told us to go, 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: so we ran with them and then we got to 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 5: rest for like five minutes at a quick smoke coffee. 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: Some people had teeth. But then some palestines were moving 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: towards the street to our right, so we followed them 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 5: a couple of us and some of them stayed. And 50 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: as we were approaching there, this was the road that 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: went straight up to the watchtower we saw them on before, 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: so there was still some tear guys shot at us 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 5: and some live rounds as well, but we saw them 54 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: actually coming down from the tower this time, and before 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: you know they even drove down, there was palestines to 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: our left that were running. So whenever we see them running, 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: we know that it's a threat they think may be fatal, 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 5: so we're running. We actually could run to the Ali 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: grows behind us. And as we were running, just making 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 5: sure all my comrades were good, I hear a loud 61 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: bang and then I feel a pain in my leg. 62 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: I thought it was like a tear gas canister that 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: hit my leg because it just felt like a blunt force. 64 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: But I've never felt that pain before. And one of 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: my comrades were helping me up while I was still 66 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: running and limping, and then finally once we got to 67 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: a clearing, that's when all the Palestins ran to me 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: and carried me away to the pickup truck, which then 69 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: went to the health clinic or the emergency clinic in Beta. 70 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: And then after that the army trucks blocked our way 71 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 5: while I was in the ambulance when I was transferred, 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 5: and then there was two checkpoints afterwards, and the two 73 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: checkpoints they demanded to see who was inside, which delayed 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: my care further, and then finally getting to Rafidia Hospital, 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 5: Jesus swept fucking hell. 76 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: Classic of them to block the ambulance so many times. 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: It's yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm rerealty glad that it 78 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like an archeriobled or something when that time would 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: have been a life and death. Yeah, in those minutes, right. 80 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: It's a really good point. 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 5: I was smiling because I was like, I don't know 83 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 5: what just happened to me, but I'm hope, I hope, 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 5: I'm okay, and also I know I'm here for Palestine, 85 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: so you know, yeah, I kept smiling, but I didn't 86 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 5: know what was happening. And thankfully it was no artery 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: or bone, so I was very late. 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you know what right for you shows 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: clinic they sometimes use like smaller calibers for crowd control. 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. From what I heard was I'm sixteen American nail. 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, they're just really game for it. Un believable. 92 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're okay. I like, just we spoke about 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: this before, but just so listeners, like, you're healing up, 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: you feel like you're on the path to at least 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: physical recovery. 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Like, uh, So, I got shot and one 97 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 5: week later I went from wheelchair, the crutches, the cane. 98 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: I'm still on the cane, but I can move around 99 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: pretty well like indoors. Like when I'm outside, I have 100 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: to use the cane because of my leg buckles and 101 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: the hole in the front baxit wound is still healing. 102 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 5: It's not fully closed yet, but a lot better. 103 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: Did the bullet go straight through? 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I went straight through, no fragments. I believe they 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 5: had to do surgery to stitch me up, but also 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: to take the dead tissue out. And I think they 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: had to put together some muscles as well. 108 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus, Like, I want to talk about a couple 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: of things regarding this. First of all, I think, like, 110 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: are you a US citizen? Yeah, yeah, so like a 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: foreign military shot a US citizen right as you're a 112 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: no senator, representative, any of these people who are supposed 113 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: to give a single fuck about this like reached out 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: to you. 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: New so it was just the embassy. 116 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 5: The embassy didn't contact us, maybe the same day I 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 5: was shot just a little bit later, but no representatives 118 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: here in the United States have reached out to me. 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty reprehensible. Yeah, do you want to give 120 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: people a representive? Who those might be is I don't 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: want to like dox you and where you live, but. 122 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: I'm in Jersey City. 123 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 5: There is a vacancy actually for one of the representatives, 124 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: so that is one reason why. But the other ones, yeah, 125 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 5: Jersey senators, local politicians, nobody has reached out. 126 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's reached out. Yeah, And I think, like we 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: said this again before, but it's not that your leg 128 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: is more important than someone's child's life in Gaza, right, 129 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Like that's I don't want to imply that for a second, 130 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: but like you know, the system of states as it 131 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: is today works in a certain way, and in theory, 132 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: those people should care about you, and like, I think 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: it really gets us to something else I wanted to 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: talk about, which is that like the existence of Palestine, 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: like as as it is today and as it wishes 136 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: to be in the future, much like you know other 137 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: places I've worked in Kurdistan, in the liberated parts of Myanmar, 138 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 2: is a threat to the system of states and governments 139 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: as it exists today. And like at some point you 140 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: decided that the government and right into your senator or 141 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: whatever tweeting people do wasn't enough or wasn't going to work, 142 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: and you decided that, like you wanted to put your 143 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: body in between the people trying to kill the people 144 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: and the people trying to survive. So can you talk 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: us through that journey? Like have you always been invested 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: in the Palacean Coles? Is it something that you became 147 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: aware of at some point. 148 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 149 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: So I'm part of the Philippine Movement on a Baion, 150 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: part of Bayon and the National Democratic Movement in the Philippines. 151 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 5: So through them I was in contact and collaboration with 152 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 5: Palestinians and that's when I started to understand Palestinian struggle. 153 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: And actually I was at the protest. 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 5: In New York recently, and it came full circle because 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 5: Nerdane within our lifetime stated that she actually started it 156 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 5: because of the National Democratic Movement and our work together 157 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 5: and our studies. So because I also saw Palestinian standing 158 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 5: for the liberation of the Philippines, we always had that 159 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: connection or I had that connection with Palestinians, and it 160 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: grew over time, and the escalation of October seventh really 161 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: had me just disregulated because I'm a teacher in Jersey 162 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 5: and for the first few months it was so hard 163 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: for me to teach. It was like I was just 164 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 5: going on autopilot because how could we, you know, just 165 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: go on with our daily lives seeing this these atrocities 166 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 5: happening every day. And once it was the end of 167 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: the year, it was hot smoking cigarette, I put my 168 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 5: CAFA on the gate outside of our school and then 169 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: I came out because I had to bring the snacks 170 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: in for my students for the last week of school 171 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: and it was gone, so I had to buy another one. 172 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: And when I did, it came with a really beautiful 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 5: handwritten postcard from Palestine and it was just talking about 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: thank you for supporting us through these difficult times. And 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 5: then it's had invitation to visit, So that was what 176 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 5: prompted me to like research and ask other friends in 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 5: the movement, and then they told me about FASA, and 178 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 5: then I took the orientation and training and I went 179 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 5: over during my summer break. 180 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real. To ease your summer, we'll just stop 181 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 2: for some advertisements here and then come back. We are back. Unfortunately, 182 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: you've had toism some advert so hopefully you've skipped them. 183 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: So I wanted to ask about like that journey, the 184 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: journey to Palestine. Now, I imagine it's very difficult, and like, 185 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: how did it feel. I guess like this is a 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: cause you've been invested in for some time, right, and 187 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: then you've seen these horrific things, and then suddenly you're 188 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: on the ground, like was to be in solidarity with people, 189 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: like I know my experience at the border has been that, Like, 190 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: I would much rather be like in it, even if 191 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: it's terrible, than at home seeing pictures of it. I 192 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: wonder how it was for you. 193 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, I've always just wanted to visit Palestine 194 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 5: and I want to be insolidated with the Palestinean people 195 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 5: as a Filipino American I've seen Palestine. Is there the 196 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 5: support of Filipinos. I've been there in the streets with them, 197 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 5: you know, when they supported Americans, the black Americans, you know, 198 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 5: against police brutality. So it just felt like a duty 199 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 5: as an organizer, as a revolutionary to you know, show 200 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 5: the same solidarity back as well as knowing that I'll 201 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 5: be in a beautiful place with beautiful people under horrible circumstances. 202 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish more people. And it's not just Palestine, right, 203 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: we have these revolutions that we talk about in these 204 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: causes that we talk about, like, and I understand it's 205 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: not always easy. People have commitments financial and interpersonal, and 206 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: but like, if you can go, you should go. Do 207 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: you feel like your solidarity grew because you experienced solidarity 208 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: in return? Right, like somebody ran towards gunfire to pick 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: you up at some point? Do you feel like a 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: more profound sense of solidarity after that experience, having also 211 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: experienced like setle colonial violence. 212 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: I guess absolutely. 213 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 5: It's like you know, before I'm talking about it, we 214 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: talk about in circles, and I did have the privilege 215 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: to be able to go, you know, not a lot 216 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 5: of people have the financial ability mental ability, physical capabilities. 217 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 5: So I'm looking on that end as well. But if 218 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 5: one is willing and able in all those different aspects, 219 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 5: they should go if they can, especially during all of 220 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 5: the harvest right now, which is an escalation of settler 221 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 5: violence that we've seen recently and even the Israeli army. 222 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: So I get updates. 223 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 5: From Kuspa right now and I just see everything that's 224 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: happening still, and I know all of harvest is a 225 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 5: huge economic thing for the Palestinians. So yeah, it would 226 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 5: be great for anyone that's able to go. 227 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, leading up to you getting shot and maybe after, 228 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 6: can you describe maybe what the environment was like like 229 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 6: on the ground, how people were living your experiences with 230 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 6: the idea of me before that, Like, can you just 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 6: walk through what that was like on the ground. 232 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 233 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 5: So my first day there, I was in Kustra and 234 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: we were just getting the money that we need. We 235 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: got some groceries I believe I had. I only had 236 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 5: like two pairs of clothes I packed leg and then 237 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 5: we had dinner with the Palestinia family, very beautiful collective dinner. 238 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: And when you have lunch or dinner there, you know, 239 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: it's not like a quick thirty minutes and you're gone. 240 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: You're there for like three hours. 241 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: Even if we have different language barriers, it's just very 242 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: beautiful culture and people. 243 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: And then I get shot the second day. 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 7: The second day, god, I know, yeah, yeah, so, uh 245 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 7: second full day, and so I think I was the 246 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 7: first person shot at a demonstration there. 247 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 5: So people were ready for I guess the usual tear 248 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 5: gas and live rounds, but I don't think anyone is 249 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 5: expecting anyone to get shot there, including me. But yeah, 250 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 5: so I was healing in the hospital, I heard the 251 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 5: Israeli army came into Kusra, and you know, we had 252 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: the amount of people we had on the ground, and 253 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: one person had to kind of stay around me. So 254 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: I was scared and feared for my people over there. 255 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 5: And then another day goes by, the next day after that, 256 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: I'm back in town, and then there was reports of 257 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 5: a settler that was killed. And then we heard that 258 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: all the settlements there was a call to attack Cusra. 259 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 5: So right when I get back, we're already on Hylert. 260 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 5: We're watching making sure nothing was happening. Thankfully, nothing did 261 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 5: happen that day. But then, yeah, it happens like every 262 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 5: other day where either the Israeli army comes in or 263 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: settler's attack. In Kusra, we also tried to open the 264 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: gate between the town because the Israeli Army put a 265 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 5: gate between the tw so people can't travel with you know, 266 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: within the town, and we tried opening it, but they 267 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 5: have the key, and a peaceful demonstration turned into the 268 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: IDF or the IOF coming with like twelve soldiers intimidating folks, 269 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: loading up some kind of automatic weapon, pointing tear gas 270 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: at us. A few days after that, they came into 271 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: town at night shot up the town. A few days 272 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: after that, Israeli army was guarding settlers really close to town, 273 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 5: were actually in town. 274 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: And then a. 275 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: Couple of days after that too, I think one of 276 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: the last days I was there, they raided the town. 277 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 5: They shot like twelve tear gas canisters like two to 278 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 5: three like flash bangs, and then like three live rounds, 279 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 5: and they shot a boy in the back. Thankfully he's 280 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 5: also okay. And then after I left, sellers attacked international 281 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 5: volunteers US citizens as well with rocks, and DIOEFT shot 282 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: like five other Palestinians as well. So it's just continual violence, 283 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 5: you know what. I faced that one day is what 284 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: they face every day? 285 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and like they go and get to 286 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,239 Speaker 2: go home like it it's at home. Can you explain 287 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: for people who aren't familiar, right, I think a lot 288 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: of people have come into solidarity with Palestine in the 289 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: last eleven months, which is fine. You don't have to 290 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: know like textbooks of history to be like genocide is bad. 291 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 292 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: So, like you're in the West Bank, right, can you 293 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: explain where that lies in relation to Gaza and what 294 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: is happening in the West Bank, especially right now in 295 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: the last few days and weeks. That is extremely concerning 296 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: and I don't know how to fred it, like terrible. 297 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 298 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 5: So the decimation of Gaza on Israel's end is a 299 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 5: response to October seventh escalation, even though October seventh was 300 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: a response to, however, many decades of oppression that they've faced. 301 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: So Gaza is being decimated. 302 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: But Israel wants more land, the greater Israel that they've 303 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: been advertising. Settlers want to move into Gaza. Settlers want 304 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 5: to continue to move into West Bank, the West Bank. 305 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 5: Also from reports, Israel gave authority or something of being 306 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 5: able to get more land, which is Palestinian land, So 307 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 5: what kind of authority do they have over that all 308 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 5: the legal settlements, But they're trying to just take all 309 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 5: the land that they can get, whether it's in Gaza, 310 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 5: whether it's in West Bank. So they're obviously connected because 311 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 5: it is Palestine. But now they're just going into the 312 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 5: West Bank because there's further resistance now as well. And 313 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 5: there has always been just a lot more quiet than 314 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 5: a Gaza at the moment because I guess of the 315 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 5: government that's over them, Palestinian authority. But yeah, it's all 316 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 5: connected and they want to just squash any kind of 317 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 5: resistance there is, whether it's in the West Bank and Gaza, 318 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: as well as just trying to take as much land 319 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: as possible before international intervention happens, which we haven't seen 320 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: because the US continues to supply weapons and arms to Israel. 321 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently what happened to you even going to stop that? 322 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Like nothing else is i'd know what is just for 323 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: people who aren't familiar the West Banks so much larger 324 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: geographical area. Bank refers to the Jordan River, right set. 325 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: Colonialism is a term that people are familiar with, right like, 326 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: and it happens, it's not I'm not saying it doesn't 327 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: happen in America because it still happens every day. Like there, 328 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: It's a process that we continue to create. It's not 329 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: one that stops in nineteenth century, right, and by that, 330 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: but like where you were is the bleeding age of 331 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: settle colonialism. Right. It's a family being kicked out of 332 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: their house, it's people not being allowed to go back 333 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: to their homes. Do you have a sense of like 334 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: what does that look like? Because it's incredibly violent, right, 335 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: and incredibly inhumane. No reasonable person would think that like, oh, yeah, 336 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: this seems normal and cool. Can you explain, like perhaps 337 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: how that would appear for one family or for the 338 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: farm or the village. 339 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 5: So in Kusra, there has been a good amount of 340 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: resistance even before October seventh, from the leaders there and 341 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: the community. But even with that, three months before it 342 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 5: looked like settlers coming into town, a whole wave of 343 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: them burning eleven houses. 344 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: I believe it was cars. 345 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 5: Attacking people, with Israeli army there not stopping anything. I 346 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: believe it was Msvaryata where other activists are, where they 347 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: literally come to the land say this is ours, try 348 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: to destroy infrastructure like water wells. They come in and 349 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 5: literally say God told me this is my land, and 350 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 5: I'm here, and try to settle there. There's I guess 351 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 5: I saw a place where the Israeli occupation forces would 352 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 5: guard around a mosque, not for the Muslims there, but 353 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 5: for settlers to come in and pretty much making a 354 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: synagogue for however long. It looks like someone coming in 355 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 5: and claiming that your home is theirs and destroying any 356 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 5: infrastructure so you don't come back, whether it's the home, 357 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: the streets, water, whatever it is. 358 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 359 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 6: I keep thinking about, like one, how much it didn't 360 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 6: matter that you were American. But I keep thinking about 361 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: Rachel Corey and how maybe that was the most like 362 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 6: egregious recent example I can think of of an American citizen. 363 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: I think she was twenty three when she died, got 364 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 6: run over by a fucking bulldozer from the iof nothing happened. 365 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: Her parents are still trying to remind the world what happened, 366 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: like year after year. Yeah, and so it's not surprising 367 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 6: to me that no one reached out to you and 368 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 6: that there is no outrage. But it's just really frustrating 369 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 6: that it really doesn't matter, like it you could have 370 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: like you could have lost your life and no one 371 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 6: would have bad an eye in the government. Like it 372 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 6: really really just makes my blood boil because it's I 373 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: don't know, that's what I've been thinking about for a 374 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 6: tiny bit. It just reminded me of that and how 375 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: there's no protection being American when you're on the ground 376 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 6: in Palestine at all. 377 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, when we're there, our power comes from having a 378 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 5: passport somewhere else and our phone. Right, that's why we 379 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: go there to volunteer to create a buffer between the 380 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: Israeli Army, settlers and the Palestinians. And it shows their 381 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 5: complete disregard the caveat there is that they said it 382 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 5: was a mistake, which they went straight through my leg, 383 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 5: So I don't know what kind of mistake goes straight 384 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: through my leg. But also someone was arrested and heard 385 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: that they thought I was Palestinian, So it just shows 386 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: even more so the complete disregard for Palestinian life, whether 387 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 5: they thought I was or not, that they would just 388 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 5: shoot me. And yes, there was two US citizens that 389 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 5: were recently attacked by settlers and the IOF did not 390 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 5: do anything, you know, only a little bit after they said, 391 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: you know, stop throwing rocks, but the damage is done. Yeah, 392 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 5: our government has complete disregard for Palestinian lives because there 393 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: was also a lot of Palestinian Americans that have been 394 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 5: bad and our lives are my life or others that 395 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: are just American with another nationality have you know, I 396 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 5: guess a little bit more value in their eyes. But 397 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 5: because they don't want outrage, international outrage. But yeah, our 398 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: government haven't reached out to me, which showcases that they 399 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: don't care about US citizens that support Palestine. Even Biden 400 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: said that, you know, if a US citizen got hurt, 401 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 5: he would do something, and nothing has happened. 402 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's kind of illustrative, right, Like 403 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: we're supposed to live in a democracy, and like here 404 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: they are like choosing the interests of a state to 405 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: do what is extremely clearly and like it's very widely 406 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: agreed upon illegal, and to do so in a genocidal manner, 407 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: and they're going to back that over your right to 408 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,959 Speaker 2: not be shot in the leg. Yeah. 409 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 6: I do think it's it's funny, maybe that's not the 410 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 6: right word, but the fact that they thought you were 411 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 6: a Palestinian, as if that was a good enough excuse 412 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 6: to shoot. 413 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh oh oh. 414 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 6: That explains it of course, Like okay, sure that makes 415 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 6: me so so mad? 416 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, God we mistook that person for a 417 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: person whose life doesn't matter. 418 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: Like yeah, it's shameful. 419 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: You know what, you're really giving it away? Yeah, And 420 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: I think, like, I know, it seemed to me that 421 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: our government is not going to solve this right, like 422 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: it realistically in the election, you know, there are third 423 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: parties and stuff. I'm going to vote for someone who 424 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: said nice things about a sad but like, you don't 425 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: have a box you can take that will make this 426 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: stop in November? Right, And the only way we can 427 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: do anything is with solidarity. So like what do people do? 428 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: Like how you've been there, you've seen it, Like, how 429 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 2: do people most effectively being solularity? 430 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 431 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is international pressure that we've 432 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: seen all across the globe, which has showcased some results 433 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 5: in other countries, not here, where arms exports are actually 434 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 5: at least some are being banned or restricted altogether. But here, 435 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: I think it's continuing to build up anti imperless organizations 436 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 5: like ony and like many pro Palestinian organizations, like many 437 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 5: revolutionary Black organizations and then uniting and come in together 438 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 5: to create a power that is beyond the two party 439 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 5: system and uniting with everyone that is pro Palestinian that 440 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 5: does want to see true democracy in the United States 441 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 5: and all across the globe. Because I was one person 442 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 5: and people call me a hero, but for me, the 443 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 5: Palestines face this every day, the hero and we should 444 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: be uniting to support them in their liberation. And sometimes 445 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 5: it looks like building those organizations. Sometimes it also looks 446 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 5: like going to Palestine and joining things like FAZA, like 447 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: International Solidarity Mission to you know, be a buffer as 448 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 5: much as we can, even though it's showcased that they 449 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 5: don't care. And I think when we unify, we would 450 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 5: be able to pressure, especially when we have good organizations, 451 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 5: to pressure elected officials to really divest from the two 452 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: party system and people that support genocide and have that 453 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 5: pressure amount to more than the lobby for Israel or 454 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 5: you know, people lobbying for arms for Israel to have 455 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: that outweigh the pressure financially that they have politicians. 456 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very informative and I really appreciate sharing your experience. 457 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for all the work you do. 458 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: People might want to support your healing. They might want 459 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: to support father, they might want to support International Sudary 460 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: To mission. They might want to find out more about 461 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: how they can be that buffer. Do you have any 462 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: suggestions on where people could do any of those or 463 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: all of those things. 464 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't have a personal fund right now, which 465 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: is fine going back to work teaching, but there are 466 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 5: people that need funds to be able to participate, especially 467 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: during the all of the harvest. So following a Faza 468 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: faz three A underscore pa L is somewhere to follow, 469 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 5: as well as Defend Palestine dot org. They're both connected, 470 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 5: so you can follow the news on what's happening on 471 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: the ground as well as I believe contact them. There's 472 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 5: a general fund for folks that want to travel to 473 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: Palestine but are not able to, so there's a general 474 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 5: fund for that in the future. My friend was going 475 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: to make a T shirt to help fund the Palestinian 476 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 5: Ambulance Center over there that I got a first aid 477 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 5: training with Amado Sison on there. So I don't know 478 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 5: if it'll work here, but over there definitely. So there's 479 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 5: a lot of different things. I know, there's the different 480 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 5: camps that are being raided right now. I think there's 481 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: some fundraisers for them as well. In Gaza there's plenty too. 482 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: But in any way that people can contribute to any 483 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: of those things, you know, it always goes a long 484 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 5: way for them. 485 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty great. Thank you, Tarantia. You wanted to 486 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: say to people a mother before we finish up. 487 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope that one day, folks persons listening right now, 488 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 5: if you're capable and able to join up to see 489 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: the beauty of Palestine landscape. It's gourgeous outside of the settlement. 490 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 5: The people are so loving and caring and the culture 491 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: is just amazing, and I just hope that you will 492 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: be able to see Palestine one day, whether it is 493 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 5: to be in solidarity with them as a protective presence 494 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: or just to see it. 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